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NATO generals live in a fantasy world

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First I want to quote one. "From a military point of view, the threat in the east is much more significant, since Russian capabilities, including an extensive nuclear arsenal, potentially raise the issue of existence itself. However, the intentions of the (RF) are unclear. armaments with NATO. "




This is not a quote from the next western divan "expert" or "analyst." This is a quote from the speech of the NATO general. And not just a general, but one of the leading leaders of the alliance - General Peter Pavel, Chairman of the NATO Military Committee.

“There are no incursions into NATO territory, but Russian activity takes place in the nearby international air and sea space. There are many such cases, and their number is constantly growing,” he said. “This is consistent with the nature of Russian military activity and relates, in particular, to long-range aviation. We have seen Russian strategic bombers even over the English Channel. These actions serve to demonstrate the power of Russia. "

Like this. No more, no less. It turns out that Russia is pulling up troops within the borders of NATO. It turns out that we are placing missile defense elements at the borders of the alliance, breaking agreements. Not weird?

It seems that the NATO generals have played computer games. Those where monsters, aliens, combat robots come out against super-soldiers ... And where super-soldiers always win. Beautifully conducted command and staff exercises, defeating the enemy on paper. And the perfect separation from reality.

Or maybe this is the purpose of such statements? Maybe Paul should have frightened the western man in the street? Most people believe in what they say from television screens, from the tribunes of parliament, at government meetings. People think that lying at this level is impossible.

It seems to me that the purpose of the statement by the chairman of the NATO military committee is precisely to prepare information for the western man in the street to expand the alliance. To an increase in the military budget of states, members of the bloc. Of course, defense above all. And modern defense, especially in the light of the achievements of the Russian "defense industry", will cost Western society much more than before. Peter Pavel simply sets the stage for "soft pressure" on Europeans.

TASS has published a response to this attack by a NATO general from our Foreign Ministry.

“They drew attention to the fabrications of the main NATO military about the alleged“ threats from the East ”going beyond the framework of ethics for the exclusively“ peace-loving and defensive ”North Atlantic alliance,” the Russian Foreign Ministry noted. “In particular, to the general’s allegations that Russia uses in the fight against the West, hybrid tactics involving “torture and lies” can strike across the alliance in the Baltic States, as well as speculating on the possibility of deploying seven divisions in Poland and the Baltic countries in order to “avoid to defeat this region. "

"If earlier, Mr. Pavel’s statements were only a bunch of hackneyed theses caused by extremely intrusive intra-bloc installations, now the leadership of the NATO Military Committee seems to have completely lost the sense of reality and understanding of the causal-effect relationships of current processes in European security ".

The answer, as you can see, is complete. Almost does not require decoding from a diplomatic to a human language. Roughly speaking, the Russian Foreign Ministry hinted transparently that the roof of General Pavel did not go far in the direction of ... NATO’s eastern neighbor. Fear, of course, has large eyes, but not to the same degree.

Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not pass by Pavel’s statement that Europe should not be afraid of "calls from the Middle East." If you think a little bit, then NATO, through the mouth of Pavel, puts the danger from Russian imaginary threats above the danger from ISIS terrorists.

“What does the postulate about the“ unviableness ”of calls from the south against the background of the recent monstrous terrorist attacks in Paris and Brussels and the growing threats from the Islamic State group (a terrorist group banned in the Russian Federation)?”

Maybe it is incorrect to remind the Europeans about the recent attacks. Europe is trying to "forget" these terrible explosions. Forget the dead. Forget about danger. It works the usual "protection" of the human psyche.

Maybe it is incorrect to remind the Europeans about how their games ended in the middle of the last century? How many lives it cost mankind.

It may not be correct to remind Europeans how many lives of peaceful Syrians are on their conscience because of two years of “smearing snot” instead of a serious operation to destroy terrorists.

I understand the desire of representatives of the alliance to "knock out" an increase in the budget for the next year. I understand that it is necessary to “fight” for money with the parliaments of the member countries of the bloc. I understand that in this struggle Russia is the most suitable object of intimidation of the population of Europe. I understand.

