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Analyst: focusing on the Baltic NATO “missed” the Black Sea

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NATO, focusing on the "rescue" of the Allies in the Baltic States, has overlooked the strengthening of Russia on the Black Sea, according to an article by US Atlantic Council official Robbie Greimer, published in the journal Foreign Affairs. Article leads RIA News.


Analyst: focusing on the Baltic NATO “missed” the Black Sea
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“After the annexation of the Crimea, Moscow placed heavy military equipment, fighters, bombers and advanced air defense systems on the peninsula,” the author writes. “This arms build-up hinders the activities of NATO and allies in the region and makes it impossible to collect intelligence from the air.”

In addition, the Russians are investing heavily in the modernization of the Black Sea fleet. “Moscow has already begun to evaluate its position in the Mediterranean, sending warships and auxiliary cargo ships from the Black Sea there to conduct high-level exercises and to support its campaign in Syria,” says Greimer.

“Launches of Russian missiles from the Caspian Sea, from submarines in the Mediterranean Sea and long-range aircraft aviation also showed that the Mediterranean region is within the reach of Russia, ”the article says.

According to the analyst, "on the Black Sea, NATO has already moved into a defensive position, and the same thing can happen in the Mediterranean Sea."

“Nevertheless, the alliance still has the opportunity to increase its presence in the region and hold back Russia,” the author believes. “For this, NATO will need an“ air police ”modeled after the one that patrols the skies over the Baltic states, as well as the constant naval presence of military ships with the Aegis missile system.”
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  1. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 10 February 2016 09: 30 New
    41
    These ferrets miss nothing. They have all the moves planned ahead. But for every cunning NATO ferret we have non-linear Russian thinking :), which each time leads them into a dead end and allows us to live further free and not on our knees.
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 10 February 2016 09: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      These ferrets miss nothing. They have all the moves planned ahead.

      The office writes! laughing
      (O. Bender, "The Twelve Chairs")

      PS: "Morning mood"!
      1. cniza
        cniza 10 February 2016 09: 37 New
        +6
        They will never understand us and will not be able to calculate our steps and answers ...
        1. WKS
          WKS 10 February 2016 09: 50 New
          11
          Everyone is "at war" and "at war", and as soon as they announce that Russian tanks are going through Georgia, they immediately pile into their pants in full.
        2. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 10 February 2016 10: 12 New
          +4
          in the Black Sea, NATO has already moved into a defensive position,
          - Well, we need to start somewhere. And then continue!
        3. NIKNN
          NIKNN 10 February 2016 13: 12 New
          +6
          He entered the battlefield Terminator terrible, stunning pump action gun. But
          Russian hackers reflash BIOS to a piece of iron inflated and set a skin
          Electronics.
          Junior Bush tried to stupefy us with brainless speeches, deprived of brains
          reasoning dull. But Chernomyrdin took the word and realized that Bush
          he son.
          They tried Madeleine Albright to release us, so that we were afraid
          horror thick, nonsense bearing. But went out to meet Valeria Novodvorskaya,
          and the Americans knew that there is a thick horror and how the nonsense looks
      2. Blondy
        Blondy 10 February 2016 10: 05 New
        +3
        Oh these analysts
        focusing on the Baltic states NATO "missed" the Black Sea
        .
        In my opinion, everything is much simpler: "I didn't shmogla."
      3. madjik
        madjik 10 February 2016 12: 03 New
        0
        so more clearly ... laughing
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 10 February 2016 09: 34 New
      +9
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      These ferrets miss nothing. They have all the moves planned ahead. But for every cunning NATO ferret we have non-linear Russian thinking :)


      Crimea is a prime example laughing

      even a puppy patrol will add to each ajis in his own Khibin of the air police ... from it you’re more like looking at the cartoons. (what should I do advanced dad laughing )
    3. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 10 February 2016 09: 35 New
      +6
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      These ferrets miss nothing.

