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The court freed the "school shooter" Sergei Gordeev from criminal liability, sending him to compulsory treatment

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The Moscow District Military Court, which tried the murder of a Moscow schoolboy (high school student Sergei Gordeyev) of two people (a geography teacher and a policeman), issued a verdict about sending the young man to a specialized clinic for compulsory treatment. Interfaxreferring to the lawyer of the injured party Sergey Trunov, reports that the court found the results of psychological and psychiatric examination sufficient to exempt Sergey Gordeev from criminal liability and send for treatment.


The court freed the "school shooter" Sergei Gordeev from criminal liability, sending him to compulsory treatment


Attention is drawn to the fact that the prosecutor asked to release the schoolchild-killer from criminal responsibility. It was he who proposed to send a young man who in 2014 from weaponswho belonged to his father, shot the teacher of school No. XXUMX of Moscow and a law enforcement officer, taking his classmates hostage.

Sergey Trunov (the lawyer of the injured party) believes that the results of the examination raise questions. According to him, the “school shooter” is imputable and therefore must bear the criminal responsibility for the crime committed.

It must be recalled that in addition to the killing of two people, Sergei Gordeyev seriously injured the second police officer who had arrived at the school building as part of the outfit in order to deal with the situation after an emergency call to the duty unit.

Sergey Trunov:
Today's court decision says that the teenager is innocent and discharged. We do not agree with this decision, the court passed with grave violations, the examination does not hold water. If he didn’t understand anything, he didn’t recognize his father (it was the father who came to the school and, after a brief conversation in the classroom, disarmed Sergei Gordeyev - note “VO”) and would have killed him too.


Counsel for the injured party:
He (Gordeyev) will be in a civilian hospital and treated, and every six months he will undergo an examination, which may show that he can continue treatment at home on an outpatient basis.
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  1. maxim1987
    maxim1987 8 February 2016 16: 52
    12
    no words of loneliness belay
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 8 February 2016 16: 54
      +6
      And who is father? It seems like an important bump?
      1. Pravdarm
        Pravdarm 8 February 2016 16: 59
        10
        Yes, for sure! Some kind of crap!
        WHERE? Societies. Nar Front???? Which speaks so much ...!
        United (not with ordinary citizens) Russia!
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 8 February 2016 17: 55
          +2
          He must be sent to the States as a prisoner of conscience. Let him atone for the streets of Washington.
      2. zennon
        zennon 8 February 2016 17: 22
        +5
        Quote: Megatron
        And who is father? It seems like an important bump?

        Naryl only this:
        Neighbors say that the shooter's mother, Irina Gordeeva, works in a bank. And the father, according to rumors, is still (there are a variety of versions: Ministry of Emergency Situations, special services, police, approx. Author) in the Ministry of Internal Affairs system.

        Although the father said at the school-: It would be better if my son was killed ... ", maybe for a catchphrase? The only available photo of Gordeev:
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 8 February 2016 17: 43
          +1
          Or maybe the fact is that this son knew in advance that his dad would smear him and therefore mow down under a psycho?
          1. aleks 62 next
            aleks 62 next 9 February 2016 09: 12
            0
            ... knew that his dad would smear him and therefore mow down under a psycho? ...

            ... Papic suggested ...
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      3. Bort radist
        Bort radist 8 February 2016 17: 59
        +3
        Quote: Megatron
        And who is father? It seems like an important bump?

        FSB
      4. the polar
        the polar 8 February 2016 18: 19
        +2
        Father fsbshnik with general shoulder straps
      5. starshina78
        starshina78 8 February 2016 18: 27
        +9
        The fact of the matter is that only one thing is known about the father, that he is a security official. It is not known who exactly, but there are some good connections. On one of the sites I read part of his interrogations, where he gives answers meaningfully and clearly. A person with a disturbed psyche cannot give such answers. This incident is similar to what happened in Irkutsk (referring to the defendants escaping punishment), when Madame, the daughter of one important mother from this city, kills one and cripples the other sister on the sidewalk. So this daughter received for some years with a delay of sentence, and then generally came under amnesty. All the same, in Russia, the courts are still very dependent on persons close to the authorities or close.
        1. Wheel
          Wheel 8 February 2016 18: 44
          +6
          Quote: starshina78
          All the same, in Russia, the courts are still very dependent on persons close to the authorities or close.

