In Tula, develop a new large-caliber sniper rifle caliber 14,5 mm

In Tula TsKIB sports and hunting weapons developed new large-caliber sniper rifles, one of which can be considered "the reincarnation of the anti-tank gun of the Great Patriotic War," writes Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

Rifle OSV-96 "Burglar" in Syria

According to the newspaper, the new rifle "will have a caliber of 14,5 mm (the same as that of the anti-tank guns), and the sleeve is supposed to be used at all from a small-caliber gun."

At the same time, according to the developers, “the return of the 14,5-mm rifle will be even less tangible than that of the XMUM“ Cracker ”, a constructive solution already exists.”

It is noted that the new rifle is capable of hitting targets at a distance of over 3,5 km. And “at a distance of hundreds of meters it is capable of breaking through the wall of a building, all types of light armored vehicles and even inflicting serious damage tankdisabling its optics and other important systems brought to the tower, ”the newspaper writes.

"According to many military experts, sniper fire from large-caliber rifles on tanks and armored personnel carriers in the near future can be a very effective way of dealing with these well-protected and well-armed vehicles," the RG concludes.

Comments

[Volga Cossack]

an interesting development, albeit ambiguous, very .......

[gray smeet]

Quote: Volga Cossack

an interesting development, albeit ambiguous, very .......

Yes. Mankind has a rich fantasy on the subject of a murder weapon, and this fantasy is definitely - not unique!

[Very old]

The case where a tautology is in place
But this device will hardly be called a "rifle" - a hand cannon

[Volga Cossack]

I'm interested in its mobility - in terms of weight, they will be both PTRD and PTRS together carry ?????? Or is she disassembled in parts ????? all this quite complicates its application ........

[Wiruz]

As I understand it, then large-caliber rifles 12,7mm caliber no longer suit us? No, well, that makes sense, but then you need an intermediate cartridge. I think Lobaev’s rifle under the .408 cartridge is just that!

[Izotovp]

There is an even more delicious cartridge .416 barrett!

[avt]

As far as I remember, the Azeris made an Istigal rifle under the good old cartridge of 14,5mm, I think.

[RUSS]

Quote: avt

As far as I remember, the Azeris made an Istigal rifle under the good old cartridge of 14,5mm, I think.

Here it is.

[Vadim237]

There is also the South African NTW

[just exp]

they also wanted to do 20 and 30 mm.
xs the truth is what kind of return will be in the 30mm barrel.

[sharp-lad]

They made 20 mm.

[newcomer]

cool beast. as always_ Tulsa well done.

[Zaurbek]

The cartridge sleeve is 14,5mm and is the same with a 23mm shell. Who will shoot only from it, what weight and return? with a large line of ATGMs, the purpose is not clear.

[Wedmak]

Shoot these ATGMs. When equipped with the Fara-VR wearable radar, there will be a very effective high-precision system.
Estimate, in rain, fog, snow, with 3 km, an 14,5 mm fly into the enemy practically from nowhere.
And somewhere in Syria, on the expanses of semi-desert, he sat on a dune and knocked out everything that moves in the same radius.

[Zaurbek]

And compare, a 14.5 mm bullet hits either 100/152 mm with an HE or OD warhead. And keep in mind that you won’t hear sound and the accuracy of ATGMs doesn’t really depend on the distance.

[Wedmak]

100 / 152mm with HE or OD warhead.

Such a projectile should be fired at 3 km; this should be an infantry fighting vehicle or a tank to be customized. With the ATGM the same problem, until you put it, while you hover over, you need to take your legs off already. And with this rifle it’s easier, lay down-fired-dumped. Of course, it is rather big in itself, but it is easy and carefree to make mortar crew, sniper or ATGM crew.
It will be interesting what bullets will be there, the caliber gives great opportunities.

[cap]

Quote: Wedmak

Shoot these ATGMs. When equipped with the Fara-VR wearable radar, there will be a very effective high-precision system.
Estimate, in rain, fog, snow, with 3 km, an 14,5 mm fly into the enemy practically from nowhere.
And somewhere in Syria, on the expanses of semi-desert, he sat on a dune and knocked out everything that moves in the same radius.

