About the Baltics tomorrow and economic hangover after Russian freebies

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Observing the constant rush from side to side of our Baltic neighbors, I wondered why everything looked so strange. It is illogical. On the one hand, there are constant cries about occupation "in those times" and a demonstration of outright Russophobia, on the other - regular visits to Russia of various representatives from economic structures of different levels.

It turns out that politics is politics, and business is business? Again, it is illogical. Generally, if you do not dig deep, then the logic is difficult to trace. But you can. And in actual fact, the logic is very easy and simple.

It all started not yesterday. I'll start with a little excursion in history. Namely, in the thirties of the last century, when the dark empire of the Soviet Union crushed the proud, but small Baltic states and made them their own republics.

Although about the state - I got excited, yes. The same Lithuania, if anyone is interested, until the time of the final hit in the USSR, changed independence to belonging and back as socks. Well, okay, it's not about that.

And talking about the fact that, as befits an empire, the USSR began to viciously oppress its new acquisitions. And as in these republics absolutely there was nothing from minerals, and there was really nothing to export, then industrialization began. And dozens of industrial facilities were built in the Baltic territories.

Built and launched. And the territories that from time immemorial were backyards and vegetable gardens of other empires, suddenly transformed and began to develop. Developed ...

This was particularly colorful and was presented after the republic once again became independent. That is, after the 1991 of the year. But we will return to the issue of independence a little bit later; an interesting aspect will arise here.

It seems to be yes, GDP per capita from 1993 to 2008. In the Baltics, it grew by as much as 3,6. If in dollars per capita, then in Latvia 18 thousand, in Lithuania 19,5 thousand, in Estonia 22 thousand.

And in Russia it grew only 2 times and made 21,6 thousands of the same American dollars.

It seems that everything is logical and everything converges. "Let loose" states began an independent path of development and demonstration of unprecedented economic growth.

However, let's take a closer look, and due to what the Balts have developed so successfully and raised this very GDP. It is clear that not at the expense of sprats and its powerful agriculture and industry. Own production did not become the strength of the Balts, so that they did not talk about it. Everything looked more than modest, in tons, in rubles or dollars.

And the recent counter-sanctions from Russia hit very hard on this very GDP. Noise and screams from Europe remember everything? Polish apples, Moldovan plums, Belgian pears and so on? Balts were somehow not heard against the general background, although they supplied Russia from 60 to 80 with percent of their agricultural products.

In fact, the Balts, as in the proverb about "A and B", were sitting on the pipe. Not really, of course, on the pipe, but it seems.

The lion's share of the Baltic states' profits now was made up of money received from Russia. That is, in fact, we kept and for the time being we continue to support those who spit diligently in us. Paradox, right?

And everything is simple. Nobody took the ports from the Balts. Luxurious, newly built after the war ports on the Baltic. Through which the turnover was about 100 million tons, for the transshipment of which Russia paid up to 1 billion dollars a year. Billion a little? Maybe.

Watching by whose standards. And by the standards of the Baltic States - quite. Almost 4,5% of the total GDP of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia taken together for the 1998 year. Then the economy began to grow and here, after the 2000 year. Naturally, Russia's exports also grew, and with it the volume of transshipment in the Baltic ports increased.

According to the results of 2014, this indicator reached 144,8 mln. Tons, including:
Riga - 41,1 mln.
Klaipeda - 36,4 mln.
Tallinn - 28,3 mt
Ventspils - 26,2 mt

And where is the sprats and milk, shock to fill the budgets of the Baltic countries?

By the way, about the pipe. There is a pipe. And Latvia is sitting on it. A huge and modern by the standards terminal in Ventspils. One of two in the USSR, where in addition to oil it was possible to transport, for example, ammonia. Very expensive raw materials, by the way. The second terminal was in Odessa ...

Ventspils pipe allowed pumping over 30 mln. Tons of oil per year. Transshipment cost about $ 0,7 per barrel, and barrels per ton 7,33. Applying the terrible weapon calculator, we get the number in 154 million dollars. And then by the most modest estimates.

By 2009, the total volume of overseas supplies of Russian oil reached 246 million tons, of which 140 million passed through the Baltic ports a year. These are other layouts. This is 700 million dollars. It is weighty, considering that Latvia actually incurred no special expenses on construction. A solid freebie and cash flow from the "occupiers."

It is in other countries, poorer, these figures do not know. And then to Lavrov already lined up with a request for such an occupation. Or to Putin.

Good, pipe. But since there is a port, it means that there is a transshipment of sea containers. Even today, when St. Petersburg, Kaliningrad and Ust-Luga joined the active work, the share of Latvia (Riga, Liepaja, Ventspils) accounts for 7,1% of our container turnover (392,7 thousands of pieces), Lithuania (Klaipeda) - 6,5% (359,4 thousands pieces), Estonia (Tallinn) - 3,8% (208,8 thousands of pieces).

For transshipment of one container take from 180 to 230 US dollars, which for three port owners per year is more than 200 million dollars a year.

But besides oil, coal and containers, the Baltic Sea Russia carries mineral fertilizers, timber, metals. Prior to 2004, about 90% of all Russian sea exports passed through the Baltics, providing countries with at least 18 – 19% of their total GDP. Rail transit should also be added here. He also costs money. For example, in the 2006 year, only one Estonia took on average 32 trains from Russia per day, which only the Tallinn port brought about $ 117 million dollars annually.

Well settled, right?

And after that, there are still some constant cries about the "Soviet occupation". Wow occupation, the legacy of which gives 30% of the very GDP, which are so boiled in the Baltic States. And constantly talk about some of Russia's debts to the Baltic countries ... Who should owe whom?

Do not forget about the workplaces that Russia provided them in the ports, railway junctions and so on.

Now smoothly turn to the main thesis. And it sounds like this:

Freebie can not be eternal!

All the more frankly anti-Russian.

Today we are witnessing what happened to one country whose rulers believed that, sitting on a pipe to Europe, they could dictate terms. The result is obvious. The pipe will be in another place, and Europe no longer shines the country, because without a pipe it is of no value to itself today for Europe. Alas, but a fact.

It all started not yesterday. Although how to look. I think that the starting point for the end of the Baltic monopolies was 15 June 2000, when the Ministry of Transport of the Russian Federation embarked on a project to build a port in Ust-Luga.

Although it is more correct to speak about the whole program that provided for the priority development of all Russian ports on the Baltic. Thanks to her, Ust-Luga's freight turnover increased from 0,8 mln. Tons in 2004 to 10,3 mln. Tons in 2009 and 87,9 mln. Tons in 2015.

And according to the results of 2014, the Russian ports have already provided 35,9% of the total container turnover in the Baltic, and this figure will only increase.

The use of its infrastructure without customs clearance and foreign exchange operations is more profitable for Russian exporters. And the key word here is your own.

Yes, the legacy of the Soviet Union is to some extent given to us heavily, especially in such matters as the transportation of cargo through the territories of the former Soviet republics. But the transition process has been launched, and, I am sure, in the end, the transport “window to the world” will become Russian on 100%.

This also applies to the fact that some forces in our country indiscriminately talk at all angles about a "gas station country" in which nothing is built except tanks. It turns out being built. And it is built in such a way that the need for Baltic transit falls more and more every day. We can do it ourselves.

Interaction with the Baltic States in transport matters is steadily falling. For rail transport - five times. By container - at four. According to the volume of general cargo - in three. In the 2015 year alone, the transportation of oil and petroleum products through the ports of the Baltic countries fell by 20,9%, hard coal - by 36%, and even mineral fertilizers - by 3,4%. Yes, for mineral fertilizers, the Balts still maintain their positions. While saving ...

And if we take the figures of open sources for the first quarter of 2016 of the year ... Regarding the decrease in turnover in the Baltic ports, there is generally a zrada. Or peremoga, depending on which side to look.

