Putin's vector

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Putin's vector


I wanted to briefly go over what was "Putin's foreign policy" (I don’t really want to remember Yeltsin and Gorbachev, so we will not). So, it may surprise many, but Putin did not start as an “anti-Western”. Yes, this is exactly the case, if you remember how it all began in 2000. I will say more, by nature and views and life experience, Putin is a man of European orientation. Peter, East Germany ... Capitalism is raging in 2000 in Russia. Paradoxically, by the wildest machinations it was impossible to put at the head of Russia a more adequate person and disposed to cooperate with Europe. Whatever anyone said, he was much more interesting with Schröder than with Chavez. With Chavez, he was not interested at all. People are too different. Putin is a pragmatist, not a charismatic and not a people's tribune. “Golden domes of Constantinople”, USSR-2, “the holy war of the Orthodox with the rotten West” - this is not to him at all. Incredibly sounds, but the GDP turned out to be forced to play a not very interesting role for him in the beginning confrontation between West and Russia.

Well, sometimes circumstances turn out to be stronger than a person, but in general, analyzing Vladimir Putin’s career and his foreign policy, one can stumble upon a funny paradox: he began as a pronounced “Westerner”. At the very beginning - an active and persistent attempt to "reach heaven" and find a common language with the West. Perhaps, he spent five years doing it, until he realized that something "did not fit in." And, of course, it’s strange: the democratically chosen and popular president is pro-Western - a great chance for friendship! At the same time, any Russian who is familiar with the Western press will confirm: anti-Putin propaganda has been going on almost continuously all this time. What? Why? What caused such a clear discord between potential partners? At the beginning of the "zero" Putin was not going to quarrel with either the United States or the EU. The main line at that time - partnership and economic cooperation. “Sovereign democracy” appeared much, much later. It is curious to me why the very first of his foreign policy impulse was left without a clear answer? After all, in fact, Putin was a much more consistent and serious Westerner than Latynina or Navalny.

Such a person, living in Germany, could easily fit into the structure of the German authorities ... Can you imagine Navalny in the Bundestag (even as a garbage collector)? In general, oddly enough, anyone, I emphasize, any successor to Putin will be much more cool about Germany. There is simply nothing for the Russians to love this country. Absolutely not at all. Such a chance, as with Putin, falls once in 100 years and then not always. And how did the Germans order them? Somehow, after all, it turned out that Putin is a cranberry patriot, a “primer”, and therefore the evil imperialists dream of “knocking over” him. And put a person more democratic and liberal. Such as Poroshenko. From harm, we will again conduct a frontal comparative analysis - who is the politician of a more Western, European type of these two? Putin or Poroshenko? Sorry, gentlemen, but Petro Poroshenko is anyone, but not a democratic European politician. Just in fact. Well, he did not come out with a face to European politics. Such faces on the European political Olympus are already a hundred years old but in fashion - too he, forgive, has devoured her to symbolize democracy in Eastern Europe.

Then what is it? What is the reason for such an absolute rejection of GDP in the EU? But the denial was complete, maximum, adamant - "Assad / Putin must go." "We must save the Russians ...". But why? Absolutely not clear. You know, I venture to make a guess - it’s not at all in Putin. The point is "Putin's politics." And these are completely different things. Propaganda is doing its job, and the GDP has become a kind of “checkpoint” of our defense. Of course, it looks great, but is it? No, if, for example, Russia was headed by another politician (I am for the poor, I am for the Russians), then the reaction of Europe to him would be understandable, and so - a mystery. I do not see in the person of the current president anything that could cause rejection from the “enlightened Europe”. Allegedly, at first everything was fine and nothing foreshadowed trouble, but then Putin changed dramatically - he became tough and authoritarian. It seems to me that the matter is a little different: our Western partners were expecting a completely different policy from Putin. And above all the Germans, but he struck them unpleasantly.

Whether we like it or not, countries are different in status. Moreover, there is no direct dependence here: for example, Saudi Arabia has been pursuing / pursuing a much more active policy than Japan, although compare the development of Japan and Riyadh. So, the same with Russia: after 1991, we dropped out of the "highest league" of world politics. Well, the planet "under the guise of" redrew. Without us. It is clear that the agreements reached were not recorded on paper (as in the Mafia). Nevertheless, these very agreements were reached very quickly. That is why immediately after the collapse of the Soviet Union began to tear apart Yugoslavia. And immediately. And it turned out to be funny - in 1948, Shitty year Tito had a row with Stalin. Proud was such a Josip Broz, independent. He was friends with the West, got loans there, everything was in the openwork. At the same time, the standard of living in the “independent” Yugoslavia was much higher than in the USSR or Bulgaria. By living standards and openness, Yugoslavia was just a dream: a country that combined the best features of socialism and capitalism. Independent of Moscow. Free In short, what Poroshenko and Lukashenko could dream of.

And then bombs fell on her. NATO bombs. First, of course, was the hard work with the nationalists, their training and arming. Civil war ... and like a cherry on a cake - NATO bombs on the heads of the Serbs. With which two generations have popularly explained that the main threat is from the east. And the SFRY did not enter into the Warsaw Pact, why? And so, bombs fell on a democratic, European country. Oddly enough - not Russian bombs. Other "former" went under the West voluntarily, but Yugoslavia had to bomb. And no one called it aggression. That is, we can observe on the map many countries, it is so colorful, this is the map itself. And all these countries shout about their “sovereignty”. Scream loudly. But all of these countries have owners. That is why accusations of aggression are constantly heard against Russia. We are starting to work in one of these “independent” countries, which are full of maps. We have money weapon and technology, we can offer them a lot, the same Bulgaria ... And in response from Brussels, there is an accusation of “Russian aggression”, for what, why? Still sovereign? Not certainly in that way. All these territories and countries already belong to someone. By the way, we were also “divided” and accrued, hence the degree of hatred towards “sovereign democracy” a la Surkov.

It seemed to us that an independent Russia is negotiating something in 2013 with an independent Ukraine. But from someone's point of view - it is disgusting and aggression. For quite a long time Putin just lined up relations with Europe, without paying any attention to it. In principle, the idea was logical: to increase trade and “in the course of the play,” step by step, agree on everything. Did not work. It didn’t work at all. It's about as if you screw the screw in for a long time with a screwdriver in an awkward place. You twist it, you twist it, you think - it is almost wrapped. But no - it turns out, he didn’t even take one turn. The problem of the current conflict with Europe is that the Ukrainian question was “solved” without Russia. They thought so. And all subsequent proposals of the Kremlin after February 22 did not receive a response. The question is closed, bye. And then the Kremlin decided to act. Also inconsistent with Europe. From here Crimea and Donbass. When the Russian troops took control of the Crimea and a referendum was announced, Merkel rushed to call Putin. But as you can imagine, it was a little late. The train has already left too. By the way, it's not about Putin. The laws of geopolitics are simple and cruel: in this situation, any adequate politician must act in the same way. Although, of course, not everyone would have the courage to do it.

So it's not about Putin. Absolutely. The thing is in Russian politics, and these are very different things. It was just that in this situation they did not leave other reasonable decisions. There was nothing to choose from. If he were a Westerner, three times more - it would not change the situation. By the way, as we all understand - this decision he took was not alone. Therefore, the Kremlin. "To dance tango, we need two" - quite a popular saying in the English-language political lexicon. Putin could simply be a “reference” Westerner - in the absence of oncoming movements it was all completely meaningless. Putin’s proposal to European leaders from the very beginning was very simple: let's do European politics together. This offer was met with icy silence. By the way, you will laugh: Yeltsin also wanted to stir up something like that. Together with France and Germany. Did not work. We are trying to draw some schemes on the map of Europe, we offer them some options, not understanding the simple fact that all this is superfluous and absolutely unnecessary. All European schemes have already been drawn, agreed and approved. Including in Ukraine, and in Belarus, and in Russia ... Imagine if you live in a house on the outskirts of the city, and some kind of "developer" decided to put a shopping center there ... Something like that. And you paint paints, shut off the roof.

It’s just that, as you understand, it’s not quite correct to publicly announce plans and future boundaries of “euro-Jewish”. It can cause a scandal, therefore, it is not publicly voiced, but there are plans, as it is easy to guess from the coordinated movements of Eastern European politicians. And it is just as easy to guess what future our “European partners” are preparing for us: look at Ukraine. Political chaos, bankrupt country, country-colony. And the invasion of "advisers" and European commissioners (in dusty helmets, who silently lean over the corpse of Ukraine). Therefore, all Putin's efforts were in vain - he was not heard and could not be heard. They did not hear it precisely because in the plans of these gentlemen the presence of a political center Moscow does not appear in principle. The crisis in Ukraine showed this vividly and vividly: Ukraine is a very large country, with an economy tied to Russia (2013). Sharply “reforming” it, not taking into account the opinion of Moscow, is extremely difficult, to put it mildly. After the Maidan and the Crimea, there were endless negotiations between Russia and Germany, France, the United States. So, what prevented them to hold up to all these events? Nothing but unwillingness to allow Russia to "serious issues." As a result of the uncoordinated actions of the world powers, there was a “collapse of Ukraine”. These are our pies. The whole country is erased from the map, and it is without nuclear weapons.

In fact, this is a fundamental decision not to allow Russia into a big European policy and led to the current crisis. That is not the case in the Crimea and not in Putin. The political crisis is systemic. Would not break in the Crimea - would break in another place. Thus, discussing the personal qualities of Vladimir Putin or the strategic importance of the Crimean peninsula is not a very meaningful exercise. The conflict is deeper: we ask them why they broke off the agreements signed with Yanukovych February 21, and they look at us like idiots. From their point of view, now big politics is done without Russia. As after the WWI, this policy was made without Russia and Germany, after WWII - without Germany and Japan. Russia's attempt to "meet" is declared "revisionism." The thing is that the “reformers” in 90's were “deceiving” us a little about the real agreements and the real situation in foreign policy. The problem is that we still live on the same planet: our independent actions immediately come up against their plans. At first glance, there is nothing terrible about it, it always has been, for this, diplomacy is needed. But they are not going to discuss anything with us — that is the problem: Milosevic must leave, Assad must leave, Yanukovych must leave ... Such things. So before the war, you can finish the game.

The last reservation is not accidental, diplomacy is an excellent means to prevent unnecessary wars. Everyone understands this. The problem is that in relations between Russia and the West, diplomacy does not work. February 2014 of the Year in Ukraine gave a prime example. They first act, then, “bumping into” Russia, they begin ... no, not to negotiate. Set ultimatums. In general - everyone who is interested in politics, had the good fortune to watch the “super show” around Ukraine in the last two years. Change the name of Putin to any other, and in fact, what does it change? What other options for action open up? In the 99 year, at the time of the bombing of Belgrade, we had a Western-liberal government in Moscow, what did it give? Continuing analogies - those who demolished the “red Milosevic” inside Yugoslavia, resisted that he was not able to agree with the West, but they could. After they came to power, Kosovo was taken from Serbia. Excuse me, what's the difference? In general, the conflict between patriots and liberals in modern Russia is quite funny: the West absolutely does not care about the views of the person who rules Russia. He is interested in the complete (phased) surrender of sovereignty by Russia. After that, any views of Russian politicians will lose any meaning. As, for example, it happened in Ukraine. That's exactly what they want: the Ukrainian version.

For some reason, our liberals do not want to understand this - there is no "pro-Western" option for Russia - this is a myth. By the way, for some reason Lukashenka does not understand this either: for him as a politician, there are no prospects in the West. He bothers them too. It will certainly be demolished as Gaddafi, Milosevic and Ceausescu were demolished. By the way, Yanukovych was a completely pro-Western politician: practically nothing connected him with Putin and they didn’t understand each other. He became “pro-Russian” immediately after the coup and the flight. As long as something depended on him - no one in the West called him that way. The West is only satisfied with puppet politicians like Yatsenyuk. No other politicians can arrange it. The problem with Lukashenka is that he is in big politics an absolute amateur. All actions of the West are aimed at its "demolition." But he does not understand this, and does not want to understand. A vivid example of this kind is a man-made crisis in socialist Poland: first they were given loans for the purchase of their equipment (a la South Korea!), And then they refused to buy products released on this equipment. And they raised interest rates on loans. And there was a terrible crisis in 80. The reason is not socialism, but the excessive ambition of Polish leaders. Something similar was happening in socialist Romania. Credit - Western equipment - closing the market - debt. "The crisis of the socialist system."

