Robotic fakes

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Robotic fakes


The DEBKAfile website, which is allegedly linked to Israeli military intelligence, has published material about the use of Russian military equipment by the Syrian government army. robots. The Bellingcat portal and the Maxpark network also wrote about this.

According to DEBKAfile, which now widely diverge on the Internet, the Syrian troops use the tactical developments of the Russian military and their equipment, including the latest prototype robots developed by domestic scientists. We are talking about robotic complexes "Platform-M" and "Argo". Both robots, according to the site, are equipped with heavy armor and are capable of participating in combat operations at any time of the day, regardless of weather conditions. At the same time, Platform-M is designed to collect information, detect and destroy various targets. It also provides fire support for connections when relocating or moving over rough terrain. At the same time, the platform can be equipped with semi-automatic or automatic fire control systems.

But the all-terrain vehicle "Argo", according to DEBKAfile, was introduced to participate in operations on cross-country and mountainous terrain. Recently, the Syrian rebels, fighting against the regime of Bashar al-Assad, were repeatedly subjected to shelling from the remote-controlled robots, the site claims.

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Interestingly, for the first time a post about the use of the Russian military robots by the Syrian army was published on the eve of the New Year in the Maxpark network.

It was reported that the Andromeda-D automatic control system was deployed to Syria for combat testing. Moreover, with the help of this technology and the support of Russian paratroopers, as follows from the message, the Syrian troops managed to take the strategic height of 754,5. At the same time, six Platforma-M complexes and four Argo robots participated in the attack. In addition, they were assisted by Acacia self-propelled artillery mounts (this, if anyone does not know, the Russian 152-mm self-propelled howitzer. - V.Yu.).

In addition, the blogger reported, the battlefield was monitored from the air Drones, transmitting information to the deployed Andromeda-D field center, as well as to Moscow at the National Defense Control Center, the command post of the Russian General Staff. Combat robots, self-propelled guns and drones, he paints, were tied to the Andromeda-D automated control system. The head of the attack on the height in real time commanded the battle, the operators of combat robots, being in Moscow, conducted the attack, each saw both his own section of the battle and the whole picture as a whole. The drones, in turn, controlled all enemy movements. Artillery strikes were carried out on the detected targets, literally 20 minutes after the start of the attack of combat robots, the enemy retreated, leaving behind the dead and wounded. Subsequently, almost 754,5 dead were counted on the slopes of Hill 70, while the Syrian soldiers had no dead. The number of wounded did not exceed four people ...

I see how serious people in uniform already laugh at this publication, ironically about me, they say, why does the military journalist retell all this nonsense, which is nothing but the violent fantasy of a certain author practicing in creating information fakes. Of course, they are right, it was not worth paying attention to it, if ...

If after the publication in Maxpark 25 of December, the respected Sputnik agency did not report on taking the heights using Russian UAVs with reference to the WarFiles portal. And then this information attracted the attention of Bellingcat employees, who conducted their analysis of publications from the social network Maxpark and Sputnik, and at the time these lines were written, the material about the use of the Russian military robots by the Syrian army appeared on Newsru.com, it was referred to other sites, even authors of reputable and respected newspapers have pecked at it ... And, as they once said, "socialism is sweeping the planet."

JOKES OF PORTURE ARE NOT ALL INNOCENT


Moreover, the fact that the Syrian army used Russian military robots was sucked from the finger of a non-existent fact that Russian President Vladimir Putin was taken out of context at the annual big press conference, which, speaking about the participation of Russian Aerospace Forces and military sailors against the terrorists of the “Islamic State” (IG - an organization banned in the Russian Federation), said that “it is difficult to imagine the best teaching”. And DEBKAfile, moreover, screwed here another misinformation that Russia supplies weapons an organization that the US considers a terrorist, namely Hezbollah. And not just weapons, but heavy weapons, including tactical long-range missiles (?!), Projectiles with a laser guidance system and anti-tank weapons.

Referring to his interlocutor, whom he calls commander Bakr, DEBKAfile claims that at present Hezbollah and Russia are strategic allies in the Middle East. According to the field commander, the participation of the Russian Federation in the air operation in Syria has changed the course of ground military operations, which Hezbollah, with the support of Iran, is leading in the territory from Latakia to Idlib province. The armament of the group, the site claims, includes about a thousand installations of multiple rocket launchers and more than 100 thousand missiles to them, receiver artillery, unmanned aerial vehicles and anti-ship missiles of Iranian production, as well as various anti-tank missile systems, including Russian RPG-29 and RPG-7B. There is evidence of the presence of Iranian-made Zelzal-2 operational-tactical missile systems for militants with a range of up to 200 km, capable of striking the center of Israel.

So, interfering with the real facts and fictions, foreign media are trying to cast a shadow on the fence, to discredit our participation in the fight against terrorists in the Middle East, and to help Russia to the legitimate government of Syria in getting rid of the militants of the Islamic State. Why this is done, in principle, is understandable. It is very easy to stick the transfer of fighting robots by the Russian military to the Syrian government army’s inventions about the Russian missiles shooting peaceful Syrian citizens. For the same purpose, to show that the Russian cyborg anonymously, without exposing their faces, the hands of the Assad soldiers kill the Arab population. The calculation is simple: the excitable population of Middle Eastern countries instantly believe in it. With all the ensuing consequences.

Why I did not officially respond to this publication in the domestic Ministry of Defense, I don’t know. Maybe it’s because you don’t throw a handkerchief on someone else’s mouth, you don’t hesitate for every sneeze. Maybe because they are tired of refuting various nonsense. Even the most sophisticated. At least not a single press conference in the military department, not a single briefing can do without the head of the Press and Information Office, Major General Igor Konashenkov, not lead and refute the long list of malicious absurdities that he reports about the Russian operation in Syria Western and not only Western press.

