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North Korea gave the United States a reason to deploy missile defense

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North Korea gave the United States a reason to deploy missile defenseDPRK authorities have announced the successful launch of a satellite into space. The launch of the launch vehicle itself sharply condemned the entire international community, suspecting the North Korean authorities of testing the ballistic weapons. Pyongyang’s latest violation of the UN Security Council resolution allowed the United States and South Korea to begin negotiations on the deployment of a US missile defense system in the south of the Korean Peninsula. China immediately expressed "serious concern."


Leading countries of the world sharply negatively perceived the launch of a North Korean rocket on Sunday night. This time it is about launching a satellite into space. In the DPRK, they say that everything went well. In South Korea, talking about a failed attempt. But everyone is concerned, since the launch of this type of missiles from the territory of North Korea is prohibited by UN Security Council resolution.

North Korea should stop provocative actions, said UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, commenting on the launch of the satellite by Pyongyang. The US, South Korea, Japan, Russia and China reacted badly.
“We are compelled to state that Pyongyang did not heed the calls of the international community, once again demonstrating defiant disregard for the norms of international law,” the statement said on the Russian Foreign Ministry’s website.

China, for its part, made a presentation to the DPRK Ambassador in Beijing after launch. According to the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the PRC, Hua Chunin, the DPRK should have the right to the peaceful use of outer space. However, at the moment, her right is limited by a UN Security Council resolution, reports Xinhua.

One of the South Korean politicians, leader of the Senuri party, Lee Chol Wu, on the basis of common concern, even suspected Russia of supplying parts for the DPRK missile. He also said that the satellite launched by the DPRK weighs only 200 kilograms - an insignificant mass, according to the parliamentarian, for a spacecraft. A normal satellite, according to him, should weigh 800 – 1200 kg. Thus, Lee Chol Wu says, the launch should be considered precisely as a test of a ballistic missile, Yonhap reports.

Meanwhile, the actions of Pyongyang, the United States decided to use in order to begin negotiations with Seoul on the deployment of its missile defense system in the south of the Korean Peninsula.

"The United States and South Korea have agreed to start an official discussion on the possibility of deploying THAAD complexes in order to increase the missile defense capabilities of the US-South Korean alliance," said a South Korean defense spokesman, TASS reports.

In response to this decision by Seoul and Washington, China expressed "grave concern." “All countries, striving to ensure their security, should keep in mind the security interests of other countries, as well as peace and stability in the region,” the PRC Foreign Ministry stressed.

Experts are sure: as Washington once intended to deploy missile defense in the Czech Republic and Poland, allegedly against Iran, so now the new system in Korea will first of all become an element of deterrence not China, but China and, possibly, Russia.

“The latest launch of the satellite rocket was not even a pretext, but an excuse for negotiations behind the missile defense complex going on backstage between Washington and Seoul for a long time,” Alexander Zhebin, head of the Center for Korean Studies at the Far East Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences told the VIEW newspaper.
At the same time, according to the expert, the nature of these anti-missile systems suggests that they are not created to destroy North Korean missiles and protect against the DPRK, but to intercept Russian and Chinese missiles, in case "if such an incredible situation arises ".

Negotiations between Seoul and Washington over missile defense were previously known from various unofficial sources due to leaks. “Thus, everything was planned long ago. But the Americans needed a good excuse to declare this and justify the existence of their missile defense complex. In this sense, Kim Jong-un is a very convenient figure with whom the United States never tried and did not want to negotiate anything, rejecting all attempts. And what could be otherwise? Imagine: tomorrow, as a result of negotiations, the DPRK would agree to surrender its nuclear weapons. But then the Americans would not have been able to talk more about the North Korean threat, could not have explained the deployment of their missile defense system, and not only in Asia, but also in Europe. And then the real picture would open to everyone at once, that all these complexes are directed against Russia and China, ”he explained.

The expert also stressed that North Korea today has not made a single successful intercontinental ballistic missile test. Even the Pentagon recognized this in its analytical report to Congress. It has never been recorded that a rocket flew several thousand kilometers, entered the dense layers of the atmosphere, overcame pressure there and delivered a charge to the target.

“Thus, there is no real threat from the DPRK. But the United States has the opportunity to deploy missile defense, and even try to break the objectionable (North Korean) regime with the hands of Russians and Chinese, so that later American troops could reach the land borders of Russia and China, ”he added.

