M-3 rifled grenade launcher in service with the American Army

84-mm rifled anti-tank grenade launcher Carl Gustaf M3 produced by Saab AB has been officially adopted in the USA, the blog reports bmpd citing Jane's Missiles & Rockets magazine.

Soldier of the 4 Brigade of the 101 of the United States Army Air Assault Division with RPG МNNUMX MAAWS (Saab Carl Gustaf M3). Fort Campbell, 3

The M3 enters the service of every US infantry platoon. The RPG calculation consists of their 2-man - grenade launcher and his assistant.

“The appropriate procedures and guidelines for achieving full material release (FMR) RPGs М3 should be completed by the end of 2016, however, from the beginning of 2016, RPGs М3 began to arrive in the US Army and National Guard units. Requirements for the preparation of rocket launchers, which must still be formally approved, first include the conduct of annual practical shooting each calculation, ”writes the magazine.

The command of special forces uses this grenade launcher already with 1987 g (75-th regiment of the Rangers), in 1997 of the city they were armed with SEAL units, and then all the other units of special purpose.

“In 2011, Carl Gustaf began to be supplied to light infantry and airborne units of the US Army operating in Afghanistan, for which its procurement was made as part of programs to quickly meet urgent operational requirements. In October, the 2012 of the Year, the Council of the United States Army on the development of requirements, approved the adoption of the M3 into service as a standard infantry weapons, and in 2014, the corresponding standardization process of the grenade launcher was launched, ”the publication reminds.

Comments

[avvg]

If the Americans are arming terrorists, will they not be coming soon to terrorists?

[mishastich]

He already has it. Karl Gustav is the same age as the RPG-7. Many modifications and a wide range of ammunition. Yes, and on rollers in Libya and Syria glowed.

[yushch]

Quote: mishastich

He already has it. Karl Gustav is the same age as the RPG-7. Many modifications and a wide range of ammunition. Yes, and on rollers in Libya and Syria glowed.

You are right. The US Marine Corps has been using it for a long time. The only thing I want to add is that Karl Gustav is not quite a grenade launcher, technically it is a recoilless gun, but everywhere he is called a grenade launcher

[cniza]

A serious apparatus, the United States will surely pass it on to the barmalei and Ukrainians will again beg ...

[DMB_95]

Quote: cniza

A serious apparatus, the United States will surely pass it on to the barmalei and Ukrainians will again beg ...

With this clientele, it's understandable. Why anti-tank grenade launcher of the State National Guard? Apparently, there will be training "someone" for wars outside the states.

[mishastich]

US National Guard - US Reserve. There is also the so-called Reserve Army. These units are armed with less modern equipment and are trained according to army standards. So the answer to the question of why they need grenade launchers lies on the surface.
+ There are a variety of paramilitary organizations in the United States.

Someone for the wars outside, will be trained in the camps of various PMCs.

[DMB_95]

Is it allowed under the laws of the states to use the National Guard overseas? And in North America, for whom to use anti-tank weapons? They will cook at the bases of the National Guard for actions abroad of any jackals.

[yushch]

Quote: DMB_95

Is it allowed under the laws of the states to use the National Guard overseas? And in North America, for whom to use anti-tank weapons? They will cook at the bases of the National Guard for actions abroad of any jackals.

I can confidently say that in Iraq, after the completion of the active phase of hostilities, the combat units of the US Army and the ILC were replaced by units of the National Guard.

[pofigist_26_eng]

This is not entirely true. According to the current structure in the National Guard, grenade launchers will play the role of weapons supporting the platoon level, i.e. one calculation for 15-30 people.
The National Guard in the United States plays the role of internal troops, which is used to suppress public discontent and protect territories in emergency situations. In extreme cases, it can be involved as garrison forces, although whether they are capable of conducting hostilities even with enemy irregular forces is very doubtful.

[Basarev]

And most interestingly, the States did not master the RPGs of their own design. Although the starting conditions were the best.

[Kasym]

Recently there was a report that the Swedes were being pulled into NATO. And these are "gifts" for the Swedish military-industrial complex to put pressure on the authorities. The Yankees will add a couple of diesel submarines or reckless Swedish tanks for "complete happiness" by the military-industrial complex.
The RPG-7 will be more comfortable to carry, can be worn on the shoulder.

[svp67]

In the United States, the 84-mm Carl Gustaf M3 rifled anti-tank grenade launcher manufactured by Saab AB has been officially adopted, the bmpd blog reports with reference to the Jane's Missiles & Rockets magazine.

It’s interesting in the American blogosphere, there are screams now that they say, how are we buying weapons from some Swedes?

[Anglorussian]

That's interesting in the American blogosphere, there are screams

There is no screaming and sorrow, but reasoning of this kind takes place there.

[Thunderbolt]

A good order for the Swedish gunsmiths, for Saab. They will do it there, not in America? Now you probably need to compare the anti-tank capabilities of them and our infantry platoon. Or, in general, platoon fire capabilities. Topic for the whole article, if not the cycle ...

[kapitan92]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Not a bad order for Swedish gunsmiths, for Saab. They will do it there, not in America?

