Mission Impossible, or State Defense Order in Russia

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Mission Impossible, or State Defense Order in Russia The program for the purchase and development of military equipment for the Russian army, adopted at 2006, was not implemented at all points. Therefore, the Government was forced to adopt 24 February 2011, the new program GW-2020.

But if you do not take into account the reasons for the failure of the previous HPV-2015, the state defense order may be disrupted this time.

In 2006, it was planned to finance the re-equipment of Russian power structures worth over 4 trillion rubles. About 75% of this amount was planned to be spent on the purchase of new military equipment in almost the entire range of weapons:

strategic nuclear forces:
- 8 submarine missile carriers of the new generation (the Borey project);
- 34 mine and 66 soil launch complexes.
ground troops:
- 1400 tanks;
- 60 missile systems;
- 18 anti-aircraft missile battalions (C-400);
- The regiment of gun and missile systems;
- 2 regiment of multiple launch rocket systems;
- 166 thousand cars;
- 350 pcs. BMPT "Frame";
- 600 pcs. Armored personnel carrier;
- Smerch 2 system.
Air Force:
- 64 fighter;
- 58 bombers;
- 200 attack aircraft;
- 102 helicopter.
VDV:
- 57 anti-tank guns;
- 500 armored personnel carriers (Cockleshell);
- 400 BMD
Navy:
- 2 submarine;
- 4 diesel submarines;
- 12 warships;
- 5 boats;
- coastal defense complexes.

The main reason for the disruption of government procurement of weapons became the contradictions between the industrialists (Suppliers) and the Ministry of Defense (Customer).

Position of the suppliers.

A wonderful new tank support vehicle (code name “Frame”) has been created at the Urals factory. As tests have shown, it effectively hits tanks, helicopters, low-flying aircraft and virtually any highly protected targets. Uses the anti-tank missiles "Attack", controlled by a laser beam. One BMPT is capable of covering three tanks in battle. The machine is exported only. The Russian army, it was not claimed.

In preparation for the international exhibition at the Nizhny Tagil proving ground, a rehearsal of samples of military equipment planned for the show was held. All Russian armored vehicles and cars have passed the test without comment, but the Italian “Lynx” is firmly stuck in the test strip obstacles. And when this foreign model was shown to the Russian prime minister, an Italian armored car did not pass the test track, but drove along with it, which can be safely described as a fraud. Despite this embarrassment, officials of the Ministry of Defense continue to insist on the purchase of this "parquet" military equipment. At the same time, on a proactive basis, machine-makers from Arzamas created an armored car (Tiger-6), which by security is much higher than the Italian model. The proposal of the Ministry of Defense specialists to carry out the licensed assembly of the Italian model LMV M65 at KAMAZ is not sustainable, since the assembly uses parts and spare parts from different manufacturers: Italian-made units, German and Dutch armor, American engines, and obtaining all necessary licenses from foreign manufacturers is problematic . The acquisition by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation of the Russian armored vehicle "Tigr" is the least expensive and profitable deal for the industrial-military complex of Russia. The approval of representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry on the use of technology of the Italian armored car to create a Russian promising model of the Boomerang armored personnel carrier does not hold water, since it is a question of military equipment not only of different classes, but also of purpose.

A difficult situation has arisen with the delivery of military equipment to the army. Without waiting for the completion of the Russian “Warrior” kit, the Ministry of Defense is considering the possibility of acquiring French-made kits. According to the information received from open sources, the Russian development has better characteristics than foreign equipment, in terms of weight, communication range, accuracy of establishing coordinates, battery life, availability of a search mode.

The initiative of the Novosibirsk instrument-making plant did not receive support from the Ministry of Defense; weapons using the latest research scientists in the field of thermal imaging technology.

Arms manufacturers reasonably believe that, due to unsystematic and ill-conceived reforming of the army, there is a situation when there are no specialists in the Ministry of Defense capable of competently preparing and approving tactical and economic documentation for creating samples of new equipment. In this connection, the military officials have "great love" for foreign military equipment. Thus, they are trying to hide their miscalculations and their inability to create a constructive and effective approach to the implementation of the state rearmament program. This leads to the fact that promising developments are not funded, and the available latest or successfully modified domestic equipment is subject to unreasonable criticism.