You see, the problem is that there are no positive examples as such. Casting bait, then a worm drive in front of the naive face of the future prey, she licks, swallows the bait, hooking! All now living observed all this on the example of Ukraine. Full cycle. It's not about the obstinacy of the current inhabitants of the Kremlin, the fact is that the Europeans do not offer us anything interesting. So, in 99, the Russian “Westerners” could not do anything to prevent NATO strikes against Belgrade. As a result of the defeat of Serbia, the whole policy of Russia has seriously changed. I would say more, if there had been no NATO attack on Yugoslavia, most likely Putin would not have come to power in Moscow. Yes exactly. This foreign policy moment is a turning point for Russian domestic politics, it suddenly turned out that the “Westerners” are not pulling. Their trump card was the statement that being in power, they guarantee friendship with the West. 99-th year convincingly refuted this bold statement, just like 98-oh put a fat point on the "economic wonders" of the liberal bloc. Putin came to power in 2000 for this reason. In order to remain in power, the Russian “Westerners” had to carry out a program of at least two parts: to attract the very Western investments that everyone was talking about for so long, and to stop the attack on Serbia by diplomatic means.

As we know, neither of these things happened. It did not work, it did not work out. And “liberal politics”, like liberal politicians, came out in circulation, which they still terribly regret. In fact, the difference between them and Putin is not in political orientation. The difference is in what role they are ready to accept in the future hypothetical union of Russia and Europe. For Putin, this is a principled account of Russian national interests, for them, the role of Romania in dancers (by the way, Romanians also have oil). Thus, the conflict is obviously served in the wrong way: Putin really wanted to be friends with the West, but not in the style of Gorbachev-Yeltsin, but they just very much hoped for such a glorious trinity (Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin), which will multiply Russia to zero. That's where the main fork. Attracting our liberals in 90 at least several tens of billions of dollars into the real sector and repelling even western north of Kosovo from the Western diplomats (everything that was inhabited by Serbs) could have been different. But they turned out to be completely impotent, they could not do anything at all. The West did not want to meet their friends from Russia. And when they shout about oil prices as the reason for their failures, they need to ask these two simple questions: about foreign investment and about Serbia. The problem is that the West is not ready to take into account Russia's opinion even in problems that are not fundamental to it. In this case, the name of the national leader is not absolutely important.
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  1. +40
    25 February 2016 14: 50
    Well, sometimes circumstances turn out to be stronger than a person, but in general, analyzing the career of Vladimir Putin and his foreign policy, one can come across a funny paradox: he began as a pronounced “Westerner”.

    Putin is a sane politician. If he began to immediately conflict with the West, he would have been crushed like a bug. I hope everyone knows the deplorable state of the country.
    Stalin, too, at one time delayed the war as far as possible in order to have time to prepare the country both economically and psychologically.
    1. +39
      25 February 2016 14: 57
      Quote: chikenous59
      Putin is a sane politician. If he began to immediately conflict with the West, he would have been crushed like a bug.

      Greetings A hi
      For some reason, many in our country have not recently recalled this fact ...
      Everybody needs - Put it down! Here and now!
      But how hard this is achieved when you have not only friends, even reliable allies, few people think ... sad
      1. +8
        25 February 2016 15: 03
        Moreover, global affairs are not done! We must weigh everything a hundred times! And Putin is weighed (scales by horoscope) and judicious.
        PS:
        Quote: author
        Do you imagine Navalny in the Bundestag (even as a garbage collector)?
        Meanwhile, TODAY:
        Lifenews.ru12: 42-Unknown with cakes attacked on Navalny ... became the new victim of the "torting" ... at the entrance to the office of the Anti-Corruption Fund. It is still unknown who exactly became the organizer of the action. The attackers fled the scene. Recall that earlier a similar attack was carried out by politician Mikhail Kasyanov.
        Эхо Москвы12: 32-Done in Moscow assault on politics Alexey Navalny. Navalny himself posted a photo on social networks.
        TVNZ, 12: 47- “They put a cake on me!”: Navalny said that they “attacked” him
        BBC12: 46-Unknown threw two cakes in Navalny
        WORLD 24, 12: 40- "Clowns" threw at Navalny two cakes at his office
        Moscow's comsomolets12:31 - Hooligans with cakes attacked on Alexey Navalny
        Chechens again attacked, as on Kasyanov! Well done boys!!! I wish injuries would have been nice at all! Two cakes, two dumbbells (inside!) (Hint for the next promotion!
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        2. +7
          25 February 2016 15: 55
          Quote: Pravdarm
          Meanwhile, TODAY:
          Lifenews.ru, 12: 42-Unknowns with cakes attacked Navalny ... became the new victim of the "torting" ... at the entrance to the office of the Anti-Corruption Fund. It is still unknown who exactly became the organizer of the action. The attackers fled the scene. Recall that earlier a similar attack was carried out by politician Mikhail Kasyanov.
          Echo of Moscow, 12: 32-In Moscow, an attack on the politics of Alexei Navalny. Navalny himself posted a photo on social networks.
          Komsomolskaya Pravda, 12: 47- “They put a cake on me!”: Navalny said that they “attacked” him
          Newspaper.Ru, 12: 46-Unknown threw two cakes in Navalny
          WORLD 24, 12: 40- “Clowns” threw two cakes in Navalny at his office
          Moskovsky Komsomolets, 12:31 - Hooligans with cakes attacked Alexei Navalny
          Again the Chechens attacked, as did Kasyanov! Well done boys!!! I wish injuries would have been nice at all! Two cakes, two dumbbells (inside!) (Hint for the next promotion!

          it’s better to eat the cake ourselves, but you need to throw it fellow
        3. +3
          25 February 2016 16: 00
          Quote: Pravdarm
          Two cakes, two dumbbells (inside!) (Hint for the next promotion!

          Torting is a pure public relations campaign.
        4. 0
          25 February 2016 16: 50
          Not really yours, ask any astrologer, Libra is a very unbalanced sign ... they tend to balance, therefore the scales ..
        5. +2
          25 February 2016 18: 30
          Pravdarm
          Here is what our HERA wrote about this
          "Yes, yes, this government has such high ratings and such powerful support that the only objection to the opposition's claims, Putin and Medvedev see only throwing cakes. Why did you steal a billion? Here's a cake in your face, hahaha, look, he's all cake, hahaha. Just at the entrance to our office center some clowns put two cakes at me and ran into the loose room. You should have seen how I walked to the office and went up in the elevator and what were the faces of those who met me. everyone in FBK wants to take selfies with me now "
          And again, Putin and Medvedev personally hired torpedo throwers to annoy Navalny))))
        6. +2
          25 February 2016 19: 56
          Quote: Pravdarm
          Again the Chechens attacked, as did Kasyanov! Well done boys!!! I wish injuries would have been nice at all! Two cakes, two dumbbells (inside!) (Hint for the next promotion!

          No. two cakes - two F-1, that’s what I understand torting, but in general it’s time for the NKVD to revive already angry and send west tries with their crap
      2. +8
        25 February 2016 15: 03
        The problem is that the West is not ready to take into account the opinion of Russia, even in matters unprincipled for it. At the same time, the name of the national leader is absolutely not important.

        But our liberals have a completely different opinion! Putin is to blame for everything. In their opinion, if another leader stands at the helm, then everything will be different and we will live comfortably and happily. And surprisingly, this point of view is also supported by many on the VO website. Even sometimes I do not want to comment on an article on this topic. Dirt flows like a river. And now the cons will go.
        1. +19
          25 February 2016 15: 46
          But our liberals have a completely different opinion! Putin is to blame for everything. In their opinion, if another leader stands at the helm, everything will be different and we will live comfortably and happily.
          Do you really think that the authorities, now, are not liberals? The same liberals, because if people who really support Russia come to power, then most of our oligarchs will sit down - the question of the results of privatization will immediately be raised.
          And in the confrontation with America and the West, everything was simple - they weren’t accepted there. And now they don’t have much to do, because they can lose everything, but I don’t feel like it. Yes, and our liberals understood that with the weak, the conversation is short, they will sweep ....
          1. Boos
            +11
            25 February 2016 15: 52
            This "confrontation" often sounds like a scenario staged by the world behind the scenes. And Putin plays his part. This is my opinion, because in Russia itself, the vertical of power built by Putin is still ruining the country.
            1. +13
              25 February 2016 17: 18
              Boos (2) US Today
              in Russia itself, the vertical of power built by Putin is still ruining the country.


              I would say tougher. Enemies rooted in the Russian government. Only today there was a serious discussion about the personality of Dvorkovich. Let me describe this person in more detail, but at the beginning a little biography:

              The right hand of Prime Minister Dmitry A. Medvedev, A. Dvorkovich, a young and successful official, graduate of Moscow State University and Duke University, USA, adviser to the Minister of Economic Development G. Gref since 2000, as well as many commercial structures. Through his spouse, he enters the management of the Magnitogorsk Iron and Steel Works, Polyus Gold, Sheremetyevo Airport, the Russian Development Bank, Rosgosstrakh, ALROS, Rosagroleasing, Nafta-Moscow, Polymetal and several others. Like any official of this rank, A. Dvorkovich is not a poor person, especially considering his long-standing friendship with S. Magomedov - the Summa group, which owns many sectors of the Russian business, including sea ports, cellular communications in the center of St. Petersburg, air ports and oil and gas enterprises. All this became possible with the presidency of Dmitry A. Medvedev and continues with his premiership.

              Well, now about his merits to the Fatherland:

              Dvorkovich in Russia represents forces expressing British influence. In fact, he is an agent of the well-known Inter-Alpha group, a stranglehold on Russia.

              After the departure of M. Gorbachev, who in turn gave birth to the monster B. Yeltsin, the “Andropov fives” continue to exist until now, bringing untold harm to our country, our people. The "young reformers" represented by Chubais, Gaidar, Kudrin, Gref and others became part of the "Byzantine" plan of Great Britain to transfer all power in Russia to agents of foreign influence, and the current Prime Minister, who openly calls for the sale of all remaining state property to foreign companies, has not escaped this fate. or otherwise affiliated with Anglo-Saxon financial institutions.

              And the daunting task of privatizing the public domain of Russia lies with Duke University graduate A. Dvorkovich, who is trying to transfer public property into the hands of foreign businessmen. The seaports of the Black Sea and the Far East are already in the sphere of interests of the British special services and financial consortiums, airports, communications and the banking sector, which are already British property, are next in turn. The creation of the Moscow air hub, which includes Sheremetyevo, Vnukovo and Domodedovo, which A. Dvorkovich so tirelessly cares for, does not mean a simple redistribution of property, not raider seizures, which A. Dvorkovich's group succeeded so much in, but complete control of the Russian sky from the British and American intelligence agencies. After a successful second privatization, thanks to Medvedev - Dvorkovich, not a single kilogram of cargo, not a single passenger will be able to freely leave the territory of Russia without the permission of the services of England - the USA. That’s it, the colony’s doors will shut completely!

              Isn't that what the fugitive oligarch B. Berezovsky wanted to tell about before being strangled in his own house, having previously broken a rib under torture? The Cyprus offshore and the interrogations of R. Abramovich in the United States show only one thing: Great Britain put the Iron Curtain on Russia from the outside of our border, finally locking up our economy within the colonial existence of the Russian Power.

              All these people are still working in Putin's government, their proposals are used to build a policy for overcoming the crisis, and it is they who are now selling off the "Far East" and destroying the institutions of medicine and education.
              1. 0
                25 February 2016 18: 24
                Is Putin “for” or “against”? Judging by the situation, I’m not against it. Although, if the leader is preparing a surprise for them, to cover everyone in an ugly manner for an open proser and even put him in prison, then I am ready to suffer a little of these abuse of the Motherland.
                1. +3
                  25 February 2016 18: 39
                  Quote: Volzhanin
                  Is Putin “for” or “against”? Judging by the situation, I’m not against it. Although, if the leader is preparing a surprise for them, to cover everyone in an ugly manner for an open proser and even put him in prison, then I am ready to suffer a little of these abuse of the Motherland.

                  ... there above one "smart" posted about Dvorkovich ... but forgot to continue the quotes from the source ... specially with a screen and an indication of where you can read it in full ... so that some would not throw out words from the song, so to speak, it appeals smile no more ... hi
                2. +3
                  25 February 2016 19: 26
                  Quote: Volzhanin
                  Is Putin “for” or “against”? Judging by the situation, I’m not against it. Although, if the leader is preparing a surprise for them, to cover everyone in an ugly manner for an open proser and even put him in prison, then I am ready to suffer a little of these abuse of the Motherland.

                  And Putin approves of the government ....
                  Tolerate, sir, endure ...
          2. 0
            25 February 2016 15: 54
            In their opinion, if another leader stands at the helm, then everything will be different and we will live comfortably and happily.

