In the Russian Federation began testing UAE UAE United 40

Flight tests are underway in Russia drone United 40, manufactured by ADCOM Systems (UAE), the military-industrial complex reports with reference to RIA News.

“The tests of the United 40 UAE UAV began in the State Flight Test Center (GLITS) of the Russian Defense Ministry named after Chkalov,” a defense industry source told the agency.

The agency recalls that the ADCOM Systems group of companies that developed the UAVs back in 2013 g reported on an existing agreement with the Russian military for supplying United 40 class MALE drones. However, tests by decision of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation were postponed.

It is reported that "United 40 - medium-altitude apparatus of a long duration of flight, which may be in the air for more than 100 hours."

It is made according to the traditional for the manufacturer scheme "with the fuselage of s-shape and a large removal tandem wing." On the front wing - 2 piston engine.

Company Help: “The United 40 system can be used both for carrying out observation missions and for launching missile strikes against targets on the ground. The device has four points of arms suspension, each designed for loads up to 100 kilograms and an internal bomb bay with a carousel type suspension system with six attachment points. As weapons In particular, air-to-surface Yabhon Namrod guided missiles developed by Adcom Systems or Russian missiles could be used. ”

Comments

[Observer2014]

Interestingly, and that such "Humpbacked Skates" can not be done at home?

[Portolan]

ugly

[lelikas]

Quote: Portolan

ugly

For that it flies as it should.
What once again showed our backlog, once postponed for three years - that means someone promised to do and did not ...

[cniza]

Quote: Observer2014

Interestingly, and that such "Humpbacked Skates" can not be done at home?

He is also interested in this issue, we are developing the sixth generation ... and where are the domestic developments ?, I do not believe that they are not there, what could be the reason?

[Tusv]

Quote: cniza

Also interested in this issue, we are developing the sixth generation ... and where are the domestic developments?

I am sure. Secretly

[V.ic]

Quote: Tusv

I am sure. Secretly

In vain we are sure ... In a year, it will be classified as "Top Secret", and when the program is "overwhelmed" again, it will again be promoted to "Special Importance".

[Tusv]

and when the program is "overwhelmed" again, it will once again be promoted to "Special Importance".

Well, when the Americans are testing something, then everyone knows. And the Clubs do not fly us, but suddenly the missile carriers are arming. Also about Zircons. Two years ago they trumpeted the success of the test stripes, and ours supposedly had three launches and all were unsuccessful

[Observer2014]

Tusv (7) RU Today, 15:54 ↑
and when the program is "overwhelmed" again, it will once again be promoted to "Special Importance".
Well, when the Americans are testing something, then everyone knows. And the Clubs do not fly us, but suddenly the missile carriers are arming. Also about Zircons. Two years ago they trumpeted the success of the test stripes, and ours supposedly had three launches and all were unsuccessful

This is all because our humble

[PSih2097]

Quote: cniza

What could be the reason?

this reason is called LOBBISM, at one time they could be purchased from Israel, and the price tag was normal, but they said it was very expensive, and crap started with purchases of foreign samples (Lynx, Centaur, Mistral) ...

[NordUral]

But we must apply the method of Comrade. Stalin to such promises. And not to engineers and workers, but to those who steal and stirs up.

[ultra]

Make and experience different concepts.

[lelikas]

Quote: ultra

Make and experience different concepts.

Yeah, and absolutely, we make beautiful layouts, and they experience Arab and Jewish.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Observer2014

Interestingly, and that such "Humpbacked Skates" can not be done at home?

Russians know how to very successfully improve someone else’s, and if they come up with it ... then hold on.

for example, the famous T-34 was made of English Christie, a three-ruler from a Berdanka, the same maxim of Chapaev Amersky, Kalash from German stg, RPG from Panzerfaust, etc. there is nothing wrong with that. If the Chinese stupidly copy one to one, changing only the name to certain dongfen and shenyang, then the Russians can radically change the design in the direction of improving efficiency. But of course there are a lot of domestic developments, in this regard, the Soviet era is a golden age of ingenuity, I just want to say that there is nothing wrong with peeping at foreign developments, we can like some idea.

[svp67]

Quote: Max_Bauder

for example, the famous T-34 was made from English Christie

Christie was actually an AMERICAN.

Quote: Max_Bauder

trilinear with berdank

I have not heard more delirium. They even have a different caliber.

Quote: Max_Bauder

Kalash from German stg

Another nonsense.

Quote: Max_Bauder

Panzerfaust RPG

These anti-tank weapons vary in how they work.
Teach the materiel so as not to carry such a frank nonsense.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: svp67

Christie was actually an AMERICAN.

What is there about Christie left besides the suspension?

Quote: svp67

trilinear with berdank
I have not heard more delirium. They even have a different caliber.

Both of them have a longitudinally sliding shutter, if compared with Berdan-2, and nothing at all with Berdan-1.