          But what, in vain did the power vertical rebuild in sweat?
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      6. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 8 February 2016 18: 42
        +6
        I didn’t understand why the district military court examined the case? A policeman was killed, not a soldier. The killer’s father is a fsbshnik, maybe that's why? Indeed, the law is that drawbar. . .
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev 8 February 2016 16: 55
      +6
      Quote: maximNNX
      no words of loneliness belay

      Dad with Shaggy Paw am
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 8 February 2016 16: 59
        16
        Quote: sgazeev
        Dad with Shaggy Paw

        Here and daddy kopeck piece was supposed to shine ,,,,,,,, and in the course everything was paid.
        1. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 8 February 2016 17: 05
          18
          It would be necessary to punish the father seriously, because he didn’t keep the weapon well and raised his son with a dribble! Sorry for the harshness ...
          1. Andrey77
            Andrey77 8 February 2016 17: 08
            +1
            It’s necessary, but you can steal the keys to the safe if you wish.
          2. Vita vko
            Vita vko 8 February 2016 17: 21
            +9
            Such crimes are either in a state of effect or planned revenge. The fact that a teenager is crazy, but only a crazy man can go to kill does not mean that a person should not be held responsible. Then, according to the logic of the court, the terrorists are also crazy and they also need to be treated.
            But if he is really an unbalanced schizophrenic, then teachers and parents had to raise the alarm for a long time and send him to a special boarding school. Then this is obvious negligence resulting in the death of people, i.e. in prison you need to put your father and class teacher.
            Impunity for serious crimes always has very serious consequences.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 8 February 2016 17: 58
              +6
              This is all not important. Type socially dangerous and do not care about his motivation.
              If in the future he still kills someone, everyone who is involved in his release must be destroyed. It is a pity that this is not spelled out in the criminal codec.
            2. ksv1973
              ksv1973 8 February 2016 18: 40
              11
              Quote: Vita VKO
              But if he is really an unbalanced schizophrenic, then teachers and parents had to raise the alarm for a long time and send him to a special boarding school.

              It is immediately obvious, Vitaly, that you do not know how things are going with us in Russia with the isolation of the mentally abnormal from society. Send such a patient to a boarding school for permanent residence ?! Yes, it's easier to climb Everest alone without insurance and without an oxygen apparatus !!! Families have been suffering for DECADES with such relatives, people go to bed and do not know whether they will wake up or they will be killed in a dream by a two-legged animal living in the next room. The maximum that our free psychiatry does is hospitalization for a month or two in a clinic, where the patient is "stabbed" with drugs during this time. Then the patient returns home, the effect of the drugs stops, he refuses to take the prescribed drugs, he eats only what he prepares himself (for fear that the medicine will be mixed into his food). And at one far from perfect moment, another mound appears in the cemetery, or even several - and ONLY THEN, MAYBE, a new inhabitant will appear in the special boarding school. And it's not a fact that forever ...
              As you probably already understood, I’m familiar with the problem firsthand. I have such a nephew.
              1. Uncle
                Uncle 8 February 2016 19: 49
                0
                Quote: ksv1973
                I know firsthand the problem. I have such a nephew.

                Then you should know that compulsory treatment is worse than prison.
                1. ksv1973
                  ksv1973 8 February 2016 22: 29
                  +2
                  Quote: Uncle
                  Quote: ksv1973
                  I know firsthand the problem. I have such a nephew.

                  Then you should know that compulsory treatment is worse than prison.

