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Project "ZZ". America advised to learn from Russia

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The Russian military-political strategy received a due assessment in the West. Yes, exactly, without exaggeration. The Moscow campaign in Syria is called “brilliant.” For some six months, Putin has managed to demonstrate to the world community how the limited use of the army can change the balance of power. In addition, the Kremlin has proven that it is not at all necessary that any campaign in the Middle East will lead to a protracted war. Analysts in the US are sighing: can the next owner of the White House ever learn anything from Putin?




Bret stevens in The Wall Street Journal wrote an interesting article under the telling title “Learning From Vladimir”. For a major US press, the name is somewhat surprising: after all, the author, in fact, urged Washington to learn from Putin.

And indeed, Stevens believes: there is something to learn.

The analyst calls the short military campaign of Russia in Syria “brilliant” (splendid). True, the Russians had small losses and political friction: the Turks shot down a Russian plane and the conflict between Russia and Turkey began; the international community was outraged about the bombing of not civilian targets, but against civilian targets; there were reports of personal frictions between Assad and Putin. Some even believe that Putin announced the withdrawal of troops so suddenly because of these very tensions.

However, the journalist focuses on something completely different.

First, in just six months, Putin made the world understand that the limited use of the military machine could change the balance of power.

Secondly, he demonstrated an obvious fact: not every intervention in the Middle East leads to a protracted war.

What follows from this? A lesson for American presidents.

“Will the next US president learn something by analyzing this particular use of force?” The author asks.

Well, of course, an American journalist immediately inserts, "none of the future presidents" tells his military pilots to drop bombs "to the markets in the towns, as Mr. Putin did in Idlib and Aleppo." According to Stevens, “cruelty without a reason” is an inappropriate way for America to wage wars in the 21st century.

And even having such a point of view, the journalist suggests that the future guests of the White House take a few lessons from Mr. Putin.

When planning an invasion, the American president should:

1. Take sides in the war. The author refers to the useful experience of Mr. Machiavelli, who taught the emperor "to openly declare himself an enemy or a friend." This type of behavior is much better than “standing apart.” Putin has always taken sides: in Syria, he sided with the “regime”, and in the course of “interventions in Ukraine and Georgia”, he defended “representatives of the local Russian minority”. Neither Obama nor his predecessor Bush can do this: the first was more distinguished in “criticism” than in the war, and the second was at war for no one, but for the sake of “democracy”, hoping to “later” put some “democratic” in power representative of the "local". What came of it, everyone knows.

2. Use “other people's hands” (“Use proxies”). Do not go into a fight alone and lead all the fighting. And it is even better to do so that after you the one who is obliged to you remains in power.

3. Have real goals. Here, Obama did not understand Putin at all and did not know what he was thinking: the White House owner believed that the Kremlin would get bogged down in Syria as the USSR was stuck in the Afghan war.

4. Remember the rule of Earl Batz (ex-Minister of Agriculture, who once spoke about the pope’s edict on contraception: “You don’t play this game yourself, so do not make the rules!” His role the author of the article refers to as "remarkably insignificant."

5. Save options. Yes, Russia withdrew part of its troops from Syria, but left much there. In addition, Putin made it clear that he was ready to return troops to Syria. That’s how the United States could have acted in Iraq and Libya in its time (to provide a military presence), but ... it did not. The result is known to all.

A whole hymn to the glory of the Russian strategy was performed in the publication "The Trumpet".

While Obama continued to assure the planet that the Russians would "get bogged down" in Syria, Putin suddenly reported: "Mission accomplished." And he told the truth, says the publication.

According to some estimates, the almost semi-annual campaign in the Middle East cost Russia about $ 1 billion (about 2% of the annual defense budget). With this money, Putin introduced various types of aircraft into the campaign around 70 and sent 4000 people to Syria. Material losses of Russia are very small: one Su-24 (shot down by Turkey) and one transport helicopter Mi-8. And Putin is not at all "stuck" in the war.

He achieved a number of goals:

a) ensured the survival of the Syrian regime and maintained its position at the military base in Tartus;

b) received commercial benefits: by launching cruise missiles from the Caspian Sea, as well as demonstrating the power of the Su-34 in the air and the T-90 on the ground, Russia was able to show its modern weapons in battle. And now, according to press reports, many states are interested in Russian weapons (Algeria, Vietnam, Iraq, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Uganda, Nigeria, Ethiopia). New supply contracts weapons by themselves, they are likely to cover a billion-dollar ad campaign, writes article author Brent Nagtigal;

c) Putin showed the political weakness of the United States in the Middle East and effectively declared Russia a power restoring its influence in the region;

d) besides, Moscow has restored its image, which was shaken after the Ukrainian crisis and the "green men". Now, in Europe, Putin is considered a person who can bring stability even to “the most unstable regions”.

Finally, Putin in Syria has shown himself as a person who is achieving a result (of peace negotiations). And he may well play the role of a “rational mediator" in negotiations between the Europeans, the Saudis, the Turks and the Syrians.

The point in this apotheosis of Russia was put by one of the old influential US magazines - "The Nation".

According to Matthew Del Santo, the inclination of Western politicians and the military, including the American NATO general F. Breedlove, to accuse Russia, and at the same time the “Assad regime” of provoking migration in Europe for the sake of “crushing European structures” is absurd. However, Breedlove and his ilk are not at all embarrassed by the lack of evidence.

Discussion of the “militarization” of Russia increasingly shows signs of a strategy designed to shift Europe’s responsibility for the refugee crisis from the EU leadership to Russian President Vladimir Putin. European politicians and Breedlove simply repeat the statements made by the European Council President Donald Tusk (the former Prime Minister of Poland from 2007 to 2014). For almost half a year he has been repeating, standing on the side of Mogherini, that he “knows”: Putin’s policy is built on the desire “to simply have enemies, to be stronger than them, to destroy them and be in conflict.” Such nonsense demonstrate a complete "lack of realism," the author believes.

Like most EU leaders, Mr. Tusk “forgot” about the deep cause of the migrant crisis: the collapse of states in Afghanistan and Iraq, caused by more than a decade of Western wars and failed “national construction”. In the case of Syria, the governments of the Western states and their Turkish, Saudi and Qatari allies bombarded the anti-government rebels with arms, money and gave them diplomatic support, which then led to the emergence of the IG hordes. When Russia launched an air campaign in Syria (30 September 2015), migrant flows in Greece have long been a problem for the EU. The refugee crisis has become a symbol of the inability of the European Union to guarantee the safety of its citizens. And the recent agreement with Turkey is unlikely to save the situation.

It is time for the West to stop showing hostility towards Russia and turn it into a scapegoat. The lack of realism in the concept of the EU and the corresponding practice of international politics is bad. Russia cannot be "excluded" from Europe. At the moment, European leaders, as well as their colleagues in Washington, seem to have no other vision for the EU’s relations with Russia, apart from making a scapegoat from Moscow, thus covering up their own blunders. However, it is time to change something, the author is convinced.

* * *


More and more voices in the West are being heard in favor of change: the United States and the European Union should show “realism” in politics, stop making mistakes and refuse to assign scapegoats. Some analysts even advise the White House to take lessons from the military-political strategy from Moscow.

However, against the background of the nonsense that the military old men like Bridlava and fantasizing politicians like Tusk say as the immutable truth, the voice of reason will hardly be heard. He is hammered by a thousand other votes.

Military commanders from NATO continue to assure the planet that Putin and Assad have decided to fill the whole of Europe with refugees, as well as to attack the Baltic States, Poland and, of course, Sweden the other day. In the US, they are already discussing the upcoming "warships" that Putin will send to the "annexation" of the Arctic. Speeches on the topic of the “annexation of the Crimea” are repeated periodically (they don’t talk about a referendum). Approximately two thirds of Ukrainians, according to other polls, believe in the actions of Putin’s troops in Ukraine. In the UK, intelligence agents with knowledge of the Russian language are recruited: it is assumed that they will catch "Moscow spies" on the streets of London. All these essays are awarded for “analyzing” and “evaluating” the Kremlin’s strategy. Where does realism come from?
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    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 23 March 2016 09: 33
      +16
      Quote: avvg
      Arrogant Americans, they are not able to learn from other peoples, for "exclusivity".