In this regard, the position of one of the main candidates for the presidency of the United States, Donald Trump - “let China solve the DPRK problem” - is very typical of Washington, said Jebin. “This is such an American ploy. The Chinese have already tried to seat Pyongyang and Washington at the negotiating table. But the Americans did not sit down and tried to strangle the disagreeable regime with the Chinese hands. But, I think, Beijing should have enough restraint and wisdom not to succumb to such things, ”he concluded.

Literally, Trump during the pre-election debate said: “China says that it does not control the DPRK. In fact, they completely control the DPRK ... Let China solve this problem. ”

An interesting point of view on the situation was also expressed by the head of the State Duma Defense Committee Vladimir Komoyedov. “This area is becoming rocket-prone for Russia,” he stated. And although “it is necessary to punish the DPRK with something,” you first need to think about how to do it and whether it is worth it.
Komoyedov also noted that plans to deploy the THAAD American missile defense system in South Korea threaten Russia's security. According to him, this is a threat to the nuclear forces of Russia. "This, of course, is not to dig up the beds, so that by the morning it will be ready ... But in a planned manner such systems can be built," he says, Interfax.

As one of the options that would allow control over the development of armaments in North Korea, he suggested including this country in the “nuclear club”.

We add that, according to South Korean intelligence, North Korea is already preparing another, fifth, nuclear test.

12 January North Korea announced the adoption of a thermonuclear charge.

6 January Pyongyang announced that he had conducted the first hydrogen bomb test, the existence of which had previously been mentioned by the DPRK authorities. The Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO) confirmed that the “unusual seismic event” in the DPRK was a man-made explosion. However, this international organization noted that the explosion in North Korea was not powerful enough to talk about the hydrogen bomb.
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  1. 24rus
    24rus 9 February 2016 06: 01 New
    -1
    For bourgeois mandrapped
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 06: 03 New
      +8
      Quote: 24rus
      For bourgeois mandrapped

      If necessary, they will erase North Korea in a week. It doesn’t reach you that North Korea stupidly gives the Amers a reason to place more troops at our borders there. It seems that I’m sitting and talking with zombie maidanut crests.
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 9 February 2016 06: 09 New
        -2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: 24rus
        For bourgeois mandrapped

        If necessary, they will erase North Korea in a week. It doesn’t reach you that North Korea stupidly gives the Amers a reason to place more troops at our borders there. It seems that I’m sitting and talking with zombie maidanut crests.

        It looks like a kid with a squint can not play enough in war games.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 9 February 2016 07: 19 New
          0
          It seems that in the DPRK, next to the head of the country, there is a pro-American "mole" such as our Machiavellianist and ideological agent of influence A. Yakovlev under M. Gorbachev. As a result, the USSR lost the Cold War to the West, and the entire European part of the socialist system completely collapsed, and all its components fell under the external control of the United States. In this case, the “moles" of the USA can also be considered M. Gorbachev himself, recruited by A. Yakovlev.
          Mole is an agent deeply incorporated into the structure of opposing forces, as a rule, delivering especially important, classified information. The main difference from the scout in its traditional meaning is that the “mole” is recruited even before it gets access to classified information, sometimes even before it starts working in the field that interests the recruiting (sending) party. Often, “moles” are recruited “for growth”, with the aim that sooner or later the “mole” will reach a high position in the organization of the enemy side and will begin to supply useful information.
          Wikipedia.
      2. Finches
        Finches 9 February 2016 06: 22 New
        +2
        No one forbids North Koreans to fly into space, but you need to do it openly - invite international observers, show, they say, a peaceful satellite with posters for aliens with Juche ideas, etc. And so, only one Juche knows that they shoved it in! Since the level of technology is unlikely to ensure flight safety, then who will crash their piece of iron - a question? Therefore, I understand Yu. Korea in her fear! And the Americans will not miss such an opportunity to drag their military whistles and fakes! Therefore, I think it will be right if through the diplomatic channels GDP and Xi Jinping tell the Eun boy about his mistake and intrusively offer their help - they will take control of all the tricks of North Korea! Until the navel of the whole Earth, as usual, began to throw bombs over Pyongyang, pumping up the situation with ours borders!
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 9 February 2016 06: 33 New
          +8
          Quote: Finches
          No one forbids North Koreans to fly into space, but you need to do it openly - invite international observers,


          Oh well, but it seemed to me that everything was against Korea having a carrier i.e. rocket and space flights are the development of BR.
          But that's why even we reacted so sharply, it’s not entirely clear what kind of decision it is to officially ban developing to some countries, Israel, without problems, suddenly it became possible to have nuclear weapons? request
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 07: 10 New
            +2
            Quote: NIKNN
            But why even so we reacted so sharply, it’s not entirely clear what kind of decision it is to officially prohibit the development of certain countries, Israel suddenly it became possible to have nuclear weapons without any problems?

