A Pentagon source confirms the creation of a new ICBM by the North Koreans

The DPRK has indeed created a new mobile-based intercontinental missile capable of striking the United States, The Washington Free Beacon reported, citing a Pentagon source.

ICBM KN-08

"North Korea has developed a new mobile-based ICBM KN-14, which was another step of the country's leader Kim Jong-un to create missiles with nuclear warheads capable of striking the continental United States," the newspaper quotes the source. Look.

According to him, "the new missile replaced the mobile-based KN-08 ICBM, which became known in 2012." At the same time, the source noted that the North Koreans "did not test either one or the other missiles."

"KN-14 is a modernized version of KN-08," added the source.

He noted that American intelligence reported about the new missile quite recently - in mid-March.

Last year, KN-14 was shown at a military parade in Pyongyang, but then in the West it was not taken seriously, calling it an ordinary dummy.

And recently, Rick Fisher, a senior researcher at the International Center for Strategies and Assessments, said that "the range of the KN-14 exceeds 10 thousand kilometers."

"Its flight range is enough to hit Chicago (Illinois) or Toronto (Canada, the administrative center of the province of Ontario) after launching from the northernmost point of the DPRK," the expert assured.

“The rapid development of missiles such as the KN-08 and KN-14 shows that Pyongyang is capable of creating even more powerful weapon", - he said.

Comments

[svp67]

“The rapid development of missiles such as the KN-08 and KN-14 shows that Pyongyang is capable of creating even more powerful weapons,” he said.

Well, here's another "horror story" that would knock out money from Congress ... The speed of production and their estimated amount, they do not specify.

[oleg-gr]

A horror story for the FSA authorities and a reason to get closer to China. Building a defense against the North Korean superweapons ...

[Imperialkolorad]

Let the Americans have a headache. They have teased North Korea even though they are trembling now.

[Pavel Tsybai]

Visited there - though a long time ago 22 years ago. The most that confused - COLOR DEN SIGNS. For peasants one and workers, for civil servants another, for the military the next, foreigners separately, according to color. But people who are ready to eat only rice washed down with water cannot do this. Roofing felts the spirit of roofing felts national as we have Russian.

[Nikolay K]

Well, here's another "horror story" that would knock out money from Congress.

Not only the generals, but also Korea itself get the money out of the Congress. She liked the program "help in exchange for the suspension of the nuclear program." True, the help has long been eaten, but nuclear development has not been stopped either. But this time the Americans are screwing up, they realized that they were simply bred for money, and again they do not want to give. So the DPRK has to throw weapons and threaten, but so far stupid. Well, the government of the DPRK, just in case, urged the population to prepare for hunger and postpone 100 kg of food per person for a year.

[0255]

Quote: Nikolai K

Not only the generals, but also Korea itself get the money out of the Congress. She liked the program "help in exchange for the suspension of the nuclear program." True, the help has long been eaten, but nuclear development has not been stopped either. But this time the Americans are screwing up, they realized that they were simply bred for money, and again they do not want to give. So the DPRK has to throw weapons and threaten, but so far stupid. Well, the government of the DPRK, just in case, urged the population to prepare for hunger and postpone 100 kg of food per person for a year.

According to Kim's fans:

[vodolaz]

That's right, confirm everything, otherwise the military budget sawed something. Better yet, say that the rocket can circumnavigate the Earth twice.

[Vladimirets]

"Its flight range is enough to hit Chicago (Illinois) or Toronto (Canada, the administrative center of the province of Ontario) after launching from the northernmost point of the DPRK," the expert assured.

What a serious expert, especially considering that "North Koreans" did not test either one or the other missiles. "

[Blondy]

Quote: Vladimirets

"Its flight range will be enough to hit Chicago (Illinois) or Toronto (Canada, the administrative center of the province of Ontario) after launching from the northernmost point of the DPRK," the expert assured. "

What a serious expert, especially considering that the "North Koreans" did not test either one or the other missile. "

I don’t remember exactly, but in my time under Ogarkov, Chief of the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces, such mock-ups were brought along Red Square, and unofficially such leaks slipped either about five or seven missile defense belts of the USSR, that after the collapse of the USSR from such fakes our "partners" got their eyes on their foreheads. It seems to me that in this case, too, there is a place to preserve the traditions of the Soviet military school.

[larand]

Quote: Blondy

It seems to me that in this case, too, there is a place to preserve the traditions of the Soviet military school.

Well, what are the traditions of the Soviet military school, which you do not remember exactly, but seemed to you.

[Blondy]

Quote: larand

Well, what are the traditions of the Soviet military school, which you do not remember exactly, but seemed to you.

In this case, to demonstrate false models of non-existent products. And I don’t remember exactly the models, which were replaced by fake models. And the number of defense belts is either five or seven. And what I remember exactly is that there were such facts. And that this misinformation defended the country no worse than real products and systems, the embodiment of which in real life would have cost astronomical money, and that this global disinformation was organized by Ogarkov. I hope for your understanding this time.

[WKS]

Now the United States is full of kirdyk, they cannot cope with this missile.

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: wks

Now the United States is full of kirdyk, they cannot cope with this missile.

definitely It's time to pinch. What did Clintons' aunt say about resettlement to Ukraine?

[seti]

I doubt she can fly that much. Most likely, its real figure is lower. But even if 10 can fly by, then where is the guarantee that it will not be knocked down even on approach.

Quote: svp67

“The rapid development of missiles such as the KN-08 and KN-14 shows that Pyongyang is capable of creating even more powerful weapons,” he said.

Well, here's another "horror story" that would knock out money from Congress ... The speed of production, they do not specify.