      It seems to me that the US hosts are happy with everything.
      Protracted conflicts? This is quite good for them, more budget money will settle in the pockets of moneybags, and the loss of soldiers is nothing to them. Such are they blasphemous people.
      1. maxiban
        maxiban 23 March 2016 09: 37
        +40
        Well, it would not be bad now for Putin to restore order in Russia.
        1. chikenous59
          chikenous59 23 March 2016 09: 39
          +12
          Quote: maxiban
          Well, it would not be bad now for Putin to restore order in Russia.

          As soon as he takes up order within the country, he immediately begins to blaze somewhere over the hill so that Russia has to participate in this and postpone the internal arrangement "for later". Direct coincidences of some kind.
          1. vladimirZ
            vladimirZ 23 March 2016 10: 33
            -28%
            As soon as he takes up order within the country, he immediately begins to blaze somewhere over the hill so that Russia has to participate in this and postpone the internal arrangement "for later". Direct coincidences of some kind.
            - chikenous59 (3)

            The old, as the history of states itself, the method of distracting the people from the internal problems of the country, especially affects the "hurray-patriots."
            Russia is not such a rich state to wage protracted military conflicts "over the hill".
            And the conclusion of most of the aviation group from Syria is proof of this. Russia cannot economically bear the burden of a long-term military load in Syria, no matter how its leadership would not want to confront ISIS, the US and Europe there.
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 23 March 2016 11: 00
              +37
              Quote: vladimirZ
              Russia is not such a rich state to wage protracted military conflicts "over the hill".
              And the conclusion of most of the aviation group from Syria is proof of this. Russia cannot economically bear the burden of a long-term military load in Syria, no matter how its leadership would not want to confront ISIS, the US and Europe there.


              Have you ever tried to see anything positive in Russian politics ?! The deterioration in living standards occurred at the level of what Putin, and not anyone else, did in his time. Yes, we began to live worse, but worse with respect to what, with respect to what time ?! Or remind you of the 90s ?! You whine everywhere in all comments how badly you live, with such an attitude to life, you will feel bad everywhere and always! You are now repeating the next liberal mantra that Putin ran out of money for the war, that we hadn’t finished off somewhere, etc.! Before showing off your nagging, you would think and analyze at least the information that is publicly available!

              Already got these snot!
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 23 March 2016 11: 17
                +31
                VladimirZ. Well, who would have doubted, there are no arguments, so we just minus! Minus as much as you like, I don’t feel sorry, or even better, call me “hurray-patriot”, because I will not be offended anyway! Only your snot will not cease to be snot because of this, you can chew it or wind it on your fist, but this does not in any way negate Russia's success in the geopolitical arena!
                1. vladimirZ
                  vladimirZ 23 March 2016 11: 55
                  -14%
                  Only your snot from this will not cease to be snot, you can chew them or reel them in your fist ...
                  - Diana Ilyina (1)

                  Rude, lady, rude, and also a woman. not solid. Rudeness is a sign of lack of proper arguments and lack of knowledge.
                  At the end of the sim with you.
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 23 March 2016 12: 09
                    +18
                    Quote: vladimirZ
                    Rude, lady, rude, and also a woman. not solid. Rudeness is a sign of lack of proper arguments and lack of knowledge.
                    At the end of the sim with you.


                    It may be rude, but to the point! By the way, your address "lady" in the above context also looks like a veiled rudeness, but I'm not offended by such things! On the offended, we, as usual, carry water!
                    1. Alena Frolovna
                      Alena Frolovna 23 March 2016 15: 01
                      +21
                      Quote: vladimirZ
                      Russia is not such a rich stateto wage protracted military conflicts "over the hill".
                      And the conclusion of most of the aviation group from Syria is proof of this. Russia cannot economically bear the burden of a long-term military load in Syria, no matter how its leadership would not want to confront ISIS, the US and Europe there.




                      ***

                      Note.

                      And on the twitter, someone suggested: "Or maybe 1000 rubles from the nose - and goodbye, America"?

                      "I'm ready to send an SMS for 50 rubles. Give me the number!"

                      "It's not a sin to pay the Anglo-Saxons for 5000 rubles. From retirement.
                      And close the question forever. "

                      "I will join! With pleasure! I want a ticket in the stalls for the start of our Satan in the direction of Fashington :-)"

                      1. aleksey980
                        aleksey980 23 March 2016 21: 25
                        +5
                        Quote: Alena Frolovna

                        Note.
                        And on the twitter, someone suggested: "Or maybe 1000 rubles from the nose - and goodbye, America"?
                        "I'm ready to send an SMS for 50 rubles. Give me the number!"
                        "It's not a sin to pay the Anglo-Saxons for 5000 rubles. From retirement.
                        And close the question forever. "
                        "I will join! With pleasure! I want a ticket in the stalls for the start of our Satan in the direction of Fashington :-)"

                        Yeah. A year or two ago, I would not have said such a thing, there was still a hope for good in me, but now ... I would have sent a half thousand dollars too. Maybe the defense ministry can launch a kickstarter fundraising campaign to force the naughty Saxons to live honestly laughing
                  2. LOCKS
                    LOCKS 23 March 2016 16: 29
                    +2
                    "There is nothing to cover with a jack" - that's what people say ........
                2. Starik72
                  Starik72 23 March 2016 14: 08
                  +8
                  Well done Diana. Decently answered this nozzle chewing! Indeed, because of them, all that bad happens that happened with the USSR during perestroika and in the 90s, and even now this is happening in Russia.
              2. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 23 March 2016 11: 46
                -8
                Already got these snot!
                - Diana Ilyina (1)

                Lady, I already wrote to you that if you are not aware of what is really happening, you don’t know how to analyze them, you only eat from the liberal media that has flooded Russia, then you don’t need to impose your erroneous opinions on others.
                I never and nowhere repeat "another liberal mantra", because by convictions I have been and remain an adherent of the communist ideology, and from these positions I express my opinion.
                And by the way, the current supreme power of the state, including the President of Russia V.V., adheres to the liberal ideology that is now ruling in Russia. Putin, which he has repeatedly stated. You don’t even know this.

                And I see positive aspects in the foreign policy of Putin and his team. The President's respect for the annexation of Crimea to Russia, his attempts to defend the sovereignty of Russia, is worthy, but his entire policy is leveled by the oligarchic environment, and can be characterized by Lenin's words "one step forward, two steps back."

                What can this lead to? Nothing good, which is especially evident in the failure of domestic policy, leading to further impoverishment of the people and the final collapse of the economy, the destruction of industry, and the final consolidation of Russia in the status of a raw material colony of the West.
                It is a pity that you do not understand this.
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 23 March 2016 12: 03
                  +17
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  What can this lead to? Nothing good, which is especially evident in the failure of domestic policy, leading to further impoverishment of the people and the final collapse of the economy, the destruction of industry, and the final consolidation of Russia in the status of a raw material colony of the West.
                  It is a pity that you do not understand this.


                  Another nonsense! The oligarchy was just in the 90s. You make a substitution of concepts or simply do not understand them. Oligarchy, this is a merger of business and power. Now, of course, we still experience the legacy of seven-bankers, but in much smaller sizes. Let's just say that the years that are now called bold were with Putin’s practically the same team as they are now, well, maybe with minor changes. Just now the geopolitical situation has changed, Russia has almost declared war! And you want that in war conditions you would live like cheese in butter, this does not happen! In war, as in war, just some suffer more, others less. It has always been like this, under the kings and the communists, and now it is the same! Learn history and don't get hysterical!

                  Your Wishlist about communism, it's just Wishlist, but you need to live by realities. I also want to return to the USSR, but this is also just my Wishlist and they have nothing to do with reality!
                2. 79807420129
                  79807420129 23 March 2016 12: 06
                  +14
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  It is a pity that you do not understand this.

                  Well, yes, yes, you’re smart one, and the rest went out for a walk, yelling to shout. Regarding the Communists, what did Mr. Zyuganov merge into the drunkards in 1996, because he won them, what did he do with the Zhirik impeach Yelkin in 1998? After all, the Communists had a majority in the Duma, because it was better to sleep and press the buttons, and use the deputy’s benefits, how many times did Mr. Zyuganov later come close to Putin in the presidential election? Yes, and there aren’t those Communist deputies now.
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 23 March 2016 12: 17
                    +18
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    Well, yes, yes, you’re smart one, and the rest went out for a walk, yelling to shout. Regarding the Communists, what did Mr. Zyuganov merge into the drunkards in 1996, because he won them, what did he do with the Zhirik impeach Yelkin in 1998? After all, the Communists had a majority in the Duma, because it was better to sleep and press the buttons, and use the deputy’s benefits, how many times did Mr. Zyuganov later come close to Putin in the presidential election? Yes, and there aren’t those Communist deputies now.


