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Ex-engineer of the British Navy: the terrorists will not be difficult to penetrate the Trident submarine.

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Terrorists can easily penetrate British nuclear submarines, as there is no proper control there, said former British Navy engineer William McNelly in an exclusive interview with the channel RT. This is his first interview since he first talked about gaps in the Trident submarine safety system last year.




“To get on board a submarine, you only need a couple of fake IDs. We know that groups like the "Islamic State" are able to forge documents well. Every year they lose thousands of certificates of the Royal Navy. They may well get these groups. In the UK, more and more people are undergoing radicalization - it is likely that one of them could fall into the hands of such a document, ”said Macnelli.

He noted that "unlike airports, where they carefully inspect the contents of all carried items, at the military facilities of the British Navy are much simpler rules."

“You can carry any bags, boxes on board - they simply do not check. For example, during patrols, an 181 man was on board. All carried large bags on board. Nobody checked them. What if there was a bomb in one of them? ”Said the engineer.

McNally was in the spotlight of the press in May on 2015, when he openly pointed out weaknesses in the submarine safety system at the Clyde base. He noted that "getting into the boat is easier than in most nightclubs." According to him, “most of the equipment of the nuclear submarine is in poor condition, some even malfunctioning. And the missile bay is used as a gym. ”

RT appealed to the British military department for comment, and they replied that at the Clyde naval base "strict security measures are being observed and it is absurd to assume otherwise."

However, the Trident system has become the subject of heated debate in government and in parliament. Soon the authorities should determine whether the specified system needs to be updated.

The British public is against the Trident program.

“Imagine a list of arguments against - it is huge, you can compile a book in several volumes. At the same time, there is only one weak argument for keeping the Trident system, and this is nuclear deterrence. Did it keep us from interfering in recent wars? Take, for example, Afghanistan: Will this system restrain Afghan radicals? No, they will not, because they know that we will not apply nuclear weapon in their countries. The presence of this system in our country is a kind of beacon for radicals, so that they come here and organize terrorist acts. This, on the contrary, can bring Britain to its knees, ”says McNally.

“It seemed to me that from the inside these problems would not be solved, that I would be able to influence this issue only by making the data public. Then at least I'll know what I tried. Do not do what I would? I would continue to work, and then what? Part of the blame would be on me, because I did not do anything. I ruined my career and lost a lot of money, but my conscience is clear. Had something happened, I at least know that I warned people. Everything else is unimportant, ”he said.
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  1. Palladin
    Palladin 29 February 2016 17: 17
    +7
    “You can carry any bags, boxes on board - they simply are not checked. So, for example, during patrols there were 181 people on board. Everyone carried large bags aboard. Nobody checked them. What if there was a bomb in one of them? ”

    It’s even worse than in Hohland request
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 February 2016 17: 19
      +9
      There, the development of security and control systems was carried out by "British scientists" - that says it all.
      1. Pravdarm
        Pravdarm 29 February 2016 17: 24
        13
        Who receive grants for research such as "sexually transmitted diseases in ladybirds!" laughing
        the influence of the color of the uniform of football players on the quality of their game;
        * perfect sandwich devices;
        * Scale of types of feces.
        * sexual orientation of violators of traffic rules;
        * evidence of lack of use when swallowing magnets;
        * study the behavior of bees pumped with cocaine;
        * what is umbilical mud;
        * Does cow magnetism exist?
        * whether angels and fairies can fly;
        * what happens to the pig after the explosion;
        * the origin of people from outer space;
        * a foil hat will not save from aliens;
        * British scientists will calculate pedophiles by keyboard "handwriting";
        * Facebook leads to syphilis;
        * production of hangover-free vodka (in fact, heavier alcohols than ethanol cause a hangover, so this is all right - you just need to better clean the booze);
        * aliens can harm earthlings;
        * The British scientist for a year passed with a wireless chip containing a computer virus implanted in his body;
        * the effect of dry winds on the genitals of grasshoppers;
        * British scientists: the first appeared chicken, not an egg;
        * British scientists found out why ugly women do not exist, but there is little vodka;
        * British scientists invented dry water
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    3. The black
      The black 29 February 2016 17: 19
      10
      “You can carry any bags, boxes on board - they simply do not check. For example, during patrols, an 181 man was on board. All carried large bags on board. Nobody checked them. What if there was a bomb in one of them? ”Said the engineer.
      More like a hint for terrorists ... or a briefing ...
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 29 February 2016 17: 53
        +1
        Quote: Black
        More like a hint for terrorists ... or a briefing ...
        Or lure? laughing
        Something "It seems to me, gentlemen, it was ... a comedy" (film "The Man from Boulevard des Capucines") Otherwise, all the British ships and Britons would have been stuffed to the eyeballs long ago! fellow And - ON FASHINGTON! Alla, I'm at the bar!
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 29 February 2016 18: 13
        +3
        Quote: Black
        More like a hint for terrorists ... or a briefing ...