Quote: svp67

Kalash from German stg Another nonsense.

Well, you, colleague, are all nonsense, but nonsense, they are similar in appearance.

[Yuri from Volgograd]

1. Christie is the principle of the suspension, which by the way the Americans themselves scored, until they saw the T34.
2. Kalash is similar in appearance, nothing more. Schmeister was definitely not a prototype.
3. Faust, in principle, had a cumulative stream, which is generally not the topic.

[Bath]

Oh, why haven’t the red-haired Nanocorub Chubbak been invited to develop their own UAV? He doesn’t believe power is visible in Chuba’s talents

[northern]

Quote: Max_Bauder

The T-34 was made of English Christie, a three-ruler from a Berdanka, the same maxim of Chapaev Amersky, Kalash from German stg, RPG from Panzerfaust, etc.

Not too early in the glass then climbed?

[Record Nadoev]

Quote: Max_Bauder

for example, the famous T-34 was made of English Christie, a three-ruler from a Berdanka, the same maxim of Chapaev Amersky, Kalash from German stg, RPG from Panzerfaust, etc.

1. Why is the T-34 so famous, in the distant basis of which, through BT, the American Christie tank lay?
2. Actually, the three-line is a Nagant rifle, "improved" and redesigned for a welted cartridge. And, as usual, a chain of "improvements" led to the creation of the most sloppy European rifle, except, perhaps, the Italian Carcano. But that one had a joint in the cartridge, and the mechanics were much better than the three-ruler.
3. Kalash, this ideologically German StG44. And mechanically, not really. After the war, it was made mainly by the Germans, who for quite a long time "did nothing in Izhevsk" for very decent money. Such a product needed a "correct author" and was quickly found. The "native" assault rifle designed by Kalashnikov was eliminated in the first round without the right to revision.
We have also forgotten the three-inch gun, which is actually a reworked and "improved" (that is, noticeably deteriorated, in particular by a slop breech), the French 75-mm Schneider gun mod. 1897
And forty-five, which is actually a marine 47-mm gun Hotchkiss arr. 1886 on a field carriage of German design. Moreover, the Germans also redone. From an engineering point of view, amazingly beautiful work. It’s a pity that the gun itself was outdated by 2MB.
And the 85-mm anti-aircraft gun 52-K, which is actually a German 88-mm anti-aircraft gun, which was first shortened and the "hole" made smaller (called the 76-mm anti-aircraft gun 3-K / 51-K), and then lengthened again and " the hole "is made bigger.
And one more thing could be remembered.

[yushch]

88 anti-aircraft gun is not German development at all, if I am not mistaken, it was supplied to Germany by Switzerland.

[family tree]

Quote: yushch

88 anti-aircraft gun is not German development at all, if I am not mistaken, it was supplied to Germany by Switzerland.

Yes, German, in fact, only piled on the Swedish "Bofors". in Germany it was impossible, according to the Treaty of Versailles, so Krupp sent his own to Sweden.

[Record Nadoev]

Quote: yushch

88 anti-aircraft gun generally not German development

You confuse it with Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns.

[family tree]

Quote: Record Nadoev

After the war, it was made mainly by the Germans, who for quite a long time "did nothing in Izhevsk" for very decent money.

Only, here's the bad luck, "Kalash" was done in Kovrov, the finished structure was gone to Izhevsk, for production, so the same Hugo really did nothing there. Although no, I scribbled complaints, as they say, they promised 5 sput rubles a month, but they give out only 3 and a half, and then finally they knocked them over to two and a half, I want to go home, to the motherland.

[Record Nadoev]

Quote: perepilka

Only, here's the bad luck, "Kalash" was made in Kovrov, the finished construction went to Izhevsk

Kalash was made in Izhevsk. And since then it belongs to the Izhevsk plant. And in Kovrov there was one nimble sergeant. Therefore, Kovrov appears in this story.

Quote: perepilka

so the same Hugo, there really didn’t do anything.

You make me laugh.

Quote: perepilka

Although no, I wrote complaints, as they say, they promised 5 tyr rubles a month, and they give out only 3 and a half rubles each, and then finally they knocked down two and a half, I want to go home to faterland.

I don’t know, maybe scribbled. But this is not the case.

[BarakHuseynovich]

There were two sergeants. Automatic Carbine - 47 is a synthesis of the Korobov Assault Rifle and the first Kalashnikov Assault Rifle.
Until recent years, Kalashnikov was always against the machine being called by his name, he himself indicated that a huge team worked on him and not only his ideas were applied.

[Record Nadoev]

Quote: BarakHuseynovich

Automatic Carbine - 47 is a synthesis of the Korobov Assault Rifle and the first Kalashnikov Assault Rifle

Lord, how tired you are already.
And this one there, on knows how the technologist differs from the designer, but knows everything about the synthesis of structures.