                    Bravo, Vlad! Thanks for the support! Although I voted for the Communists until recently, this is more likely due to the lack of an alternative. In fact, no Zyugan is not a communist, but survived under power, parasitizing on the Soviet legacy and the name of the Communists! By the way, he himself most of all communists and defames! As long as the Communist Party does not change their leadership and show real deeds, they will lose their votes!
                    1. 79807420129
                      79807420129 23 March 2016 13: 01
                      +15
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      ! Although I voted for the Communists until recently, this is more likely due to the lack of an alternative. In fact, no Zyugan is not a communist, but survived under power, parasitizing on the Soviet legacy and the name of the Communists! By the way, he himself most of all communists and defames! As long as the Communist Party does not change their leadership and show real deeds, they will lose their votes!

                      It’s absolutely true that Diana, I’ll go to spoil the ballot in the September elections because I don’t know who I vote for, although I always voted for the Communists. Zyuganov’s time to promote young people, he’ll leave, and when Zhirinovsky leaves, everyone will forget about the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party. real communists who cared about the welfare of the country will no longer be unfortunately no longer. hi love
              3. ruAlex
                ruAlex 23 March 2016 12: 01
                +4
                Support!
              4. 30BIS
                30BIS 23 March 2016 13: 29
                +10
                Everyone has probably already forgotten how Russia washed itself with the blood of its citizens. Ter. act for ter. act. Military and civilians were killed. Explosions of houses, seizures of hospitals, schools. Murders of children, old people and women .. Widespread poverty. The families shared one fucking Bush leg for four! Human memory is short. Got sick! Forgot ! Now all this is outside the borders of our state. Ter acts in Paris and Geneva. War in Ukraine and Syria. The fight is for life and death! Whiners - Remember the Kursk submarine, captain Kolesnikov's submariner - "15:45. It's dark to write here, but I'll try to feel it ... There seems to be no chance. 10-20 percent. Let's hope that at least someone will read it. Here are the lists of the personnel of the compartments, some are in the ninth and will try to get out. Hello everyone, there is no need to despair. "There is NO need to despair!
              5. Vadim42
                Vadim42 23 March 2016 15: 17
                +1
                That's right, they say about such people, he lives with his mother.
              6. Kostyar
                Kostyar 23 March 2016 17: 11
                +7
                Russia is not such a rich state to wage protracted military conflicts "over the hill".

                Russia The Richest Country of the World !!!
                How much can you listen to the nonsense that enemies and traitors inspire every second, from all the media over the years, about the developing economy and so on ....?! Plus traitors and sorcerer-officials (you can’t call them otherwise, because even thieves from the time of the New Economic Policy had primitive values ​​and the understanding that you can’t take the last, rob and rob those who already think a penny and barely make ends meet ends, unlike modern thick-skinned bureaucrats !!!).
                Russia is multinational and rich in such a gifted and talented people who, with honor and dignity, help other countries in the difficult times for Her. !!!
                Therefore, given human and natural resources, there is only one conclusion: There is no richer than us on the planet Earth NOBO GO !!!
                ps: they will start shooting embezzlers, with confiscation and corruption will disappear (on such a scale) !!!
                1. str. 1968
                  str. 1968 23 March 2016 19: 56
                  +1
                  A rush of souls, not a wallet (not window dressing).
                  Most likely this distinguishes us from them.
              7. magician
                magician 23 March 2016 19: 30
                +5
                You are right, Diana! Each era has its minuses and pluses. We must live in the era in which you live, work, love. Remember our fathers and grandfathers, how much have they passed? Be worthy of them. The strength and power of Russia is not in the president, but in our affairs and thoughts. We build our present and future of our children!
            2. chikenous59
              chikenous59 23 March 2016 11: 00
              -4
              Quote: vladimirZ
              The old, as the history of states itself, the method of distracting the people from the internal problems of the country, especially affects the "hurray-patriots."

              It is strange that your comment has not yet been deleted.
              1. vladimirZ
                vladimirZ 23 March 2016 11: 17
                -3
                It is strange that your comment has not yet been deleted.
                - chikenous59 (3)

                For what? For the truth. What do you recommend? Study the story and find a lot of evidence there.
                Or do you doubt that Russia is not a very rich state? What is the economy in our state?
                Analyze the facts, not the emotions of "hurray patriots".
                Nowadays, unfortunately, due to the policy of the liberal-oligarchic government, Russia is not a fully sovereign state, with a weak colonial, raw-material economy, with a menacing share of stratification of society into rich and poor, not capable of providing a decent life for its people.
                Well, and what about the authorities, in these conditions they can not distract the people from their unworthy life.
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 23 March 2016 11: 21
                  +15
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  Well, and what about the authorities, in these conditions they can not distract the people from their unworthy life.


                  Sorry, but your real name is not Nadezhdin or Stankevich for an hour ?!

                  P.S. America is a very wealthy state, with the greatest foreign debt! And how did it help them in Syria ?!
                  1. Kostyar
                    Kostyar 23 March 2016 17: 15
                    +2


                    Well done Diana Ilyina, hold +100 !!!
                2. chikenous59
                  chikenous59 23 March 2016 11: 23
                  -3
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  For what? For the truth. What do you recommend?

                  I don’t need your advice) I just forgot to put an emoticon, so you apparently accepted my post as a condemnation)))
                  Just such comments, like yours, are not popular here, I thought they would be deleted
                3. 79807420129
                  79807420129 23 March 2016 11: 34
                  +10
                  Quote: vladimirZ
                  Or do you doubt that Russia is not a very rich state? What is the economy in our state?

                  Evona, like, already changed more than one phone, proving to the whiners that Russia is a very rich state, the entire periodic table is available, hydrocarbons, the 1st in the world in terms of fresh water reserves, forest, but I forgot to measure it in my pocket, and we have an economy oh-well, damn it, what am I doing at the factory then, damn it? We work in 3 shifts, IN 3 CHANGE CARL. Diana told you correctly
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Only your snot from this will not cease to be snot, you can chew them or reel them in your fist,

                  I fully subscribe to her opinion, but I can give you a handkerchief.
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Already got these snot!

                  Absolutely so, Diana! As my foreman said in the army, All whiners and alarmists to the wall.
                  1. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 23 March 2016 11: 48
                    +9
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    All whiners and alarmists to the wall.

                    Correctly: bully
                  2. vladimirZ
                    vladimirZ 23 March 2016 17: 34
                    +6
                    To all minus markers and "hurray-patriots", if you have enough economic knowledge and ability to analyze, compare facts and events, read today's article on VO "Sergei Glazyev: Our Citizens Will Meet the Centenary of the October Revolution and Ask ...", as well as an article dated March 18 "God help, Mr. Obama!" Oleg Chuvakin.

                    Try not to beat your chest in cheers, but to understand what kind of economy has developed in Russia today, thanks to the liberal-oligarchic power, when industrial enterprises simply cannot work due to the treacherous, namely traitorous, financial policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation .
                    And how can industrial and agricultural enterprises work, when, with their profitability in a few percent, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation provides for the issuance of "expensive" loans in tens of percent, without which (loans) it is simply impossible to work.
                    In the Russian economy, a situation has been artificially created in which it is unprofitable to invest money in the real sector, and it is advantageous to engage in speculation against the ruble exchange rate, against the people and the state.
                    And you say whiners. People are happy in ignorance and ignorance, and this is a disaster for Russia.
                    1. vladimirZ
                      vladimirZ 23 March 2016 17: 48
                      0
                      And I’ll add about the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the opinion of Professor MGIMO, Doctor of Economics V. Katasonov.
                    2. 79807420129
                      79807420129 23 March 2016 21: 22
                      +8
                      Quote: vladimirZ
                      when industrial enterprises simply cannot work due to the treacherous, namely traitorous, financial policy of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation

