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Media: Russian military experts monitor the activity of American nuclear submarines

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The US Navy's ICEX 2016 doctrine with the participation of the 2's Los Angeles-class submarines, which passes into the Beaufort Sea (400 km north of Alaska), is monitored by specialized Russian specialists, reports MIC with reference to Interfax-AVN.




“The US Navy conducts these exercises on a regular basis. We monitor any activity of this kind using the available technical capabilities, ”said an agency source at the headquarters of the Eastern District.

Earlier in the command of the US Air Force reported that, the ICEX 2016 exercise began on March 2 and will last for 35 days. From the US, it involves the multi-purpose submarine "Hardford" and "Hampton." March 14 submarine "Hardford" surfaced through the ice cover.

“Our submarines also conduct similar exercises on a regular basis,” the former commander of a Russian nuclear submarine told the agency.

According to him, “when lifting a submarine to the surface through ice, various options for preparing a submarine for use weaponsHowever, it is preferable to use polynyas. ”

“If solid ice does not allow the boat to rise, there are several tactical methods, how to make sure that after lifting above the ice surface, nothing interferes with opening the covers of launchers. At the same time, the option of chain saws is also not excluded, ”said the source.

As stated by Camp Sargo camp commander Scott Loers, near whom the American submarine surfaced, “the actions of submarines in the framework of the ICEX exercises show the need to maintain the skills of submarine crews when working in extreme climatic conditions.

According to the newspaper, the US Navy submarines began to explore the seas of the Arctic Ocean more than 50 years ago. During this time, they held in the Arctic were 26 exercises.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 23 March 2016 18: 19
    -3
    "We monitor any activity of this kind using the available technical capabilities."

    Sounds optimistic. smile Only, I think, neither we nor the Americans can really monitor each other. yes
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 23 March 2016 18: 23
      +10
      They surfaced, and there was a poster - "Smile, a hidden Russian camera is filming you!"
    2. Abbra
      Abbra 23 March 2016 18: 24
      +6
      But this is in vain. In fact, we can track. Actually, all the submarines of the world are doing just that.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 23 March 2016 18: 29
        +5
        Quote: Abbra
        Actually, all the submarines of the world are doing just that.

        This does not mean that everything turns out. Secrecy is the main trump card of the submarine, otherwise they would not be built.
        1. family tree
          family tree 23 March 2016 18: 35
          -25%
          We track any activity of this kind using the available technical capabilities, ”said a source at the headquarters of the Eastern District.

          Aha wassat Kindergarten, pants on the straps laughing
          But they believe that what
          1. Abbra
            Abbra 23 March 2016 18: 44
            +11
            The Russian Navy, and in particular our submarines DO NOT TOUCH! For especially stupid - we do this in pants without straps. Round the clock, and all my life.
            1. family tree
              family tree 23 March 2016 19: 59
              -4
              Quote: Abbra
              The Russian Navy, and in particular our submarines DO NOT TOUCH!

              You, the submarine, have at least touched the edge, or from the pompolitics, with the slogans here? If the boat is visible and tracked, before launch it becomes a big brotherly one, with coordinates, so that a wreath, passing by, is thrown. As for ours, what concerns the staff.
              Detection, on which sensors are pulled in layers?
              And at the expense of tracking, well, three haha ​​and a pauseWell, just like children. belay
              1. jktu66
                jktu66 23 March 2016 20: 39
                +3
                ... il from the pompolites ...
                You are apparently a sailor. Did you go fishing or tradesmen? laughing
                1. family tree
                  family tree 23 March 2016 22: 14
                  0
                  Quote: jktu66
                  You are apparently a sailor. Did you go fishing or tradesmen? laughing

                  Arkhangelsk, I went sailing to Solovki, and I built boats, father-in-law, mother-in-law and wife, and my son builds in the end, in the same place on the Northern Sea Route, in Sevsk, former Molotovsk. I'm an engineering sapper repeat Well past, cho request
                  1. igorka357
                    igorka357 24 March 2016 05: 21
                    +1
                    Why is this past, in your statement that when the boat sank it is not visible, you have the same attitude to military sailors as a ballerina does to boxing! To get away from tracking, you need so much effort to make your mother not grieve .. and not always successful!
                    1. family tree
                      family tree 24 March 2016 18: 00
                      0
                      Quote: igorka357
                      you need so much effort to make mom do not worry .. and not always successfully!
                      Here! And I agree completely, and make.
                      So what is it:
                      Мы track any activity similar with the use of existing technical capabilities, ”said a source at the headquarters of the Eastern District.