ANALYZING THE PRODUCT WITH LOGIC



At the test site, President Vladimir Putin and other leaders appreciated the prototypes of combat robots. Reuters Photos

Messages portal DEBKAfile also quite easily refuted. Including his fiction about the strategic partnership of Russia and Hezbollah and our supply of weapons to this organization. To do this, we need to voice one unchanged rule that our arms suppliers are guided by: never does our country sell any military equipment and weapons to any non-governmental and government militarized organizations. Only to the government of a country and only with the guarantees set forth in the contract that this weapon will not be sold or transferred to any third subject. It is clear that the authors of the site DEBKAfile may have their own scores with Hezbollah, but why should Russia be drawn in here ?! We have to object to those who, voluntarily or unwittingly, are mistaken: the official Russian supplies for Hezbollah are, to put it mildly, a fake, if not malicious misinformation.

The absurd is the message of the use of the Russian military robots by the Syrian army. First, they still do not even stand in service with the Russian army itself. Secondly, why should our country test them in Syria and precisely in the composition of the Syrian government armed formations? Do we not have enough of our polygons for this? In addition, those who studied it and who can do it, that is, Russian specialists, should manage domestic robotic devices. And they, as you know, do not participate in the ground operations of the Syrian troops. It’s even more ridiculous to read that the Platform-M and Argo robots are driving the newest Andromeda-D automated system through drones. She just entered the Airborne Forces, actively and, as they say, successfully mastered there. It would be very strange to make a decision and take it to Syria, to local troops, where there is a huge risk of suddenly finding a system in the hands of others. I think that our generals have everything in order with common sense.

It is impossible not to notice that publications on the Internet about the achievements of Russian designers and the military in creating robotic systems of the battlefield and automatic control systems for military equipment and troops appeared in electronic networks on the eve of the visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin to the Moscow Region exact Klimovsk mechanical engineering. There the head of state was shown the most promising developments of the national defense industry, including the Advanced Research Fund. That organization, which is precisely engaged in including combat robots, UAVs, reconnaissance and control systems, electronic warfare and other combat support complexes. And the institute itself is the creation and testing of all complexes of domestic small arms. Not only a variety of assault rifles, machine guns, pistols, grenade launchers - all firing weapons with a caliber of up to 45 mm, including special and silent ones. A serious discussion took place on the further development of these weapons and systems in order to reliably ensure the security of our country and its allies.

So for advertising Russian robots and Russian control systems, which, through drones, command Syrian troops on the battlefield from Frunze Embankment, from the National Center for Defense Management of the state, special thanks to the network trolls. It is a pity that this advertisement, to put it mildly, is unreliable. First of all, in essence, we do not lead the Syrian army, it has its own commanders. And the fact that Russia has the technical and technological capabilities to see in Moscow what is happening in Syria is already an open secret. Domestic generals regularly and openly, without hiding anything, show on the screens of the National Center, and also through the central television channels, videos from their UAVs, reconnaissance aircraft and satellites, which constantly monitor the military operation of the Russian VKS to destroy the Islamic State’s terrorists the earth.

This operation does not need false and inaccurate advertising misinformation, even if it is created with good goals that are not completely clear to normal people. A noble cause — namely, our military grouping in Syria is engaged in this — we need honesty and truth. They have our army.
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  1. +32
    6 February 2016 15: 31
    Why I did not officially react to this publication in the domestic Ministry of Defense, I do not know.
    Since BAD it does not comment ...
    1. +14
      6 February 2016 15: 33
      Quote: svp67
      Why I did not officially react to this publication in the domestic Ministry of Defense, I do not know.
      Since BAD it does not comment ...

      well ... you comment .. laughing Hi Seryoga! hi
      1. +7
        6 February 2016 15: 36
        This operation does not need false and inaccurate advertising misinformation, even if it is created with good goals that are not completely clear to normal people. A noble cause — namely, our military grouping in Syria is engaged in this — we need honesty and truth. They have our army.


        We stood on that, we will stand and will stand.
        1. +8
          6 February 2016 16: 17
          Quote: cniza
          We stood on that, we will stand and will stand.

          All right! Russia simply does not make sense to hide something. Placed C-400 - said; threw SU-35C announced and shown! And if some new combat module is being tested, then this is certainly not a problem for Israel or anyone else! Let the management of the state drones from the territory of Germany and the SGA cover up!
          1. +19
            6 February 2016 17: 24
            Quote: Tol100v
            Quote: cniza
            We stood on that, we will stand and will stand.

            All right! Russia simply does not make sense to hide something. Placed C-400 - said; threw SU-35C announced and shown! And if some new combat module is being tested, then this is certainly not a problem for Israel or anyone else! Let the management of the state drones from the territory of Germany and the SGA cover up!

            Something I don’t remember that the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the transfer of T-90 tanks to Syria (for the Syrian army). This news was learned from journalists. If I'm wrong - correct.
            1. +3
              6 February 2016 19: 20
              Quote: Алексей_К
              Something I don’t remember that the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the transfer of T-90 tanks to Syria (for the Syrian army)

              And I don’t remember something, that our Russian Ministry of Defense would generally announce the transfer of equipment purchased by another state ...
            2. +4
              6 February 2016 19: 40
              Something I don’t remember that the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the transfer of T-90 tanks to Syria (for the Syrian army). This news was learned from journalists. If I'm wrong - correct.


              I agree. I do not see anything surprising that any robotic target designation systems are being tested and refined in Syria. If I had been some kind of a jack, what NIipturs-burs-resource, I immediately ran to the Moscow region, knock out a business trip to test the "product".
      2. +13
        6 February 2016 15: 37
        And the fact that Russia has the technical and technological capabilities to see in Moscow what is happening in Syria is already an open secret.

        Fear and shake!
        Soon we will invent a platform for the neutralization of (selectively) tolerant sexual minorities, who will you be drafting into the army? laughing
      3. +2
        6 February 2016 15: 42
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        Hi Seryoga

        Hi hi
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        well ... you comment ..

