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Media: the American army, accustomed to fighting with the rebels, will not be able to resist Russia and China

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The current American army, which in recent years has been training exclusively on rebels in the Middle East, will not be able to withstand the modern armies of Russia and China, writes US News & World Report.




"While the United States for years focused on large-scale operations against insurgents in the Middle East, the army of opponents developed," - quotes the article RIA News.

“The American forces set themselves the task of conducting battles in dusty, dirty, and uncertain wars on the streets of Iraq and Afghanistan, which stimulated the development and production of lighter military equipment,” the author notes. “Such vehicles include anti-mine vehicles, for example, MRAP, unmanned aerial vehicles and other equipment.”

“Meanwhile, Russia has begun work on a program to strengthen and improve its military (forces). The country has invested in new high-tech Tanks and airplanes that can launch several missiles simultaneously, as well as deadly S-400-type air-to-air systems deployed in Syria, ”the publication emphasizes.

In addition, “over the past few years, China has been developing its armed forces to ensure the strengthening of its fleet и aviation».

At present, China, according to the author, “is becoming one of the determining factors ensuring the development of the region”.

The US military also failed to respond promptly to the strengthening of the IG grouping.

“At the same time, the IS uses maneuvers that are characteristic of waging“ ordinary war ”, even more so than other extremist groups that the United States encountered. In addition, the IG combines (these maneuvers) with rebel tactics to block the border with Iraq, using the civil war in Syria and the withdrawal of the US military from Iraq in 2011 year, ”the author writes.
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  1. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 4 February 2016 10: 26 New
    13
    The current American army, which has "trained" in recent years exclusively on the rebels of the Middle East, will not be able to withstand the modern armies of Russia and China,

    The Americans and the rebels are not very successful. Afghanistan is an example where the Yankees fully control only the territory of their bases.
    1. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 4 February 2016 10: 29 New
      37
      Why doesn’t it work? The Americans mass produce them!
      1. iConst
        iConst 4 February 2016 10: 59 New
        +9
        Quote: vyinemeynen
        Why doesn’t it work? The Americans mass produce them!
        - laughing

        Yeah...

        But, seriously, the Americans are at a dead end: they are already tired of banging rockets worth half a lemon of green, jolly jeep with a heel of militants, and it’s unprofitable even for them.

        From the word "ground operation", despite the screams that in 1991 the American army finally got rid of the "Vietnamese syndrome", everyone, from private to senator, breaks through a cold sweat.

        Therefore, their "ground operations" now boil down to sitting in enclaves surrounded by meter-long walls, video cameras and a swarm of drones and forcing puppet governments to conduct hostilities. As in Afghanistan and Iraq.

        And then they manage to incur losses.
        1. WKS
          WKS 4 February 2016 11: 18 New
          +6
          Quote: iConst
          From the word "ground operation", despite the screams that in 1991 the American army finally got rid of the "Vietnamese syndrome", everyone, from private to senator, breaks through a cold sweat.

          A ground operation, let's say in Syria, means more than one thousand severed heads from the bodies of the American military. I have no doubt that the cunning leaders of the Caliphate will hand these dismembered bodies to their families for burial. A month after the start of such an operation, there will be such an electoral "noise" in the United States that it will not seem like little. Any real politician or military man predicts this situation and by itself is covered with cold protesters sweat.
          1. Idiot
            Idiot 4 February 2016 14: 00 New
            +2
            Americans don't have bodies, they have torsos
          2. Idiot
            Idiot 4 February 2016 14: 00 New
            0
            Americans don't have bodies, they have torsos
        2. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 4 February 2016 11: 50 New
          +1
          there are no warriors from them, there is no pivot in them, there is no concept of the Motherland .... there are false concepts about nat.interest of someone and the loot, that's all ......
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 4 February 2016 12: 17 New
            +5
            Quote: Alexey-74
            there are no warriors from them, there is no pivot in them, there is no concept of the Motherland .... there are false concepts about nat.interest of someone and the loot, that's all ......


            Not quite.

            After all, they had beautiful pages with the Japanese and in Korea.
            The main thing here is what to fight for.
            Defending their land, they would have had heroes, no doubt


            As for weapons and the development of the armed forces, we have fundamentally different approaches with them.

            With them, the army and military operations are primarily business.
            We have a condition for the survival of the country.

            Therefore, in their weapons they introduce everything that is necessary and not necessary in order to raise the price, and in our country - marginal efficiency at minimal cost.

            The same goes for their operations around the world. They will become unprofitable for those who earn on conflicts and military expenses - they will begin to curtail their presence


            1. Sid.74
              Sid.74 4 February 2016 18: 08 New
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              Quote: bulvas
              After all, they had beautiful pages with the Japanese and in Korea.

