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State Department: Sale of Su-30CM fighter jets to Iran will violate UN resolution

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The sale of Russian military aircraft to Iran will violate the UN restrictions on the supply of arms to Tehran, such a deal requires separate permission from the Security Council, said State Department spokesman Mark Toner.




“We have seen reports of discussions on the possible future sale of Su-30CM multi-role fighter jets to Iran. UN Security Council Resolution 2231 bans the sale of specific categories of common types to Iran weaponsentered into the UN Register of Conventional Arms without prior approval in each case ”,
quotes Toner newspaper MIC.

He also noted that "the countries that participated in the negotiations on the Iranian nuclear program should have a complete understanding of these restrictions."

“Su-30CM are classified as combat aircraft,” Toner said. “If media reports are correct, we will discuss this issue with Russia bilaterally, as well as with other members of the UN Security Council,” he said.

Earlier it was reported that the Iranian military is negotiating the possible purchase of Russian C-400 systems, Su-30CM fighters, Bastion complexes and other weapons.
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Vladislav Perminov / russianplanes.net
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  1. Malachite
    Malachite 19 February 2016 18: 00
    77
    Urgent need to sell means!
    Not only Russia can drive the devils in the Middle East, it is possible in the coalition Russia-Syria-Iran ... (Kurdistan))))
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 19 February 2016 18: 04
      114
      Quote: Malachite
      Urgent need to sell means!

      ... as the spare parts for the SU-27 that Iran has ... and, as the Iranians left the SU-30SM, we have no idea ... miracles, and only ... with mattresses, you need them methods ... smile and shrug ... laughing
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 19 February 2016 18: 06
        35
        State Department: Sale of Su-30CM fighter jets to Iran will violate UN resolution


        Go Russia! We are on the right track ...
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 19 February 2016 18: 13
          87
          State Department: Sale of Su-30CM fighter jets to Iran will violate UN resolution

          But I was tormented by vague suspicions, and would mattresses really ask permission of the UN Security Council, that I strongly doubt it. hi
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 19 February 2016 18: 36
            33
            Quote: vovanpain
            would mattresses really ask permission of the UN Security Council

            It is unlikely, and if asked, how, before the invasion of Iraq, one dive would shake a test tube or a piece of iron and say that Russia was to blame. repeat
            1. bve56
              bve56 19 February 2016 19: 00
              19
              But this is a VERY serious and weighty statement! In addition to the fact that the United States violates the UN agreements most of all, it also kills the population, destroying entire countries under false pretexts. Why has the UN still not raised questions about the extermination of civilians in Iraq and Libya? They were ready to bomb Syria, violating the UN charter!

              There is a wacky moment! More recently, Obama said it was unclear why Russia had delayed the supply of s-300 to Iran. And now the State Department even contradicts its president, referring to something there. And the UN is already violating its obligations. He has repeatedly said that the head of the UN should not be a secretary general of the pro-Western at all.

              Serge Babkov
              1. Pravdarm
                Pravdarm 19 February 2016 21: 05
                +3
                But about Iran at the end of 2015, Bagdasarov doubts friendship (the final question in an interview). He is a quick-witted man in matters of the Middle East. Foresaw a lot
                1. bve56
                  bve56 20 February 2016 13: 05
                  +1
                  Muslims are often kept apart, and the priority of religion is important to them. Hence the ISIS fanaticism. At the moment, of course, a good relationship, but really betting on it is not unreasonably reasonable in the future.

                  ps personally, our government is more upset about the example of Belarus. There are many tense moments that are unacceptable on our part. I was in Gomel a couple of years ago, we have no border with them (you pass without stopping). People are no different in general, the same Slavs as we are. Only of course it is very clean and good roads, but there are problems. A Russian person in general often cannot distinguish Belarus from Russian again. What else needs to be explained here ?!

                  Serge Babkov
              2. stavr550
                stavr550 19 February 2016 21: 07
                0
                The UN has outlived itself another more smarter and really necessary structure for people
                1. 2С5
                  2С5 20 February 2016 01: 29
                  0
                  ... created on the initiative and under the patronage of Russia ... there will be a squeal and saliva with snot! wink
                  1. bve56
                    bve56 20 February 2016 13: 16
                    +2
                    The UN is a necessary organization and it cannot be said that it has become obsolete. Another thing is that it is impossible for the Secretary General to be pro-Western or pro-Russian, and indeed not the Secretary General to solve issues in this organization, then an opinion can cost a lot. By the way, this is the principle of democracy.

                    But the main problem is different. America has long violated UN regulations, i.e. I wanted to spit on the whole world and on the concept of democracy in general, this is already a big problem, because America behaves like a real robber who understands only the "language of power", and this is more characteristic of animals than people.

                    Serge Babkov
              3. Blondy
                Blondy 19 February 2016 22: 10
                +3
                Well, for now, this statement can be regarded with a great desire only as an interference in the internal affairs of Iran. Since, as indicated here in VO, statements about the sale of the SU30SM were made to Iranian military leaders in modality of opportunity on Iranian television. It is quite possible that Iran has the intention to acquire them and somehow voiced this to Russia. But even about such scoring at the interstate level of official information, at least from the Russian side, it’s nowhere outlined.
          2. Lieutenant Izhe
            Lieutenant Izhe 19 February 2016 18: 50
            16
            But I was tormented by vague suspicions, and would mattresses really ask permission of the UN Security Council, that I strongly doubt it.

            your "vague doubts" are SO INFECTIOUS that ...
            they ALSO "torment" you not only! wassat
            Decide Iran to buy FY-35, then ...
            no matter how the Jews screeched at the same time ...
            everything would be done in the shortest possible time! wink
            1. Serg 122
              Serg 122 19 February 2016 19: 50
              +4
              “The Su-30SM are classified as military aircraft,” said Toner.

