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They are not friends to us, not partners

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Some Russian military experts believe that due to the increased activity of NATO in Eastern Europe, an adequate response from Russia is to strengthen the group of troops in the western direction. There is also an opinion that NATO is preparing a springboard for a global strike against Russia. Finally, the sea phase of the exercises of the North Atlantic Alliance “Baltops 2016” has recently begun. In Moscow, these exercises were considered provocative.




Russia's strengthening of the grouping of troops in the western direction due to the increased NATO activity in Eastern Europe is an adequate response from Moscow, said Interfax-AVN Army General Mikhail Moiseyev, former chief of the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces.

“In the western direction, a group is needed - one that can adequately respond to all the challenges and threats to Russia,” said Moses.

The expert believes that the actions of the North Atlantic Alliance near the borders of the Russian Federation, including in the Baltic States, and the deployment of a missile defense system in Eastern Europe threaten Russia's national security. “The Russian Armed Forces conduct scheduled exercises and exercises. We will look at the actions of NATO and stick to our national course. If there is a threat, we will respond to it adequately - we have everything for this, ”M. Moiseyev added.

He also emphasized that “today there are one and a half thousand American bases around Russia,” and Russia itself “does not threaten anyone: neither the Baltic countries, nor Poland, nor other states”.

Another statement about NATO came from Senator Franz Klintsevich, the first deputy head of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security. This man reported on the preparation by the alliance of a "global strike" in Russia, reports "RT".

Mr. Klintsevich commented on the deployment of NATO troops on former Soviet military bases in Europe. “They have many serious plans within the framework of the concept of the so-called global strike. NATO raises our old Soviet bases in the Baltic States, Romania, Poland, places people there, ”said Klintsevich.

According to him, the number of NATO troops in these countries has increased nineteen times. However, Klintsevich is confident that the danger posed by these troops is small. Russia has no cause for concern. “Yes, they became more active, and they more aggravating the situation, trying to show that there are some aggressive intentions in Russia,” the expert noted.

6 June, the maritime phase of the NATO exercises Baltops 2016 began in the Baltic Sea. In Moscow, the exercise was considered provocative.

The Baltops 2016 exercises take place from 3 to 19 June in several countries: Estonia, Poland, Germany, Sweden and Finland (the latter two countries, as is known, are not included in the alliance).

In the teachings, recalls Utro.ru, involved 49 warships, 60 aircraft and helicopters, three submarines, 6,5 thousand soldiers from 18 NATO states and their allies. Such large maneuvers in this area have not been conducted since the days of the Cold War.

Representatives of the alliance indicated that the maneuvers are aimed at improving mutual understanding, trust and ability to cooperate between countries and include actions at sea, in the air and on land.

"Against whom" are NATO and "sympathetic" warriors training for them? Probably against the Russian “aggressors”, since the commander of the exercises, Vice-Admiral James Foggo, without much ado, called the maneuvers a message to an unnamed recipient. Not Iran and not North Korea, I suppose.

"Conducting exercises with real fighters real weaponsTesting real systems, we want to be sure that we can respond to any crisis if it occurs. The demonstration of our interaction possibilities is such a sign: we are here and we are one, ”quotes the publication of Mr. Foggo.

NATO members are learning not only at Baltops.

The leadership of the alliance has arranged several other large-scale training.

In Latvia, the three-day exercise ends (June 6-8) of the NATO member countries and partners Ramstein Alloy 2. The main task is to test the actions of the Air Force

In Lithuania, there are ten-day maneuvers "Iron Wolf 2016".

Finally, June 7 in Poland began the practical part of the most ambitious in stories countries of NATO exercises. The Anakonda maneuvers will involve 31 thousand troops from 24 countries, including 12 thousands from Poland, 10 thousands from the USA, around 1000 from the UK, notes BFM.ru. To participate in the exercises involved three thousand units of military equipment, including Tanks, Armored personnel carrier. They involved more than a hundred aircraft, helicopters and twelve ships.

“In the difficult conditions in which we found ourselves on the eastern flank, it should be noted that these exercises are primarily defensive in nature,” said Polish Defense Minister Antony Matserevich. “Their goal is to test the ability of the countries of the alliance to protect their eastern frontiers.”