              This is not about the operation "cottage" on the Aleuts, write ... where the Americans first bombed the island for two weeks and then landed a landing ... with an epic finale.

              Parts of the allies managed to lose more than 300 people killed and wounded. Thirty-one American soldiers died because of the so-called "friendly fire", sincerely believing that the Japanese were shooting, another fifty were shot in the same way. About 31 soldiers were knocked out of action due to frostbite of the feet and "trench foot" - fungal infection of the feet, which contributed to the constant humidity and cold.

              In addition, the American destroyer "Abner Reed" was blown up on a Japanese mine, killing 47 people on board and wounded more than 70.

              "In order to knock them (the Japanese) out of there, we ultimately used over 100 troops and a large amount of materiel and tonnage," admiral Sherman admits. The balance of power is unprecedented in the entire history of world wars.
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        3. Altona
          Altona 4 February 2016 12: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: iConst
          Therefore, their "ground operations" now boil down to sitting in enclaves surrounded by meter-long walls, video cameras and a swarm of drones and forcing puppet governments to conduct hostilities. As in Afghanistan and Iraq.

          --------------------------
          The last major battle was with the Iraqi army, but this required such a strain of forces and in the end the capture of Baghdad was accompanied by the bribing of the Iraqi general, otherwise they would have put unnecessarily soldiers in Baghdad. One Basra drank blood to the British like the Brest Fortress, fighting already behind the attackers.
      2. Pirogov
        Pirogov 4 February 2016 11: 29 New
        +4
        Why doesn’t it work? Americans mass produce them! ............................................. ........................
        ...................... Here's how to deal with children after that!
      3. Mitek
        Mitek 4 February 2016 11: 59 New
        +9
        Amers and will not fight with us. They all understand perfectly. They will take us from within, like the USSR. Through Oval, Fluffy Venediktov, Misha 2% and other scum.
    2. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 4 February 2016 10: 30 New
      +7
      the US army, accustomed to fighting the rebels, will not be able to confront Russia and China
      at least a dozen articles have recently had a similar headline and content!
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 4 February 2016 10: 34 New
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        Quote: Pravdarm
        the US army, accustomed to fighting the rebels, will not be able to confront Russia and China
        at least a dozen articles have recently had a similar headline and content!

        Well, I’m wary of something about the praises of the enemy, and Pentagon warriors are asking for these miracles, but they prefer to fight even with the rebels by someone else’s hands.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 4 February 2016 10: 48 New
          44
          You can argue for a long time on this issue ... But here is one of the reasons why it is better not to mess with Russia! ))) laughing
          1. Igor F.
            Igor F. 4 February 2016 10: 56 New
            -3
            So it is clear .. The Americans do not even make their own rocket engines, but order from Russia .. And as for the Armata tanks, which are beyond competition, Russia is the most powerful in terms of technologies for assembling combat vehicles for at least 20 years ahead. And also fighters "MiG-37" also have no equal .. Therefore, it is better so .. Do not mess .. The mattress covers themselves will be more complete ..
            1. KBR109
              KBR109 4 February 2016 13: 45 New
              -1
              RD-180 engines are stupidly cheaper. Not sure how they flew before? ABOUT ARMAT - LET'S BE SILENT. Do you know anything about it besides advertising? It is high time to exclude the words “have no equal” from the language as a purely propagandistic cliché. Harmful by the way.
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 4 February 2016 18: 09 New
                +2
                Quote: KBR109
                RD-180 engines are stupidly cheaper. Do not know how they used to fly?

                The Americans actually bought the RD-181 and NK-33 from us. Not at all because of "cheaper", but because of the not surpassed efficiency of our engines, the ratio of its useful power to the power released during fuel combustion. And this is the merit of our brilliant Soviet scientists!
          2. 222222
            222222 4 February 2016 11: 13 New
            +2
            MIKHAN (9) Today, 10:48 ↑ New
            You can argue for a long time on this issue ... But here is one of the reasons why it is better not to get involved with Russia! ))) "" "" "" "
            ... When and to whom were the LESSONS OF HISTORY useful? "...

            Expect reorganization in the US Armed Forces ..powerful ..
            and take their appropriate measures
          3. iConst
            iConst 4 February 2016 11: 47 New
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            Quote: MIKHAN
            ... why it’s better not to mess with Russia! ))) laughing

            -
            There are women in Russian villages
            They are affectionately called "women"
            Elephant on the run will stop
            And the trunk will be torn off to him ...
            smile

            - Brush. Our women are the best in the world ... good
            1. Kachesgm
              Kachesgm 4 February 2016 13: 59 New
              0
              I hope they don’t bite me, but the picture with the marines has a very uncomfortable grip - for so long, ours will not be dragged. Yes, and they go on the sand, which does not make the task easier ...
          4. gla172
            gla172 4 February 2016 11: 54 New
            +6
            Quote: MIKHAN
            But here is one of the reasons why it is better not to mess with Russia! )))


            And one more....
        2. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 4 February 2016 10: 55 New
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          Quote: vlad66
          Well, I’m wary of something about the praises of the enemy, and Pentagon warriors are asking for these miracles, but they prefer to fight even with the rebels by someone else’s hands.