[BarakHuseynovich]

Quote: Fleent, Nadoev Record, and other Germanophile ...

Lord, how tired you are already.
And this one there, on knows how the technologist differs from the designer, but knows everything about the synthesis of structures.

just shut up ... you are visible despite the emergency, and your minuses do not work

From the first Kalashnikov Assault Rifle in the AK-47 its bolt group with a thin shutter shank, almost everything else is from the Korobov Assault Rifle. The latter refused to engage in the synthesis of two automata into one ...

[family tree]

Quote: Record Nadoev

Kalash was made in Izhevsk. And since then it belongs to the Izhevsk plant.

You, apparently, do not know, only in the USSR, nothing belonged to the plant.

"By a joint decision of the Ministry of Armament and USV GAU, the inventor-designer Kalashnikov is sent to your plant, whose project was awarded a cash prize of 7 thousand rubles. According to this project, the Design Bureau of Plant No. 2 needs to make prototypes of the machine in accordance with the Resolution of the Council of Ministers of July 10, 1946 year and an agreement with USV GAU so that prototypes of machines were submitted for comparative tests at NIPSMVO (test site. - Author's note) in December 1946. To complete this work in such a short time, I ask for your instructions on providing all-round assistance to the designer Kalashnikov by assigning experienced draftsmen-designers and a technologist to him to develop working drawings. In view of the special urgency of working out the design of the machine, I ask you to take all the necessary measures to speed up the work ... Head of the Engineering and Artillery Service, Major General Dubovitsky. "

But in general, here, so as not to finger
http://www.kovrov-city.ru/news/1396.html
Search, there is still, even scans of documents can be found.

[Record Nadoev]

Quote: perepilka

Search, there is still, even scans of documents can be found.

Kvassniki are strange people. For some reason, they believe papers from the USSR. Calling them "documents". The USSR knew how to produce "documents". It was worse with industrial products. With food. And with the "documents", everything was fine.
And you give links ...

[BarakHuseynovich]

How nothing? He set up his lines exported from Germany for more than two years, until they promised to shoot him for it - after that he quickly did everything in 2 months.

[Record Nadoev]

Quote: BarakHuseynovich

He set up his lines exported from Germany for more than two years, until they promised to shoot him for it - after that he quickly did everything in 2 months.

Did you promise? Was he a technologist? Why do you come up with some silly stories?
You do not even know who and what is involved in the production.

[BarakHuseynovich]

I would do it to you right away.

Schmeiser was the head of the company, technologists were subordinate to him.

[Record Nadoev]

Quote: BarakHuseynovich

Schmeiser was the head of the company, technologists were subordinate to him.

What for in the USSR is needed for a lot of money "head of the company"? There were enough of their own "heads" without Schmeiser.

[BarakHuseynovich]

He brought trollin to the emergency, now how do you get out of there?

knock someone this gay

[serkhan]

Kalash, this is ideologically German StG44

how did you get the guys ... Surely after a while you will find an IDEOLOGICAL author for the "Armata" tank. I found a "historian" here ...

[Record Nadoev]

Quote: serkhan

Kalash, this is ideologically German StG44
how did you get the guys ...

It seems all over the world only you alone doubt it. Not at all versed in weapons?

[Reducer]

Record Nadoev-record bored)))

[Koshak]

Quote: Max_Bauder

for example, the famous T-34 was made from English Christie

Straight twins are brothers. So where is the T-34? By the way, he is "American"

And didn’t they accidentally make the Su-27 from the F-15?

[vv3]

This is a toy for plugging holes. We need UAVs for targeting ground based weapons and not only. We need UAVs for integration into our information system. These can’t be bought, the sooner our ADVANCED strategists will understand, the better. Let our poor ones, but integrated with their equipment, which can be developed and improved. Use an open architecture and build opportunities. There is no other way. When these idiots will understand and accept the concept of creation information system, this issue has not been raised, but should be adopted yesterday !!!

[dauria]

, this question has not been raised, but should be adopted yesterday !!!

What makes you think that there are no military networks in the Russian Federation? They appeared much earlier than Facebook and Vkontakte.
And it is always useful to "touch" someone else's piece of iron. If a technologist or expert finds a clue for his puzzle, that's good.

[vv3]

A military network is something too global and general, it does not provide information about the enemy and does not provide target designation in real time ... You are not in the subject, at all ...

[rpek32]

Quote: Observer2014

Interestingly, and that such "Humpbacked Skates" can not be done at home?

on the mind so it in a brazen cut, do reverse engineering, and cut your own. and on all questions - a face with a brick "I know nothing".

[g1v2]

They are designing, but in order to understand where to move it is necessary to compare with foreign models. Disassemble and see what is there and how. Again, to counter them. There Israeli drones at one time purchased and after studying them began to produce their models. And the mattresses complain that our drones can control our means of rep. So it is here. Why conduct intelligence when you can stupid buy and disassemble. Successful decisions - we will apply at home, unsuccessful - we will replace with our own. Well, if the Arabs want to produce their cars with us - for God's sake, orders will not hurt us.