      Yeah. Crimea, NATO did not miss, but frankly prosrali.
      1. Dembel77
        Dembel77 10 February 2016 09: 47 New
        15
        Nevertheless, the alliance still has the opportunity to increase its presence in the region and restrain Russia
        They were late, gentlemen - Russia can no longer be held! Russia went free swimming!
        1. Urals
          Urals 10 February 2016 09: 53 New
          +9
          One CRIMEA is worth it! For this, only Putin will be remembered with kind words in Russia and his teeth gritted in the west ... I hope the same will happen in Syria and the Middle East!
          1. Avtopilot
            Avtopilot 10 February 2016 10: 39 New
            -15 qualifying.
            One Crimea is worth it! For this, only Putin will be remembered with a kind word in Russia

            To take away the Crimea \ attach \ return at that time it was about the same as the child’s toy in the sandbox was taken away.
            1. Urals
              Urals 10 February 2016 11: 28 New
              +5
              Quote: Avtopilot
              One Crimea is worth it! For this, only Putin will be remembered with a kind word in Russia

              To take away the Crimea \ attach \ return at that time it was about the same as the child’s toy in the sandbox was taken away.

              Well ... Crimea was literally crammed with military units of Ukraine (they were waiting for the Americans)))) Maybe they took them for us! Brilliant operation ..! Now you are in peace in the Donbass break away from anger ...
              1. Avtopilot
                Avtopilot 10 February 2016 13: 51 New
                -3
                What is brilliant about her? Militarily? Politically, I agree, they did not allow the massacre in the Crimea. By the war in the Donbass, Russia diverts the attention of the collective West from the Crimea.

                “We are not going to fight with Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. I want to be understood unambiguously. If we make such a decision, then only to protect Ukrainian citizens. And let someone from among the servicemen try to shoot at their people, behind whom we will stand behind. Not in front, but in the back. Let them try to shoot women and children. I will look at those who give such an order in Ukraine ”
                1. evge-malyshev
                  evge-malyshev 10 February 2016 14: 37 New
                  -2
                  Quote: Avtopilot
                  "We are not going to fight with Ukraine and the Ukrainian people. I want to be understood unambiguously. If we make such a decision, it will only be for the protection of Ukrainian citizens. And let someone from among the servicemen try to shoot at their people, after whom we we will stand behind. Not in front, but behind. Let them try to shoot women and children. I will look at those who give such an order in Ukraine "


                  What is this nonsense? We will make this decision ... Who are "we"? ... we will stand behind ... Who are "we" and why will you stand behind? Let them try to shoot women and children. Who should try to shoot women and children?

                  Is the autopilot unbalanced in all planes?
                  1. Avtopilot
                    Avtopilot 10 February 2016 14: 58 New
                    +1
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BZC38Qwfb0
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 10 February 2016 14: 54 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Avtopilot
                  What is brilliant about her? Militarily?


                  I’ll explain ... the Black Sea Fleet group at that time numbered about 12000 people ...

                  and now you ... answer for what period of time Russia has increased its contingent to 20 thousand, and so no intelligence has suspected anything ... plus the number of Ukrainian Armed Forces in Crimea at that time totaled about 25 in my opinion ( I don’t take into account that period of paratroopers from Dnepropetrovsk) how can I force such a group to lay down arms without a single shot?

                  I know the answers since I spent the whole 14 years there practically with my mother-in-law .. and I was in my native Perevalnoye and in Sevastopol in 810 ...
                  1. Avtopilot
                    Avtopilot 10 February 2016 15: 15 New
                    -3
                    answer for what period of time Russia has increased the contingent to 20 thousand

                    We drove ourselves and rode in columns and helicopters flew, everything is on the video.

                    and so not a single intelligence suspected anything

                    they allegedly didn’t suspect this in the Russian TV. They said foreign intelligence did not sprinkle ash on their heads, did not ask for resignation, etc.

                    how can such a grouping be forced to lay down arms without a single shot?
                    pro-Russian region + from the juntics of the order was not to resist.
                    Ask yourself if something similar happens again, with the current status quo.
                    1. Avtopilot
                      Avtopilot 10 February 2016 15: 31 New
                      -1
                      and in his native Perevalny was in Sevastopol in 810 ...


                      yesterday they google it so that you need to get 35000 rubles for flights from Belgorod to Simferopol with your family from Kharkov or lay out for 20 hours by train
                    2. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 10 February 2016 16: 23 New
                      0
                      Quote: Avtopilot
                      foreign intelligence did not sprinkle ash on their heads, did not ask for resignation, etc.