              Come on! It's good that it's not like Lego toys ... fool
            2. tol100v
              tol100v 19 February 2016 21: 40
              0
              Quote: Lieutenant Izhe
              Decide Iran to buy FY-35,

              Even only by deciding to buy their individual and exclusive helmets for Fak-35, all UN resolutions would be canceled as unnecessary!
        2. djqnbdjqnb
          djqnbdjqnb 19 February 2016 20: 44
          +5
          Quote: yuriy55
          State Department: Sale of Su-30CM fighter jets to Iran will violate UN resolution


          The Americans and NATO have continuously violated international law for several years in a row. They still operate illegally in Syria. "And these people forbid us to pick our noses ?!"

          And the fact that the "Su-30SM are classified as military aircraft" - it was he who directly opened his eyes to everyone. Straight breathtaking from such insight.
          1. Volzhanin
            Volzhanin 20 February 2016 08: 00
            +1
            We cannot be compared to star-striped animals. And then there will be no difference between us. We are a bright power. It’s not a good idea to dishonor yourself with the methods of criminals. If the law does not order, then it is not necessary yet.
            And then the S-300, as an "outdated" system, can probably be sold by "other countries." Or when there will already be an open confrontation. All Anglo-Saxon methods are primitive, have long been studied and easily calculated, so there is a threaded bolt for all their antics. There is no need to rush - let them show their deceitful vile essence even more and reveal themselves in their militaristic dance. Ameripedes already have nerves, mistake, after mistake - they do not have time to wash the feces.
      2. vitaz
        vitaz 19 February 2016 18: 17
        24
        They would say better where ISIS has Pingos weapons
        1. Altona
          Altona 19 February 2016 18: 37
          +3
          Quote: vitaz
          They would say better where ISIS has Pingos weapons

          -------------------------
          Shaking hands!
        2. gispanec
          gispanec 19 February 2016 18: 51
          -10 qualifying.
          Quote: vitaz
          They would say better where ISIS has Pingos weapons

          I'm wildly sorry, but ISIS has AKM ??? or RPG ??? ... put the question on a more specific ....
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 19 February 2016 19: 07
            +9
            Quote: gispanec
            I'm wildly sorry, but ISIS has AKM ??? or RPG ??? ... put the question on a more specific ....

            There is what?
            Such weapons remained in all countries of the former Warsaw Pact, which, moving to the NATO standard, have the opportunity to sell them in the required quantity.
            Yes, what dill alone are worth ?! They’re not like machine guns, they have already sold all of Ukraine ..
            1. gispanec
              gispanec 20 February 2016 08: 45
              -1
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              There is what?
              Such weapons remained in all countries of the former Warsaw Pact

              read carefully and without foam at the mouth ... is that even clear? ... quote is an accusation !!!
              Quote: vitaz
              They would say better where ISIS has Pingos weapons

              here from here is my answer ... after all, the presence of one or another weapon does not lie with the responsibility of the producer country ... or do you disagree ???
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 20 February 2016 10: 18
                +1
                Quote: gispanec
                read carefully and without foam at the mouth ... is this even clear? ... quote is an accusation!

                Hmm, where did you look at the foam? He replied that the bearded ones have weapons and indicated the alleged source of supply.
                Quote: gispanec
                . enter the presence of one or another weapon do not fall under the responsibility of the country of manufacture ... or do you disagree ???

                I agree, and who disputes this?
                Just do not confuse transparent deliveries under contracts and shady, which are aimed at organizing the kipesh. What do bearded people mostly run with? With AKM! Cheap and cheerful.
                A month ago, a ship was stopped in Italy in containers of which there were small arms and 450 rounds of ammunition in packages labeled furniture. "Furniture" was intended for refugee camps. Supplier-Turkey. Nobody can say how many "furniture" has already entered Europe, but it seems that this year the Europeans will start to be piled with "office chairs".
        3. bovig
          bovig 19 February 2016 19: 42
          +1
          Quote: vitaz
          They would say better where ISIS has Pingos weapons

          So, this ... Probably, the Saudis are supplying ... But the State Department has nothing to do with it ...))))) It's all in the framework of the UN resolution!))))
        4. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 19 February 2016 20: 05
          +1
          Quote: vitaz
          They would say better where ISIS has Pingos weapons

          They dishonestly captured when the Americans dropped their weapons not to them. yes Mischief-makers in general.
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      4. 26rus
        26rus 19 February 2016 18: 21
        +9
        Quote: Inok10
        Quote: Malachite
        Urgent need to sell means!

        ... as the spare parts for the SU-27 that Iran has ... and, as the Iranians left the SU-30SM, we have no idea ... miracles, and only ... with mattresses, you need them methods ... smile and shrug ... laughing

        Well, how, how? Just read the instructions to the end, it is also clearly written there - "after assembly, finalize with a file." And what happened - it happened ... wink
      5. mvg
        mvg 19 February 2016 19: 37
        +1
        and what, Iran has a Su-27? not confused with the F-35? forgive me my Vologda reprimand ..
      6. Finntroll
        Finntroll 19 February 2016 20: 07
        0
        So nobody finished canceling the file, oh, these Russian files winked
      7. figwam
        figwam 19 February 2016 20: 11
        +1
        as spare parts for SU-27 that Iran has

        The first time I hear about the SU-27 of Iran !!! ??? They do not have such aircraft in service.
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      9. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 19 February 2016 23: 59
        0
        We’ll figure out who to sell to. Let your wife learn how to cook b.
      10. viktor561
        viktor561 20 February 2016 01: 10
        0
        Severely and precisely - and better as they wanted - the UN did not forbid any production (assembly)
      11. Amurets
        Amurets 20 February 2016 01: 31
        0
        Quote: Inok10
        . as the spare parts for SU-27 that Iran has ... and, as the Iranians left them, the SU-30SM, we have no idea

        No miracles-file modified.
    2. St Petrov
      St Petrov 19 February 2016 18: 05
      31
      Omerika apparently does not know how to compete honestly. Sanctions, bans, etc.