          Well, there is no particular praise here, rather a pragmatic calculation with an eye to "give me more money!" But as a litmus test, I consider the speeches of our "liberals" and pseudo-patriots "who shout with one voice that it is necessary to cut spending on the military-industrial complex. This is an indicator, as soon as they change the subject, it means we need to worry, but for now everything is going well. It is not for nothing that they are all in every gear, as one repeats the same thing: we have enough nuclear potential, we don’t need tanks and planes, give money to grandmothers! This means we are going the right way!
        3. dauria
          dauria 4 February 2016 11: 58 New
          +2
          . But even to fight with the rebels, the mattress prefers with the wrong hands.


          But it is necessary to learn from them, not to laugh ... Our soldiers cannot pay for the mistakes of our diplomats
      2. Barnaul, Altai
        Barnaul, Altai 4 February 2016 11: 01 New
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        Trend, sir !!!
        laughing laughing laughing
      3. Sharapov
        Sharapov 4 February 2016 11: 44 New
        +3
        Shapkozakidatelny, NOT ELSE. Or deliberately scare Americans - to make it easier for money to be allocated to the US military-industrial complex. Well, I understand that we can compare the achievements of recent years in the development of the army - maybe we will be no worse. Again, a certain combat experience is available. An important plus for us was that Serdyukov (and the company) were sent in three cheerful letters from the Moscow Region. The oppositions are ridiculous when you consider that the nuclear potential is approximately equal. About the Navy sadly silent.
    3. Lissyara
      Lissyara 4 February 2016 10: 44 New
      +5
      In! In!
      I would still wonder where the money from gerych go?
      1. jjj
        jjj 4 February 2016 10: 54 New
        +3
        About China, we also cannot say that it is a courageous army. In fact, China has not fought wars of extermination. And in terms of mentality, let's remember the famous "101st Chinese warning" ...
    4. Kent0001
      Kent0001 4 February 2016 10: 50 New
      +1
      Afghanistan has never been conquered in its entire history. The problem is that Americans and companies are imposing their life principles where they are not acceptable in principle.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 4 February 2016 12: 09 New
        +3
        ... he wasn’t conquered just because no one needs it: well, different spirits are intermingled there - to whom do they interfere, who needs their stones? ..
        1. your1970
          your1970 4 February 2016 12: 51 New
          -1
          Nobody needs it, huh ..
          Nikolai 2 -2 of the campaign, Lenin during the Basmach period, Stalin hooked during the occupation of Iran, Brezhnev-Gorbachev (1979-1989), Yeltsin when the embassy was taken out .. and that's all for 100 years
          The British twice, the Americans, the period is a little more ...
          Total over the past 160 years, someone constantly hanging out in Afghanistan ..
          I forgot the Germans, though they didn’t carry out military operations, so the tribes incited to wars ...
          1. Dim Bes
            Dim Bes 4 February 2016 16: 37 New
            +2
            Quote: your1970
            Nobody needs it, huh ..
            Nikolai 2 -2 of the campaign, Lenin during the Basmach period, Stalin hooked during the occupation of Iran, Brezhnev-Gorbachev (1979-1989), Yeltsin when the embassy was taken out .. and that's all for 100 years
            The British twice, the Americans, the period is a little more ...
            Total over the past 160 years, someone constantly hanging out in Afghanistan ..
            I forgot the Germans, though they didn’t carry out military operations, so the tribes incited to wars ...