And in the Russian Foreign Ministry understand this.

"... in the face of the apparent inability of NATO to make a significant contribution to countering the real challenges of our time, such as terrorism, only the unwinding of the anti-Russian campaign allows the alliance to push its member states to increase military spending and at least somehow remain afloat."

The only thing I don’t understand is why the leadership of the alliance is ready to sacrifice the lives of people in pursuit of a budget. Those people who pay all the "general games". After all, it is clear to any thinking person that such statements "past the ears" are not passed. And measures to counter the possible development of events are being developed.

A rational explanation of this statement by General Peter Pavel was formed by me. So you can say only in one case. Only when fully confident in the "honesty" of the likely opponent, in the loyalty of this opponent to his word, in his own security, finally.

Only now, again, we have to remind President Putin’s words about drawing Russia into a new arms race. We will not increase our army quantitatively. We will improve the quality of equipment, weapons, equipment of soldiers. We will make an army that will consist of professionals not only in terms of material payments, but also in possession of equipment and weapons.

We have to become real "fighters". We are Russia as a state. The army as a power of the state. The people as the basis of the state. And in battle there is only one effective battle tactic. Block to defend against attack and hit. Strike that takes the enemy out of battle. To what extent, it does not matter. The main thing is that the enemy is no longer a fighter.

Oh, in vain, General Peter Paul is so carelessly throwing dirt in our direction. Nothing but your own dirty hands, will not achieve. But we are angry ...
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  1. Nik_One
    Nik_One 18 May 2016 06: 28
    +11
    The generals and politicians themselves live in a normal world, but they come up with a virtual world for the population in order to justify the advancements of their careers, their incomes, and indeed their existence and purpose.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 18 May 2016 07: 13
      +10
      Yes, they are simply arrogant! They know that Russia will not attack anyone - that’s it!
      They haven’t received anything from Russia in the face for a long time - and they are preparing for war the first to attack Russia. The Pentagon is not its own - not the American continent - it is not a pity. And the NATO countries will not ask Washington at all about the start of the war with Russia.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 18 May 2016 09: 16
        +12
        Quote: Tatiana
        For a long time in the face from Russia did not receive - So they are preparing for war the first to attack Russia. The Pentagon is not its own - not the American continent - it is not a pity. And the NATO countries will not ask Washington at all about the start of the war with Russia.

        Well, the Americans avoided such a fate for the last time - in April 45 they planned Operation Unthinkable, but even taking into account the fact that captured German divisions would be the first to be thrust under our tanks, no one would return to America! Everyone in Europe would remain ... The Atlantic is not the Seine or even the English Channel. Only A. Bombar managed to swim on an elastic band. That would be a lesson to America ...

        By the way, the day before yesterday I heard that the staff American clown Michael Beam-Bom did not even want to listen to anyone in the studio. He kept repeating: "Why is Russia not going to dialogue? Why does Russia not believe us?" But how can America be believed if Berlin has not yet been taken, and they have already completed captured German divisions for war with the USSR? If Japan has just signed its surrender - is the Dropshot plan ready in America?

        It is not our fault that America, as a state of hucksters and criminals, understands only power and respects only those who can rob it of money ... One day, the Russian paratrooper pushes the next plan in the throat of the American president .....
        1. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 18 May 2016 11: 01
          +1
          God forbid that the Russian paratrooper ever put a fat point in Washington over all the obscurantism in the world ...
          1. kuz363
            kuz363 18 May 2016 11: 23
            -5
            First, grow in population and power of the US Army!
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 18 May 2016 11: 52
              +8
              Quote: kuz363
              First, grow in population and power of the US Army!

              The power of the whole of Europe was on the side of Hitler ... and nothing, grew and explained to the adversary who is hu ... in Berlin.
              Quote: Alexey-74
              God forbid that the Russian paratrooper ever put a fat point in Washington over all the obscurantism in the world ...