[INTER]

What is incomprehensible here? Many issues on this pilotless pilot have been resolved, which would require a lot of effort and money, but they bought, dismantled, thought, did better than this! Isn't that what technical intelligence is for?

[Kent0001]

It turns out that no .... unfortunately.

[kapitan_21]

Sergey, this news is a stuffing of not reliable information. Colleagues in Akhtubinsk refuted this information!

[Vladimirets]

You need to test everything that is available. To buy in bulk or not, the second question. While there is nothing to boast about UAVs, it means that you can buy a foreign one a bit, if you have a decent one, we’ll catch up there.

[kapitan_21]

Eugene, UAV in our country has something to brag about. At least two complexes are approaching, which in the near future will light up to the full.
As I wrote above, this news is a stuffing of not reliable information.

[APASUS]

Here we’re ready, we’ve bought a license and upgraded for certain purposes. We don’t do this now, but I think it’s just the time to learn

[kapitan_21]

A license to assemble the device does not imply technology transfer. Since it was with the Outpost. Without technology transfer, product upgrades will cost the state cc the price of developing a new product from scratch. Once again I will give an example Outpost (Söcher Mk2)

[APASUS]

Quote: kapitan_21

A license to assemble the device does not imply technology transfer.

It makes no sense to buy an assembly license for such devices at all. It is the production license, which will allow us to upgrade, change technical specifications, make additions and changes to additional equipment

[Redfox3k]

They give to the Arabs ... I, frankly, thought that they can only pump oil and sell it.

[marshes]

Quote: Redfox3k

They give to the Arabs ... I, frankly, thought that they can only pump oil and sell it.

IMHO, there the Arabs are only concerned with financial issues and management, and I think the rest is an engineer from other countries.
In Dubai, there are a lot of people from the CIS, Europe, etc. Simply, the Arabs create excellent conditions for investment and work.

[Rus2012]

Quote: marshes

IMHO, there Arabs only deal with financial issues and leadership
...
There are a lot of immigrants from the CIS and Europe in Dubai

... there is even such a mention -

Our blog has already reported circulating information that the Russian Ministry of Defense plans to purchase a batch of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) from the United Arab Emirates (UAE) United 40 version of Block 5 developed by the local company ADCOM Systems (in fact, how can one judge these airframes, like other unmanned systems ADCOM Systems, developed with the active participation of specialists of the Kharkov Aviation Institute).

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/39520/

[marshes]

Quote: Rus2012

... there is even such a mention -

For rent there and not without the Israelis the same thing does not work, just look at some products. Maybe there are reasons that directly they cannot sell their products, not to which countries.
There are many "ours" in Dubai, as a rule, the host is an Arab.
Even in the offices for the sale of almost fresh cars, 4-7 years, the owners of the Arabs and affairs lead "our".

[Rus2012]

Quote: marshes

Surrenders there and not without the Israelis the same thing does not do

/// where without them?
The Arabs had a lot of money ...
Access to accessories too.
"Bright minds" who know how to connect and tune them live not far away.

True, this contract for the supply of U40 is several years old, even "before the aggravation".
T.ch. - ours will be tested ... and this will end. No one will let us import them ...
And cars, in fact, are not bad ... :)))

[marshes]

Quote: Rus2012

True, this contract for the supply of U40 is several years old, even "before the aggravation".
T.ch. - ours will be tested ... and this will end. No one will let us import them ...
And cars, in fact, are not bad ... :)))

The owner is a gentleman, only if the Arabs do not start to "pose," they will hint about "barter deals", about the equipment Russian equipment supplied to the UAE. You will never sell something in return. I keep it all-MUTUAL TRADE THIS ROAD IN TWO DIRECTIONS!

[APASUS]

Quote: Rus2012

Our blog has already reported circulating information that the Russian Ministry of Defense is planning to acquire a batch of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) United 40 in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) Block 5 version of the development of the local company ADCOM Systems (in fact, how to judge these airframes, like other unmanned systems ADCOM Systems, are developed with the active participation of specialists of the Kharkov Aviation Institute).

It’s strange on the site of the Research Institute of PFM KhAI not a word at all. You can easily believe http://niipfm.khai.edu/

[Lopatov]

Quote: marshes

IMHO, there the Arabs are only concerned with financial issues and management, and I think the rest is an engineer from other countries.

Right The drone in fact was designed by immigrants from Ukraine.

[Bort radist]

Quote: marshes

Arabs only deal with financial issues and leadership, and I think the rest is an engineer from other countries.