            You forgot Alexander the Great to the full set.
            1. your1970
              your1970 4 February 2016 18: 32 New
              0
              Shura of Macedonia was there a little earlier. repeat
              You are not surprised by this fact? There are countries around Afghanistan that have not occupied (at least partially) for more than a hundred years.
              And from Afghanistan they made some kind of entrance yard ...
              Yards are fighting off everyone, but everyone is again drawn there ...
    5. Flat5160
      Flat5160 4 February 2016 10: 54 New
      0
      They even controlled these territories due to the fact that they paid off from the leaders of the clans located around these bases.
    6. marlin1203
      marlin1203 4 February 2016 11: 11 New
      +3
      "About ... fired a flash!" laughing But seriously, then everything is normal with their financial support, both quantitatively and qualitatively. No worse than ours for sure. So nefig relax. All the same, more than 300 million countries and the military budget they have more than our state ... soldier
    7. vkl-47
      vkl-47 4 February 2016 11: 51 New
      +1
      the American military fed and raised bl @ this fucking @ nigil. 2 opinions are being folded up either they are fucking @ naughty or they realize and control. what am I sharing
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    9. bocsman
      bocsman 4 February 2016 12: 09 New
      +1
      Just by looking at history, it is safe to say that the Pindo army of this is never ready to fight a truly powerful enemy. Technique, yes, never living force. Is a bandit and a robber capable of openly fighting a strong enemy? So from around the corner in the back, or with a knowingly weak who is not able to respond adequately. And examples of this are countless! So the media are lying again, like there was an army, but damn it, it relaxed. It's just that those who were considered easy prey took and showed their muscles and the "great democratizers" tore the sphincter. For Russia, war has always been a forced way to defend its homeland, its people. And for pindo this is a way to earn more dough. Even during the Second World War, nothing threatened US territory in the Pacific theater of operations.
      So the crap will be wherever possible and for more, the gut is thin!
    10. Rumata
      Rumata 4 February 2016 15: 53 New
      -1
      Who did it? Studio example
  2. prabiz
    prabiz 4 February 2016 10: 26 New
    +1
    Americans do not fight with the strong - the spirit is not enough! negative
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 February 2016 10: 34 New
      +2
      And they are fighting with the rebels so-so!
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 4 February 2016 11: 50 New
        +3
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        And they are fighting with the rebels so-so!

        I do not quite agree, namesake .. hi
        When they entered Iraq, they demonstrated what they could do using a less significant part of their military power.
        Another thing is that they do not know how to fight for the Idea - all their actions are reduced to deriving economic benefits. And where the question arises "Not a step back!" .. there they have a self-preservation instinct that overrides all thoughts of the lamb wassat
    2. Vita vko
      Vita vko 4 February 2016 10: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: prabiz
      lack of spirit

      Rather, motivation. Too few fools willing to kill and die for money are born there. Maybe that's why they are so intensively engaged in genetic engineering.
  3. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 4 February 2016 10: 27 New
    +4
    "The US military also failed to respond in a timely manner to the strengthening of the IS group."

    Because they had no time, at that moment they were just strengthening the IS grouping.
  4. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 4 February 2016 10: 27 New
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    The current American army, which has "trained" in recent years exclusively on the rebels of the Middle East, will not be able to withstand the modern armies of Russia and China
  5. Lanista
    Lanista 4 February 2016 10: 36 New
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    I laughed for a long time when I got my hands on the material about the training by the Americans of the Ukrainian, hmm, army. The Americans conscientiously tried to teach them what they themselves can do - that is, the war with the rebels: the tactics of patrolling, organizing counter-guerrilla operations, etc. When the Ukrainians explained to them that the hostilities in Donbass are a full-fledged war with the front line, offensive and defensive operations, maneuvering of units and formations, the Americans did not believe, saying: “But you are conducting an anti-terrorist operation against the rebels there - this is exactly what we will and teach! "
    As a result, this whole "training program" was covered with a copper female genital organ, because what the Americans can do is kind of inapplicable in the Donbass (accordingly, the Armed Forces do not need), and what the Armed Forces needs are not the Americans.
    1. Igor F.
      Igor F. 4 February 2016 11: 14 New
      +2
      So, it is, I ask, why then would the would-be ukropolitiks call their "war" ATO (anti-terrorist operation)? .. "Terrorists" - who is this? Miners, metallurgists, salesmen, bakers, plumbers, doctors and other peaceful professions? Or "terrorists" are children, pensioners, women, disabled people? .. Actually, it's right if the mattress instructors misunderstood them .. am
    2. Rumata
      Rumata 4 February 2016 17: 06 New
      -2
      Material in the form of a dialogue between an American and a Ukrainian? Or is it an audio recording of training? Or was it invented a minute ago?
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  6. kapitan92
    kapitan92 4 February 2016 10: 43 New
    +5
    So against the rebels !? Let's remember the story.
    "...... On December 16, 1944, at the beginning of the operation, German troops managed to break through the front of Anglo-American troops in a sector of 80 km and capture 30 American soldiers and officers. By the beginning of January 000, the position of the Allies in the Ardennes remained On January 1945, 6, Churchill sent a message to Stalin, in which, in particular, he wrote: “There are very heavy battles in the West ... I will be grateful if you can tell me if we can count on a major Russian offensive on the Vistula front or somewhere else during January ... "On January 1945, 12, ahead of schedule, the Red Army launched an offensive on a broad front from the Baltic Sea to the Carpathians. The commander of German forces in the West, Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, was forced to withdraw from Western Front 1945th SS Panzer Army, and then 6 more divisions and send them to the East. The German operation in the Ardennes ended in failure. ".....
    1. theodore rasp
      theodore rasp 4 February 2016 11: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: kapitan92
      On December 16, 1944, at the beginning of the operation, German forces managed to break through the front of the Anglo-American forces on a section of 80 km and capture 30 American soldiers and officers.