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimirets

What a serious expert, especially considering that the "North Koreans" did not test either one or the other missile. "

Quote: seti

I doubt she can fly that much. Most likely, its real figure is lower. But even if 10 can fly by, then where is the guarantee that it will not be knocked down even on approach.

Here is ... how you can rely on a rocket without doing comprehensive testing. This is still more reminiscent of a "paper tiger" and everything is going along a clear line - the demonstration of new powerful turbojet engines by the Koreans and this is the news. Otherwise, I do not see this news as knocking out money and a reason for deploying missile defense systems.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: svp67

Otherwise, I do not see this news as knocking out money and a reason for deploying missile defense systems.

Well, judging by the downsides, there are many in VO who either unconditionally believe in the "gloomy North Korean genius" or in American experts.

[Observer2014]

"A Pentagon Source Confirmed The North Koreans Have Created A New ICBM"
Just one question: Is this information today or yesterday? For today is April 2nd.
Believe me, it's hard to believe in this: "North Korea has developed a new mobile-based ICBM KN-14, which was another step of the country's leader Kim Jong-un to create missiles with nuclear warheads capable of striking the continental United States."

[pts-m]

Observer 2014 9:13. Yes, the Pendos from the satellite made out the plates with the performance characteristics, nailed to the ICBM mock-ups, and their alarm rustled in the media.

[Secondly,]

It is felt that the amers are impatient for their "crazy" Koreans to fire at them, and then they will happily test their nuclear weapons on living people for the second time.

[hamadryad]

Quote: seti

I doubt she can fly that much. Most likely her real figure is lower

if a rocket was able to put a satellite into a near-earth orbit, then 10 thousand is more than real. And on approach it is customary to shoot down not missiles, but warheads, which is still an extremely difficult task. In practice, it is almost unsolvable, no matter what Wikipedia says.

[Vadim237]

For the US Navy, all North Korean missiles are a mortal threat, and they also said that North Korea began to develop an analogue of a missile - the Shkval torpedo.

[demiurg]

What mbr? What are 10 thousand km?
The budget is on the way, you need to beg for a little for the defense industry, and we will bring two buses of experts, with pictures and presentations.
Apparently, Eun has something to deliver the bomb to the United States, and not the current missile, which, like the R-7, is fueled at the launch pad. A submarine, most likely.

[Safer]

Well, wait and see. For me, the more powerful enemies the United States has, the better.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Safer

For me, the more powerful enemies the United States has, the better.

Associated with the saying: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," - I will note that the more friends we have.

Concerning:

Well, here's another "horror story" to knock out money from Congress ...

This is another strong argument in favor of the fact that(horseradish) it is necessary to wave nuclear clubs in front of the faces of completely strangers, you can get in response all over the malicious erysipelas physiognomy ...

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: yuriy55

Quote: Safer

For me, the more powerful enemies the United States has, the better.

Associated with the saying: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," - I will note that the more friends we have.

With regard to the UK - not a fact.
The DPRK is not on the list of friends. Rather, in "potential threats".
Anyway, the word "friend" in terms of geopolitics is not applicable, I think. It will be correct "our partners" (c)
But in essence - we are talking about a multipolar world at all venues. Here is another pole drawn.

[Boa kaa]

Eun has a Stalinist approach to the stronghold of imperialism. Therefore, the Ams will think 100 times before doing anything about the DPRK.
And the missile, apparently, is a * flying log *, without modern means of overcoming missile defense. It will be difficult to get such an overseas foe. Moreover, ships of the naval missile defense component with Aegis and SM-3 are deployed off the coast. I'm afraid that under such conditions, KN-14 will not overcome the active section.
And so, well, every state has the right to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity by means available to it.
As the saying goes: "" Chuchhe in their hands! "

[gergi]

A missile defense missile will overcome, it will not overcome, it is not a hunt to test on its precious skin. Maybe Chicago will disappear. Exceptionally exceptional. Decisive people with a nuclear club are a nightmare for the pen.d. of the heroes of the city. Well done Koreans. I wish you success in your fight against Satan.

[hamadryad]

Where does this conclusion come from? The Koreans were able to make ICBMs, but they did not overcome the task of overcoming the missile defense? To make false and maneuvering warheads is a much simpler task. The only real problem is the booster stage, but it can also be solved.

[Vadim237]

Surely China in the 80s transferred them technologies, design documentation and everything else on ICBMs, along with missile defense systems - of that time.

[Bongo]

Quote: Vadim237

Surely China in the 80s transferred them technologies, design documentation and everything else on ICBMs, along with missile defense systems - of that time.

China, like the USSR, refrained from transferring missile and nuclear technologies to the DPRK. The history of North Korean rocketry began in the late 70s after several Soviet OTR R-17s were delivered to the DPRK from Egypt.

[Vadim237]

But then the DPRK began mass production of short- and medium-range missiles, and now they are already making ICBMs, they are probably helping the guys, and not only technically.

[Bongo]

Quote: Vadim237

But then the DPRK began mass production of short- and medium-range missiles, and now they are already making ICBMs, they are probably helping the guys, and not only technically.

Read again:
Nuclear era.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Bongo

Read again:
Nuclear era.

Sergey! Followed your advice. I read it. Received true intellectual pleasure. Thank you so much for your work on this issue.
Sincerely, Boa.

[Bongo]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Sergey! Followed your advice. I read it. Received true intellectual pleasure. Thank you so much for your work on this issue.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Hamadryl

Making dummy and maneuvering warheads is a much easier task.