In Moscow, all these major maneuvers are considered a provocative step requiring an answer.

As the head of the International Affairs Committee of the Federation Council, Konstantin Kosachev, stated, the deployment of the forces of the alliance in the Baltic is associated with an imaginary Russian threat, which is alarming.

“The transfer and deployment of NATO forces in the Baltic is clearly not aimed against any Iranian or North Korean threat. And not against an abstract opponent. Paranoid fears about a certain desire of Russia to attack the Baltic countries have already moved from the sphere of media propaganda myths to the field of practical military planning, "said Kosachev Interfax.

“We need to reduce the momentum, but not to increase the grouping. For Russia, naturally, will be forced to take retaliatory actions, which, accordingly, will bring the situation to a new level of potential risks, ”he added.

“Baltops 2016” off the coast of Sweden, Denmark and Poland are alarming by several criteria, I am sure Kosachev. Firstly, now is an inconvenient time for such actions, since they “themselves turn into provocation and a huge risk factor”. Secondly, the Baltic Sea has already become the scene of the most heated debates on the topic of a possible confrontation between Russia and NATO. The expert believes that now it is necessary to “deactivate potential hotbeds of power confrontation”, and at all “not to increase military activity”.

On the subject of the exercises and the so-called Russian threat, spoke on the TV channel "Russia 24" Russia's permanent representative to NATO Alexander Grushko.

“Recently [NATO] Secretary General visited Poland, and during these visits from the Polish side, statements were made that now Russia knows that the attack on Poland is an attack on NATO, which is absurd because they are discussing a non-existent problem. There are no plans for an attack on Poland, ”Grushko quotes. TASS. He added that other statements about the NATO exercises "are simply shocking at their frankness."

He then emphasized the danger of the alliance’s intentions: “[NATO ]’s policy lives in a surrealistic reality, and the most dangerous thing is that it now begins to be embodied just in the form of military planning and military preparations that are carried out in the territories along our borders.”

So, let us add, the bosses of NATO, and along with them, local bosses like the main Polish warrior, and do not hide the fact that the exercises are working out the scenario of protecting the eastern borders from the Russian threat.

The teachings are remarkable also by the fact that they are held on the eve of the NATO summit. By the way, it will take place not just anywhere, but in Warsaw. Of course, the Polish side will once again be able to express there its fears about the coming Putin invasion of peaceful pans, who collect apples, and their hardworking Baltic brothers, putting sprats in cans.

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  1. andr327
    andr327 8 June 2016 05: 43
    +10
    The world went crazy, it was infected with a virus of fear and well-known doctors for a rather big price depict treatment increasing the cost of treatment more and more!
    1. Karasik
      Karasik 8 June 2016 07: 10
      +6
      Quote: andr327
      World has gone mad...

      Really do not understand the NATO strategists that lead our civilization to disaster? What 4 World War I will be waged with stone axes?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 June 2016 09: 46
        +5
        The fourth world will be waged with the same weapons as now - only manufacturers will be different.
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 8 June 2016 10: 18
      +15
      The world continues the eternal policy of robbery and wars of what lies badly, poorly protected.
      Compare the geopolitical position of the USSR of the 70s and today's Russia. Lost strategically important areas of Central Europe, the entire western part of the USSR in the Baltic states, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan.
      Almost everywhere, they were occupied by US and NATO forces, thanks to the treacherous, in no other way, policies of the leaders of the USSR and Russia.

      What about our troops? Also treacherously, reduced, destroyed, disbanded. Military schools are closed, only a few remain. For three years, military schools did not accept cadets, most of the military departments of civilian universities were closed.
      The distance of an artillery shot to the "second capital" of Leningrad-Petersburg, and a few minutes of cruise missiles and combat aircraft flight to Moscow. Ours will not even have time to announce the alarm. It is a temptation to be the first to launch a global disarming strike, and then to clear the territory with a small contingent of troops and the comprador power of the fifth column.
      We do not even have the required number of troops to deter aggression. Everything was cleared up by Serdyukovism in the person of the highest authority. Recently announced the formation of 3 divisions and a tank army in the West. What are 3 divisions on our vast territory when the enemy set his sights on all sides, again starting from Finland and to the southernmost borders of Turkey and Georgia hostile to us?

