Turkish Air Force announces highest alert level

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The Turkish command transferred the units of the Air Force to a special mode of service because of the "orange" level of alarm, reports TASS message of the Anatolian Agency.



"According to military sources, the level of alarm on the air bases under the command of the Air Force has been changed to orange," the agency said. No other details are given.

The newspaper Milliyet, in turn, noted that “in this way news about increasing Turkish vigilance aviation was semi-officially delivered to the whole world. ”

According to the newspaper, in Turkey "there are three main levels of alarm:" white "(low probability of attack)," yellow "(there is a probability of attack) and" red "(high probability of collision or war)."

However, “for the Air Force, an“ orange ”level is also being introduced, which, formally, means that a collision can occur at any moment, and that the forces need to be ready for defense and attack,” the newspaper writes.

Recall, on Saturday, the Turkish Foreign Ministry issued a special statement, which reported on the violation of the air border by a Russian plane. “Yesterday (29 January 2016 of the year) belonging to the Russian Aerospace Force alone Su-34 violated Turkish airspace. Before the violation, Turkish radar stations repeatedly warned Russian aircraft in Russian and in English, ”the report said.

The ministry also noted that in connection with this "the Russian ambassador was invited to the ministry, and he was strongly opposed and condemned."

Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov has denied the message of Turkish diplomats. “There were no violations of the Turkish airspace by the aircraft of the Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic. Statements by the Turkish side about the alleged violation of the airspace by the Su-34 Russian airspace - unfounded propaganda ", - he said.
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  1. +125
    31 January 2016 13: 35
    Cheap move! The main thing is to attract attention, and there the bibisi will sound that the Russians bombed Istanbul!)
    1. +91
      31 January 2016 13: 38
      I don’t know who is dumber than Erdogan or Poroshenko request

      Well, no matter what, our c400 is in constant combat readiness ...
      1. +102
        31 January 2016 13: 39
        Turks constantly violate air. space of Greece, for example! I wish I could come to an agreement with the Greeks and slam at least one Turk-fly! Although, of course, they won’t go for it!
        1. +76
          31 January 2016 13: 44
          I think you need to shoot down ... They just do not calm down! We shot down our attack aircraft .. Russia expressed concern ... Putin make up his mind, otherwise they will start to shoot down ours on the territory of Russia! We will stand under arms, if that!
          1. +33
            31 January 2016 13: 54
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Shot our attack aircraft

            actually a bomber
            1. +60
              31 January 2016 15: 06
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              actually a bomber

              And we have only "Mihanam" ... (all the same)!
              1. +74
                31 January 2016 15: 14
                Turks are about to enter Syria,

                At the same time, we’ll hook ours too, to raise the stench and to connect NATO

                Probably, the Qatari with the Saudis did not agree with Putin, they paid Edorgan to arrange a provocation.


                If so, a powerful answer is needed so that at once all desire to provoke is lost

                1. -33
                  31 January 2016 15: 50
                  I hope we have enough will not to use nuclear weapons against Turkey
                  although you really want to, if that ...
                  1. +25
                    31 January 2016 16: 34
                    Quote: remy
                    I hope we have enough will not to use nuclear weapons against Turkey
                    although you really want to, if that ...

                    how is it with your head, remy, since you want a nuclear war?
                    1. +17
                      31 January 2016 16: 52
                      The knot was tied up concrete, but Erdogan is very nervous and unpredictable, will break firewood and question the existence of Turkey as a state.
                      1. +20
                        31 January 2016 17: 26
                        He is a degenerate and possessed psycho like Hitler, which by the way looks like ...
                      2. -1
                        31 January 2016 23: 32
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        He is a degenerate and possessed psycho

                        There are some similarities.
                        Armenians are our people, although some of them sometimes behave like strangers.
                      3. +4
                        1 February 2016 00: 49
                        Scraptor
                        He is a degenerate and possessed psycho, like Hitler, whom he looks like by the way ...
                        It is these politicians who are chosen and put into power by US intelligence. Do not think that they are not controlled - they are very much controlled by US intelligence.