Ministry of Defense officials are not fulfilling the presidential instructions to restrict the purchase of foreign-made military equipment. The acquisition of non-Russian equipment in a small volume should be carried out only in order to familiarize the Russian military with the equipment of foreign armies.

The conclusion of a contract for the construction of a combat training center worth more than 100 million euros with a German company deprived Russian organizations of a profitable order, which could perform this task better than a foreign contractor. The use of budgetary funds to support foreign manufacturers and contractors during the global financial crisis is aimed at the destruction of its own defense industry complex. AT stories There have been cases in Russia where foreign models of military equipment were used to create their own models of weapons, but only in those areas in which lag was observed. Re-equipment of the army on the basis of foreign military equipment will lead to military-technical lag of Russian enterprises, deprivation of qualified personnel, reduction of jobs and unjustified budget expenses due to the non-transparent level of purchasing prices for foreign-made equipment.

At the same time, the military-industrial complex of Russia is able to develop, manufacture and supply to the country's armed forces the necessary modern military equipment in the required quantity. To do this, find a compromise solution on the terms of financing, the parameters of equipment and the price of supplies between manufacturers and the state customer.

The statement of the Ministry of Defense that industrialists do not know how to work in a market environment, but rely solely on state defense orders, is not objective. Many industrial enterprises have contracts for the export of their products. The fact is that contracts with foreign suppliers are concluded at a market price, but from a Russian manufacturer, the State customer requires the delivery of military equipment at a fixed price that does not take into account inflation and constantly rising production costs due to an increase in the cost of materials, components and resources.

Customer position

The leadership of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces believes that Russian armaments are significantly inferior to foreign analogues.

According to a military official, for example, the Israeli tank Merkava MkIV has a greater firing range than the Russian T-90. But this conclusion is made without taking into account the type of ammunition used and the different testing conditions of the two samples. In reality, all the parameters of the T-90 are better than those of the Israeli combat vehicle, and the T-90 is more adapted to Russian conditions of operation. The disadvantages of the Merkava MkIV tank are too large combat weight, operation exclusively in the subtropical zone at a temperature not lower than 5 degrees, high cost of the machine, also requires the use of an expensive active protection system, and when firing at a distance more than 6 km, the requirement to use external laser illumination.

Another well-known fact confirms the lack of an Israeli tank: the untrained handling of Russian P-29 grenade launchers by Hezbollah militants managed to destroy 46 Merkava tanks in a relatively short time. By the way, the Russian Armed Forces do not have these wonderful Russian-made P-29 grenade launchers - the army does not buy them and they are only exported.

The Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces argues that all models of military equipment manufactured by industry are morally obsolete and are only modified versions of Soviet weapons. Since the GWP-2015 rearmament program failed, this position looks like an excuse for the lack of new weapons in the ground forces and the rationale for making decisions on the purchase of foreign military equipment.

The head of the General Staff, as a customer, decided to purchase Italian armored vehicles LMV M65 codenamed “Lynx” without taking into account the fact that the domestic industry produces a combat reconnaissance vehicle (codenamed BRM-3K) with the same name but more adapted to Russian conditions. At the joint field tests of the Italian armored car LMV M65 and the Russian armored vehicle “Tigr”, the foreign model, through 10 meters, got bogged down in the snow and got off the track, and the Russian combat vehicle passed the entire obstacle course safely.

It must be admitted that in many types of weapons there is a lag in the Russian defense industry complex. The Ministry of Defense believes that in the field of tank manufacturing, helicopter construction and in models of small arms Russia lags behind such producing countries as the USA, China and Israel.

Russian manufacturers explain this with outdated material and technical base, lack of qualified personnel, customer’s violation of financing schedules, delay in payment of already supplied equipment, failure to conclude long-term contracts for the supply of military equipment.

These circumstances do not allow defense enterprises to carry out effective business planning, conduct an optimal monetary policy, and conduct training of personnel.