                      Well, yes, and they were also happy. It’s not customary to display your failures, if you can shut up.
                      1. Avtopilot
                        Avtopilot 10 February 2016 17: 01 New
                        -2
                        in this particular case, the alleged "failure" was highlighted by the pro-Kremlin media, for PR, but even before the Crimea left, an article by Valentina Samar was published in the Zerkalo Nedeli newspaper with a headline like "Russia is preparing to take Crimea away", I did not read it, I thought, why the aunt is delusional that she understands at all.
                        It is doubtful that the aunts knew and the intelligence was not in the know at all.
                      2. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 10 February 2016 17: 52 New
                        0
                        Quote: Avtopilot
                        It is doubtful that the aunts knew and the intelligence was not in the know at all.

                        And this is the essence of disinformation, so that those from whom they hide from do not know. I would be surprised if the "aunts" were not part of the smoke screen.
                      3. Avtopilot
                        Avtopilot 10 February 2016 18: 01 New
                        -1
                        this aunt is tearing down http://gazeta.zn.ua/authors/valentina__samar
                        wrote in "Mirror of the Week", the mouthpiece of Euro-Atlantic propaganda, for a long time and a lot.
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        2. nicolay338
          nicolay338 10 February 2016 11: 36 New
          +2
          Well prosrali something you know it)))
        3. AID.S
          AID.S 10 February 2016 11: 54 New
          +2
          Quote: Avtopilot

          To take away the Crimea \ attach \ return at that time it was about the same as the child’s toy in the sandbox was taken away.

          At the "oni-children"?
        4. Tersky
          Tersky 10 February 2016 12: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: Avtopilot
          To take away the Crimea \ attach \ return at that time it was about the same as the child’s toy in the sandbox was taken away.

          Judging by how you and others like you feel about your country, which, when you left the USSR, was second in all positions after the RSFSR, had the second largest and most equipped army in Europe, so your mind was also taken away, disconnected, robbed. That's just who - guess three times. Putin and Surkov do not count ...
          1. Avtopilot
            Avtopilot 10 February 2016 13: 46 New
            -6
            Is it true that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation has invested half of Russia's budget in US government bonds? and recently added?
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 10 February 2016 14: 29 New
              +3
              Quote: Avtopilot
              Is it true that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation has invested half of Russia's budget in US government bonds? and recently added?


              You will be surprised .. (I looked into your profile and went nuts ... there is a modest European abbreviation UA ​​and where is proud Ukraine?)

              http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/65527
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 10 February 2016 14: 31 New
                +2
                Russia has reduced investments in US government bonds for the second consecutive month: in October by $ 7,1 billion to $ 82 billion after a decrease of $ 800 million in September, according to the US Treasury. In general, foreign investors sold US government securities in October for a record amount of $ 55,2 billion.



                US Treasury table.
                For comparison: a year earlier in December, Russia owned $ 86,0 billion in US government bonds, and $ 2015 billion in January 82,2.

                The maximum amount of Russian investments in US government securities over the past year was reached in October 2014 - $ 108,9 billion.

                This year, the maximum amount of Russian investments in US government bonds was recorded in August ($ 89,9 billion), the minimum - in April ($ 66,5 billion).

                Russia ranks 15th among countries in the amount of investments in US bonds. Germany ranks 16th after Russia, which cut investments by $ 1,8 billion in October.

                The first places in the amount of investments in US government securities are held by China, Japan (over $ 1,1 trillion), Brazil ($ 255 billion).

                China and Japan also sold US bonds in October - $ 3,2 and $ 27,9 billion, Brazil bought $ 3,4 billion.