              To do this, first to look into London would not hurt. hi
            2. The stranger
              The stranger 19 May 2016 06: 05
              +2
              So grow, generally pour in.
              Have you been there, even a tourist? Then the quality of the population should be clear to you. Hence the quality of the army.
              The barking of a pensioner under a hoarse bullon, under the guise of a presidential candidate, finally convinces me of the exceptional and omnipotence of the Negro Gum Chewing Army. Over the past 30 years, their Army has been thrown three times to conquer Absolute World Exclusivity. And what?
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 18 May 2016 10: 55
      +9
      What can I say? The Americans appointed Fanning, the "fighting fagot", as the chief of the ground forces. Now he will pester young soldiers and make eyes at them. What kind of combat training is there. laughing
      1. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 18 May 2016 11: 03
        +3
        now the fagot fighter divisions of the USA will be formed ... laughing
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 18 May 2016 14: 41
          +4
          Quote: siberalt
          The Americans appointed Fanning, the "fighting fagot", as the chief of the ground forces. Now he will pester young soldiers and make eyes at them.

          Quote: Alexey-74
          now the fagot fighter divisions of the USA will be formed ...

          However, there is something to be afraid of. Different seals and doggies - this is so, nonsense ... But if SUCH, tolerant, the whole division will collapse ....
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    4. gladcu2
      gladcu2 18 May 2016 14: 54
      +2
      Nik-one

      Nonsense. The people generally don’t know who this general is and never cares what this general says.

      In fact, the Rotting West is a Soviet brand. There was something to compare the USSR and sz. Since, in comparison with the USSR, the West really rotted morally and physically. Still, with such social guarantees, as it was in the USSR, you could joke as much as you like.

      But in modern Russia and the social security guarantee is less and integration into this sz, God forbid. So what else to talk about?
  2. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 18 May 2016 06: 32
    +9
    What can I say about this .... In the good old days, when I was little, I very clearly recall one slogan of the USSR: We will protect the interests of the USSR, anywhere in the world ... then Nata was afraid of us, so she might remember motto then? What do you think comrades?
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 18 May 2016 07: 54
      +5
      Quote: Shiva83483
      What can I say about this .... In the good old days, when I was little, I very clearly recall one slogan of the USSR: We will protect the interests of the USSR, anywhere in the world ... then Nata was afraid of us, so she might remember motto then? What do you think comrades?

      So he is already voiced at the highest level. Do you remember?
      VVP: "We have our own interests, as if someone didn't like it."
      and "If we need to get someone, we will get it anywhere"
      I do not pretend to verbatim, but somehow ...
      1. kuz363
        kuz363 18 May 2016 11: 24
        -6
        well, he also promised to wet the Chechens in the toilet. As a result, Russia pays tribute to them at the expense of the Russian people.
        1. Prometey
          Prometey 18 May 2016 20: 45
          +1
          Quote: kuz363
          well, he also promised to wet the Chechens in the toilet. As a result, Russia pays tribute to them at the expense of the Russian people.

          Not in support of Putin, but for the sake of truth. Firstly, not Chechens, but terrorists - several different things. Secondly, at all times of the enemy it was always more profitable to buy and force to serve oneself, rather than wage a struggle with it until it was completely destroyed. A donkey loaded with gold is cheaper and more effective than an entire army - even the ancients noticed. Thirdly, even the tsarist generals back in the 19th century argued that Chechnya needed to be conquered not by force of arms alone, but by education and trade. And they obviously were not dumber than you and me.
    2. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 18 May 2016 11: 04
      0
      Yes, we are only FOR .... !!! good
  3. Jarilo
    Jarilo 18 May 2016 06: 32
    +4
    Fighting a non-existent threat and ignoring an existing one can lead to death. Apparently something is wrong with the values.
    1. ivselim
      ivselim 18 May 2016 07: 05
      +1
      What values? repeat
      1. Jarilo
        Jarilo 18 May 2016 09: 27
        +2
        Their value is money, enrichment. This measured them all. Modern rulers fulfill the orders of their sponsors, and not of the people who, it seems, voted for them.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 May 2016 06: 36
    +6
    There is no invasion of NATO territory, but Russian activity is unfolding in nearby international air and sea space.

