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About euPRO, Deveselu and Romanian otare

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Last December, the Pentagon and the Romanian Ministry of Defense announced the technical functionality of the US missile defense segment, which is located at the base in Romania’s Deveselu.


When the construction of the necessary infrastructure was only planned (and it was still under Bush Jr.), Washington loudly announced that this segment along with the Polish would protect the borders of Eastern Europe from Iranian and even North Korean missiles. The fact that they are Iranian and North Korean missiles capable of delivering a hypothetical nuclear charge to Bucharest and Warsaw was not distributed in the Pentagon, presenting the information in its usual form: “We know for sure, but we cannot say for it is secret” . The Czechs, in whose territory Washington was going to deploy one of the European missile defense segments, anticipating something wrong and doubting the ability of Iranian missiles to reach the Velkopopovetsky goat factories, prudently left the game. But worried about their vulnerability to Tehran and Pyongyang, the Romanians struck in (with the help of the States) ... They instead of the Czechs in the end became the next one-armed gangster in the US military gaming industry. Together with the Poles ...

The American radar AN / SPY-1, included in the Aegis Ashor system, appeared in the mentioned Deveselu. The same system includes a vertical launch of the Standard SM-3 Block IB. According to published data, such missiles on the Romanian base US missile defense 24.

American friends of all Romanians, without exception, after the start of operation of the base in Deveselu, once again stated that the Russian nuclear potential of the Pentagon, you understand, did not even think to infringe. Like, and like the Romanian facilities, the Russian nuclear potential will be infringed if the planned trajectories of flights of Russian missiles pass much further north - over the Baltic, Scandinavia, the seas of the Arctic Ocean. Moreover, not everyone says that the Pentagon once again tries to compare the sour with the fluffy, resorting to the old practice of double meanings and standards. For some reason, in the case of Iran, it is said that the US missile defense system protects Europe, and in the case of Russia they talk about the trajectories in the direction of the United States only. But, excuse me ... And besides the territory of the United States itself, in relation to Russia, doesn’t an objective security threat arise from the territory of the same Europe? This is the threat that the American partners are going to hone to jewelry performance, swearing that the missile defense system in Deveselu is in no way directed against Russia.

Moreover, Washington, exploiting false promises literally at every turn, has so merged with this lie that now it does not even try to explain to the same Romanians, why the “anti-Iranian” European missile defense gave up to them, if breakthroughs were achieved with Washington’s Iran cessation of nuclear research weapons. Although the Romanians do not ask ... But who are these Romanians at all, to ask Mr. something? .. It is said that they built the infrastructure for an anti-missile defense system. And the Romanian "commander" of this object is such a commander, that, based on the Pentagon directive, he is the last on a military facility for Deveselu, who can at least inspect the internal component of the base.

In general, Bucharest is happy, because a bone was thrown from the American treasury ... More precisely, a couple of hundred million dollars as a measure of "economic support" for loyalty to the course of partnership within NATO.

The effect of the comprehensive Romanian joy was somewhat spoiled by Russian President Vladimir Putin. While on a visit to Greece, he said that, they say, if the Romanian “partners” were somewhat more forward-looking, they would prefer two hundred million dollars not to be a new goal for Russia. He says, “We, of course, understand that the missile defense facility in Devesela is not directed at us, you know, but we still want to ask you, partners, and who then? .. The partners began the usual lowing, that, they say, this is a top secret - maybe against the “Armenian dirty bomb”, which was announced in Istanbul by the President of Azerbaijan Ilham Aliyev ... Maybe even against the atomic submarine fleet Mongolia ... In short, bustling partners ...

And Putin did not remain silent, actually making it clear that Russian military surveyors and cartographers are already remotely evaluating the folds of the Romanian landscape and elevation changes in the Deveselu area, so that other military experts would then lay the optimal route of neutralization ammunition to the new target. Moreover, this is not directed at all against Romania ... Purely against Aegis Ashor - preventively ... So that one precise hit after passing an ammunition route will be enough to completely neutralize the American “shield”.

And for some reason the Romanians were tense. Apparently, the imagination has already painted color pictures of how the sheep knocked off the flocks (herds) of the shepherd Mihai knocking horns on the new gate of the antimissile base, frightened by the noise of the duty operator, who is already looking for a red button that sleeps. They also draw pictures of how the commander of the calculation of the operational-tactical complex "Iskander-M" somewhere in the Crimea, in response, gives an order to neutralize all this "flock" together with the operator ...