                After foreign investments in US government bonds grew by $ 17,4 billion in September, net Treasury sales reached $ 55,2 billion in October, exceeding the previous sales record of $ 55,0 billion in January. The total amount of foreign investments in October by major holders fell to $ 6,046 trillion, the lowest since the summer of 2014.
                1. Avtopilot
                  Avtopilot 10 February 2016 15: 24 New
                  -4
                  6 billion dollars in November 2015
                  Or maybe it's a veiled bribe to Amer so the real sanctions not introduced?
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        5. Dart2027
          Dart2027 10 February 2016 13: 40 New
          0
          Quote: Avtopilot
          To take away the Crimea \ attach \ return at that time it was about the same as the child’s toy in the sandbox was taken away.
          But what about the numerous statements about one of the best armies in the world, great and independent?
          1. Avtopilot
            Avtopilot 10 February 2016 13: 52 New
            -3
            The statements were much later, from the best choice of the Ukrainian people, the partner of your guarantor - Petro Poroshenko
        6. Retvizan 8
          Retvizan 8 10 February 2016 13: 58 New
          0
          Dear, I advise you to think first, and then talk. Your conclusion is at least stupid.
          Or are you a five year old child with a flag and a ball? Then, it's OK.
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  2. Wolverine
    Wolverine 10 February 2016 09: 53 New
    +9
    They could not crap what they did not have ... drinks
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 10 February 2016 10: 46 New
    +5
    The Black Sea has always been called the RUSSIAN SEA! Have you forgotten something?
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 10 February 2016 10: 14 New
    +1
    Analyst: focusing on the Baltic NATO “missed” the Black Sea

    You can’t miss what you can’t do. The Black Sea is our sea, it was, is and will be!
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 10 February 2016 10: 15 New
    +6
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    These ferrets miss nothing. They have all the moves planned ahead.

    Surely many have played "tic-tac-toe" "enlarged" to 5 in a row and know a simple tactic - you see 3 zeros - hammer on either side with a cross. If you miss and your opponent will have 4 zeros, open on both sides - you won't burst, you won't score on both sides in one move. Losing.

    So it is here. Do not have time to score on the Black Sea - in the Baltic states will not work. Our country is big, will try to jump between our two seas - "Levi's" will tear ...

    Damn, a children's game - and how much philosophy, and even in relation to the current geopolitical moment! ... laughing
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 10 February 2016 10: 18 New
    +4
    “After the annexation of the Crimea, Moscow placed heavy military equipment, fighters, bombers and advanced air defense systems on the peninsula,” the author writes. “This arms build-up hinders the activities of NATO and allies in the region and makes it impossible to collect intelligence from the air.”

    Haha And you thought everything was a Shrovetide cat ?! Get used to it, partners, your mother. am
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 10 February 2016 10: 25 New
    +1
    the moves are written exactly .... but their thinking is somehow one-sided - first suck one, then another, etc., and so globally and about everything at once - they cannot
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 10 February 2016 10: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexey-74
      but their thinking is somehow one-sided - first suck one, then another, etc., and so globally and about everything at once - they cannot do this

      They may not suck, but a completely different word, similar in sound ... laughing The American phrase "at some point something went wrong ..." becomes almost an official phrase in special operations reports. At least, it should be like this, because VVP said for a reason that "the Americans will undertake whatever they take, all they have is Syria. And we have a Kalashnikov assault rifle." good
      1. cap
        cap 10 February 2016 11: 04 New
        +4
        CrimeaCrimea
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Quote: Alexey-74
        but their thinking is somehow one-sided - first suck one, then another, etc., and so globally and about everything at once - they cannot do this

        They may not suck, but a completely different word, similar in sound ... laughing The American phrase "at some point something went wrong ..." becomes almost an official phrase in special operations reports. At least, it should be like this, because VVP said for a reason that "the Americans will undertake whatever they take, all they have is Syria. And we have a Kalashnikov assault rifle." good