Dear Hamadryl, he's Kutak Walrus!
There are such Parameters, as the maximum firing range depending on the throw weight. The throw weight. Start weight. Warhead type. And all this is accompanied by strict weight and size requirements. The SPPRO complex is 1/3 of the payload. Of course, if you want to mislead the enemy, and not designate running in place with foil and tin cans.
Then: either Range or UPS Power is sacrificed to the first parameter. Judging by the * pioneer * age of the DPRK's nuclear missile program, I'm not sure that the Range (11000 km) and power (0,5 Mt) of the Nn will allow you to touch it.
Question: What, then, will mislead the AM early warning system?
And then, it is very difficult to make a dummy look like a BB.
About false, maneuvering BG. Make them a difficult and challenging task!
Our ICBMs have already flown, MIRVs plowed the battlefields on the Kura, and only then (!) Did maneuvering BBs appear. The whole point is in the colossal volume of work on thermodynamics, the creation of super-refractory alloys and ceramics, the software of the process, and field research. Remember how D. Rogozin squealed with joy when they passed the state tests.
I have not seen anything like this among the northerners. Therefore, I concluded that they did not have SPPRO on their products.
Perhaps I am wrong. But so much the worse for Yusers and samurai.

[black]

Koreans are not Chinese, but to launch one rocket from a slingshot, the people will have enough. The racket will fly where it is necessary.

[rotmistr60]

So the Koreans need to fly to the United States (this "where do you need"according to your statement.) How then will a citizen under the flag of the United States be mocking?

[hamadryad]

Respect to the plump Bobblehead Eun! Here is a real ruler! Officials do not steal billions from him and then dump them to the West, he does not buy American Treasuries, taking money from his working people, world Zionist Masons do not rule in his country, soldering and drug addiction to the people, he does not bring in millions of supposedly hardworking migrants carrying crime, disease and spreading rot on the indigenous population. And his rating is no higher than that of a galley rower, only the respect and love of the people are real, and not inflated by the Blevada Centers. Along with Iran, one from a few countries, not standing in front of the world hegemon. Glory to the brave Korean people!

[0255]

That's just the "great sun-like" studied in the decaying west in Switzerland, and does not hesitate to accept bourgeois South Korean, Japanese and pindoss humanitarian aid, uses no less pindoss iMac, drives a gay-European Mercedes

[Blondy]

Quote: Hamadryl

Respect to the plump Bobblehead Eun! Here is a real ruler! Officials do not steal billions from him and then dump them to the West, he does not buy American Treasuries, taking money from his working people, world Zionist Masons do not rule in his country, soldering and drug addiction to the people, he does not bring in millions of supposedly hardworking migrants carrying crime, disease and spreading rot on the indigenous population. And his rating is no higher than that of a galley rower, only the respect and love of the people are real, and not inflated by the Blevada Centers. Along with Iran, one from a few countries, not standing in front of the world hegemon. Glory to the brave Korean people!

You probably watch North Korean TV and know Korean?
But what is in Russian, English and other UN languages

Investigating the human rights situation in North Korea, the UN Commission came to the conclusion that North Korean leader Kim Jong-un eclipsed even his father, a famous gourmet and admirer of a beautiful life, for his love of luxury. North Korea spent $ 2012 million on luxury goods in 645,8. Meanwhile, Kim Jong Il spent an average of 330 million on these purposes.

North Korean imports in Eun's first year consisted of dozens of Mercedes-Benz limousines and musical instruments, including dozens of expensive pianos. The UN Commission did not find out how these and other luxury goods got to the DPRK, which, according to UN sanctions, can only be supplied with essential goods and medicines.

Eunwoo's personal cinema for a thousand viewers cost a substantial amount. The authors of the report believe that the North Korean leader is trying to buy the loyalty of his closest aides with expensive gifts and handouts.

One of the defectors told members of the UN Commission that Pyongyang earns currency for the purchase of luxury goods through the illegal trade in alcohol in Muslim countries and the smuggling of ivory from Africa to China.

And billions do not steal because there are enough of them there.

[Wayna qhapaq]

The more missiles North Korea has capable of reaching the United States, the better for us - the more distant is the prospect of "democratizing" the Korean Peninsula by the forces of all kinds of coalitions. We do not need a war at our side. So, success to the engineers of the DPRK in the righteous cause of defending their fatherland. Resident of Primorye.

[Mountain shooter]

And what, the Koreans launched a satellite, generally around the Earth. So it's more complicated than ICBMs. The question is with the efficiency of use, etc., but what will reach it is rather yes than no.
And I don’t believe that several Korean missiles will make the main threat to Matrasia. Russia, from this point of view, is much more terrible. She definitely has - and missiles, and boats, and strategists in the air. And it is even known exactly how many warheads there are. But logic is not available to striped ears. They want a "wow" effect.

[Friends]

If you look at it from the point of view of the DPRK's security, it is an instrument of deterring external aggression - well done guys ...

Last year, KN-14 was shown at a military parade in Pyongyang, but then in the West it was not taken seriously, calling it an ordinary dummy.

Well, yes. How can these natives create something (thought the "best minds" of the United States). Moreover, they have sanctions ... And sanctions, as the beacon of democracy - Barak Khusseinich assures - tear the economy to shreds ...

[SAA]

Ukrainian engineers promise to create something, while Koreans are not promising to create anything. Hike Ukrainian engineers have been working in Korea for a long time.

[Leprekon]

For all the perniciousness of the policy of the next "KIM" for stability on our eastern borders, it is nevertheless pleasing that some countries not only refuse to "stand on their hind legs" in front of the hegemon, but are also able to bite on occasion!