      The measures taken by the Russian leadership are clearly insufficient to prepare the country for defense, both in relation to the Army and the economy, in which utter ruin and collapse are not even conducive to the formation of the necessary state budget. The country's financial reserves are not sent to strengthen the state, but are sent to foreign banks and securities of a potential US adversary.
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 8 June 2016 10: 51
      +10
      Quote: andr327
      The world went crazy, it was infected with a virus of fear and well-known doctors for a rather big price depict treatment increasing the cost of treatment more and more!
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 8 June 2016 17: 02
        +1
        "who will not go to this war" Orwell.
        I would add: But who will die in this war.
    4. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 8 June 2016 17: 57
      0
      I wonder when the red line will be crossed?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 June 2016 23: 38
        0
        No one knows this.
  2. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 8 June 2016 05: 50
    +5
    The fact that they are not our friends has been clear for a long time. "Possible opponents" will be more accurate.
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 8 June 2016 08: 13
      +2
      All their lives in the Moscow Region they have been featured as potential opponents, not a single document has a designation of partners, let alone friends!
  3. shcishcok
    shcishcok 8 June 2016 06: 00
    +4
    Yes, let’s agree with Cuba again and return to our base! and to us - it’s good and they’re calm! and let the enemies suffer! and in Vietnam you also have to enter the base completely, in vain do they keep it and wait for it for us?
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 8 June 2016 08: 14
      +5
      I’m afraid we’ve lost a friend to Cuba, and the Amer embassy has already been opened there, and very actively they’re licking Cubans right now!
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 8 June 2016 08: 59
      +4
      Does Cuba need this? Nobody is threatening her now, and the blockade has been lifted.
      1. castle
        castle 8 June 2016 09: 57
        -2
        Cuba! Everyone there wants to live like in Miami, Florida, but because of fear, everyone there lives like someone, sometime, somewhere. On the streets "Hurray!" With flags and slogans, and at home "Yes, they perish with their communism!" Russia is far away, but Florida is nearby and, almost every Cuban in the United States has relatives who are not badly settled there.
  4. ProtectRusOrDie
    ProtectRusOrDie 8 June 2016 06: 04
    +2
    “By conducting exercises with real fighters with real weapons, testing real systems, we want to be sure that we can respond to any crisis if it arises. The demonstration of our interaction capabilities is such a sign: we are here, and we are united, ”Mr. Foggo quoted the publication.

    According to him, the number of NATO troops in these countries has increased nineteen times. However, Klintsevich is confident that the danger posed by these troops is small. Russia has no cause for concern. “Yes, they became more active, and they more aggravating the situation, trying to show that there are some aggressive intentions in Russia,” the expert noted.

    Through the mouth of Klintsevich speaks the truth. Another example of the "difference" between desired and valid. However, NATO speaking helmets are also useful - funnier than Comedy (my humble opinion: _))

    It makes sense to react, it makes no sense to seriously increase our grouping in the western direction ...

    We go further
  5. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 8 June 2016 06: 09
    +6
    The main task of the West is to draw Russia into the arms race, to tear Russia economically!
  6. Yak28
    Yak28 8 June 2016 06: 36
    +3
    I think the American military has been modeling a global strike on Russia on a map, on a computer for several decades, followed by an invasion. And when they can protect themselves from a serious retaliatory strike (using missile defense or destroying Russian military satellites, I don’t know) then the states will decide to a big war. And Russia only has to build a force field around the country, which the rocket will not break through, the plane will not fly, as in science fiction films winkOr beat first when war is already inevitable.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 8 June 2016 06: 58
      0
      Quote: Yak28
      Or beat first when war is already inevitable.

      And how to determine the moment of inevitability? smile
      1. Yak28
        Yak28 8 June 2016 07: 26
        +5
        Obviously, when Hitler accumulated an army of several million near the border of the USSR, this should have led to the idea that something would happen. For example, the same cluster of troops, planes are moving closer, the construction of military infrastructure near our borders. The activity of the submarine fleet will increase, carrier groups near our waters, air defense ships, now not 1941, can be seen from satellites, there is intelligence. wink
      2. skeptic
        skeptic 8 June 2016 09: 03
        +6
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: Yak28
        Or beat first when war is already inevitable.