The Ministry of Defense is not satisfied that industrial enterprises hide the detailed composition of production costs. Because of this, the state customer is not able to accurately establish the purchase price for each type of military equipment. The state customer in the person of the Ministry of Defense believes that the cost of weapons of domestic production is higher than the price of foreign analogues and that the products of the Russian military-industrial complex are not competitive.

Results

While there are “disassembly” between the customer and manufacturers, the Russian army does not receive new equipment, the military-industrial complex suffers losses, the state order is not fulfilled.

Revitalization of the rearmament process is vital for the security forces of Russia. In order to accomplish this task, it will be necessary to reorganize not only the military-industrial complex, but also change the work of all customers in the area of ​​placing the state defense order.

It is planned that a scheme will be developed for the merger of defense enterprises into holdings, which will include not only manufacturers of final products, but also suppliers of raw materials and materials. Thus, pricing and the possibility of quality control at all stages of production will be facilitated. Customers will be entitled to take into account the profit of industrial holdings when determining purchase prices. The value of profit is a very important indicator. Since it affects the profitability of any production and the possibility of technical re-equipment of military-industrial complex enterprises.

Support for a Russian arms manufacturer, even if the price of final products is higher than for similar foreign equipment, will give the Russian military industrial complex a chance to subsequently equip the army with exclusively modern Russian-made weapons.

It is also necessary to legislate a state system of strategic planning in the field of creating new weapons, to develop legal acts approving the procedure for conducting procurement as part of the implementation of state plans to re-equip Russian law enforcement agencies.
Defense ordered? Special Report by E. Poddubny

The conflict over the state defense order of this year was perhaps the most public and protracted dispute between the military and industrialists. The Ministry of Defense hopes that the representatives of the plants will have less excuses and more new developments. Industrialists hope for timely payment and constructive dialogue with the military.

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  1. vadimus
    +1
    17 December 2011 09: 10
    When the military-industrial complex worked for the state, then everything was in openwork! Can leave some components on a competitive basis and scope of services to private owners? And then things are still there ...
    1. KGB161rus
      0
      17 December 2011 11: 27
      When the military-industrial complex worked for the state


      No, I do not agree, I am glad that the times when the state thrust its "snout" into all sectors are beginning to pass, it is better to give money, and let the military-industrial complex hire and look for professionals.
      1. +3
        17 December 2011 12: 15
        , I am glad that those times are beginning to pass when the state poked its "snout" into all industries - then there was a fleet, and an atomic umbrella, and there were no losses in space. I served on the Tu-16 K10, we went to Iceland. The regiment was on duty every three months.
        1. KGB161rus
          -2
          17 December 2011 17: 08
          The regiment was on duty every three months.


          Well, it’s not a secret to anyone that in the USSR the defense industry came first (of course, spending on it), so we refuse to modernize the economy, or health care, etc., the defense spending also depends on the first, now politics is such that they are trying to distribute the money equally.
  2. Anatoly
    +11
    17 December 2011 09: 18
    Yes, they are just saboteurs in the Ministry of Defense! here is the answer to any "disruption of the defense order"! So blatant theft and stupidity of the leadership that you really think about the Chinese scheme - shoot and shoot.
    Now it’s been a couple of years and the state order will be completely disrupted. Do not go to a fortuneteller.
    1. +3
      17 December 2011 09: 31
      How is it possible?! To shoot thieves and traitors?! And how the West will look at it, and suddenly scolded belay
      1. Anatoly
        +4
        17 December 2011 09: 51
        And we will shrug our hands and say that they hindered the development of democracy in the country lol
        1. +2
          17 December 2011 10: 01
          Well, if something like this, then yes.
          1. +1
            17 December 2011 12: 15
            Why spend ammo on these critters? Especially for them to restore the Gulag. At least some benefit!
            1. Anatoly
              +1
              17 December 2011 12: 26
              Or uranium mines. die with good.
            2. -1
              17 December 2011 16: 08
              And do not spend on cartridges. In China, the cost of a cartridge is paid by the relatives of the executed.
  3. +3
    17 December 2011 09: 32
    The leadership of the Ministry of Defense should be sent to a tribunal, without lawyers and other human rights defenders ...
  4. Styx
    +1
    17 December 2011 09: 43
    They don’t give a damn about the country for a long time - just to fill their pockets. It's a shame that in our country there is such an illiterate leadership of Moscow Region.
  5. marauder
    +5
    17 December 2011 09: 48
    Any housewife already understands that the leadership of Moscow Oblast, headed by Serdyukov, works for Pindos. Their main goal is to weaken the Russian army as much as possible. To make it convenient for Pindos to ruin and occupy Russia. Let’s hope that the next president will expel these NATO philosophers.
  6. TAMERLAN
    -1
    17 December 2011 10: 09
    you need to return the defense plants to the government system and all orders will be fulfilled on time and efficiently
  7. dred
    +1
    17 December 2011 10: 24
    Of course it is not feasible if there are Serdyukov.
    1. Artemka
      +1
      23 December 2011 20: 14
      Well, now they put Rogozin in charge of the VPK, maybe he will succeed.
  8. +7
    17 December 2011 10: 56
    In general, the article is correct, but let's not distort the facts.
    According to a military official, for example, the Israeli Merkava MkIV tank has a greater firing range than the Russian T-90. But this conclusion is made without taking into account the type of ammunition used and the various testing conditions of the two samples.