                  Uncle, have you ever seen your mother and sister bruised from the beating of your mentally-abnormal relative ?! I’m sure not.
                  And you felt your powerlessness ?! Mother and sister kneel before you, so long as you don't kill this creature !!! Would you be ready to exchange your comfortable life for a life on a bunk for 15 years if this relative were "banged" ?!
                  So here. Before discussing what is worse and what is better - you need to think hard.
                  I do not blame you for anything, you are simply "not in the subject." Good luck to you!
              2. northern
                northern 8 February 2016 19: 59
                +1
                Yeah, you won’t envy you. And forced psychiatry was taken away from us in the wake of pity for dissidents, fact. Now we have what we have - really socially dangerous at large and beyond jurisdiction.
          3. Humpty
            Humpty 8 February 2016 17: 24
            +3
            Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
            It would be necessary to punish the father seriously, because he didn’t keep the weapon well and raised his son with a dribble! Sorry for the harshness ...

            With the multiplication of the wicked, iniquity multiplies; but the righteous will see their fall.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 8 February 2016 18: 21
              +1
              The righteous will be killed by the wicked. This is a more likely observation result.
          4. ksv1973
            ksv1973 8 February 2016 18: 43
            +5
            Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
            It would be necessary to punish the father seriously, because he didn’t keep the weapon well and raised his son with a dribble! Sorry for the harshness ...

            It is possible that his son himself will punish him someday. "Stoned" and strangled in a dream. Among the "majors" this has become commonplace in recent years.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 8 February 2016 19: 36
              +2
              Dad Brazinskas still died at the hands of his son.
        2. Andrey77
          Andrey77 8 February 2016 17: 06
          +2
          Nobody canceled for the careless storage of weapons. Sounds like yes.
          1. Pravdarm
            Pravdarm 8 February 2016 17: 09
            +3
            This question probably did not even come up!

            PS: Actually - "Military Review"!
            And not legal and not psychiatric!
            1. yuriy55
              yuriy55 8 February 2016 17: 13
              10
              What is there to invent?
            2. lelikas
              lelikas 8 February 2016 17: 51
              +3
              Quote: Pravdarm

              PS: Actually - "Military Review"!
              And not legal and not psychiatric!

              For that it’s not about Ukraine ,,, although it was already a couple of times today ..
          2. kil 31
            kil 31 8 February 2016 18: 36
            +1
            Quote: Andrey77
            Nobody canceled for the careless storage of weapons. Sounds like yes.

            So that's it. About the lad we hear, and about the father the storage of fire was silence. Funny situation.
        3. the polar
          the polar 8 February 2016 18: 22
          +5
          The pope probably both the judge and the prosecutor his case lies in the service safe
        4. gavrosh.ru
          gavrosh.ru 8 February 2016 20: 44
          +1
          In our country, the rule of law is respected (or not respected) solely out of interest (money is secondary). surprise forum users cause emotion.
      2. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 8 February 2016 18: 44
        +1
        Boys in furry uniforms
      3. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 9 February 2016 09: 15
        0
        .... Dad with a shaggy paw am ...

        ... Most likely, daddy has the ability to put pressure on a judge (using his official position and accessibility to the materials of the judge's "work" activities) ....
    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 8 February 2016 17: 15
      +3
      And then the parent was punished for the careless handling of weapons, which resulted in the death of a person?
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 11 February 2016 11: 34
        0
        He personally did not carelessly apply. He casually kept. These are different articles. The first is killing by negligence, the second is the careless storage of weapons (if roughly - negligence). For the first plant, for the second - conditionally plant.
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 8 February 2016 17: 16
      +2
      The problem is far from the fact that the child was accustomed to weapons. As a son of a military man, I was also trained in the handling of weapons from childhood. But my father also taught me never to point a weapon at a person for no reason. And this guy has clearly broken his psyche, and this is definitely the fault of his parents first of all. But whether his treatment will be effective is very doubtful. Most likely we are talking about a banal otmazyvanie from punishment.
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 11 February 2016 11: 36
        0
        The fact that my son was told to mow under a psycho is 100%. This is ANY lawyer will advise the first thing. And then litigation, medical and psychiatric examinations will begin ... As a result, they will be let go on the brakes.
    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 8 February 2016 17: 20
      12
      But is this not the illegitimate son of Vasilyeva or Taburetkin, it stinks too painfully of this and why the military court?
    6. meriem1
      meriem1 8 February 2016 22: 04
      0
      Quote: maximNNX
      no words of loneliness belay