Riga - decrease by 13,8%. Tallinn - a decrease of 16,3%.

Against the background of this fall in commodity circulation, the frequent visits of representatives of the Baltic economy sector become clear.

They came to their senses ... You can't say otherwise.

The first, oddly enough, figured out in Estonia. They quickly calculated that by the end of the current year about 6 thousand people might be out of work in the Port of Tallinn. And even before 1,2, thousands will have to be cut by rail, of which at least 500 people will be reduced in the next 2 − 3 of the month. In general, in today's realities, the total unprofitability of the Baltic railways as a whole is no longer in doubt. It is clear that passenger transportation will never compensate for the money that “left” along Russian roads to Russian ports.

Finished playing, and congratulations. Then what?

And then sadness and longing in the style of Ukraine. You shouldn’t say it again, but I’ll say: that Ukraine, that the Baltics, all these 20 years of independence lived solely because of Russia's great patience. And patience suddenly came to an end.

And it turned out that we will live without a Ukrainian pipe, and without Lithuanian, Latvian and Estonian ports. Harder, of course, but the process is running. Yes, the situation was such that our side was forced to endure rudeness in response to persuasion and exhortations in the style of "Guys, let's live together!"

Now we will observe, what's next, how will the development process of the mighty economies of the Baltic countries proceed, without support from Russia.

Of course, this is not tomorrow or the day after. I think that in the course of 4-5 years, when the trade turnover between Russia and the Baltic states will approach the level of zero, it will be possible to begin to see the transformations of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia into their historical state. Namely, in the poor, deaf and, most offensive, far-off farms. Not needed by anyone: neither Russia, nor the USA, nor Europe.

And the fact that we will observe it for some reason does not arise. And, by the way, NATO troops, most likely, will leave the Baltic states. Themselves. For there is no sense in keeping them there. Protecting rusting rails and harbor cranes from Russia is a very expensive and dubious pleasure. And emptying the unwanted territory, whose inhabitants will turn the nuts or something else in Europe.

Hangover from the end of the Russian freebies will be heavy.
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  1. +79
    17 May 2016 06: 42
    Hard. But fair. And I had no idea that these Baltic mongrels are so directly choking on their Russophobia? Themselves diligently sawed off the branch on which they sat. Having heard the "crackle", they began to saw it even harder ...
    1. -37
      17 May 2016 08: 06
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      They themselves carefully sawed bitches ...

      ... who are you talking about?
      1. +16
        17 May 2016 22: 00
        about Baltic female politicians, if you wish ... they have rare ones ...
    2. +10
      17 May 2016 08: 27
      After all, it must be borne in mind that in the West, the most talented and brainy young people are bursting into business, money is being pinched. But the government and politics have to deal with hitropopym, but not so smart.
      1. +16
        17 May 2016 14: 31
        Quote: baudolino
        After all, it must be borne in mind that in the West, the most talented and brainy young people are bursting into business, money is being pinched. But the government and politics have to deal with hitropopym, but not so smart.

        What a simplified, to put it mildly, vision of realities. The most profitable and highly profitable business today is politics. And this is not only in Russia, it is everywhere - in Europe, and in Asia, and in America. Those who write the rules of the game are always in the greatest profits, and today politicians have this right and opportunity. Businessmen are fighting more and more with trade unions, anti-monopolists and other riddlers who do not want to engage in the real economy.
        1. +7
          17 May 2016 18: 35
          In Riga, shopping centers are being built on the territories of former factories. And what will people buy there if there is no money for these purchases? After all, there are no more factory jobs. This is strange and very stupid.
          1. aba
            +10
            18 May 2016 01: 35
            In Riga, shopping centers are being built on the territories of former factories.

            Do you think that in Moscow it’s different ?! Everything is the same: ZIL, Moscow Watch Factory, Moscow Mirror Factory, confectionery factories are removed from the center ... And the list can be endlessly listed: where there was production, now there are shopping and business centers, luxury housing, etc.
            1. 0
              20 May 2016 22: 42
              Quote: aba
              Everything is the same: ZIL, Moscow Watch Factory, Moscow Mirror Factory, confectionery factories removed from the center ...


              Your accent is a bit incorrect, the program for removing industrial enterprises from the city limits was introduced under Luzhkov, in 2004 personally packed the equipment at the Electrozavod and sent it to another region, but the fact that plants were picked up in the era of privatization is true ...
          2. +5
            18 May 2016 18: 05
            In the mound, the factory of wheeled tractors, which also produced armored personnel carriers, was liquidated.
          3. -1
            19 May 2016 17: 56
            money laundering it! build and steal right away!)
        2. +9
          17 May 2016 19: 01
          Besides, politics is a business you can jump out of without being responsible for the consequences. This business collects a lot of scoundrels, temporary workers, especially in all troubled times. Revolutions are made by romantics or mercenaries, and scoundrels use their fruits. "... it is everywhere - in Europe, Asia and America ...". And it cannot be otherwise in the Lilliputian countries.
          As soon as everything collapses, all today's leaders of these countries will disappear with the stolen goods, and even grass will not grow there.
          So you need to treat them like that. Like scoundrels.
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        4. +7
          17 May 2016 20: 01
          Respect to Roman for the above figures. You can still say a lot, including about the Euro-nipple, which ended the term. In general, it is difficult to imagine what they will be doing there. The same amber is also Kaliningrad, they destroyed the only nuclear power plant. laughing
          1. +4
            18 May 2016 20: 29
            and the author forgot about the exported color and chermet - thanks to the export of the Baltic states from Russia to 90, even the first places in the world in the export of scrap metal took ...
          2. +4
            19 May 2016 20: 13
            Quote: siberalt
            In general, it is difficult to imagine what they will be doing there.

            25 years ago, theirs Brazauskas said: "If we don't have Russian oil tomorrow, we will have American bases the day after tomorrow." What is no occupation - for handouts to sell land under the bases of the invaders? The Baltic States do not get used ...

            It’s interesting in this connection that the fact that US bases appear there was clear as far back as 25 years ago. Why 25 years they were paid for all the nasty things that they did? Wasn’t it easier to chop them off 25 years ago? Died - so died ...

            By the way, this also applies to Ukraine and the rest ... And then the hooters scream that we do not know how to work, that their migrant workers in Russia only work, that we only live for Christ for the sake of the pipe through Ukraine ... Drive the guest workers out and cut off the pipe. Died - so died ... Uzbek Kyrgyz flirting with NATO, they swear on our eternal friendship, orange revolutions suit us ... One step towards NATO - guest workers by caravans, on foot, through Kazakhstan, home! Died - so died ... Someone drove minibuses without Uzbeks and swept the streets, until they ran to us from hunger!
            1. +2
              19 May 2016 20: 52
              I AGREE and let them now at home tear the farts to the guardians for the desecration. And then they jump alone and they all slurp. there will be something to say to the kids for a hassle ...
              1. +4
                19 May 2016 21: 17
                Quote: Suhow
                I AGREE and let them now tear at home the farts to the guardians of the short-lived. And then they will jump alone and everyone will slurp ..

                I still thought during the Maidan and immediately after it - well, how many are there on the Maidan? 10-50-100 thousand? And how many guest workers are there from Nezalezhnaya in Russia? Yes, with families, but with those whom they fed at home with translations. How will all the expelled migrant workers come to Kuev, a million and a half, but as Porosenko will say - "You cut off Russia - so you feed us" ... Only that Porosenko was seen ...