        Attempt to dislodge additional financing
        1. Altona
          Altona 29 February 2016 19: 52
          -1
          Quote: APASUS
          Attempt to dislodge additional financing

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          Yes, they basically need it for a long time. The Falkland expedition showed that the British Navy is a rabble of rusty trash, not a military fleet. Margaret Thatcher almost kicked the admirals, who had grown fat from the sinecure, on board. In general, overpowering Argentina was still that ...
    4. Michael67
      Michael67 29 February 2016 17: 19
      +4
      Not only have they set fire to the floor of the world.
      Now they can substitute the ecology of the whole world under the martyr belt aboard the apl.
      Pheasants are colored.
      1. Samen
        Samen 29 February 2016 17: 23
        +2
        Bearded, too, watching TV. They are sitting. Inspect ...
    5. Finches
      Finches 29 February 2016 17: 24
      +2
      I think that the red-haired Anglo-Saxon wanted to cut the dough with ISIS, or from another peacekeeping organization, to become famous, and to revenge a little that he was .. laughing
      1. Atrix
        Atrix 29 February 2016 17: 42
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        become famous, and a little revenge that he ex ..

        I fully support you, too, I think that this is just a desire to light up on TV, and nothing more. Such "experts from Russia" on the Ukrainian media chutli do not every day twist how bad everything in the Russian army is and that it does not exist.
    6. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 29 February 2016 17: 31
      +4
      Damn, I’ve thought all my life on a submarine that you can get only to the crew or accompanied by the command staff of the involved persons for a visual inspection, etc. Saxons Th turnstiles on the mooring ladder and put a sauces from the chop? request
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 29 February 2016 17: 42
        0
        Tolerance, freedom, privacy ... And no one can tell them anything.
        And then the terrorists. Yes gentlemen, requiring a dictatorship, limiting freedoms, movements and much more. Otherwise there will be PUK.
      2. jjj
        jjj 29 February 2016 18: 05
        +2
        Quote: Major Yurik
        Damn, I’ve thought all my life on a submarine that you can get only to the crew or accompanied by the command staff of the involved persons for a visual inspection, etc. Saxons Th turnstiles on the mooring ladder and put a sauces from the chop?

        At first I also thought. And then I read about the crew members with big bags ...
        By the way, reading earlier from translated British sources about the low moral and psychological state of British submariners, I became convinced that they could not cope with us. In Soviet times, it happened that some people in our country were engaged in self-harm in order not to go to the autonomous system. But on the other hand, the crew manually deactivated the Hiroshima compartments with rags.
    7. Atrix
      Atrix 29 February 2016 17: 40
      +4
      How much can you trust this expert ??? Did he try to carry something or does he think so ??? I’m just struck by the reaction of people to the expert’s laptops and everyone immediately supports them. And if tomorrow CNN or BBC, they’ll only show such a Russian name that says that it’s not a problem to capture a submarine or a launching mine or a mobile complex. Do you also believe right away ??? Let the journalists conduct an experiment and try to penetrate the Trident nuclear submarines and see what happens. And you can say anything, the main thing is where the evidence is.
      1. kote119
        kote119 29 February 2016 18: 38
        0
        it says about the crew
    8. vovanpain
      vovanpain 29 February 2016 17: 45
      +8
      “You can carry any bags, boxes on board - they simply are not checked. So, for example, during patrols there were 181 people on board. Everyone carried large bags aboard. Nobody checked them. What if there was a bomb in one of them? ”