            You are in vain.
            These liberals have never said that with them we "will live comfortably and happily."
            Many of our fellow citizens themselves prescribe a pill of joy.
            ALL revolutions led to poverty and misery.
            As a result of the revolutionary shift, only those who, as a result, get to power win.

            Putin is not a revolutionary. Hooray to him for that.
            Putin is consistently rebuilding the country.
            1. +3
              25 February 2016 16: 22
              Quote: Temples
              Many of our fellow citizens themselves prescribe a pill of joy.
              ALL revolutions led to poverty and misery.

              ... the most important thing is to have our own historical experience in this regard in 1917 and 1991 ... hi
            2. owl
              +1
              25 February 2016 17: 12
              Quote: Temples
              Putin is not a revolutionary. Hooray to him for that.

              I will try to logically (if you know what it is) to refute your "NOT".
              We read Vladimir Ilyich what a revolutionary situation is! And from which it is clearly seen that the main popes of the Carls (acting or inactive) are the powers that be (I hope there are no fools who believe that the revolution is arranged by German agents, or even better people ??) In this vein, the main revolutionaries of 1905 and two 1917 are others like Nikolashka and his riffraff, the rest only took advantage of the situation!
              So from the above laughing and what we see today in the "Danish kingdom", one thing is obvious, more than "Collective Putin" for the emergence of a revolutionary situation, no one does (as they say, Obama is resting)! And how can I say after that that Putin is not a revolutionary ?? request
              Quote: Temples
              Putin consistently restores the country

              And this nonsense and no desire to comment!
              1. +2
                25 February 2016 17: 22
                Quote: gufo
                I will try to logically (if you know what it is) to refute your "NOT"
                1) We read Vladimir Ilyich what a revolutionary situation is!

                ... go and learn the definition, to begin with ... there is no "revolutionary situation" there is a definition "revolutionary situation"given by V. I. Lenin in his work" May Day of the Revolutionary Proletariat "(1913) ... that's really nothing to comment on ... in a few words the" logician "got confused, like getting lost in two birches in a field ... shame. .. laughing laughing laughing
                1. owl
                  +2
                  25 February 2016 17: 37
                  Quote: Inok10
                  there is a definition of "revolutionary situation" given by V.I.

                  My impression is that you are inadequate! smile , there is such a big difference in the Russian language between "situation" and "situation" that you decided to "prudently" bypass everything else written in the text, am I right?
                  1. +2
                    25 February 2016 18: 35
                    Quote: gufo
                    My impression is that you are inadequate!

                    ... laughing ...
                    - situation - furniture, sanitary-epidemiological, radiation, psychological, theatrical, family, fake ... figurative, figurative concept
                    - situation - slang French. surveying: terrain, location, location; situational survey, not only measurement and sketch of lands, but the indication on the drawing, with conventional signs, mountains, valleys, ravines, swamps, arable lands, forests, by their nature, etc. V. Dahl's Explanatory Dictionary of the Living Great Russian Language - "SITUATION" - that is, the exact definition ... hi
                    1. owl
                      +1
                      25 February 2016 18: 52
                      Quote: Inok10
                      furnishings - furniture, sanitary

                      Quote: Inok10
                      - situation - slang franc.

                      And save the "dictionary" you never know in the country there will still be a shortage of toilet paper laughing
                      Or maybe it’s not the dictionary at all .., the devil knows what apparently the first impression is not deceptive laughing
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          4. +2
            25 February 2016 16: 55
            I support Putin as a liberal, only you have to choose either full vassal dependence or the tsar))) I’ve read that no matter who is at the head of the Russian state, no matter what he is, he will sooner or later become a Russian patriot, take that same Catherine 2, a German .... And Stalin ??
      3. +7
        25 February 2016 15: 18
        Quote: Now we are free
        even reliable allies, few people think ...


        Yes, we do not have any coconuts of friends-allies, it is good to steam on this topic. A hammer in hand - and the "allies" will immediately appear. There will be no end to the bros. The line from Gibraltar will line up. You just don't have to be too kind, they take it for weakness.
      4. cap
        +1
        25 February 2016 15: 39
        Quote: Now we are free
        For some reason, many in our country have not recently recalled this fact ...
        Everyone needs - Put it down! Here and now!
        But how hard it is achieved when you have not only friends, even reliable allies, few people think ... sad


        They think, but probably not all.
        Article on solid +.
        1. +1
          25 February 2016 16: 22
          Very adequate analytics.
          +
          1. -2
            25 February 2016 17: 10
            But in my opinion, the article is disgusting, frivolous and about nothing. The author, as they said even before the war, “an engineer of human souls?” Article minus.
      5. +1
        25 February 2016 21: 12
        Take it out and put it down! Of course it won't work .. But! 15 years of talking about modernization, getting off that same needle ... and nothing. All the hated Poles for the same time (even with the help of Zashtatnikov's money) built quite an adequate economy. And he surrounded himself with such "friends". Well, it doesn't work with this "team", declare about emergency measures in the economy up to nationalization.
        Quote: Now we are free
        Quote: chikenous59
        Putin is a sane politician. If he began to immediately conflict with the West, he would have been crushed like a bug.

        Greetings A hi
        For some reason, many in our country have not recently recalled this fact ...
        Everybody needs - Put it down! Here and now!
        But how hard this is achieved when you have not only friends, even reliable allies, few people think ... sad
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    3. +5
      25 February 2016 15: 04
      A somewhat simplified scheme is spelled out in the article, but generally true.
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    5. -2
      25 February 2016 15: 28
      Quote: chikenous59
      Putin is a sane politician.


      + 100 %

      More questions to his "Medvedev team" ... they will not take off their rose-colored glasses.

      But I like the offset German caricature from http://www.zerohedge.com
      1. -2
        25 February 2016 16: 05
        Quote: Cherdak
        But I like the offset German caricature from http://www.zerohedge.com


        A caricature is not inevitable. Sucks, to be honest. I don’t understand, the whole world is waiting for Putin to crap one’s pants. And? Then what? Merkel-Obama champion? Yes, ALWAYS the world will be in balance. Somehow sadly, the goat understands that the issue will be resolved, for Europe-America it’s just sad. Something near they are. Lose, and whom shall we kick then? On Pluto, or something, or in the Kuiper belt to look for enemies?
        1. 0
          25 February 2016 17: 22
          Quote: iliitch
          I don’t understand, the whole world is waiting for Putin to crap one’s pants.

          Strange, but the author of the cartoon had in mind a completely different ... wink
          1. 0
            25 February 2016 17: 55
            Quote: Cherdak
            Strange, but the author of the cartoon had in mind a completely different ...


            Well, explain the German humor to me, well, I don’t understand. A man is sitting on the pot, remotely resembling Putin, holding pieces of paper in his hands, preparing to use it for its intended purpose. What is German humor? Yes, he has such pieces of paper a cabinet, probably with portraits. What's so funny?
            1. 0
              25 February 2016 18: 24
              Quote: iliitch
              What's so funny?


              laughing SW Valery, are you curious? The author very frankly showed the ratio of GDP to the US and EU sanctions.

              Do you comprehend every joke or demand a materialistic approach? Here are some examples:

              Who will stop Putin? After all, this is rabid racism - how much can you mock a black man?

              Belgium imposes sanctions and deploys the Manneken Pis fountain towards Russia.

              The United States is introducing new sanctions against Russia ... Obama is constantly calling Putin at night - so that he doesn’t get enough sleep!
              1. 0
                25 February 2016 21: 30
                Well, if you have a good laugh - since the time of Comrade Ivan the Fourth, the rulers have not slept at night ... In order not to accidentally kill, or even some dirty tricks, they have not been able to make any dreams. No one canceled the snuff-boxes for the stubborn.
      2. +3
        25 February 2016 18: 23
        Quote: Cherdak
        More questions to his "Medvedev team" ... they will not take off their rose-colored glasses.

        Rose-colored glasses are exactly for those who separate Putin and the "Medvedev team."
        Somehow everyone unanimously forgets that during the time of Medvedev's presidency Putin drove the same team (I must say, with the same success, by and large).
        This whole flock of one Sobchak nest, if Che.
        It is also forgotten (or ignored) that a certain Chubais brought him to Moscow under the wing of EBN "the great and terrible", giving him the most excellent recommendations along the way ...
        1. -2
          25 February 2016 18: 32
          Quote: Wheel
          during the presidency of Medvedev Putin steered the same team

          Naivety can be contagious. And Stalin and Trotsky from "Lenin's nest" laughing
          “The vassal of my vassal is not my vassal”
          1. +2
            25 February 2016 19: 41
            Quote: Cherdak
            And Stalin and Trotsky from "Lenin's nest"

            I would not be so categorical ...
            Until the age of 17 Leiba adhered to the policy "both yours and ours", at 17 the chuyka worked, that you can warm your hands not badly ...
            And how many around the world he shook ..., often together with Ilyich.

            With Stalin, everything is much worse.
            This one is more "for the idea".
            He was not in exile.
            I did not have close contacts with Lenin until 17.
            1. +1
              26 February 2016 08: 13
              Comrade Stalin defeated Hitler, at a terrible cost, and no one will steal it from him. In 300 years, descendants will appreciate it ... And when comrade Stalin is called by some, um, "comrades", the devil, they personally get a kick from me, and no one will convince me that I am wrong.
    6. Boos
      +4
      25 February 2016 15: 38
      And how can you tell me, can you crush a nuclear Power "like a bug"? Eggs interfere with a bad dancer ... Do not compare Stalin with Putin.
    7. +10
      25 February 2016 15: 41
      I don’t know how it is in foreign policy, since we don’t know all the "undercurrents". And the fact that we have in the inner well ..... AND THIS EVEN KNOWS A CHILD 10 years old (exaggerating), and that there is an example of Rottenberg's sidekick >>>>> http://ria.ru/economy/20160225/1380272493.html

      We draw conclusions ...... and do not kiss right away .....

      My opinion is pure: People if you think that he has already done a lot of things and this is a feat (Bullshit) ..... Yes, THIS IS HIS WORK WHICH HE SHOULD DO AND MORE SHOULD BE .... And do not constantly look back: it used to be, and what will happen then do you think ???!
      1. +5
        25 February 2016 17: 20
        70 BSN

        I agree. Yeah, "Medvedev's team" .... yes, it's already full of blame for this gopher, "which is ...." and his, however, no, so, plywood decoration for amateur shooters. ... dragged in an artificial bunny. .. oh, yes, everyone is a lot. .. firing, firing. ..and feel like real hunters. . and the question is very simple: who holds him in power? Does he pull the string? Are the walkers happy? Rotenbergs? Vekselbergs? Or who ischo? 15 years to build a vertical of power. ..and not be able to do anything. .. this, my friend, is called the familiar word "impotence" .. or maybe, besides "hanging", there is no desire? ... AND? So think out on your own. ..I'm not a liberal and not a Jew-mason. .. I'm just like you. ..
    8. +1
      25 February 2016 22: 16
      I disagree. In my opinion, Putin tried to carry on with the West "on equal terms" as partners, but realized that there are no partners for the West, but only donors. And here I did not bend.
  2. +5
    25 February 2016 14: 51
    The same can be said about domestic politics .... a sledgehammer on the head does not work out to gasp ...
    1. 0
      25 February 2016 16: 15
      Let's stop, finally, and "lustfully wag their tails" in front of the GDP and "water" it from all sides!
      We are now only seeing "the middle of the play", so please be patient, gentlemen ... It's not evening yet!
      I am sure that there is still a lot of interesting things ahead of us ...
      Time is the best judge! It will judge everyone and everything ...
      1. 0
        25 February 2016 17: 21
        , and "lustfully wag their tails" in front of the GDP and "water" it from all sides!


        If you are too lazy to read everything, then the last phrase: "while the name of the national leader is absolutely not important."

        Something like this.
      2. -1
        26 February 2016 00: 36
        kepmor

        But doesn’t it seem, dear, the middlegame has been somewhat delayed, predictable and tedious?
  3. +3
    25 February 2016 14: 52
    I will say more, by nature and views and life experience, Putin is a man of European orientation


    And the geyrropa has changed its orientation, so ...
    1. +11
      25 February 2016 15: 21
      Quote: sir_obs
      I will say more, by nature and views and life experience, Putin is a man of European orientation


      And the geyrropa has changed its orientation, so ...