      You do not know along the way ??? Treatment, it is unlimited for anyone! Can Rodaki crush money? And if provocation? No one will risk a salary ... not modest! There everyone (in the institution) receives that he will not turn away for 25 years. Here is an example. The brother of the ex-wife))) according to the Criminal Code 3 years maximum ... in a fool 8.5 years. And then they took it on a subscription. Now they even feel sorry. If you do not understand ... the subtleties .. I explain in PM!
    7. Dam
      Dam 8 February 2016 22: 17
      +3
      Sorry, but in the ass such humanism!
    8. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 9 February 2016 09: 10
      0
      ..... no words-odnogruzhestva ...

      .... And very bad .... Unprintable ... request
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 8 February 2016 16: 53
    16
    "and every six months to undergo an examination that can show that he can continue treatment at home on an outpatient basis."

    That is, theoretically, this "patient" will be able to appear on the street again in six months !? belay
    1. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 8 February 2016 17: 05
      +6
      And with a discharge epicrisis: "Healthy!"
      "Relative" will hit this topic!
    2. dyksi
      dyksi 8 February 2016 17: 12
      +2
      Maybe someone will meet him on the street and "talk" about the past. Something we often began to appear such thugs, and themis was blindfolded.
    3. Mikado
      Mikado 8 February 2016 17: 18
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "and every six months to undergo an examination that can show that he can continue treatment at home on an outpatient basis."

      That is, theoretically, this "patient" will be able to appear on the street again in six months !? belay

      Maybe you remember how not so long ago the so-called. "singer" Kondratyev (aka "Konstantin Krestov"). For several rapes of girls. And how at first they wanted to either give a scanty term, or completely let go, I do not remember .. And then they still soldered the real one.
      This is not the point. We all understand that the so-called. The "singer of the Crosses" is really a real maniac. It's just that before he was sure that he could pay off, and nothing would happen to him. And now, after his imprisonment, what's in his head ... To kill victims, for example (God forbid!). I hope he will not be released, he will die there, which does not matter. I'm not bloodthirsty. You have to be realistic. This is a maniac. And maniacs are not cured. If they don't want to shoot, let them keep them in prison for the rest of their lives.
      And with this brat .. One hell of a guy, too, will not cure .. to say "shoot" - the tongue does not rise ..
      1. Andrey77
        Andrey77 11 February 2016 11: 48
        0
        What do you offer? Let's create a secret society that will "erase" those who evaded justice?
    4. aleks 62 next
      aleks 62 next 9 February 2016 09: 20
      0
      .... That is, theoretically, this "patient" will be able to appear on the street again in six months !? belay

      ... And then everyone is surprised by the mob law .... They themselves are pushing for it ..
    5. Andrey77
      Andrey77 11 February 2016 11: 40
      0
      Not that it can, but will appear. Now, with mild to moderate mental disorders, outpatient treatment is being prescribed. And the lawyers know that. Mowing under a psycho was beneficial before, now - three times.
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    1. sgazeev
      sgazeev 8 February 2016 16: 58
      +3
      Quote: The same Lech
      The grimaces of our justice ... two corpses ... the culprit of their death is going to take medicine ... to heal and again kill someone.

      But I saw off and met the granddaughter, passing by this school, on the spot as much as three pieces. recourse
  4. Sinecote
    Sinecote 8 February 2016 16: 55
    +2
    Quote: Vladimirets
    "and every six months to undergo an examination that can show that he can continue treatment at home on an outpatient basis."

    That is, theoretically, this "patient" will be able to appear on the street again in six months !? belay

    It would be better for him not to appear there.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 8 February 2016 17: 10
      0
      What will you do to him?
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 8 February 2016 17: 25
        +3
        What will you do to him?


        The question is if you ask the relatives of the victims ???
        May not reach home.

        In addition to the court of men, there is the court of GOD ...
        I did not believe in him before, then the truth was convinced that he still exists and his punishment is much worse and harder for those who commit violent crimes.
        One trouble ... reckoning for the deed does not come quickly.
        But there are cases for which I do not have a definite answer and assessment ... I can not judge ....