    Just the same with modern ammunition. The Lahat rocket launched through the barrel hits at 8 km, confidently hitting any tank at 6 km from the first shot.

    Actually, all the parameters of the T-90 are better than the parameters of the Israeli combat vehicle, and the T-90 is more adapted to Russian operating conditions.

    There are better options, and there are worse.

    The disadvantages of the Merkava MkIV tank are too much combat weight, operation exclusively in the subtropical zone at a temperature not lower than 5 degrees, the high cost of the machine, the use of an expensive active protection system is also required, and when firing at a distance of more than 6 km, the requirement to use external laser illumination.



    The heavy weight is a drawback, however, the tank is operated not only in the subtropics. For example, in the Golan Heights, the temperature drops below 5 degrees, and the mud and slush resembles the European part of Russia. Naturally, the tank was not designed for operation in the extreme regions of the north. The cost of the machine is generally not correct to compare, it is necessary to compare the complexity in man-hours. Pay hard workers and engineers as much as in Israel and I doubt that the T-90 will be cheaper. Are expensive active defense systems required by ANY tank or does the T-90 hold the Cornet?

    Another well-known fact confirms the lack of an Israeli tank: the untrained handling of Russian P-29 grenade launchers by Hezbollah militants managed to destroy 46 Merkava tanks in a relatively short time. By the way, the Russian Armed Forces do not have these wonderful Russian-made P-29 grenade launchers - the army does not buy them and they are only exported.


    Be so kind as to share the information source of this "known fact".
    I have the following data:
    * 45 tanks were hit by ATGMs and RPG grenades, all in all, 51 rocket hit the tanks.
    * In 24 cases (47% of the number of hits), the cumulative jet penetrated the armor of tanks, apparently in 3 cases of these 24 tanks detonated the ammunition.
    * In total, about 60 BTT units received combat damage, including 48-52 tank. 5 tanks were irretrievably lost - 3 from ATGM hits (one each Merkava Mk.2, MK.3 and MK.4) and 2 from HE explosions (one Merkava MK.2 and MK.4).
    * Killed 31 fighter of armored forces, incl. 30 Tankers. In addition, another 4 soldier - 3 in the D9 and 1 bulldozers in the heavy Puma armored personnel carrier, died from ATGM hits in the BTT.
    * Merkava tanks, especially the latest MK.4 tanks, showed excellent resistance to combat defeats. On average, in each tank whose armor was broken, an 1 tanker was killed, and the ammunition, apparently, detonated only in the 3 tanks of the 24 broken.

    Irrecoverable losses - 5 tanks:
    1. 12 of July - “Merkava” MK.2, a land mine, 4 of the dead;
    2. 24 of July - “Merkava” MK.4 (tank battalion), land mine, 1 dead;
    3. 9 of August - “Merkava” MK.2, ATGM (or land mine, and then ATGM), 4 of the dead;
    4. 12 of August - “Merkava” MK.3, ATGM (or ATGM, and then a land mine), 4 dead.
    5. 12 of August - “Merkava” MK.4 (“Koah Banaya”), ATGM, 4 of the dead.