        And how to determine the moment of inevitability? smile


        But how tired - so ... wassat
      3. Bayonet
        Bayonet 8 June 2016 15: 35
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        And how to determine the moment of inevitability?

        In the early sixties, during the Caribbean crisis, the war was on the verge, but thank God the mind took precedence over emotions on both sides. So to speak of a preventive strike can only people to put it mildly not reasonable. fool
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 09: 53
      0
      There is no global blow, since there are no such means of delivery - just a beautiful lobbied tale of knocking out money for arms companies.
    3. EvgNik
      EvgNik 8 June 2016 17: 08
      0
      Quote: Yak28
      I think the American military has been modeling on a map for decades, on a computer a global blow to Russia with the subsequent invasion

      And what’s interesting is that they don’t make ends meet. In any case, they lose. And never converge. It’s time to calm down.
  7. Bayonet
    Bayonet 8 June 2016 06: 55
    +3
    "Recently the naval phase of the North Atlantic Alliance exercise Baltops 2016 began. In Moscow, these exercises were considered provocative."
    Baltops exercises have been held since 1971. hi
  8. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 8 June 2016 06: 57
    0
    But in general, it is urgently necessary to tie up squandering weapons, which only enriches a certain part of people, but does not contribute to strengthening the country's defense capability. And not the fact that these sold weapons will not turn against us. The facts are more than enough. Euphoria for easy money - there is no reasonable solution !!!
  9. vobels
    vobels 8 June 2016 07: 08
    0
    ".. today there are XNUMX American bases around Russia .." Moreover, add local and smoldering military conflicts. The picture turned out like "a bear was overlaid". And if we take into account the problem with refugees in Gayrope, then more than half of the threat may disappear.
    1. skeptic
      skeptic 8 June 2016 09: 08
      +1
      Quote: vobels
      ".. today there are XNUMX American bases around Russia ..


      What will they do if the heads of the main bourgeoisie and the commanders are knocked out of their office?
  10. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 8 June 2016 07: 11
    +3
    In the case of crossing the border of the Russian Federation by any foreign groups, an immediate nuclear strike on Landon and America will follow.
    With this thought, Americans and English girls should fall asleep and wake up. It is necessary to convey this idea qualitatively and intelligibly to the English-speaking authorities and their electorate by all available means. And to sign this document with "blood" so that no one has a shadow of doubt that this will be the case.
    1. castle
      castle 8 June 2016 10: 17
      -4
      Crossing the border with troops means fire contact between troops. A nuclear strike against cities (do not you think that the state leadership will be in the places of the expected nuclear response) and, in fact, a strike against civilians, is a war crime fraught with such a response.
      1. GradusHuK
        GradusHuK 8 June 2016 18: 04
        0
        For not hell!
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 8 June 2016 19: 10
        0
        And no one will be the first to use military targets in cities - for what the hell warheads are made more accurate - KOs of several tens of meters.
      3. Alf
        Alf 8 June 2016 23: 01
        0
        Quote: hrad
        Crossing the border with troops means fire contact between troops. A nuclear strike against cities (do not you think that the state leadership will be in the places of the expected nuclear response) and, in fact, a strike against civilians, is a war crime fraught with such a response.

        Define a civilian in war or pre-war time.
        Why do you think that Russian troops will use nuclear weapons in cities? I personally believe that nuclear weapons will be used in clusters of troops, military bases and enemy CPs. It is unlikely that all this is concentrated in cities; NATO troops are still not idiots.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 19: 07
      0
      Yes, they learned this - how the Turks shot down our plane and immediately pulled their tail, though we too were confused.
  11. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 8 June 2016 07: 24
    +4
    the goal of the West to draw Russia into the arms race, to tear economically!
    1. Yurmix
      Yurmix 8 June 2016 07: 54
      +2
      Quote: Uncle Murzik
      the goal of the West to draw Russia into the arms race, to tear economically!