      A little clarification. The Anglo-American forces in this sector of the front had an overwhelming advantage in manpower and equipment.
      1. Nikita_Shmik
        Nikita_Shmik 8 February 2016 12: 58 New
        0
        The overwhelming advantage in manpower and equipment of the Anglo-American troops was at the end of the battle, but in the beginning in the Ardennes there were, if I am not mistaken, only 2 infantry divisions.
    2. your1970
      your1970 4 February 2016 13: 04 New
      +2
      On those balances of forces and means ... the Americans would not even intend to attack ..
      Volkssturm, the complete lack of support from the air — and even in such a situation broke the USA. And if there was a Wehrmacht of the 1940-1941 model, the animal would have come to the northern amer .... Which, incidentally, is confirmed by Dunkirk
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 4 February 2016 14: 31 New
      -3
      for kapitan92:
      Do not distort. The Germans were advancing for a week. German offensive choked
      already December 24th.
      And on January 7, Hitler ordered all troops from the Ardennes to retreat.
      "On 7 January 1945, Hitler agreed to withdraw all forces from the Ardennes,
      including the SS-Panzerdivisionen, thus ending all offensive operations ".

      By January 12 (the beginning of the Soviet offensive), the Germans had already suffered complete
      defeat in the Ardennes.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 4 February 2016 18: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: voyaka uh
        for kapitan92:
        Do not distort. The Germans were advancing for a week. German offensive choked
        already December 24th.
        And on January 7, Hitler ordered all troops from the Ardennes to retreat.
        "On 7 January 1945, Hitler agreed to withdraw all forces from the Ardennes,
        including the SS-Panzerdivisionen, thus ending all offensive operations ".

        By January 12 (the beginning of the Soviet offensive), the Germans had already suffered complete
        defeat in the Ardennes.

        Can you tell me the correlation of forces, Germans and Americans? And why did the Germans suddenly, despite their smaller numbers, nevertheless transfer troops to the Soviet-German front? It seems to me that the answer is obvious, they were afraid of Russians, much more!
  7. mpzss
    mpzss 4 February 2016 10: 46 New
    +4
    As our poet Nikolai Ivanovich Gnedich said:
    Friend blows are not as dangerous as enemy kisses.
    Therefore, do not relax!
  8. Alex66
    Alex66 4 February 2016 10: 47 New
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    Before the last wars in the Russian Empire and the USSR there were similar moods, how it ended (I mean the dead), everyone remembers. A friend serving, says that their conscripts are not taught anything, in terms of military training, they put things in order. So far, such reviews from conscripts are heard, we are not yet ready for war, since I don’t care about their problems.
  9. Mixweb
    Mixweb 4 February 2016 10: 49 New
    +3
    Now almost the entire American army, with the exception of some special forces, is focused on police operations. Therefore, before conducting a land operation, the Americans are trying to literally burn the enemy out with aviation. If aviation has blundered, and the army will come across organized resistance, then huge losses are guaranteed. Against bandits and Arabs, this scorched earth tactic works. This tactic will not work against the Russian or Chinese armies.
  10. izya top
    izya top 4 February 2016 10: 54 New
    +1
    the leitmotif in recent years they have one, we are weak, give more pennies
  11. triglav
    triglav 4 February 2016 11: 00 New
    0
    How could they have any other experience? Did they somehow excel in the Second World War? The Nazis surrendered to them in batches without a fight. And when it came to the point, they immediately asked for help. And now also. Who is the tail raised to? And who will follow them? If Frau completely loses her head, there is someone in Germany to make decisions. And the French will not cover the Americans precisely because those Americans. Crazy Balts? So they all have one and a half planes. Or will the entire population go to the "forest brothers"? Psya krevy? These can. But Russia has not yet settled with them for the 20s of the last century. So they will get theirs. Czechs? They will remember the grave of whose tanks the Germans fought in World War II. Romanians? These are still warriors. Moreover, Moldova will not support them. Hungarians have become much smarter lately. So the Americans have nothing to catch. And little by little NATO will cease to exist.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 4 February 2016 16: 09 New
      -1
      Why is everyone so obsessed with the experience of war? What is China's experience? In Russia, everything is slipping into the Great Patriotic War, whose experience has not been relevant for at least 40 years, and there were enough failures before and after, Japan, World War I, Finland, Afghanistan, Chechnya. Even here they remembered the Ardennes, three generations have already grown ..
      What is better than a great experience in local conflicts or its complete absence? Or is the experience in Georgia, Chechnya and Ukraine something better, Iraq or Afghanistan?
      1. dmikras
        dmikras 4 February 2016 20: 28 New
        -1
        About failures
        Japan stupidity betrayal to extend the database for another 3 months the result would be different
        First World Betrayal and Bribery Inside
        Finland, the tasks were completed, call the army at that time similar tasks would be performed?
        In Afghanistan, the main task of the troops is fulfilled, again, please name the country that would handle better given the counteraction from inside and outside
        Chechnya betrayed the army, it coped with its task even in those conditions
        At the expense of experience, too, the question is highly controversial if we speak for America
  12. Aitvaras
    Aitvaras 4 February 2016 11: 01 New
    -4
    I disagree with the Author. During Operation Desert Storm, in 1991 against the Iraqi army, the US Armed Forces acted very effectively, although the opponents were approximately equal in size. Then, the US Army showed greater success than Hitler's army in June-July, 1941 in the USSR.
    1. Themi30
      Themi30 4 February 2016 11: 09 New
      0
      But not better than Napoleon, and even the Mongols are completely inferior, and if you go deeper even more and compare them with the second raid of mammoths on wild monkeys in 15754 BC, the American army is noticeably lagging behind, mammoths did not have any losses
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    4. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 4 February 2016 11: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: Aitvaras
      I disagree with the Author. During Operation Desert Storm, in 1991 against the Iraqi army, the US Armed Forces acted very effectively, although the opponents were approximately equal in size.