            We know that some frostbitten "leaders" from a thriving "paradise" are constantly promising to drown Seoul in a sea of ​​fire.
            Something I have not heard from South Korea such a statement.
            The nuclear bomb in Kim’s hands is a grenade in the hands of a monkey.
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 9 February 2016 08: 08 New
              +4
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Looks like it doesn’t reach you that North Korea stupidly gives the Amers a reason to place more military troops at our borders there.

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The nuclear bomb in Kim’s hands is a grenade in the hands of a monkey.

              Romanov, I understand that you are a consistent and implacable opponent of the North Korean regime, but tell me - haven't the Americans themselves defiantly left the ABM treaty? The States plan to deploy their global missile defense system by the end of 2018, absolutely regardless of any actions of third countries. And undoubtedly deployed.
              As for "a grenade in the hands of a monkey" - it is more about Obama. He is more like a primate than Kim Jr. smile And US actions in the international arena raise huge doubts about its adequacy.
          2. Dewa1s
            Dewa1s 9 February 2016 13: 21 New
            0
            North Korea stupidly gives rise to amer

            that's why even we reacted so sharply
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 9 February 2016 17: 43 New
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              And I'm sure the United States would still have found a reason. Give them the DPRK or give them no reason. One FIG USA strictly follow their plans to nullify the strategic nuclear forces of Russia and China

              The DPRK is simply fighting for its freedom and security. At the same time, he barks more and tries to scare the aggressor - and real pressure. real exercises and a demonstration of force and threat come from a more powerful aggressive side - from the United States with South Caucasus and Japan

              I think that the method of concessions has exhausted itself on the example of the USSR and Gorbachev - therefore, the North Koreans are doing everything right - do not give up no matter what.
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 9 February 2016 06: 40 New
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          Quote: Finches
          Nobody forbids North Koreans to fly into space, but you need to do it openly - invite international observers, show, they say, they say, a peaceful satellite with posters for aliens with Juche ideas, etc.

          Due to the fact that the parameters of the launch vehicle coincide with the technologies of intercontinental ballistic missiles, the launch of the satellite was condemned by the international community.
        3. GRAY
          GRAY 9 February 2016 06: 59 New
          +4
          Quote: Finches
          but it’s necessary to do it, it’s open - to invite international observers, to show, they say, a peaceful satellite with posters for aliens with Juche ideas, etc.

          They did just that last time, although, in principle, they could not invite anyone - anyway, there’s no difference.
          ! And the Americans will not miss such an opportunity to drag their military whistles and fakes!

          Of course they will not miss it and they don’t need a reason for this.
          In, 2012:
          The construction of a global missile defense system will continue, its facilities will be located in Asia, including in South Korea, Pentagon chief Leon Panetta said on Wednesday.
          “The Republic of Korea and the United States continue dialogue on missile defense issues in order to ensure protection consistent with the missile threat from the DPRK. We will take any steps necessary to gain confidence in readiness (for a possible missile strike). We just talked about the deployment of the TPY-2 radar system in Japan, we will also continue the dialogue with our friends in the region about the future development of such capacities, ”Panetta said on Wednesday after talks with his South Korean counterpart in Washington.

          http://vz.ru/news/2012/10/25/604154.html
        4. Generalissimo
          Generalissimo 9 February 2016 07: 17 New
          0
          Do Americans invite you?
      3. user
        user 9 February 2016 11: 28 New
        0
        If necessary, they will erase North Korea in a week.


        Do not say nonsense.
        Before delivering a nuclear strike on the Korean Peninsula (and one can’t do with one or more strikes on such a relief), you need to predict the reaction of China and Russia to the nuclear war on their border.
        As for the ground operation, as the Americans say, "there will be a disproportionate price" and there is no need to remember the Korean War, now the DPRK is quite a developed country, but it lags behind in advanced technologies, but it contains an army, as for the mobilization reserve, it is probably more only in China , and the term of service is 8-10 years, i.e. the reserve has practically served this entire period, and the motivation and propaganda is such that there was no such thing either in the USSR or in Germany.