      Everything is true and nothing more. Russia has informed the world of its military doctrine, and one must be the last idiot counting on a blitzkrieg having moved in bulk from all the cracks of the foreign land.
      1. castle
        castle 8 June 2016 10: 29
        -5
        NATO is not a monolithic organization. And the European NATO countries are not going to fight against Russia. And it is necessary to proceed from this. There is, of course, hysteria in Ukraine, but this is not a NATO member, there is a certain phobia among the Baltic states, the former USSR, but they understand that no one will fight with Russia. They have only one interest in whipping up hysteria - getting money into the state treasury. Everyone wants to live, and the lives of their children and grandchildren, granddaughters will be protected. Russia will not be attacked. Why teachings? Anything can happen. Look how many migrants are divorced, but they are not all "refugees"
        The problem for Russia is not external enemies, but the incompetence and embezzlement of leaders, and first of all, in the localities, various mayors, governors and the heads of law enforcement agencies licking them. But to maintain their position, you need to come up with an external enemy.
        1. An60
          An60 8 June 2016 12: 22
          +3
          The Czech problem is not in NATO, but in the absence of pride.
        2. Alf
          Alf 8 June 2016 23: 04
          0
          Quote: hrad
          And the European countries of NATO are not going to fight against Russia.

          In the territories of almost all NATO countries, American military bases are located. And, in the case of the Americans delivering their first strike, these bases will be hit back, so that, of the wave-nevolence, the Europeans will be drawn into the war. Even without their desire.
  12. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 8 June 2016 07: 46
    +7
    It's time to burn this sod am
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 June 2016 07: 54
    +1
    Until our missiles are again in Cuba, the mericatos will continue to become impudent.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 8 June 2016 08: 21
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      Until our rockets are back in Cuba

      and why should they be there?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 09: 55
      +2
      Forget about missiles in Cuba forever - the Cuban authorities simply will not allow them to be delivered.
  14. Volksib
    Volksib 8 June 2016 07: 56
    +1
    Let them bark, yap fuss. In general, do not pay attention. Quietly stop emerging threats. Induct vanity and then what. Again on the offensive to the East? There is intelligence for this, so that plans, dates do not know. 41 years already will not slip.
  15. Million
    Million 8 June 2016 08: 50
    +5
    They want to take Russia to fear. It will not work!
  16. NDA
    NDA 8 June 2016 09: 05
    -1
    Our missiles, Their missiles, What is the difference in three minutes They are either here or there ... And try to figure out what happened, to the one who starts up the first one, in my opinion, he took 75 percent of the victory, because the second one needs these three minutes somehow have time to respond to the launch (and as I understand it, more than one thousand missiles will be) to work out air defense if someone did not yawn at it at the time of launch. Well, in general, if something happens, then quickly .....
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 10: 13
      +4
      What three minutes are you talking about at all - Tomahawk cruise missiles from Poland and Romania will fly at least 40 minutes, ICBMs from the United States and oceans 15-20 minutes, the only ICBMs from the UK will fly 6-7 minutes, but even so the SPRN system within two minutes will determine the threat as real and put into combat readiness all the air defense and missile defense systems of Moscow and within three minutes the strategic missile forces will launch missiles, it will not be possible to launch a surprise attack on Russia - the Cold War rule is still in force today - who will fire first will die second.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 June 2016 10: 31
        +1
        "the only ICBMs from the UK will fly 6-7 minutes," ////

        According to the British military doctrine, a nuclear strike (with nuclear submarines) in Russian cities is possible only AFTER a strike from Russia on British cities.
        They do not have automatic interaction with the command of the US nuclear forces.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 8 June 2016 15: 46
          0
          So it's still easier.
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 8 June 2016 17: 16
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          They do not have automatic interaction with the command of the US nuclear forces.

          Alexei, don’t be naive. If you were told that there is no such interaction, this does not mean that it really doesn’t exist.
        3. Alf
          Alf 8 June 2016 23: 07
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          According to the British military doctrine, a nuclear strike (with nuclear submarines) in Russian cities is possible only AFTER a strike from Russia on British cities.