They also strained because Russia knew very well about Deveselu. If only because the base there was originally built by Soviet specialists in the fifties of the last century. Even the coordinates on the Soviet tablets remained ... 44 ° 4'27 "N, 24 ° 25'3" E. And these coordinates can be useful not only for car navigators ...

If such pictures and news of the Romanian public are impressive, then the question for the Romanians is: on what scale to measure the level of your masochism? Or is the desire to be rewarded with a slap on the shoulder from the “friends” from the United States much higher than the desire to quietly exist and lead a civilized partnership?
In the text in one of the replicas instead of 200 billion dollars for Romania, of course, 200 millions.

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  1. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 6 June 2016 06: 43
    +12
    Well, the Romanians in the Second World War were distinguished by their "intelligence and ingenuity" ... as we see now, their priorities have not changed - the Romanian import, however ...
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 6 June 2016 07: 56
      +8
      Quote: Shiva83483
      Well, the Romanians in the Second World War were distinguished by "intelligence and ingenuity."

      They fought for Nazi Germany almost voluntarily. The Germans were driven and they quickly repainted.
      In Soviet times, I think the Union was well milked, but with the beginning of the "parade of sovereignties" they began to kick.
      Now they probably wanted to avenge the "occupation" like the others, but this is how it will come back to haunt them ...
      1. Kostyar
        Kostyar 6 June 2016 08: 50
        +4
        to the Romanians, the question is: on what scale do you measure the level of your masochism? Or is the desire to be patted on the shoulder by “friends” from the United States much higher than the desire to live quietly and maintain civilized partnerships?

        The Romanians’ one-time-close friendship with NATO is impressive ...
        Are self-preservation instincts really not working ???
        Or dollars in the eyes turned off mental activity? The prospect of not waking up once, on one beautiful sunny morning, doesn’t scare at all ??? !!!
        1. cap
          cap 6 June 2016 09: 11
          +2
          Quote: Bone
          to the Romanians, the question is: on what scale do you measure the level of your masochism? Or is the desire to be patted on the shoulder by “friends” from the United States much higher than the desire to live quietly and maintain civilized partnerships?

          The Romanians’ one-time-close friendship with NATO is impressive ...
          Are self-preservation instincts really not working ???
          Or dollars in the eyes turned off mental activity? The prospect of not waking up once, on one beautiful sunny morning, doesn’t scare at all ??? !!!


          They hope that they will have time to wash off. It will not work out nowhere. There will be a Stalin Strait in the place of the future permanent residence.
          1. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 6 June 2016 10: 14
            0
            Quote: cap
            They hope that they will have time to wash off. It will not work out nowhere. There will be a Stalin Strait in the place of the future permanent residence.

            In the scenario of the formation of the Stalin Strait, there will be no one to change permanent residence on our ball!
            He is too small for such experiments, alas!
      2. Aleksandr72
        Aleksandr72 6 June 2016 09: 07
        +3
        Something has already been said about the Romanians (regarding participation in coalition wars):
        "If Romania ended the war on the same side where it started, then it has defected twice."

        And the fighters from the Romanians are so-so, probably a little better than the Italians. And even then, if they are fighting in a coalition under the firm military-strategic leadership of another country. Example: World War II, where the actions of the Romanian army were directed by the German military leadership. And even then in the Battle of Stalingrad, mammals got a nod - the Germans as a result did not seem enough. Although at first it seemed that they fought well in Ukraine and the Crimea (at least the Romanians thought so).
        1. Corporal Valera
          Corporal Valera 6 June 2016 10: 27
          +1
          Quote: Aleksandr72
          Example: World War II, where the actions of the Romanian army were directed by the German military leadership.