    It follows from this that the closer NATO is to the borders of Russia, the more claims will be against us. The "guys" went completely crazy with their impunity. Well, let's see how events will unfold and when finally the USA and their petty singers will drown in their insolence.
  5. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 18 May 2016 06: 43
    +6
    As one person said - "fear has big eyes. Let it be so, if only the brains do not become smaller" .... winked
    1. aba
      aba 18 May 2016 08: 19
      +2
      Let it be so, if only the brains do not become smaller "...

      No, they have not become smaller ... They simply continue to think in categories to increase the budget of the military.
  6. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 18 May 2016 06: 55
    +5
    Where to put 750 billion dollars that America spends on weapons, and how to justify them? Need an adversary. In addition to Russia and China, the rest for this role are too small. So nothing personal, just money.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 18 May 2016 07: 13
      +3
      Need an adversary. In addition to Russia and China, the rest for this role are too small.

      Well, why are you like this? For example, they are building their missile defense against Iran and North Korea. True, for some reason, in Romania and Poland. fool
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 18 May 2016 09: 25
      +7
      Quote: Viktor fm
      Where to put 750 billions of dollars that America spends on weapons, and how to justify them? Need an adversary. In addition to Russia and China, the rest for this role are too small. So nothing personal, just money.

      They tried to make terrorism seem like the main enemy - it didn’t.

      Firstly, the scale is not the same - you can’t blame Russia for terrorism, and you won’t gouge Iraq like that ... But there’s as much money for different Iraqi-Afghanistan as you won’t be given for Russia ...

      And secondly - with terrorists - there really needs to be something to do, fight with someone, really spend money somewhere .... And the very same terrorists can hurt ... And plastic boxes in America is coming - also not the best accompaniment to the pleasure of cutting the budget ...

      А it’s easier with the Russian threat - knock out the expansion of the budget, deploy troops and sit quietly for yourself when Russia decides to attack Europe ... laughing And in between - master a great budget ... Not a dozen successful American military careers have passed in anticipation ....
    3. gladcu2
      gladcu2 18 May 2016 15: 24
      0
      Viktor fm

      When a new safety engineer appears at the plant, some activity immediately begins. Since nobody sees a TB engineer working, it often needs to be dusted up.

      So here, every general wants attention and carries all kinds of nonsense.

      And the heading ZZ, like the yellow press, deals with gossip.
  7. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 18 May 2016 07: 14
    +3
    With such mania and phobias, it is time for Peter Pavel to look towards the window, as in 1949 - Forrestola.
  8. Yak-15
    Yak-15 18 May 2016 07: 21
    +7
    In the United States, for the first time, a civilian specialist, an open pederast, became the Minister of the Ground Forces. He was nominated for this post by Obama, and the Senate unanimously supported. He will be responsible for the personnel. Gone fun !!!!!
    1. Evdokim
      Evdokim 18 May 2016 09: 29
      +2
      The first rear-wheel motorized infantry brigade of the US Army, took up defense in the Pentagon. love drinks wassat
  9. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 18 May 2016 07: 27
    +1
    What else can you expect from these abnormal? There, in the USA, 3,14doras became Minister for Army Affairs! wassat
  10. cap
    cap 18 May 2016 07: 32
    +2
    “There are no incursions into NATO territory, but Russian activities are unfolding in the nearby international air and sea space. Such incidents are numerous and their number is constantly growing,” he said. “This is generally consistent with the nature of Russian military activity and applies, in particular, to long-range aviation. We have seen Russian strategic bombers even over the English Channel. These actions serve to demonstrate the power of Russia. "

