Pakistan for the first time demonstrated Chinese helicopters Z-10

For the first time, Chinese combat helicopters Z-10 (Zhi-10) were spotted in Pakistan last spring, and now the military showed them to the public 23 March at a parade in honor of Pakistan, the blog bmpd with reference to the blog of Yuri Lyamina.

It is reported that “helicopters are in service with the 35th Mustang Squadron Army aviation Pakistan. " According to Western media, Pakistanis are impressed with the capabilities of this machine.

“Another debut of this parade was the Shaheen III medium-range solid-fuel ballistic missile with a declared range of 2750 km, the first test launches of which took place in 2015 g,” reports Lyamin.

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Yuri Lyamin’s comment: “I’ll add that despite the fact that the Chinese and Pakistani military seem to be quite happy with the helicopter, according to Quwa, the Z-10 still continues to suffer from the lack of power of their Chinese engines WZ-9, as a result of which it cannot potential full combat load in the form of 16 guided missiles. From myself I will add that I am really in the frames of exercises, etc. I see Z-10 usually with a maximum load in the form of two blocks of NAR and 8 guided missiles. "

Comments

[mishastich]

I look, the future Pakistan-Indian conflict will be a confrontation between Russian and Chinese weapons.

[oleg-gr]

Interestingly, the participation of fighting camels and elephants is provided for in a potential conflict?

[bulvas]

Quote: oleg-gr

Interestingly, the participation of fighting camels and elephants is provided for in a potential conflict?

It is activated when all the tanks and helicopters are knocked out of each other.

They still have more people than technicians

[Arh]

Pakistanis are the same Indians (like those Ukrainians), I am glad that Russia and India are closely cooperating in the military ....

[Blondy]

I am glad that Russia and India are closely cooperating, in the military sphere ....

Yes, we are in the military sphere and are cooperating with Pakistan. I quote a fait accompli:

"On the Mi-35, we signed a contract with Pakistan, deliveries will begin next year," RIA Novosti reports the words of Rostec CEO during the Dubai Airshow-2015 international air show.

[kotvov]

the participation of fighting camels and elephants ?,
it is possible a tribute to the past, but bagpipes, what side are related to Pakistan?

[bulvas]

Quote: kotvov

the participation of fighting camels and elephants ?,
it is possible a tribute to the past, but bagpipes, what side are related to Pakistan?

Britain's influence and participation

[kote119]

bagpipes are an English colonial footprint

[UralMan]

Quote: kote119

bagpipes are an English colonial footprint

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it’s from the great-grandfathers in the chest I’ve fucked ... everything is somehow more interesting than the carnival

[RUSS]

Quote: kotvov

but bagpipes, what side are related to Pakistan?

Colonial legacy inherited by Pakistanis from Britain, as well as in sports, in Pakistan, "English" cricket and polo is very developed.

[RUSS]

Quote: oleg-gr

Interestingly, the participation of fighting camels and elephants is provided for in a potential conflict?

And why do not you ask the same question to our cavalrymen held at the Victory Parade?

[UralMan]

Quote: RUSS

And why do not you ask the same question to our cavalrymen held at the Victory Parade?

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I answer ...
horse cavalry and the like, not officially withdrawn from the armed forces ... maybe I'm wrong about something ... correct
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and it’s not worth ironicizing the traditions of that time ... the cool artillery was the same at that time ... BUT THE WHITE RACE-SYMBOL OF RUSSIA ... THE PRIDE OF OUR GRANDFATES OF THE COSSACKS!

[Mihalich17]

Circus, and only !!!
Another would be to add "lace panties" to them ... "
Soldiers, oh ...

[RUSS]

Quote: Mihalich17

Circus, and only !!!
Another would be to add "lace panties" to them ... "
Soldiers, oh ...

This is a parade, a tribute to traditions !!!

Our Russian example isCavalry honorary escort in a ceremonial dress, the elements of which correspond to the dress uniform of the Russian Imperial Guard of 1909-1913
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[chikod]

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[Kasym]

oleg-gr. In vain you laugh. In the mountains and deserts (and in Pakistan there are enough of them) donkeys, horses and camels (horse-drawn vehicles) are better than nothing. For example, our mountain rifle parts have horses. To carry those mortars with ammunition, large-caliber machine guns, nor to drag them on your ridge (just do not drag a lot). Nomads per day could 200-300km. pass, quite a decent result, even for mechanized parts on the road. Well, we must remember that even in China, a warrior is not yet fully mechanized. parts. The USSR went through this in the 60s. And Pakistan in the north (for example, Vizaristan) has no infrastructure at all, so there is no way without horse-drawn transport. It’s not for you to carry tanks around Europe on a truck.