        The man was sentenced to 7 years of strict regime for the fact that he dealt a mortal blow to a drug addict who broke into his house.

        http://www.nsk.kp.ru/daily/26457.4/3327102/
        1. Petrof
          Petrof 8 February 2016 18: 43
          +1
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          I did not believe in him before, then the truth was convinced that he still exists and his punishment is much worse and harder for those who commit violent crimes.



          and what do you call the court of God?

          “God's Judgment” - in the Early Middle Ages, a way to identify guilt, a test of fire, red-hot iron, water (cold and boiling). It was used when ordinary judicial means did not produce the desired results. (with)

          but there is another meaning he is the Last Judgment

          The Last Judgment is the judgment of the Lord Jesus Christ over all people on earth, living and dead, which will take place at His Second Coming. In this case, the dead will be resurrected, and those who live will change (1 Cor. 15: 51-52), and each will be determined by eternal fate according to his deeds (Matthew 25: 31-46, 2 Cor. 5:10) and words (Matthew 12:36 )
          1. Sinecote
            Sinecote 8 February 2016 20: 41
            +1
            The first case has one name from "God". The second is a symbolic concept, and calls for living righteously, and not waiting for reckoning. And then there is justice that is beyond our understanding. I agree with "The Same Lyokha": retribution does not come soon, but it does come.
        2. Andrey77
          Andrey77 11 February 2016 11: 49
          0
          Lynching is not an option. Believe me.
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 8 February 2016 16: 58
    17
    The grimaces of our justice ... two corpses ... the culprit of their death is going to take medicine ... to heal and again kill someone.

    In my NOVOSIBIRSK the same story, a frostbitten youngster stabbed a girl and they also want to take him away from punishment in a similar way.
    If so they continue to free the killers from punishment, there will be popular avengers who will correct such distortions.
  6. Million
    Million 8 February 2016 16: 59
    +3
    Otmazal father. Corruption in our current state is invincible
  7. Samen
    Samen 8 February 2016 16: 59
    +4
    Those. No one has taken real responsibility? !!! Shot off and went to the hospital?
    And what about the father is not communicated ...
    This is weird.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 8 February 2016 17: 11
      +3
      Exactly. Lying in a mental hospital for six months - and freedom.
  8. staryivoin
    staryivoin 8 February 2016 16: 59
    +6
    I would very much like to read the entire judicial verdict that is being said. The content of the article has very little information about the progress of the proceedings. But the conclusion is simple - human life in Russia costs nothing for either the court or the prosecutor.
    On this "proodnichestva" I agree ... The teenagers have become more violent. They fight as if they are fighting a German near Stalingrad ... And these are not words. That's life...
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 8 February 2016 17: 03
      +6
      But the conclusion is simple - human life in Russia costs nothing for either the court or the prosecutor.


      Unfortunately, this has become the norm ... as well as cruelty in our society.
      The fundamental principle of any justice has been violated ... this is the inevitability of fair punishment.

      The most striking recent example is hehe heh story with SERDYUKOV and VASILIEV.
      And I have no confidence in our judicial system .... in its justice.
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 8 February 2016 17: 20
        +1
        And I have no confidence in our judicial system .... in its justice.
        I recommend watching the TV show "Man and the Law", where they tell and show a lot about our justice. On Friday, they showed how one businessman from Vorkuta hit a woman, then made sure she was alive and ran her over again in his car. The judge acquitted him. request
        One was pleased that the woman remained alive.
  9. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 8 February 2016 17: 03
    +9
    how all this is familiar ... in my city the pedophile was also tried by the judicial RAT to hide under house arrest due to one understandable "HUMANISM" ... They also found a house and a lingering pedophile-rat (I personally went to this scum and such clearly not one). We also learned the name of the representative of themis, and if it were not for the intervention in the impending events of the mayor of the city himself with sending scum to the bullpen (well, or where the cops shut him down), then this sweet couple would certainly not smile for long. I realize that I am vomiting from the concepts: pedophile + fagot + juvenile justice. These creatures in my city will not pass.
    With respect to the moderators.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 11 February 2016 11: 54
      0
      The bullpen is from 3 hours. He sat for 3 hours, the documents are in order - free.
  10. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 8 February 2016 17: 08
    +4
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    The grimaces of our justice ... two corpses ... the culprit of their death is going to take medicine ... to heal and again kill someone.