They are trying to recruit the best specialists in all areas. They pay very good money. But, the contract never reaches 25 years. That is, they will never be local pensioners. And further. Any foreigner who wants to open a business in the Emirates must find a local Arab and obtain consent from him. Subsequently, he is obliged to give his protege 50% of the profit. At the same time, the Arab has the right to intervene, to lead in business. When I found out about this, the first thing I thought about was that our war veterans would put their veto on the projects of traders from other countries. Each in his own city. Everyone would be happy, except for deputies and licensing authorities.

[marshes]

Quote: Bort Radist

Subsequently, he is obliged to give his protege 50% of the profit.

Well, ours and theirs are not getting smaller there, you have to be a complete "smart guy" to live your life there, if not an Arab. Yes, I’m used to the summer heat. I prefer to be there from December to February, Egypt, Thailand, Goa ...
In the summer and in Kazakhstan I will find where to relax, the extreme Marmaris.
They go there to earn money and not live.

[RUSS]

Quote: Redfox3k

They give to the Arabs ... I, frankly, thought that they can only pump oil and sell it.

Arabs can do a lot, for example, actively invest in tourism-

Since 1971, work has been underway in the United Arab Emirates to create an “Arab Wildlife Park” located on the island of Sir Bani Yas in the Persian Gulf. The island has an area of ​​84 km², but by 2016 it is planned to connect the island with the neighboring seven islands and create a much larger park. Thanks to the artificial irrigation system, the desert island was landscaped, which allowed to restore the rich fauna in the park, which basically coincides with the fauna that once existed in Arabia. On the island in natural conditions there are gazelles, the rarest white oryxes, cannes, garn, Asian mountain sheep, ostriches and giraffes. Of the large predators, there are Asian cheetahs and hyenas. In addition, the island serves as a marine reserve - it is a nesting site for seabirds, a manger of ocean turtles, and allows you to save biodiversity of coastal waters. The great success of the reserve was that it managed to achieve reproduction in the natural conditions of the Asian cheetah.

[33 Watcher]

Hmm ... Oh, what is a "six-point carousel"?
Maybe "revolver", though? Or..?

[Winnie76]

Four days can hang. For border guards, the most ...

[demchuk.ig]

It is not advisable to buy foreign electronics! At the right time, it can turn off due to a signal from outside.

[Vadim237]

Without a separate receiver, it will be disconnected.

[Tusv]

Judging by the three ammunition in the photo, the device is quite heavily armed. With our weapons will be twice as deadly.
I hope this is a worthy response of the Emirates to the development of our Shell

[quote]

Quote: Tusv

I hope this is a worthy response of the Emirates to the development of our Shell

My brain "boiled", trying to find the meaning of this sentence. And hope, yours, in what?

[Tusv]

Quote: devis

My brain began to boil, trying to find the meaning of this sentence.

So my wife yesterday uttered a brilliant phrase to me: "I understand that there is nothing, but try to understand that ..." - further personal
The carapace is the development and support of our defense industry from scratch for the Emirates.
This bird can carry a lot of ammunition.
So see?

[quote]

Quote: Tusv

So my wife yesterday uttered a brilliant phrase to me: "I understand that there is nothing, but try to understand that ..." - further personal

Your wife knows better.

Quote: Tusv

And your hope, in what?

Keep talking.

[Tusv]

Quote: devis

Keep talking.

Professionally or for the pros?
EPR is low. Arming three decent missiles. Continue to continue?

[Dezinto]

Judging by the military news, it’s going to war, urgently introducing new types of equipment, upgrading the old one ... I'm certainly not a fortuneteller or alarmist, I just don’t know where to get the ammunition and weapons for ammunition .... I’ll probably collect shells in the rear -This is also an important matter.

They say the third world war is not possible because there is a yo ... but why the hell is Germany throwing 4000 soldiers into the Baltic countries?

The Americans brought tanks into Latvia and Estonia, of course, about ten little things, well, tomorrow twenty .... Ukraine was pissed off to us .... since everything would be done to begin with.

Another question is still bang? .... well then all tryndets all ....

[lelikas]

Quote: DEZINTO

I just don’t know where to get the ammunition and the weapons for the ammunition ....

Will be issued from the storage warehouse.

[Dezinto]

Will be issued from the warehouse

Together with weapons and uniforms ... well, I do not mind ... a brief briefing on the conduct of the battle .... and on the road.

But if the yars fly, and the minitudemen are on their side .... then no uniform will help here. We wrap ourselves in a white sheet and lie with our feet in the direction of the flash.

[Vadim237]

Warheads only for military installations will fly at the rate of 2 warheads per object - after nuclear strikes, the population will need gas masks and overalls, and everything else: generators, food, medicine, equipment, etc., are in the warehouses of the Federal Reserve.