                And then we have skakushki standing in the market near the house, working as saleswomen for Mammads, selling potatoes, drinking occupational beer and scolding Putin. And after work, 100 bucks run across the road to send relatives home (by the way, 2 lard of dollars annually - 11% of Ukrainian GDP) - they have nothing to eat there ... Such a situation, as in the article, only in miniature ...
        5. +1
          18 May 2016 09: 04
          in Omsk, on the flight territory, 25 percent remained since the times of the ussr
        6. +12
          18 May 2016 10: 40
          The most profitable is not politics, but the financial sector. Politicians do what they are paid to do. The economy is now secondary. By the way, and no one will remove the military bases, the author is disingenuous. NATO members did not come there to guard the lousy Balts, but to shove missiles under our "belly". Let all the local natives die, and the Anglo-Saxons can only be kicked out, otherwise, this abomination will not go away from anywhere.
        7. +3
          18 May 2016 14: 57
          Especially touched about
          ... NATO troops are likely to leave the Baltic states. Themselves. For there will be no sense in keeping them there. To protect rusting rails and port cranes from Russia is an expensive and more than dubious pleasure ..

          With what fright will they leave? They need footholds around Russia, and as long as the economic situation based on the "green presidents" allows, they will be close to our borders.
          So the Baltic states can and will give oak, but America will be there while dictating the rules in the global economy (China is breathing in the back)!
          Bullshit analytics!
    3. +19
      17 May 2016 14: 56
      One gets the impression that thanks to the clever policy after 1991, the Russian Federation was simply "milked" through the government in Moscow, and now the task has been set to get a "legal" indemnity. And this despite the fact that NATO received all these resources and infrastructure from Berlin to Leningrad free of charge and in fairly good condition, requiring a small cosmetic repair. Yes, and the Ukrainian SSR to boot. Isn't it time to move the capital of the Russian Federation from Omsk?
      1. -19
        17 May 2016 15: 54
        Yes, and in Russia itself this situation is still. All national republics are pennilessly milked by Russian regions.
        1. +37
          17 May 2016 21: 14
          Heh, tell us here in Yakutia. From here the entire periodic table is pumped out to you, and the local population survives (you can't put it another way) without household gas, without normal roads, and even (I, of course, wildly apologize for such a prose), it is comfortable in minus 60 on the street. And at the same time he is silent and endures. Do not wake the beast with your stupid posts, otherwise you will get more than one Chechnya on the territory of Russia ... You need to think about what you write. Russia is a multinational state, and your definition of national subjects by the expression "all sorts" sounds offensive to say the least. I believe that the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of our country will agree with me on this issue. Russia is strong precisely in its regions, or rather in the myriad resources that it extracts in these regions. "The wealth of Russia in Siberia will grow" - that is how it is, and it is a pity that some individuals like you there beyond the Urals do not understand this ...
          You, dear, either froze stupidity, or you deliberately try to undermine the situation in the country with such sayings. In any case, this is bad and only worthy of blame ...
          1. 0
            17 May 2016 22: 00
            Does Yakutia have such a flag?
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            2. 0
              19 May 2016 17: 34
              Here it is. And what?
        2. +11
          17 May 2016 22: 27
          you are my friend durak or an enemy of the people of the Russian Federation.
          Yes, we have subsidized regions in which nothing is mined or produced, but these regions are important for the Russian Federation from a geopolitical and military point of view, thanks to such "national republics" other regions of the Russian Federation can work peacefully and calmly without being distracted by all kinds of things. " gemoroichiki "from neighbors.
          Yes, we have subsidized regions and republics from which resources are siphoned off, but these resources without pipelines, processing plants, etc. from the "European part of the Russian Federation" are absolutely useless and unnecessary.
          The Russian Federation is strong precisely because of the unity of the people, and all nationalities separated from the Russian Federation (USSR) are quietly and peacefully dying and degrading, the Baltic states and Ukrainians are a vivid example ...
        3. +3
          17 May 2016 23: 43
          Are you for continuing the division of the country? I am against it, and precisely because of the collapse of the USSR at the expense of the Russian Federation, the US government maintained its subsidized vassals, which had long lost the attributes of states.
          Most likely, there are no more "national" states, so it is necessary to create a large geopolitical coalition against the North American cluster of TNCs. But for this it is necessary to solve the problem of the oligarchy, which on behalf of the IMF and the Fed manages the economy.
      2. +1
        18 May 2016 20: 26
        Is it time to move the capital ...
        It is high time. In Omsk, great!
        1. +1
          19 May 2016 04: 32
          Novosibirsk is the best option. Including missile defense in Europe. laughing
    4. +11
      17 May 2016 16: 03
      Even at banquets, the Baltic delegations prefer not to sit nearby.
      And all the industrial giants - high-tech enterprises of radio electronics, transport engineering, light industry - were destroyed.
      Only Riga Balsam and Van Bath Tallinn liqueur remained.
      They will drink it with grief, and eat horseradish with their sprats.
      By the way, there were three movie studios, several cool theaters, did they stay?
      Or also - ...
      1. +23
        17 May 2016 18: 58
        So this is exactly what they accuse us of - they built giant, useless enterprises in a quiet and comfortable agricultural country in Latvia, flood meadows plowed up hydroelectric power plants, brought so much grief to them, so much grief ... And guess - why? Do not know. And all so that drunken St. Petersburg men could be fused from St. Petersburg to wonderful and magical Latvia (so that there was something to do). But Latvia didn’t ask for anything.
        This is the reasoning of a person with a higher education (still Soviet) 3 years ago.
      2. +7
        17 May 2016 19: 33
        The brand "Riga Balsam" was bought by a Kaliningrad company, either SPI RVVK, or Victoria, for debts. So drink a domestic drink to your health. smile
      3. +2
        18 May 2016 08: 45
        Quote: RoTTor
        Even at banquets, the Baltic delegations prefer not to sit nearby.
        And all the industrial giants - high-tech enterprises of radio electronics, transport engineering, light industry - were destroyed.
        Only Riga Balsam and Van Bath Tallinn liqueur remained.
        They will drink it with grief, and eat horseradish with their sprats.
        By the way, there were three movie studios, several cool theaters, did they stay?
        Or also - ...


        From the studios are just a bit of a mistake, consider that there isn’t at all (there are 1-2 films in several years in Latvia, and even those are d ... o). Theaters remained, only they became far from cool. Some productions do not cause anything except the gag reflex.
    5. +6
      17 May 2016 20: 24
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But fair.

      Yes, right.
      But the Baltic mongrel is just a special case.
      We need reliance on as much as possible of all our own.
      Own ports, own mechanical engineering and electronics.
      Moreover, they are focused, first of all, on their own, reasonably protected, domestic market, and not on some WTO there.
      We simply will not be allowed to go there in full.
      The best example is the Volkswagen scandal in the USA.
      There will be a capacious domestic market, good demand within the state, and the export of high-tech products will also increase.
      1. aba
        +1
        18 May 2016 01: 40
        The best example is the Volkswagen scandal in the USA.
        This is just an example of how a free trade agreement is signed between the European Union and the United States.
        So to speak, a good example for other partners - do not rock the boat, otherwise you will see what happens.
    6. +4
      18 May 2016 02: 17
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And it was not even clear to me that these Baltic mongrels are so directly choked by their Russophobia?

      ------------------------------
      I watched an interview in the mayor of Ventspils one year ago, he was against Russophobia and, in general, these anti-Russian quacks. He’s a man of course ambiguous, but he knows that a city without Russia is a land in the sense of Russian transit. The press in the Baltic States is Swedish and Finnish, and industrial facilities too. There is now a Scandinavian occupation. In general, something like this.
  2. +78
    17 May 2016 06: 50
    I agree with the author absolutely and many times ... It is a pity that only huge folk remedies are injected into the economy of sprats. But in today's realities it is impossible to be cosmopolitan. Only the most severe whip and cardboard smile will bring these mongrels to kennels and make them howl at the moon.
    With great joy, having visited Svetlogorsk - the Kaliningrad Region, he examined the KKZ Amber Hall where the voting KiViN from KVN now passes. The labuses were played out, while Jurmala. Sell ​​to each other for candy wrappers .....
    1. +8
      18 May 2016 08: 52
      The most interesting thing in this story is that from 2018 the European freebie will also end, because the co-financing program from European equalization funds is being discontinued. By the way, the author did not cover this aspect at all, and after all, the proceeds from these funds make up a very significant part of the GDP of the Baltic countries.
      And in Jurmala, Khokhlyatsk shows are now staged.
    2. +1
      24 May 2016 13: 32
      "It is a pity only for the huge folk funds that have been thrown into the economy of sprotolabuses."