        Concerning

        Another violation of the UN Security Council resolution by Pyongyang allowed the United States and South Korea to begin negotiations on the deployment of an American missile defense system in the south of the Korean Peninsula.


        So the DPRK ratified the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, but withdrew its signature after the conflict with the IAEA, and Israel, India and Pakistan refused to sign the Treaty.

        An interesting situation turns out to be someone nobody pays attention to or pretends that they have no problems, but they do something extreme, without legal (that is, undertaken by the country itself) obligations. And this is just a reason to deploy your missile defense, as in Europe against Iran.

        This is precisely the policy of double standards.
      4. Andy
        Andy 9 February 2016 11: 43 New
        0
        romanoFF is the same coming .. to like the crowned namesake nicholas. Also in front of Yapi, his leg jumped and lost an empire. one might think that the USA does not sculpt about in Poland and Romania, that there is no maritime component in Japanese bases ... and they don’t need any reason.
    2. Blondy
      Blondy 9 February 2016 06: 19 New
      +1
      If a reply arrives from the "mocking" bourgeoisie, very vast southern regions of the Russian Far East will be exposed to radioactive contamination - you can continue to rejoice, but Russia, too, judging by the statement of the Foreign Ministry, is "jittery"
      1. Andy
        Andy 9 February 2016 11: 48 New
        0
        and Russia mandates in front of everyone. even in front of the Baltic countries. all verbiage escapes and threatens to answer with tomatoes as with Turkey. and I’m not boiling into the UN saying that we are the attacked side, acting at the request of the legitimate government (!), the plane was shot down over Syria ... her, why do we need it.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 06: 01 New
    +5

    Meanwhile, the actions of Pyongyang, the United States decided to use in order to begin negotiations with Seoul on the deployment of its missile defense system in the south of the Korean Peninsula.

    Well, fans of Kim, we have few problems? Did we also need this hemorrhoids? In addition to problems from Kim, you will not get anything, you can continue to dance and praise the sun-faced. Although you may be the same.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 9 February 2016 06: 04 New
      +3
      Who about that, but the anti-communist about the bathhouse .., ugh, about Kim laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 06: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: Observer 33
        Who about that, but the anti-communist about the bathhouse .., ugh, about Kim

        What about the article? Come on, praise Kim, tell me what he’s doing right. Now the Americans will post the hell knows what and how much. It’s wonderful, wonderful and what else. You and Kim like you sang such odes, but not one of you moved there for permanent residence.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 9 February 2016 06: 52 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          You and Kim like you sang such odes here, but not one of you moved there for permanent residence.
        2. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 9 February 2016 07: 07 New
          +4
          Well, firstly: When did I sing odes to Kim?
          Secondly, I do not care about Kim, however, like the Americans ...
          And that they will post, so they will post at least with Kim, at least without.
          And about S.Korea, well, they like to go to work for work, let them go, now what can they throw with their sanctions and bombs for this?
          And the article about the deployment of the American missile defense system in South Korea is far from being about Kim. That is what I had in mind ... yes Everyone will read what he wants to read. laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 07: 12 New
            +3
            Quote: Observer 33
            And about S. Korea, well, they like the system we go to work, let them go

            Open the borders and they will rush to build districts from their paradise.
            1. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 9 February 2016 07: 52 New
              +1
              And where should they run? Rather, they will establish relations with the Southerners and those factories will begin to build on their territory, they will collect tablets and smartphones instead of missiles. Yes, for God's sake, I'm only for! Only on condition that all this passes through the world. In the meantime, they are only scared from all sides, they threaten in response, what else can they do ..?
              1. 0255
                0255 9 February 2016 09: 45 New
                +1
                Quote: Observer 33
                And where should they run? Rather, they will establish relations with the Southerners and those factories will begin to build on their territory, they will collect tablets and smartphones instead of missiles. Yes, for God's sake, I'm only for! Only on condition that all this passes through the world. In the meantime, they are only scared from all sides, they threaten in response, what else can they do ..?

                In the DPRK there are factories built by the "cursed South Korean imperialists."
              2. Dewa1s
                Dewa1s 9 February 2016 13: 25 New
                0
                aha, southerners are straight asleep and see.
      2. Alexdark
        Alexdark 9 February 2016 06: 29 New
        +2
        And where is communism? What common? Is that the cover. The DPRK is more likely a certain sect, with inhuman life, slaves. Communism is somewhat different, the exact opposite and not the gulags on a national scale.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 07: 14 New
          0
          Quote: AlexDARK
          And where is communism? What common?