[igorek4515]

Quote: seti

I doubt she can fly that much. Most likely her real figure is lower

Earlier, the Americans generally doubted the ability of the North Koreans to create ICBMs .. Now they admitted .. So the question of doubt is this thing ..

Quote: svp67

Here is ... how you can rely on a rocket without conducting comprehensive testing. This is still more reminiscent of a "paper tiger" and everything is going along a clear line - the demonstration of new powerful turbojet engines by the Koreans and this is the news.

And such a thing as mathematical modeling is not familiar to you ..? Now, by the way, in the United States and Russia, even a nuclear explosion is simulated on a computer instead of real tests ..

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And the missile, apparently, is a * flying log *, without modern means of overcoming missile defense. It will be difficult to get such an overseas foe. Moreover, ships of the naval missile defense component with Aegis and SM-3 are deployed off the coast. I am afraid that under such conditions, KN-14 will not overcome the active section

Well, will it overcome it or not, "the grandmother said in two" .. Moreover, as a colleague answered:

Quote: gergi

A missile defense missile will overcome, it will not overcome, it is not a hunt to test on its precious skin.

Well, the Koreans do not stop there. tested a solid-propellant rocket engine for a ballistic missile. now the next step is the creation of solid-propellant ICBMs. And this is a different, higher level of missile technology.
Well, and besides, here's more news:
http://ria.ru/world/20160401/1400806738.html

"We want North Korea to immediately stop such provocative steps and act for its own good and the development of the South and North," said Jung Joon Ryonghap, a spokesman for the Ministry of National Unification of the Republic of Korea, at a briefing.
Border between North and South Korea. Archive photo
© AFP 2016 / Jung Yeon-Je
South Korea accused DPRK of trying to disrupt GPS system
South Korea does not have the technology to contain GPS interference. "A technical way of blocking interference to GPS has not yet been developed," the agency quoted an anonymous military source as saying.

Well and further:

Agency sources say the DPRK is sending radio waves to jam GPS signals from the vicinity of Haeju City in the west and the Kumgangsan mountain range in the east along the demilitarized zone between the South and the North.
The agency claims that Pyongyang has about ten pieces of equipment to disrupt the GPS system in South Korea. Their range reaches over 100 kilometers and easily covers the South Korean capital.

And this is anyway a sign of full-fledged electronic warfare systems.

[ILIA]

Koreans have nothing to lose

[rotmistr60]

capable of striking the continental United States

In my opinion, the United States, as usual, is trying to adjust the information received to suit their interests. They (the Americans) perfectly understand that nothing really threatens them, but it is necessary to once again show their "vulnerability" from a virtual threat.

[igorek4515]

Quote: rotmistr60

In my opinion, the United States, as usual, is trying to adjust the information received to suit their interests.

Naturally .. First of all, put the DPRK and Kim personally as such a bloodthirsty monster brandishing a nuclear baton and intending to destroy all "progressive humanity" ...)))))

Quote: rotmistr60

... They (the Americans) perfectly understand that nothing really threatens them, but it is necessary to once again show their "vulnerability" from a virtual threat.

At this stage, there is no threat to them (the Americans) due to the imperfection of North Korean missiles, as well as their negligible number, especially taking into account their missile defense system being deployed all over the world.

[igorek4515]

Quote: Leprechaun

For all the perniciousness of the policy of the next "KIM" for stability on our eastern borders,

And why is it (Kim's policy) harmful ..? Now, if you look at it, it is just that, despite all the public statements of the Americans and their South Korean allies that they are ready to destroy the most important facilities of the DPRK with a preventive strike and publicly practice this on the current exercises, there is still no new big war on the Korean peninsula is explained precisely by Kim's policy and the presence and improvement of nuclear weapons in his country and not by some good intentions or by the peacefulness and humanity of the Americans and South Koreans as they themselves and some Russian representatives of the so-called "liberal intelligentsia" are trying to explain this ..

[Pinkie F.]

Quote: igorek4515

And why is it (Kim's policy) harmful ..? Now if you figure it out then

I see you will never get bored with the Korean theme) The persistence with which you defend your sympathies for the DPRK is even respected (without irony).
However, it seems to me that all this sounds more like a farce (I'm talking about demonstrating triceps). For Kim's "preventive" nuclear strike, there is a plan 5015 on preventive special operations. Who will re-prevent whom? And where is the notorious "red line"?

[kalita]

Well, Obama, Russia are flowers, but Korea will not think and will send several missiles to visit Washington.

[0255]

Quote: kalita

Well, Obama, Russia are flowers, but Korea will not think and will send several missiles to visit Washington.

And then the DPRK will be razed to the ground for this, neither the Russian Federation nor China will intercede for "Great Marshal" Kim and will even condemn him for a nuclear strike. If Kim is so cool, why isn't he launching a missile at the US right now? Most likely, he again begs for food from the imperialists, as in 2013, if he gets it, he will shut up for a couple of years until the food runs out again.
Kim fans, will it make you feel better if your idol foolishly destroys 1 unfortunate South Korean, Japanese and American city?

[gg.na]

Well done Kim! Man ! Keep it up ! Let the overseas adversary shake and do in his pants at night ! I am very happy!!!

[igorek4515]

Quote: Pinky F.

I see that you will never get bored with the Korean theme) The persistence with which you defend your sympathies for the DPRK causes even respect (without irony

First of all, my sympathies have nothing to do with it. I am just for a more objective and unbiased assessment of this country. And yes .. I have been seriously interested in the Korean topic for a long time, simply because I am very interested in this heroic people and have read a bunch of serious literature on this topic. I repeat SERIOUS literature and not publications in news feeds, as always one-sidedly biased, like most of the inhabitants here ..

Quote: Pinky F.