                      At the expense of anyone, smiled sarcastically.
              2. Horn
                Horn 24 March 2016 11: 55
                0
                Good illustrations to the book of Alexander Pokrovsky. Smiled. smile
            2. Ros 56
              Ros 56 24 March 2016 09: 40
              -1
              Why convince, the gifted have already decided everything. Horseradish to hell change, only lose time. You can only convince someone who wants to find the truth.
          2. family tree
            family tree 23 March 2016 21: 04
            -2
            Quote: perepilka
            Yeah wassat

            -17, class, let's kindergarteners, at least reach 25 laughing
      2. Blondy
        Blondy 24 March 2016 00: 08
        0
        Quote: Abbra
        But this is in vain. In fact, we can track. Actually, all the submarines of the world are doing just that.

        It’s really - not really, it’s hard to establish, and we were everywhere found in Peter the Great Bay and with them at Los Angeles. The fact that they are being tracked (they would not have been tracked yet) - and this is no longer news.
    3. Coconut Tima
      Coconut Tima 23 March 2016 18: 58
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Sounds optimistic. smile Only, I think, neither we nor the Americans can really monitor each other.

      We can!
      On the shore sits the Chukchi.
      “Have you seen an American submarine here?”
      Saw.
      Where did she go?
      Course South-West-West.
      Don’t get smart, point a finger.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 23 March 2016 19: 11
        +18
        March 14, the submarine "Hardford" surfaced through the ice cover.

        It is called "surfaced". Cutting through the ice, and judging by the wreckage under the wheelhouse, not very thick.

        But, indeed, surfaced.

        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 23 March 2016 20: 05
          +5
          But, indeed, surfaced.

          I like this photo more ... 941 project

          hatches for four sea-based Satans (R-39) ...
          1. The comment was deleted.
        2. family tree
          family tree 23 March 2016 20: 28
          0
          Quote: Bad_gr
          Ice breaking through

          Well, ours think about it, but at the shtatovskaya, the last time, like from the cabin, the "accordion" became what , economy, cho request !
        3. Freelancer7
          Freelancer7 24 March 2016 00: 41
          0
          Cool, but the wheelhouse is hard-wired ... Nevertheless, the task is completed! Hammers !!!
  2. NDR-791
    NDR-791 23 March 2016 18: 20
    +4
    Media: Russian military experts monitor the activity of American nuclear submarines
    The media did not even have to worry about this. If they hadn't been tracking us, then we would have been gone for a long time (especially for the 90s). It's like "rocket trains", our analogue of "sosus", etc.
    1. avvg
      avvg 23 March 2016 18: 28
      +1
      It is always necessary for American "partners", eye and eye, then they probably will not poke their nose everywhere.
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 23 March 2016 18: 29
      -11%
      Oh well. In the 90s we weren’t anymore for the United States. And they no longer needed boats for this))).
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 23 March 2016 18: 34
        +5
        That is, you recognize yourself as one of the 15 million of the population, which, according to the "Thatcher Daisy" version, is enough for Russia? For THEM, we may not have been and the boats were not needed, but WE WERE !!!
  3. poquello
    poquello 23 March 2016 18: 23
    0
    it will be interesting to see the Chinese in a similar situation and more, more
  4. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 23 March 2016 18: 23
    +2
    But it’s impossible to track the submarines all the time, you can’t get into hydrophones across all oceans. The most dangerous of the nuclear triad.
  5. sir_obs
    sir_obs 23 March 2016 18: 27
    +11
    I’m tracking of course, and the absence of tracking our strategists is also regularly checked. To do this, use multi-purpose boats and diesel. Our boat leaves at a predetermined point and waits for the passage of our strategist. As he passes, they check whether anyone follows him. And if there is someone on the tail, they drive him away, giving an impetus to hydroacoustics in his direction. In general, a common thing, nothing has changed over the years.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 23 March 2016 21: 46
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      as well as regularly checking the absence of tracking our strategists.
      This is done by the commander himself. I will not give methods for checking the absence of tracking for well-known reasons. Previously, the strategist was covered by a multipurpose submarine. After analyzing the data from behind the puddles, they refused. The stealth factor increased by 2,7 times. But the fact that someone else sniffs your tail is a fairy tale. Otherwise, the whole collective farm will know your stitch paths. And a limited circle of fleet opamps knows the system of reference points.
      I don’t comment on the rest - she smiled naivety!
      Quote: sir_obs
      nothing has changed over the years.

      belay Oh how! And men don’t know !!!
  6. NDR-791
    NDR-791 23 March 2016 18: 28
    +5
    Quote: Vladimirets
    "We monitor any activity of this kind using the available technical capabilities."