          And what not
      3. Blondy
        Blondy 9 February 2016 06: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Observer 33
        Who about that, but the anti-communist about the bathhouse .., ugh, about Kim

        Listen, move to the Far East - there you can also talk about Korean life and defend Juche and Kim ... until they give in the face.
        1. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 9 February 2016 07: 10 New
          +3
          As mentioned above, we are not badly fed here either. Here it is in eastern Siberia. And who did I protect? request They live in isolation and let them continue to live, all they want is that they would not go to them. And it is not necessary.
          And about your claims to Kim, however, like all D.V., I can only guess laughing
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 06: 10 New
      +3
      Meanwhile, the actions of Pyongyang, the United States decided to use in order to begin negotiations with Seoul on the deployment of its missile defense system in the south of the Korean Peninsula.
      Sasha hi, it was in the plans of the amerophs (around us) just now, as it were, an official "pretext" appeared, well, they will post it half a year earlier, what do we do with that? so, so pro would appear there.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 06: 22 New
        -2
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        , it was in the plans of the amerophs (around us) just now, as it were, an official "pretext" appeared, well, they will post it half a year earlier, what do we do with this?

        Maybe they placed it, but maybe not. But now, after Kim’s idiocy, they’ll definitely place it.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 06: 52 New
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Maybe it was placed, but maybe not.

          here, everything is chewed well:
          The weight of the South Korean "missile ultimatum" to China in the light of the militarization of the APR. Its consequences for the Russian Federation
          Today, 06: 16 Print
          and even specified:
          THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE THAAD AMERICAN PLAN DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE PRC “SOFTBODY” OF PRC, OR ON PYONGYAN'S REFUSAL FROM NUCLEAR WEAPONS
          hi
          1. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 9 February 2016 07: 19 New
            +2
            Well, at least someone sees the gist.
        2. Stanislas
          Stanislas 9 February 2016 07: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          after Kim’s idiocy, they’ll definitely place
          Are you protecting the barrack? They started on a slippery slope ... The next step is to accuse Putin of aggression against the "light ukrov" and the seizure of Crimea as the reason for Russia's "international isolation". Would you yourself sit quietly in Kim's place? Then the American bases would have long been on the border of Korea with China and Russia, 150-200 kilometers from Vladivostok.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 07: 38 New
            -3
            Quote: Stanislav
            Are you blocking Baraka? Steel on a slippery track ..

            Are you ill?
            Quote: Stanislav
            Would you yourself be quiet in Kim’s place?

            And who are they afraid of Kim? Is someone going to attack him?
            1. Stanislas
              Stanislas 9 February 2016 07: 53 New
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Are you ill?
              Yeah, I'm worried about you.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Is someone going to attack him?
              A phrase from a liberal quotation book of the early 90s: "Who needs us, who is going to attack us?"
            2. Bayonet
              Bayonet 9 February 2016 20: 10 New
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Are you ill?

              smile smile wink
    3. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 9 February 2016 06: 16 New
      +3
      There is a suspicion that Kim is doing exactly what is currently beneficial to the United States. And he does it frankly, not hiding, but rather on showing everyone and everyone. If there wasn’t such a Kim, then the United States would have to create him.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 9 February 2016 06: 52 New
        +3
        now about kaklov, then about Eun, it would be better about the anniversary of the feat of the Varangian and Korean remembered! (just in those places the events took place)
        Glory to the Russian Sailors!


    4. GRAY
      GRAY 9 February 2016 06: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Well, fans of Kim, we have few problems? Did we also need this hemorrhoids? In addition to problems from Kim, you will not get anything, you can continue to dance and praise the sun-faced. Although you may be the same.

      Imagine that the Americans and Europeans gotten into so much space that they don’t need anything from Russia, that’s just real - nothing at all, no cooperation.
      And for each launch of a Russian rocket, we’ll be charged with this kind of information crap.
      If you follow your logic, then you need to stop launching rockets into space so as not to disturb anyone, otherwise we will give an occasion to deploy missile defense around us.
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 9 February 2016 12: 15 New
      0
      Quote: Alexander Romanov

      Meanwhile, the actions of Pyongyang, the United States decided to use in order to begin negotiations with Seoul on the deployment of its missile defense system in the south of the Korean Peninsula.