      It’s difficult not to act effectively when you have overwhelming superiority in the air, all weapons are several generations ahead, reconnaissance from outer space, strike drones and cruise missiles))) The Americans won that war almost without any contact with the enemy. Where are the equal forces ??))))
      1. Aitvaras
        Aitvaras 4 February 2016 13: 33 New
        -2
        But Afghanistan and Vietnam, how so? There, after all, the forces were unequal. I think the matter is not only in the superiority of weapons, but also in fighting spirit. It seems the Russian general then said that this is how they defend their homeland.
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    5. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 4 February 2016 11: 59 New
      0
      In 1941, the Germans had an advantage in training personnel, in the presence of traitors in the high command of the Red Army, a technical advantage - in transport and communications. The Americans had about the same in Iraq, and the result with the events of 1941 is approximately comparable. Yes, and it is worth considering, I think that a quarter of a century ago, officers in the US Army still had experience in Vietnam, and to a large extent prepared for war with the USSR. Now the situation is different.
    6. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 4 February 2016 12: 08 New
      +8
      Sorry, of course, but take a closer look at the balance of power before starting the operation. If you read how the operation went, then I hope to look differently at the course of the company. The air company was quite successful, for many reasons and not about that now, and the ground operation was not graceful. Schwatzkopf, he commanded, is still khayut. There are so many mistakes and punctures, it’s not for nothing that I entered the textbooks, I need to know my mistakes. The ground operation took place in full accordance with the military charter of the army of americos - create threefold superiority, classical German theory, if I am not mistaken, formulated by Moltke at the dawn of the last century and laid the foundation for the military charter of the United States. Of course they are trying to change, but the system is complex and very very inert.
      In addition, the country of 'consumers' with an unreasonably developed sense of 'exclusivity' is not able to digest failures, they start howling right away.
      They are certainly a serious adversary, but until the first serious setback, they are not hardy in all respects .. although I sincerely hope this will not come to a test
    7. kos2910
      kos2910 4 February 2016 12: 23 New
      0
      Sun opponents were approximately equal
      Seriously? An army with obsolete Soviet equipment, with poor air defense, without space reconnaissance can be compared with the US army? And the successes of the Nazis mentioned for some reason. So how much did France capitulate?
    8. alexej123
      alexej123 4 February 2016 12: 53 New
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      Accidentally minusanul Sori. For comparing the US army with Hitler’s army, you HUGE PLUS.
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    10. almen1
      almen1 4 February 2016 12: 55 New
      +1
      Yes, and they burned the T-72 pretty well at a distance unattainable for them. Served 89-91 urgently. Having come from the army, many of their peers asked if we would be ready to fight? Almost everyone smiled back. This spring, to my brigade a guy got a job in Moldova, he served a year in the tank unit, it seems in Buryatia, and so he told me a lot of interesting questions. By the way, the crew took part in the tank biathlon from them (they didn’t see them for half a year). So we will win, I believe , but at what cost? And one of the components of this price will again be hat-making.
    11. Idiot
      Idiot 4 February 2016 14: 12 New
      -1
      To compare the effectiveness of the Wehrmacht of the 1941 model and the US army of any period is the same as to compare the soft and warm.
    12. Idiot
      Idiot 4 February 2016 14: 12 New
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      To compare the effectiveness of the Wehrmacht of the 1941 model and the US army of any period is the same as to compare the soft and warm.
  13. Lyton
    Lyton 4 February 2016 11: 05 New
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    They simply are not ready to die, hell knows where, I think in their states they will fight better, because they consider that land their own.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 4 February 2016 18: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: Lyton
      They simply are not ready to die, hell knows where, I think in their states they will fight better, because they consider that land their own.