        Well, I’m not a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, so I’m allowed to ...
        1. +4
          6 February 2016 15: 44
          Quote: svp67
          Well, I’m not a representative of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation,

          served, but we, "former" do not happen! wink
          1. +9
            6 February 2016 17: 13
            - portray Russia as a monster
            - quarrel Russia with Israel

            I think that Poroshenko and his egg-scent will soon start shouting that Russian soldiers cannot be found in Donbass, because there are Russian combat robots - invisible, controlled directly from the Kremlin, where Putin and Medvedev play "robots" at their leisure

            But seriously, it’s good if even a part of what is described in the article turned out to be true. Let the iron fight, enough for our soldiers to die and get injured

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            2. +1
              6 February 2016 18: 38
              Even upset that this is a fake. I was glad for our defense industry and the Defense Ministry when I read about their use in battles in Syria.
              And then a bummer ....
              If this were true, then it was said that these robots were already being manufactured, put into the troops and the tactics of control and interaction were more or less worked out, much less from Russia! And now, running in battle.
              And so, in real life, this is not. In a real battle. This is bad... request
            3. +1
              6 February 2016 20: 47
              but in the Donbass there are military Cheburashki.
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        2. +3
          6 February 2016 17: 42
          Quote: svp67
          Well, I’m not a representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, so I’m allowed to ...

          wassat
          1. +7
            6 February 2016 18: 14
            hi
            Not a bad photo of the T90, I hope they show their best qualities in those parts ...
            And here is another interesting photo of the "Syrian birdhouses", how the Syrians learned to deal with the ATGM TOU

            1. +3
              6 February 2016 18: 22
              Quote: svp67
              And here is another interesting photo of the "Syrian birdhouses", how the Syrians learned to deal with the ATGM TOU

              I haven’t seen anything in action yet. That would be from the barmalei a video about a miss.
              1. +3
                6 February 2016 18: 33
                Quote: Kars
                I haven’t seen anything in action yet. That would be from the barmalei a video about a miss.

                Well, here more from the Assad’s video is required ...
                1. +4
                  6 February 2016 18: 44
                  Quote: svp67
                  Well, here more from the Assad’s video is required ...

                  but to me personally it’s not important, I’m looking at everything - and so far the photo of the black ones with a birdhouse hasn’t come across either.

                  by the way yes T-72 with open MTO
                  1. +2
                    6 February 2016 18: 51
                    Quote: Kars
                    T-72 with open MTO

                    What for? With this position of the MTO roof, engine cooling only worsens, so the meaning is not clear ...
                    1. +2
                      6 February 2016 18: 59
                      Quote: svp67
                      What for? With this position of the MTO roof, engine cooling only worsens, so the meaning is not clear ...

                      why I don’t know. but I don’t remember whether or not there was a discussion of a photo of the Pakistani T-80UD from the exercises, also with an open roof
                      1. +3
                        6 February 2016 19: 07
                        Quote: Kars
                        there was a discussion of the photo of the Pakistani T-80UD

                        How to explain, the principles of the cooling system are different for the T72 and T80ud tanks and for the T80ud tanks the MTO open roof does not affect the operation of the system, there are also nuances here, it requires the installation of a special adapter ...
                      2. +2
                        6 February 2016 19: 21
                        Quote: svp67
                        How would I explain that the principles of the cooling system are different for the T72 and T80ud tanks and for the T80ud the MTO's open roof does not affect the operation of the system

                        It’s a pity that you weren’t in that discussion. And so they deduced that the roof is open as it is known
                      3. +2
                        6 February 2016 20: 50
                        Quote: Kars
                        as it is known 6TD is the engine from a moped

                        More likely from the shot down "Junkers"
              2. +4
                6 February 2016 19: 04
                Shoals usually don’t lay out - not camille, they’ll tear down pieces of 20 tanks, but they will tear off a tower at one — be sure that only this tank will be photographed.
      4. +39
        6 February 2016 16: 27
        Exclusive photo of the delivery of an attempt to deflect from the call of a combat robot aboard a submarine to be sent to Syria laughing
        1. +7
          6 February 2016 17: 54
          Quote: Thrall
          An exclusive photo of the delivery of an attempt to deflect from the call of a combat robot aboard a submarine to be sent to Syria laughing

          Class - you + good
          If they sent someone (or something) they would send Uranus-9. Already laid out a promotional video about him, but oh well.

          Armament:
          30mm automatic gun 2A72 and coaxial 7,62 machine gun, anti-tank guided missiles "Attack" - 4pcs, mounts for installing portable hand grenade launchers - 6pcs. The system of counteraction to the GOS anti-tank systems and armor should keep the SVD. The machine is a beast shorter - so even if it’s a fake, it was clear that most likely it is - Russia has the opportunity to finish ISIS with robots Yes
        2. +11
          6 February 2016 18: 04
          Quote: Thrall
          Exclusive photo of the delivery of an attempt to deflect from the call of a combat robot aboard a submarine to be sent to Syria

          boat surfaced in a precisely defined area
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    2. +8
      6 February 2016 15: 37
      The tricks are old ... and tricky!
      DEBKAfile, allegedly linked to Israeli military intelligence

      Everything is clear here! Read our members of the forum from the gallant Israel .... bully
      1. +10
        6 February 2016 15: 54
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Everything is clear here! Read our members of the forum from the gallant Israel ....

        Our colleagues from Israel will answer that DEBKAfile is not much different from yellow sites and newspapers, they should lie like a puddle in a puddle. And who to believe? request
      2. +10
        6 February 2016 17: 18
        MIKHALYCH1, have you ever noticed that "our members of the forum from valiant Israel" appear as if on command? Just don't tell me that they were all on duty ...........
        1. +2
          6 February 2016 19: 55
          Quote: sabakina
          MIKHALYCH1, have you ever noticed that "our members of the forum from valiant Israel" appear as if on command? Just don't tell me that they were all on duty ...........

          bully I can even call them! wink I know the password! (Then the truth is, my problem begins ..)))
      3. +2
        6 February 2016 19: 55
        How they all defeated in Lebanon in 2006, BGG), a typical offensive surrender operation in the style of ukrov
    3. +7
      6 February 2016 15: 44
      Yes, the news agency DEBKAfile, however, like all other Israeli propaganda, is built solely on lies and provocations. However, they are not one of the same series and our resources like RBC Echo of Moscow Rain.
      Quote: article
      including the latest prototypes of robots developed by domestic scientists. We are talking about the robotic systems "Platform-M" and "Argo".