          Yes, and in the First "notably" fought. We sat and wondered who to speak for. They looked at Brusilov, like: why are we worse? And, apparently, banging brave water, with a fool, declared war on Austria. They quickly shook the snot, substituting the allies and lengthening the frot exactly on the territory of their homeland. In short, hominy in one word. D.B. It is incurable!
      3. Observer2014
        Observer2014 6 June 2016 10: 04
        +1
        Video as always informative. good Only about a couple of hundred billions at 3: 16-3: 23 went over "a little", but everything is super, clear and understandable.
        Russia desperately needs an "involuntary" flight over the Romanian base, because "highly educated" Romanians hardly understand what "Eskander" is.
      4. Arkan
        Arkan 6 June 2016 11: 59
        +2
        Under the USSR, we had no gift with them, the Romanian leadership, Ceausescu, there were tense relations. And then and now, Romania remains a very poor country. "Romanian army", during the Great Patriotic War, only marauded and raped the local population. As warriors they are nothing, then and now.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 6 June 2016 17: 18
      +4
      Do not teach children to drink wine instead of milk from childhood,
      and you won’t have any Deeselu ... wassat
  2. Ros 56
    Ros 56 6 June 2016 07: 50
    +2
    Dummies they are in Africa dummies, then there are no brains. Well, what is the demand from them, they will burn only.
  3. Aleksander
    Aleksander 6 June 2016 08: 07
    +3
    The Romanians are now demanding protection from the US against the "threats" made by the GDP in Greece in response to the missile defense threat.
    Promotion of the absurd by the West continues ....
  4. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 6 June 2016 08: 30
    +2
    For Romanians, this europro is a good investment))) and in the case of freelance work, you will see that capital investments will fly up from Russia, and now a previously unknown and nondescript region will simply cover the material and technical "benefits" of civilization)))
  5. Red Army of the USSR
    Red Army of the USSR 6 June 2016 08: 33
    0
    And where does the concept of homeland come from?
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 6 June 2016 08: 37
    +1
    Bucharest is happy because a bone was thrown from the American treasury ...... You won't be full of mamalyga ... but here is a whole bone ... I wonder if this bone will be buried on a "rainy day" or they will be gnawed right away ...
  7. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 6 June 2016 09: 21
    +2
    It is necessary to target such numbers of missiles and gypsies so that they have no illusions about the chances of survival. They must be 100% sure that in the event of a collapse of their territory, together with a dumb population, they will be qualitatively transformed into a lunar-Martian landscape! There should be a 100% guarantee on our part that these countries will not exist in principle.
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 June 2016 09: 27
    +1
    People were given money for this, what are you bothering?
    They didn’t give truth to those to whom the missiles will fly, but to those
    who decides to allow the placement.
    For it is both cheaper and faster and more accurate to coordinate the issue.
  9. Volksib
    Volksib 6 June 2016 09: 45
    +3
    The state, which is not even 300 years old, keeps so many nations on its bent knees and at the same time feeds it with a tale of "alliance". The warriors from the defectors, in principle, are none. Psam always needs a master.
  10. arkadiyssk
    arkadiyssk 6 June 2016 10: 09
    -6
    In fairness, this rhetoric is mutual. We are angry and threatening Romania, because in a couple of years, the base will cover everything from Devesela, all the way to Moscow. The Romanians have no special way out - they are forced to worry about their own security, they do not have enough forces of their own, therefore they hire the USA in the form of NATO. Hiring someone for their protection is in my opinion not shameful and not funny, as the author here imagine - no one is laughing at the person who hires a security guard or private security company to protect the house or puts an alarm on a car? The same Putin is cool, what is he afraid of and walks with security? So it is with the Romanians, for them it’s not an option to be neutral, one has to choose one side, and lovers of neutrality have fresh examples - Finns 1939, Ukraine 2014.
  11. Idiot
    Idiot 6 June 2016 10: 30
    +2
    There are no longer any romania, france and germanium - there is the European Union, the fourth reich. That is why millions of chicks, mentally alien to Europeans, are being pumped into Europe, and European governments are competing in the competition for the main idiot, gay parades, biased by Eurovision. Thus, the institution of power is discredited. The Anglo-Saxons are implementing their main geopolitical plan - the physical destruction of Russia, the only transcontinental nuclear power. They concluded: Germany alone is not enough, it is necessary to create a common European state, arm it, designate the image of a global enemy and unleash it. Preparations for this are in full swing within the European Union and at first glance are not visible. But this is why Germany recognized the Armenian genocide (it is necessary to split potential allies from Russia. We recognized your genocide, and you do not prevent us from recognizing the Russians as a threat), and the next day, in its notorious "white paper", it called Russia an enemy. The state has officially recognized another state as an enemy! Opponents are confronted, and 3000 copies of "Mein Kampf" have already been thrown onto the shelves. The author is Adolf Hitler. Hitler had the goal of destroying Russia, with the goal Hitler failed, because he had the imprudence to first attack his geopolitical allies - the Europeans. Read the book and do not repeat his mistakes, contemporaries! Now you are together, 28 of you with a population of 500 million, and behind you is the United States. And the Russians are 150 million. no. And they do not know how to fight (read the Mansteins with the Guderians, count the losses of the parties along with the overmans, the Müller-Hilderbrants, the Boris Sokolovs - but they filled up the Germans with corpses in the last war: 2 million Germans against 20 million "scoops") ... in the east, Japan with an indistinct Chinese ally does not add optimism to the Russians. And the Europeans are told about this. Plus, the United States is organizing a real stranglehold on Europe - the North Atlantic Trade Union under American arbitration. Europe kicks, but the issue has already been resolved. The same union, only the Pacific one, is formed by the USA in the APR. China has not yet been invited there, but it is dear to it. As for the positional areas in Romania and Poland, V.V. I have already explained everything: these are universal starting krmplexes, where you can stuff any missile system, even medium-range, even short-range, only change the software. NATO members are few in the pseudo-European states, because NATO members will not fight. Their goal is to train cannon fodder and organize barrage battalions ... But in general, everything is not bad for us. There is someone to fight, there is something, if only the "fifth column" of that.
  12. Arkan
    Arkan 6 June 2016 11: 51
    0
    If such pictures and news of the Romanian public are impressive, then the question for the Romanians is: on what scale to measure the level of your masochism? Or is the desire to be rewarded with a slap on the shoulder from the “friends” from the United States much higher than the desire to quietly exist and lead a civilized partnership?