      And who is stopping you from raising your financial documents - and figuring out who exactly drove the people's money to the West through the Baltic states? Hint: The people of the Baltic countries received nothing from these "infusions into the republics". The same cans of birch sap in stores, and the same empty shelves as in Russia. I saw it myself in 91.

      So as they say less yapping at the Baltic states and often look in the mirror :) you can minus hi
  3. +23
    17 May 2016 06: 56
    Parshev's ideas work. And so - what to say. Own ports are needed. And not just declare import substitution.
    1. 0
      17 May 2016 21: 27
      Which one? A loop? Or did he generate something new?
  4. +50
    17 May 2016 07: 02
    Well, I don’t feel sorry for their exes, well, not a bit ... they didn’t want to be worse for “bad”, for “good” ... And as one character from Treasure Island used to say: whoever survives will envy the dead ... so you and necessary, flawed. Ugh on you three times ...
  5. +3
    17 May 2016 07: 05
    The world is strange - you have to pay for everything. They will pay for it, or they will build LNG terminals and sell gas to Europe.
  6. +37
    17 May 2016 07: 08
    Roman, I can disappoint you, but even after the non-Tigers have become primitive, the NATO forces will not leave there. There has not yet been a case when someone from this office was released (we won’t talk about France, there were completely different people in power, and they didn’t leave the political component of the bloc). And the location of troops and bases close to the borders of Russia is worth a lot, even if there is a desert there, even better — there are less worries with Aboriginal people. This is too weighty an argument in disputes with Russia to simply abandon what has been achieved for at least 30 years — missiles in less than ten minutes of approach to Moscow and St. Petersburg. For cruise missiles, more time, but this is offset by the amount.
    1. Who
      +4
      17 May 2016 10: 59
      And let them not leave. Iskander-M will not even let them scratch
    2. +7
      17 May 2016 15: 59
      And the location of troops and bases close to the borders of Russia is worth a lot


      Here, after all, how to see which side. With their springboard, and with ours - a natural boiler. Spratlandia is shot through by Iskanders and attack aircraft, aviation is constrained by the impact of long-range air defense systems. If we break through our air defense, it is better from the territory of Poland and Finland. IMHO, the fact that the noses are kept there is comparable to our Syrian group. Which by its very presence discourages Amers and Jews from the desire to solve the Assad problem. And in the event of war, those that others are suicide bombers.
    3. 0
      19 May 2016 05: 42
      Quote: inkass_98
      And the location of troops and bases close to the borders of Russia is worth a lot

      I agree, they won’t leave. The reason also in Kaliningrad is that maintaining tension in communications in this enclave is only beneficial for them.
  7. +9
    17 May 2016 07: 14
    Not a single division of our illustrious Airborne Forces will do in a minute as much as the signature of the President of Russia under a document can do for the good of our country. (By the way, after signing, the divisions of our illustrious Airborne Forces are unlikely to have enough sleep ...!)
  8. +149
    17 May 2016 07: 14
    Namely, the poor, deaf and, most offensively, useless backyard farms. Not needed by anyone: neither Russia, nor the USA, nor Europe.
    1. Who
      +9
      17 May 2016 11: 00
      Elegantly said! Yours
    2. +3
      17 May 2016 17: 21
      Who wants to take the Baltic states back and why? What is the practical meaning?
      1. +2
        17 May 2016 17: 54
        And Europe united because of insanity, do you think?
        The meaning is big - economic, and there are still a lot of Russians there, although the attitude of the leading `` comrades '' to Russia should change, without this main condition it is simply stupidity and stupidity to decide about something with the Balts.
        Even if the idea of ​​uniting with them arises, it is necessary to immediately register all the risks for the future, so that again not to get up in a `` fatal '' pose in front of them, as under the scum Yeltsin during the collapse of the USSR.
        1. +7
          18 May 2016 05: 34
          Vasiliev Yu
          Even if the idea of ​​combining with them arises, we must immediately register all the risks for the future,

          So it was spelled out
          Question: What kind of vegetable did the "great perestroika" release the same Lithuania in modern territories, and not in those with which it was "occupied"? ("What you were - so you stayed" - as in the song) - there would be a normal road to Kaliningrad
      2. 0
        18 May 2016 18: 32
        Meaning, Territory and Russian population.
    3. +1
      18 May 2016 10: 37
      Damn well spotted!
  9. +9
    17 May 2016 07: 24
    What kind of independence and freedom are the Balts talking about if they do not think about their interests, but acting on the orders of the West and the USA.
  10. +21
    17 May 2016 07: 27
    Nato will not leave! The Alliance does not protect countries, but strategic directions.
    If Finland and Sweden can be pulled into the block, then Russia’s access to the Baltic will be blocked. What, in fact, the Americans are striving for.
    The abandonment of the Baltic Limitrophs by the alliance is a military-political nonsense, because in this case, the seizure of a bridgehead by Russia is very likely, and the West cannot allow this.
    1. +3
      17 May 2016 20: 30
      And now the exit to Batika is so open for us ... on all four sides, and even to the new South Okean, we have a direct carpet lined from the Baltic ???!
  11. +12
    17 May 2016 07: 56
    these are we occupiers! Thank you for the article!
  12. +26
    17 May 2016 08: 07
    Lord, why is there anything incomprehensible here: all the state officials of the Baltic states receive their salaries from Brussels, since they are now not state officials of independent states, but state officials of the European Union, and therefore they (like everyone else in other European countries) a priori cannot have "their own" opinion and "their" policy. Brussels has long determined that the main purpose of these unfinished Baltic states is an "advanced outpost" of an anti-Russian orientation, "rhetoric", an "annoying factor" that should constantly remind Russia of its "inferiority" in historical, moral and political terms, on the one hand, and on the other hand, to constantly remind the Europeans of the Russian "threat", "expansion", etc. That is, their role is convenient "fools" and provocateurs who will carry out, without hesitation, any order from Brussels aimed at economic and political "containment" of Russia as a resurgent center of competition, "power" and political influence. And, as for the rest of the people of the Baltic states, this is all according to the so-called "division plan" when joining the European Union: sovereignty is transferred to Brussels, officials receive salaries and other "nishtyaks" from Brussels, and the people get free travel to the "Schengen" and " spinning "as it can. So the people are "spinning" getting their own food and livelihood wherever they can - Brussels does not "feed" it, unlike officials.
  13. +12
    17 May 2016 08: 09
    Explanatory article! Do not spit in the well ...
  14. +11
    17 May 2016 08: 21
    Klaipeda is still alive only at the expense of father. Belarusian exports, especially of mineral fertilizers, go through it.

    Now, if he)))
    1. +18
      17 May 2016 12: 15
      About ... twenty years ago, Fatherland AHL came to Kaliningrad with great fanfare, beat himself in the chest and claimed that Belarusian potash salt would be exported only through Kaliningrad. One of our ports even believed and, having invested millions, built a terminal ... Now it is used as a platform for containers. And the AHL, returning home, quietly signed the papers and fertilizers went through Klaipeda. The Lithuanians play on the cost of railway transportation, they promised him less, and he flourished as a true director of a state farm. Here is such support from an ally.
      1. +9
        17 May 2016 12: 56
        But father is still a bug
      2. +7
        17 May 2016 15: 27
        Quote: Igor V
        promised him less, and he flourished, as the true director of the state farm.