    Sounds optimistic. smile Only, I think, neither we nor the Americans can really monitor each other. yes

    "Plainly" is not a concept used by such a structure as the General Staff and the Ministry of Defense! WE TRACK! whatever we have the opportunity to do. And this "all that there is an opportunity" allows us, even with problems, but to live here and now, and not to wipe the tables in the geyrocafé, although many of those who HAVE LEAVE from under our umbrella agreed to this.
  7. Hooks
    Hooks 23 March 2016 18: 28
    -1
    The nuclear reactor is so undetectable ...
  8. Pilot
    Pilot 23 March 2016 18: 30
    +2
    According to the newspaper, U.S. Navy submarines began to explore the seas of the Arctic Ocean more than 50 years ago.

    And not mastered.
  9. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 23 March 2016 18: 38
    +4
    "... In this case, the option of chainsaws is also not excluded ..."
    As an experienced user of chainsaws, and a beginner (apparently already finishing) submariner, the question can be: how will the personnel of the BS-12 nuclear submarines Hardford and Hampton (ice ax warhead) of the submarine end up on the surface of 5-meter ice ?! Drop in advance ?! repeat Although, the "Nemtsov First Liberal Air Division" will be ready to make cuts anywhere ... Here, only health is not enough! I'm probably a liberalophobe ?!
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 23 March 2016 18: 43
      +2
      Quote: ALABAY45
      how will the personnel of the BS-12 nuclear submarines Hardford and Hampton (ice ax warhead) of the submarine end up on the surface of 5-meter ice ?!

      Ice breaking the cabin, specially trained people jump out (БЧ-12) and easily and unconstrainedly with the help of saws release the PU covers. smile
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 23 March 2016 19: 02
        0
        And if 6 meters ?! With waterproof motorbenzene drills, combat Arctic divers, as part of the warhead-13, from underwater position ?! Expensive!!! It’s better not to pop up ...
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 23 March 2016 19: 07
          0
          Quote: ALABAY45
          And if 6 meters ?! With waterproof motorbenzene drills, combat Arctic divers, as part of the warhead-13, from underwater position ?!

          They buy 130 barnaul drills from us. yes
      2. shans2
        shans2 23 March 2016 19: 05
        +2
        5-meter ice even our shark megalods, they were Typhoons, did not break, within 3 meters ..... and they have special titanium tubes for breaking ice ....
      3. NDR-791
        NDR-791 23 March 2016 19: 08
        +3
        Recently, an article was about how nafig theirs electronic monohull monster froze. There was a video for almost 15 minutes. I almost fell out of the chair - yes! with chainsaws! choking in five minutes! IN THE FRESH AIR !!! Vidocq, as if "managers" were inscribed in the felling outfit !!! The outfit with shaking bodies is trying to saw off the boat, so that it sinks. Search articles within three weeks. By the way, since the mid-60s ours have been using anti-ice torpedoes to break the ice. They began to be developed immediately after the war, when the old diesel engines were tested for ice autonomy in the Northern Fleet.
        1. Mister22408
          Mister22408 23 March 2016 20: 12
          0
          One cap.time, nicknamed "Drum", (which the GSS) practiced this very :-) not far from the pole ...
  10. atamankko
    atamankko 23 March 2016 18: 44
    +1
    For the "exceptional" must be followed always and everywhere,
    at the moment they are ready to do any nasty "partner".
  11. killganoff
    killganoff 23 March 2016 19: 14
    +2
    This time, Russian specialists have mastered a new type of technical observation of potential friends - they have gleaned a lot of new intelligence information from YouTube.
    PS In fact, we do not have multi-purpose soldiers on constant duty, for this reason the Americans and their henchmen calmly ply in the oceans and do not regularly neglect visiting our training grounds for reconnaissance.
  12. Mercenary
    Mercenary 23 March 2016 19: 16
    +1
    “When raising a submarine to the surface through the ice, various options are prepared for preparing the submarine for the use of weapons, but it is preferable to use wormwood.”