Great idea. More weapons with various characteristics. At least for special forces.
And the troops, the troops.
There is where to test. Yes and on whom too.

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: Zaurbek

with a large line of ATGMs, the purpose is not clear.

The calculation of two people, with a hundred rounds of ammunition from a distance of a kilometer, will be able to destroy optics, active protection sensors, an independent power plant carried out from the hull of at least twenty tanks. The question is how many people do you need to transfer thirty ATGMs to the line of defeat?

[Zaurbek]

The calculation for the ATGM is 2 people, only he will not destroy the optics, but the object itself.

[Wedmak]

only he will not destroy optics, but the object itself.

This is if KAZ or DZ does not work. In general, there are tasks. The code must not be destroyed by the object itself, but by its observing systems.

[Zaurbek]

If Kaz or DZ works, the optics will definitely not remain intact.

[your1970]

and you specify - how many armored vehicles were in the Great Patriotic War and how many tanks they burned ?? The ratio was not very effective, we needed anti-tank weapons as ersatz ..
Regarding long distances, will you even see something ON the tank body at a kilometer distance, even with very strong optics? Or will you just see the outline of the tank and that's it?

[Black Colonel]

"The recoil of the 14,5-mm rifle will be even less noticeable than that of the 12,7-mm" Burglar ", there is already a constructive solution"
In addition to an effective muzzle brake, can there be balanced mechanics?

[Vanya]

note of the author at 14.5kpw used sleeve from 23mm gun

[RUS96]

"And" at a distance of hundreds of meters it is capable of breaking through the wall of a building, all types of light armored vehicles and even inflicting serious damage on a tank, disabling its optics and other important systems brought to the tower "" I remember we were taught in the army with a sapper shovel and a cloak - a tent against the tank. It was funny. The rangers from such a picture would definitely be crazy

[seti]

Quote: sana_59

modestly and tastefully ...))) I wonder what will happen to the human body if such a cartridge gets into it ...

Most likely it is designed to combat lightly armored moving targets. But no one canceled the shooting of officers and soldiers of the enemy in bronics and without them.

[ALABAY45]

"... caliber 14,5 mm ..."
Back in the 80s and 90s, hunters from the USA, Germany, Sweden and Japan came to us in the Magadan Region for trophy hunting .. Most of all, I was struck by the Japanese: with single-shot (!) Barrels of about the same caliber! At the bear! They considered it the highest sign of hunting skill. When I found out that they participated in a buffalo and rhino safari, I felt "uneasy" ... And even the Japanese justification for the number of cartridges in the "barrel" ("The animal, too there must be a chance! ") I was not convinced ... Until now, I do not know who they were: samurai or kamikaze .... but, the fact that the Japanese are for sure!

[cap]

Quote: ALABAY45

When I found out that they took part in a buffalo and rhino safari, I felt "uncomfortable" ... And even the Japanese justification for the number of cartridges in the "barrel" ("An animal must have a chance too!") Did not convince me ... Until now, I do not know who they were: samurai or kamikaze ... but, the fact that the Japanese are for sure! hi

How did it end?
That's interesting.

[ALABAY45]

It's over! Finished off with "SKS" ... "Zarya Severa" (Magadan region., Khasynsky district) Edition for 1989-1990 ", In my opinion ...

[cap]

Quote: ALABAY45

It's over! Finished off with "SKS" ... "Zarya Severa" (Magadan region., Khasynsky district) Edition for 1989-1990 ", In my opinion ...

Something similar and represented. Thank you.

[ALABAY45]

Yes, not at all! There (in the press) is my report ...!

[Zaurbek]

Compare the weight of the 14,5mm rifle and the weight of the ATGM

[megafair]

At such distances (over 3.5 km) - it is necessary to have a ballistic computer, preferably integrated with awnings, handles by eye - this is only shown in films.

[ver_]

Quote: sana_59

modestly and tastefully ...))) I wonder what will happen to the human body if such a cartridge gets into it ...

Quote: sana_59

modestly and tastefully ...))) I wonder what will happen to the human body if such a cartridge gets into it ...

Yes, no shit, actually there will be no scary- the cartridge does not kill ..