      Yes, at least 150 times will change the orientation of the geyropa, there won’t be any sense, politicians like Kohl, Mitterrand left, and who came to their place? Those who hold Faberge tightly or by the chest from across the ocean and it is correctly said in the article who wouldn’t was our president, still the west is not our comrade, the west of us needs only our resources and: what you please, master. In Syria now the same thing is happening, the West is saying the same thing, and doing the exact opposite, there is no truce yet, and they are already yelling at all corners that Russia already and Assad violate it, lying jackals, scoundrels.
      1. +2
        25 February 2016 16: 28
        Actually, the meaning of the phrase about the change of orientation in Europe was this. Especially considering the countries of the former socialist camp.
  4. +10
    25 February 2016 14: 53
    As a liberal, he remained, and he himself does not seem to be hiding this. Just the 5th column is always liberals, but liberals are not always the 5th column.
  5. -9
    25 February 2016 14: 59
    Volodya is well done, he is doing everything right, everything in his power, and whoever does not see and does not understand this, he does not understand anything
    1. +3
      25 February 2016 15: 10
      Quote: GoHardLikePutin
      Volodya is well done, he is doing everything right, everything in his power, and whoever does not see and does not understand this, he does not understand anything

      After the partition of Yugoslavia, the West continued to draw a map of the world with impunity, probably it will have to be weaned.
    2. Boos
      +9
      25 February 2016 16: 01
      I'm not sure about his "deeds", it's too early to draw conclusions. And about his promises, then yes, he knows how to promise, only he does not answer for his promises. But I will assume that after leaving, so much will surface on him that "hand-face" will do.
    3. -2
      26 February 2016 00: 41
      GoHardLikePutin

      Well, if he is for you just like that, Vova, then at least half of the faces are on VO. .. well, very soft. .. people are narrow-minded and do not understand anything. .. and what are you here for? With a personal friend "Volodya"? .. :-)
  6. PKK
    -8
    25 February 2016 15: 01
    Putin is good! I would like to hear a comparison of Putin and Stalin, from the standpoint of Shamanism, Buddhism. So far, not a single person has reached the level of Stalin. But Putin may well exceed the shamanism of the Leader of the Peoples! We have someone to strive for, unlike liberals and their henchmen. And it pleases.
    1. +7
      25 February 2016 15: 33
      Quote: PKK
      I would like to hear a comparison of Putin and Stalin, from the standpoint of Shamanism, Buddhism.

      Are you joking?
      You can admire the extraordinary state of Putin for an arbitrarily long time, but how it may come to your mind to compare the Bolshevik Stalin and liberal Putin is impossible to understand. request
      1. Boos
        +8
        25 February 2016 16: 13
        Ignorance is demonic power! Compare Great Stalin with Putin, the screen of the Kremlin Kagal (since the time of Yeltsin in the arena, all the same). Kvachkov is sitting and Chubais is living in a miraculous boasting!
      2. PKK
        -5
        25 February 2016 17: 45
        Look at yesterday's husk, how fiercely. The 5th column stood on its hind legs. Correctly Menyailov said that the "prisoners" are such individuals as the scum of our society, they are among us and are just waiting for someone to surrender as prisoner. Minus officers here are "prisoners" this is their profession, always surrender. Here are the minus players and burned. You are friends of Obama. To whom you sleep and see how to surrender as quickly as possible. It does not matter who you surrender to either the chocolate eye or Clintonsha's dumplings.
        1. Boos
          +1
          25 February 2016 17: 59
          The fifth column will always come to an agreement with Putin, but with Stalin it "does not shine" ... And stop labeling, what does the African American Barak and his admirers have to do with it?
        2. +3
          25 February 2016 18: 36
          Quote: PKK
          Look at yesterday's husk, how fiercely. The 5th column stood on its hind legs. Correctly Menyailov said that the "prisoners" are such individuals as the scum of our society, they are among us and are just waiting for someone to surrender as prisoner. Minus officers here are "prisoners" this is their profession, always surrender. Here are the minus players and burned. You are friends of Obama. To whom you sleep and see how to surrender as quickly as possible. It does not matter who you surrender to either the chocolate eye or Clintonsha's dumplings.

          Hmm, cheers-patriotism - a great power!
          Turns off the head completely ... laughing
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    2. +3
      25 February 2016 18: 34
      Quote: PKK
      Putin is good! I would like to hear a comparison of Putin and Stalin, from the standpoint of Shamanism, Buddhism. So far, not a single person has reached the level of Stalin. But Putin may well exceed the shamanism of the Leader of the Peoples !.

      Never do a lapdog become a shepherd dog, at least be tempered, at least slow down.
  7. +4
    25 February 2016 15: 01
    Wonderful article. I read it with interest.
  8. +6
    25 February 2016 15: 02
    Putin’s policy is the policy of boltology, the essence of which is to take one step forward and two backward. The Russian industry is living out its last years. Pensioners who receive a poor salary + pension work in factories. Even a little and they will leave, for natural reasons (disability, or death, due to age). After that, it will be possible to put a fat cross on Russian industry. Instead of taking and firing the stealing officials and frankly ineffective managers, the government is going to deprive part of the pensions of working pensioners. How will this help the industry ?! No way ... Young people don’t and will not go to the beggarly salary paid at factories, it’s not even possible to live on it. The yachts of Abramovich and other hucksters have long surpassed the size and quantity of the Russian Navy. What is Putin going to protect the interests of Russia on Abramovich’s yachts ?!
    1. -1
      25 February 2016 15: 08
      The army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and other security forces raised their salaries, so they will defend.
      1. +4
        25 February 2016 15: 19
        Yes, they will not protect anything and can not, even those who want to do it. 1) The lion's share of all these generals and colonels is shaking for their own skin and pensions, and then they don’t want to die and they won’t go to war, they are shaking for their own skin. 2) The Russian army has a ridiculously small amount of modern weapons and there is simply nothing to fight. One American nuclear submarine, converted into the carrier of Tomahawk cruise missiles, carries 154 missiles, more than all these large missile boats that shot Caliber at terrorists in Syria combined.
        1. 0
          25 February 2016 15: 41
          Quote: Corvetkapitan
          and then they don’t want to die and do not go to war, they are shaking their skin

          That’s one thing minus you all ****. Now who is fighting in Syria, who fought in the Donbas. You certainly aren’t.
          Quote: Corvetkapitan
          2) The Russian army has a ridiculously small amount of modern weapons and there is simply nothing to fight.

          Have you already prepared a white flag?
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            1. +4
              25 February 2016 16: 35
              For several months, workers at the Rudgormash plant in Voronezh have not been paid wages, workers have sued and half of those who sued have already been fired. At the VASO plant in Voronezh, the salary of a fitter-toolmaker of 5 categories (maximum 6) is 13000 rubles per month. Who ordered it? Obama or something ?! You fasten heroin to use, a sick ur-patriot ...
              1. +3
                25 February 2016 18: 38
                Nevertheless, the rampant negativity of the West is obvious! And this means that we are going right. And no matter how demon Putin is, one must support him to convulsions! Because there are no other reasonable options.
            2. -5
              25 February 2016 17: 26
              Hey, are you already working out? That you agitate roughly. I'm afraid that with such "assistants" Putin will only get worse :-) :-)
            3. +6
              25 February 2016 19: 06
              Problems in the country need to be solved, but people like you and your Putin prefer not to notice them, purely out of selfish interests. Suffice it to recall the recent scandal with the non-payment of salaries to the builders of the Vostochny cosmodrome, and I very much doubt that all these people fully received their due money. A person who calls Chubais honest himself cannot be honest by definition. All this will end up with problems in the country that you do not want to notice appear in your bathroom and grab your ass, and then it will be too late to throw up his hands. what is it worth when he is trusted. And I have no faith in you or Putin. Ask why ?! I have already written some of the answers to this question for you, and if it is not enough for you, here's a song with meaning.
            4. -3
              26 February 2016 00: 45
              We will be vigilant, comrades!
          2. +1
            25 February 2016 16: 15
            You can tell how many of these colonels refused to go to fight in the Caucasus and wrote a letter of dismissal, but a smart guy ?! In Syria ?! And what about Syria ?! They ruined the crew and the plane in Syria, because they sent them without fighter cover and no one was punished for this. They began to press the bandits in Syria and immediately a rotten ceasefire, like in Chechnya, when the militants were surrounded and they only had to finish off ... , demagogues ... And what to fight for, if you think about it ?! For the thieves Gref, Chubais and their back-breaking work property stolen ?! For officials who constantly betray and rob their own country and army ?! Tell you how the army is robbed without paying it the required `` combat '', but a smart guy ?! Can you tell me how in the military registration and enlistment offices, the enraged military commissars say to the crippled soldiers - “I didn't send you there”? Who sent them there ?! Let's go, at home it got bored and tired of walking on two legs ?! Ugh...
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          3. PKK
            -2
            25 February 2016 17: 51
            Quote: Alexander Romanov

            Have you already prepared a white flag?

            Exactly, they wear white shorts, so that you could give up anywhere, waving white shorts!
        2. 0
          25 February 2016 15: 42
          Yeah, Chef, it's all gone! laughing
        3. 0
          25 February 2016 18: 42
          Quote: Corvetkapitan
          they are shaking for their own skin.


          Old fascist propaganda, calling on the Red Army to surrender.
          70 years seems to have passed, but again she vaguely reminds me of something soldier
          1. 0
            25 February 2016 22: 51
            Are you a great patriot of Russia ?! Why is the Russian patriot writing from Finland ?! There are still many Islamic terrorists in Chechnya, enough for your life, take AK to the Russian army ... Otherwise, all are patriots, but they live somewhere abroad ...
            1. -3
              26 February 2016 23: 30
              Quote: Corvetkapitan
              .And then all patriots, but live somewhere abroad ...


              Service, sir! soldier
      2. +3
        25 February 2016 15: 44
        Whom they will protect: Abromovich, Potanin, Deripaska, etc. that you fell from the oak.
      3. -1
        25 February 2016 17: 18
        And where will you take the money in the nightstand? :-)
    2. +4
      25 February 2016 15: 13
      Yeah, and the politics of his opponents is simply manna from heaven for the people. Suddenly, the bulk, Kasyanovs and other liberal followers will win, and then they will immediately take away the yacht from Abramovich and return to the treasury the funds selected by the oligarchs. Yeah ... and the factories will start working unexpectedly and the specialists will start to hatch from nowhere. Well yes...
      if liberals come to power, there will be new nineties. Gaidar's fosterlings will come out, and those that are now at the helm will generally perpetrate complete lawlessness. You don’t have to go far for an example ...
      1. +8
        25 February 2016 15: 24
        Quote: sir_obs
        Yeah, and the politics of his opponents is simply manna from heaven for the people. Suddenly, the bulk, Kasyanovs and other liberal followers will win, and then they will immediately take away the yacht from Abramovich and return to the treasury the funds selected by the oligarchs. Yeah ...

        Pralno havarite, so let Abrasha continue sailing on his yacht, let Gref-nyashka continue to claim that Crimea is Ukraine, let Chubaisik continue to have "a lot of money" ... Yeah ...
        1. 0
          25 February 2016 15: 50
          Quote: Your friend
          Quote: sir_obs
          Yeah, and the politics of his opponents is simply manna from heaven for the people. Suddenly, the bulk, Kasyanovs and other liberal followers will win, and then they will immediately take away the yacht from Abramovich and return to the treasury the funds selected by the oligarchs. Yeah ...

          Pralno havarite, so let Abrasha continue sailing on his yacht, let Gref-nyashka continue to claim that Crimea is Ukraine, let Chubaisik continue to have "a lot of money" ... Yeah ...

          envy has a bad effect on health - this is about Abramovich, etc., Gref is a businessman, not i_di_ot (and proof please where he approves Crimea-Ukraine)
          1. -1
            25 February 2016 15: 58
            Quote: poquello
            envy has a bad effect on health - this is about Abramovich, etc., Gref is a businessman, not i_di_ot (and proof please where he approves Crimea-Ukraine)

            If your health is poor, do not envy, why do you write to me about this? What proof do you have? Are you having trouble using search engines? Oh yes, poor health ... heal.
            http://riafan.ru/360077-pochemu-gref-vernul-kryim-ukraine
            1. +2
              25 February 2016 16: 33
              Quote: Your friend
              http://riafan.ru/360077-pochemu-gref-vernul-kryim-ukraine

              Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, from the point of view of the international financial sector, and we adhere to this position

              There are banks that have already fallen under sanctions, there are banks that are subject to minimal sanctions - there is someone to work in Crimea. Pride and poverty is in North Korea, you first begin to howl from a deterioration in life, but you demand to freeze your ears on your grandmother.
              1. 0
                25 February 2016 16: 44
                Quote: poquello
                Quote: Your friend
                http://riafan.ru/360077-pochemu-gref-vernul-kryim-ukraine

                Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, from the point of view of the international financial sector, and we adhere to this position

                There are banks that have already fallen under sanctions, there are banks that are subject to minimal sanctions - there is someone to work in Crimea. Pride and poverty is in North Korea, you first begin to howl from a deterioration in life, but you demand to freeze your ears on your grandmother.