        The fact of the matter is that the director of the state farm, as you correctly put it. Spins, spins like a bug, looking for where better. Only by winning situationally in individual actions will he lose all allies sooner or later.
        Although I like in Belarus. Calmly. One of the advantages of the Old Man is the law enforcement system.
        1. +1
          17 May 2016 17: 14
          The cemetery is still calm ...
          1. +9
            17 May 2016 18: 43
            Quote: Sasha_Sar
            The cemetery is still calm ...

            Well, compared ... I admit, after arriving from St. Petersburg in Belarus for the first time, in 2001, I was surprised that it was much calmer there. Including, because of the assigned law enforcement service. Do we often see an outfit in the center at night? And they - every 10 minutes pass. Not to mention the fact that there are no migrants and other semi-criminal personalities who have come to work. And it was much cleaner. Every 50 m, a cheap urn hangs on a pillar, urns were stolen from us at that time, and they were hung from them. Pedestrian crossings are mostly unregulated, for me the shock was that drivers let me in there, as if on command. And the people there are calmer than ours (I'm talking about Peter, at least). By the way, driving is much stricter there. They say that even for excess of 10 km per hour for the ass take. I can’t confirm the last one, I didn’t get it))
            Best regards, hi
            1. 0
              18 May 2016 06: 01
              and why do you think there are no migrants?
            2. 0
              18 May 2016 09: 03
              Quote: Mikado
              Quote: Sasha_Sar
              The cemetery is still calm ...

              Well, compared ... I admit, after arriving from St. Petersburg in Belarus for the first time, in 2001, I was surprised that it was much calmer there. Including, because of the assigned law enforcement service. Do we often see an outfit in the center at night? And they - every 10 minutes pass. Not to mention the fact that there are no migrants and other semi-criminal personalities who have come to work. And it was much cleaner. Every 50 m, a cheap urn hangs on a pillar, urns were stolen from us at that time, and they were hung from them. Pedestrian crossings are mostly unregulated, for me the shock was that drivers let me in there, as if on command. And the people there are calmer than ours (I'm talking about Peter, at least). By the way, driving is much stricter there. They say that even for excess of 10 km per hour for the ass take. I can’t confirm the last one, I didn’t get it))
              Best regards, hi


              Where were you in Minsk? In Minsk this is indeed so, but in cities and a smaller town the situation is far from that, although it is quite quiet there. The whole question is how long this will last.
              1. +2
                18 May 2016 10: 24
                [/ quote = spravochnik]
                Quote: Mikado
                Quote: Sasha_Sar
                The cemetery is still calm ...

                Where were you in Minsk? In Minsk this is indeed so, but in cities and a smaller town the situation is far from that, although it is quite quiet there. The whole question is how long this will last.

                I was in Minsk once, mainly in Mogilev. In the 14th year I went to Naroch. I really liked the attitude of people. Indeed, the ride is nice. God grant that nothing changes.
            3. 0
              18 May 2016 20: 42
              "they take an excess of 10 km per hour for the backside" - and it is very painful - the fines are brutal (especially the drunkenness is double solid and the excess is large - in my opinion, they even deprive the rights at all, but I'm not sure, at least I understood), they work with might and main hidden cameras on the roads, cops even outwardly command respect - such strong, tall, pumped-up guys - ours, compared to them, sometimes even touch: either 150cm tall or weighing 150kg. And these are like grown on a specially farm ...
      3. +2
        17 May 2016 17: 24
        And just imagine that Belarus is not Russia and can conduct its own policy. Not?
        1. +1
          17 May 2016 19: 40
          The fact of the matter is that there is no politics, one selfish interest.
        2. aba
          0
          18 May 2016 01: 48
          And just imagine that Belarus is not Russia and can conduct its own policy. Not?

          Yes, yes! MAZs are supplied for the needs of the ATO to Ruin ... And not only
  15. +31
    17 May 2016 08: 34
    With what regret I now remember the expenditures of my ministry and human resources (I was the head of the state administration of one of the defense ministers) on the creation in these three republics of industrial, scientific institutions, airfields and airports, training grounds, residential towns and separate houses for the civilian population, kindergartens and pioneer camps. Everything went to dust thanks to Gorbachev and the "drunkard of all Russia". I have the honor.
    1. +2
      17 May 2016 19: 29
      Quote: Drop
      Everything went to dust thanks to Gorbachev and the "drunkard of all Russia".

      In fairness, it's not just them. These "Europeans" began to imagine themselves for good reason long before perestroika.
  16. Erg
    +25
    17 May 2016 08: 37
    When the labeled one, in collusion with the barmaley, dissolved the Union, the republics left without debts. Everything was piled on Rassiyushka ... Now these "states" have huge debts. Only in Ukraine - more than 120 lard with greens. That's all their "independence".
    1. +6
      17 May 2016 11: 24
      Now these "states" have huge debts.

      Plus the desire to grab something else for free. They then ask forgiveness of their debts, that those in power forgive the interesting. They are starting to try to tear anything from Russian property abroad (incorrectly divided wassat ). Show bills for "spoiled ecology".
      Well, and in connection with the decreasing transit cargo flow from Russia through the Baltic Extinctions, they will probably be billing for the lost transit fee wassat
      Their imagination can lead a lot where, especially against the background of sharply falling incomes.
      1. +8
        17 May 2016 15: 28
        [quote = Alexander1959] [quote] Baltic Extinctions [/ quote]
        The phrase is cool, you need to remember good
  17. +9
    17 May 2016 08: 40
    Freebie can not be eternal!

    As well as Russian goodwill, patience, willingness to help at the expense of oneself. That's just what it was necessary to do earlier, so that today the Balts do not just feel where they have already fallen (fifth point), but fully understand that they are already in the pope.
  18. +19
    17 May 2016 08: 45
    As soon as possible, we would have already stopped all cooperation with the Baltic states, especially economic. It is a great desire to see how the northern fur-bearing animal comes running to them and looks into their bestial eyes and asks for all the nasty things, abominations and meanness that they spewed towards Russia. I hope we have enough patience to calmly and silently watch how these miserable and worthless people die out.
    1. +16
      17 May 2016 11: 46
      This animal has already come running, only while it runs around the regions where mainly Russians live. North-East Estonia, was an industrial region, but the Estonian managers closed almost all enterprises. Now we have an official unemployment rate of almost 14%, real more than 30%. Pro * Balts act according to a simple principle, "the Russians will get worse from this project, so we will participate in it." They wanted to spit on everything (their people, country) just to show that they "annoyed" the Russians.
      When there was a war in Chechnya, they called Nokhchi brothers. Now the "swamp tigers" have Ukrainians in honor, they are treating ukrovoyak in hospitals. They confiscate Russian books where the dignity of Ukrainian nationalists is "insulted."
  19. +15
    17 May 2016 08: 45
    In some ways, these Baltic sisters remind me of a brow who pinned testicles on the Red Square, but forgot the nail clipper ...
    1. +3
      17 May 2016 12: 18
      Only they have nothing to nail. winked
  20. +5
    17 May 2016 08: 57
    The article pleased. Now even the neighbors barking is perceived as a song. Good luck to the Baltic members of NATA ...
  21. +14
    17 May 2016 09: 04
    In addition to St. Petersburg and Ust - Luga, there is also Primorsk and Vysotsk! Yes, the little ones are still "cubs", but they will grow up - they need to feed, develop! It would be nice to develop the native Russian city of Vyborg in terms of a modern port - a chemical terminal. products and chem. fertilizers. By the way, even Yaroslavl or Rybinsk, if you use the Volgo - Baltic Canal and mixed river - sea type vessels, can also be used as a major port! I always repeat, there would be a desire and political will, but "x ..." for every Baltic well ... there is!
    1. +10
      17 May 2016 13: 31
      Now, ports are being built in all directions. Baltika - Ust-Luga port development and the Bronka multifunctional marine transshipment complex. Black Sea - Taman port is under construction. The Caspian is the development of the port of Olya. The Arctic Ocean - the port of Sabetta. Quiet - the development of the port of Vostochny.
      In the near future, projects will begin - the universal seaport “Big Port Zarubino” (Primorsky Krai), the coal port of Vera (Primorsky Krai) and a new deep-water port in the Kaliningrad region.
      All these are projects for a billion dollars each. The port of Sabetta, along with the entire Yamal LNG project, is in the region of $ 12 billion. hi
  22. +9
    17 May 2016 09: 05
    Of course, this is not tomorrow or the day after. I think that in the course of 4-5 years, when the trade turnover between Russia and the Baltic states will approach the level of zero, it will be possible to begin to see the transformations of Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia into their historical state. Namely, in the poor, deaf and, most offensive, far-off farms. Not needed by anyone: neither Russia, nor the USA, nor Europe.