                      Vladimir, I'm sorry, of course, but you are stubborn like a ram who wants to pound a new gate with his forehead, do not be offended, in no case do I want to offend or humiliate you, but reading your comments you get such an impression, I will not repeat to you that our NPO Saturn enterprise in Rybinsk, works in 3 shifts, tearfully asked to go out to work on weekends, because. there are a lot of orders and not only one "Saturn" in Rybinsk, a lot of enterprises work, and in Yaroslavl, too, private and state enterprises are plowing by the sweat of their brow, and how many throughout the country, if there are not enough places to list them, maybe Vladimir will stop moaning then Not without problems, and not everything in Russia is smooth, no one argues about this, and it is necessary to eliminate the shortcomings, but your whining and jerking, oh, how tired of it, there will be an article even about penguins in Antarctica, even about the Papuans in Papua New Guinea or about Syria, how "Yaroslavna's crying" immediately begins (fellow countrywomen, this does not apply to you) how bad everything is, we will all die, so try to work or something, organize your business, go to the state-owned enterprise, but stop whining, no one will bring you anything, If you sit on the couch, your problems are of course sitting on the couch and talking and teaching everyone how smart you are or go to work for yourself, by the way, you have repulsed my desire to vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation with your indiscriminate criticism, I will ruin the ballot, while the communists are only to a continuous UAV UAV UAV, but the case is not visible. And it is not necessary to blame EdRo, that EdRo, that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, that the Liberal Democratic Party, that the SR is smeared with one world-deputy privileges, and not the fate of Russia. hiDo you want minus, it’s violet to me.
                      1. cap
                        cap 24 March 2016 05: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: 79807420129
                        try to work or something, organize your own business, go to the state-owned enterprise, but stop whining, no one will bring you anything if you sit on the couch. Your problems, of course, are to sit on the couch and talk and teach everyone how smart you are or go to work for yourself


                        That's right. Unfortunately, Vladimir not all of Russia.
                        Your advice will not work in a region where "eight months are winter, the rest is summer" take a look at the map, then look at where the permafrost zone goes, find state-owned enterprises, in the same place, quickly get off the couch and get a job. ...
                        He would propose to do the same to everyone who supports the thesis about lazy people in their native Fatherland, except those living in two capitals and regional (regional) centers.
                        My respect to all who undertook to discuss such a sore subject.
                        As long as the sum of indexations and benefits to the population does not really reflect life, the fifth column remains in the hands of the trump card, or callus, if you like, on which they will press EVERYTHING before and after the elections.
                      2. PHANTOM-AS
                        PHANTOM-AS 24 March 2016 05: 24
                        +2
                        Quote: cap
                        As long as the sum of indexations and benefits to the population does not really reflect life, the fifth column remains in the hands of the trump card, or callus, if you like, on which they will press EVERYTHING before and after the elections.

                        There will be nothing, promises will be, and nothing else will be.
                        You understand, finally, this power is not for the people, this state system is completely not adapted for the life of ordinary people.
                        No need to fool yourself!
                    3. vladimirZ
                      vladimirZ 24 March 2016 09: 21
                      0
                      you are stubborn like a ram who wants to push a new gate with his forehead
                      --79807420129

                      I will answer you with a childish saying: "Whoever calls his name is called that." And children are known to speak the truth.

                      You can't even compare the anti-crisis program of the liberal Government of the Russian Federation D. Medvedev, the liberal party "United Russia", drawn up by further robbing the people, raising taxes, excise taxes and the speculative exchange rate of the dollar against the ruble, which has already robbed the entire population in Russia by more than 2 times only in 2014-2015, and now they are already throwing ideas on the inevitable increase in the retirement age after the State Duma elections in the fall of 2016,
                      with a program to overcome the economic crisis of the Communist Party, voiced this spring, and designed for real, effective measures based on the formation of a development budget in comparison with the "United Russia" budget plan to save and cut costs on everything and everyone.



                      Well, in addition, about your active work in Rybinsk at defense enterprises. For your information, now in conditions of escalated confrontation with the United States and Western Europe, the work of defense enterprises is financed in a special way, at the expense of state funds, for future deliveries of military equipment that is so needed, or at special interest rates for targeted loans. But, unfortunately, this is only in the defense industry, in other sectors of the economy everything is different.
                      The jet engines, aircraft, ships, and submarines needed now are not a complete list of what is needed. You can’t replace them with products (food security of the country) and everyday goods needed by the people and produced in completely different financial and economic conditions.

                      So, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is not a BLA-BLA-BLA, but a real program of action, including the one already being implemented in practice through the creation of a network of so-called "people's enterprises".

                      I’m not going to personally reach out to you, in your commitment to the liberal-oligarchic path of development of Russia, but someone, I hope, will be useful.
                  3. Cro-Magnon
                    Cro-Magnon April 1 2016 18: 11
                    0
                    You are all about Thomas and you are about Yegor ... They are not fools here on the forum ... everyone knows and understands everything! And about the liberal traitors, and about the fact that Putin has some agreements with them since 1999 and he fulfills them as a "real St. Petersburg kid" ... then what? What do you suggest? Specifically? Imagine 1941, the village of Kryukovo and political instructor Klochkov to his soldiers: we will all die ... because we have 140 million people and Hitler's Europe has 500, we are 20 times weaker than them financially, 10 times in industry, 5 times in / x ... Stalin merged Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic states ... the government betrayed and fled to Kuibyshev ... and everything in the same spirit ... Fortunately for us ... there were people, heroes! not like the current tribe! And people like you in the first year of the war for alarmism and cowardice were used up, and in subsequent years they were sent to re-education in penal companies!
                    Stalin did business like this: criticize-offer! Offer-do! Business
                    you, answer for what you have done! Are you ready to offer and do at least something, or just shout: "wolves ... wolves!"
              2. Manul
                Manul 23 March 2016 15: 47
                +6
                Quote: vladimirZ
                Nowadays, unfortunately, due to the policy of the liberal-oligarchic government, Russia is not a fully sovereign state, with a weak colonial, raw-material economy, with a menacing share of stratification of society into rich and poor, not capable of providing a decent life for its people.

                That's about a decent life in more detail. Do you personally starve? Can't buy yourself clothes? Home Appliances? In the country, the number of motorists is increasing every day, the right to take it is always the queue (not everyone would be given out of course), people go on vacation abroad (many can afford to save for a vacation). Yes, now the period is not easy, and the country's internal problems are of course there is. But here it is not necessary to mix warm with soft - it seems to be manipulation.
                1. Docent1984
                  Docent1984 23 March 2016 17: 05
                  +7
                  My great-grandmother for the last 60 years, until recently, when her daughter took her to live, lived in an adobe hut, which she herself built in 50, raised two daughters and kept her paralyzed mother-in-law for 10 years after her husband's death. At the age of 20, my grandmother had only shoes, and even those were thin. At the age of 30, my father had a service apartment from the Ministry of Defense and was saving up for a second-hand Moskvich. At the age of 30 I have my own home and a new foreign car, which, oh horror for hamsters, I earned myself. The hamster doesn't care if only to write something ... And, by the way, from my great-grandmother, I have never heard her complain about life)))
                  1. gladcu2
                    gladcu2 23 March 2016 19: 33
                    0
                    Docent1984

                    Do you have an apartment on bail? Deposit security deposit? And if you have not paid, then you will be taken away from her when you become ill and lose your job.

                    And then you remember the hamsters in the sofa.
                    1. 79807420129
                      79807420129 23 March 2016 21: 45
                      +7
                      Quote: gladcu2
                      Docent1984

                      Do you have an apartment on bail? Deposit security deposit? And if you have not paid, then you will be taken away from her when you become ill and lose your job.

                      And then you remember the hamsters in the sofa.

                      And you read carefully:
                      Quote: Docent1984
                      At the age of 30 I have my own housing and a new foreign car, for which, oh horror for hamsters, I earned myself

                      The CAM man has earned. Gladcu has been specially designated for you.
                    2. Docent1984
                      Docent1984 24 March 2016 13: 21
                      0
                      It was pledged, paid. And in case of illness and temporary disability, I had insurance. By the way, a commercial bank selects an apartment in the last turn, when delays are measured over the years, and there are no chances. For it is unprofitable for them, they do not have special people who are engaged in this all. My wife worked in such a bank before the decree; she knows the situation very well. And just don’t have confidence in the future, I would never have got into a millionth loan) It's just the opposite)
                2. gladcu2
                  gladcu2 23 March 2016 19: 29
                  +2
                  Manul

                  A person complains only when he cannot plan his future.