          Britain is part of the NATO bloc, therefore, in the event that the Americans strike first, a blow to Britain becomes inevitable, because no one will speculate whether the British vigorous loaves will take off or not.
        4. dv_generalov
          dv_generalov 9 June 2016 20: 19
          -1
          NOT a fact. There are no joint instructions for action.
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      3. dv_generalov
        dv_generalov 9 June 2016 20: 18
        0
        If a global strike is planned, then it will not be alone. And not even a dozen. There is something to think about!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 13: 31
      0
      What kind of 3 minutes are you talking about - Tomahawks from Poland and Romania will fly for at least 40 minutes, ICBMs from the United States and oceans about 15-20 minutes, although ICBMs from the UK will only fly 6-7 minutes, but even this time would be enough for the system SPRN identified the missile attack as real, transferred it to the General Staff, and they put on alert all the Russian air defense, as well as the Moscow missile defense system, the IL 80 command post which is constantly in the air activates the Perimeter system, at the same time these our Strategic Missile Forces will respond rockets. The law of the Cold War is still valid today - whoever shoots first, dies second - and not a destructive, sudden global strike will succeed.
  17. pigkiller
    pigkiller 8 June 2016 09: 44
    +2
    Their calculation is primarily on the fifth column in Russia. It is doubtful that someone would want
    pulled monoblocks towards their overseas real estate and children studying at elite colleges and universities in the overseas west.
  18. Rostislav
    Rostislav 8 June 2016 09: 51
    +2
    A real war against Russia is possible only with 150% confidence in the impossibility of a reciprocal application of strategic nuclear forces

    Everyone understands this. The problem is different - with the growth of mutual distrust and the growth of tension, the likelihood of an accidental failure and the situation getting out of control also increases.
    Everyone knows the saying that "Once a year, and an unloaded gun fires". And if there are a hundred or so guns hanging on the wall?
    That is the danger.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 8 June 2016 10: 23
      -1
      The West accepted the de facto annexation of Crimea - a war over
      this is not tied up. Also accepted and de facto accession
      parts of Donbass to Russia.
      What the West - yes - did: prevent (possible) "peaceful annexation"
      any part of the Baltics to Russia. In each of the 3 republics, a NATO military base has been established, about the size of a battalion with short-range weapons. The goal - "demonstration of the flag" - to show that the entry of any "green" or other little people will be regarded as an attack on the NATO bloc.
      Well, Poland was frightened, as the advanced country of NATO, secured a base, increased its army.
      After a few years, they will get used to these changes, as they are used to the Crimea.
      Regularly large exercises are held that Russia, that NATO.
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  19. gelezo47
    gelezo47 8 June 2016 10: 26
    +4
    There will be no such war as World War II, and the mattress will not be able to protect itself from a retaliatory strike, hoping that the war will only be on the European continent ...
  20. Kamarada
    Kamarada 8 June 2016 11: 13
    +2
    Yes, sworn partners are not necessary, they will sell their authorities in giblets.
  21. goody
    goody 8 June 2016 11: 39
    0
    Why do we need Cuba? For political pressure? On the ground of the Californian coast there are probably already several of our nuclear submarines - and that’s all! Launch missiles from submerged and kirdyk America.
  22. kam4atka
    kam4atka 8 June 2016 12: 01
    +2
    Hmm. Does anyone else believe in EU friendship, the usa with Russia? For centuries, they destroy us, and the campaign decided on the final blow. It is a pity that there are many traitors in the government.
  23. Taygerus
    Taygerus 8 June 2016 12: 13
    +2
    such friends of the enemies are not necessary, so that let the mattresses and the geyropa partner with each other
  24. Every
    Every 8 June 2016 12: 22
    0
    In my opinion, all this fuss with NATO exercises in the Baltic states was conceived by the Americans to:
    1. Knock out as much money as possible for the Ministry of Defense, in which case the arms companies win the most. Most likely they are the ones who are paying for the escalation of the situation around Russia.
    2. Draw Russia into the arms race, force it to incur enormous expenditures on defense, an increase in the size of the army and weapons (and soldiers need to be fed, equipped, etc. Refueling, repairing equipment). And this will lead to lower costs, primarily for social programs, which in turn will lead to discontent within the country. And signs of growing discontent are already showing.
  25. NUR
    NUR 8 June 2016 13: 32
    +4
    Russia's mistake is that after the victory allows the development of the armies of the losing countries. It is necessary to forbid the losing countries to have armed forces, only the police, to protect these countries themselves, at their expense, for example, 2% of GDP.
  26. sieras
    sieras 8 June 2016 14: 35
    0
    throw this news. "in connection with the aggressive actions of NATO and the desire to destroy the leadership responsible for the nuclear arsenal, a new law is being issued allowing the use of nuclear weapons by the head of the garrison at his own discretion" let the "partners" scratch themselves: D
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 19: 15
      0
      This will definitely not happen anywhere.
  27. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 June 2016 17: 56
    +1
    The main thing is not to repeat the mistake of 1941, and be prepared for everything. But the answer and consequences should be such that before the year 3000 they shudder at the word Russia.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 8 June 2016 18: 57
      -1
      Most likely after this, all those remaining will tremble at the word nuclear weapons.
  28. GradusHuK
    GradusHuK 8 June 2016 18: 08
    0
    Quote: hrad
    NATO is not a monolithic organization. And the European NATO countries are not going to fight against Russia. And it is necessary to proceed from this. There is, of course, hysteria in Ukraine, but this is not a NATO member, there is a certain phobia among the Baltic states, the former USSR, but they understand that no one will fight with Russia. They have only one interest in whipping up hysteria - getting money into the state treasury. Everyone wants to live, and the lives of their children and grandchildren, granddaughters will be protected. Russia will not be attacked. Why teachings? Anything can happen. Look how many migrants are divorced, but they are not all "refugees"
    The problem for Russia is not external enemies, but the incompetence and embezzlement of leaders, and first of all, in the localities, various mayors, governors and the heads of law enforcement agencies licking them. But to maintain their position, you need to come up with an external enemy.