    Starvation and poverty is their usual historical state. Neither of them, the Baltic states, History does not teach.
    1. +8
      17 May 2016 11: 36
      Quote: Arkan
      Starvation and poverty is their usual historical state. Neither of them, the Baltic states, History does not teach.

      Only this time, the story with them is also a joke ...
      All of this New European Shelupon will become a sedimentation tank for the discharge of migrants from BV from Europe.
      With the collapse of the economy and the depletion of the working-age population, one of the sources of replenishment of the budget of the Baltic countries will be to receive subsidies for each adopted bearded head.
      I wonder how then they will use the status of "non-citizens"?
  23. 0
    17 May 2016 09: 15
    This also applies to the fact that some forces in our country are talking indiscriminately at all corners about a "gas station country" in which nothing is being built except tanks. It turns out that it is being built.

    Eee, and then we read further:
    And it is built in such a way that the need for Baltic transit falls more and more every day. We can. The interaction with the Baltic States in transport matters is steadily declining. By rail - five times. By container - in four. By volume of general cargo - three. In 2015 alone, the transportation of oil and oil products through the ports of the Baltic countries fell by 20,9%, coal - by 36%, even mineral fertilizers - by 3,4%.

    Nothing that is said about raw materials again, about the same notorious "gas station"? That ports are being built in order to export raw materials again, though without intermediaries, which is better in itself, but nonetheless.
  24. +6
    17 May 2016 09: 28
    with regard to the Baltic states, in the phrase "NATO member", the emphasis should be placed on the first word =) For it is this place that NATO constantly shakes for intimidation.

    The article is valid, but it's too good a springboard (since there are so many ports) for NATO to leave. Perhaps only in 20 years, when the entire infrastructure collapses. Many things can happen in 20 years, such as the "enlightenment of the mind" among the Balts.
    1. +1
      17 May 2016 14: 20
      Only unlikely to ever get up smile .
    2. +3
      17 May 2016 21: 27
      Quote: Snow
      since there are so many ports

      A port is an expensive thing, both in construction and in maintenance. The walls there under the deep-seated vessels, after 40 years will require serious repairs. Of these 40, how many have already passed? There will be no cargo flow, ports on a broom will leave - there is a lot of metal.
  25. cap
    +4
    17 May 2016 09: 29
    A good article showed who is who.
    Management sheds in the states, the territory under the base. Everything is logical.
  26. +4
    17 May 2016 09: 35
    A clear article, the labuses were smashed to dust, they personally sawed down the branch on which they were sitting.
  27. +5
    17 May 2016 09: 52
    Just as eastern Europe used to be a security belt for the USSR, now the Baltic states, Ukraine, Georgia, Turkey, and Moldova are the same belt for the European Union and NATO. It is necessary to change this state of affairs, but it will take a lot of time and money. Well, or by military means, but this is not in fashion now.
  28. +2
    17 May 2016 09: 57
    They themselves are guilty. Let now not yapping.
  29. +8
    17 May 2016 10: 20
    USSR fed the Baltic states with their hands, cheated,
    now lick the ass of the West, flawed.
  30. +3
    17 May 2016 10: 34
    As they say - better late than never!
  31. +7
    17 May 2016 10: 57
    As the king of the Jews of Solomon said: Everything passes, and this will pass.
    In general, for safety reasons it is forbidden to cut the branch on which you sit. But the stupid and blatant leadership of our former fraternal republics wanted to sneeze on common sense, if only to please the owner, that is, the United States.
    1. msm
      msm
      +2
      17 May 2016 16: 55
      Sawed off "this bitch" - and we got rid of the bitches! This is good.
  32. +3
    17 May 2016 11: 01
    Or maybe the "freedom-loving" Baltic people want to die of hunger in Europe, rather than remain satiated in friendship with us.
    Well, everyone is free to choose their fate ...
  33. +10
    17 May 2016 11: 16
    No matter how they requested, but as one of our politicians said: there is no article in our budget on the restoration of the Baltic industry.
  34. STN
    +7
    17 May 2016 11: 25
    And all the same, I feel sorry for the Baltics, it’s necessary, so to go blind in their grandeur, ambition and exclusivity ... It was also surprising in Soviet times their disdainful attitude towards Russian brothers, not at all, of course. A mature and responsible person will never divide people into higher and lower. This is all from their own closeness, "bydlyahestvo". And please don't forget that basically, people just fell under the hand. As it turned out, people can be shod at once ...
  35. +11
    17 May 2016 11: 32
    Quote: inkass_98
    Roman, I can disappoint you, but even after the non-Tigers have become primitive, the NATO forces will not leave there. There has not yet been a case when someone from this office was released (we won’t talk about France, there were completely different people in power, and they didn’t leave the political component of the bloc). And the location of troops and bases close to the borders of Russia is worth a lot, even if there is a desert there, even better — there are less worries with Aboriginal people. This is too weighty an argument in disputes with Russia to simply abandon what has been achieved for at least 30 years — missiles in less than ten minutes of approach to Moscow and St. Petersburg. For cruise missiles, more time, but this is offset by the amount.

    The novel is most likely right, but the BalticNet airspace monitoring system will remain as an early warning system for Western European air defense. Signals will cease to arrive in the Danish Karup - sound the alarm. And the point of view of ground operations is a dead end for everyone: one has nowhere to run, the second need to spend nerves on this dead end
  36. +7
    17 May 2016 12: 25
    Poles are concerned about the construction of the port in Pioneer

    Source: Klops.Ru Author: Julia Borodina
    October 06, 201412: 42 7198 9

    The news about the construction of an international port in Pionersky in the Kaliningrad region has caused a number of cautious publications in the Polish media. So, on the portal "Radio Gdansk" in early October, articles appeared with the headlines: "There is no need to panic, but should not be underestimated - experts on the construction of a port in Kaliningrad", "Formation of the Kaliningrad international port - bad news for Pomerania."

    Radio Gdansk quotes the president of the Pomeranian Special Economic Zone Teresa Kaminska: “... This will be a serious competition for our ports. The Kaliningrad region is now so strongly strengthened economically ... The port may also have a military coloration. These actions on the part of Russia require a lot of analysis and observation ".

    According to Violetta Kakovska-Mehring, a journalist for Trójmiastо.pl, investments in Kaliningrad can be dangerous, especially for the port of Gdansk, which transports containers to Russia. She noted that the Kaliningrad port may "pull off" part of the Polish contracts.

    Polish journalists also express the opinion that the new port will not be able to change the situation on the Baltic Sea. “The Kaliningrad port will potentially be able to operate only 10 percent of the capacity of the ports in Gdynia and 8 percent in Gdansk,” says Artur Kiełbasiński, a journalist for Gazeta Wyborcza.

    Recall, the Russian government allocated 8,5 billion rubles for the construction of an international marine passenger terminal with a yacht marina in Pionersky in early October. In Pionersky, berths will be built to receive cruise ships with a passenger turnover of up to 250 thousand people a year.