      Or maybe it was tested in combat conditions by the Iranian military robotic platforms?

      1. +5
        6 February 2016 15: 50
        The Iranian strike UAV Shahed-129 is just such now "operating" in Syria.
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        2. +2
          6 February 2016 18: 27
          Hrenase, the Iranians have a drone! We have none at all! No wonder they planted the Raptor, made a good drummer, this will not happen soon, judging by the absence of any information.
          PySy: I thought that if the Iranians planted the Raptor with the help of our electronic warfare, they would share the info. However, the bad dumb ....
          1. +1
            6 February 2016 20: 44
            I thought that if the Iranians planted the Raptor with the help of our electronic warfare, they would share the info. However, the bad dumb ....

            Or it is not advertised, "there are no bad ones."
            Iran, South Ossetia / Abkhozia, Crimea - places of "official" familiarization of our specialists with "theirs" UAVs. And there are also "unofficial" ones - like Novorosiya, Iraq, Afgan, etc.
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            2. +2
              6 February 2016 23: 41
              Then where are our drummers? The more backward Iranians have created and we are not? Wonders....
              1. +1
                7 February 2016 06: 57
                Quote: mitrich
                Then where are our drummers?

                According to the director general of RSK MIG Sergey Korotkov, the development of an unmanned strike aircraft Skat has been discontinued. By the decision of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, according to the results of the relevant tender, the Sukhoi was selected as the lead developer of a promising strike UAV.
                Waiting, sir! hi
                1. +1
                  7 February 2016 09: 43
                  Discontinued, discontinued! Only periodically incomprehensible UFOs with a (characteristic profile) scare people in the air of our vast country))
      2. +6
        6 February 2016 15: 57
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Or maybe it was tested in combat conditions by the Iranian military robotic platforms?
        Then they would have been covered by the Hezbalons, and not by the Russian paratroopers, as the disrespectful "Debka" writes. P.S. And OUR then, it will be better. soldier
        1. +2
          6 February 2016 16: 07
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          Then they would have been covered by the Hezbalons, and not by the Russian paratroopers, as the disrespected "Debka

          Well Debka she is Debka laughing
          By the way, the Lebanese in Syria.
          1. +17
            6 February 2016 16: 12
            By the way, Erdogan
            1. +2
              6 February 2016 16: 25
              Quote: quilted jacket
              By the way, the Lebanese in Syria.

              Quote: Thunderbolt
              By the way, Erdogan

              Well, what about the fact that Debka could look in military uniform and it doesn’t mean anything, for example, our volunteers in Syria to the left and to the right of the Syrian are like Hezbollah Lebanese.

              Or such a "Syrian"
              1. +2
                6 February 2016 21: 00
                Or such a "Syrian"

                Or such a First Lady of the SAR Asma Asad.
              2. 0
                6 February 2016 21: 00
                Or such a "Syrian"

                Or such a First Lady of the SAR Asma Asad.
    4. +10
      6 February 2016 15: 49
      Our native MO bullshit EXACTLY does not comment!
      However, "there is no smoke without fire", therefore it is absolutely clear that individual platforms and / or elements of combat robotic / unmanned systems in Syria are tested and used! And this is NORMAL, how else!?!?
      1. +9
        6 February 2016 15: 55
        Quote: olegfbi
        therefore, it is absolutely clear that individual platforms and / or elements of combat robotic / unmanned systems in Syria are tested and used! And it is NORAL, how else!?!?

        Naturally, this is completely normal and even useful, not only are military equipment tested in combat conditions at the same time as terrorists are being destroyed.
      2. +2
        6 February 2016 17: 24
        Quote: olegfbi
        However, "there is no smoke without fire"


        You are an optimist, however! And it is very gratifying that not everyone has yet lost faith in their "brains".
    5. +6
      6 February 2016 19: 25
      There are no robots. There are remotely controlled combat vehicles. Drones of various purposes and capabilities, including for squeezing the enemy out of well-defended fortified areas and block posts.
    6. +1
      6 February 2016 19: 26
      Robot (Czech robot, from robota - forced labor) - an automatic device. Acting according to a predetermined program and receiving information about the outside world from sensors (analogues of the senses of living organisms), the robot independently carries out production and other operations, usually performed by humans) [1] [2]. At the same time, the robot can either have a connection with the operator (receive commands from it) and act autonomously.
      1. +1
        6 February 2016 21: 01
        Why are these stupid semantic arguments?
  2. cap
    +3
    6 February 2016 15: 38
    "So for the advertisement of Russian robots and Russian control systems that use drones to command the Syrian troops on the battlefield from the Frunzenskaya Embankment, from the National Defense Control Center of the state, special thanks to the network trolls."
    That’s why Fake was launched in order to bring in ground troops faster, as soon as the Russians and that look Syria are freed for Assad. What a nightmare am They forgot that aliens help Putin, otherwise success.
    Yet? "The Russians have grenades of the wrong system."
    1. +15
      6 February 2016 15: 47
      Quote: cap
      an advertisement for Russian robots and Russian control systems that, through drones, command Syrian forces on the battlefield from Frunze Embankment, from the National Defense Management Center of the state,

      Moreover, with the help of this technique and the support of the Russian paratroopers, as follows from the message, the Syrian troops managed to take a strategic height of 754,5. At the same time, six Platform-M complexes and four Argo robots participated in the attack


      They attached a photo

      1. +3
        6 February 2016 17: 43
        but for me it’s like that ...
      2. mihasik
        +4
        6 February 2016 18: 01
        Quote: svp67
        They attached a photo

        Cool picture. I love crabs, they are tasty and high-calorie, especially with vodka laughing
    2. +1
      6 February 2016 17: 51
      For the "grenades" - smiled good
  3. +15
    6 February 2016 15: 40
    "The message about the use of Russian combat robots by the Syrian army is also absurd."