[sa-ag]

"... At the same time, according to the developers," the recoil of the 14,5-mm rifle will be even less noticeable than that of the 12,7-mm "Burglar", there is already a constructive solution. "

On the gun carriage?

[Wedmak]

On the gun carriage?

Maybe the counterweight is inserted.

[JonnyT]

battles in Donbass showed the relevance and demand for a large-caliber rifle. Our "partners" are well armed with large-caliber sniper rifles. With a competent tactical approach, they find themselves outside the effective fire zone of anti-sniper groups. Plus, it's a cheap way to deal with various enemy armored vehicles. All transport is being booked now. For example, spending an expensive missile from an ATGM on a handicraftly booked Kamaz is not rational, but you still need to get close to it for an RPG shot. this is where a large-caliber sniper rifle comes to the rescue

[Zaurbek]

A 12,7 mm rifle weighs from 12 kg, what is the weight of a 14,5 mm rifle? If the cartridge has 2 times more energy?

[JonnyT]

existing rifles weigh about 20 kg or more .....
But technology does not stand still, the use of new materials will reduce the whole.
As for ammunition, for this large-caliber rifle you need your own, special sniper cartridge, the characteristics of which are classified

[Zaurbek]

ATGM Bassoon do4km 9P135 - weight PU 22,5 kg

[JonnyT]

ATGM Bassoon and its missile are technically sophisticated, and therefore more expensive, compared to re-incarnation of an anti-tank rifle. And there is nothing wrong with expanding the weapons nomenclature, allowing you to choose weapons based on the task. The bassoon is more limited in the number of missiles that you can take with you, and more cumbersome when compared to a large-caliber rifle.

[Zaurbek]

And how much do you think the 14,5mm high-precision rifle is worth? Its development and launch. A bassoons in stock .... still Soviet. Plus, shooting from such an apparatus is not an easy task.

[JonnyT]

The final cost will be cheaper than the production of a new bassoon. So in a warehouse still Soviet, how old is 20? 30? and what is their shelf life ????

Whether you like it or not, you still can't get away from the production of high-precision sniper systems. The main requirement for modern weapons (and not only) is high precision, and this is high-precision metalworking. Do you think that it is more expedient to "eat up" Soviet reserves than to develop the military-industrial complex, creating new samples ????

ATGM is a petr, and a large-caliber sniper rifle is a large-caliber sniper rifle. They perfectly complement each other and contrast them, the same as contrasting sweet to salty.

[Zaurbek]

A 12,7 mm rifle weighs from 12 kg, what is the weight of a 14,5 mm rifle? If the cartridge has 2 times more energy?

[Verdun]

A 12,7 mm rifle weighs from 12 kg, what is the weight of a 14,5 mm rifle?

Well, you can figure it out. The PTRD weighed 17,3 kg. So they wore it together. This can even be seen in films. It seems that with the new trunk alone hardly anyone will work.

[Red_Hamer]

Such a good caliber, as it happened, (everything happens in life), KPVT, of the same caliber, sounded above my ear! To say that I (zero + X + igrik + letter E + letter L) means to say nothing!

[Mountain shooter]

If we consider only the technical side, then a fire monitor system with a recoil-recoil mechanism suggests itself. The PTR had a recoil - not humane, despite the spring-loaded recoil brake and there was something in the butt (in the PTRD). But for "antimaterial" weapons, this caliber is more suitable. By the way, there may already be sub-caliber bullets. If you look at the performance characteristics of the PTR during the Second World War, then an armor-piercing bullet at 100 m pierced 40 mm of armor - this is a lot.
The accuracy of this thing was - so-so, big dispersion. For the new weapon, there will probably be "cooler" barrels and special cartridges, otherwise it is pointless to shoot at long distances.

[Black Colonel]

The kitayoz created a sub-caliber bullet for their 14,5 mm machine gun (not KPV). The initial speed is slightly higher than that of our CPV.

[79522873048]

SO OR OTHERWISE, WE NEED THIS RIFLE. (JUST IN CASE).

[atakan]

Quote: 79522873048

SO OR OTHERWISE, WE NEED THIS RIFLE. (JUST IN CASE).

that's just for everyone and it is necessary, for competition, that prices from a million, when buying into the troops, should be brought down by a hundred thousand per unit.