    Also, by 2017, a deep-water port will be built, which will include a container terminal with a capacity of 35 million tons, cargo terminals, a regasification terminal with a capacity of 2,3 million tons.
  37. +5
    17 May 2016 12: 48
    Very biting, timely article. The author of the article is an absolute plus.
  38. +2
    17 May 2016 13: 57
    If only they would not be demolished. We have a bad habit of believing in tears and snot. And tears and snot will probably be.
  39. 0
    17 May 2016 14: 20
    The territory of Lithuania is similar to the African continent. What is it for?
  40. +4
    17 May 2016 14: 24
    Good article.
    It’s necessary to think of it ... You sit in transit, not a penny invested in the construction of facilities.
    The supplier is ready to give the product with a good discount, agrees to any tariffs.
    And you persecute this supplier and spread rot ...
    Damn, yes, in mind, these transit countries in gold would go,
    if you were with us. But this is not fate, yes ...
    1. +2
      17 May 2016 15: 51
      In Ukraine, in the early 90s there was a fixed idea to establish and advertise its international transport corridors (MTK).
      They divorced up to a dozen on paper.
      And there were real opportunities to make Ukraine a leading transit power.
      But the transport of Ukraine is driven by historians, tantrums, rural machine operators, just scammers. Out of two dozen ministers, professionals over 25 there were ... three. And then for a long time.
      And after the Maidan, the Maidanut people rule, with the goal: to quickly destroy everything according to the same pattern as the Black Sea Shipping Company was destroyed.
      So cards with Ukrainian MTKs are a collectible rarity.
  41. +3
    17 May 2016 15: 05
    I agree with Roman. For example, in Latvia, young people are moving in droves to the "old" Europe. At home, there are no prospects, no jobs, no future. Unfortunately, such indecency is also present in Russia: Moscow and its surrounding regions.
  42. +2
    17 May 2016 15: 13
    The article is excellent (if the numbers are correct) .An honestly, not an article. This is a sentence.
  43. +3
    17 May 2016 15: 40
    Great article. For the sake of interest, I even "googled", everything is so, a lot of interesting facts. Thanks to the author for the information ;-)
  44. +10
    17 May 2016 15: 43
    It was high time to stop transit through the Baltic countries.
    And here attempts to get around using Ukrzadiznytsia and stunted container trains from Ukrainian, also former Russian and Soviet ports of the Black Sea.
    So there is nothing to carry !!!
    They are looking for people who want to in Azerbaijan, trying to launch their own separate Silk Road from Ilyichevsk (how did the Ukrainians rename it there?) To China - from Ilyichevsk through the Black Sea, Georgia, the Caspian, Kazakhstan ... It’s expensive, long and stupid to take air back and forth, but but the propaganda effect is “BY RUSSIA !!!”
    The fact that the ungrateful, but greedy Balts have been living on Russian transit for so long is the fault of specific Russian officials for whom this was beneficial. In particular, the late ex-Minister of Railways of the Russian Federation Nikolai Aksyonenko. He had such serious selfish interest that for his success in filling the Estonian budget, his son received Estonian citizenship, and acquired an island in the Baltic and his companies - forwarding and telecommunications, were blissful in the native market.
    How many more are there?
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation and Russian Railways should clarify issues with the Union Belarus on the benefits for Ukrainian container trains to the ports of the Baltic countries
    1. +9
      17 May 2016 18: 15
      Your most faithful thought on this subject. The first thing to do is ask your officials, and then look at the rest.
      When everything happened in Ukraine, I was still asking why this happened, who was in charge of the Ukrainian direction, why Gazprom immediately began to cry `` they invested more than 200 billion in Ukraine (only Gazprom), and Ukraine turned out to be so ungrateful. '' 5 billion were enough for us for two coups, where is the herd of stupid officials removed? By the way, only half a year ago I found out that it turns out that Zurabov was responsible for Ukraine then (and he still does the same), drove medicine into ... well, got another civil service. Why is this ... (I don't even know what to call it decently) still rules something, and not thrown out in disgrace?
      In Russia (in principle, as elsewhere, remember s, the European Union) - all the troubles are from stupid officials. It is time for Putin to get rid of devoted fools for a long time, to leave only smart friends nearby.
  45. +4
    17 May 2016 15: 53
    A very realistic article. In some ways, sprats are like teenagers who, after graduation, rushed to a big city in a student (adult) life. Mom-folder by inertia give money, some kind of stepka is paid. You can actively go round in your own circle against your old people, they say what are they bad, and courage from the heart. But the study was over, the parents explained that it was time to live on their own, and not on the parents, and then it began to come to an understanding that the old people weren’t so bad ... However, it was time to answer for the bazaar!
  46. +5
    17 May 2016 20: 40
    Very soon the Balts and Labuses will stand at the gates of Russia in tears, snot and other sour cream, and whine. "Let me get warm, otherwise there is nothing." And here it is VERY necessary to look not at tears and snot, but at the chronicle. Chronicle of humiliation of Russia and Russians.
    And one more thing. Are the bills for the well-being of the Baltic States (the Baltic States and Lithuania) constant in the USSR - are you ready?
  47. +2
    17 May 2016 23: 18
    A supersonic fighter does not have time to accelerate over any of these countries as it flies past it. Amerikosy tear off the national Louboutin flags and defecate on the streets of their cities in front of proud and independent residents. Archers are preparing to repel the Russian occupation ... What else can I say? The hangover will be long and scary.
  48. 0
    18 May 2016 03: 51
    Did you hear about donors and subsidized republics under the Soviet Union? This issue can set some regions against others.
  49. 0
    18 May 2016 06: 17
    Quote: 96423lom
    But father is still a bug

    Quote: 96423lom
    But father is still a bug

    ... Duc, what name does Old Man have? However, .. Lukashenko ..- this does not mean anything ..?
  50. +1
    18 May 2016 07: 13
    It is clear that this problem with three unknown Baltic dwarfs cannot be solved overnight? Yes, and bargaining. contracts - freights are concluded for years to come! And yet, as was the case in one popular TV show - is it necessary to identify the "weakest link"? That is, start splitting this tripartite alliance one at a time: first, Tallinn (Estonia) should be cut off, then Riga (Latvia) ... We should play for a while with Lithuania, pointing out that if the pragmatic Lithuanians do not come to their senses, then we will find ways - communication solutions with Kaliningrad and without them, but what will they do without Russia? In short, "let's go down the mountain and move .... all the Baltic herd in turn" !!!
  51. +3
    18 May 2016 09: 08
    I’ve been reading similar articles and conclusions for 20 years: “now we’ll show them Kuzka’s Mother,” but Russian money was and is being laundered, oil is still flowing.

    The article, in general, like many others, adequately covers the situation, but like many others, it “goes into emptiness.” The flow will decrease, but will not disappear. And what is missing will be received from European funds, simply by shouting about “aggression”.

    Just recently they want to introduce the KNOW-HOW of European politics - walls. They promise to “cut” as much as 70 million. It’s a small thing, of course, but for those 50-100 people who decide something in this country, it’s quite a bit of money.