        Once explained who did not understand repeat.
  • 222222
    222222 10 February 2016 11: 16 New
    0
    ... and MEDIUM too. !! - missile launches from submarines, the Russian Navy ,,
  • Putinets
    Putinets 10 February 2016 09: 32 New
    +2
    Aegis is already a big deal. Repeat?
  • IrOqUoIs
    IrOqUoIs 10 February 2016 09: 35 New
    +5
    Calm down already gentlemen of the NATO, and remember to chase two hares, you will not understand a single one. This only happened to the Russian grandfather Mazay. But how do you know about this ...
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 10 February 2016 09: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: IrOqUoIs
      It was only at the Russian grandfather Mazay


      he didn’t run after them ... they themselves, looking for salvation, jumped into his boat ... Here, too, everyone squeaks and screeches, screaming, but they don’t understand that this subconscious mind asks for help ..
      1. evil partisan
        evil partisan 10 February 2016 09: 51 New
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        this subconscious mind asks for help

        You, Colleague, at least in the know: what is the subconscious? It cannot ask for anything! request
        Hi Freudian horseradish! drinks
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 10 February 2016 10: 02 New
          +2
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Hi Freudian horseradish!



          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          It cannot ask for anything!

          well, they do it request

          Hi Pythagoras .. laughing
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 10 February 2016 10: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: vorobey
            Pythagoras

            Who are you sending to F right now? angry
            And with the Crimea-they really flash about ... yes
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  • tommy717
    tommy717 10 February 2016 09: 35 New
    +3
    "For each of theirs SS we have our own CCC" (quote from the movie)
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 February 2016 09: 37 New
    +1
    Wherever you throw, there is a wedge everywhere in the merikatos! Well, they haven’t been eating them lately! Globalists are shitty! wassat
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 10 February 2016 09: 38 New
    +2
    Yes, now at least tear to pieces. In the Baltic States it is necessary, in the Mediterranean Sea it is necessary, in Korea it is necessary, in the Indian Ocean it is necessary, in the Arctic too. Did you miss something else? Quite possible.
  • Raven2705
    Raven2705 10 February 2016 09: 39 New
    +1
    ... morons ...
    I did not find any more words ...
  • Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 10 February 2016 09: 41 New
    -2
    I remember from the valiant Donald Cook the people fled and the diapers did not help, I am silent about the millions of insurance, I think we can explain to the newly arrived American "bastards" that they have no interests in this region, and no one is going to babysit them. It's so loud of course. I understand perfectly well that there are not children sitting there and not playing fart, but gentlemen overseas, you should not tease the bear in his den, after all, oh, how painful it can be.
  • Sochi
    Sochi 10 February 2016 09: 44 New
    0
    and makes it impossible to collect intelligence from the air ... oh how, sadness for them - the nose was pinched, and they are afraid that we’ll cling to them Faberge in the Baltic.
  • TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 10 February 2016 09: 47 New
    +1
    The guys do not have enough hands to climb wherever they want. And the head does not turn on. Only one Wishlist is working. fool
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 10 February 2016 09: 48 New
    +1
    NATO "missed"
    Not missed, but about ... la. yes Weakened, dibiot, we already began to distribute construction contracts for the repair of the barracks while Yanukovych was still alive ...
  • Dam
    Dam 10 February 2016 09: 49 New
    +2
    Again through the whole article with a red thought: give money, give a million, give a million, otherwise the terrible Russians will come
  • mpzss
    mpzss 10 February 2016 09: 50 New
    +3
    so I read the comments and see everyone is happy that NATO "pros * ali" Crimea and the Black Sea, but you have to think that they will come up with something in response and the answer, I am afraid, will be adequate, so we must not rejoice, but prepare for their reaction, if so far it is only in the form of sanctions, then there is no need to reassure yourself that they will stop there!
    1. Sura
      Sura 10 February 2016 10: 04 New
      +3
      There is a general headquarters with a very large intelligence network.
  • Not served
    Not served 10 February 2016 09: 52 New
    +2
    DEBILYI, they naively believe that we will climb and cut for the Baltic states. Most of them analysts have come off life and do not know the subject. With diplomats the same trouble.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 10 February 2016 10: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Didn't serve
      DEBILYI, they naively believe that we will climb and cut for the Baltic states. Most of them analysts have come off life and do not know the subject. With diplomats the same trouble.