      In fact, I generally thought that the security system at such objects was the strictest and the arrogant Saxons were not noticed in sloppiness, but here are such revelations, yes. request
      1. Maxom75
        Maxom75 29 February 2016 18: 39
        0
        Amers won on the basis of the Navy generally shot people, the arrow was caught by several aces, and you are talking about security and rigor. Is gossip, drug addiction and alcoholism on duty shift officers at the command posts of US strategic missiles is this news? Lost nuclear warheads and missiles and bombs. All this pops up, well, just the military does not want to take the dirt out of the hut both here and there. Recently, our people simply began to hold on to a place and respect themselves, and they feel that the people respect and love the army, and they value honor and place. The Anglo-Saxons are much worse, they relaxed there, not seeing a worthy opponent and can not concentrate. Hence the gouging and the swine attitude to the service.
    9. Maxom75
      Maxom75 29 February 2016 18: 05
      +8
      I hope we are not. When I was standing I (sentry at the outpost) was then still a "spirit" and did not know all the commanders by sight. The commander of the detachment came to us, it was a rainy day and he, dressed in a tracksuit and a raincoat, went through the gate in the gate and moved along the alley to the corps of the outpost. The place we had was a resort, many local drunkenly piled up to us, they were forbidden to shoot. Well, a young eye on his forehead, the man is breaking into the territory, I shouted at him as expected, he brushed it off. As I taught the cartridge in the chamber and a shot in the air, he was taken aback and froze. In short, I put him in a puddle with his face, when he emerged he demanded to call the chief. I called. The head of the outpost rushed in with a shement, picked him up and from behind me showed me that now I was finished. Returning from the outfit, I learned that the boss ordered me to be assigned to the sentries for a week, and to wash the floors in my free time. So I wash the floor from the outfit and the head of the detachment is walking, I got up to miss. he looked at me and asked: "did you put me in a puddle?" I say: "That's right. I beg your pardon, Comrade General." He smiled and said: "Why do you wash the floors instead of rest?" I answer: "Order of the outpost commander." General: "Because of me?" I don't know. The general sent me to rest, and he himself said that he would figure it out. in the evening, on a combat crew, they gave me gratitude with the entry into my personal file with the motivation "for conscientious service." The order of the outpost commander was canceled, and the commander hated me. For a whole year he substituted and tried to push him away for good, now in Abkhazia, now in a Tajik. Another general returned from MMG, I also distinguished myself in service there. I just did not like carelessness and still hate this trait in people. For this reason, others usually die.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 29 February 2016 18: 15
        0
        Good story.
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 29 February 2016 21: 49
          +3
          Quote: Pereira
          Good story.

          Yes, for this ten days of vacation laid. The sentinel’s actions are absolutely literate. Himself, as a cadet cadet, he somehow had to put him in the snow. There is an inviolable person on the watch. Sentinel immunity is:

          in special protection by the legislation of the Russian Federation of his rights and personal dignity;
          in submission to strictly defined persons - to the chief of the guard, the assistant to the chief of the guard and his guard;
          it is the duty of all persons to comply implicitly with the requirements of the sentry determined by his service;
          in granting him the right to use weapons in the cases specified in this Charter.
          All persons approaching the post or the forbidden border of the post indicated on the terrain by signs, except for the head of the guard, the assistant to the head of the guard, his guide and those accompanied by them, the sentry stops with the cry “Stop, back” or “Stop, go right (left) ".
          If this requirement is not met and the forbidden border of the post is crossed, the sentry warns the offender with the cry “Stop, I will shoot” and delays him. The sentry informs about the detention of the violator in the guardhouse, monitors his behavior and, without weakening his attention, continues to guard the post entrusted to him.
          If the intruder continues to move after the warning “Stop, I will shoot”, the sentry sends the cartridge to the chamber and makes a warning shot up. If the violator fails to comply with this warning or puts him to flight, the sentry uses a weapon against him.
          1. Mikhalych 70
            Mikhalych 70 29 February 2016 22: 23
            0
            How he returned to his youth ...
          2. Maxom75
            Maxom75 29 February 2016 23: 54
            +1
            Ten days of vacation? Me for this in a private matter beg. outposts in the amount of 25 days lips unsubscribed. it saved only that the people were few and if sent on the lip it would remain to drag 14 people, and this was physically few. And they demobilized me only because the new chief of the detachment was a tough boss, and already they sent me and another sergeant to a business trip to the first Chechen one. But by then the time for service had expired and sent home, so I passed the fate of many of the innocent victims of the storming of Grozny. sorry for the guys.
    10. GSH-18
      GSH-18 29 February 2016 18: 26
      0
      And if the cockroaches want to stick the British nuclear warhead from Trident-2? And then where is the thread choking? am You can find specialists for such a terrorist attack for good loot!
    11. sub307
      sub307 29 February 2016 19: 29
      0
      Palladin
      "... It's even worse there than in Hohland ..."
      This is someone like ..., some of our units (hinting at swimmers) trained in the hijacking of warships (they were already prepared in the "Soyuz") this fact (if "FACT") is even BETTER .... And in Khokhlyandiya why steal then? In the case itself: "steal" - so "Trident"!
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    13. Altona
      Altona 29 February 2016 19: 55
      0
      Quote: Palladin
      It’s even worse than in Hohland