    Let's think about it. what

    "Firstly, they are not even in service with the Russian army itself."

    This is not an argument, why not test them in real life before?

    "Secondly, why should our country test them precisely in Syria and precisely as part of the Syrian government armed formations?"

    Why not? And where to test them, if not as part of the ATS army, or are we officially participating in a ground operation?

    "In addition, those who have learned this and who know how to do it, that is, Russian specialists, should control domestic robotic devices. And they, as you know, do not participate in ground operations of the Syrian troops."

    And why did the author decide that they were not controlled by our specialists? MO did not officially declare? Recently, one of the specialists died in our country, officially training the military ATS in the supplied weapons, but really? request

    "I think our generals are fine with common sense."

    I also think so, so I hope that such complexes will be rolled around in the ATS. Yes
    1. +1
      6 February 2016 16: 06
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "The message about the use of Russian combat robots by the Syrian army is also absurd."

      Let's think about it. what

      ...

      yes, the cat cried for arguments, but what slogans
      This operation does not need false and unreliable advertising misinformation, even if it is created with some good goals that are not quite clear to normal people. A noble cause - namely, this is what our military group in Syria is doing - honesty and truth are needed. Our army has them
    2. +1
      6 February 2016 16: 08
      I fully agree, given that the claimed work on the T-90 robotics may require the development of control systems in combat conditions, which is most likely done in Syria on smaller installations ...
    3. +2
      6 February 2016 17: 30
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "The message about the use of Russian combat robots by the Syrian army is also absurd."

      Let's think about it.

      "Firstly, they are not even in service with the Russian army itself."

      And the Ministry of Defense reports that robots are being introduced everywhere in our army since the end of 2014. Here is the link: http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12011844@egNews
    4. +2
      6 February 2016 18: 32
      Quote: Vladimirets
      such complexes are just in the ATS
      The finishing stage of the product, I think, is well reduced.
  4. +2
    6 February 2016 15: 42
    The fact that the Syrian army was transmitting something is nonsense. And why, ours could not experience what is fiction?
  5. +4
    6 February 2016 15: 46
    Interesting material, the refutation of the participation of our robotic systems is based on the supply of Hezbollah weapons, and one and the other has not been proved by any facts. It’s just that somewhere, someone wrote something.
    For example, the material on the delivery of missiles to Hezbollah by the Israeli portal can be explained, old "friends", but the binding of our robotic systems and their use only on the contrary raises questions after the article read.
    1. +1
      6 February 2016 16: 19
      Quote: APASUS
      Interesting material, the refutation of the participation of our robotic systems is based on the supply of Hezbollah weapons, and one and the other has not been proved by any facts. It’s just that somewhere, someone wrote something.
      For example, the material on the delivery of missiles to Hezbollah by the Israeli portal can be explained, old "friends", but the binding of our robotic systems and their use only on the contrary raises questions after the article read.

      yeah, a strange article - our hezbola is definitely not armed, it’s quite enough for Iran, and to launch with a trailer that ours will not test anything there (which is ridiculous) - it turns out that if they test it, they’ll arm it
  6. +9
    6 February 2016 15: 49
    The article somehow seems to always and in every way justify itself to the idiots. And Nitsche that the entire American military has spread around the world like mold, and that no one forces them to make excuses.
  7. +3
    6 February 2016 15: 57
    It’s a pity that this advertisement, to put it mildly, is unreliable

    really sorry. It would be necessary to test more weapons in Syria in combat conditions.
    And Novorossia should not be forgotten at the same time.
    1. +9
      6 February 2016 16: 09
      Quote: kunstkammer
      It’s a pity that this advertisement, to put it mildly, is unreliable

      really sorry. It would be necessary to test more weapons in Syria in combat conditions.
      And Novorossia should not be forgotten at the same time.

      Here are our main "robots" ... Russian spirit and fortitude!
  8. +4
    6 February 2016 16: 25
    As many have noticed here, the news from Debka is not worth a penny. Nothing to talk about.
    1. +3
      6 February 2016 16: 27
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      As many have noticed here, the news from Debka is not worth a penny. Nothing to talk about.

      So we will talk ....
    2. +7
      6 February 2016 16: 37
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      As many have noticed here, the news from Debka is not worth a penny. Nothing to talk about.

      Yes, all your press is a "mouthpiece of lies" the only thing that can be trusted and then with caution is what she writes about the internal situation in Israel.
      For example, another Israeli hysteria.
      General Amidror: Russia supplies Hezbollah with weapons to destroy Haifa and Ashdod
      This was stated by Major General Jacob Amidror, who, until recently, served as head of the National Security Council of Israel and military adviser Benjamin Netanyahu.
      According to Amidror, it is, above all, about the Kornet and Yakhont missiles.
      http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2016/01/20/general-amidror--rph-snabzhaet-
      hizballu-oruzhiem-dlya-unichtozheniya-hayfi-i-ashdoda /
      1. +4
        6 February 2016 16: 57
        Israel is afraid that Hesbollah will be more technological ..! And Syria will turn into one of the most powerful countries in the region! Russia contributes to this in every way ... (after the Ottomans crossed the red line of the bastard))) So Aron, robots and everything else .. It is possible! Strengthen your dome, or negotiate normal with Russia! (And do not try to deceive! All your little things have been known for a long time ...)))) hi
        1. +1
          6 February 2016 18: 06
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          Israel is afraid that Hesbollah will be more technological ..! And Syria will turn into one of the most powerful countries in the region! Russia contributes to this in every way ... (after the Ottomans crossed the red line of the bastard))) So Aron, robots and everything else .. It is possible! Strengthen your dome, or negotiate normal with Russia! (And do not try to deceive! All your little things have been known for a long time ...)))) hi