      Well, fans of Kim, we have few problems? Did we also need this hemorrhoids? In addition to problems from Kim, you will not get anything, you can continue to dance and praise the sun.

      The US missile defense will be an annoying factor not only for Russia, but also for China and China has not yet spoken in relation to the US plans for missile defense, so this is not only our problem. Kim has no other opportunity to test the BR except to give it in the form of a satellite launch - and the fact that Kim’s 200-kilometer blank rolls there does not upset him because he now has a means of delivering a nuclear warhead to a distance of 12 thousand km.
      I am not a supporter of Kim, but I must admit that it is precisely the demonstration of readiness to use nuclear weapons that still prevents the United States from carrying out another "democratization" in this country.
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      If necessary, they will erase North Korea in a week.

      Break off. In my opinion, the army of North Korea has 4 million pieces, not including the mobile reserve. So everything will be complicated there in a land operation, and Japan and South Korea will be the first to oppose the use of nuclear weapons, since no one wants to breathe radiation after Hiroshima. Better a bad world than a good war. Will agree with Kim.
  3. Bayonet
    Bayonet 9 February 2016 06: 03 New
    +2
    February 9, 2016, 04:50 Zvezda TV channel
    The media learned that the satellite that launched the DPRK into space on Sunday, February 7, is getting out of control. So, as reported by CBS with reference to US military sources, the device "tumbles in orbit."
    The channel emphasizes that Pyongyang for the second time failed to launch the satellite into a stable orbit. CBS notes that although the DPRK announced the successful launch of four satellites, the US military confirmed the launch of one in 2012.
    Let's see what our space tracking services say while they are silent.
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 9 February 2016 06: 25 New
      0
      Quote: Bayonet
      Let's see what our space tracking services say while they are silent.

      Yes, here he is:
      http://www.n2yo.com/?s=41332

      And about "tumbling in orbit" - this, as I understand it, the Americans have to take their word for it, right?
      :-) In addition, if he needs to maintain a constant stable position relative to the surface of the earth, then he just should "somersault".
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 9 February 2016 06: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: GRAY
        And about "tumbling in orbit" - this, as I understand it, the Americans have to take their word for it, right?

        You can’t even believe yourself if it will be for the benefit of fat Eun!
        Quote: GRAY
        In addition, if he needs to maintain a constant stable position relative to the surface of the earth, then he just should "somersault".

        Well, just a masterpiece! lol
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 07: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: GRAY

        And about "tumbling in orbit" - this, as I understand it, the Americans have to take their word for it, right?

        Do you have proof that a traveler transmits signals? No, then there’s nothing to talk about.
        And what about somersault, gee gee
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 9 February 2016 07: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Do you have proof that a traveler transmits signals? No, then there’s nothing to talk about.

          The satellite is included in the international registry of spacecraft. I do not catch signals from satellites.
          And what about somersault, gee gee

          OK. Imagine that the device has a directional antenna or any other crap, which should be constantly directed exactly perpendicular to the surface of the Earth.
          If the spacecraft is not given rotation around the transverse axis, then it will be possible to do this only in ONE POINT of the orbit, and at the opposite point of the orbit the antenna will be directed exactly perpendicular FROM the Earth's surface (i.e., into outer space).
          Such, without a doubt, an unexpected effect for you and some of your associates is directly related to the fact that our planet has the shape of a ball.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 07: 50 New
            0
            Quote: GRAY

            The satellite is included in the international register of spacecraft

            All the trash is brought in there.
            Quote: GRAY
            OK. Imagine that the device has a directional antenna

            Goodbye! Satellites are manageable!
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 9 February 2016 07: 58 New
              -1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Goodbye! Satellites are manageable!

              The laws of physics do not cancel this.
              If the word "antenna" pokes you so much, replace it with the word "lens" - it may feel better.
          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 9 February 2016 20: 14 New
            0
            Quote: GRAY
            Imagine that the device has a directional antenna or any other crap, which should be constantly directed exactly perpendicular to the surface of the Earth.

            Just imagine what it means to "tumble" !!! request
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 9 February 2016 21: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Bayonet
              Just imagine what it means to "tumble" !!!