[SCHWERIN]

The US itself will not climb, it’s afraid to directly attack, it may receive a nuclear response. But they can use the most frostbitten - dill, it is not in vain that Petro repeats about our troops on the outskirts. But there are also problems. Poles with the Baltic states may also, but oligophrenics M. and O. are unlikely to be happy about this. But a tactical war with Russia by the wrong hands will benefit the States. Now they are looking for a new Mishiko, who will do it without looking back.

[sergey2017]

We don’t learn from old mistakes! They began to forget about the French Mistrals! We learned how to produce the best modern combat aircraft in the world, but we can’t do an unmanned aerial vehicle! Absurdity!

[lelikas]

Quote: sergey2017

Absurd!

I’ll add from myself - releasing Flights and Swifts, so roll back .....

[Pvi1206]

It was to what extent self-esteem had to be reached in order for Russia to buy aviation equipment from the UAE !?
Most likely this is a political step aimed at strengthening the position of our country in the Arab world ...

[Tusv]

Quote: sergey2017

We learned how to produce the best modern combat aircraft in the world, but we can’t do an unmanned aerial vehicle! Absurdity!

In the last century, Vickers and Christie bought it. We scratched the turnips, some garbage turns out. Caterpillar fingers - Kaka, weapons - like, armor - like None of this. And they created the T-34 (a brief history of Russian tank construction in my performance)

[Arktidianets]

We have survived, we are buying UAVs from camel-eaters, a disgrace!

[quote]

Quote: Arctidian

We have survived, we are buying UAVs from camel-eaters, a disgrace!

In general, my jaw dropped from this news.

[V.ic]

Quote: Arctidian

camel-eaters

.. have a camel lover ..

[godofwar6699]

Quote: ultra

Make and experience different concepts.

[wow]

"wing of the big DELETE", stunned! maybe EXTENSIONS after all !?

[Saints]

Quote: yo-mine

can still lengthen!!?

Yes, there is still no deletion. This tandem wing is located not as in a biplane one above the other with a small horizontal discharge, but horizontally spaced apart from each other.

[family tree]

Quote: Svetoch

This is a tandem wing

And what for? Well, at the dawn of aviation, it was necessary to squeeze out the horse engines drop by drop, it was decided that due to the planes the lift would increase, so the resistance increased, and again the drag power of the engine, and even the rear wing in hell knows which turbulent from the front S-shaped profile, well, it's probably so that the turbulence from the front to the back is smaller, and from the back to the keel
In, Ukrainians Arabs shod, four-winged S-obraz! Do we also have defective managers in military aviation rule?

[ILDM1986]

Quote: perepilka

Quote: Svetoch

This is a tandem wing

And what for? Well, at the dawn of aviation, it was necessary to squeeze out the horse engines drop by drop, it was decided that due to the planes the lift would increase, so the resistance increased, and again the drag power of the engine, and even the rear wing in hell knows which turbulent from the front S-shaped profile, well, it's probably so that the turbulence from the front to the back is smaller, and from the back to the keel
In, Ukrainians Arabs shod, four-winged S-obraz! Do we also have defective managers in military aviation rule?

Dear, enable the logic. rejection of the biplane occurred because the Fighter needed high speeds with low (at that time) engine power. Why should a reconnaissance / bomber reduce air resistance? It's not a fighter! he doesn’t need high speed, he needs the longest possible time of work and the greatest payload — for this he needs a large surface of the wings and the most favorable s-shaped aerodynamic profile of the body and wings (of course, you can only guess about the profile of the wings, but most likely they are either convex-concave or also s-shaped). The wide wings, characteristic of bombers and transporters, are difficult to put on it because of the strong curvature of the hull; apparently, it was easier for the designers to put 4 long hulls spaced along the length to increase stability in flight. By the way, the hind wings replace the tail. so there’s some kind of chimera, it’s not like a biplane in its pure form, but it’s clearly not a monoplane either.
PS for reference: the s-shaped profile gives the largest lifting force of the practically applicable, but more fragile, respectively, is used only in gliders and other machines not designed for high-speed maneuvering and heavy weight load.

[WE ARE MAKING]

Shoved through the rollback again

[vv3]

This is a toy for plugging holes. We need UAVs for targeting ground based weapons and not only. We need UAVs for integration into our information system. These can’t be bought, the sooner our ADVANCED strategists will understand, the better. Let our poor ones, but integrated with their equipment, which can be developed and improved. Use an open architecture and build opportunities. There is no other way. When these idiots will understand and accept the concept of creation information system, this issue has not been raised, but should be adopted yesterday !!!

[akims]

Under the Union, UAV developments were mainly carried out by KhAI. It is necessary to clarify where these developments are now?

[Bradypodidae]

100 hours of battery life !!!! 4 suspension points + bomb bay !!!! Only for these indicators, you can forgive this UAV for all its other shortcomings and appearance including.

[family tree]

Quote: Bradypodidae

100 hours of battery life !!!!