      So the empire was blown away. On such trifles, this is clearly visible.

      The same sanctions. Constrain development. They understand that soon Russian barbarians in the market will let down the pussy to the nose

      1. APASUS
        APASUS 19 February 2016 18: 19
        +3
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        Omerika apparently does not know how to compete honestly. Sanctions, bans, etc.

        Where they cannot win in the open, they go in this way. The only thing is a pity, when we learn how to use the tool to the full
    3. Magic archer
      Magic archer 19 February 2016 18: 08
      12
      It will not work out urgently. They still need to be built. And the Americans will by all means impede the deal, as was the case with C-300. Plus, we will not forget that Israel also has weight in the UN Security Council, and it is not beneficial for Jews to have their opponents armament appeared modern fighters.
      By the way, the other day there was a program that talked about a likely deal in which Russia and Iran would take part. Its essence is that we are arming the Iranians, and they, in turn, help in the war with ISIS and do not completely ruin the price of oil
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 19 February 2016 18: 13
        +3
        Quote: Magic Archer
        And the Americans will by all means impede the deal, as was the case with the S-300.

        Let them hinder - that's their right. But times have changed, even if Medved, who refused to buy these complexes for Iran, declared a "cold war" to the West. So the staff will lick the stump.
        1. quote
          quote 19 February 2016 18: 21
          14
          Until you give the UN decision on all your actions, starting with Yugoslavia, go to w .. pu!
        2. jjj
          jjj 19 February 2016 18: 23
          +8
          If it is impossible to sell a new one, then it is possible to repair the old one, but in such a way that the desired new one is obtained at the output, but under the old designation. They took Su-27 in Iran - and for scrapping. Returned - Su-30, naming them in documents as Su-27 after capital
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 19 February 2016 18: 28
            0
            Quote: jjj
            They took a Su-27 in Iran - and for scrapping. Returned - Su-30

            The thing is that in Iran there is no SU-27
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 19 February 2016 18: 41
              +2
              Now Iran’s air fleet is extremely ancient and, in cases of a major war, will not withstand long military operations and if it can cope with its neighbors against the US Air Force, it has no chance.
              Iran is armed with American F-14 F-5 aircraft (and various proprietary models based on it) F-4 French MirageF1 Soviet / Russian MIG-29 SU-24 SU-25 (although they may all be transferred to Iraq) Chinese F-7 .
              In short, the zoo is still one.
              1. mvg
                mvg 19 February 2016 19: 48
                +1
                as usual ... burning ... wink better about "God's chosen", there I will fully support ...
                F-14, hardly fly anymore .. there are no spare parts there .. even cannibalism will not help .. F-5 is a cool front-line fighter .. better than 21 and 23 .. F-4 still fly .. Mirages are in question .. Su-'shki is only in dreams ... There, and so the overhaul life is several times less than that of eF'ok.
                Compared to neighbors ... To whom to compare? With the Saud, Qatar or the UAE? Everything is there as it should ... Will fit ... from Typhoons, Needles and Mirages
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 19 February 2016 19: 58
                  +1
                  Quote: mvg
                  F-14, hardly fly anymore ... F-4 are still flying .. Mirages are in question .. Su-'shki is only in dreams ...

                  Your knowledge is just scary lol Where, if not a secret, is such awareness?
                  Although above I gave the video F-14 and MirageF1 and SU fly.

                  Quote: mvg
                  Compared to neighbors ... To whom to compare? With the Saud, Qatar or the UAE? Everything is there as it should ... Will fit ... from Typhoons, Needles and Mirages

                  Yes, it was with them that they had already proved that their army, including the Air Force, could not cope even with the Hussites in Yemen, so I don’t think that it would behave otherwise when meeting with Iranian planes.
                  Not always superior technology is everything.
                2. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 20 February 2016 12: 30
                  +2
                  Quote: mvg
                  Su-'shki is only in dreams

                  Iranian SU-24

                  Iranian SU-25
                3. Bongo
                  Bongo 20 February 2016 13: 51
                  +4
                  Quote: mvg
                  Fe-14, it’s unlikely to fly .. netut there spare parts .. even cannibalism will not help.

                  It is not strange that they fly, which is confirmed by satellite images, but there are not many of them left, no more than a dozen. These aircraft can be observed at the airfield of Iskhafan and Meshkhabad. In Mashkhabad (pictured), they are undergoing repairs and regular rotation of these machines takes place near technical hangars.
                  Quote: mvg
                  Su-'shki is only in dreams ... There, and so the overhaul life is several times less than that of eF'ok.

                  Here you are again mistaken, Su-22, Su-24M and Su-25 "sit" at the Shiraz airfield, Mirage F1 at the Mashkhez airfield. All this is confirmed by the images of 2015.
      2. sir.jonn
        sir.jonn 19 February 2016 18: 43
        +4
        Quote: Magic Archer
        Israel also has weight in the UN Security Council

        Israel has absolutely no significance in the UN Security Council, either as a permanent representative or as a temporary one.
      3. Vita vko
        Vita vko 19 February 2016 19: 14
        +1
        Quote: Magic Archer
        it is advantageous for their opponents to have modern fighter armaments

        The main threat to Israel is the terrorists and those who support them. And what about Iran? Israel will definitely not claim on its territory. The military-political situation in the region changed and the Jews finally realized that if Syria, Iran and Russia could not cope with the IS terrorists and their accomplices, then they would have to do it alone. Israel probably would have long ago joined this alliance, but sponsors in Washington will not understand.
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 19 February 2016 20: 14
          -5
          Quote: Vita VKO
          And what about Iran?