              Well, what is he doing? It turns out that in one full revolution the satellite makes a complete revolution around its transverse axis. 1 revolution in orbit = 1 somersault.
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 06: 06 New
    +4
    North Korea gave the United States a reason to deploy missile defense
    Well, in fact, it is possible that this is so. But on the other hand, look: when did the United States need a reason? and who did they ask? And do we have a moral right to condemn those who do not like the American-NATO "democracy", if people want to be hungry but free, this is their choice and their right. And I don’t really like that ours suddenly sang along to the UN ...
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 9 February 2016 06: 59 New
      -4
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      if people want to be hungry but free, this is their choice and their right.

      And who asked them? smile
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 08: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        And who asked them?

        do you also have an idea of ​​them as a concentration camp country? just like the kakly people think of us now?
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 9 February 2016 12: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Do you also have an idea of ​​them as a concentration camp country?

          About North Korea? Yes! Yes! Yes! And the opinion, as you say, "kaklov" - I don't care about my ass, I have my own hi
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 9 February 2016 08: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I don’t really like that ours suddenly sang UNU.
      If the UNU, and then after all, the UN itself is on the hype ...
  5. Wolka
    Wolka 9 February 2016 06: 07 New
    +4
    this should be taken for granted, and there is no need to "scare and not push", Korea has quietly become a player to be reckoned with, and why is it that if China, Russia, the United States and others can "go" into space, then Korea suddenly "does not it is supposed ", the space club is an indicator and is far from frail, and Korea, with all that is against it today, has reached it ...
    1. SAM 5
      SAM 5 9 February 2016 06: 22 New
      +1
      And yet this is a test of IMHO BR
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 9 February 2016 07: 01 New
        0
        Quote: SAM 5
        And yet this is a test of IMHO BR

        100 pounds !!! hi
  6. Good_Taxist
    Good_Taxist 9 February 2016 06: 13 New
    -1
    Quote: sgazeev
    North Korea gave the United States a reason to deploy missile defense

    This is an occasion to indicate to them the direction of the first strike !!!!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 06: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: Good_Taxist
      This is an occasion to indicate to them the direction of the first strike !!!!

      what blow? nuclear, it’s impossible, too close to the allies, not nuclear, for that Eun is forcing the creation of nuclear weapons to think about, what if he applies, if he presses, there will be no way out? so with the advent of nuclear weapons in the north, the situation was stalemate, but in favor of Un.
  7. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 9 February 2016 06: 17 New
    +2
    And although "it is necessary to punish the DPRK with something," you must first think about how to do it and whether it is worth it.
    "Choose the lesser of two evils." North Korean missiles or THAAD system? For me, the lesser evil is missiles. Of course, Kimushka made a "setup" with this launch. This means that it is necessary to understand, and not to start deploying the missile defense immediately.
  8. lwxx
    lwxx 9 February 2016 06: 19 New
    +4
    Now we have to put missile defense systems somewhere in Cuba to protect our American partners from a possible threat from the DPRK wassat
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 February 2016 06: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: lwxx
      Now we have to put missile defense systems somewhere in Cuba to protect our American partners from a possible threat from the DPRK

      it would be a good move, and most importantly, altruistic, with care for "partners"! yes
  9. Alexdark
    Alexdark 9 February 2016 06: 24 New
    -3
    C'mon, they started a tin can from herring, the sense of it. Floundering there and does not show signs of life. Who will seriously look at this?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 9 February 2016 07: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: AlexDARK
      C'mon, they started a tin can from herring, the sense of it. Floundering there and does not show signs of life. Who will seriously look at this?

      It's as clear as day! With the help of the "herring can", the launch of an intercontinental ballistic missile is being practiced, with the possibility of delivering a warhead instead of the "herring can"! And talk about the satellite, this is so, for cover, which is confirmed by its strange behavior in orbit.
  10. Yak28
    Yak28 9 February 2016 07: 03 New
    +1
    Let the US missile defense build, so that China gets nervous, otherwise China and ours will have a policy for you and yours, they all want to sit out quietly without losing it, but it doesn’t happen.
  11. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 9 February 2016 07: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    North Korea stupidly gives rise to amers to place there more military at our borders.

    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Now the Americans will place the hell knows what and how much.

    It turns out that the poor DPRK, unable to literally feed the people, under sanctions, does all this to provoke the SGA to place something else? And without them they would not have placed?

    "Camp Humphreys. A US Army base near Pyeongtaek City. It already houses about 17 troops. By 000, should be the largest US garrison in Asia."
    This is just about South Korea. What about Japan? how many there?