      You shouldn’t be so, about "Pribaltika" they not just tell horrors, these are fairy tales so that you can place modern weapons and missile defense at the closest approaches to us, from us (St. Petersburg) to Estonia is generally a stone's throw, and from Pskov, I suppose with high-rise buildings in the window can be seen Riga.
      All this hype is not easy to create - we will have to be distracted by many different small goals before responding to NATO’s serious aggression. Plus, a springboard is being created to intercept most of our missiles.
      As a reciprocal and probably logical option, I see in this situation the launch of missiles through the North Pole and Chukotka-Alaska
  • taseka
    taseka 10 February 2016 09: 56 New
    +2
    NATO is late to drink barges - if the kidneys have fallen off!
  • viktor561
    viktor561 10 February 2016 09: 56 New
    0
    Yes, we still haven't shown them "Kuz'kina's mother" - our secret weapon - that's when they will definitely do it wassat
  • Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 10 February 2016 09: 57 New
    +1
    Mikhail Krapivin (2) RU

    But for every cunning NATO ferret we have non-linear Russian thinking:


    There is a good Russian scrap for every cunning ass!
  • Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 10 February 2016 10: 06 New
    +1
    To do this, NATO will need an "air police" modeled on the one that patrols the skies over the Baltics,
    What kind of police is this? belay
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 10 February 2016 10: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Yugan Oleg
      What kind of police is this?

      The one that "fined" our VKS for overtaking the "police" pepelats and "unprofessional" demonstration of the stars with newspaper articles.
  • koshmarik
    koshmarik 10 February 2016 10: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: "For this, NATO will need an" air police "modeled on the one that patrols the skies over the Baltics" I think that after the bad Turks set a precedent by banning Russia from lawful control overflights of their territory, the issue with the NATO air police will become much more complicated.
    1. cap
      cap 10 February 2016 11: 14 New
      +3
      army
      Quote: koshmarik
      Quote: "For this, NATO will need an" air police "modeled on the one that patrols the skies over the Baltics" I think that after the bad Turks set a precedent by banning Russia from lawful control overflights of their territory, the issue with the NATO air police will become much more complicated.


      We have experience of dealing with "patrol police". Russia does not need to invent anything.
  • skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru 10 February 2016 10: 16 New
    +1
    “Launches of Russian missiles from the Caspian Sea, from submarines in the Mediterranean and long-range aircraft also showed that the Mediterranean region is within the reach of Russia”
    Launches of ballistic missiles (Satan (voivode), poplar ...) from the waters of the World Ocean and from the ranges of the Russian Federation and others also showed that the PANET EARTH is in the reach of Russia.
    1. da Vinci
      da Vinci 10 February 2016 10: 44 New
      +2
      Judging by the photograph, Serbia has an ICBM? laughing
  • Manul
    Manul 10 February 2016 10: 33 New
    0
    Little nitpicking.
    NATO has already moved
    ... If NATO, then it crossed. If the alliance, then it crossed. Where did it go?
    PS Even about Obama, you can allegorically say - "walked."
  • mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 10 February 2016 10: 38 New
    0
    The Russian strategy is not predictable, so the Americans will have to rack their brains more than once
  • Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 10 February 2016 10: 40 New
    0
    It looks like we have arranged a twine for NATO. Either tear, or organize a war on a larger scale.
  • da Vinci
    da Vinci 10 February 2016 10: 43 New
    0
    "as well as the permanent naval presence of warships with the Aegis missile defense system" - and where is the official statement by the Foreign Ministry about the earlier statement by the United States that Aegis is directed against rogue states (Iran and North Korea)? Or will Rogozin and Zhirinovsky be the mouthpiece, as always? sad
  • triglav
    triglav 10 February 2016 11: 07 New
    0
    Air, say, the police? And we have an S-400 on it.
  • GSVG 86-88
    GSVG 86-88 10 February 2016 11: 46 New
    +1
    And if it had not "missed", then the Iskander brigade was already in the Crimea.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 10 February 2016 11: 48 New
    +3
    I see nothing wrong_ for us. we will strengthen the Black Sea borders (a lot of things will go to the Black Sea Fleet this year), we will strengthen the Baltic border as well. more precisely we will fix. after all, a lot of things went to the bf last year and are planned for the current one. so systematically we will assign NATO. in my opinion they have one way out at least to prevent us from_ arranging a small war (provocation), but we have a general headquarters for this, as noted above.
  • Bacha
    Bacha 10 February 2016 12: 09 New
    0
    Quote: Avtopilot
    One Crimea is worth it! For this, only Putin will be remembered with a kind word in Russia

    To take away the Crimea \ attach \ return at that time it was about the same as the child’s toy in the sandbox was taken away.