    So, influence your, members, before it’s too late! Just then the whole organism will suffer UNIVERSALLY! But you don’t have to teach us how to live. It’s troublesome!
  29. akudr48
    akudr48 8 June 2016 19: 12
    0
    They are not friends to us, not partners

    Good headline!

    He only contradicts the statements of our head rower in the galleys; he calls them partners and friends. And from him, and subordinates are also stupidly charged for constant friendship with partners from Lisbon to Vladivostok.
    Although they have already put a knife to our throat with US bases in Poland and Romania.

    What causes direct cognitive dissonance. Do not touch partners, a groan is heard throughout the great Russia from high offices ...

    The dissonance, however, turns into schizophrenia, when our mini-maker Lavrov first called Kiev fascists bandits, and then, within the framework of an interview, again returned the old term of friends and partners, who should not be touched, since they are partners, and said about the recognition of the referendum in LDNR That is counterproductive. For whom is counterproductive, for partners, or what?

    So Gref does not touch, without opening Sberbank on Russian territory, in Crimea, since his friends and partners in the West do not consider Crimea Russia, and since there, in the West, our partners are noble people, then Gref is quite a noble person.

    Grushko distinguished himself by the same affiliate disease, stating that in the West discuss a non-existent problem. No plans for any attack on Poland. Like, I give a tooth, there are no plans, honestly, I swear by my mother, do not touch us, believe us, please, and similar excuses. Which, incidentally, the West did not demand, and we, in the words of this partnering official, did give our partners on the initiative. Or is it not an excuse, but a promise?

    The sources of love for partners are obvious, this is many $ billions stolen from the Russian people and exported to the West, a kind of pledge left by the ruling class from the enemy, as a guarantee of its unconditional loyalty to Western values ​​and partners in the truest sense of the word.

    Well, do not consider your people as partners, to whom Medvedev in the Crimea, declared that there is no money, but you hold on, and with a leg jumped, flew away ...

    And how our supreme rower will defend the interests of the people of Russia with such "elitists" mired in partnership, that is the question ...
  30. erik cartman
    erik cartman 9 June 2016 00: 21
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    Quote: GradusHuK
    I wonder when the red line will be crossed?

    Today's Europeans do not have the spirit to cross the "red line". By and large, they have no time for us. First of all, Europe needs to think not about how to confront Russia, but how they will fight the millions of refugees from Africa when they raise a big nix.
  31. silver_roman
    silver_roman 9 June 2016 12: 12
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    Poles - Hyenas of Europe. In vain they were given anew to rebuild their state. The question of Poland was resolved, it was necessary to block it and never again return to it. Vile and mean mongrel. It is a pity that it is impossible as in the old days, one on one. angry