    That’s whose cow would mumble, but yours would be silent.
    Your nature of activity surpasses our patience. Here look envy.
  11. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 18 May 2016 08: 08
    +5
    It seems that the NATO generals have played computer games .... And a complete separation from reality.
    This is not a computer game, but airplanes and radars in the Baltics that "reach" to Leningrad are made of metal. Under the guise of protection from aggressive Russians, NATO is equipping itself an advanced deployment echelon. This is a well-calculated strategy that began with the destruction of the Berlin Wall. First, they "sucked" into the whole VD, then the Baltic states. In Georgia, informal cooperation. NATO member Turkey is coaching Azerbaijan. They are training in Moldova. Montenegro will join in the very near future. It is indicative of its helplessness to stop this "skating rink" by political methods, the reaction of our Foreign Ministry to the acceptance of Montenegro. then they promised to stop all military-technical cooperation with the Montenegrins .... If we consider that this is the only thing Brussels is trying to achieve, it is clear that they will not cry about it. And Sweden and Finland in NATO in general turns the entire system of our security to the North -Zap upside down. And for this to happen officially, stupid NATO strategists are doing everything possible, just like them or in academies for military diploma courses, and unofficially, even yesterday they are ready to host contingents of troops and strike complexes.
    Particularly about Ukraine. One of the reasons why the Russian army did not enter Donbass is, I believe that because of the threat of NATO troops entering the rest of Ukraine at the call of the legitimate president (as a retaliatory measure). that Ukraine, hostile to Russia, in the status of a special partner is very valuable for NATO. And its "development" began with the arrival of the first American and British instructor.
    Therefore, I don’t think that they are stupid paranoid and should be treated; or all this masquerade only for the development of military budgets by Western corrupt officials and military monopolies. There is no direct military-political pressure and projection of force to the East. In a synthesis with the economic bloc and the propaganda department .All who do not obey and build into their well-functioning mechanism must be conquered or destroyed, according to their thousand-year-old wisdom and the traditions of our history.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 May 2016 11: 11
      +4
      At the same time, the ground forces of the main NATO countries are radically reduced.
      In the States, from 1 million to 500 thousand by 2018. In England - up to 150 thousand
      In Germany - as much. In Germany and England, 250 tanks in total.

      With such forces there is nothing to think about attacking actions. Even on defense
      not enough.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 18 May 2016 12: 17
        +2
        voyaka uh, against Russia even with a triple numerical superiority, it is dangerous to conduct military events because it can end in the death of cities and countries. It’s possible that I’m wrong, but the insidious strategists of TAM plan: to split the CSTO by political and economic methods and isolate the Russian Federation from other partners, destabilize the situation inside the country acting with our instruments of influence on our weak points (economy, social inequality, independent
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 18 May 2016 13: 38
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        At the same time, the ground forces of the main NATO countries are radically reduced.

        Maybe the calculation on the Kyrgyz Republic with nuclear warheads and the destruction of infrastructure in the first place, and even our infantry and tanks will be restrained to the last Ukrainian and Pole, well, the amers, in principle, do not give a damn about the losses of the EU countries if something happens. They will distract attention - they will fulfill part of their task of intercepting or first striking and draining.
      3. Prometey
        Prometey 18 May 2016 20: 46
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        With such forces there is nothing to think about attacking actions.

        And how much is preserved?
  12. Baloo
    Baloo 18 May 2016 08: 27
    +2
    NATO generals live in a fantasy world