          Doesn't Iran support terrorists?
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 19 February 2016 20: 19
            +5
            Quote: miru mir
            Doesn't Iran support terrorists?

            Again you mixed everything up.
            I explain - Israel supports terrorists and Iran, on the contrary, fights with terrorists fellow
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 19 February 2016 20: 22
              -9
              Come by, Mahmoud, today I’m not serving.
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 19 February 2016 20: 45
                +7
                Quote: miru mir
                Come by, Mahmoud, today I’m not serving.

                But what is it that moisha Jews like you generally serve someone?
                As far as I know they only take smile
          2. midivan
            midivan 19 February 2016 20: 31
            +4
            Quote: miru mir
            Doesn't Iran support terrorists?

            depending on who they consider to be US terrorists, they definitely do not support Isil, they hate it, the Sunnis are also not very happy because they do not share their religious views
          3. ultra
            ultra 19 February 2016 21: 20
            +2
            Quote: miru mir
            Doesn't Iran support terrorists?

            Hezbollah is not recognized as a terrorist organization in Russia.
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 19 February 2016 22: 25
              -4
              Your will. The group firing on peaceful cities is terrorist, regardless of Russia's opinion.
              1. nemez
                nemez 19 February 2016 22: 37
                +5
                the Jewish army attacked the peaceful settlements of Lebanon then who?
              2. fif21
                fif21 20 February 2016 04: 17
                +1
                Quote: miru mir
                The group firing on peaceful cities is terrorist, regardless of Russia's opinion.
                Here is a small list of "terrorists" Turkey-shelling the cities of Syria, the USA-shelling the cities of Vietnam, Libya, Iraq ... Israel-remind? And the opinion of Russia-ghouls you bloody am
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 20 February 2016 12: 01
                  0
                  This is your personal opinion and it is based not on information, but on stupid and deceitful propaganda. Well, your inability to think also affects.
                  1. ultra
                    ultra 20 February 2016 22: 53
                    -1
                    Quote: miru mir
                    it is not based on information

                    That is, Israel did not invade Lebanon? belay
                    1. miru mir
                      miru mir 20 February 2016 23: 07
                      0
                      In response to ... Just as Russia invaded Georgia, for example.
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          4. nemez
            nemez 19 February 2016 22: 36
            0
            which ones? hezbollah? !!! so they are positioning themselves as a party. yes, and who else attacked Lebanon? Is not it Israel?
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 19 February 2016 22: 41
              -5
              Proper names are capitalized.
              Israel attacked Lebanon ?! Did you read this in an alternative story?
              1. ultra
                ultra 20 February 2016 22: 53
                0
                Quote: miru mir
                Israel attacked Lebanon?

                Do you have doubts about this?
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 20 February 2016 23: 09
                  +2
                  Without any doubts. Israel always protects its citizens.
          5. Vita vko
            Vita vko 20 February 2016 02: 18
            0
            Quote: miru mir
            Iran does not support terrorists?

            I advise you to figure out where is the line beyond which the struggle for freedom, independence, "democratic values" becomes terrorism. Read the definition of terrorism on Wikipedia and wonder why there is still no legal term "terrorism" recognized by the UN international community. The problem is that a lot of governments and politicians "legal" from the point of view of the West and the United States, including the United States itself, will receive the legal status of terrorists. Although it would seem that it could be easier.
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 20 February 2016 12: 03
              -1
              Quote: Vita VKO
              I advise you to figure it out

              That's it! And having figured it out, you too recognize the little brother-in-arms of terrorists as terrorists.
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 20 February 2016 12: 09
                0
                Quote: miru mir
                And having figured it out, you too recognize the little brother-in-arms of terrorists as terrorists.

                Again, you confuse and misrepresent Hezbollah as Hamas fighters with Israeli tyranny fighting for the liberation of their land temporarily occupied by the Tel Aviv regime.
              2. Vita vko
                Vita vko 21 February 2016 13: 33
                0
                Quote: miru mir
                you also recognize the brother-in-law of the hezbalons

                Yes, easily, but only after you recognize the CIA and Mossad as terrorist organizations. Moreover, on their conscience, crimes against civilians and states are an order of magnitude, or maybe two orders of magnitude, more. And this is even if you do not take into account the former CIA agent Osama bin Laden.
          6. aleks 62 next
            aleks 62 next 20 February 2016 10: 42
            +1
            .... Doesn't Iran support terrorists? ...