    “If the solid ice does not allow the boat to rise, there are several tactical techniques how to make sure that after lifting above the ice surface, nothing will interfere with the opening of the launcher covers. With this option chainsaws also not excluded»

    I don’t laugh, they are getting ready ...
    But while you "motopilish" rocket hatches - homeland (America), all one kapets will come ... "Somewhere far away is my state of Texas" (c) ... can you - well, guys ??? All the more so that for you force majeure, for us, the norm of everyday life and service ... you will not overstrain, sailors, the us naval corps ???
    1. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 23 March 2016 19: 25
      -4
      We have developed R-39UTTH ("Bark") missiles for the Sharks. They could shoot straight through ice up to 2,5 meters thick. Makeev Design Bureau. Now instead of these missiles, Bulava is being tortured.
      1. Bad_gr
        Bad_gr 23 March 2016 21: 27
        0
        For what minus explanations will be? or just quietly crap in the state?
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 23 March 2016 21: 47
        +4
        Quote: Bad_gr
        R-39UTTH ("Bark"). They could shoot right through the ice up to 2,5 meters thick

        - How do you know the thickness of the ice? And if there is not 2.5, but 2.8?
        - Bark, as far as I understand, was never developed. How can we talk about a failed project "they could shoot"?

        Quote: Bad_gr
        Now, instead of these missiles, they torture the Bulava

        ... which, unlike Bark, is already flying ..

        PS: Minus - not mine. And - and you do not care these minuses? Shoulder straps are all one thing - drawn wink
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 23 March 2016 22: 20
          +1
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          - How do you know the thickness of the ice? And if there is not 2.5, but 2.8?

          I read somewhere that, basically, the ice of the Arctic Ocean is below this value. In general, in most of this ocean, it was possible to shoot through the ice without surfacing.
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          How can you say about a failed project "they could shoot"?

          A device for breaking ice on this rocket was (at least found in several articles). Here, for example, a mention of him:
          "...2. Solid propellant rocket system for breaking the ice, solid propellant rocket engine of the missile turning system. Engines of multiscale type "tandem" of all-round combustion with ballistic powder. For example, 3L-91.30.19 and 3L-91.1.10.29.
          Fuel Type - Ballistic Solid Fuel
          The mass of the engine of the ice breaking system is 29 kg ...
          "
          http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-441.html

          Quote: Cat Man Null
          and you do not care these minuses?

          In truth, annoying. But I have a positive attitude to constructive criticism, since data about which I did not know surfaced.
          1. region58
            region58 23 March 2016 22: 55
            +1
            Quote: Bad_gr
            A device for breaking ice on this rocket was (at least found in several articles).

            They probably considered it inappropriate or risky. Or they thought that in any case the boat will come up and shoot, and what will happen next is how lucky ...
            Quote: Bad_gr
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            and you do not care these minuses?

            In truth, annoying.

            Don't take it personally. Probably so they reacted to "you could shoot." Would write "it would be possible to shoot" you see the pluses would be put (in a pancake, some "would").
            1. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 23 March 2016 23: 57
              0
              Epaulets finely drawn smile , and changes in the rating with the sign - or + give at least some idea of ​​the readability of the commets, well, of the acceptance of our thoughts and attitude to the topics raised or their rejection. hi
          2. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 24 March 2016 00: 05
            +1
            Fortunately, among the many uri and all-missing comments, there are very informative or simply improving moods. And for these comments I want to put more than one plus! hi
  13. 933454818
    933454818 23 March 2016 19: 38
    0
    I remember Gorbachev M.S. When he was president of the USSR, he told the Americans somewhere at the reception that the USSR had equipment capable of distinguishing even the power of nuclear charges from missiles of a submarine, and this boat was no matter the submerged or surface position, and suggested that the Americans share this equipment for mutual control .I still don’t know if there is such equipment or Gorbachev scared Americans for fun
  14. nemo778
    nemo778 23 March 2016 19: 49
    +7
    Poor fellow! I look at the photo for the article, it becomes a pity for them! Directly nemchura in-41m near Moscow crying But is it so weak for them? good
  15. Oprychnik
    Oprychnik 23 March 2016 19: 53
    0
    The American submarine SSN-578 surfaced at the pole in 1959, and in 1962 the Soviet nuclear submarine Leninsky Komsomol.
    1. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 23 March 2016 19: 54
      +1
      And here is ours.
  16. MARK
    MARK 23 March 2016 20: 34
    +4
    The fauna of the Arctic is still on our side .. They (animals) always feel kindness and truth ..))) Russia is invincible!
  17. Red baron
    Red baron 23 March 2016 21: 10
    +5
    Quote: PSih2097
    But, indeed, surfaced.

    I like this photo more ... 941 project

    hatches for four sea-based Satans (R-39) ...

    stadium))))
    I was just standing next to Satan - I imagine the size of the sub ...