This machine, though manned, circled the globe in nine days, without landing and refueling

[NordUral]

Are you de_bili? Again abroad, and even with a "great" aviation power. Words are gone.
And further. Yesterday, at Roman Babayan, an Iranian said bluntly why Iran was abandoning our tanks, etc. - are outdated and do not correspond. Stop bragging, open the eyes of the rulers of Russia, get involved in the real business and development of the country. There is a collapse, and you tell us about mythical, mostly grandiose successes.

[Bradypodidae]

India buys and still wants, but are outdated for Iran? Or maybe the Persians puff out their cheeks to bring down the price and negotiate more favorable conditions for themselves?

[Verdun]

“Tests of the Emirate UAV United 40 began at the State Flight Test Center (GLIC) of the Russian Ministry of Defense named after Chkalov”

Testing is normal. It is never harmful to familiarize yourself with what other developers are doing. It allows you to improve your own technique, learning from strangers, and not from your mistakes.

[gladysheff2010]

Too many pseudo-designers have appeared recently, trying to modernize or create something, especially if you believe the magazines. However, at the exit, only those who were directly related to the defense industry of the USSR times, directly or indirectly, demonstrate success. with an obviously ostentatious patriotism and a lack of engineering development. Apparently a sign of the times, one would like to hope: "And this will pass."

[family tree]

And what is the meaning of the S-shaped fuselage?

[ILDM1986]

Apparently the gain in lift is on the rear concave-convex part, the force is directed from top to bottom, respectively, the body lifts up as if (unless of course the center of gravity is correctly selected ), the angle of attack increases, and accordingly, the lifting force of the front, convex-concave, part of the hull increases even more - this is how we were explained in a simple way in childhood on an aircraft model circle, though about the wing profile of gliders, but the principle is the same.

[am808s]

From the good but the stranger closer to his good than from his bad.

[Seryikit]

Looks like someone got a good rollback for this order

[IrOqUoIs]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: svp67

Christie was actually an AMERICAN.

What is there about Christie left besides the suspension?

Quote: svp67

trilinear with berdank
I have not heard more delirium. They even have a different caliber.

Both of them have a longitudinally sliding shutter, if compared with Berdan-2, and nothing at all with Berdan-1.

Quote: svp67

Kalash from German stg Another nonsense.

Well, you, colleague, are all nonsense, but nonsense, they are similar in appearance.

Cars, too, are all similar in appearance since everything is known about the four wheels, and the tanks on all of the tracks are similar in appearance. But the planes, wah, all with wings, edrits madrite, do not indicate external resemblance as a sign of remodeling the only true one. It’s ridiculous.

[Zomanus]

Roundworm with wings.)))
Most likely, they would buy ours to learn from it.
We have, as far as I remember. a problem with engines for small aircraft.
Therefore, there are no "corn workers" with domestic engines yet.

[Romin]

What a disgrace . 2016 we buy UAVs from the emirates ... PPC. And at the same time we hammer money into Rosnano and other crap. A moment ago, the concept "Scud" was presented, so Poghosyan flunked it. What the ... we have?

[Bradypodidae]

A MiG can hold out for 100 hours in the air? And can it patrol over a certain area? An instant shock UAV. And an Emirates multi-profile. Attach containers with electronic warfare equipment and 100 hours of "enlightenment" to it for potential friends. This, for example.

[bad]

Why do we need Arab drones? and who benefits from this?

[Vadim237]

The conclusion is simple - our army needs UAVs right now.

[svp67]

Quote: Vadim237

The conclusion is simple - our army needs UAVs right now.

The conclusion is not true. Our army needs such UAVs YESTERDAY.

[Vadim237]

The need for them has become acute only now.

[CAH4OYC]

can be in the air for more than 100 hours. "

This is of course cool!

[31rus2]

Dear ones, this is precisely the double impression, if we are really on the brink of war, then what issues to buy, as much as possible everywhere, a replica for plugging holes is not appropriate, but if this is just this momentary bliss, then you need to plant, regardless of rank and position , in fact, this shows how import substitution works for us, and in the most important military sector, there is another option, the purchase and transfer to another country

[vglazunov]

Sadness, the Bedouins can make such aircraft, and according to the news, Russia together Zimbabwe save the economy. What regression has come to.

[senima56]

Quote: cniza

Quote: Observer2014

Interestingly, and that such "Humpbacked Skates" can not be done at home?

He is also interested in this issue, we are developing the sixth generation ... and where are the domestic developments ?, I do not believe that they are not there, what could be the reason?

A few years ago, it was reported that Transas and Sokol had begun developing an attack UAV. And where are the results? And where is the money that the state (and the people) allocated for this work? Or maybe this is a convenient position - to regularly receive funds supposedly for development and pull, pull .... And then, as in a joke: "Well, it didn't work out!" Let's buy from Israel or from the UAE! And this is in our country, where "Il" s, "Tu", "Yak" and .... It's a shame, gentlemen, comrades!