[black]

From the point of view of "strict" sniping, anti-material rifles fall short of sniper rifles in accuracy. Problematic mobility, conditional accuracy. I can hardly imagine a match barrel, caliber 14,5mm. Question. Who needs these rifles? For what? Bring it to the battlefield, to the BMP and then shoot it at the enemy's armored vehicles? And the BMP, are we going to hide it in the bushes? Designed as anti-sniper rifles, these rifles have become anti-material. Not useful there, useful here? In practice, this is a replacement for a large-caliber machine gun. A beggar's gun? If only for export. There is a general trend. Clashes take place over long distances. What is required is a sniper weapon that stably operates at ranges of 1500-2000 meters. And at a reasonable price. This is not a matter of one year. The technology for producing a decent barrel. New ammunition. New standards for the production of cartridges.

[Verdun]

In Tula, develop a new large-caliber sniper rifle caliber 14,5 mm

Lobaev ate them. Nothing when competition is good. Both for quality and for the price tag.

[fa2998]

Quote: avt

As far as I remember, the Azeris made an Istigal rifle under the good old cartridge of 14,5mm, I think.

Back in 1996, the Hungarians made a rifle "Cheetah" M3-chambered for our cartridge 14,5 \ 114R. Initial speed-1000m / s, penetrates 25 mm. Of armor from a distance of 600 m. The first "Cheetah" M1 and M2 were caliber 12,6 , XNUMX mm - considered not enough.

[alex-cn]

I even have a bad idea of ​​how strong the optics are needed for it, with a crazy recoil. In the "Kalashnikov" it was that Chechens fired 14,5 from homemade products together, the first one put a folded quilted jacket under the butt, the second lay down on top ...

[wanderer_032]

"According to many military experts, sniper fire from large-caliber rifles on tanks and armored personnel carriers in the near future can be a very effective way of dealing with these well-protected and well-armed vehicles," the RG concludes.

Something is doubtful that from this weapon it is possible to get to the BBM vulnerability from a distance of 3 500 m. There are too many factors affecting the flight of a bullet.

And in general, with 3 500 m not even every ATGM operator can - the target can hit.

[Voenoboz]

Yes, this is a bike with only a new frame. One two shots - detected 30mm chopped-off brackets or dust. Other principles of weapon construction i.e. remote remote, so that the warrior could not die after the first shot. Search and reconnaissance systems of the enemy in the first place.

[wanderer_032]

Quote: VOENOBOZ

Other principles for building weapons i.e. remote remote, so that the warrior could not die after the first shot.

It makes no sense to fence a garden. Because the whole system will be too heavy to carry by two people.

[31rus2]

Dear, such a thing needs a doom on the basis of already developed controlled without pilot machines, here you can install powerful optics, the thermal imager and weight do not play a special role, moreover, the complex can work through UAVs

[Old26]

Quote: sana_59

modestly and tastefully ...))) I wonder what will happen to the human body if such a cartridge gets into it ...

If such a cartridge gets into a person, then besides a bruise there is hardly anything But if the bullet ... 100% death. There are no wounded from such a caliber

[Berg berg]

The main photo is clearly a specialist in sniper shooting! Leaning at the end of a long rifle barrel - the mind rolls over!

[tracer]

The people in the photo are not a sniper or Xs who. Then you can rest the barrel against the wheels and, in principle, not shoot, the bullet will be taken away anyway. And so he is aiming at the sight .., he hardly sees it at all, and there’s nothing to say on the scale of the rangefinder and corrections. Postanova .. but not a photo. It is difficult to catch a good sniper in the camera lens. Such is the military specialty. And the news is good, just great. Repeatedly Barrett had to hold a semi-automatic in his hands. The machine is correctly made. True trunk resource is minimal. This is a product ... for earning bablodos, first of all. I think our abruptly make and more reliable. We need such a weapon in the army. The SVD is not outdated; it simply fit into its segment in the armament scheme of rifle units.

[Pasha]

Would have pulled

[Radical]

Quote: sana_59

modestly and tastefully ...))) I wonder what will happen to the human body if such a cartridge gets into it ...