On September 24, 2014, the Swedish group Saab AB fired the Carl Gustaf M4 hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher at the Bofors test site in Karlskog (Sweden), the newest version of the world widespread Carl Gustaf 84-mm rifled RPG, produced in various versions since 1948. The main difference between the M4 version was a significant reduction in the weight of the unloaded RPG - up to 6,7 kg, against 9,7 kg for the M3 modification, and 14,2 kg for the M2, which is still widely used today. This is achieved mainly through the use of a titanium barrel with a carbon nozzle in the M4, instead of a steel barrel on the M3. In general, the weight of the barrel in the M4 has been reduced by 1,1 kg, and the weight of the nozzle by 0,8 kg. At the same time, the barrel length has been reduced from 1065 to less than 1000 mm. It is stated that the resource of the barrel remained the same - 1000 shots, and the shot counter was added. A double fuse has also been introduced, which makes it possible to carry the RPG in a charged form (it was forbidden on previous versions). As standard, the M4 uses the same telescopic sight as the M3, but the new version has a Picatinny rail, which allows you to mount a wide range of sighting equipment. the front handle is also mounted on the bar, which can be replaced with a remote start system, for installing RPGs on armored vehicles, etc. Saab is reportedly planning to develop an "intelligent sight" for the M4, which will allow the use of promising ammunition with programmable detonation.
There are currently 11 different types of grenades available for the RPG Carl Gustaf on the market.
http://vpk.name/news/118365_granatomet_carl_gustaf_m4.html?new

[Yarik76]

Tell me what is the point of rifling in the pipe? Wrong speed 'wrong range?

[spech]

Yarik76 RU, here accuracy steers

[Primipilus]

Quote: Yarik76

Tell me what is the point of rifling in the pipe? Wrong speed 'wrong range?

Accuracy is improving.

[ratfly]

Guys who knows, why the hell is he slicing? Does the grenade have stabilizers? Is there a caliber to him? Is he charging in the back?

[Leto]

Quote: ratfly

Guys who knows, why the hell is he slicing? Does the grenade have stabilizers? Is there a caliber to him? Is he charging in the back?

Karl Gustav is actually a recoilless gun with dimensions that allow you to shoot from your shoulder. Stabilizers do not give such accuracy as a rifled barrel, they are cheaper, easier to manufacture and operate, but you have to pay for it with accuracy over long distances.

[Primipilus]

Quote: ratfly

Guys who knows, why the hell is he slicing? Does the grenade have stabilizers? Is there a caliber to him? Is he charging in the back?

Having grooves in the barrel, the grenade already begins to unwind there and when it leaves the barrel it is already stabilized. Which increases its accuracy.

[Forest]

For it was developed on the basis of the Swedish anti-tank rifle of the 1942 model of the year. The grenade launcher 48. A very ancient thing.

[voyaka uh]

It is debatable whether he is needed?
As anti-tank weapons are weak, this is clear.
Against light armored vehicles, too, not very much - up to 1 km, not enough.
Only low weight and cheapness justify the choice.

[Primipilus]

What did the USA have before Carl Gustaf?

[kapitan92]

Quote: Primipilus

What did the USA have before Carl Gustaf?

M1, M6, M9, M18, M20 (Super Bazooka), M79, Mk 153, M67, Mk47, M72, M136,

[Vadim237]

For Carl Gustaf M4, a new tandem shot was made with an armor penetration of 700 millimeters, and a firing range of 600 - 700 meters for decent grenade launchers was decent.

[donavi49]

It’s even needed, Afran proved when the Americans had to request air support or spend expensive Javelin on the hut. Whereas the Afghan colleagues or other ISAF allies - carried out these tasks 2-4 shots from the Seven.

[voyaka uh]

"or spend an expensive Javelin on a hut" ////

Yes, here you are right ... to fill up the wall of unburnt
brick, such Gustav or RPG-7 - that’s it.

[shinobi]

It seems to me that I drank another lave. Even in the 20s of the last century and in the USSR, Germany, in the United States itself, the futility of rifled dynamically non-rolling recoil was proved experimentally. This is not just a step back, a step to the beginning of the last century. As you do not weigh on the old to the hammock, she will not become a new Bentley.

[JonnyT]

good grenade launcher. Only heavy, expensive and non-wear resistant

[K-50]

84 mm rifled manual anti-tank grenade launcher

Interestingly, didn’t you try to install stabilizers on the rocket at an angle? Any technological and cheaper production will be immediately.

[31rus2]

Dear, that's the "charm" in the US army, that without straining they buy for the army wherever they want and what they want, without bothering

[bibobo]

We would also have a new grenade launcher! RPG is certainly cool, but it's already out of date!

[Verdun]

84 mm rifled manual anti-tank grenade launcher Carl Gustaf M3

I don’t understand why to make an anti-tank grenade launcher rifled. The main ammunition for such weapons is cumulative. A rotation of the projectile reduces the cumulative effect.

[pofigist_26_eng]

This is not entirely accurate. Yes, indeed, the rotation of the projectile prevents the formation of a cumulative jet, but this occurs with a significant rotation characteristic of artillery shells. For such shells, a different design of the warhead of the shell is needed. For grenade launchers, a rotation speed in the range of 10-200 r / s is characteristic.