                Are you out of control? What does Korea have to do with life deterioration, grandmother? What kind of nonsense?
                I’ll chew you if you do not understand.
                Putin said and did - "Crimea is ours." The president of Sberbank, nominated for this position by the state, 51% of Sberbank belongs to the state. And this president says - "Crimea-Ukraine".
                At the same time, in Ukraine itself, Sberbank branches work (although they are routed periodically, but they continue to work)))), but in the Crimea, the Russian Federation does not.
                Has the idiocy of the situation reached you?
                1. +2
                  25 February 2016 17: 18
                  Quote: Your friend
                  Quote: poquello
                  Quote: Your friend
                  http://riafan.ru/360077-pochemu-gref-vernul-kryim-ukraine

                  Crimea is the territory of Ukraine, from the point of view of the international financial sector, and we adhere to this position

                  There are banks that have already fallen under sanctions, there are banks that are subject to minimal sanctions - there is someone to work in Crimea. Pride and poverty is in North Korea, you first begin to howl from a deterioration in life, but you demand to freeze your ears on your grandmother.

                  Are you out of control? What does Korea have to do with life deterioration, grandmother? What kind of nonsense?
                  ...

                  To your grandmother’s evil frostbite, this is exactly what you require - to substitute a large bank under sanctions, which in Russia plays a very small role. I begin to believe that a stupid patriot is worse than a pest.
                  1. -1
                    25 February 2016 17: 22
                    Quote: poquello
                    To your grandmother’s evil frostbite, this is exactly what you require - to substitute a large bank under sanctions, which in Russia plays a very small role.

                    What???? You are really delusional. The WHOLE country has been substituted under the sanctions. And you are talking nonsense about some state bank. In truth, "a dumb patriot is worse than a wrecker."
                    1. PKK
                      -2
                      25 February 2016 17: 56
                      You are not Your friend! You don’t take such friends to the museum, they are very rotten.
                      1. -1
                        25 February 2016 17: 58
                        Quote: PKK
                        You are not Your friend! You don’t take such friends to the museum, they are very rotten.

                        My not to understand yours.
        2. -3
          25 February 2016 15: 58
          Putin will be away, and the abrashka will have three more such calls, and the Grefka will receive a savings bank for the use of their offspring.
          1. -1
            25 February 2016 16: 30
            Quote: sir_obs
            Putin will be away, and the abrashka will have three more such calls, and the Grefka will receive a savings bank for the use of their offspring.

            Ahhhh ... understandably, i.e. you don’t want to change one thief to another, because the new thief is even more thieves. Approve.)
            1. +2
              25 February 2016 16: 51
              I do not want to be sold to the Anglo-Saxons
              1. -1
                25 February 2016 17: 34
                Quote: sir_obs
                I do not want to be sold to the Anglo-Saxons

                Do not want someone else's thief on your neck, you want your own, scanty? I also approve.)
          2. +2
            25 February 2016 16: 44
            Quote: sir_obs
            and Grefka will receive Sberbank pv.

            He already got it
      2. +2
        25 February 2016 15: 24
        I’m not a fan of Navalny and I understand how rotten he is, but Putin is not a patriot either.
        1. -2
          25 February 2016 16: 12
          And point your finger at the patriot? Where are these found here or over the hill and how exactly do they look?
          It’s not necessary to bring everything together.
          Obama is, for example, a patriot of his country? Probably because it defends the interests of its outskirts. But are these the interests of citizens or the same bunch of movers?
          Attacks on Putin are underway because by his actions in foreign policy he undermines the influence of the oligarchs inside. They do not like it, so they are looking for different ways of influence.
          Putin is not an angel, he is not without flaws and is not immune from mistakes. And most importantly, he is not omnipotent. And acting within the framework of the legal and political system that we have, it has a limited set of instruments of influence.
          Stalin once cleaned up all these conventions, so what? A tyrant, a killer of his own people and the like.
          No need to blame everything on Putin. Compared with him, all who led the country after Stalin are generally not comparable in their patriot nomination to their country.
          1. +2
            25 February 2016 21: 02
            I'll tell you honestly, I don't see a person now whom I would like to see the president of Russia, but I don't believe in Putin either. And I'm not the only one, that's why the people voted in the elections against all '' and immediately the rude thief hastened to remove This column from the electoral lists was too clear an example of the fact that the people do not trust the powers that be, who have long spit on the country and the people.
      3. +6
        25 February 2016 16: 43
        Quote: sir_obs
        Gaidar feeding males will come

        But did they hide somewhere? Wipe your eyes, all with power and money. In Putin’s government, including. Or will you say that the State Department appointed them?
        Quote: sir_obs
        it will be the new nineties.

        As if by the results of "getting up from his knees" the nineties did not seem fat years.
    3. 0
      25 February 2016 15: 20
      Quote: Corvetkapitan
      Instead of taking and sacking the stealing officials and frankly ineffective managers, the government is going to deprive part of the pensions of working pensioners.

      I am the pensioner who was deprived of part of the pension (or rather, its indexation). But still, I support Putin’s policies, no matter how strange it may seem. Well, Putin will remove all the stealing officials and ineffective managers. What will it change, who will replace them? Do you think they will be better? Hell no! These will grab even more and at a faster pace, while they have the opportunity to sit in a bread place. It’s hard to stay honest with outright corrupt people! And where are they honest? A lot of them around? First, learn to be demanding of yourself, and then ask honesty from others.
      1. +3
        25 February 2016 15: 25
        The fish rots from the head.
        1. +1
          25 February 2016 15: 59
          Quote: Corvetkapitan
          The fish rots from the head.

          In Khokhlyandiya, the "head" of Yanukovych was removed. New ones came - the level of corruption, banditry, and misconduct increased not several times, but several orders of magnitude. Well? And those who openly run for instructions at the US Embassy probably don't think about anything other than the good of Great Russia?
          1. +3
            25 February 2016 16: 22
            Excuse me, but you have to be blind so as not to see that Yanukovych was not a pro-Russian president of Ukraine. Yanukovych did nothing to ban Bandera parties in Ukraine. UNA-UNSO and others fought against Russia in Chechnya, on the side of Islamic terrorists Dudayev and Ukraine refused to extradite these bandits at the request of the Russian prosecutor’s office. So I don’t see much difference between Yanukovych and Poroshenko, they are all against Russia and they are all thieves. If you haven’t noticed, I don’t propose changing Putin to Navalny, or someone in this spirit, because the change of one thief to another Russia will not give anything
            1. Boos
              +4
              25 February 2016 17: 28
              Do Putin's Defenders Follow "Wouldn't It Be Worse"? If Putin goes away. Like that grandmother who, on remarks about the dishonesty of the Jews, said, "How can you say that, they are God's chosen people!" This is what ignorance means!
      2. +4
        25 February 2016 15: 26
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        I am the pensioner who was deprived of part of the pension (or rather, its indexation). But still, I support Putin’s policies, no matter how strange it may seem. Well, Putin will remove all the stealing officials and ineffective managers. What will it change, who will replace them? Do you think they will be better? Hell no! These will grab even more and at a faster pace, while they have the opportunity to sit in a bread place. It’s hard to stay honest with outright corrupt people! And where are they honest? A lot of them around? First, learn to be demanding of yourself, and then ask this from others.

        Ahahaha. The tsar is not to blame, the boyars are to blame ... Aren't you funny yourself?
        1. -4
          25 February 2016 15: 36
          Quote: Your friend
          Ahahaha. The tsar is not to blame, the boyars are to blame ... Aren't you funny yourself?

          It’s ridiculous for all of you who blaspheme your president! You can’t do anything except blasphemy against Putin and then only sitting at the computer. You are not even worthy of my minus!
          "Corvette captain", this applies to you too! Stamp your minuses further, and Putin is OUR PRESIDENT, period!
          Suppress all of you with your poison!
          1. +2
            25 February 2016 15: 40
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            It’s ridiculous for all of you who blaspheme your president! You can’t do anything except blasphemy against Putin and then only sitting at the computer. You are not even worthy of my minus!
            "Corvette captain", this applies to you too! Stamp your minuses further, and Putin is OUR PRESIDENT, period!
            Suppress all of you with your poison!

            Ahahaha, don’t you forget to apply to the icon with Putin on the dashboard every day?)
            1. -2
              25 February 2016 15: 45
              Quote: Your friend
              Ahahaha ...

              You have some kind of nervous laugh, show yourself to Kasyanov and Kasparov.
              1. +1
                25 February 2016 15: 54
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                You have some kind of nervous laugh, show yourself to Kasyanov and others like them.

                "Nervous laugh"? Did you determine this by the characters printed? Ahahaha.
          2. +2
            25 February 2016 15: 56
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Putin is our President and the point!
            Suppress all of you with your poison!

            Was life interesting before Putin in Russia? what
            And how will you live if suddenly he is not in power, he will say, for example, I'm tired of "gallery" and will retire belay
            1. +4
              25 February 2016 16: 01
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Putin is our President and the point!
              Suppress all of you with your poison!

              Was life interesting before Putin in Russia? what
              And how will you live if suddenly he is not in power, he will say, for example, I'm tired of "gallery" and will retire belay

              Do not bother the sect of Putin’s witnesses. They believe and this is the main thing.
            2. -4
              25 February 2016 16: 06
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              And how will you live if suddenly he is not in power, he will say, for example, I'm tired of "gallery" and will retire

              So I will - sit and listen to your moans: what a bad president we have.
              1. +4
                25 February 2016 16: 28
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                So I will: sit and listen to your moans - what a bad president we have.

                this groan is called a song laughing
                You apparently did not understand the question? Why moan by whom, actually?
                And by the way, I didn’t say a word whether he was good or bad.
                He just fulfills his mission within the framework of the state system at the source, which he stood with the dog and whose successor he was and is. This is objectivity.
                And miracles do not happen, dear, how would you not want this.
                1. -7
                  25 February 2016 16: 41
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  You apparently did not understand the question? Why moan by whom, actually?

                  You didn’t understand me. You will always moan, no matter who will be your president.
                  And whose successor Putin is, is clear to me: he was nominated by forces that were not indifferent to the fate of Russia. And something tells me (this is my subjective opinion) that it was not without the "former" KGB. Remember who our president was before.
                  1. +2
                    25 February 2016 16: 52
                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    You didn’t understand me. You will always moan, no matter who will be your president.
                    And whose successor Putin is, is clear to me: he was nominated by forces that were not indifferent to the fate of Russia. And something tells me (this is my subjective opinion) that it was not without the "former" KGB. Remember who our president was before.

                    Something tells me that the "former" KGB has nothing to do with it, otherwise this KGB would not have screwed up the USSR so ineptly.
                    Who was our president before? Hmmm ... a tough question. Maybe he was an adviser to the chairman of the Leningrad City Council of People's Deputies, liberal Sobchak?
                    Or the deputy of the same Sobchak when he became mayor? Or headed the St. Petersburg branch of the Yeltsin PDR? Or the first deputy head of the Yeltsin administration?
                  2. +5
                    25 February 2016 17: 04
                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    You will always moan, no matter who will be your president.

                    complete nonsense
                    Quote: СРЦ П-15
                    he was put forward by forces that were not indifferent to the fate of Russia.