          Meehan, are you out of habit talking nonsense or for a salary? Which Syria is a powerful country? Even if it survives, it will remain a country with a ruined economy and an exhausted population, and this is at best t / e if Syria does not break up into several enclaves. Today, even with the active assistance of Russia, the Assad government controls less than 20% of the territory of the ATS. The rest is controlled by ISIS, the Kurds and various organizations that, although they are at war with each other, are not at all ready to obey Damascus. Kurds, among other things, are not yet an Arab ethnic group.
          As far as Hezbollah is concerned, this is unpleasant, but it is a problem in front of all Lebanon. "Hezbollah" is part of the ruling coalition in Lebanon, which means that its actions against Israel are a war, but "In war, as in war."
          1. +1
            6 February 2016 20: 04
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Which Syria is a powerful country? Even if it survives, it will remain a country with a ruined economy and an exhausted population, and this is at best t / e if Syria does not break up into several enclaves. Today, even with the active assistance of Russia, the Assad government controls less than 20% of the territory of the ATS. The rest is controlled by ISIS, the Kurds and various organizations that, although they are at war with each other, are not at all ready to obey Damascus. Kurds, among other things, are not yet an Arab ethnic group.
            As far as Hezbollah is concerned, this is unpleasant, but it is a problem in front of all Lebanon. "Hezbollah" is part of the ruling coalition in Lebanon, which means that its actions against Israel are a war, but "In war, as in war."

            Well, let's see Aron ...! I advise you to strengthen your dome! And we will make Syria a powerful country ... You will still pay her indemnities for the genocide! And Palestine too! Even if you again scatter around the world ... We will find! hi
            1. -1
              6 February 2016 20: 43
              Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX

              Well, let's see Aron ...! I advise you to strengthen your dome! And we will make Syria a powerful country ... You will still pay her indemnities for the genocide! And Palestine too! Even if you again scatter around the world ... We will find! hi

              Well, let's see Mikhalych. Thanks for the advice. By the way, before making Syria a powerful country, maybe it’s worthwhile to pull up medicine in Russia, so that it would be possible not only to treat Moscow and St. Petersburg with dignity? Raise your own pharmacology so that fakes from China and India are not bought? To build resorts in Crimea, so that 6 million Russians would not go to Turkey and Egypt every year? Yes, just to gasify the province, and 40% of housing in Russia is not gasified. I'm not talking about roads. Or put Mikhalych on this, the main thing is to pump $ 100 billion into Syria and hope that the Syrians will appreciate it?
              1. -1
                7 February 2016 01: 08
                Quote: Aaron Zawi
                ...
                Well, let's see Mikhalych. Thanks for the advice. By the way, before making Syria a powerful country, maybe it’s worthwhile to pull up medicine in Russia, so that it would be possible not only to treat Moscow and St. Petersburg with dignity? Raise your own pharmacology so that fakes from China and India are not bought? To build resorts in Crimea, so that 6 million Russians would not go to Turkey and Egypt every year? Yes, just to gasify the province, and 40% of housing in Russia is not gasified. I'm not talking about roads ...

                you have not only math sucks, everything is in milk
          2. +4
            6 February 2016 21: 35
            Today, even with the active assistance of Russia, the Assad government controls less than 20% of the territory of the ATS.

            True, almost 70% of industry is located on them, and ISIS controls mainly the desert.
          3. 0
            6 February 2016 23: 39
            > Which of Syria is a powerful country?

            Let's see what we get in reality.
            Stories that tree of life located on Mount Ararat known from the ancient Syrian chronicles, known from the Sumerian chronicles, and from the Jewish Old Testament.


            So it turns out that you are already 4 years stuffed Syrians into brothers drinks
  9. 0
    6 February 2016 16: 28
    Maybe just that defect blurted out too much, so they decided to step on her tongue!
  10. +1
    6 February 2016 16: 31
    Please help me find on the Internet a photo of a crest flying over Syria on an airplane carpet, wearing Russian-made armor, Chinese slates, and so that he yelled something like "Allah ...." while dodging air-to-air missiles of the Russian MIG ...
    1. +7
      6 February 2016 16: 40
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Please help me find on the Internet a photo of a crest flying over Syria on an airplane carpet, wearing Russian-made armor, Chinese slates, and so that he yelled something like "Allah ...." while dodging air-to-air missiles of the Russian MIG ...

      Well, I found .. Then the flies will arrive!))))

      And here's another ...))))
      1. +3
        6 February 2016 17: 53
        ... hahel with Turks forever brothers lol
      2. 0
        6 February 2016 17: 53
        That Poroshenko, that Mikhalych1, both are so similar as their native drinking companions.
        1. +3
          6 February 2016 19: 49
          Quote: swag
          That Poroshenko, that Mikhalych1, both are so similar as their native drinking companions.

          Hooked ..?))))) wassat
          1. -2
            6 February 2016 22: 12
            No, it’s just that sometimes, looking at you, you begin to regret that you closed the LTP.
    2. +1
      6 February 2016 17: 33
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Please help me find on the Internet a photo of a crest flying over Syria on an airplane carpet, in Russian-made bronics, Chinese shales

      ask our pilots who work there, send the original ... Yes
  11. +3
    6 February 2016 16: 33
    The leader of the attack to the heights in real time commanded the battle, the combat robot operators, while in Moscow, conducted an attack, each saw his own battlefield and the whole picture
    We heard something similar about the operators of shock UAVs, which were thousands of kilometers away. from controlled devices.
    I see how serious people in uniform are already laughing at this publication, ironic in my opinion