[mark_rod]

Quote: NordUral

But we must apply the method of Comrade. Stalin to such promises. And not to engineers and workers, but to those who steal and stirs up.

First, it is necessary to seriously dilute United Russia into the State Duma by other parties so that they do not have a monopoly on power, otherwise they will only lobby for their own interests and only their members!

[vglazunov]

As Putin said, Russian politics needs “new blood”. Just didn’t specify which group, according to custom, the blood of the Russian people or oligarchs and crooks ...

[Unexpected]

We, with our military-industrial complex, have to go down to the drone from Easter Island. I have been associated with military aviation since 1969 and have never heard of such a well-known aviation company. You need to get fucked and completely lose your self-esteem. The next test sample is expected from the Tuareg. Their model will be double-humped.

[Bradypodidae]

But who cares where this company comes from? Yes, Arabs and what? There is only Arab address and loot, but brains and technologies from all over the world. Well, Global Hawk and Super Heron will not be sold for Russia. To develop it yourself? Great idea , they will only come up with a new domestic UAV in 10 years, and the army will be saturated in another 10 years, but what to do all this time? And if the declared characteristics are really confirmed, then this is a suitable device that will be acquired (license) for inexpensively. Why are you not indignant that Russia buys ship engines from the Chinese. When they wanted to buy the Mistral, everyone shouted Why? !!!!! We could build as well !!!! The Mistrals were just thinking about buying, and I. Gren was more than The Mistrals have already been built, they have even managed to change the owners. Yopta, where is Vanya Gren ?????? But again there are models (by the way, the quality of performance) of new ships. Avalanche, Surf. All beautiful, just like them will build if they cannot transfer "I. Gren" to the fleet? 50 "Surf" in 1 years? That's the same story with the UAV.

[kmv.km]

Well, why is it so "cool" ...

After all, we are cooperating with Israel on the UAV and "Outpost", including, etc ... And the Result is Obvious !!!

Of course, Dozor-600 is conditionally "super" ... But where is he NOW? On Crazy Potsreotic UAV ratings?
Yes, there he "steers, reconnoiters, targets and directs," even "shoots and bombs" ....

But if the Real Next Level UAVs, which the UAE can provide as well, (everyone has forgotten about the sanctions on high-tech equipment and technology), then I’m only FOR !!!

[Alex_good]

Oh well, they’ll study the software, they will buy samples, this is a normal market overview. We will make our corn barn with Glonass and autopilot. I'm not a pro, but I think that the technology of autonomous drones is available even to modelers, and the rivalry of military technology in the air is in on-board equipment, electronics, software, and materials. You can enjoy such a beautiful glass fabric and epoxy body even in the garage, and it will fly as long as necessary. If we have problems or shortcomings, then somewhere in the on-board software, and even then this is an eternal process.

And in general, the main TECHNICAL problem of Russian defense developments is the same as in the rest of our industry: robots (unlucky people) still do not work.

But why I do not do and do not introduce industrial robots, I do not understand.

Although, it must be admitted that technical problems are only a consequence of ineffective management and marketing, and maybe SB. I assure you, behind these terrible words are hiding the sciences necessary for the production, and public opinion is set up against them on purpose. The fifth column from education in action: offsets for money and a fictitious education in general (I don’t know how it is now, but it was ten years ago).

And without truly effective management and marketing, monsters are not obtained products.

Conclusion: everything rests on education and effective punishment for sabotage at all stages from the department to military use. It is necessary to imprison people more often, but so that convicts do not go out of prison, but effective managers who are ready for work =)

Innovative prisons are what Russia needs! =) clean and with compulsory interactive education on monitors and an introduction to modern work, do not sew quilted jackets, but learn to make a modern S-shaped body design ... jokes with jokes, but in reality it will be better for everyone.

[kmv.km]

If it is so easy to make or "zababahat" in the Russian Garage, then why has it not been "FUN" so far?

To make under license (or copy) the Products of the Tuareg, Jews, Arabs, if these Products can be useful or serve as a basis for their subsequent Products - This is NOT SHAME-SHAME, but REASONABLE !!! even if the Products "three or four - humpbacked" Will be!

The best consultant is the Chinese "ally" ...

Li-2, Tu-4 - Is it a Shame ?, NO, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN AND NEED TO BE Proud !!! And Tu-16, 160, Ilya, if there is a Will of leadership, will also APPEAR !!!

And what about innovative prisons ... Well, who, how ... I would agree to change my Lagoon for a "penny" or "Moskvich-412" or for the Full Use of Public Transport, and I would even be ready to go to Shinelka, by the way I remember About Her with Warmth from the Service (I would not change Her for a pea jacket !!!) BUT UNDER ONE CONDITION !!! -
If Fathers and VVP agree to ride the Zilah, at least, and not the Maybach and maybachs.

But They - DO NOT AGREE !!!