                  You give him at least two apartments, but if, as a result, the factors are not dependent on the person, these apartments will be taken away from the person.

                  You will not get happiness.

                  Happiness is not in food and cars. Happiness is confidence in tomorrow.
          2. OlegLex
            OlegLex 23 March 2016 20: 31
            +4
            You know, I also don’t like what is happening in my country, but this is my country and this personally is enough for me to love her and hate her enemies, both internal and external. And then your statement about the fact that Russia is not a rich state. so how objective is it? we are apparently not so rich that we are quietly building giant bridges and new spaceports. Yes, they steal from us, but where do you say they please do not steal? In America? - Do not tell our officials their scope did not even dream of. In China, officials are shot every month for theft.
            I know one thing every nation is worthy of its government. no need to say that "They are there" they are the same as we are, we all grew up in the same country and went to the same schools (exceptions only confirm the truth)
            Quote: vladimirZ
            Russia cannot economically bear the burden of a long-term military load in Syria, no matter how much its leadership wants
            but this phrase for me directly says that you personally have no relation whatsoever to Russia.
        2. BABA SHURA
          BABA SHURA 23 March 2016 23: 19
          +1
          And from Medvedev, should there be any benefit?
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    3. baluru72
      baluru72 23 March 2016 12: 38
      +2
      take a look at the article

      http://x-true.info/34725-hillari-klinton-ssha-rassmatrivayut-territoriyu-ukrainy
      -kak-mesto-dlya-pereezda.html

      ofigel absolutely ...
      1. cap
        cap 24 March 2016 06: 31
        +1
        Quote: baluru72
        take a look at the article

        http://x-true.info/34725-hillari-klinton-ssha-rassmatrivayut-territoriyu-ukrainy


        -kak-mesto-dlya-pereezda.html

        ofigel absolutely ...


        From the section "Everyone should know this"!
        “The USA considers the territory of Ukraine as a place to move”

        "We must not abandon this territory, as the most favorable for the global American move, because of the position of Russia and will continue to coordinate international pressure to return Crimea to a single territorial space as of February 2014."
        And further:
        "It is natural that the European United States in the future will occupy the territory where statehood is in a coma, with no hope of recovery. At the moment, this is undoubtedly Ukraine, located on a significant and economically profitable territory, which the Ukrainian authorities have not can rationally manage, where from year to year the whole world observes only progressively growing state, social, demographic and economic degradation. The same can be attributed to the countries of the Baltic region. I hope that the European United States will be able to adequately replace these non-state misunderstandings on the European platform. As a result, we will find a common language with Russia and China and will become good neighbors and equal trade partners who do not need any wars and shocks. " - concluded Clinton.

        "Klava I'm lying around", we will have new neighbors! request

        My answer is to Mrs. Clinton, live in your FIGS. Further. We do not need such neighbors. Ukrainians, new Indians? Poroshenko, of course, is a big snake, but certainly not Chingachkuk.
        pederast parade in Ukrainepederast parade in Ukraine
  2. askort154
    askort154 23 March 2016 10: 03
    +10
    “None of the future presidents” tells their military pilots to drop bombs “on bazaars in settlements, as Mr. Putin did in Idlib and Aleppo”

    According to some estimates, the nearly six-month campaign in the Middle East cost Russia about $ 1 billion (about 2% of the annual defense budget) [/ quote]

    The article well reflected the main principle of the Western media information war. Serve in the information 70%
    truth and 30% lies, everything in general is perceived as truth. To do "stuffing" without facts, it has become the norm. It has become more modern to post "hot video clips" not related to this event. An eloquent example is "riots in Moscow", and the video shows Egyptian palms. If a refutation follows, it looks like "waving fists after a fight." A fresh example in this article. The President of the Russian Federation loudly announced the cost of the operation in Syria - 33 billion rubles. An American journalist turned it into $ 1 billion.
    This is the kind of "American arithmetic" that has taken possession of all Western media.
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 23 March 2016 11: 06
      +8
      Quote: askort154
      The article well reflected the main principle of the Western media information war. Serve in the information 70%
      truths and 30% lies, everything as a whole is perceived as truth.


      That's right, with one exception, the truth is 10% there, but the lies are 90%, if not more! Remember Goebbels, the larger the lie, the more willing it will be! The Americans have long surpassed the Germans in this matter, and in general it is not clear which of them learned from whom, especially if we recall the whole history of the Naglosaksona world!
      1. askort154
        askort154 23 March 2016 13: 17
        +1
        Diana Ilyina ..... That's right, with one exception, there are 10% truths, but 90% lies, if not more! Remember from Goebbels, the bigger the lie, the more willingly they will believe it!

        Goebels' theory did not die; it transformed with society.
        Goebels "shouted into the megaphone", and we now live in the era of the "Internet" and global transport accessibility. "Shouting into a megaphone" does not work for the modern society (especially young people) to "hang on the ears". Therefore, new "measures" and new technologies have come. And the "measure" is proportions
        dosage of truth and lies. The modern proportion of 70/30. Foundation on
        the future is the maximum distortion of history in the right direction. love
      2. Starik72
        Starik72 23 March 2016 14: 26
        +3
        Diana. The truth is in Western propaganda and messages, you need to look like a needle in a haystack, if there is no magnet, then there are no brains, then you will not find. So I agree with you.
  • Riv
    Riv 23 March 2016 09: 26
    +5
    Enemies do not need to have. Enemies need to be destroyed. Normal, Russian approach to business. Americans cannot be taught this.
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 23 March 2016 09: 36
      +8
      Quote: Riv
      Enemies do not need to have. Enemies need to be destroyed. Normal, Russian approach to business. Americans Can't Teach This.

      Do not make people laugh laughing The Americans do not know how to destroy their enemies?
      Yes, they do it best on the planet. Look at the stories of conflicts, everywhere Americans are involved.
      Gos. coups with all that it implies is also a method of destroying enemies and competitors.
      All of Europe is occupied by the Americans, Japan. Everything under the hood. Everywhere acceptable US regimes are established, respectively, the enemy is destroyed.
      They just have more dirty methods, but no less effective.
      1. Riv
        Riv 23 March 2016 09: 42
        +2
        Oh, that ALMIGHTY Washington! .. :))))
        Well, they occupied, provoked a conflict, or a coup - then what? Have you become friends? That's why I say: you cannot explain this simple principle to Pindophiles.
        1. chikenous59
          chikenous59 23 March 2016 09: 50
          +3
          Quote: Riv
          Have you become friends?

          They have no friends, as well as ours, well, except Belarus (and then many will not agree),
          but the enemy also disappears, the puppet remains in power, which is used in the interests of the country.
          Take Merkel for an example.
      2. Wildcat-731
        Wildcat-731 23 March 2016 18: 50
        +1
        Quote: chikenous59
        Quote: Riv
        Enemies do not need to have. Enemies need to be destroyed. Normal, Russian approach to business. Americans Can't Teach This.

        Do not make people laugh laughing The Americans do not know how to destroy their enemies?
        Yes, they do it best on the planet. Look at the stories of conflicts, everywhere Americans are involved.
        Gos. coups with all that it implies is also a method of destroying enemies and competitors.
        All of Europe is occupied by the Americans, Japan. Everything under the hood. Everywhere acceptable US regimes are established, respectively, the enemy is destroyed.
        They just have more dirty methods, but no less effective.

        Yeah, exactly. This is about occupation. The Yankees in the Metropolis have many times fewer troops than in all their combined bases over the hill! fellow belay
        This is what a "tasty" target for some kind of internal rebellion fellow ! For the freedom of the riotous Texas region, or whatever. After all, the Yankees cannot even crush the uprising - all the troops abroad. belay
        So: "Freedom to the Texas People's Republic!", "Alaska - Home!" am laughing
      3. aleksey980
        aleksey980 23 March 2016 21: 15
        +3
        Quote: chikenous59

        Do not tell the people Americans do not know how to destroy their enemies?
        Yes, they do it best on the planet. Look at the stories of conflicts, everywhere Americans are involved.
        Gos. coups with all that it implies is also a method of destroying enemies and competitors.
        All of Europe is occupied by the Americans, Japan. Everything under the hood. Everywhere acceptable US regimes are established, respectively, the enemy is destroyed.
        They just have more dirty methods, but no less effective.