    So that there are no more such frequent grimaces of our most humane justice, it is advisable in the future to take such monsters prisoner "DO NOT TAKE"!
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 8 February 2016 17: 14
      +2
      Those. go to jail for exceeding the limits during detention? The police also have families.
  11. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 8 February 2016 17: 12
    +4
    "Long live our Russian court - the most humane court in the world !!"
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 8 February 2016 17: 17
      +3
      Alas, yes. Our policeman formally carries a pistol - it’s more expensive to use a weapon.
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 8 February 2016 17: 34
        +3
        But the citizens themselves do not have the right to defend themselves and wait until the police help you. And it remains, at best, to run away in the worst die! That in the first that in the second you will not be accused of hanging self-defense.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 8 February 2016 17: 51
          +3
          But the citizens themselves do not have the right to defend themselves and wait until the police help you. And it remains, at best, to run away in the worst die! That in the first that in the second you will not be accused of hanging self-defense.


          Here, everyone decides for himself ...
          either six dead in the sepulcher carry him ... or twelve jurors judge his living ... this is the reality.
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 8 February 2016 20: 47
            +1
            And not the fact that they will justify hi
            1. Andrey77
              Andrey77 11 February 2016 12: 10
              0
              99% Settlement Colony, 1 year. This is the "standard" for the defender. If you are happy, you will sit with the same unsuccessful arrows.
          2. Andrey77
            Andrey77 11 February 2016 12: 06
            0
            This is the truth of life. But as a rule, three will judge. :(
  12. Koshak
    Koshak 8 February 2016 17: 13
    +1
    Yes, here you can remember "punitive psychiatry" too. To such exactly and apply - insane so insane.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 8 February 2016 17: 29
      +1
      Quote: Koshak
      Yes, here you can remember "punitive psychiatry" too. To such exactly and apply - insane so insane.

      Psychiatrists are generally advocates of sterilizing psychiatric patients with some of the diagnoses.
      But they will not say this to the public.
  13. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 8 February 2016 17: 28
    +2
    maybe with the cultivation of the institute of blood feud some of our republics are right?
    why was the district military court considering the case because the grandfather and father of this puppy are from the military department?
  14. NKVD
    NKVD 8 February 2016 17: 28
    +4
    Are they completely foolish !!! Not only is killing a serious crime in itself. Killing a policeman in the line of duty is a particularly serious crime. Lords of the metropolitan police, justice spat in your face, you got together and kept silent and did nothing?
    1. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 8 February 2016 17: 44
      +6
      Quote: NKVD
      .Mrs. Metropolitan police, justice spit in your face, you got together and be silent and do nothing?

      They will get lost, and then they will "come off" on someone.
  15. Hooks
    Hooks 8 February 2016 17: 42
    +3
    2 members of the judges considered the criminal case, the second time 3 judges of the MILITARY court and all came to the conclusion about the insanity of the defendant. I doubt corruption. Not that case. But the shooter can be forcibly treated for longer than 10 years (maximum punishment for minors), until he feels better. Sincerely.
  16. guzik007
    guzik007 8 February 2016 17: 45
    +3
    Oh, nothing daddy otmazatsya son! Will go to a special hospital. And our psychiatrists, who have not lost the rich experience of their teachers in forensic psychiatry, will do everything to turn it into a vegetable, after serving a sentence capable of only working as a janitor. And so I would have served the intended - all one is better.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 8 February 2016 20: 05
      +3
      Quote: guzik007
      Oh, nothing daddy otmazatsya son! Will go to a special hospital. And our psychiatrists, who have not lost the rich experience of their teachers in forensic psychiatry, will do everything to turn it into a vegetable