[UralMan]

Quote: oleg-gr

Interestingly, the participation of fighting camels and elephants is provided for in a potential conflict?

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they would have shown giraffes in the parade with a SAM attached to them
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I goof ... parade show ... right in Brazil carnival

[Observer2014]

Pakistan was created by the Anglo-Saxons as the antipode country of India. This is one people divided and pitted against one another. Everyone understands this, but they are arming themselves against each other. Well, what they spend money on is not our business. Well, they bought from the Chinese, let the Chinese.

[RUSS]

Quote: Observer2014

Well, what they spend money on is not our business. Well, we bought from the Chinese, so let them from the Chinese.

The fact is that the Chinese are friends with the Pakistanis against India, it is a matter of politics, not the price of weapons.

[Observer2014]

"RUSS The point is that the Chinese are friends with the Pakistanis against India, it's about politics, not the price of weapons."
Yes, this is all understandable. The Chinese with the Indians grater over Tibet. Naturally, the Chinese are arming Pakistan. In general, there is nothing new. The enemy of my enemy, my friend.

[askort154]

Observer 2014 .... In general, there is nothing new. The enemy of my enemy, my friend.

Yes, only enemies come in all sizes.
China - India - Pakistan.
Total area = 13690 thousand square kilometers (for comparison, Russia -17075 thousand square kilometers!)
The total population is more than 3 billion (close to half the world's population).
All three states have nuclear weapons!

[arlekin]

Quote: Observer2014

Pakistan was created by the Anglo-Saxons as the antipode country of India. It is one people divided and pitted against each other.

And when were the Pakistanis and Indians the same people? The British united India and the territory of present-day Pakistan into one colony with the name India. After leaving, they returned everything back.

[milann]

Quote: Observer2014

Pakistan was created by the Anglo-Saxons as the antipode country of India. It is one people divided and pitted against each other.

Absolutely literally. And this move was repeated by the Anglo-Saxons in Ukraine. Having created two warring states on the basis of one, in fact, people.

[Observer2014]

"milann"
Dear, but not what is not changing in the world.
Divide and rule!
A lot of examples! Korea, Russia in the end.
A country is created by a specialist, an antipode of the country, a dough is thrown in there so that the standard of living is better. They make a protracted conflict. And at any time they turn it into hot. Therefore, the country constantly spends money on defense to the detriment of social programs (roughly speaking). Or a specialist through bribing elites or do blackmail whatsoever, be it not territorial disputes. At any moment that could turn into a war. By the way, do you know the latter? Yes, yes claims to Russia from Japan.
Therefore, "treatment" or stopping all threats en masse (for Russia). This is the inevitable destruction of the very heart of this hydra and for the company of one of the ventricles of this heart. I'm talking about Washington and London. Well, or the constant threat of the sword of Damocles over this hydra heart.
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[kamski]

Quite right, this is the whole point of the Anglo-Saxons. Wherever this people is, no matter what they do, it will always do a lot of nasty things for the peoples of other countries

[ava09]

Quote: mishastich

I look, the future Pakistan-Indian conflict will be a confrontation between Russian and Chinese weapons.

Especially when you consider the sale by Russia of samples and the transfer of technology to China.

[mishastich]

I cannot but admit that the Chinese military-industrial complex is the gloomy geniuses of cloning with a new shell. But their Kulibins have half of Yannan. So they have enough original samples.

[vodolaz]

So what's the problem? Loaded with missiles in full, and then quickly shoot them)))

[Sirocco]

Quote: mishastich

I look, the future Pakistan-Indian conflict will be a confrontation between Russian and Chinese weapons.

This is the case if the creators of this state (Pakistan) want to pit both fraternal peoples, like Korea, Ukraine.

[Thronekeeper]

The packs have Mi-35M "low-budget". India has Mi-24VK-P for cover from air defense and air of American Apaches. In general, Russia has armed both sides here, GDP, as always, shows a master class in geopolitics.
And the product ... South African AN-2 "Ruivolk" yellow assembly? Too much similar in engines, cockpit, gun, APNV, suspension and the wing itself. Well, Duc Su-27 yellow assembly will surprise no one.
Regarding the conflict. The packs simply don't have fighters. Su-35 versus F-16 and F-5 - it's not funny, it's a pichalka. There is no air defense. Fleet. Aircraft (!) With MiG-29K, "Calibers" and "Yakhonts", APRK. And some statistics. The packs climbed three times on India. Three times they raked him so hard that mom don’t grieve, don’t spoil son. 4th ... I don't believe it. Epo as in a joke about a bear: "Man, are you a hunter or 321?"