                    Well, yes, Eltsin was a battering ram for the collapse before the founding of the Soviet system, and Putin was already building a new "system", never deviating from the liberal dogma.
          3. +1
            25 February 2016 16: 24
            Putin is your president, but when you merge the remaining strengths that Russia received from the USSR and the final ass starts, you will be in demand.
            1. -4
              25 February 2016 16: 33
              Quote: Corvetkapitan
              Putin is your president, but when you merge the remaining strengths,

              Faster you all merge ...
              1. +6
                25 February 2016 16: 46
                No one is eternal. I have already been sent to the Caucasus to burn in the antediluvian T-62M. I will not be, and you and your offspring will not survive me for long, choke on all stolen Sovdep vegetable bases and candle factories.
                1. +5
                  25 February 2016 17: 21
                  I apologize, but you weren’t in the armored forces, that is, in the 160th tank regiment. At Budanova.
                  1. +3
                    25 February 2016 20: 07
                    No, in the 160th regiment I was not able to serve, but I met Budanov. We were thrown into a meat grinder as part of the 93rd regiment, also armed with antique T-62M. I still can’t understand who had the idea of ​​throwing the Marine Corps into the mountains in a war. The 93rd regiment was a mechanized regiment of the BB, and since it was thrown to the leading edge, it was decided somewhere at the top that all these antique tanks should be strengthened by sending elite units, airborne forces and marines with them into battle. In Russia today it is full of T-72AV, T-72S, T-72B, T-71B1, T-72BM and others that have active armor, relative to modern tanks. I still can not understand who and why it occurred to me to send to antediluvian war T-62. Apparently they decided to utilize this junk, but together with the crews. Oh, it would be my will, I would put all these Napoleons, such as Pasha Grachev, against the wall.
          4. Boos
            +6
            25 February 2016 18: 27
            This is not poison, but a bitter truth. Operate with facts! Putin is the president of the bourgeoisie. Refute, give an example of decent wages from workers "forging the shield of the Motherland." We all know about the golden parachutes of Putin's managers.
      3. -1
        25 February 2016 15: 58
        Oh and golden words !!! And then everyone from work drags a bundle of paper or a bundle of wire (just in case or to tie up tomatoes), and in the evening he writes whole petitions about the fight against corruption and Putin made every effort ... But the only problem is that he himself cannot stole so much. And he could - so he would drag even more than 100 chubais. Corruption and theft were born even earlier than commodity-money relations, this is in the nature of man. Absolutely honest and incorruptible in the history of the fingers count. And in our country there are definitely not 1,5 million of them)))
        1. +7
          25 February 2016 16: 28
          If the workers were paid normally so that they could live on, no one would have dragged the wire. You wouldn’t have to pay your salary for about 6 months, and then ask why you are not crystal honest. The State Duma in Russia receives loot on time and not at 13000 rubles per a month, as in many factories. It is one thing when a person has nothing to eat and nothing to feed his family, and quite another when a person is filling bank accounts in Switzerland
          1. 0
            29 February 2016 16: 52
            Well, that’s absolutely not good - to wish a bad thing to a stranger ... So that they don’t pay me a salary ... And it happens, I find a part-time job, now I work at my second job ... I just never steal. And I’m not going to prove this to anyone who needs to, let him check. And my father served in the army in 90, and didn’t receive those same half a year, so, imagine, I didn’t bring any stewed cans during this time ... So I think your message is wrong.
        2. +5
          25 February 2016 16: 36
          Quote: Docent1984
          Oh and golden words !!! And then everyone from work drags a bundle of paper or a bundle of wire (just in case or to tie up tomatoes), and in the evening he writes whole petitions about the fight against corruption and Putin made every effort ... But the only problem is that he himself cannot stole so much. And he could - so he would drag even more than 100 chubais. Corruption and theft were born even earlier than commodity-money relations, this is in the nature of man. Absolutely honest and incorruptible in the history of the fingers count. And in our country there are definitely not 1,5 million of them)))

          It is not good to judge others by yourself. If you carry packs of paper from work, then not all are like that. And there is no need to justify your thieving inclinations by "human nature".)
          1. 0
            29 February 2016 16: 55
            Well, this is frank rudeness. In decent houses they beat for such a face) It's not like dragging paper from my work - you have to bring your own from time to time ... And put your allegations back into your back, okay? wink
        3. Boos
          +6
          25 February 2016 18: 53
          Yeah, a connoisseur of people - Associate Professor. And I remember the USSR when I threw three kopecks at the box office of the tram, and in the car no one but me. And there were most of them!
    4. -2
      25 February 2016 15: 29
      You "sang" from the words of our dermocrats. Who is stopping you from leading the country? The Constitution is not prohibited. You and the cards in hand. Achinea is easier to carry than a log!
    5. +2
      25 February 2016 15: 34
      Everyone sees around, only what he wants to see. In 90's, someone was walking around restaurants, and someone in the hungry taiga garrisons ground the stew. For a man, you have a lot of thought in general. Bad Putin? Waiting for your election program.
      1. -8
        25 February 2016 15: 55
        Quote: black
        Everyone sees around, only what he wants to see. In 90's, someone was walking around restaurants, and someone in the hungry taiga garrisons ground the stew. For a man, you have a lot of thought in general. Bad Putin? Waiting for your election program.

        and all this liberal and communist shobla in a duet with the bourgeoisie because of this and freaks out that without a chance
        1. +1
          25 February 2016 19: 16
          And what is your Putin better than all this communist shobla ?! 1) The communists dispossessed my great-grandfather 4 times, I do not speak for other relatives. All the property of my ancestors was seized by the state, represented by the CPSU. And what?! Your Putin paid me compensation for property stolen from my family ?! No, and it’s not going to ... But rootless little actors, such as Pugachikha, recorded themselves in the countess. Yes, with people like her in former times they didn’t even say hello to decent society. All these actors were always on the same level with street girls, and here the countess ... Ugh. 2) After the collapse of the USSR, all your liberals stole the entire gold reserves of the USSR and the personal savings of citizens. Did your Putin pay compensation ?! No, but those pennies that he paid are ridiculous and look just like a mockery at the people robbed by all of these Yeltsins, Gorbachevs and Gaidars, whom your Putin places monuments and names which he calls universities. All of you are a thief, that the CPSU, that your Putin and do not give a damn about the people and the country ...
          1. owl
            +3
            25 February 2016 19: 25
            Quote: Corvetkapitan
            The communists dispossessed my great-grandfather 4 times

            It’s quite interesting how ?, I’m serious, it just sounds like 4 times shot!
            1. +2
              25 February 2016 19: 58
              How do you ask ?! And I will tell you what my own grandmother, the daughter of that same 4 times dispossessed great-grandfather, told me. My great-grandfather was a Don Cossack, not rich, but had his own land and economy. The CPSU began to force everyone into a collective farm, taking away property. My great-grandfather refused to go to the collective farm. From the house they took everything that they could pick up. Well, my great-grandfather’s hands remained, he opened a shoe store, shoe shop, and something else. The authorities did not like this, and they, in fact, robbed my family as long as there was not even a sack of grain left in the house. That's how 4 times and dispossessed.
          2. -4
            25 February 2016 19: 57
            Quote: Corvetkapitan
            And what is your Putin better than all this communist shobla ?! 1) The communists dispossessed my great-grandfather 4 times, I do not speak for other relatives. All the property of my ancestors was seized by the state, represented by the CPSU. And what?! Your Putin paid me compensation for property stolen from my family ?! No, and it’s not going to ... But rootless little actors, such as Pugachikha, recorded themselves in the countess. Yes, with people like her in former times they didn’t even say hello to decent society. All these actors were always on the same level with street girls, and here the countess ... Ugh. ...

            so what about longing? Are you worried that they didn’t give the carafe a fist?
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            2. +2
              25 February 2016 20: 12
              The Reds came to rob, the White came to rob. Urya Urya ... One thief.
            3. +2
              25 February 2016 20: 16
              What they gave my family was given for military merit, and not for drunken songs. And a wealthy plebeian, no matter how he makes himself the master of life, is no match for me. Part of my ancestors received the hereditary nobility in the 14th century.
              1. 0
                26 February 2016 00: 48
                Quote: Corvetkapitan
                What they gave my family was given for military merit, and not for drunken songs. And a wealthy plebeian, no matter how he makes himself the master of life, is no match for me. Part of my ancestors received the hereditary nobility in the 14th century.

                Well, as if in the 14th century, a Cossack nobleman is like a bear librarian
                1. +1
                  26 February 2016 01: 15
                  In winter you have been walking a lot without a hat, or are you pretending ?! One great-grandfather is my Don Cossack, the second is a hereditary nobleman. Did you see the coat of arms ?! The Seliverstovs were not Cossacks, but Ivan the Terrible had governors in Russia.
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                1. -1
                  26 February 2016 01: 23
                  Found a coat of arms. ... corvette captain. He doesn’t lie, however, according to Brockhaus and Efron. ..from the end of the 16 century. ..so lies. .. :-)
                  And then, whether his coat of arms or pulled the picture?
                  Seliverstovs
                  a noble family, originating, according to the legends of ancient genealogists, from the "honest husband" Theognist who left the Great Horde, in the baptism of Vasily, whose son Seliverst was the ancestor of S. Bogdan Vasilyevich S. was a voivode in Livny and on Oskol (1596). Afanasy Yermolaevich S. was the governor of Velikopermsk, Cherdyn and Solikamsk (1654), Fedor Afanasyevich S. - in Ryazhsk (1659), his brother Ivan - in Kaluga (1678) and Aleksin (1682), Yakov Fedorovich S. - in Yadrin (1693) ). The genus S. is included in the VI part of the genus. book Tula and Tambov lips. (see Herbbook).
                  V. R.

                  Encyclopedic Dictionary F.A. Brockhaus and I.A. Efron. - S.-Pb .: Brockhaus-Efron. 1890 — 1907.
                  1. +1
                    26 February 2016 01: 42
                    It was not the groom who was appointed governor, but the Tatar prince. I would not give you more than `` 2 '' for logical thinking.
    6. -1
      25 February 2016 15: 39
      Quote: Corvetkapitan
      .Industry of Russia is surviving in recent years.

      Well, yes, it flourished under Yeltsin.
      Quote: Corvetkapitan
      .Pensioners who receive a poor salary + pension work at factories.

      Which factory do you work for yourself?
      1. +1
        25 February 2016 19: 59
        Relatives work at VASO and Rudgormash.
    7. 0
      25 February 2016 15: 45
      Come on, go ahead - do what you propose? Well?
      Let me guess - all the space! the way of God!
    8. -3
      25 February 2016 15: 48
      You say everything correctly, but to do this you need to be a tough dictator like Stalin, and this is difficult in the modern World, many may not understand. To change the trend in a peaceful way, this requires years of development, but Putin needs a strong army to start, he already does this, then he will take up the economy, if everything is done the other way around, they will trample us. The article says it right, the West has long had plans to destroy us and Putin is doing everything to prevent this from happening
      1. +1
        26 February 2016 11: 06
        Some stupid people minus. There are people here who do not understand what is happening at all, now I will explain. after the 90s, all products (90%) were busy from abroad in order to change the trend, as many say, it is necessary to build factories and factories and then the economy will grow, that's all right, but how to do it when almost all of our market is full with products from abroad and cheap at the same time, all our stores buy from abroad, let's say we built factories, how will we sell products when all our stores are oriented to abroad? So I say a tough dictator will help here, but this method is already in past. After the sanction imposed by the West and after the counter-sanction (import substitution), this factor can help us, but it cannot give a result in two or five years (to build factories you need serious investments, but where to get them? + Technologies are needed, where a large percentage we buy from the West), it takes a lot more time here, if our government does not take advantage of this moment, then in this case we do not need such a government. As for the Army, this is our only salvation against the West, you don’t see that they are slowly surrounding us, and we have just begun a serious rearmament and who is minus, he is not at all friendly with his head
    9. -1
      25 February 2016 15: 50
      And that Putin should you build new factories and industry? And the factories at which they pay beggarly salaries are also state-owned? Maybe it’s time to already understand that the industry, in addition to the defense industry, is in the hands of private businessmen, maybe it’s time to already guess who is driving the industry and who is responsible for everything.
    10. +2
      25 February 2016 15: 56
      Quote: Corvetkapitan
      .Industry of Russia is surviving in recent years.

      That is why Russia, which is living out its "last years of industry," and last year became the second (after the United States) country - an arms supplier on the world market. And the ability to produce high-tech weapons (aviation, submarines, air defense systems) is an indicator of the development of both production and science.
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  10. +5
    25 February 2016 15: 04
    Russia offered them friendship, and they enslaved us. Putin is just a patriot.
  11. -2
    25 February 2016 15: 06
    Putin’s main vector is the strengthening of Russia, its economic, political and military growth.
  12. +5
    25 February 2016 15: 07
    It seems to be an explanatory article ... but everything is on top .. an abstract in one word, a VERY mysterious person Vladimir Vladimirovich ... history will give Him a Name ..
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 09: 59
      And the article was not entitled "All the secrets of Putin."
  13. +1
    25 February 2016 15: 08
    Putin was so "pro-Western" that our partners from that part of the world were simply frightened of our "all-embracing love", realizing that the dominant feature in this "union" would be the Russian Federation! And as soon as they realized this, instead of flirting, they immediately began to behave in the old way, in the spirit of the Cold War, to contain. Well, it became obvious for a long time! Remember there was a period when the Russian Federation was with everyone, everything was developing around, everything was in chocolate. But as soon as Putin began to dominate Obama in the Western press on foreign policy, everything immediately changed. Stepped on the pride of the first black president. So he rushed fully armed.
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 10: 02
      Putin was so "pro-Western" that our partners from that part of the world were simply frightened of our "all-embracing love", realizing that the dominant feature in this "union" would be the Russian Federation!