      ----------------
      Let's just say the same. In general, the man is well done, because the atomic submarine is not a patrol boat or a border boat. It smells so that little will not seem to all of Europe.
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  3. pavelty
    pavelty 29 February 2016 17: 23
    +1
    some, in my opinion ... not smart
  4. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 29 February 2016 17: 24
    +3
    Somehow I can’t believe that everything is so bad there (If you do not see the policeman, this does not mean that he is not). But the former engineer once again calls for vigilance, which in principle is commendable. Relaxing with such military facilities is simply impossible.
    1. Alf
      Alf 29 February 2016 22: 15
      0
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      Relaxing with such military facilities is simply impossible.

      But you can hire Seagal for filming Under Siege-3.
  5. Palladin
    Palladin 29 February 2016 17: 26
    +3
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    Somehow I can’t believe that everything is so bad there (If you don’t see the policeman, this does not mean that he is not there.) But the former engineer once again calls for vigilance, which in principle is commendable. Relaxing with such military facilities is simply impossible.


    It was necessary to think about this before putting such objects into operation. request
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 29 February 2016 17: 29
      +1
      I don’t think the British have missed anything in this sense. They have always had an exemplary navy. If the desire to make it better is taken for criticism, then it is not scary, "scary - when everything is normal."
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  6. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 29 February 2016 17: 28
    +3
    Yes, this cannot be ... They cannot become idiots all at once ... It seems like self-promotion ... hi
    1. MASK
      MASK 29 February 2016 17: 36
      +4
      Quote: VadimLives
      Yes, this cannot be ... They cannot become idiots all at once ... It seems like self-promotion ... hi

      Red-haired PR and wants to take revenge .. (fired, see for something) Such and we have "offended", but with them a short conversation!
  7. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 29 February 2016 17: 33
    +3
    Well, flood your fleet and sleep peacefully. And cut the rockets ...
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 29 February 2016 17: 36
    +3
    Yeah .. and after this statement make some sort of sabotage and announce that the terrorists who infiltrated the submarine did this. Excellent! fellow
  9. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 29 February 2016 17: 40
    +2
    I ruined my career and lost a ton of money, but my conscience is clear. If something happens, I at least know that I warned people
    Weak comfort. But CONSCIENCE is clean. And it costs a lot. And if it's all true about discipline in the Royal Navy, then things are bad there, you can say a mess. And if the gun hangs, it will fire.
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  10. yuriy55
    yuriy55 29 February 2016 17: 42
    +2
    laughing
    How I like these "fearless, red-haired British engineers" with their skill let in leave in English, leaving after leaving a wide open hatch and instructions for use ... wassat Pretty boy wassat