        I dare to correct, or supplement. The Americans went much further. They do not destroy enemies, knock them down and milk them, supporting them in this state. That is precisely what they are, absolute and unconditional leaders.
        1. chikenous59
          chikenous59 24 March 2016 06: 40
          0
          Quote: aleksey980
          I dare to correct, or supplement. The Americans went much further. They do not destroy enemies, knock them down and milk them, supporting them in this state. That is precisely what they are, absolute and unconditional leaders.

          I agree.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 23 March 2016 09: 37
      +10
      Normal article. Respect to the author!
      Here the news is even shaggy. Find the video, it’s literally fresh. See how Raul Castro prevented Obama from patting his shoulder at his reception in the presence of a bunch of international journalists laughing
      1. cap
        cap 24 March 2016 04: 02
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Normal article. Respect to the author!
        Here the news is even shaggy. Find the video, it’s literally fresh. See how Raul Castro prevented Obama from patting his shoulder at his reception in the presence of a bunch of international journalists laughing


        Watched. Young man R. Castro. good
        He made it clear to the primate, do not confuse me with a palm tree))))
  • seti
    seti 23 March 2016 09: 26
    +4
    Really laid out small money by world standards and the effect for years.
  • Rav075
    Rav075 23 March 2016 09: 28
    +3
    I liked the article. The USA and the EU are blind, deaf, and carry all nonsense - and this is reality for many years.
  • AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 23 March 2016 09: 33
    0
    I think the Americans can already forget about the Arctic. Even do not try to poke your nose there))
  • Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 23 March 2016 09: 33
    -5
    About what a cool army We learn from the crafts of Hollywood. Alas, their army, special forces and the CIA really make a depressing impression.
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 23 March 2016 09: 41
      +3
      Quote: Seraphimamur
      special forces and CIA make a depressing impression.

      Can you tell us more about the CIA and the depressing impressions associated with this agency?
      Suspiciously much you know about the CIA)))
      I can’t say anything bad about the US special forces, the guys are well prepared (I mean the elite units). Of course, they have problems, just like ours.
      But this does not mean that the USA is a weak rival for us.
  • Fastenkov
    Fastenkov 23 March 2016 09: 33
    +4
    Here we will teach competitors on their own head! I have a feeling that they are trying to lull us, as flattering speeches flow through well-known publications.
    And the current plot with the videoconferencing in the SAR is a battle won, but not a war. Good fight.
    To those who perished for their homeland - our eternal gratitude. They must be remembered.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 March 2016 09: 34
    +5
    When the enemy begins to praise you, you should strain and start looking around - what a mistake you made! This is a joke, of course, but every joke has a fraction ... jokes.
  • Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 23 March 2016 09: 35
    +1
    Donald Tusk (former Prime Minister of Poland from 2007 to 2014). For almost half a year now he has been repeating, standing on the side of Mogherini that he “knows”: Putin’s policy is based on the desire “just to have enemies, to be stronger than them, to destroy them and be in conflict”. Such nonsense demonstrate a complete "lack of realism", the author believes.
    Delirium, but how "creative" fellow !
    The lack of realism in the concept of the EU and the corresponding practice of international politics is bad. Russia cannot be "expelled" from Europe.
    Maybe they should just look at the map. wink .
  • Stinger
    Stinger 23 March 2016 09: 35
    +1
    Useless. It is not treated. Too fond of teaching others, not learning.
  • Sasha75
    Sasha75 23 March 2016 09: 39
    +3
    Everything is very simple, you need to fight not with terrorists, but against terrorists then everything will turn out right.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 23 March 2016 09: 48
      0
      Quote: Sasha75
      Everything is very simple, you need to fight not with terrorists, but against terrorists then everything will turn out right.

      Everything is just very difficult, if you profess the approach - "no man - no problems", after all, there is no idea, as far as I remember from history - terror preceded the formulation of an idea, which then carried the masses
  • Flinky
    Flinky 23 March 2016 09: 40
    +1
    Carter got over the radar yesterday and said that we were fomenting a civil war in Syria ... Even a million articles will do nothing. And it is right. Patients on the head should live in their mental hospital and not go to decent people.
  • Air defense Valga
    Air defense Valga 23 March 2016 09: 41
    +1
    The campaign against Russia is one-on-one according to the precepts of Dr. Goebbels - "give me the media and I will turn any nation into a herd of pigs" ... the principle works, unfortunately, without failures ... so Americans like to learn, only the selection of teachers from them disgusting ... forget that for 33 comes 45..axiom.
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 23 March 2016 09: 50
    +8
    Yesterday I watched "Evening with Solovyov", so the Zhirik, in my opinion, was right about stupid Europe raging, especially against the background of everyone whose hands of friendship itch; said yes let them kill the Europeans, what do we care? Until their millions die, they will not scratch themselves, as it was in the first world war and in the second. I agree, especially when I looked at the mogherini. Crocodile tears of a stupid cow is called.
    1. andj61
      andj61 23 March 2016 10: 52
      +3
      Quote: iliitch
      Yesterday I watched "Evening with Solovyov", so the Zhirik, in my opinion, was right about stupid Europe raging, especially against the background of everyone whose hands of friendship itch; said yes let them kill the Europeans, what do we care?

      I liked it more as Y. Kedmi said that these explosions were not at all the result of refugees flooding Europe. These terrorists were born and raised in Europe, and about this area of ​​Brussels two years ago, Israeli TV broadcasts showed. An interviewer was interviewed by a journalist who speaks excellent Arabic, and they mistook him for an Arab and did not encrypt them - they calmly said that terrorist acts were being prepared against infidels. So, according to the results of this report, NO conclusions were made in Belgium.
      But the refugees will still say their word in terms of terrorist attacks, only a little later, when in Europe they will get a little better.
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 23 March 2016 09: 54
    +4
    If the International Coalition in Syria had the goal of fighting terrorism not declaratively, but in reality, then Russian intervention might not have come. The United States and its satellites only solved their problems by throwing wood into the fire of the civil war. Ours silently and efficiently worked out the arrangement, created conditions for a truce, and then, as in the East they say "Allah's will for everything," ours answer - "Trust in God, but don't do it yourself!"
  • atamankko
    atamankko 23 March 2016 10: 11
    +1
    Russia has once again shown what a "regional" country it is.
  • krops777
    krops777 23 March 2016 10: 16
    +3
    Arrogant Americans, they are not able to learn from other peoples, for "exclusivity".

    And yet, for us, this is a military campaign to bring peace and order to suffering people, and for the Americans, a war, to bring as much troubles and devastation as possible and to support our stinking dollar.
    1. wandlitz
      wandlitz 23 March 2016 10: 48
      0
      They can learn something, but they don’t admit that they use other people's experience. They will say that they themselves guessed ...
    2. Lyton
      Lyton 23 March 2016 11: 01
      0
      Quote: krops777
      And yet, for us, this is a military campaign to bring peace and order to suffering people, and for the Americans, a war, to bring as much troubles and devastation as possible and to support our stinking dollar.

      Well, and even more so, for Merikans, war is always somewhere far away, i.e. not on their territory, they do not even consider such hostilities.
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  • SklochPensioner
    SklochPensioner 23 March 2016 10: 59
    +1
    The West has slipped into regional politics and is fixated on it. Sowing a lie (for the sake of what? !!), he succeeds, by 70-80 percent, to fool the Western public and some figures of the other world dependent on him. And this other world is huge and hardly pro-Western. If they do not abruptly change course, then the West is undoubtedly a scribe.
    Financiers crushed politicians for themselves, not understanding what this could lead to. As a result: there are no strong politicians in the West, nor is there a normal policy. The way out is war.
    However, now it’s not like that this morning ... And here they will break off! I am sure.
  • pts-m
    pts-m 23 March 2016 11: 33
    0
    According to the figures of geyrops, Russia has a wrong view of values. But values ​​have their own meaning and concepts about them. What they mean by values ​​is probably tolerance, lgbtizm, pluralism of opinions, and even a lot of all kinds of garbage.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 March 2016 11: 48
    0
    «cruelty for no reason"Is an inappropriate way for America to wage war in the XNUMXst century."