If the cartridge hits, there may be a bruise , and if a bullet ....

[Old warrior]

Mdya-I ..., to shoot ... in a dash ...

[NyeMoNik70]

Longing, sadness. We come up with great ones, but meanwhile there is nothing to brag about for serious work in the field! One SVD and Mosya. And with the enemies, choose-do not want. There are no words.

[philosopher]

I am not a specialist in the development of weapons, of course, but the commitment to old calibers is surprising - why? To use the old tooling available at all plants? Is this for the latest weapons? In my opinion - nonsense.
In order to keep up, you need, at a minimum, not to stagnate. Of course, a 14,5mm anti-material rifle is perhaps necessary for subversive units, but the range of tasks it solves is not great and is due to the specifics of the weapon itself. If you need an anti-sniper rifle, then .408 Chey-tac caliber to help. And if tanks, armored personnel carriers and other armored vehicles are spoiled, anti-tank missiles are more efficient.

[Evil 55]

Repeatedly watched as the "Cracker" broke the "stupid" collarbones .. From the PTRS he shot personally. With some modern devices that reduce recoil and increase the accuracy of shooting, Machine-beast .. The power of its ammunition allows you to do a lot in modern combat .. They really you can shave antennas and remove sights from cars ..

[keryamladhiy]

I have seen this video on the Internet for a long time.
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[serge siberian]

aaa come in handy. such a thing in the "HOUSEHOLD" DOESN'T interfere. all the more that it is stated that it finishes up to 3500 meters. that's the question of how soon the product will be ready, at least for testing. the weight can be reduced to a minimum. now there are so many different materials. and yet such a thing is necessary in order for three kilometers to knock out both equipment and manpower (horses, mullahs in the mountains use them as equipment, once read in books).

[tracer]

Motorola seriously injured, transported to Russia for surgery. Only read the news.

[atakan]

Five shots and a sanbat, five more and treat a fracture.)

[Eugene-Eugene]

Links are made to specific content, and not to the general site. In a wooden copy-paste all can. Article minus.

[BEECH 1972]

Quote: sana_59

modestly and tastefully ...))) I wonder what will happen to the human body if such a cartridge gets into it ...

Exactly the same as with the body of Watermelon. Tear like a Tuzik heating pad! Especially if the bullet is expansive! In general, something like this:

[BEECH 1972]

Quote: Blondy

Quote: Orionvit

Cartridge caliber 14,5 x 114 mm. long developed, and has pretty good ballistic characteristics. Why reinvent the wheel with a new sleeve is not clear.

At 3.5 km, a bullet from a standard machine-gun cartridge may fly, but that's where it will hit. It is not for nothing that they make special snipers at a very special price. All this resembles the so-called "anti-material weapon" of mattress mats, for a couple of kilometers it will stick somewhere in a target the size of an armored personnel carrier, that's all intact.

We also have high-precision rifles and cartridges for them. Including Lobaev - "LOBAEV Arms" and Kozhaev - "SKAT" have excellent rifles that are not inferior to the best world analogues. But there is one "But", all such rifles of our private manufacturer are only piece production and fine-tuning.
- As soon as they start production of a somewhat large-scale series, immediately for some reason quality problems begin. If the same Western Blaser or Sako, the share of products that do not meet the declared parameters does not exceed 2-3 percent, for our manufacturers this figure can be from 20 to 50 percent or more. The same applies to the production of precision-guided munitions that they have launched. A cartridge for precision shooting is not only in mass production. In small batches in the interests of the Ministry of Defense and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, they produce excellent ammunition for any high-precision weapons, which practically do not require fine-tuning for firing at distances of up to XNUMX meters. A mass production of high-quality ammunition for precision shooting is not at all anywhere else. There are a number of Western manufacturers producing good ammunition and claiming to produce special sniper ammunition on a serial scale, but nevertheless, their ammunition, despite their relatively good quality, as long-range ammunition leaves much to be desired and to achieve certain results require additional refinement or refinement, both of the sleeve and the charge with the capsule, and of the bullet itself. We have a completely similar situation in this regard, except that mass release has been established and such ammunition is not freely accessible for private individuals, such as in the same West, where you can buy anything you like for money from weapons or ammunition.