      You are a naive person ... Nobody will touch him there, they will give a separate ward with all conveniences, half a year or so will go over and go home for outpatient treatment ...
  17. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 8 February 2016 17: 55
    +1
    ONE CHILD! Children of wealthy parents! Is it possible to plant them?
    If the doctors in a special hospital have honor and conscience, then they "by mistake" have to pump a cube of air into his vein with a galloper. Such "shooters" should be hung together with their parents!
  18. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 8 February 2016 18: 05
    +1
    Quote: guzik007
    Oh, nothing daddy otmazatsya son! Will go to a special hospital. And our psychiatrists, who have not lost the rich experience of their teachers in forensic psychiatry, will do everything to turn it into a vegetable, after serving a sentence capable of only working as a janitor. And so I would have served the intended - all one is better.

    Maybe he would become a man (1% out of a hundred), and after a fool he will finish off his parents or even worse start killing serially .. hi
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 8 February 2016 18: 06
    +4
    We laugh in vain, the word CHILDREN and children are two different things. CHILDREN by definition - while across the bench lie !!!! Next, look in the mirror - whom you gave birth to, then you are.
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 9 February 2016 06: 04
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      We laugh in vain, the word CHILDREN and children are two different things. CHILDREN by definition - while across the bench lie !!!! Next, look in the mirror - whom you gave birth to, then you are.

      Yes, can you really adequately assess the situation, according to whom your son wouldn’t, look in the mirror and blame yourself, a merry little businessman, as you showed on the father’s box whose son homosexual soaked his lover, cut him up and dined freshly, so father said the guy who was trying to interview him, I have no more son, although also not from poor people. Before writing about the mirror, try on a situation for yourself, unless of course you have CHILDREN, it is a matter of decency, there are offspring of which the parents themselves are ready to kill.
  20. Bort radist
    Bort radist 8 February 2016 18: 29
    +1
    In Novokuznetsk we have a telling story with Spesivtsev. The first time he scoffed at a girl who found something in him. Recognized insane. The girl later died in the hospital. It seems like not a killer. He was treated for 3 years. Released in 1995. Now in a mental hospital. In Serbian, he was studied before the moratorium on the death penalty. After the 95th they managed to prove that he killed and ate 19 people. 82 sets of clothes were found in the room. Mother helped him - lured and swept traces. Released in 15 years. How many such stories should be repeated?
    http://www.allkriminal.ru/article/13396/597
  21. fa2998
    fa2998 8 February 2016 18: 33
    +1
    Quote: Hooks
    I doubt corruption. Not that case.

    The Constitution of the Russian Federation, Article 19-All are equal before the law and the court.



    1. So if the accused was a moron and a schizophrenic, why did he study at a regular educational institution, and not a special one.
    2. If he studied there for committing a particularly serious offense, he should be tipping the taiga for more than 10 years.
    3. And father has a good article in the Criminal Code.
    And in the end, vitamins will be generated for him and in six months an examination will take place and will be at home. negative hi
  22. Bort radist
    Bort radist 8 February 2016 18: 48
    +1
    Quote: fa2998
    . So if the accused was a moron and a schizophrenic, why did he study at a regular educational institution,

    He won in mathematical olympiads)))
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 8 February 2016 18: 56
      +2
      Quote: Bort Radist
      Quote: fa2998
      . So if the accused was a moron and a schizophrenic, why did he study at a regular educational institution,

      He won in mathematical olympiads)))

      That's right .. I think the father is to blame! He should have been sitting next to his son in the dock ... He simply broke his son! hi God be his judge ...
  23. sw6513
    sw6513 8 February 2016 19: 06
    0
    No one doubted the court ruling from the very first day — laws do not work in our country (for whites)
  24. Artem shlykov
    Artem shlykov 8 February 2016 19: 12
    +2
    A dangerous precedent. During the Soviet era, the upbringing of adolescents took place on the street. On the street, responsibility for the words and actions spoken was instilled. Today, in the age of the Internet, this responsibility is practically absent in the minds of adolescents. Computer games, zombies, and often parents give rise to permissiveness, impudence, irresponsibility, impunity in the behavior of youngsters. Teachers ceased to be a fundamental example, with honor and conscience outside May, in which students would comprehend the eternal, good, rational ...
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 8 February 2016 20: 07
      +1
      Quote: Artem Shlykov
      During the Soviet era, the upbringing of adolescents took place on the street.