    Top cynicism, double standards and pretentious arrogance. The diagnosis is clear - a split personality on the background of a mania of persecution.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 24 March 2016 01: 50
      0
      This is the maidan of the brain! Representatives of the most "exclusive" type of nation on the planet have long been the source and carrier of this disease. Unfortunately, former Ukrainians are the most difficult to tolerate (are happy to get sick) this disease, although most Europeans also cannot boast of immunity.
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  • ruAlex
    ruAlex 23 March 2016 12: 08
    +2
    At the moment, European leaders, as well as their counterparts in Washington, seem to have no other vision of EU relations with Russia, except for making a “scapegoat” from Moscow, thereby covering up “their own mistakes.”

    That's just for these reasons, and not only are now blowing up Brussels.
  • Michael
    Michael 23 March 2016 12: 48
    +3
    Quote: ruAlex
    At the moment, European leaders, as well as their counterparts in Washington, seem to have no other vision of EU relations with Russia, except for making a “scapegoat” from Moscow, thereby covering up “their own mistakes.”

    That's just for these reasons, and not only are now blowing up Brussels.

    This is not a miss, but a strategy. America needs a blazing Eurasia - capital flight to a "safe haven", elimination of competitors, and so on. etc.
  • tundra
    tundra 23 March 2016 12: 59
    +1
    Well, of course, the American journalist immediately puts in, “none of the future presidents” tells his military pilots to drop bombs “on bazaars in settlements, as Mr. Putin did in Idlib and Aleppo.” According to Stevens, “cruelty for no reason” is the wrong way for America to wage war in the XNUMXst century ...
    I’m crying out of emotion.
    What, noble and humane Americans.
    Ugh, you see, bastards!
    Not medicine here is powerless, only if surgery,
    with predictable death.
    usa must be destroyed.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 24 March 2016 01: 54
      0
      Quote: tundra
      usa must be destroyed

      Destroyed! Just destroyed as a state entity. We are not "exceptional" to kill or spread rot all who oppose us, we can negotiate!
  • motor gunner88
    motor gunner88 23 March 2016 13: 45
    -3
    All quilted jackets of "great" Russia have one panic fear: Obama the monkey sleeps and sees how to seize Russia, and only thinks about it. America, according to the speculations of Putin's electorate, wants to subjugate and enslave us, to take away from us everything that we have. It's funny to you? - But not cotton wool, which really believes in such myths for the narrow-minded.

    Let's make at least a superficial comparison of Russia and America and answer the question: Is today's Russia even a little rival to America? Who depends on whom?

    Have you ever seen a Lada Priora or Volga drive in California, Florida, Illinois? So I have not seen, but I often observe patriotic owners of Ford and Chevrolet passing through the streets of Moscow, having hung their vehicles with St. George's ribbons and naming "Obama".

    Have you seen how a native of America buys a Russian Yotafon on credit for his girlfriend? Has anyone ever watched as a huge crowd of Americans lined up when announcing the sale of Russian phones in America, wanting to get them?

    How many small potato eateries can be found in the States and how often are they eaten there? In Russia, in almost every city we have American McDonald's, Rostiks, Burgers, Subways, etc. Russian patriots, eating in them, noticeably replenish the American treasury.

    Do Americans use Russian software, like we use windows or mac every day? Oh, sorry, Russian famous software does not exist in nature.

    How many residents of the United States stand in line for tickets for concert tours in America for such performers as Stas Mikhailov, Butyrka, Guf, Valeria? When American top artists such as Metallica, Linkin Park, Green Day, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Papa Roach, Offspring and many others come to Russia, tickets usually disperse even before the concerts begin. And our mediocre musicians in America, it seems, are not needed by anyone, with the exception of certain perverts who are in any country.

    Remember that patriotic Putinist Mikhalkov’s films become box office leaders in the US? I have not seen this, but you can often watch a Russian audience trying not to miss new Hollywood pictures. And, again, the American treasury is filled.

    And then there are American clothes, musical instruments, furniture, cosmetics and many other "State Department" things that the Russian patriot uses. And what is our use in America?

    As you can see, the "great" Rossiyushka with Putin and braces is now far from competing with prosperous America. Most likely, it should fight for geopolitical supremacy with some Nigeria. I am exaggerating a little about Nigeria, but you get the point. America is a global supplier of technology, software, film and music industries, mechanical engineering, food service chains, clothing and much more. What are we? But we do have Iskanders, let Obamka shake in hysterics and envy us.
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 23 March 2016 14: 21
      +4
      You are not a motorized rifle, you are a schnick and do not hang the flag of Russia on the profile picture, you do not live in my country.
      1. motor gunner88
        motor gunner88 23 March 2016 14: 27
        -6
        what the fart blazed? you’ll detonate the mascara.
      2. boris-1230
        boris-1230 23 March 2016 15: 45
        +2
        All quilted jackets of "great" Russia have one panic fear: Obama the monkey sleeps and sees how to seize Russia, and only thinks about it. America, according to the speculations of Putin's electorate, wants to subjugate and enslave us, to take away from us everything that we have. It's funny to you? - But not cotton wool, which really believes in such myths for the narrow-minded.

        Living in a country and shitting on the heads of their fellow citizens is so liberal! Early Stalin left us! fool PS
        motor gunner88
        atavark change to yellow-black, the color of the snot loose by you! negative
    2. Air defense Valga
      Air defense Valga 23 March 2016 14: 32
      -1
      Change flag, dummy.
    3. Docent1984
      Docent1984 23 March 2016 17: 23
      +4
      We answer in order.

      1) In China, they don’t drive our cars either, because they are blocked up. We have, like in any impoverished country with a ramshackle economy, in all car dealerships there are lines for new cars. Look to compare the statistics of sales of new cars in the United States. And yes, 30 years ago, we also all rode on used Lada and Muscovites. Someone was buying new ones. So they have now.

      2) Regarding telephones - well, if you consider them an American product, then the arguments end. And if you face the truth, well, a no brainer that Chinese rabsila is cheaper than any in the world, except for free. But we don’t have work at all, so no one wants to work for that kind of money))) Well, that’s logical!)

      3) Normal people in fast food, in principle, do not eat. Or home-made borsch, or a normal dining room, or a decent cafe. If you personally eat polymers from all sorts of McDonald's, well, the road is there for you)))

      4) There is Russian software, but not consumer goods, for special purposes. If they are not familiar to you, your problems. And rockets to change jeans - this is for you in the Kiev region, where such a topic is popular now.

      5) Before Mr. Leps was denied an Amer visa, he did on 3 a concert there on a weekly tour. By the way, in Albert Hall in London, too, went with a bang) And about Metallica - it's cool) Maybe Frank Senatra remember again?)

      6) For the sake of interest, somehow read what types of wired communication networks are used in America, what is their usual access speed for citizens, how much this connection costs. You will be very surprised, this is not going to converge with your theory about their supertechnologies)))

      7) With furniture amerskoy generally krantik))) Do you at least believe in it yourself? Or do you have a sequoia stool at home?))) Well, the clothes are there too) Did you remember the "railway" jeans? Maybe you forgot what year it is? 93rd, as it were long gone)))

      Well and so on)
      1. Manul
        Manul 23 March 2016 22: 50
        0
        Quote: Docent1984
        We answer in order.

        1) In China, they don’t drive our cars either, because they are blocked up. We have, like in any impoverished country with a ramshackle economy, in all car dealerships there are lines for new cars. Look to compare the statistics of sales of new cars in the United States. And yes, 30 years ago, we also all rode on used Lada and Muscovites. Someone was buying new ones. So they have now.