            ... It depends on whom to consider terrorists .... Here Erdogan considers the Kurds to be terrorists, but the Americans do not .... For example .... Everything is subjective .... lol
    4. sgazeev
      sgazeev 19 February 2016 18: 27
      10
      Quote: Malachite
      Urgent need to sell means!
      Not only Russia can drive the devils in the Middle East, it is possible in the coalition Russia-Syria-Iran ... (Kurdistan))))
    5. Petr1
      Petr1 19 February 2016 18: 31
      +4
      They only want to sell it themselves, but what about yao in Europe, which speaks for this account of the UN?
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 19 February 2016 19: 20
      +1
      But you can breathe and think without the permission of the State Department?
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      2. fif21
        fif21 20 February 2016 04: 25
        0
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        But you can breathe and think without the permission of the State Department?
        Necessary! laughing You cannot sell directly, we will sell through the country "Papuania" in which they do not even know about the UN laughing A problem that can be solved with money is not a problem!
    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 19 February 2016 19: 21
      +5
      At one time, we followed the lead of the "world progressive community" and did not supply S-300 to Iran, almost ran into huge penalties, quarreled with the Persians, and then Obama said that this was our own business and no one asked us about it ... Shall we follow the same rake? Or will we finally act as beneficial to Russia?
    8. vitaliy.rnd
      vitaliy.rnd 19 February 2016 19: 40
      0
      If Russia properly equips, first of all with defense systems, Syria, Iran ... (Kurdistan)))), then there will not be anyone to drive there. repeat
    9. 222222
      222222 19 February 2016 20: 16
      +1
      The highly maneuverable multi-purpose fighter of the 4 ++ generation Su-30SM is called one of the most successful projects in the domestic aircraft industry in recent years. Designed for a wide range of combat missions, which are based on the destruction of air and ground targets, it is also able to control the group actions of aviation, conduct reconnaissance, and operate over the sea.

      At the same time, the aircraft was able to stay longer in the air: its range and duration were increased. According to experts, the Russian fighter is superior to the latest F-22 Raptor fighter in its combat and aerobatic qualities, and this is a machine that is ranked among the aircraft of the next, fifth generation.
      http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201509200826-d3b6.htm
    10. rpek32
      rpek32 19 February 2016 20: 31
      +3
      “Su-30SM are classified as military aircraft”,


      yes as you say. screw the sprinklers with such a mother and you're done laughing

      but seriously ... I want to ask these deer: and who you, Dear, called to Syria? UN Security Council?
    11. WAP Master
      WAP Master 20 February 2016 13: 31
      0
      “The Su-30SM are classified as military aircraft,” said Toner.
      Pancake!!! Yes, he is clever in places)))))))))))))))) Managed to understand that this is a combat unit)))))))
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 February 2016 18: 00
    11
    Well, what to do, break. Especially the fact that they bought airplanes from us. I understand, it's a shame. But there was no need to impose sanctions.
  3. Nord2015
    Nord2015 19 February 2016 18: 01
    17
    Is the story repeated with the S-300?
    “Su-30SM are classified as military aircraft.” Toner has a deep thought.
    1. maxim1987
      maxim1987 19 February 2016 18: 09
      14
      Well, okay. Call Xren-30cm and push wassat
      1. Mikado
        Mikado 19 February 2016 18: 19
        +2
        Quote: maximNNX
        Well, okay. Call Xren-30cm and push wassat

        and to whom, and in what place, excuse me, do you want to push the horseradish-30cm ?? good
    2. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 19 February 2016 18: 33
      0
      Quote: Nord2015
      Toner has a deep thought.

      How can there be thoughts, and even deep ones, from an official representative of the State Department? request Here is Maria Zakharova, so she masterly cuts the truth, the womb, and even in line with the official policy of the country ... And there? So ... talking mouths ... winked
    3. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 19 February 2016 20: 39
      +1
      Quote: Nord2015
      Toner has a deep thought.

      At work, the toner in the printer ran out, the drawings could not be printed, and he did it.
    4. nemez
      nemez 19 February 2016 22: 39
      0
      and we will supply them without ammunition, then they will be considered training)))
  4. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 19 February 2016 18: 02
    +3
    Whose cow mumbled? Foam mattresses.
  5. square
    square 19 February 2016 18: 04
    10
    And what about the UN charter itself when was it last observed? When was Libya bombed or started an operation in Syria?
    1. X Y Z
      X Y Z 19 February 2016 18: 06
      14
      They are not readers, they are writers.
  6. fzr1000
    fzr1000 19 February 2016 18: 04
    +6
    "Selling to hell without waiting for resolutions .."
  7. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 19 February 2016 18: 05
    +1
    Well, we will postpone the sale of Su-30SM fighters, in exchange for S-400 systems, Bastion systems and other weapons. Have you agreed?
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 February 2016 18: 09
      +5
      Formally, he is right. Russia itself voted in the UN about imposing sanctions on Iran in the sphere of supplying offensive weapons to it, which include airplanes, tanks, various rockets, ships.
      Now we can supply to Iran only air defense systems for EW radar vehicles and transport aircraft.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 19 February 2016 18: 15
        17
        By the way, we deceived Iran two times for the first time under Yeltsin when we did not fulfill the contract and instead of 1000 T-72 tanks we supplied Iran only about 400 out of 1500 BMP-2, also about 400 out of 6 Varshavyanka-class submarines, only 3 although Iran wanted to buy up to 6 pieces and then the Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement was concluded according to which all military supplies to Iran were interrupted.
        Then Medvedev tried to stop supplying S-300 to Iran with no UN ban.
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 19 February 2016 18: 24
          +6
          Yeah, ugly somehow it turns out. With Iran.
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 19 February 2016 18: 30
            +4
            Quote: DenZ
            Yeah, ugly somehow it turns out. With Iran.