      It is possible that taka.Hotya rather Europe itself was frightened, a close alliance with Russia, if necessary, taking into account Russian interests.
  14. -2
    25 February 2016 15: 11
    As a strategist replay obama in all respects.
  15. owl
    +6
    25 February 2016 15: 12
    what was “Putin’s foreign policy”

    Give "Putin's internal policy" to the external one has already "gorged" enough!
    1. +5
      25 February 2016 15: 26
      That's it, otherwise Siluanov is lamenting again the other day - costs need to be reduced
      1. owl
        +9
        25 February 2016 15: 40
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        That's it, otherwise Siluanov

        Regarding Siluanov
      2. +6
        25 February 2016 16: 04
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        That's it, otherwise Siluanov is lamenting again the other day - costs need to be reduced

        Siluanov is right. Costs need to be reduced. The entire government and the State Duma should be cut by 50%. The ministries and other officials should be reduced by 70%, office plankton should be replaced by robots: they don’t take bribes and work around the clock, without requiring compensation and overtime. This way you need to optimize other management structures. Here you can save on only one salary and bonus.
        1. +1
          25 February 2016 20: 55
          Quote: Amurets
          Quote: Stirbjorn
          That's it, otherwise Siluanov is lamenting again the other day - costs need to be reduced

          Siluanov is right. Costs need to be reduced. The entire government and the State Duma should be cut by 50%. The ministries and other officials should be reduced by 70%, office plankton should be replaced by robots: they don’t take bribes and work around the clock, without requiring compensation and overtime. This way you need to optimize other management structures. Here you can save on only one salary and bonus.


          That's just Mr. Siluanov proposes to save on the defense industry (10%, sort of), on health care, on the cancellation or reduction of social payments, etc.
          But at the expense of effective managers, he seemed to speak at deputies and bankers.
    2. owl
      +4
      25 February 2016 19: 40
      In the movie "good" !, if not for the inscription at the beginning and the absence of lying corpses could be confused with the Donbass airport sad all to the glory .....
  16. +4
    25 February 2016 15: 19
    Urgently need to hold a referendum on the nationalization of the center of the bank and amend the constitution !!! Then the GDP will definitely restore order within the country !!!!
  17. +5
    25 February 2016 15: 20
    Although the West calls Putin, Assad, formerly Lukashenko (now he doesn’t, it means the fetus has ripened), they are by no means dictators. As was not him and Gaddafi. But now he has not refused a real dictator. To restore order in the country.
    1. 0
      25 February 2016 15: 52
      If we take this term of history (who were called dictators first, then they are) then Yes. And that’s even a compliment in some way) that’s even it))
  18. +10
    25 February 2016 15: 26
    The article is boring and predictable - a set of stamps. Liberal liberals, but Putin is sun-faced. Directly under the carbon paper. It seems that Putin does not keep the liberal government led by Medvedev, but break through the oligarchs. And the budget is being cut.
    1. +2
      25 February 2016 21: 00
      Quote: Stirbjorn
      The article is boring and predictable - a set of stamps. Liberal liberals, but Putin is sun-faced. Directly under the carbon paper. It seems that Putin does not keep the liberal government led by Medvedev, but break through the oligarchs. And the budget is being cut.

      Quote: Stirbjorn
      The article is boring and predictable - a set of stamps. Liberal liberals, but Putin is sun-faced. Directly under the carbon paper. It seems that Putin does not keep the liberal government led by Medvedev, but break through the oligarchs. And the budget is being cut.

      Oleg Egorov and on the next branch acts as "advocate" of the current Russian "ruling elite". What they say to Ukraine, they are not pr ... whether the circumstances, they say, so happened.
  19. -5
    25 February 2016 15: 27
    Why so many book and liberal articles?
    On the fifty-fifth line, it’s no longer interesting. Not informative, well, in general, the poor fellow was left without a prize.
    and Lord! and this west wants to overwhelm Putin when his wife has an Olympic champion, but on the contrary ... Well, in general, what our motorists write. Obama did run into a friendly handshake.
  20. +5
    25 February 2016 15: 30
    "Europe will always be ungrateful to Russia, because of its arrogance, to be on an equal footing with Russia is humiliating for its historical dignity" - F.M. Dostoevsky
  21. -3
    25 February 2016 15: 30
    May God grant Putin health and long life. Now I am calm for the future of my son.
    1. +5
      25 February 2016 16: 46
      And why are you so calm, do not tell? At the very son grows up. Here and Syria and the Donbass and Central Asia. Here many write that they feel the approach of war. And on the contrary, you are calm.
    2. +5
      25 February 2016 16: 48
      Quote: serezhasoldatow
      Now I am calm for the future of my son.

      And if you remove the pink glasses?
      1. +2
        25 February 2016 18: 51
        Quote: Karabin
        Quote: serezhasoldatow
        Now I am calm for the future of my son.

        And if you remove the pink glasses?

        It doesn’t work out - pinned by nails. laughing
        1. owl
          +2
          25 February 2016 19: 02
          Quote: Wheel
          pinned by nails

          At the same time, vital organs are not affected by "hundreds" due to their absence at the "workplace"!
  22. +1
    25 February 2016 15: 32
    I could have taught the article a million pluses. Our management needs potential "partners" at each meeting to poke their noses into the fires they kindled around the world. Although it is clear that this is like talking with the insane, since you have to be a complete idiot to hope for an end war after the departure of Assad in the same Syria, with Libya and Iraq before our eyes.
  23. 0
    25 February 2016 15: 36
    I agree with the author on the main points. Article plus.
  24. +9
    25 February 2016 15: 37
    I already have two warnings, I don’t want a third one, otherwise I would have honestly expressed it without croaking all that I think about Putin’s domestic policy ... and his foreign one is not a fountain either. ..
    1. +9
      25 February 2016 16: 06
      Failure is everywhere and in everything. The border is surrounded by unfriendly states, at least. Or even just hostile. The government, which covers all its failed activities at the expense of the population. The oligarchs also win back their money for us. All around rampant corruption and outright theft. There is no punishment. Medvedev, Serdyukov, Miller, Dvorkovich, and further down the list should have been sitting on bunks for a long time at least, but VVP is happy with them. So nefig scold the environment of GDP and "forget" to mention the most crowned Putin. And then you just hear. Putin is cooler than boiled eggs. Irreplaceable and successful in everything. But Medvedev, the ministers, Serdyukov - they appointed themselves and keep afloat. Serdyukov swims successfully for the collapse of the military and theft. Siluanov and Nabiullina are still there. The king is played by the retinue ... And this retinue consists entirely of enemies. So why has nothing to do with Putin?
  25. -3
    25 February 2016 15: 48
    "Putin is a pragmatist, not a charismatic"
    Already funny. I don’t personally remember a more charismatic personality than V.V. Putin after I.V. Stalin in the top leadership of Russia (USSR). Yes, his aphorisms who just does not quote.
    1. +6
      25 February 2016 16: 51
      Quote: Viking
      Yes, his aphorisms who just does not quote.

      Kozma Rods of our days! Hooray!
  26. +2
    25 February 2016 15: 53
    The West is ready to consider only its own opinion in the negotiations. And Putin understood this in time.
  27. 0
    25 February 2016 15: 54
    Trying to come to an agreement with Europe was the only choice from a strategic point of view, even from a tactical one. Since the country has come to the very edge mentioned in the next branch. The article correctly emphasized that no one was going to negotiate with us. With the right leadership, Russia automatically becomes a strong player, for this everything is there - resources, our mentality in the end. Regardless of the system, even socialism, even capitalism. And this obviously does not want to. The price depends on the situation, especially domestic policy. Here, liberals, frankly, have victories. Due to the impact on youth through education (both ours and foreign), including. Yes, regardless of the name of our president, if he respects the independence of Russia, there would be such a howl abroad. But we must pay tribute to our president, all the same, he respects the interests of the country in the foreign policy arena.
    Ha, wrote to the arena, and immediately associations: bullfight, or broken noses of boxers))
  28. +1
    25 February 2016 16: 00
    "that the Europeans do not offer us anything interesting." ///

    Europeans and us - Israel - did not offer anything interesting.
    We began to offer them something interesting - technologies to which
    they did not think of it, and the trading business went smoothly, and the money flowed
    in our pocket.

    "there is no" pro-Western "option for Russia - this is a myth" ////

    And what options exist:
    "food-resistant" - to be friends with China, Korea, Japan? Absurd. For them Russia is a "Western barbarian".
    "Middle Asian" - to be friends with Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan ... you can, but you won't go far.
    "pro-Indian", "pro-Iranian" - these countries are completely different from Russia.
    Own way? Lock up? And soon to be technologically and politically at the level of North Korea:
    "Hurray for the immortal leader, a two-bed garden and an atomic bomb?"

    One cannot escape and close from world trade, finance and globalization, nor can one close oneself from changing seasons.
    1. +2
      25 February 2016 17: 55
      Ah, we get it! We need to scatter around the countries and continents for 2 (two) thousand years, leave our land, roam, steal, become hateful for the whole world. Interesting, and then invent, anti-Russianism. No, you keep your Jewish to yourself. not for us. This is yours, the motherland is where s ... warm!
  29. 0
    25 February 2016 16: 08
    GDP is a normal man (not a man, but a man). And already the seventh dozen exchanged. And that means lying to ourselves and leaving behind a bad memory (and we all are not eternal) is simply stupid. In general, it is well known that Russia has never been under anyone. And so it will always be !!!
  30. +6
    25 February 2016 16: 17
    Great! fellow But what about the economy, education and health? And most importantly, with CORRUPTION! What to do with this? Or if we win in Syria and Ukraine, will the rest work out well?
  31. +5
    25 February 2016 16: 18
    In Russia, ugly medical care as in the 90s, the same ugly education, corruption is also flourishing. Huge differences in the salaries of superiors and subordinates, as well as in the 90s, prices are constantly rising for everything. pay, people who were in power under Yeltsin are still working, no one has been punished or convicted for the collapse and plunder of the country and the army. The government defends the interests of the rich. In contrast to the 90, the army became capable, but otherwise NATO troops will soon come to our border. And Crimea returned to Russia and now Ukraine does not have to pay for the fleet in Crimea. Positive changes have appeared in foreign policy, Well, inside the country the situation will be as perverse as always, while there will be an existing political system in the country that was specially created in the 90s with the goal of destroying the country. I put Putin 4 for foreign policy and firm 2 for internal politics. You have to understand that the country's leadership in the police, in business circles there are many influential and wealthy characters who are happy with everything, who have filled their pockets in 25 years and they don’t need conflicts with the West, they don’t need to fight corruption, the worse the people the better for them. to win is very difficult. wink
  32. -8
    25 February 2016 16: 38
    Normal article ...

    I read the comments ... Many of them are abusive towards Putin because he allegedly did little for the country ...

    I involuntarily want to ask a question: Do you hope that if Prokhorov-Kasyanov_navalny comes to power and it will be better with them ??? Or the same Zyuganov ???

    It seems to me that the current Putin has done much more positive than Gorbachev and Yeltsin ???

    All the same, you need to practically evaluate all the realities of today's life ...

    The author is right that Putin WAS a pro-Western ... What did it cost to just stubbornly pulling Russia into the WTO, which lasted a lot of years, and did nothing but harm to us ...

    Once again, being pro-Western, he became convinced that the West needs us only the humiliated and plundered, and no more ...

    And God forbid not to lose even those external positions that have been won recently ...