    Correctly selected, matches for children are not a toy!
  • barboss98
    barboss98 10 February 2016 12: 21 New
    0
    Quote: Avtopilot
    To take away the Crimea \ attach \ return at that time it was about the same as the child’s toy in the sandbox was taken away.

    Yeah- "onizhedeti" ... played out, good at ...
  • Wolka
    Wolka 10 February 2016 12: 22 New
    0
    that's what, here we are, with Iran in the Caspian, we’ll dig a channel-exit to the Persian Gulf, then it’s as if the Yankees and their licks will die of anger ...
  • Jackking
    Jackking 10 February 2016 12: 29 New
    0
    "This build-up of arms impedes the activities of NATO and its allies in the region" - NATO has nothing to do in the zone of Russia's interests, and even more so near the Russian borders. And put your aegis into your oh ... hearth :)))
  • bad
    bad 10 February 2016 12: 38 New
    0
    Analyst: focusing on the Baltic NATO “missed” the Black Sea
    ... let them continue with enthusiasm looking for "Putin's billions" and "Buryat divers" in the "Donbass" ... you look at something else ... laughing
  • aleks26
    aleks26 10 February 2016 12: 46 New
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    “After the annexation of the Crimea, Moscow placed heavy military equipment, fighters, bombers and advanced air defense systems on the peninsula,” the author writes. “This arms build-up hinders the activities of NATO and allies in the region and makes it impossible to collect intelligence from the air.”
    Do not understand. And if all this weren’t in Crimea, then “intelligence gathering from the air” would be possible? That is, one could fly where they want? And over the territory of another state?
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    Sotnik77s 10 February 2016 13: 24 New
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    "For this, NATO will need an" air police "modeled on the one that patrols the skies over the Baltic states" - these are the type of those 4 = 5 aircraft that are there in the Baltics on a rotational basis, sometimes fly, in some places laughing this air police will be removed from the sky at a time, our SU-35 alone, they’re not used to verbal battles
  • Avtopilot
    Avtopilot 10 February 2016 13: 58 New
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    Quote: Uncle Lee
    The Black Sea has always been called the RUSSIAN SEA! Have you forgotten something?

    and Pontic?))
  • square
    square 10 February 2016 17: 44 New
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    Quote: Avtopilot
    One Crimea is worth it! For this, only Putin will be remembered with a kind word in Russia

    To take away the Crimea \ attach \ return at that time it was about the same as the child’s toy in the sandbox was taken away.

    And if the child plays with a grenade? And in general a pomegranate!
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      Avtopilot 10 February 2016 18: 05 New
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      the fact is that in the Donbass a grenade was not taken away, despite promises: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BZC38Qwfb0
      a logical question arises: why are Crimeans better than Donetsk residents, that they defended some and abandoned others.
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  • square
    square 10 February 2016 18: 17 New
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    Quote: Avtopilot
    the fact is that in the Donbass a grenade was not taken away, despite promises: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BZC38Qwfb0
    a logical question arises: why are Crimeans better than Donetsk residents, that they defended some and abandoned others.