    Which they themselves invent and impose on the world as reality. For them, the main thing is to have time to find a place in some company or military-industrial complex structure. For this, and all these war games, maneuvers and tryndezh.
  13. 31rus2
    31rus2 18 May 2016 08: 28
    +1
    Dear in one of the talk shows, (a talk show participant), our representative in NATO told how he met a housewife delegation at headquarters in Brussels?! From Finland, he was interested, it turns out this is how NATO representatives talk about bad Russians and about peaceful and good NATO, here you have the real world
  14. wandlitz
    wandlitz 18 May 2016 08: 37
    0
    I remember in my early childhood, as we once teased a neighbor's dog, sitting on a chain. Not afraid, the dog is attached. And the collar was unfastened.
    One of our teasers was bitten well in the back seat. 50 years have passed, and he remembers this lesson. Recently I recalled with the words "These are the fools we were ...".
    It would be necessary to reduce this NATO general to my comrade. Let him learn from someone else's experience.
  15. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 18 May 2016 09: 06
    +3
    The worst thing is the statement of our Foreign Ministry. Is this really our real idea - comprehensive improvement of the army ONLY? Then we have a lid. In local wars, we will cope, no doubt. But we are facing just a large-scale conflict, and in it the army (arbitrarily cool, trained and perfect) dies in a matter of days. I hope that the Kremlin understands that everyone needs to be improved.
    All, all people, all people. To teach, raise, train, motivate. How old. Like when we built this colossus - Russia. True, this approach contradicts the current state ideology and economic relations, introduced from above ... is there such an understanding? Oh, I hope ...
    1. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 18 May 2016 11: 55
      0
      Sorry, I pressed the wrong one. YOU +++
  16. uskrabut
    uskrabut 18 May 2016 09: 29
    0
    It all fits together. Well, what kind of funds you can beg for a fight against barmaley - none, you are already armed better than ISIS. But if the Russians scare their inhabitants, then very beautiful sums with a lot of zeros loom.
  17. silver_roman
    silver_roman 18 May 2016 09: 51
    +2
    "... in the face of the apparent inability of NATO to make a significant contribution to countering the real challenges of our time, such as terrorism, only the unwinding of the anti-Russian campaign allows the alliance to push its member states to increase military spending and at least somehow remain afloat."

    But NATO cannot fight with itself.
    While we will "call Taras Cyril" - nothing will change.
    It has long been recognized that NATO is the curator of all terrorists, NATO tactics are tactics to replenish the ranks of terrorists with the help of color revolutions.
    When they tell me about a dependent Europe, about the inability to independence, it becomes ridiculous. Especially when they bomb Libya, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan with their whole ball, when they sponsor a coup in my country (Ukraine).
    It seems that we are fighting for the heart of the "lady" (Europe) with a stubborn rival - the states. THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!
    This entire Western "world" is a bundle of evil, filled with cruelty against the whole world and even its citizens in order to achieve their bloody goals.
    Our task is not to depend on them as much as possible, to use them as much as possible, in no case to let their capital into our territory, to completely abandon their values ​​(although I myself am dependent on the bottom and admit it).
  18. Arkan
    Arkan 18 May 2016 11: 14
    0
    These tantrums, in other words, come from the fact that the West rested on the undeserved laurels of the winner. Russia did not lose the war, but only a battle. Now we are restoring our strength, and the West has irrevocably lost it in the struggle for gender equality, defending the rights of gays and other perverts, but not the families that form the basis of the nation. Destroying families and the way where the Man raised a Warrior from a small man, ready to defend his Fatherland with his life. Let hysteria.
  19. rotfuks
    rotfuks 18 May 2016 11: 46
    +1
    NATO generals do not live in a fantasy world. Half the world lives on Hollywood invented tales. Remember the famous story of the attack on the house of Benladen and its destruction. There, a whole helicopter with special forces fell on a concrete fence and burned to the ground. Moreover, not a single person was killed. Not otherwise, everyone was catapulted. And the helicopter story is not fiction of magazines. The US president himself controlled the progress of the operation online. Yeah ... Personally confirmed the myth of the invulnerability of special forces.
  20. Nix1986
    Nix1986 18 May 2016 12: 46
    +2
    Nato is outliving his last years, there are fewer and fewer arguments for his existence. Voices in the United States are already getting louder, that they are tired of pulling the main burden on the functioning of this structure, there are enough of their problems, the same applies to the main European participants, France and Germany do not have any sharp questions with Russia to cling to membership in this structure. Well, and besides, the example of an incident with a Su-24 shot down by Turkey shows that the trick of a single participant puts all its members in a very delicate position. In general, such odios as Latvia and Turkey are now mainly interested in this structure in order to cover their tricks with an umbrella of powerful allies. And to powerful allies, this membership brings far more problems than benefits.
  21. Polar Bear
    Polar Bear 18 May 2016 13: 02
    +1
    “From a military point of view, the threat in the east is much more significant, since Russian capabilities, including an extensive nuclear arsenal, potentially raise the question of its very existence. However, the intentions of (RF) are unclear. I do not think that Russia wants to enter into a confrontation using conventional and nuclear weapons with NATO ".