            It is necessary to correct ... Already under Putin ... It is possible more than once and in appropriate volumes ... winked To evil "partners" repeat
        2. fif21
          fif21 20 February 2016 04: 44
          0
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Then Medvedev tried to stop supplying S-300 to Iran with no UN ban.
          The mattress covers of friendship with Russia were not appreciated. How easy it was for them to establish "democracy" in Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq with the help of bombs. We moved NATO to the east, the Baltics, Georgia, Ukraine against Russia, let's set them on, they imposed sanctions and think that it will be as before wassat WILL NOT BE. hi
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  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 February 2016 18: 06
    +7
    The hegemon is not appeased! So what about its "omnipresence"? Each barrel has a gag. His interests are everywhere. Irritating.
  9. Dimontius
    Dimontius 19 February 2016 18: 07
    10
    yes, yes ... the UN Security Council also adopted one resolution, it seems, regarding Libya. and nothing, they did not give a damn with success. we have suffered, now it's your turn.
  10. 71rus
    71rus 19 February 2016 18: 08
    +3
    State Department: Sale of Su-30CM fighter jets to Iran will violate UN resolution

    How long will we listen to the "global" policeman? I don't give a damn about their opinion and the resolutions of the UN Security Council, we must do what is beneficial to the economy and politics of Great Russia!
  11. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 19 February 2016 18: 09
    +1
    You can’t sell, rent out. You can somehow get out.
    1. frekenbok
      frekenbok 19 February 2016 20: 59
      0
      aha, we will organize a "clear skies" fighter rental company. and voila, everything is legal and profitable
  12. izya top
    izya top 19 February 2016 18: 09
    +1
    why are you so screaming then? your sanctions, you don’t sell. and what does the United Nations tuk to the commercial deal request
  13. 4ekist
    4ekist 19 February 2016 18: 12
    +4
    It is necessary to do what is beneficial to our country.
  14. KnightRider
    KnightRider 19 February 2016 18: 13
    +1
    The expected response. In general, Iran will not see the Su-30 as its ears in the next four years, unless you go to tricks and deceit
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 February 2016 18: 18
      +1
      Quote: KnightRider
      In general, Iran will not see the Su-30 as its ears in the next four years, unless you go to tricks and deceit

      The only way is to arrange the release of aircraft in Iran itself with the help of our country or China.
  15. alex-cn
    alex-cn 19 February 2016 18: 16
    +3
    It seems that we have Sukhoi, and so it sits under sanctions. But it sells equipment, and not bad ... Well, something else will be added ... Some other import will have to be replaced, which is also useful for the defense industry.
    Or even sell it to the Chinese, without stipulating a refusal to resell to third countries, then they generally have side sanctions ...
  16. efeer
    efeer 19 February 2016 18: 17
    +5
    “Su-30SM are classified as military aircraft”

    Remove weapons and sell separately, like training.
  17. From Samara
    From Samara 19 February 2016 18: 18
    +3
    Must sell! Su-30SM will help Iran win the war with Saudi Arabia!
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 19 February 2016 23: 01
      0
      Quote: From Samara
      Must sell! Su-30SM will help Iran win the war with Saudi Arabia!

      When did the war begin?
      1. fif21
        fif21 20 February 2016 04: 56
        0
        Quote: samoletil18
        When did the war begin?

        Turkey said yesterday that it would invade the northern regions of Syria, this is a declaration of war! The Saudis have already transferred planes and tanks to Turkey, the Monkey somehow languidly urges Turkey not to do this. In the UN Security Council, France and the United States blocked Russia's resolution on Turkey, that is, they encouraged the aggressor! Do you think Iran will stay away?
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  18. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 19 February 2016 18: 24
    +4
    How to supply ISIS fighters with weapons, you do not need a UN resolution Yankees, but you spit on the entire UN from a high bell tower, and as soon as Russia was going to help the country with weapons that is fighting ISIS, you immediately screamed at different voices about the violation of resolutions. And do not you guys go with their resolutions somewhere deeper, for example, all of you beloved ass to your Negro.
  19. novobranets
    novobranets 19 February 2016 18: 30
    +4
    ... such a deal requires a separate permit from the Security Council, said State Department spokesman Mark Toner.
    Arrogant faces. They themselves ask who when they sell weapons to deliberate scumbags. Hoopoes.
  20. Hauptam
    Hauptam 19 February 2016 18: 30
    +2
    Sell ​​urgently !!! This is who HE is an American henchman, both accepted and will cancel his resolution.
  21. viktor.
    viktor. 19 February 2016 18: 34
    +3
    Well, if the State Department is against it, it’s definitely necessary. laughing
  22. Texnolog
    Texnolog 19 February 2016 18: 34
    +1
    Not so simple from 12 minutes
    1. ultra
      ultra 19 February 2016 21: 21
      +1
      This is the same expert as me Giselle. hi
  23. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 19 February 2016 18: 36
    +6
    Russia should discuss the sale of Russian aircraft to Iran with the United States ?! Here it is !!! And won't the US crack? They do not discuss their weapons deals with us! And it is high time for us to forget about our "temporary weakness" when we agreed to "American initiatives" and "joined their sanctions against the unwanted." It is necessary to clearly and unequivocally state: "USA, go to f ... ooo!". Rough, harsh, but understandable and from the bottom of my heart!
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 February 2016 18: 45
      +1
      Quote: Aandrewsir
      Russia should discuss the sale of Russian aircraft to Iran with the United States ?!

      The fact is that Russia itself, that is, voluntarily signed the UN resolution on the ban on the supply of offensive weapons to Iran.
      And now she has nothing left to do but observe it.
      1. nemez
        nemez 19 February 2016 22: 42
        0
        they mean they can not comply, but should we? yes x *** im salty
  24. Foxmara
    Foxmara 19 February 2016 18: 42
    +2
    I suggest. We give them drying, and they give us oil tankers. All within the framework of the UN decision. No sale. And they will rest - to remind about the UN mandate in Syria.
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  26. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 19 February 2016 18: 46
    +1
    As soon as the United States begins to agree with us all of its military contracts, we will then consider whether to coordinate with them our supply of weapons.
  27. BOB044
    BOB044 19 February 2016 18: 49
    +1
    State Department: Sale of Su-30CM fighter jets to Iran will violate UN resolution
    And if you buy the F-16, it will not be a violation. So yes.
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 19 February 2016 18: 54
      0
      Quote: BOB044
      And if you buy the F-16, it will not be a violation. So yes.