    In Crimea, 90% voted in favor of joining, while in Donbas, less than 60 were ready; And I do not think that the Donetsk residents themselves could at least defend something without support. Again, they would join by force, would be occupiers for half the population. Go then tell me that he was saving them. Remember Moldova, they were also saved from the Turks. My eldest son has a favorite book, the one he bought with his own hard earned money.
    1. Avtopilot
      Avtopilot 10 February 2016 18: 23 New
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      Have you watched the film "Crimea. Return Home"? remember the episode where it is said that 7 berkut men went to Chongar (to stop the Bandera), and 13 to Perekop.
      90% of those who vote are not even 9% who are ready to fight. My Lugansk relatives, 7 people, all voted in a referendum for leaving Ukraine, but they have a war and in the Crimea they just turn off the lights periodically.
      P.S. What's that book? You did not write the name.
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        square 10 February 2016 18: 41 New
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        To my shame, Metro 2033 is just getting used to serious literature, he is only 14.
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    square 10 February 2016 18: 29 New
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    I sincerely sympathize with your relatives, but not only they live in the Lugansk region. Then their children or grandchildren, stupefied by someone else’s propaganda, would behave like maidanuty. Those, too, are not of nature, they were made so. And what war is - I myself know.
    1. Avtopilot
      Avtopilot 10 February 2016 18: 34 New
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      there were their maydanutye, about 5-6 years ago on May 9 yelled "ganba" in the park, I saw it myself, only cops saved from serious bodily. and the same people were caught near the SBU building, after the seizure of it by the then non-militias, they would search, call mom-dad and pass from hand to hand, some have sharpenings and a volume of the poet Shevchenko.
      The north of the Lugansk region is pro-Ukrainian, yes, most likely that was not a referendum either.
  • square
    square 10 February 2016 18: 38 New
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    Well, you yourself answered everything.
    1. Avtopilot
      Avtopilot 10 February 2016 18: 41 New
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      not at all, separatist sentiment was actively fueled by Russian channels, you say start and Russia will intervene and end
      "Nobody promised anything to Donbass" (c)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeP1zQofV94
      1. square
        square 10 February 2016 18: 59 New
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        Of course, I don't remember about "You are just getting started" (although the mood of the reports was about the same), but there was support. Volunteers, weapons and a lot of things to talk about here and what we don't know. In addition, the locals started, who captured the SBU? Is Girkin alone? I doubt it. If the people do not want, you will not raise them to such kipesh. In any case, something would have happened. Maybe like in Odessa. Maybe even worse. And about "Nobody promised anything to Donbass," I think, without support, NATO bombers would have ironed all the rebellious territories long ago. After all, Europeans and Americans are civilized only at home.
        1. Avtopilot
          Avtopilot 10 February 2016 19: 07 New
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          There were more than enough volunteers or zaslants in leading positions in Donetsk, I know more precisely for Lugansk, tk. before the eyes of the relatives, everything was happening, the locals were driving, the wife saw the line of volunteers to enroll in the Zarya battalion (I could be mistaken in the name), and a little later, the blood went to the militia to donate to the hospital, this was after the terrorist attack of the Ukrainian aviation. The claim to the Kremlin is that the mood has been inflated, has allowed and still allows to shoot civilians from artillery, and in Syria, yes, there all the babays were defeated by aviation with missiles and the rating was raised in the eyes of the Russians.
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            square 10 February 2016 19: 15 New
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            Well, in Syria, the Russians have no relatives, but what if your relatives are on the other side of the sight? A rating is an indicator of people's support. Let them somehow depend on it.
            1. Avtopilot
              Avtopilot 10 February 2016 19: 25 New
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              What is the aim there, sometimes we have to argue with our zombie TV, which they believe in a war with Russia, I ask how many times Kharkov or Sumy from Russia was covered with hail? Why is there a Ukrainian tank on the border near the checkpoint, but there is nothing like that on the Russian one? in response, be-me and you yourself are "zazombovany".
              I understand that this is a difficult situation, there is no simple solution, but time goes on and I don’t see any positive progress in LDN ...
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                square 10 February 2016 19: 28 New
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                To my shame, "Metro 2033" is only getting used to serious literature, he is only 14. That's it, I went to bathe the younger one, thanks for the conversation.
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            square 10 February 2016 19: 23 New
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            Politics, just like refereeing, is a dirty, vile business and difficult for the soul, but I understand them. This is not about two areas, but about the whole of Europe. It's not for me to judge them.
            1. Avtopilot
              Avtopilot 10 February 2016 19: 28 New
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              To my shame, Metro 2033 is just getting used to serious literature, he is only 14.


              and slip him "In August 44th", Bogomolov, or "Star" of Kozakevich, at my age of 14 it was a hit like now "Avatar"))
              Have a good day!
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