    North Korean leaders need an external enemy, this is as usual.
    It’s impossible to laugh at a monkey with a grenade nearby - this is the second reason.
    In addition, in their tradition, the cult of the army and defense, it must also be supported.
    And the neighbors are afraid - that means respect!
    Although, I do not argue, it helps NATO to be located at the same time. ABM, for example.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 9 February 2016 07: 21 New
      -1
      Quote: tehnokrat
      And without them they would not have placed?

      There were no such plans. Maybe you heard about them?
      Quote: tehnokrat
      And the neighbors are afraid - that means respect!

      True and who respects North Korea? Who!
      1. woron333444
        woron333444 9 February 2016 07: 56 New
        +1
        And in Europe from Iran? Now sanctions have been lifted from Iran. And now from whom the missile defense system? Probably also from Korea.
      2. 0255
        0255 9 February 2016 09: 50 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        True and who respects North Korea? Who!

        Military Review Commentators laughing
      3. tehnokrat
        tehnokrat 9 February 2016 10: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There were no such plans. Maybe you heard about them?

        No, I have not heard. In the public domain they apparently do not publish
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        True and who respects North Korea? Who!

        So it’s me just with irony, figuratively, so to speak. I thought, I see ...
  12. ARS56
    ARS56 9 February 2016 07: 18 New
    +5
    For the USA, the preposition does not matter. Yes, good. No - they will come up with, as in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia.
    What is the pretext for sanctions against Russia? Conviction of thieves from Hermitage Capital Management and accidental death in prison from a heart attack of an accountant - auditor of the Firestone Duncan consulting company, which defended Hermitage Capital - Magnitsky.
  13. sa-ag
    sa-ag 9 February 2016 07: 47 New
    0
    The main goal is that China would have been placed anyway, especially since China and its bulk islands gave rise to, well, Kim, the impression is that he does it for money
  14. NOTaFED
    NOTaFED 9 February 2016 08: 47 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: 24rus
    For bourgeois mandrapped

    If necessary, they will erase North Korea in a week. It doesn’t reach you that North Korea stupidly gives the Amers a reason to place more troops at our borders there. It seems that I’m sitting and talking with zombie maidanut crests.


    Did they need a reason at least once? They will decide and place, without any reason.
  15. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus 9 February 2016 10: 13 New
    0
    North Korea gave the United States a reason to deploy missile defense
    You might think that mattresses need a reason. When they need everything to be done without reason.
  16. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 9 February 2016 10: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Who respects North Korea?

    Leaders, perhaps, not at all. But the people are worthy of respect.
    I had to be there, we DPRK completed the enterprise. The efficiency and dedication of Koreans cannot be overestimated. How offended they were when the Soviet Union collapsed: “Korea (DPRK) has been the eastern outpost of the social camp for all these years, defended it, and now you left us with Japanese militarism alone!”
    Throughout its history, the country has been starving, although it has almost everything for a normal economy. 2 problems: lack of electricity and pastures. And the Kimov dynasty, out of a thirst for power, keeps talented people locked up.
    1. 0255
      0255 9 February 2016 10: 38 New
      -1
      Quote: tehnokrat
      Throughout its history, the country has been starving, although it has almost everything for a normal economy. 2 problems: lack of electricity and pastures. And the Kimov dynasty, out of a thirst for power, keeps talented people locked up.

      This is not true, you are lying, everything is wonderful in the DPRK - fans of Kim will think and not believe you laughing
  17. Hecate
    Hecate 9 February 2016 10: 51 New
    0
    North Korea has nothing to do with US missile defense. If there was no North Korea, the United States would have found another reason ... US missile defense is directed against the Russian Federation and partly China, and all these tales about North Korea are nothing more than fairy tales ... Hillary Clinton openly declared the United States' desire to chop off Siberia from the Russian Federation and not only ... It's time for the Russian Federation to start arming the Indians in the United States, so that they arrange the Yankees `` American Chechnya ''
  18. Victor-M
    Victor-M 9 February 2016 11: 55 New
    0
    North Korea gave the United States a reason to deploy missile defense

    It is possible that North Korea is a project of the United States (its bad guy, so to speak), for the occasion to indicate its presence in the Pacific region and the deployment of its missile defense there. If it weren’t, could the Americans be so easy to bend South Korea and Japan under their own interests, referring to the nuclear threat that they themselves are more likely to represent for the world?
  19. 400
    400 9 February 2016 22: 49 New
    0
    One gets the impression that the United States is tightening a noose around Russia, plus creating a contingent around northern China, although this is not an impression ....