      And they have a quarter of a billion weapons in their hands ..
  14. GEV67
    GEV67 4 February 2016 11: 10 New
    +2
    It is impossible to underestimate the enemy, this is a big mistake, this applies to all parties. All have disadvantages and advantages. But our military should often recall Suvorov and follow his science!
  15. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 4 February 2016 11: 15 New
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    If Russia + China, or Russia and China at the same time, it certainly cannot. laughing

    Interestingly, there is no small mark anywhere in US News & World Report "By order of the Pentagon?"

    Objectively - yes, the combat experience allegedly accumulated by the Americans in the war drawn by the Stoltenbergs and Co. will not help.

    There is no experience in countering the enemy with missile defense systems, new high-tech weapons, logistically organized and possessing large resources.
  16. Panabebis
    Panabebis 4 February 2016 11: 22 New
    +1
    One american
    I put my finger in the opa
    And pulled from there
    G * vna four pounds
  17. sl22277
    sl22277 4 February 2016 11: 23 New
    0
    All the wars that the United States has fought over the past decade have ended in complete failure. The Amers' thin bowel is thin. This speaks not only about orientation to special operations, counter-terrorism, police
    her or others. The name can be invented as much as you want ... This will not change the essence. Such qualities as Heroism, Courage, Sacrifice and Patriotism cannot be bought or borrowed. You need to live and be brought up with this from childhood, and not come up with an excuse for your failures, and to some extent crimes.
  18. HAEMHNK_1
    HAEMHNK_1 4 February 2016 11: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: 222222
    MIKHAN (9) Today, 10:48 ↑ New
    You can argue for a long time on this issue ... But here is one of the reasons why it is better not to get involved with Russia! ))) "" "" "" "
    ... When and to whom were the LESSONS OF HISTORY useful? "...

    Expect reorganization in the US Armed Forces ..powerful ..
    and take their appropriate measures


    This is +100500, do not underestimate the enemy. Especially such as SSh-P
  19. hartlend
    hartlend 4 February 2016 11: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    The current American army, which in recent years has been training exclusively on rebels in the Middle East, will not be able to withstand the modern armies of Russia and China, writes US News & World Report.

    You never know who writes, it’s also written on the fence. We need facts that no one will discover.
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 February 2016 11: 47 New
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    Our "Hurray" shouts for the Motherland, and the striped ones fight for money. That makes all the difference
  21. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 4 February 2016 11: 53 New
    +2
    Yes, they will not protect their land and patriots no and there were no wars on their land and we have every second patriot
  22. Stinger
    Stinger 4 February 2016 12: 17 New
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    The current American army, which in recent years has been training exclusively on rebels in the Middle East, will not be able to withstand the modern armies of Russia and China, writes US News & World Report.

    Writes correctly. Anyone who is armed to the teeth with every conceivable weapon will "smash" detachments that have neither aviation, nor electronic warfare equipment, nor heavy weapons. Chase every farmer with a rocket for 100 thousand dollars and show pictures on CNN. And even then the result is zero.
  23. engineer74
    engineer74 4 February 2016 12: 22 New
    +2
    At the same time, IS is using maneuvers typical of "conventional war"

    If you believe that former officers of the Sadamov National Guard steer the battlefield in the IG, then the ghost of the Soviet Army of the 70-80s model drives the Americans in minus ...
  24. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 4 February 2016 12: 30 New
    0
    When they will already begin to openly write that Isil is the brainchild of the United States and they act in tandem!
  25. silver_roman
    silver_roman 4 February 2016 12: 46 New
    +1
    This line in the context of the article does not apply to the truth:
    The US military also failed to respond promptly to the strengthening of the IG grouping.

    IG - PMC states. They could not miss the appearance of the IG in principle. It's like saying that mom missed the birth of a baby!
  26. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 4 February 2016 13: 03 New
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    The American army actually "trained" in 2003
    at the largest at that time (and having combat experience)
    Regular Army of the Middle East - Army of Saddam Hussein.