    Everything is not clear and understandable to them ... Besides, the Russians are to blame for everything.
  22. Siberian1965
    Siberian1965 18 May 2016 16: 19
    0
    Quote: siberalt
    What can I say? The Americans appointed Fanning, the "fighting fagot", as the chief of the ground forces. Now he will pester young soldiers and make eyes at them. What kind of combat training is there. laughing

    Here, the adversaries do everything in order that they would not turn their backs to them, but p ... it’s just habitual to show the ass. How will they fight?
  23. bravo-fab
    bravo-fab 18 May 2016 19: 12
    +1
    The main goal of NATO now in the near future is the expansion of NATO, the expansion is the opening of new markets for American military products, which many countries of the alliance themselves cannot produce. Blowing up the Russian threat is a way to prepare the layman that his country will spend more on the purchase of weapons from the United States. All Poles, Latvians, Georgians and Ukrainians there, and other Swedes with Finns will be convinced - yes, we need more armored personnel carriers of aircraft — in other words, targets for Russian strikes that cannot protect or hurt Russia, because the Russian nuclear weapons have.
    There is nothing to be afraid of or making a fuss of, the US military-industrial complex is making money on European suckers. That's when the number of American nuclear weapons in the EU will increase, then Russia, the Kremlin will understand that it’s time to worry, and so, let the suckers spend money on contracts they don’t need, they will live poorer, think more, and understand that the enemy is not Russia, and their politicians, the EU and NATO, are under American influence. Americanism will grow in Europe.
  24. kolexxx
    kolexxx 18 May 2016 19: 41
    0
    A book about the war between Russia and NATO can be written, but it will be extremely short. In a few lines: the exchange of nuclear strikes, nuclear winter, and the death of mankind.
  25. 1536
    1536 18 May 2016 19: 44
    0
    Generals of the German Wehrmacht under A. Hitler also dreamed of a campaign to the East and quick victories. They invented their entire war and counted it at headquarters, drawing it on a map. And at first their dreams came true in life. But when they were awakened, those who survived envied the dead.
    And today again, a Midsummer Night’s dream began in the West. Awakening will be terrible! But let them know that Russia will no longer allow itself to be deceived. And if everything happens again, we won’t leave Europe, we won’t withdraw the troops. Enough! Scientists! So let the local strategists think in this dream about this prospect, maybe then they won’t even want to wake up?
  26. erik cartman
    erik cartman 18 May 2016 22: 08
    +1
    Quote: kuz363
    First, grow in population and power of the US Army!

    Colleague, I propose to go further - to grow to the population of China. And please explain what the power of the US army is, and why we need such an army: homosexuals, lesbians, transgender people and many, many emigrants. You generally know that the concept of an army in the United States refers to Ground Forces, and the Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force? And all the main "work" is done by PMCs. Do you want to conquer someone? So Russia does not experience a shortage of territory. And the best attitude to the war of the Russian people (not only by nationality, but also by spirit) as such, is expressed by the words of the song "Do the Russians want wars?" I didn't want to offend you or hurt you in any way. Everyone has the right to their own opinion.
  27. Rorabek
    Rorabek 19 May 2016 16: 20
    0
    Quote: Prometey
    Quote: kuz363
    well, he also promised to wet the Chechens in the toilet. As a result, Russia pays tribute to them at the expense of the Russian people.

    Not in support of Putin, but for the sake of truth. Firstly, not Chechens, but terrorists - several different things. Secondly, at all times of the enemy it was always more profitable to buy and force to serve oneself, rather than wage a struggle with it until it was completely destroyed. A donkey loaded with gold is cheaper and more effective than an entire army - even the ancients noticed. Thirdly, even the tsarist generals back in the 19th century argued that Chechnya needed to be conquered not by force of arms alone, but by education and trade. And they obviously were not dumber than you and me.

    The fact is that ALL WARS have always been waged to coerce to YOUR advantage, and not to DESTROY ... if people in history do not fumble and the meaning of wars for the course of this story, then everything is clear ... take it out of context and name the pear an apple with the sofa is very simple laughing