    The Romanians have long-standing accounts with us because of Transnistria and Moldova, and even deeper because of Bessarabia. So, it was not necessary to persuade the Romanians to engage in masochism, especially, they, as pioneers, are always ready. Plus, the money that the United States gave to the local elite, for a poor country, even a shred of wool is something for joy.
  13. Signaller
    Signaller 6 June 2016 14: 40
    0
    I did not understand. What regret it ????? Well, these people have chosen their path in the ranks of MORTARS. Well this is their fate. I think before they begin, they will deliver the first disarmament blow to them. And the business is ... Well, they will be the first in the ranks of the dead. They themselves chose their path. I personally think so. And we can’t change them. Here is all the hope for green money in your pocket now-today .. This is all thoughts. And the fact that tomorrow everything will turn to dust - ???? So no one thinks about it. Type carry .... Do not succeed. Affect everyone. SURE.
  14. Pitot
    Pitot 6 June 2016 17: 21
    0
    Nits. It is a pity that during the Second World War all these nits were not killed. Vile personalities, their vile history. My grandmother remembered these nits - the Magyars of the Utyrs.
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  16. Olegater
    Olegater 6 June 2016 18: 53
    +1
    If such pictures and news are impressive to the Romanian public, then the question for Romanians is: on what scale to measure the level of your masochism? - So on the most ram and dumb-headed scale, and measuring what is not clear here !. I’ll explain my vision of this scale: a sheep is fed and protected from wolves (the period of socialist development), a sheep is sheared and given shelter (the period when goods were purchased, exchanged science and technology and didn’t allow lice to do the dirty deed of coup) and the last scale went out flocks of a dumb, pugnacious and unremarkable good ram (the collapse of the USSR and came to Romania lice - wolves and sentenced to its liquidation). The ram did not rejoice for a long time at its crappy freedom.
  17. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 7 June 2016 14: 11
    0
    Quote: Starover_Z
    Quote: Shiva83483
    Well, the Romanians in the Second World War were distinguished by "intelligence and ingenuity."

    They fought for Nazi Germany almost voluntarily. The Germans were driven and they quickly repainted.
    In Soviet times, I think the Union was well milked, but with the beginning of the "parade of sovereignties" they began to kick.
    Now they probably wanted to avenge the "occupation" like the others, but this is how it will come back to haunt them ...

    Without "almost". They fought the USSR without any coercion. The most numerous contingent of Germany's allies on the territory of the USSR is Romanian. They distinguished themselves in the capture of Odessa and in the Crimea, as well as in punitive actions against the civilian population. Incl. Missile defense on their territory is a natural result of pushing buns in front of the strongest. Their neighbors, Bulgarians, "brothers" are the same ...