        2) Regarding telephones - well, if you consider them an American product, then the arguments end. And if you face the truth, well, a no brainer that Chinese rabsila is cheaper than any in the world, except for free. But we don’t have work at all, so no one wants to work for that kind of money))) Well, that’s logical!)
        ...
        Well and so on)

        Hats off, very capacious !!! hi It’s even a pity that the posts of this pseudo motorized rifle were deleted. Firstly, it seems like he didn’t violate anything especially with his mediocre trolling, and secondly, your wonderful detailed answer hangs in the air for some reason. But thank you all the same.
      2. Yugan Oleg
        Yugan Oleg 23 March 2016 23: 47
        -2
        Well, you sir apparently were born yesterday :).
        1) I mixed everything and adjusted the conclusion to my liking.
        2) And they drum into our heads that we have to work "Much and for a gift"
        3) I quote.Normal people in fast food, in principle, do not eat. Or home-made borsch, or a normal dining room, or a decent cafe. If you personally eat polymers from all sorts of McDonald's, well, the road is there for you)))
        We Normal people are Olegarchs. We want to eat well, but it doesn’t work. There is NO MONEY. and every day there are fewer and fewer of them - the Dollar is falling, there is no work, and if there is something for Borsch, there will not be enough every day. Here is such arithmetic. For EXAMPLE, what you bought for 1 thousand rubles yesterday, today you will take 2 thousand.
        4) The software that is written by our Super programmers in the West, the students roll over once or twice. For example, how many programmers and electronics engineers do you know who are capable of assembling a Personal computer on "Rassypukh" which is not inferior to an aybiem. And those who can have been in the west for a long time or like Ginsberg (I may be mistaken in the spelling of the surname) are plowing for foreign companies and they do not let rockets, Protons have just been falling like snow.
        Well, about Jeans and nothing to talk about. Walk around town and see how many people are wearing jeans ????? And most importantly in what. The average Russian cannot afford Dzhinsy for 5 thousand rubles. WHEN PAYING AT 15. and for Deputies, Russians get 30 -35. And they cost 5 thousand at a rate of 30 rubles per dollar. How much will it cost now? Duck not long to wait in the 80s Jeans "Montana" were worth the salary - DOES NOT REMEMBER ANYTHING.
        Well, and the rest of your items -BRAD VICTIMS OF HIM
        1. Docent1984
          Docent1984 24 March 2016 13: 46
          0
          I will not be too lazy to answer you either.

          To begin with, dear, before accusing someone of illiteracy, look in the dictionary and make sure that the word "thousand" is written without a soft sign) And if about EG, then at the time of its inception I already received my first diploma of higher education , so finger to the sky, as is often the case)

          A lot about work and tell it for free not to me (I work a lot, but for normal money), but to those who have not left a single square meter of living space in my yard, having filled it with machines from a million and more). Or to my engineers, who in "bad" months receive 18 thousand rubles and whine how little it turned out ... This is 2 years after graduation) And I work in an ordinary design scuffle, of which there are dozens even in our city)

          The topic about "rising in price" products has already set the teeth on edge. For 2 years now, every week I myself have been buying all the products for my family, I compare prices, I know which product costs up to a ruble) So, imagine, March 14th and March 16th in my grocery set, which practically does not change, has a price an awful 13% increase))) I emphasize, we are talking about food and TPN) If butter in my "Lenta" has cost 350r per 1kg for a year, what are we talking about?

          About the programmers. There is such an institution in my city - the Central Design Bureau "Titan". Well, this is what "Iskanderchiki" produces. Think about it, the computer that controls this entire system is also doing there))) And there is also such a small factory "OkeanPribor", and there, horrible, radar stations are doing) Something you seriously think that there are gnawed apples in the filling?)))

          Yes, and in jeans for 3,5 with an average salary even for my not the richest city in 24 thousand, you can completely afford to go for a walk) I’m silent about the neighboring Rostov-on-Don) And personally I prefer classic costumes)

          Lunch in a decent dining room of 3 dishes costs 180 rub. We spend about 300 rubles on a normal diet of home-cooked meals for two. in a day. And among my friends there are no people who are starving.

          In general, my dear, you should look through Russian language textbooks) Otherwise, a very sad picture comes out of your attempts) It should be a shame)
  • afrikanez
    afrikanez 23 March 2016 15: 41
    0
    So what Americans should learn is that they would not stick their nose into other people's affairs. angry
  • RussianBear
    RussianBear 23 March 2016 15: 49
    +1
    I am a representative of the younger generation. I am 20 years old, what can I say about the political situation? I do not really understand what is happening in the world as a whole, but I think it will be interesting for you to know the opinion of "the future of our country." In perspective, not positive, already realistic, one can see that the polarity in geopolitics will change dramatically. There is fertile soil for this, which is already being actively "grown" by all the players in the political arena. Yes, yes, everyone, without exception, we breathe the same air, after all) I want to give you "seeds" as an example:
    1. The US foreign economic debt has already exceeded $ 100000 per capita. (It's like a bubble, it will burst sooner or later, and it has been bothering for a long time)
    2. Establishment of cooperation agreements in various fields of India, China and Russia.
    3. Strengthening Russian positions on the geopolitical map of the world.
    4. The problem of Europe with migrants.
    Etc.
    It seems to me that large-scale changes are brewing in the world and they are definitely for the better.
    The only question is what kind of dirty trick the US will throw on its dying bed.
  • motor gunner88
    motor gunner88 23 March 2016 16: 23
    -2
    Living in a country and shitting on the heads of their fellow citizens is so liberal! Early Stalin left us!

    Yes, where exactly I shit ??? is there even a word of untruth ??
    . US Foreign Economic Debt Has Exceeded $ 100000 Per Capita

    so grab a quick currency mortgage. Ms. dolly will soon collapse with America.
    1. Tired
      Tired 23 March 2016 17: 23
      +1
      I have already written about the polarization and formation of two systems that, on the one hand, are inapplicable enemies, and on the other hand, they completely suit big business. So, one part is a reactionary polarity - religious fanaticism, leaderism (for this, the browns even attribute Stalin to themselves), myths about the millennial Russian Empire, hatred of the rule of law and the ideas of humanism, the cult of hatred and strength. The other part goes into pure nihilism under the pretext that if something is bad, then something is bad and wrong all at once. In your commentary, you allowed yourself to go just into the second polarity. That is, you wrote everything point by point, but you missed important details without which, in general, your comment is not correct. First, the fact that Russia is located on the outskirts of the world capitalist system does not prevent it from being a target for major players. The economic and social situation is really sad (with sadness I remember the hospital where they took me (and after all, during my childhood there was a whole san-town there)). You ignore the military aspect (in particular, the Russian Federation has strategic nuclear weapons). Western capitalists do not need any obstacles, and Russia, as a nuclear power, is a priori such an obstacle. You ignore the resource aspect. Yes, the Russian Federation is far from the only supplier of resources to the countries of the West and East, but the supplier is significant and at this level the interests of Russia collide with the interests of other exporting countries. Countries that have special relations with the United States (such as CA). To top it off, we can recall the territory and, as a result, water resources, which have recently become more and more valuable. Secondly, you allowed yourself excessive pretentiousness in your statements. Propaganda works on both sides and it would be wiser not to divide the world into "quilted jackets" and "liberals", but with a critical attitude approaches the analysis of serious incidents both in world and domestic politics and economy.
  • Ramzes33
    Ramzes33 23 March 2016 16: 26
    0
    The dog barks, the caravan goes.
  • RussianBear
    RussianBear 23 March 2016 16: 49
    +2
    And to hell with her, with America) As if the whole world were holding on to her. This is ridiculous.
  • vladcotic
    vladcotic 24 March 2016 00: 34
    +3
    I do not really like our power. Yes, I relate to Putin without much piety. But the foreign policy successes over the past year are obvious: the annexation of Crimea, assistance to Syria, assistance to the Donbass, etc. But I do not accept the internal policy of the president and his entourage at all. In addition to frank chatter and demagogy, there are only failures. We need a new government and a normal premiere, reform of the management system and a number of others. But Putin is not going to do any of this and it annoys people. Now we are talking about succession and non-succession of power. For whom? For official thieves? In all normal countries, the president or the head of the cabinet is elected, and we are appointed. This is our Russian know-how. Nowhere is this. Therefore, if there are no reforms, then we will begin a complete collapse of the economy. Everyone understands this. and leadership continues to bend its line. So a very difficult future awaits us.
  • ILIA
    ILIA 24 March 2016 02: 43
    0
    It seems to me that everything will end with a global scuffle .... as always however ..
  • Wolka
    Wolka 24 March 2016 06: 27
    +1
    it's not even a matter of strategy and tactics and the effective use of force in resolving conflicts, all matters are in the money allocated for the "war" by world tycoons, business, however, who is the war, and who is mother ... and a bad example is contagious, for example, the results of franco - the Prussian war, then Germany made good money having received a solid contribution from France, and so all wars pursue only one goal of enriching some at the expense of others, and this is the whole essence of the war, politics is the very minimum, a screen and only
  • Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 24 March 2016 16: 50
    +2
    If the enemy praises you, then you are doing something wrong ...
    1. cap
      cap 28 March 2016 04: 16
      0
      Quote: Former Combat
      If the enemy praises you, then you are doing something wrong ...


      And you are absolutely right!