    And in domestic politics ... Ehm ... Is it really not visible that sabotage is going on all this fucking vertical of power ??? And it begins with small towns and cities, with municipal princes and officials, whom we ourselves choose ...
  33. +5
    25 February 2016 16: 50
    Putin may be good in foreign policy, but damn it, our economy has been marking time since 2008, and today it is completely declining. I still have the feeling that Putin has a direct relationship to this, as if he is acting in conjunction with the West, hiding behind a screen of his foreign policy successes, just to slow down our development. Of course, I understand that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, our economy is tightly tied to the dollar and the boyars who surrounded Putin in every possible way prevent the national leader from doing his good deeds, but what prevents the president from removing them? Well, or do at least something in this direction? To take, eventually to intercept the economic and informational levers of government in the country? I really want to be wrong about all this conspiracy, but still, based on the information howling about "aggressive Russia", one should assume that the Anglo-Saxons are preparing a "second pan-European blitzkrieg" against us, which means that we have little time and we need to quickly prepare the economy for a possible war, and what has been done in this direction for the last 6 years? Practically nothing. And this looks extremely unusual for such a great and self-sufficient state as Russia.
    1. +5
      25 February 2016 16: 58
      Quote: DREDD
      Putin may be good in foreign policy, but damn it, our economy has been marking time since 2008, and today it is completely declining. I still have the feeling that Putin has a direct relationship to this, as if he is acting in conjunction with the West, hiding behind a screen of his foreign policy successes, just to slow down our development. Of course, I understand that after the collapse of the Soviet Union, our economy is tightly tied to the dollar and the boyars who surrounded Putin in every possible way prevent the national leader from doing his good deeds, but what prevents the president from removing them? Well, or do at least something in this direction? To take, eventually to intercept the economic and informational levers of government in the country? I really want to be wrong about all this conspiracy, but still, based on the information howling about "aggressive Russia", one should assume that the Anglo-Saxons are preparing a "second pan-European blitzkrieg" against us, which means that we have little time and we need to quickly prepare the economy for a possible war, and what has been done in this direction for the last 6 years? Practically nothing. And this looks extremely unusual for such a great and self-sufficient state as Russia.

      Who does not like Putin is a liberal, an Anglo-Saxon servant, a grant-eater and, in general, a byak. Repent before it's too late !!!
    2. +2
      25 February 2016 19: 09
      Quote: DREDD
      And it looks extremely unusual for such a great and self-sufficient state as Russia.

      Russia has long been not self-sufficient.
      Shoelaces and lighters have forgotten how to do ...
  34. +1
    25 February 2016 17: 01
    Russia + Europe = Death of the USA, this is an obvious formula. Therefore, bleed us. But overseas they will not be able to sit out.
  35. -2
    25 February 2016 17: 05
    Quote: EvgNik
    But now he has not refused a real dictator. To restore order in the country.
    Do you miss the Gulag? laughing
  36. -1
    25 February 2016 17: 10
    "... the name of the national leader ..." is very important - OFFICER OF THE ARMY and FLEET
    1. +1
      25 February 2016 17: 42
      Well, let's imagine instead of Putin a certain Semen Semenycha,
      also Western "partners" come and offer TWO options: like Yatsenyuk or Gaddafi
      So choose .... request
  37. +5
    25 February 2016 17: 14
    Why suddenly such a PR campaign? Presidential elections coming soon? And where did you get the idea that they sit here and send their "bulk" theses and other "Khodorkovsky" theses to users, which the citizens of the Russian Federation will trust more than the president?

    Here is one quote:
    Then what is it? What is the reason for such an absolute rejection of GDP in the EU? But the denial was complete, maximum, unshakable - Assad / Putin must leave. "We must save the Russians ...". But why? It is not absolutely clear. You know, I run the risk of speculating that it’s not Putin at all. The point is “Putin’s policy”.


    The reason for rejection of the GDP is that it did not kneel before the ruling world of the United States, as did those who live and rule in the countries of the European Union (although, how strong it is - "rules" ... executes commands). Therefore, he became an outcast in the camp of hypocrites, liars and the most ordinary American bedding (although in private conversations they are completely different, apparently the fear of the Soviet KGB affects). laughing

    So, let's leave these advantages. Something the author did not say, why, with such successful multi-paths in foreign policy, did we not conquer inflation in any year of government? WHY??? Phrase: "Beat your own so that strangers are afraid" - stop it is not appropriate here ... We ignore the calls: "Putin must leave!", but we are not at all opposed to embezzlers and economic amateurs leaving the government and state structures. It would be fine if the GDP periodically exchanged mediocrities for smart people. So far, this is only a replacement for Serdyukov-Shoigu.
    And then what? Kudrina was replaced by Siluanov. The first (understandably, in friends) was released in circulation (???) incompetence? Why does his face constantly annoy the townsfolk? Siluanov does not promise any positive changes at all ... Will we believe in a non-existent happy tomorrow and live from elections to elections? How many more dunes do you need to cross so that light looms over the calm expanse of the sea of ​​plenty?

    How great it is noticed:
    ... Yeltsin also wanted to stir up something like that ...

    Maybe enough muddy? Fifteen years of leadership and a trio of trustworthy people in power? The decision to appoint both the head of government and the further work of ministers and governors is made by the President of the Russian Federation ... Maybe, in which case, change the status of the Central Bank ... or hold a referendum on any issues ...

    By and large, we are all fed up with the successes of Putin’s foreign policy, we want to enjoy (about the same) in our domestic policy, which, unlike foreign, is for domestic use. And, as you know, it’s very harmful for health to use expired products of dubious quality with pronounced signs of wilting and the presence of rot ...
    hi
    1. +5
      25 February 2016 17: 46
      we are all fed up with Putin’s foreign policy successes

      List successes, please. I do not see point-blank success in foreign policy. Syria with ISIS is an attempt to delay the movement of ISIS to the side of Russia as much as possible. The whole world is convinced that we are pecking the peaceful opposition there. And what about Ukraine and all border countries - everything is profane. NATO climbs to the borders and encircles us with its bases.
      1. -1
        25 February 2016 17: 51
        I do not see any success in foreign policy


        Just a balm on psakina ulcer ....
      2. +4
        25 February 2016 19: 12
        Quote: sds87
        Syria with ISIS is an attempt to delay the movement of ISIS to the side of Russia as much as possible.

        Syria with ISIS is an attempt to delay the gas pipeline from Qatar to Europe as much as possible, so, for understanding ...
        1. 0
          26 February 2016 09: 30
          Thank you for pointing this factor out. It is even more important for our rulers than everything else taken together. Without a working pipe, oligarchs only bite seeds on the mound ...
    2. 0
      26 February 2016 09: 54
      Something the author did not say, why, with such successful multiple moves in foreign policy, did we not beat inflation in any year of government? WHY???


      Do not you think that your question is somewhat strange?
  38. +1
    25 February 2016 17: 52
    When the West realizes that we will "feed" with "Calibers" in Europe all those dissatisfied with Russia's policy, then they will stop "dictating" and agree to all our "democratic" conditions.
  39. +2
    25 February 2016 17: 53
    Russia needs an oprichnina, needs a new one '37 - this is an obvious path traveled many times. The only question is, is Putin ready to become the new leader, or is the chance missed? Are the people ready?
  40. +3
    25 February 2016 17: 59
    Great article, logical.
    Let's get back to the reality around us: Putin's foreign policy is a failure on failure, in fact, one grandiose failure. Everything that Putin did or was going to do did not bear any fruit, and what he succeeded is now slowly dying. Let's assume that external enemies and the "genius" Lavrov are to blame.
    Domestic economy - depressing failures on all fronts, private entrepreneurship independent of the "bosses" is driven into a stall and destroyed, against the background of total embezzlement of the budget. Domestic policy - everything leads to the disintegration of the state, against the background of the complete dismantling of the state's social obligations. Let's say the "fools and the roads" are to blame - liberals and nedimon.
    The question is, if everything is so bad, why is the formal leader of this brothel all in white and on horseback?
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 09: 50
      Putin's foreign policy - failure on failure, in fact one grand failure


      ??
      Sorry - you tell some terrible things belay
  41. PKK
    -3
    25 February 2016 18: 01
    Quote: Your friend

    Ahahaha, don’t you forget to apply to the icon with Putin on the dashboard every day?)
    Reply Quote Report

    Well, you then without reminders licking a chocolate eye in the morning and evening at least.
    1. -1
      25 February 2016 18: 03
      Quote: PKK
      Quote: Your friend

      Ahahaha, don’t you forget to apply to the icon with Putin on the dashboard every day?)
      Reply Quote Report

      Well, you then without reminders licking a chocolate eye in the morning and evening at least.

      What is a chocolate eye? If you lick it from morning to evening, then give a definition, otherwise I do not know. Ahahaha.
  42. +5
    25 February 2016 19: 35
    But you tell me, dear supporters of the gdp. Why did his predecessor YOBN, having the same constitution (edited by the US State Department), behave like a self-reigning king, change governments and ministers like shoulder prostitutes, parliament shoot him, wage a civil war, he has been a vegetable in recent years. But the present is hindered by some laws. Maybe GDP is a political impotent? We may recall that the gdp business started in Sobchak’s team and under the control of the Tambov gang, leader Kumarin. then an invitation to the team of Russian privatizers of Chubais and employees of foreign special services. Here in this garbage and the gdp was brewing for several years. then rapid growth on a career ladder. Who helped, what was promised? Regarding the dictatorship ... Singapore President Lee Sy Man Dictator? Hugo Chavez is a dictator? Maybe they are just patriots of their country and their people? By the way, the gdp met with the president of Singapore, who defeated corruption in his country in 4 years. The result of the meeting is 0. Let's look at the environment of the gdp, is there at least one decent person, is there a patriot of his country?
    1. owl
      +2
      25 February 2016 19: 51
      Quote: user3970
      parliament shot

      In fairness, it must be said that the parliament was shot before the adoption of the constitution Yes but otherwise all are true - nine out of ten "patriots" are sick with schizophrenia, this is also a proven fact hi
    2. -1
      25 February 2016 22: 21
      Because it is difficult to raise the country after defeat in the war (Cold, the Americans even instituted medals for this victory) This stage, in my opinion, is similar to the beginning of Stalin as the leader of the country. But there are nuances. If Stalin started practically from "zero", then the GDP got a difficult past that had to be pulled. And God sees stretched out. Thank him for that.
      1. 0
        26 February 2016 17: 56
        Quote: avebersek
        Because it is difficult to raise the country after defeat in the war (Cold, the Americans even instituted medals for this victory) This stage, in my opinion, is similar to the beginning of Stalin as the leader of the country. But there are nuances. If Stalin started practically from "zero", then the GDP got a difficult past that had to be pulled. And God sees stretched out. Thank him for that.

        By the tacit verbal "impotence" of the user3970 it is clear that your answer did not satisfy him lol
        And here I am in agreement with your comment.


  43. +2
    25 February 2016 19: 49
    The country needs a military dictatorship of 6 years, and so that no one could leave the country, then an internal investigation for 20 years, and mass courts
    1. -1
      25 February 2016 20: 16
      So that no one could leave the country within 6 years, this certainly never wakes up.
  44. 0
    25 February 2016 22: 37
    Squealed straight ........
    even put a scarecrow in the Kremlin
    they were either satisfied with the Romanovs, then Stalin, then communism, now Putin ??????
    laugh
    subsoil resources and territory "illegally" occupied by the Russian people with BROTHERIC peoples
    HERE and EVERYTHING that does not suit them .....
    and P ..... nothing at all .......
  45. 0
    26 February 2016 00: 34
    Like the 21st century. Transport technologies have reached a good level, and the feeling is like that of a king of peas: only Europe has light in the window and the standard.
    Capital flows have long shifted to Southeast Asia, new sales and securities markets have opened (although since the time of CMEA the countries' location has not changed), and again we, like Mowgli, have our own path ... Nothing bypassing and we have all reached our goal ...
    I just want to say so quietly to my president that nastolgiya is wonderful, you served in Germany, but there are still many interesting countries. Yes, and the standard (Europe), as it changes not for the better ... But is it not time to correct the vector.
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 10: 10
      You served in Germany, but there are still many interesting countries.


      Yes, something like that, Putin tried his best to "make friends with Germany."
      He had such a dream.

      But in spite of all the efforts, it did not work out with Germany for either Nicholas II or Stalin ...
      So from my point of view - this is such a deadly "enticement" for Russians - friendship with Berlin.
      We dream about it all the time, but it never comes true ...

      So, apparently, we need to look for some other solutions: even with the sworn American "partners" they agreed on a truce in Syria and only Merkel tears and mosques - supports Erdogan and scolds the Aerospace Forces ...

      Somehow it does not develop with us in Germany. request
  46. 0
    26 February 2016 11: 34
    I read to the phrase
    By the way, for some reason Lukashenko doesn’t understand this.

    and confidence in the author and the material has declined. Who will explain to me why Lukashenko does not understand?
    I respect patriotism in all its manifestations except the extreme ones, since in the extreme manifestation extreme patriotism is no different from extreme nationalism (to put it Nazism)

    Of all the disputes with the "urapatriots of the Russian Federation" or "urapatriots RB" I could not get a clear answer from my opponents in what the AG was guilty before them
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 12: 47
      I could not get a clear answer from my opponents. What did the AG do to them?


      Colleague - sincerely welcome on this resource! hi

      Thanks to his presence, it was already possible to fully speak on this topic - please see my first two articles + comments on them. In principle, the article and comments about embroidery are also there.

      It's more difficult to say more - I'm not a political scientist