      where about this info?
  28. atamankko
    atamankko 19 February 2016 18: 50
    +1
    What is beneficial to our country, that is the priority, and if you dictate, we will send in "sanctions".
  29. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 19 February 2016 18: 51
    0
    And what I didn’t understand, stupidly, And why did YOU EXPLETE SO ?? not so long ago a class of Mummies of type SU30-SM - they called the word [b] guano [/ b, so what's the matter, gentlemen? - to the barrier. Gentlemen, to the barrier !!!
  30. Leprekon
    Leprekon 19 February 2016 18: 53
    0
    In thought, do not immediately smoke
    “The Su-30SM are classified as military aircraft,” said Toner.
    That is, in the opinion of the State Department, weapons should only be training? Type of donut hole.
  31. vell.65
    vell.65 19 February 2016 18: 56
    +1
    "Without prior approval" by whom? That is, without Washington's approval, it will look too seditious, or later they want to impose something of their own, if suddenly, after another such refusal from Russia, the parties again quarrel. on some kind of agreement, as has happened more than once.
  32. veksha50
    veksha50 19 February 2016 19: 00
    +2
    "“The countries participating in the negotiations on Iran’s nuclear program should have a full understanding of these limitations”"...

    Hmm ... Here, almost yesterday or the day before yesterday, our representative at the UN (not Churkin, forgot his name) loudly listed the list of violations of the UN Charter and UN Security Council resolutions by the United States related to the conduct of hostilities and the supply of weapons ... And this list is huge ...

    Maybe, at least in the matter with Iran and Russia it is worth showing decisiveness and perseverance ???
    We need such an ally in the Middle East - we need ...
  33. Don36
    Don36 19 February 2016 19: 03
    +1
    The sanctions against Russia are still imposed and removed, for the foreseeable future, are not going to. So Russia needs to spit more on the Yankees, and if Russia is profitable to trade in weapons, then you need to trade them, without regard to the Yankees.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 19 February 2016 23: 07
      0
      Quote: Don36
      The sanctions against Russia are still imposed and removed, for the foreseeable future, are not going to. So Russia needs to spit more on the Yankees, and if Russia is profitable to trade in weapons, then you need to trade them, without regard to the Yankees.

      You tell the managers with Rosoboronexport. If they are brought under sanctions, then business trips will be covered. And they need it in FIG.
  34. pavel12345
    pavel12345 19 February 2016 19: 04
    +1
    UN stupid is already sick of these resolutions, it is necessary to disperse all these talkers.
  35. Malachite
    Malachite 19 February 2016 19: 04
    +5
    Iran supported us in the Second World War (deliveries for troops went through them)
    Now in a difficult period for Russia, they again support us!
    An interesting satellite image, as stated on November 25th. It depicts the Su-34 Russian Air Force on the Iranian Air Force TAB-3 to the north of Hamadan in western Iran. Actually, he confirms the long-held assumptions that it was this Iranian air base that is the main intermediate point on the route of aircraft being transferred from Russia to Syria, on which, if necessary, refueling can be carried out, etc.

    Iran will not betray and they need to deliver modern weapons urgently (otherwise the USA and Israel) Well, everyone understands ..
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 February 2016 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: Malachite
      Now in a difficult period for Russia, they again support us!

      In particular, our TU-160 and TU-22 bombers fly to bomb terrorists through Iran, our calibers fly to Syria also through Iran, and for example, Syrian President Assad flew to Moscow also through Iran, not to mention the fact that Iran is fighting with us in Syria on side of her people and government. And we can’t even deliver him the S-300.
      1. Malachite
        Malachite 19 February 2016 19: 33
        +1
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Quote: Malachite
        Now in a difficult period for Russia, they again support us!

        In particular, our TU-160 and TU-22 bombers fly to bomb terrorists through Iran, our calibers fly to Syria also through Iran, and for example, Syrian President Assad flew to Moscow also through Iran, not to mention the fact that Iran is fighting with us in Syria on side of her people and government. And we can’t even deliver him the S-300.

        Chubais, valtsmany hold Russia by the throat ...
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 19 February 2016 19: 36
          +3
          Quote: Malachite
          Ubysses, valtsmany hold Russia by the throat ...

          Undoubtedly, their connection with the United States and Israel is simply "terrifying" if it were not for them that a superpower called the USSR would have firmly stood on its feet and no one would have been able to contradict it.
  36. igorek4515
    igorek4515 19 February 2016 19: 09
    +2
    In fact, the UN, like the UN Security Council, has long compromised themselves so much by their resolutions .. So, to condemn someone or to demand something from someone is at least at the wrong address .. In general, all international law, the so-called in the present world, has long been replaced strong ..
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 February 2016 19: 16
      0
      Quote: igorek4515
      Actually, the UN and the UN Security Council have long since compromised themselves so much by their resolutions ..

      Here again, everything rests on the fact that we signed the UN resolution prohibiting the supply of offensive weapons to Iran.
      And if we supply arms to Iran, it turns out that we (Russia) do not keep our word and do not comply with the documents we signed.
  37. aba
    aba 19 February 2016 19: 25
    0
    Ha! if the Iranians would turn directly to the Americans, I’m sure that it would not contradict anything and would not discuss anything in the UN Security Council.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 February 2016 19: 33
      0
      Quote: aba
      Ha! if the Iranians would turn directly to the Americans, I’m sure that it would not contradict anything and would not discuss anything in the UN Security Council.