However, it seems to me that all this sounds more like a farce (I'm talking about demonstrating triceps). For Kim's "preventive" nuclear strike, there is a plan 5015 on preventive special operations. Who will re-prevent whom? And where is the notorious "red line"?

Here you need to look at the entire history of Korean-American relations .. This issue is not so simple .. As for the "red line", it just consists in the fact that making public statements is one thing, but moving from words to deeds is completely different .. Neither Koreans nor Americans want this .. For the consequences are well understood by everyone ..

Quote: 0255

And then the DPRK will be razed to the ground for this, neither the Russian Federation nor China will intercede for "Great Marshal" Kim and will even condemn him for a nuclear strike

Firstly, they will not equal .. And the DPRK absolutely does not count on the help of Russia or China as in the last war, which is why, contrary to the position of China and Russia, they went along the path of developing their own nuclear weapons.

Quote: 0255

If Kim is so cool, why isn't he launching a missile at the US right now? Most likely, he again begs for food from the imperialists, as in 2013, if he gets it, he will shut up for a couple of years until the food runs out again.

Well, if the Americans are so cool, why don't they start to destroy the North Korean nuclear facilities and the leadership as they wrote in their plan 5015 ..? Most likely they are afraid that by starting a war in this way they may well get a nuclear fungus somewhere over ChYaikago or Manhattan and over Seoul to boot .. And how they sweat will make excuses to their American and South Korean citizens for the fact that such a cool and hyped American army could not protect the citizens of these countries from North Korean nuclear weapons ..

[Old26]

Quote: Blondy

Quote: larand

Well, what are the traditions of the Soviet military school, which you do not remember exactly, but seemed to you.

In this case, to demonstrate false models of non-existent products. And I don’t remember exactly the models, which were replaced by fake models. And the number of defense belts is either five or seven. And what I remember exactly is that there were such facts. And that this misinformation defended the country no worse than real products and systems, the embodiment of which in real life would have cost astronomical money, and that this global disinformation was organized by Ogarkov. I hope for your understanding this time.

Models were demonstrated. In particular, the global rocket GR-1. They also carried anti-aircraft missiles (real, not mock-ups) of the Dal system, which our commentators then called an anti-missile. Westerners argued that the USSR had several missile defense belts, in particular the so-called. "Tallinn missile defense belt".
But all this happened 15 years before Ogarkov became the chief of the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces, or rather, all this happened in the mid-60s.
In addition, the "leaks" about the belts were multiplied by zero after the conclusion of the contract, 5 years after these shows.

Quote: wks

Now the United States is full of kirdyk, they cannot cope with this missile.

Of course kirdyk. How could it be otherwise. How can you master a rocket that has never been tested. KN-08 was tested at least once, but KN-14 .... And almost 40 interceptor missiles in Alaska and California - what can they do against KN-14 ...

Quote: gg.na

Well done Kim! Man ! Keep it up ! Let the overseas adversary shake and do in his pants at night ! I am very happy!!!

I'm glad you're glad. But will the residents of Primorye be happy if this Good Man-Man gets a roof over him and he dares to shandrack America. I don't know if the Americans will do it in their pants, but if the clouds cover the seaside, it is unlikely that the inhabitants will share your enthusiasm for this male

[igorek4515]

Quote: 0255

Kim fans, will it make you feel better if your idol foolishly destroys 1 unfortunate South Korean, Japanese and American city?

Fans of South Korea and the USA .. Will it be easier for you if your idols "raze" another country just like Libya, Iraq, Syria, etc ...? Or for you, any regime declared by your idols "bloody" and "dictatorial" is subject to immediate and unconditional destruction .. Then why are you so regretful about the POSSIBLE destruction of one American, Japanese or South Korean city .. Or for you any of these possibly destroyed cities is not worth the whole country ..?

[0255]

Quote: igorek4515

Fans of South Korea and the USA .. Will it be easier for you if your idols "raze" another country just like Libya, Iraq, Syria, etc ...? Or for you, any regime declared by your idols as "bloody" and "dictatorial" is subject to immediate and unconditional destruction.

Again you declare me a fan of the USA for being against Kim "Cool" logic you have - who does not like the sick on the head "great marshal" Kim - that's all, that 5th column and a traitor who sold himself to the bloody State Department for bloody cookies or dollars ... I wrote to you that I don't like neither The United States, nor the DPRK with their own policies. Or do you not admit the thought that one cannot hate both the United States and the DPRK at the same time?

[igorek4515]

Quote: Old26

KN-08 has been tested at least once, but KN-14 ....

Well, the fact that KN-14 is essentially the same KN-08 means nothing to you .. 7 well, if you haven’t tested it yet, why are you sure that it will not be tested in the future ..?

Quote: Old26

And almost 40 interceptor missiles in Alaska and California - what can they do against KN-14 ..

And what is the efficiency of intercepting ICBM warheads from these interceptor missiles in Alaska ..? They intercepted a lot of ICBM warheads during the tests ..?

Quote: Old26

But will the inhabitants of Primorye be happy if this Good Man-Man gets a roof over him and he dares to shandrack America.

And you ask the residents of Primorye, they will be happy if the Americans and South Koreans arrange another war with bombing and launches of Tomahawks directly near their borders and there is no fear that "by mistake" something may fly to them and not the fact that they will also do without the use of nuclear weapons ...? Won in the last Korean War, the Americans "by mistake" even bombed a Soviet military airfield near Vladivostok .. Where is the guarantee that now there will be no such "mistakes" ..? + crowds of refugees in to them .. who need to be fed, equipped, and so on.