    And how can you practice at a larger army? - World
    to start a slaughterhouse "for training purposes"? belay

    No army in the world now has the experience of fighting
    with another large regular army.
    Russia "chases the Papuans" in Syria, the Americans - in Iraq,
    Israel is in Gaza ...
  27. Hello
    Hello 4 February 2016 13: 07 New
    -2
    Media: the American army, accustomed to fighting with the rebels, will not be able to resist Russia and China

    It's time to cook hats wassat
    As I understand it, the Russian and Chinese armies are accustomed to fighting a serious enemy, and not against rebels such as Georgia, Chechen women, ISIS or Uyghurs. Well, after such serious campaigns, it is better for Americans to be silent in a rag because they only fight against rebels. wassat
    By the way, why are those with whom Americans call the rebels fighting and those with whom the terrorists are fighting Russia? It seems they are all from the same organization. wink
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 4 February 2016 14: 33 New
      +1
      Beguiled again! Was it in our press headlines about the rebels at Dubrovka? About the "rebels" at Avtozavodskaya? Or in yours (in the broad sense)?
      Do we have Bin Laden Avenue and Omar Mule Square in the capital?
      1. Hello
        Hello 4 February 2016 16: 35 New
        -2
        Quote: engineer74
        Beguiled again! Was it in our press headlines about the rebels at Dubrovka? About the "rebels" at Avtozavodskaya? Or in yours (in the broad sense)?

        And what did the Israeli press write about the rebels on Dubrovka? This is the number.
        Quote: engineer74
        Do we have Bin Laden Avenue and Omar Mule Square in the capital?

        And we do not, but you are moving away from the topic, how are things with the experience of the Russian and Chinese army? What serious opponent did you encounter?
        1. engineer74
          engineer74 4 February 2016 17: 06 New
          0
          You, as usual, very clearly separate RI, the USSR and Russia, respectively, the Soviet Army and the Russian, and I disagree with this - this is one country and one army. And there were no serious opponents, after the Second World War, precisely because of the power of our Army.
          About the press, it says "in a broad sense", be careful, I'm not an anti-Semite from any side, but the ethnic composition of the owners of Western media ... I didn't even mean the Israeli press, I hoped you understood ...
  28. South Ural
    South Ural 4 February 2016 14: 07 New
    +2
    Sorry, but such frivolous reasoning is similar to hatred. Their armaments are no worse, their numbers are larger, and they are better trained in brigade formation. We lived for a long time in the format of divisions and trained like that, until the stupid decision of Serdyukov’s time. And to fight with the partisans on their territory is not that a war with regular units. And quantitatively we have reduced the army, and with our allies (real) we are worse off. Let them have vassals, but vassals are tightly attached (an example of sanctions - they are not profitable for them, but they don’t remove them) ...
  29. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 4 February 2016 15: 00 New
    +1
    The current American army, which has "trained" in recent years exclusively on the rebels of the Middle East, will not be able to withstand the modern armies of Russia and China

    Americans never fight alone, and if the "American army" cannot resist, then the pro-American coalition can. As for the "rebels" - the Americans have different goals, they do not need victory, they need a war without end and edge, they need everyone against everyone. And when it was necessary to exactly win, the Americans calmly smashed the opposing armies, remember Yugoslavia, Iraq. Then our "experts from the General Staff" remember everything as one vangovali - "they will wash themselves with the blood of Americans, there are armies of ogogo, experienced, armed, motivated." They didn't wash, everything went well, they achieved their goals, they completed the tasks.
  30. afrikanez
    afrikanez 4 February 2016 15: 03 New
    0
    will not be able to withstand the modern armies of Russia and China, writes "US News & World Report".
    It is not clear what the hell they always run into rudeness?
  31. 4ekist
    4ekist 4 February 2016 15: 49 New
    0
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    The current American army, which has "trained" in recent years exclusively on the rebels of the Middle East, will not be able to withstand the modern armies of Russia and China,

    The Americans and the rebels are not very successful. Afghanistan is an example where the Yankees fully control only the territory of their bases.

    They need to train to fight in cauldrons, like "Illovaisk" ones.
  32. Barnaul, Altai
    Barnaul, Altai 4 February 2016 15: 53 New
    +1
    "at least a dozen articles were recently with a similar title and content" - and I replied:
    Trend, sir!
    is it necessary to minus for this? no, I'm not proud, but does someone like these headlines? Spy, get out of the ambush!



    Quote: Barnaul, Altai
    at least a dozen articles have recently had a similar headline and content
  33. atlantida04
    atlantida04 4 February 2016 15: 55 New
    +1
    the main thing is not to not evaluate them (sly-zadyady), they can lull our vigilance and come up with some good one.
  34. rJIiOK
    rJIiOK 6 February 2016 01: 27 New
    0
    Cho are you again proud and hysterical? The US Army cannot be underestimated.
    And the newsboy is bluffing. Such newspapers with such articles are needed by the US military-industrial complex in order to frighten the townsfolk and the government, so that you give more money for military programs.