    A formidable article, but “in the milk”.
    1. 0
      18 May 2016 17: 02
      Mister Wolf! I disagree with you a little and exactly in what respect? If you have ever been involved in foreign economics. activity, you should know that the terms of the contracts are very strict in terms of the choice of logistics schemes (ports, freight, delivery, packaging, customs, etc.) If you look at shipments in the post-Soviet period, then during the Balts, more than anyone else in the world, they loaded “tsvetnina” (copper, nickel, aluminum, titanium, etc.) and fertilizers. Now the structure of exports has shifted somewhat to fuel (oil, coal, pitch, etc.). Metallurgists worked there then. like my famous friend - the oligarch Peters (headquarters in the state "Viru" (Tallinn)), now these ports are the patrimony of GPN or SUEK! There is a time for everything - one by one we will strangle these chickens like a ferret in a chicken coop - give it time!
  52. 0
    18 May 2016 10: 17
    and when devastation and decline sets in there, the Americans will join in and it will begin...
  53. +3
    18 May 2016 13: 00
    It is easy to destroy what has been created, which is what was done in the Baltic countries. It will be more difficult to come up with and finance something new. Rather impossible. Nobody wants to support bolts.
  54. wow
    +2
    18 May 2016 13: 30
    My classmates from Riga write that you wouldn’t recognize Riga now. Previously, it was full of young people, students and workers of many enterprises, sailors. Now Riga is a city of those “over 50”. Almost all the young animals went to earn money in Europe. Some to Poland, some to the UK, and some further afield. There are practically no enterprises operating, only small handicraft workshops. With which I congratulate my former fellow countrymen. As the classic said: “...you are walking the right road, comrades...”! Or rather, they have already arrived.
  55. 0
    18 May 2016 15: 03
    The author of the article is absolutely right. I can also add that the factories we built no longer exist. To put it figuratively, they were simply liquidated on orders from the beloved West (RAF, VEF...). People lost their jobs, and countries lost at least some industry. And they returned to the prostituting role of either an intermediary or someone else. Well, this is their fate, their decision.
  56. 0
    18 May 2016 21: 50
    Politics is politics, but you always want to eat. Since the moment they left the USSR, the Baltic states have been playing orphans. They say we are small, poor, offended by Russia and occupied. Help us orphans. We must somehow pay attention to ourselves. Otherwise they will be forgotten there in the European Union.
  57. 0
    18 May 2016 22: 10
    And, by the way, NATO troops will most likely leave the Baltic states. Sami. Because there will be no point in keeping them there. Protecting rusting rails and port cranes from Russia is an expensive and more than dubious pleasure. And emptying territories that no one needs, whose inhabitants will turn screws or something else in Europe.
    They are still a backyard of the EU, but NATO needs them as a springboard for striking the Russian Federation. Therefore, it is necessary to intensify the work on the collapse of NATO, and this requires a lot of time and patience, because the truth reaches these peoples slowly! laughing
  58. +1
    18 May 2016 23: 00
    Namely, the poor, deaf and, most offensively, useless backyard farms. Not needed by anyone: neither Russia, nor the USA, nor Europe.

    Why are these not needed by anyone! Negro refugees will be settled, diluted a little
    the blood of blond beasts.
  59. 0
    19 May 2016 09: 01
    Repeatedly in Soviet times I had to visit Riga, Ventspils, Klaipeda, it must be said frankly that “Russophia” was present there even then, somewhere more, somewhere less. To put it mildly, despite all the efforts, they did not complain there. It was surprising that the USSR was constantly building something on the national outskirts; they always got the “fat”, tidbits from the common pie. And even this did not change their understanding and perception of Russia. In fact, in post-Soviet times, it turned out that “rich brides” without Russia are just soap bubbles. I recently returned from Kaliningrad and was pleased to see that everything around was “studded” with tower cranes, and what kind of roads were being built, interchanges, a port, however, unfortunately, all this was only in Kaliningrad and around it. Further worse, narrow, still German roads, dotted along the side with “Wehrmacht soldiers.” Svetlogorsk is being rebuilt well, a real resort, “Yantar” alone is worth it! At all border gas stations there are a lot of cars with Polish and Lithuanian license plates, they refuel with a reserve, they fill four or five cans in addition to the tank (gasoline is cheaper here!), but if you look at it, well, you don’t like Russia, why the hell are you rushing here? The increase in the military component seems to be even imperceptible, the abandoned military camps are striking, somehow the whole thing “was falling apart” without being thought out, the reviews about Taburetkin are only negative!!! With such a Minister of Defense there was no need for enemies, it’s a shame how much harm he did and “got away with it”! As for the growing NATO threat, it really is growing and those who believe that the gundogs will not gain a foothold in the Baltic states are fundamentally wrong. Scouts are constantly flying in neutral, in the Baltiysk region, the Poles in the border areas also show noticeable activity, but the Lithuanians, they have always been Russophobes. In general, the “top” of the neighbors is all corrupt, well, what can you do, it’s our own fault, too much quickly, after the war, they thought that nationalism would become obsolete. No, it hasn’t outlived itself, it has found new (old!) owners, for whom from time immemorial Russia has been a “thorn in the side.” So, the enclave must be prepared to defend and the military component must be strengthened in every possible way, not paying attention to the barking and hissing of “foreign mongrels” and home-grown “liberals” of all stripes.
  60. 0
    19 May 2016 09: 03
    I agree with everything except one point - NATO will not leave the Baltic states. They are not protecting the Balts there anyway; moreover, they are ready to fight with Russia to the last Balt, Ukrainian, Romanian, German and others. So the missiles will be placed there and will remain there until we liberate these lands again.
  61. 0
    19 May 2016 10: 19
    I agree with you all in many respects! But? There are several questions. Why the hell was it necessary to build gigantic textile and spinning plants and factories in Riga and its environs??? Where to recruit female workers in a republic with a population of two million? Yes, there are not two or three factories in the republic, but about a dozen. Raw materials Cotton was brought from Central Asia in wagons, some factories spun thread, others linen. And female workers were brought from neighboring republics, girls from collective farms fled to the city. There were not enough locals. The same sprats whose ships brought fish here? In my opinion, there was not a single port whose ships were not unloaded at the port of Riga. That’s why huge processing enterprises were built, but where to recruit workers? Again, people were lured away from neighboring republics. Yes, housing was built for them, and they received apartments after a while, at first they lived in dorms, got married, got an apartment, and the locals who lived in old houses, with amenities in the yard, were jealous of the fact that a couple of years ago the newcomers had already received an apartment, and they have to wait another twenty years, because they do not work at a new enterprise that has its own housing stock, did not add to the love for visitors. Moreover, if you take into account the remaining undetected, forgiven, and war “heroes” who returned from exile and camps, and members of their families, deprived of everything? What result could be expected from this audience? And the new arrivals were “imbued” with the same spirit, not to everyone, but for the most part, quite noticeably..... “Freedom” loomed (although 85% were against secession from the USSR) under the strict leadership of former party members functionaries and the rotten intelligentsia at the head, that’s what this rabble did, “freedom for the republic.” And the factories were sold for scrap metal, they paid well for it overseas. And for the closure of the factories, the functionaries “got on”. Foreign countries paid so that there would be no competitors. Yes, all this is repeated, to a lesser extent here too.
    Everything else has already been said above in the article."
    This is just one little tidbit (personal opinion of one little pensioner) about the events in Latvia, about the so-called “dislike” for everything Soviet.....And how many such giant production facilities were there throughout Latvia? Where did people come from to work? Here is my personal opinion! You can minus it. I’ll survive. I just wanted to speak out about this for a person who lives and was born here.
    R.S. I pulled the urgent one like everyone else. I “wore” shoulder straps for 26 years. This is true, by the way.
  62. 0
    19 May 2016 18: 16
    It's time.
  63. 0
    20 May 2016 01: 07
    In addition to the backyard farmsteads, there will also be American missile defense systems protecting these farmsteads! This is very democratic!!!
  64. -1
    20 May 2016 03: 00
    You know, reading this site, there is a lot of pro-Russian rhetoric with sarcasm. Everyone around is bad and “we” are the only good ones. Can not be so. This is very similar in the spirit of red propaganda, but now it is in color. In my opinion, everything should be written in a neutral spirit, as befits informational articles.
  65. 0
    22 May 2016 21: 25
    Quote: RoTTor
    By the way, there were three movie studios, several cool theaters, did they stay?
    Or also - ...

    Exactly, that “too”. The only thing that reminds us of the Lithuanian film studio in Klaipeda is... the name of the bus stop on the outskirts of the city, where it (the film studio) once was. I don’t even want to talk about the industrial enterprises of the city!