    1. -1
      17 December 2011 20: 31
      I wouldn’t use the term tank to merkava. It’s more like a hybrid of a tank and an infantry fighting vehicle. In fact, it’s a heavy infantry fighting vehicle with a tank turret bolted. Although I pay tribute to the security system. Especially the fire fighting system.
  9. -1
    17 December 2011 10: 56
    "While there is a showdown between the customer and the manufacturers, the Russian army does not receive new equipment, the military-industrial complex suffers losses, and the state order is not fulfilled."
    what did the author smoke?
  10. 0
    17 December 2011 11: 58
    I liked the article. Probably because I also made the same conclusions as the author draws. I believe that the greed of our leaders to receive huge kickbacks and cuts leads to the fact that we are losing our defense industry.
    I do not agree that some bloggers are trying to introduce the Minister of Defense and the chief of the General Staff as the main culprits for the disruption of the GPV-2015 program. They are performers. The policy pursued in relation to the army and the military-industrial complex comes from Putin and Medvedev.
    Why is the military-industrial complex purposefully weakened? In order to make it easier to carry out the privatization of military-industrial complex objects. Despite the devastation, these are very large volumes. It is no coincidence that Rogozin is also connected to work. But not to strengthen the military-industrial complex, but to determine the order of sales ... Widespread coverage of these events in the media hinders the implementation of their plans.
    1. -1
      17 December 2011 17: 29
      Quote: piston.k
      Why is the military-industrial complex purposefully weakened? In order to make it easier to carry out the privatization of military-industrial complex objects. Despite the devastation, these are very large volumes. It is no coincidence that Rogozin is also connected to work. But not to strengthen the military-industrial complex, but to determine the order of sales ... Widespread coverage of these events in the media hinders the implementation of their plans.

      Well, Rogozin also dragged ...
      If this were the goal, then we would no longer have any military-industrial complex. it would be enough to ban the delivery of equipment abroad (under any plausible pretext) and just do nothing in relation to these enterprises, everything would fall apart by itself. But we see that the enterprises of the military-industrial complex are still preserved, they are working, new equipment is entering the army. Yes, the material base is outdated, but funds and time are needed for modernization, such issues are not resolved in a year.
    2. -1
      17 December 2011 20: 26
      And also as an answer to the piston about the military-industrial complex: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=jmrzWpktpAU

      In general, it is better to see all the series. You can fuck.
  11. 32167
    +3
    17 December 2011 12: 34
    The problem is clearly in the officials responsible for the development of the military-industrial complex.
    I am sure solar Magadan will dramatically change the quality of work for most of them.
  12. +4
    17 December 2011 14: 54
    In general, all this mouse fuss around the military-industrial complex looks extremely unworthy and stupid. You can say the theater of the absurd. The ranks of the Ministry of Defense, instead of clearly articulating their requirements for technology, make faces like girls and fan hysteria in the media, which is unacceptable. These figures look like complete idiots and amateurs. It is simply impossible to say such things publicly. If there are shortcomings in technology, you need to point to them and demand their elimination, but not through the media. The country's leadership, which does not respond to the tricks of its subordinates, also looks silly. At the same time, they want to be elected to lead the country further. It's time to stop this circus.
  13. -1
    17 December 2011 15: 49
    What to do with the workers of the military-industrial complex? Where to get them? There was the WTO there, competition will say and our military-industrial complex will swallow. Another hotbed of tension, not good. Here is the policy of the current government. Everything is done only for the rich and bureaucrats.
    1. 0
      17 December 2011 17: 30
      Tell us more about the WTO and the military-industrial complex.
  14. 0
    17 December 2011 20: 02
    Strange all this everyone knows and doesn’t do anything, so it should no longer go on. If the General Staff continues to criticize and not support domestic weapons, then our specialists and bright heads will go abroad and will produce the best weapons there, as if this would not be desirable.
  15. +1
    17 December 2011 21: 34
    Under Stalin, the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff would have been leaning against the wall for a long time.
  16. 0
    24 December 2014 14: 12
    Failure of state defense order + purchase of foreign weapons = high treason.