      It is possible that it would be so a little outraged and then Iran would receive planes from the United States.
  38. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 19 February 2016 19: 44
    0
    State Department: Sale of Su-30CM fighter jets to Iran will violate UN resolution
    Let the State Department not be very worried, otherwise the traces of anxiety can be washed, but the smell will remain ...
  39. Yury rus
    Yury rus 19 February 2016 19: 46
    +1
    S-300 systems and fighter jets are means of state protection. UN organization for the issuance of quotas for the protection of the state? This is possible and this is not! Nonsense.
  40. igorek4515
    igorek4515 19 February 2016 19: 53
    +1
    Here again, everything rests on the fact that we signed the UN resolution prohibiting the supply of offensive weapons to Iran.
    And if we supply arms to Iran, it turns out that we (Russia) do not keep our word and do not comply with the documents we signed.

    UN Security Council resolutions as far as I know are of a RECOMMENDED nature. and each country has the right to decide for itself to support i.e. to execute them or not .. Of course, the "international community" in this case will condemn, "but apart from its" indignation "and condemnation," in fact, it cannot "punish" in any way .. especially the country of a permanent member of the UN Security Council with a veto right ..
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  41. igorek4515
    igorek4515 19 February 2016 19: 55
    +1
    UN organization for the issuance of quotas for the protection of the state? This is possible and this is not! Nonsense.

    And in general you are right .. even in the UN Charter, by the way, the main document of international law which ALL UN member countries must comply with is written ".. every country has the right to the necessary self-defense .."
  42. Malachite
    Malachite 19 February 2016 20: 04
    +8
    Putin, together with Assad, misled all the "Ramses" to the West ... And this is just the beginning, gentlemen! You made us all angry in Russia and Syria!
  43. Flat5160
    Flat5160 19 February 2016 20: 16
    0
    If not, then it is possible. It’s just that we have to work for ours at the UN. Our representative V. Churkin can a much-experienced diplomat!
    1. Malachite
      Malachite 19 February 2016 20: 28
      +1
      Quote: Plat5160
      If not, then it is possible. It’s just that we have to work for ours at the UN. Our representative V. Churkin can a much-experienced diplomat!

      I doubt very much ... He has long been an organization (a branch of NATO and their vassals) political!
      Churkin (with Lavrov), realizing all this, just swears them all there (he can’t stand it and bring a machine gun to the assembly.)))))
  44. igorek4515
    igorek4515 19 February 2016 20: 20
    +1
    If I am not mistaken, the resolutions of the UN General Assembly and the resolutions of the UN Security Council are MANDATORY.
    Or not?

    I will not argue, because I am not strong in international law. But I know for sure that UN Security Council resolutions should not contradict the FUNDAMENTAL documents of international law such as the UN Charter and various international treaties governing this or that activity of states in various significant areas of human activity. such as the right of states to self-defense and the right to use atomic energy for peaceful purposes without any discrimination and this is a very important point that very often becomes the subject of debate in the same UN Security Council .. Here's how so ..
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 February 2016 20: 48
      0
      Quote: igorek4515
      I will not argue, because I am not strong in international law. But I know for sure that UN Security Council resolutions should not contradict the FUNDAMENTAL documents of international law such as the UN Charter and various international treaties governing this or that state’s activity

      I also have not been interested in how UN resolutions are adopted and how they are implemented.
      If you suddenly fall into the account of this information discard me.
  45. midivan
    midivan 19 February 2016 20: 26
    +4
    this issue needs to be approached very carefully and cautiously, in short, to declare that our VKS base will be in Iran and no one will sell anything to anyone, training Iran’s pilots and technicians for two years, and then for lack of budget since Obama get to shreds from there, and the planes are already outdated and there is no sense in taking out smile
  46. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 19 February 2016 20: 45
    +1
    Su-30SM are classified as military aircraft

    Yes, it’s somehow clear that it’s not like horse-drawn transport. Only the actions of the mattress do not violate anything as usual
  47. Malachite
    Malachite 19 February 2016 20: 49
    +2
    Quote: midivan
    this issue needs to be approached very carefully and cautiously, in short, to declare that our VKS base will be in Iran and no one will sell anything to anyone, training Iran’s pilots and technicians for two years, and then for lack of budget since Obama get to shreds from there, and the planes are already outdated and there is no sense in taking out smile

    Iran-Russia, a powerful clutch will be in the Middle East! And we do not recommend fighting against us ... (China also does not mind ..)
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 19 February 2016 21: 07
      +1
      Quote: Malachite
      Iran-Russia, a powerful clutch will be in the Middle East! And we do not recommend fighting against us ... (China also does not mind ..)

    2. midivan
      midivan 19 February 2016 21: 59
      +2
      Quote: Malachite
      Iran-Russia, a powerful clutch will be in the Middle East! And we do not recommend fighting against us ... (China also does not mind ..)

      and Iraq? it’s also not worth writing off there, Erdogan would have pinched his tail and there’s a way out for him and there is someone to go too, but the guys there aren’t done with a finger smile that would be am.era ah..eli laughing
  48. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 19 February 2016 21: 29
    +2
    I'm sorry, what?! So when the West needs it, they don’t have any UN resolutions, and when it comes to Russia and the compartment with dreams and about Iran, a screech begins, two-faced creatures ....
  49. Prisoner
    Prisoner 19 February 2016 21: 53
    +1
    UN is no stranger. Few put on its resolution with bust? They’ll rub off, nothing.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 20 February 2016 02: 08
      +1
      Right. Not only my opinion. So much dirt has already been poured on Russia that there is nothing to lose. As they say, either pan or disappeared. Lie down already at all. Whoever needs it will understand who does not need it, and yes x. with them.
  50. barsik92090
    barsik92090 19 February 2016 21: 56
    0
    Quote: yuriy55

    Hollywood dreamers prone to fornication.