    You can ironize as much as you like, but if such a fact really happened, then this news does not bring anything good for stubborn Atlantists in uniform.
  12. +3
    6 February 2016 16: 38
    And I would deliberately spread such rumors, and support them with additional "throwbacks". Let our "partners" twitch, worry, tighten intelligence - and our counterintelligence frolic. There is nothing nicer than catching spies looking for a nonexistent black cat in a dark room.
    During the operation of our VKS in the ATS, mattresses already caught so many surprises ... It is easy to believe in this.
  13. +4
    6 February 2016 16: 40
    This is what! We still have robots that devour these mentioned robots and carry stolen oil bypassing Turkey. But they were not given Assad, because, firstly, they themselves are needed, and secondly, in addition to this, they can not only shoot at moderate opposition, but also feed on their babies and newspaper ducks. Also, in trials, attacks were often noted on cute representatives of the free, democratic press. And also eats, you bastard, civilians. Therefore, they are now being tested in the Arctic to attack Sweden. After a nuclear strike against it (the rehearsal has already passed, according to British intelligence), they will take out from there European values ​​to corrupt Putin. For further resale on the London Stock Exchange and laundering unearned income. That's it, gentlemen.
  14. +2
    6 February 2016 16: 48
    Noodles on the ears are necessary so that the inhabitants do not resent the increase in military spending, so as not to sympathize with Russia and for similar, purely utilitarian purposes.
  15. +6
    6 February 2016 16: 51
    dear, I read this article and I will tell you exactly, the author of this article distorts the facts, 1) there are no words about the paratroopers, 2) without the pilots they were just reconnoitring targets, to adjust the battery fire of the self-propelled guns to well-protected positions at altitude, 3) about the Syrians only said the altitude was taken without loss, 4) who controlled the robots were not words at all, 4) "Andromeda-t" was used as an assumption, 5) why should the MO should refute or confirm data about this battle?, as well as about others, do you know a lot about the "work" of the helicopter group? the Syrians declared the loss of fighters at the height was 6 fighters, the rest retreated
  16. -2
    6 February 2016 17: 03
    "At the test site, President Vladimir Putin and other leaders appreciated the prototypes of combat robots. Photo by Reuters" Well, I don’t like it when people put noodles on their ears, I hope the president also noticed! This miracle perched itself on the ATV and fastened itself with a lanyard so as not to crash? Fighting robot damn it! laughing Well, why don’t you think about washing grandmas?
    (Photo clickable)
    1. +6
      6 February 2016 17: 09
      Quote: Bayonet
      Was this miracle perched on a quad bike itself and screwed on itself? Battle robot damn it!

      This protection of the President recorded ...! you never know what ...))))
    2. +2
      6 February 2016 18: 58
      But in another way, on a good bump, the skeleton will fly off laughing
      1. 0
        7 February 2016 06: 39
        Quote: Viktor2410
        But in another way, on a good bump, the skeleton will fly off

        And here it was not necessary to fence this humanoid doll!
    3. -1
      7 February 2016 14: 39
      Quote: Bayonet
      Battle robot damn it!

      I hope the disadvantages are not for me, but for those who made this ostentatious doll! A sane person is not being led to such tricks! hi
      1. 0
        7 February 2016 16: 17
        Quote: Bayonet
        I hope the disadvantages are not for me, but for those who made this ostentatious doll! A sane person is not being led to such tricks! hi

        The minus is YOU, because the president was shown not a robot, but a control system that allows you to accurately control the applied effort to each drive, each joint of the robot.
        1. 0
          7 February 2016 19: 01
          Quote: 11 black
          , which allows you to accurately control the applied force to each drive, each joint of the robot.

          Do not give out your fantasies for the truth! I understand your patriotic feelings, but you need to know the measure!
          "Klimovsk, Russia, January 20, 2015. (!) Russian President Vladimir Putin looks at a combat humanoid robot" avatar "at the Central Scientific Research Institute of Precision Engineering (TsNIITOCHMASH). The robot, remotely controlled by the operator, shot a target with a pistol and made circle around the race track on an ATV. The robot can be used for demining and other dangerous, but not requiring particularly delicate operations (!) tasks (more accurate data in the fund are not provided yet). At the same time, the robot “is not intended to run with a machine gun ": For this there are other tracked and wheeled platforms that successfully solve similar problems, ..."
          1. 0
            9 February 2016 16: 54
            Quote: Bayonet
            A robot remotely controlled by an operator shot a target with a pistol

            You know how many servos must be used in concert to accomplish this task, but the control system must accurately "understand" the operator, and the main thing is to transmit the exact force to each joint, and this is not easy ...
            Quote: Bayonet
            The robot can be used for mine clearing and other dangerous, but not requiring particularly delicate operations (!) Tasks (more accurate data in the fund have not yet been provided).

            More precisely, it will be possible to use "Hands-manipulators" and the aforementioned control system - no one will make an android - this is understandable - they will put two hands on, for example, "Nerekhta" or "Cobra" and it will be what is needed hi
          2. 0
            10 February 2016 05: 58
            http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kbcP2JzA9o0 и не трепись.
  17. +6
    6 February 2016 17: 20
    And the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in early 2015 announced that at the end of 2014-2015. the first serial multifunctional robotic systems entered service in military units of all types and branches of the military .. (information taken from the site mil.ru. Here is a link for "those who do not believe in military robots in the Russian army" http://function.mil.ru/ news_page/country/more.htm?id=12011844@egNews.
    The question is, why Russia can not use these robots in Syria? Testing at the training ground is one thing, and testing in real battles is the highest rating for military equipment.
    Why so hopelessly belittle our military equipment, as the author does. It turns out that the author believes that any military equipment can be used in Syria, but not our "underdeveloped" robots.
    Strange conclusion!
    1. +3
      6 February 2016 17: 32
      Quote: Алексей_К
      Why is it so hopeless to belittle our military equipment, as the author does.

      Perhaps she is being prepared for work on another continent ..?
  18. +4
    6 February 2016 17: 34
    Absurdity is the message about the use by the Syrian army of Russian combat robots. Firstly, they are not even in the arsenal of the Russian army itself.