[igorek4515]

Quote: 0255

Again you declare me a fan of the USA for being against Kim

Well, I'm here for exactly the same reason declared a fan of Kim .. Including you ..

Quote: 0255

You have "cool" logic - whoever does not like the "great marshal" Kim, who is sick on the head - that's all, that 5th column and a traitor,

Exactly the same as the opponents. if you are against South Korea then you are a fan of Kim and a supporter of the "bloody dictator and Stalinism .. As always, they like to rush to extremes here ..

Quote: 0255

I wrote to you that I do not like either the United States or the DPRK with its policies. Or do you not admit the thought that one cannot hate both the United States and the DPRK at the same time?

I admit that it is possible .. But one thing bothers me that, for example, in your comments, I have NEVER read ANY condemning words addressed to the United States, which, according to your own words, you hate no less than North Korea .. But only condemnation of North Korea and Kim personally. This is what makes me doubt the truth of your words that you hate both the DPRK and the USA at the same time ..

[0255]

Quote: igorek4515

I admit that it is possible .. But one thing bothers me that, for example, in your comments, I have NEVER read ANY condemning words addressed to the United States, which, according to your own words, you hate no less than North Korea .. But only condemnation of North Korea and Kim personally. This is what makes me doubt the truth of your words that you hate both the DPRK and the USA at the same time ..

If you wish, read my 4,4k comments, in which I criticize the United States no less than the "great sun-like" Kim.

[igorek4515]

Quote: 0255

If you wish, read my 4,4k comments, in which I criticize the United States no less than the "great sun-like" Kim.

However, in topics related to Korea, you unequivocally speak in favor of the United States. What is your bias in this topic? .. For if one country, even such a small one as North Korea, is driven into a corner by international pressure and a blockade, and even one possessing nuclear weapons, it will not seem enough to anyone .. Thirdly, through the fault of the United States .. Who are now trying to present themselves as a kind of "peacemaker" allegedly trying with all their might to resolve the situation, but in fact they are doing everything in order to further exacerbate it and push the conflicting sides of the DPRK and South Korea to war among themselves. At the same time, they themselves, as always, hope to sit out overseas .. But the DPRK's possession of its intercontinental missiles is already breaking this entire American plan. Just because the Americans will not be able to sit out with impunity overseas .. And they have to reckon with it ..

[Warrior2015]

Quote: Hamadryl

Officials from him do not steal billions and then dump them to the West,

Yah ? A little higher have already shown that not everything is so simple!

Quote: Hamadryl

in his country the world Zionist-Masons do not rule, soldering and drug addiction to the people,

You really decide - either the Zionists, or the Freemasons - otherwise I don't know a single famous historical person who was both a Zionist and a Freemason !!!!

Quote: Blondy

North Korea spent $ 2012 million on luxury goods in 645,8. Meanwhile, Kim Jong Il spent an average of 330 million on these purposes.
North Korean imports in Eun's first year consisted of dozens of Mercedes-Benz limousines and musical instruments, including dozens of expensive pianos.

This phrase needs to be highlighted in BOLD for Kim's fans and so that they constantly read into it!

Quote: igorek4515

Then why are you so regretful about the POSSIBLE destruction of one American, Japanese or South Korean city ..

Yes, because in this case the amerskaya otvetka will cover OUR Far East! It is clear that you do not care about the North Koreans themselves, who will be in the millions in this case. DO YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR OWN RUSSIANS ALSO?

[igorek4515]

Quote: Warrior2015

This phrase needs to be highlighted in BOLD for Kim's fans and so that they constantly read into it!

Well, I will give you a completely fresh figure on government spending in North Korea, and not for 2012, but literally quite fresh:
http://tass.ru/ekonomika/3165125

PHENYANG, March 31. / Corr. TASS Yuri Sidorov /. The deputies of the annual session of the Presidium of the Supreme People's Assembly (SNC) of the DPRK focused on economic problems. As reported by the news agency TsTAK, representatives of the unicameral parliament approved the draft state budget for the next fiscal year (until April next year). Defense spending remains unchanged at 15,8%.
At the same time, the authorities, judging by the project, decided to increase spending on the development of science and technology by 5,2%, education - by 8,1%, healthcare - 3,8%, sports - 4,1%, and the cultural sector - 7,4 ,XNUMX%. A large amount of funds, according to the CTAC, is planned to be spent on the education of Korean children living in Japan.
In general, in the new fiscal year, the authorities plan to increase government spending on economic development by 5,6% compared to the previous one.

Quote: Warrior2015

Yah ? A little higher have already shown that not everything is so simple!

At least his corruption is not at the same level as in Ukraine or even in Russia ... they won't even be close to this ...

Quote: Warrior2015

Yes, because in this case the amerskaya otvetka will cover OUR Far East! It is clear that the North Koreans themselves, who will be in the millions in this case, you do not care

And you can think they do not give a damn ..?

Quote: Warrior2015

DO YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR OWN RUSSIANS ALSO?

It would be much better for Russia to make efforts to REALLY resolve the conflict and not to unconditionally support only one side of the conflict and thereby to worsen the situation near its borders. Thus, the threat to Russians living in the immediate vicinity of the area of ​​potential conflict will decrease.

[igorek4515]

And by the way .. A new academic year has begun in the DPRK. there it starts in April and not in September like ours. Here is a link for a short video on this topic:

Pay attention to who the North Korean schoolchildren want to become, as opposed to, for example, Russian students .. This is a very illustrative example ..

[0255]

In childhood, we all wanted to become great scientists, researchers, doctors, astronauts, pilots, etc., for such dreams we do not have to be born in the DPRK. But not everyone becomes who they dreamed of in childhood, the reality is not so rosy. Maybe these children will then plow on bulls for a plate of rice or a salary of $ 3-5, instead of becoming whoever they wanted out of childish naivety.