    I have no doubt that soon one of the officials can primly report that the British nuclear submarine was seized ("Capture-3) ... request
    And are these people going to defeat our fleet? Yes, the severity of our Northern Fleet sailors is such that the icebergs in front of them line up, like in a parade. And the warmth and sincerity of the Black Sea Fleet sailors is forcing to build bases in Crimea, so as not to accidentally melt the ice of Antarctica, which can easily wash off the British Isles, their nuclear submarines, and vigilant naval engineers, along with the terrorists who got on board and their false identities , British scientists and ladybugs infected with sexually transmitted diseases ... laughing
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 29 February 2016 17: 44
      +1
      Quote: yuriy55
      laughing
      How I like these "fearless, red-haired British engineers" with their skill let in leave in English, leaving after leaving a wide open hatch and instructions for use ... wassat Pretty boy wassat

      I have no doubt that soon one of the officials can primly report that the British nuclear submarine was seized (Capture-3) ... And these people were going to defeat our fleet? Yes, the severity of our Northern Fleet sailors is such that icebergs they line up in front of them, as in a parade, while the warmth and soulfulness of the Black Sea Fleet sailors forces them to build bases in the Crimea, so as not to inadvertently melt the ice of Antarctica, which can easily wash away the British Isles, their nuclear submarines, and vigilant naval engineers, along with the terrorists who boarded and their fake IDs ...

      You have a talent! Let's write please, do not stop ...
      1. MASK
        MASK 29 February 2016 17: 50
        +3
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        You have a talent! Let's write please, do not stop ...

        I also liked it! good laughing
      2. yuriy55
        yuriy55 29 February 2016 17: 51
        +4
        Thank! But this is so, by itself escaped ...
        1. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 29 February 2016 17: 57
          +1
          Talent! ))) And no need to make excuses. )))
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  11. triglav
    triglav 29 February 2016 17: 46
    +1
    Well done! I respect
  12. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 29 February 2016 18: 01
    0
    Euronews reported a few days ago that Britain is now discussing the feasibility of upgrading the Trident submarines.
  13. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 29 February 2016 18: 09
    +5
    What he said about security holes at a military base -
    OK. And it’s easy to dispose of - to put equipment, like at the airport.
    But he begins to cut about the uselessness of nuclear weapons, etc.
    And this is more likely leftist political views than concern for
    security from terrorists.
    1. Mercenary
      Mercenary 29 February 2016 19: 04
      0
      Who do you work for? For me, let them disarm unilaterally. Unfortunately, we have experience 1986-2000.
  14. russmensch
    russmensch 29 February 2016 18: 52
    +1
    Guys, for some reason I tend to believe him. As an example - here you all almost served in command positions. Surely most of you had to have such an attribute as a "disturbing" suitcase. And they wore it to the field reviews, they probably checked its contents, and in alarm they rushed to the unit with it. But did anyone check what you are carrying in an alarming suitcase when you rush on alarm and run through the checkpoint? Yes, I give my head to cut off, which would not have occurred to anyone. And where did they take him? That's right, in the warhead of the installation on which you go on the march. I don’t know how it is today, but I don’t think that anything in the order has changed.
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 1 March 2016 01: 47
      0
      In the military units of the USSR, it was customary to know in person all the higher authorities! hi
      1. russmensch
        russmensch 1 March 2016 10: 02
        0
        And who will guarantee that the boss is not an enemy? How many of them were there ... And they hijacked planes (hijacking the SU-25 to Japan), and traded secrets (General Kulagin, a KGB employee), betrayed agents, etc. ... by the "decree" of a superior "chief"? ...
  15. Mercenary
    Mercenary 29 February 2016 19: 02
    0
    Where did the FSB look? Such an opportunity was to destroy the entire vigorous submarine fleet of the adversary. It's a shame from missed opportunities. laughing
  16. hobot
    hobot 29 February 2016 19: 12
    0
    Scouts are trapped.
  17. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 29 February 2016 20: 26
    0
    There is no such submarine Trident. Trident is missiles to submarines "Ohio" and "Vanguard"
  18. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 29 February 2016 22: 26
    0
    Thought who the redhead looked like? I realized: on Milonov, our deputy, who is fighting with a non-traditional orientation.
  19. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 1 March 2016 03: 32
    0
    The fruits of the vaunted "village of m.o. kratia". When everything is possible and everyone has the right to everything. Reap ... fellow
  20. Horn
    Horn 1 March 2016 08: 06
    0
    Preparing society for a terrorist attack using nuclear weapons? Type: it’s not us, it is the evil bearded terrorists who rocketed a rocket?