[Now we are free]

Quote: mishastich

I look, the future Pakistan-Indian conflict will be a confrontation between Russian and Chinese weapons.

Greetings mishastich
They forgot about the weapon from the USA ... Where would it be without it?
F-16, M113, M4Colt that in the photo to the article and this is by no means a complete list. Particularly interesting is the fact that when the confrontation turns into an open conflict like in the Kargil war, it is the Soviet-Russian weapons that say their decisive word (as the Mi-17s said, Pakistanis who were ramming Pakistanis who had settled in the mountains and delivered Indian infantry to the mountain ranges). However, Pakistan also learned from the clashes, and in terms of at least some resistance to the Indian tank fist from the T-90, it buys the Mi-35 in Russia ...

[dauria]

will be a confrontation between Russian and Chinese weapons.

This helicopter-kamovskaya (at the initial stage) development of the Chinese American "Apache" for the American (originally) engine. The nationality of this dragonfly is more difficult to determine than the nationality of Philip Kirkorov. A strange thing, our small helicopters have never considered serious. Well, the customer is the master.

[YARUSSIAN39]

Here you are right, but this "z-10" looks like an American Apache

[Primus pilus]

What will India answer?

[donavi49]

Apache Longbow 3 unit or even E with a new radar.

3 billion of money - 22 Apache + 15 chinook until 2019 year.

[Magic archer]

And the Chinese are not only stealing from us! The helicopter is practically the twin of the Italian Mongoose!

[Altona]

Quote: Magic Archer

And the Chinese are not only stealing from us! The helicopter is practically the twin of the Italian Mongoose!

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Yes, this helicopter is a symbiosis of technology, both legally acquired and so illegal. The company Kamova also took part in the development.

[Igor39]

I read that the guys from the Kamov Design Bureau helped them do it.

[donavi49]

This is Kamov’s 941 project, especially for China they made the concept and the project itself.

[newcomer]

cool machine at the commander in chief.

[aszzz888]

And how come without camels!

[Bronik]

I liked the camel cavalry. And the rocket with the crew.

[Viewer 1.0]

And the guys hanging on an external sling as you

[R-22]

Super! Camel is not enough)))

[newcomer]

about the engines, let them buy ours. we need money, engines to them. mishastich, with a similar conflict, Pakistan has no chance. Well, they won’t apply.

[guzik007]

and we all laugh at the Chinese. Helicopter build is not a bodice to rivet.

[Felix]

Quote: guzik007

and we all laugh at the Chinese. Helicopter build is not a bodice to rivet.

Here's how to finish the engine - if they finish, of course, then we stop laughing. In the meantime - the Kamov concept, the engine is raw, the reliability - if it is the same as the bodice - I do not envy the crew ...

[kamski]

Of course they’ll finish it, for this everything is well-developed electronics, powerful production and all that is needed.

[Felix]

Quote: kamski

Of course they’ll finish it, for this everything is well-developed electronics, powerful production and all that is needed.

But not soon, because production develops in isolation from science, and this is happening in China, because in the 90s, penguins, Japanese and others like them, taking production to China, thought only about its cheap labor.
But applied science has remained at the same level, and the lack of technology makes itself felt in all sectors - what they do under license has a decent quality, what they do their own has no quality.

[Primus pilus]

Why do Pakistanis ride two in camels?

[Saffron]

Krmandir and navigator (aka gunner, aka radio operator)

[Lieutenant Izhe]

To cover the "rear" of the camel mechanic drive from the penetration of members of ... ... enemy sabotage groups!

[family tree]

Quote: Lieutenant Izhe

To cover the "rear"

It is logical to plant the tady backwards, and "Berezina" to the camel bottom, on the turret

[rotmistr60]

And camels are better ...

[Yarik]

oleg-gr RU ​​Today, 11:11 ↑

Interestingly, the participation of fighting camels and elephants is provided for in a potential conflict?

Here nothing shines for the packs, the Indians still have crocodiles.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: oleg-gr

Interestingly, the participation of fighting camels and elephants is provided for in a potential conflict?

Your slight irony about the military camels is understandable. But this is a terrible weapon: not only does it have high traffic, it also spits disgustingly. What is not a desert warship?

[Engineer]

Yes, a good helicopter pilot for Kamchatka developed for China, which now creates competition for their own machines.

[Dr. Lecturer]

Quote: Observer2014

Pakistan was created by the Anglo-Saxons as the antipode country of India. This is one people divided and pitted against one another. Everyone understands this, but they are arming themselves against each other. Well, what they spend money on is not our business. Well, they bought from the Chinese, let the Chinese.

Yes, yes, the Indians are Muslims. After the departure of the British from India.

[kit-kat]

Z-10 looks very similar to Apache.