[Vadim237]

Who knows what will happen there in 20-30 years - maybe even the sanctions will be lifted.

[igorek4515]

Quote: 0255

In childhood, we all wanted to become great scientists, researchers, doctors, astronauts, pilots, etc., for such dreams we do not have to be born in the DPRK.

And you just compare who the children want to become now in Russia, for example, and not in the USSR ..

Quote: 0255

Maybe these children will then plow on bulls for a plate of rice or a salary of $ 3-5, instead of becoming whoever they wanted out of childish naivety

Maybe or maybe not .. Time will tell .. Do you think that in Russia, for example, all children growing up live in full prosperity and do not experience any difficulties and hardships ..?
I'm just trying to break the stereotype that the DPRK is some kind of terrible and terrible Mordor thanks to our and not only our media .. And to show that this is a completely normal Asian country. yes, poor, but small, but quite NORMAL ... albeit slowly and with great difficulty, it still develops, and note this under the most severe economic sanctions and embargo, and in fact under conditions of an almost complete trade and economic blockade ..

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Quote: igorek4515

Maybe or maybe not .. Time will tell .. Do you think that in Russia, for example, all children growing up live in full prosperity and do not experience any difficulties and hardships ..?

I think it's better than in the DPRK.

I'm just trying to break the stereotype that the DPRK is some kind of terrible and terrible Mordor thanks to our and not only our media .. And to show that this is a completely normal Asian country. yes, poor, but small, but quite NORMAL ... albeit slowly and with great difficulty, it still develops, and note this under the most severe economic sanctions and embargo, and in fact under conditions of an almost complete trade and economic blockade ..

Normal - with the prohibitions of everything and everyone, with the Kimov personality cult ?! Yes, send you there - you will howl from such a life as the North Koreans live. You live in prosperous Kazakhstan with electricity, internet, normal food, personal transport, and imported goods. To deprive you of all this, to force you to praise the leaders - will you be very happy? I don't think so. But you think that there is nothing wrong with North Korean life, while you yourself do not live like that.
As for the sanctions - sanctions were imposed on Assad, but the Russian Federation supplies him with weapons, it is quite possible that for free. So what prevents Kim from buying Russian equipment, did he meet with Putin, like the late "great" Kim Jong Il? By the way, despite the embargo, Kim Jong-un bought expensive Mercedes for himself. Why can he buy himself a gay-European Merce under the sanctions, but he cannot buy food for the people, that he has to threaten his neighbors with missiles?

[igorek4515]

Quote: 0255

In childhood, we all wanted to become great scientists, researchers, doctors, cosmonauts, pilots, etc., for such dreams we do not have to be born in the DPRK.

I agree that it is not necessary to be born there. But look WHAT do Russian children want to become NOW ..? lawyers, economists, bankers, top managers, or even bandits or prostitutes altogether .. This is an indicator of the moral health of society ..

[igorek4515]

Quote: 0255

I think it's better than in the DPRK.

I'm not sure that all Russian children live better than children in the DPRK. especially in some Russian wilderness.

Quote: 0255

Normal - with the prohibitions of everything and everyone, with the Kimov personality cult ?! Yes, send you there - you will howl from such a life as the North Koreans live. You live in prosperous Kazakhstan with electricity, internet, normal food, personal transport, and imported goods. To deprive you of all this, to force you to praise the leaders - will you be very happy? I don't think so. But you think that there is nothing wrong with North Korean life, while you yourself do not live like that.

electricity is there too .. Yes, there are also interruptions, but there are already many hydroelectric power plants built so that the situation with power supply is not as bad as it seems. Internet .. Well, in your opinion, happiness is on the Internet ..? There is also normal food there .. All these horror stories about the fact that the North Koreans are swelling with hunger and chewing grass are already tired of refuting the order ..
personal transport is not such a necessity, especially if public transport is developed. Under the Union, the UC I did not have personal transport and nothing, lived and did not complain .. imported goods .. well, what difference does it make which goods are imported or domestic, the main thing is that they were comfortable, high-quality and practical .. I, unlike some, do not chase imports I have listed the requirements for goods and it does not matter to me whether it is import or not .. As for the praise of the leaders .. You simply did not live in Kazakhstan .. Our veneration of the president is not much different from the veneration of Kim by the North Koreans .. And in Russia, judging by the statements praising Putin on the Internet, for example, and in the media, too, is already very reminiscent of the same ..
so I think there is nothing to howl .. + add free medicine, education, etc. here. free provision of housing, etc. + no taxes as such for citizens .. There is no taxation of citizens in the DPRK at all ..

[0255]

personal transport is not such a necessity, especially if public transport is developed. Under the Union, the UC I had no personal transport and nothing, lived and did not complain ..

Do you have a car now? It's better to live with her, perhaps? Forbid you to ride it, can you really take it calmly?
In the USSR, unlike the DPRK, personal transport was not banned, magazines like Modelist-Konstruktor even had articles on how to assemble a car by yourself for those who did not want to wait in line for 5 years.

imported goods .. well, what's the difference what goods are imported or domestic, the main thing is that they are comfortable, high-quality and practical .. I, unlike some, do not pursue imports. I have listed the requirements for goods and it does not matter to me whether it is import or not ..

The quality of many goods produced in the CIS countries (not all of them, of course) is inferior to imported ones, sadly enough, we have to take decaying Western products.

You simply did not live in Kazakhstan .. Our veneration of the president is not much different from the veneration of Kim by the North Koreans ..