    It is strange if they are not in service, from which they are already sold for export?
    Here is a link to Rosoboronexport.
    http://roe.ru/rus_pr/rus_pr_15_12_30.html
    And here it goes and shoots.
  19. +3
    6 February 2016 17: 36
    I see how serious people in uniform are already laughing at this publication, ironic about me, saying, why does a military journalist retell all this nonsense, which is nothing more than the violent fantasy of a certain author who practices in creating information fakes.
    "The tale is a lie, but there is a hint in it, a lesson for good fellows" And it's worth listening, information is never superfluous.
  20. +1
    6 February 2016 17: 41
    Of course, there is not yet any evidence of the use of combat robots in Syria, but it seems to me that Syria is a large military training ground for testing military equipment, this should be used, without anger the president said: "Syria is like a training ground", which means that it is a big the likelihood of a combat robot test has taken place
    1. 0
      6 February 2016 17: 55
      Quote: Achilles
      Of course, there is not yet any evidence of the use of combat robots in Syria, but it seems to me that Syria is a large military training ground for testing military equipment, this should be used, without anger the president said: "Syria is like a training ground", which means that it is a big the likelihood of a combat robot test has taken place

      Israel is just nearby ...! They are afraid of Arafat's robots!
  21. 0
    6 February 2016 18: 00
    And Israel seems to have long been abhorring blaming Russia for deliveries of what its enemies can do. So the stuffing is not impressive
  22. 0
    6 February 2016 18: 02
    but on the other hand! We want and supply. We supply tanks, aircraft, air defense, MLRS and robots will supply. Our business. You look at them
  23. +4
    6 February 2016 18: 05
    Hekate (dr. Greek Ἑκάτη) - the ancient Greek goddess of moonlight, the underworld and all the mysterious. She was also the goddess of witches, poisonous plants, and many other witchcraft attributes.
  24. +6
    6 February 2016 18: 24
    Guys! "God beat me with bast shoes", but he worked at the military-industrial complex. And I know all this "crap" from the inside. I did it, I handed it over to the "military representatives". 13 years of work, your division, mother !!! The warriors took out the soul before accepting it. BUT! they are great! they got their way from us! "Either as we say, or not at all!" And that's it! Military order-LAW FOR CONTRACTOR! And they did it, and they did it, and to what extent ...
    1. +2
      6 February 2016 18: 32
      Quote: LÄRZ
      Guys! "God beat me with bast shoes", but he worked at the military-industrial complex. And I know all this "crap" from the inside. I did it, I handed it over to the "military representatives". 13 years of work, your division, mother !!! The warriors took their souls out before you accept. BUT! they are great! they got their way from us! "Either as we say, or not at all!" And that's it! Military order-LAW FOR CONTRACTOR! And they did it, and they did it, and to what extent ...

      Well, now Israel, it will vulgarize everything ... lol In general, well done guys! Russia is holding on to you! hi
      1. +4
        6 February 2016 19: 30
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        In general, well done guys! Russia is holding on to you!


        Thank you for your kind word, MIKHALYCH! It is, after all, as you know, "a kind word and the cattle are pleased." True, now I work not for the defense industry complex, but ... in short, I am doing the PIK reactor complex, Gatchina. The work is "mom, do not cry!" The swamp is work, but we are working. soldier
      2. -1
        6 February 2016 20: 31
        Well, now Israel, everything will be debased ... lol

        Her ... Today is Saturday, Orthodox Jews do not work - Shabbat.
      3. +2
        6 February 2016 22: 19
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Zakazz military- LAW FOR A CONTRACTOR!

        Mikhalych! 1 1000 years of your life! I’ve worked for military representatives for 15 years, then for 13 more years for GAN (GosAtomNadzor) And ... and I don’t know what to say. May God give you health and happiness !!!
  25. 0
    6 February 2016 18: 40
    Well, if so they want to believe in it, then they don’t need to interfere, let them continue. But there is no ban on the use of robots? what
  26. +1
    6 February 2016 19: 47
    They decided everything: the Saudis (DB) supply us with modern Omerikansky testing equipment directly to the test site, bypassing sanctions. Here is the demand from them.
  27. 0
    6 February 2016 20: 29
    I didn’t like the first photo in the article. Robot on the pier is nonsense. Baton was lit with the admiral on board, and the attack of the closed latrine at the root, somehow not ice.
  28. hartlend
    +1
    6 February 2016 21: 11
    Were there robots or not the layman could not check. But if there are robots, they need to be tested in real conditions, to identify and eliminate shortcomings. Everything can be.
  29. +1
    6 February 2016 21: 11
    Quote: mitrich
    Hrenase, the Iranians have a drone! We have none at all! No wonder they planted the Raptor, made a good drummer, this will not happen soon, judging by the absence of any information

    ... Using satellite communication antennas, the enemy intercepted information passing through the communication channel from the drone to the ground control station. This interception was facilitated by the fact that the transmitted information was not subjected to any encryption. Thus, anyone can connect to the transfer, receive intelligence from the drone and use it for their own purposes. To intercept video information, the enemy used the SkyGrabber program, which made it possible to save the entire stream of video data to a computer as easily as downloading a pirated copy of a movie from the Internet. This program has the status of ShareWare, it costs only 26 dollars and it was originally created for downloading films and music from the Internet ... - http://www.dailytechinfo.org/military/859-uslugami-amerikanskix-bespilotnikov-po
    lzuyutsya.html
  30. +1
    6 February 2016 23: 00
    Quote: svp67
    Why I did not officially react to this publication in the domestic Ministry of Defense, I do not know.
    Since BAD it does not comment ...

    Kill all the people!
  31. 0
    7 February 2016 09: 56
    Such articles are touching, all of a sudden some well-versed teapot, in an impulse to prove that these achievements of the military industry are true, will lay out a "technical military secret" and preferably with reference on the ground. The author is clearly a "Chinese" spy haha))
  32. 0
    10 February 2016 05: 27
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kbcP2JzA9o0
  33. 0
    10 February 2016 05: 28
    Military acceptance "Soldiers of Steel" look.