      It was on what "streets" during the Soviet era were the majors brought up? Why, I have never met a single son of the elite's parties on the street.
      1. Seal
        Seal 8 February 2016 20: 40
        +2
        Someone never met a son of the party elite on the street even once.
        And did you know the entire party elite and their family members?
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 9 February 2016 05: 33
          0
          Quote: Seal
          And did you know the entire party elite and their family members?

          No, the guys from the street knew who for what and what they were.
      2. Artem shlykov
        Artem shlykov 8 February 2016 23: 21
        +2
        Where is the word "major" in my post? And this geek is the son of a party member?
  25. koksalek
    koksalek 8 February 2016 19: 44
    +1
    Wow, it’s already becoming fashionable among the snickering rich youth to dunk common people and go out as if nothing had happened
  26. theodore rasp
    theodore rasp 8 February 2016 19: 49
    0
    If this treatment is lifelong, regardless of short-term remission, then this is normal. What is abnormal is that it ... will be kept for our money!
  27. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 8 February 2016 20: 29
    0
    In the current situation, one can only hope that the treatment will be radical - haloperidol, insulin coma, antipsychotics. laughing

    It is a pity that lobotomy is strictly condemned. laughing

    The comrade must have seen enough of the Amer's lying militants about cool rambo-in; or maybe he decided that he was superman; shooting, I think, also helped (they generally need to be allowed only for adults with a certificate from a psychiatrist about mental adequacy). If people like him had not been debilitated through the latest approaches to education and upbringing, maybe the result would have been different.
  28. Seal
    Seal 8 February 2016 20: 50
    +3
    Here the main problem is that for more than 100 years, all kinds of crookers and lawyers and psychiatrists-psychologists who have joined us have been taking us by the nose, driving into society a silly theory that an insane person should not be responsible for his actions to the fullest extent of our softest laws, but should be treated.
    Lawyers and lawyers, as well as psychiatrists, psychologists have very good with this theory, and most importantly, guaranteed earnings. In my opinion, if a person is insane - he must be isolated from society, and not walk around the streets. Not necessarily in a special hospital where else. If he is quiet, let him sit at home under the supervision of relatives. We must take a walk - put on a dressing gown with knotted handles, tied them up and took him out for a walk. And if someone committed a crime - it does not matter at all whether he was sane at that moment or not. The punishment must be inevitable.
    1. gg.na
      gg.na 9 February 2016 01: 04
      +1
      Quote: Seal
      The punishment must be inevitable.

      I too for that! What the difference in what state he (the criminal) was, did he be kind enough to answer according to the law! And so different maniacs on this one and they are taxiing out like a psycho turned him on into a madhouse (a typical person of such arrogance) a vivid example! am
  29. NordUral
    NordUral 8 February 2016 22: 08
    0
    Immediately pops up a question about his relatives. I wonder why?
  30. gg.na
    gg.na 9 February 2016 00: 59
    0
    Maybe what shoot such immediately recourse while trying to resist ... repeatFIG knows request
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  32. VP
    VP 9 February 2016 06: 01
    -1
    Tell me, where can I see who posts the material? It would just be interesting to know why the author believes that various political and everyday news must be on the military resource in the section "military review" and what are the prospects for publishing reports of road accidents here.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 11 February 2016 12: 27
      0
      Places material BO. If there is a claim to the article, write to the moderators in the VO, and not to discuss the article! This is hard to understand or email address. mail at VO is classified?
  33. Bort radist
    Bort radist 9 February 2016 15: 46
    0
    On February 8, Vladimir Krokhin, a Moscow police officer wounded by a "school shooter", almost died while arresting criminals. Intruders are looking for. Here's how what coincidences (?)
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 11 February 2016 12: 22
      0
      Which ones? If the given policeman is in the "first line", then every day there will be matches. The police also work "enthusiasts". Which are for (idea, honor, drive), and not for money. There are not many of them, but they are.