We also have "veneration for the leader" in Belarus

+ no taxes as such for citizens ..

Naturally, do not take taxes from a bowl of rice or a salary of $ 4-5

[igorek4515]

Quote: 0255

As for the sanctions - sanctions were imposed on Assad, but the Russian Federation supplies him with weapons, it is quite possible that for free. So what prevents Kim from buying Russian equipment, did he meet with Putin, like the late "great" Kim Jong Il?

As for the sanctions .. sanctions on Assad were imposed by purely Americans and the European Union. and on the DPRK by the UN Security Council. And these are completely different things .. Secondly, Kim would be glad to buy weapons in Russia, but only no one sells him, neither Russia nor China .. And nothing at all, neither for money nor in debt ..
Kim Jong-un did not meet with Putin ... although Putin invited him last year to Moscow for 70 victories. but he could not come due to the aggravation of the situation on the border with the southern neighbors ..

Quote: 0255

By the way, despite the embargo, Kim Jong-un bought expensive Mercedes for himself.

Where do you get this nonsense..From the liberal media ...? Just look at the latest fresh photos of Kim on the Internet .. He walks in such a simple coat, by the way, even better than his and in a very unpretentious hat .. And look at the "outfits" of Russian officials, even at the regional level, I'm not I'm talking about the federal one .. And who dresses cooler there .. And what cars do they drive ..? And finally, have you ever seen pictures of the car in which Kim drives ..? you can write anything on the Internet, but it would not hurt to provide evidence .. it's me not for you, but for the journalists who write about Kim's Mercedes ..

Quote: 0255

Why can he buy himself a gay-European Merce under the sanctions, but he cannot buy food for the people, that he has to threaten his neighbors with missiles?

This is nonsense ... Although people believe that Kim just because he has nothing to do just threatens his neighbors with their missiles .. And no one threatens him directly .. And most importantly, people believe in this nonsense ..

[0255]

Quote: igorek4515

Where do you get this nonsense..From the liberal media ...?

Yeah, everything bad that they write about the DPRK is not true and an attempt to discredit the bright appearance of the "great" Kim, but if they write well about the DPRK, then this is certainly true, the truth and nothing but the truth

Quote: igorek4515

Just look at the latest fresh photos of Kim on the Internet .. He walks in such a simple coat, by the way, even better than his and in a very unpretentious hat .. And look at the "outfits" of Russian officials, even at the regional level, I'm not I'm talking about the federal one .. And who dresses cooler there .. And what cars do they drive ..? And finally, have you ever seen pictures of the car that Kim drives ..? you can write anything on the Internet, but it would not hurt to provide evidence .. it's me not for you, but for the journalists who write about Kim's Mercedes ..

Look at the photos of skinny North Koreans.
"Sun-faced" Kim, puffing with hunger, and a well-fed simple worker:

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Russian officials drive expensive cars, but at least people are not prohibited from having their own vehicles.

[Vadim237]

But it raises fuel prices - soon it will be necessary to change to cars with a Euro 7 engine, or even give up the car altogether - to someone.

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Quote: Vadim237

But it raises fuel prices - soon it will be necessary to change to cars with a Euro 7 engine, or even give up the car altogether - to someone.

And North Koreans often have nothing to eat, let alone buy a car. And Kim's fans like you think that there is nothing wrong with that, in the name of the Juche and the "grand marshal" you can live in poverty. But when prices rise in Russia, the ruble falls, you get outraged and complain about life

[Old26]

Quote: igorek4515

Quote: Old26

KN-08 has been tested at least once, but KN-14 ....

Well, the fact that KN-14 is essentially the same KN-08 means nothing to you .. 7 well, if you haven’t tested it yet, why are you sure that it will not be tested in the future ..?

Essentially the same? Oh well. Are the three-stage KN-08 and the two-stage KN-14 the same thing?
And further. I have never said that they cannot experience it. You don’t need to attribute to me what I didn’t say. I said that it had never been tested before, and some comrades already believe that the United States is kirdyk from this missile

Quote: igorek4515

Quote: Old26

And almost 40 interceptor missiles in Alaska and California - what can they do against KN-14 ..

And what is the efficiency of intercepting ICBM warheads from these interceptor missiles in Alaska ..? They intercepted a lot of ICBM warheads during the tests ..?

Are you interested in the number of BGs intercepted during the tests? Welcome to the ABM Agency website. As for the probability of hitting a simple target, these interceptors have 0,85. I think that you yourself will calculate how many interceptor missiles are needed to intercept KN-08 and KN-14 warheads

Quote: igorek4515

Quote: Old26

But will the inhabitants of Primorye be happy if this Good Man-Man gets a roof over him and he dares to shandrack America.

And you ask the residents of Primorye, they will be happy if the Americans and South Koreans arrange another war with bombing and launches of Tomahawks directly near their borders and there is no fear that "by mistake" something may fly to them and not the fact that they will also do without the use of nuclear weapons ...? Won in the last Korean War, the Americans "by mistake" even bombed a Soviet military airfield near Vladivostok .. Where is the guarantee that now there will be no such "mistakes" ..? + crowds of refugees in to them .. who need to be fed, equipped, and so on.

Will not. Only for 60 years no one has touched this state, even in the 90s, when both we and China had no time for this. Why would they suddenly start a war with the DPRK? But Kim's actions, sometimes on the verge of a foul, can lead to just such a result. Its endless missile launches, demonstrating its steepness, can lead to the fact that one of the missiles will simply leave the trajectory and will be forced to shoot down ... And he considers this a provocation with all the consequences. So the inhabitants of the seaside will certainly not be happy from Kim's antics.