                        For example, A. Hitler was led into power by the American intelligence agent Ernst Hanfstaengl from November 20 of November 1922. Interesting is the circumstance that led to their acquaintance.
                        About a year before Hitler set up a beer coup (in Munich on 9 on November 1923 of the year), several curious personalities appeared on his horizon. And with them, and money, the origin of which historians can not determine. Financial streams to the Fuhrer flowed from many sides. In addition to French and English (Swiss) funds (...) and American money. All in the same 1922 year, when the search for new political figures began in Germany (...): for the change of objectionable politicians (...) no one was going to lead Hitler’s power. Almost nothing further was heard of him further than Munich.
                        Therefore, the US military attaché in Germany, Captain Truman-Smith, first met with other people: with former General Ludendorff (...) and Crown Prince Ruprecht. They told the American about the new rising star. On November 20 on November 1922, the captain met with the Führer (...) taking advantage of a rare occasion when an American intelligence officer came to him himself, Hitler offered himself as a "sword of civilization" in the fight (...) with Russia.
                        (...) Returning to Berlin, Captain Truman-Smith drew up a detailed report, which was sent by the embassy to Washington on November 25 of November 1922. (...) on the same day, a new contact agent from American intelligence was assigned to the future Fuhrer. The Nazi leader gave a pass to his next rally to the American, but Captain Truman-Smith didn’t go there himself, but sent his "friend". His name is Ernst Franz Zidgwick Hanfstaengl. The son of a successful art dealer, a German and a US citizen, he was born in Bavaria, and then graduated from Harvard University in 1909. (...) his lawyer was "turned out" by the Secretary of State of American President Theodore Roosevelt.
                        Old people. N. Who made Hitler attack Stalin. - SPb .: Peter, 2015. - 6368 sec. - S. 77.
                      4. +2
                        1 February 2016 07: 32
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        He is a degenerate and possessed psycho like Hitler, which by the way looks like ...
                      5. 0
                        1 February 2016 10: 42
                        The position of the Anatolian Turks is in no way connected with the personality of Erdogan (,, neutrality, in favor of Hitler, the Caribbean crisis, Cyprus ...). Turks are Turks!
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                    3. +23
                      31 January 2016 17: 15
                      As for, for example, Armenia, they have long been warned about the use of WMD against them if they attack it ...
                      Let the USA then, if they want to start a nuclear war, it will be their choice, just as it was necessary to choose allies for themselves.
                      If NATO fits into the Turks with conventional weapons, then at least the Baltic Limitrophs will disappear right away.

                      The president recently said that there is a terrible nuclear weapon.
                      In addition, no one on the Russian side indicated that the incident with the shooting down of the Su-24 in Syria was exhausted.
                      And even without regard to it, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Turkey already has too many questions ...
                      1. +5
                        31 January 2016 19: 33
                        As for, for example, Armenia, they have long been warned about the use of WMD against them if they attack it ...

                        Is it possible to refer to exactly who warned when warned, how warned?
                      2. 0
                        31 January 2016 22: 02
                        You can search in Google yourself, and not ask others about it.
                      3. 0
                        1 February 2016 01: 14
                        especially for you should store these links in your favorites? laughing
                    4. -2
                      1 February 2016 00: 55
                      Not really after Hiroshima, a nuclear war began.
                      IMHO it is necessary to give the commune once in the brain, so that there is no longer a desire to show off.
                      1. 0
                        1 February 2016 01: 25
                        If it’s not the USSR, bacteriological research would begin - Detachment 731.
                  2. +4
                    31 January 2016 18: 54
                    again some cons? where are the arguments? Do you have enough radioactive fallout?
                    our people do not like the truth!
                    here on the site only marshals do not care to your minuses
                    clearly written Enough will not apply!
                    deer !!!
                    1. +6
                      31 January 2016 19: 10
                      Quote: remy
                      again some cons? where are the arguments? Do you have enough radioactive fallout?
                      our people do not like the truth!
                      here on the site only marshals do not care to your minuses
                      clearly written Enough will not apply!
                      deer !!!

                      The point is not that someone is in favor of a nuclear strike against Turkey or against the world. It's just that your "thought" was so banal that it was even inconvenient to comment on it.
                      And we should work on respect for the interlocutors. Deserved minus.
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                      3. 0
                        31 January 2016 21: 43
                        here apparently different and so ugly too
                      4. 0
                        31 January 2016 22: 09
                        They do not like such questions ... wassat
                      5. +3
                        31 January 2016 23: 08
                        A perfectly possible scenario. (Not about deb_ls and pluses laughing ) This is highly advisable even out of sheer savings. Than to drive squadrons, fleets and tank columns, lose people and resources, strain the economy - just 2-3 tactical charges to critical centers and that’s it! Cheap, furious and effective. And silence is around, but in people there is good thinking))
                      6. 0
                        31 January 2016 23: 25
                        There is still a point in the fact that the southern group of forces in Syria without nuclear weapons may not fight back ... while Turkey is being slaughtered by everything that is non-nuclear from the North. smile
                      7. -4
                        31 January 2016 23: 44
                        Quote: Manul
                        It's not that someone is behind a nuclear strike on Turkey.

                        A nuclear strike on Turkey is simply necessary, after which no one will dare to shoot down the Russian Su-24 wherever they are.
                        A dream will come true, the strait will be ours, maybe it will already be not a strait.
                      8. +1
                        31 January 2016 23: 58
                        Yes, he was in general in Syria, and before nuclear weapons they really can soon be interrogated ... the Turks are quite greyhounds and crazy, and "made in Turkish" is common noun. Greyhounds should be immediately (as soon as possible) put (or laid down) in place, as the whole history of relations with these people actually leaned on foreign lands only in the 15th century, and immediately began to participate in the slave trade and remake other people's churches in their ...
                      9. 0
                        1 February 2016 00: 06
                        Quote: saturn.mmm
                        maybe it will already be not a strait.

                        You think how fukushima Will Guadeloupe wash off?
                    2. -1
                      31 January 2016 23: 40
                      Quote: remy
                      here on the site only marshals do not care to your minuses

                      Not true, some marshals are worried.
                  3. -1
                    31 January 2016 20: 22
                    already so many minuses
                    I have the impression that there are some inhuman people sitting here!
                    children, women, old people - are you ready to send everyone to the furnace?
                    Turkey has no nuclear weapons!
                    1. +5
                      31 January 2016 22: 11
                      TNWs are used for troops and military facilities in the first place.
                    2. +1
                      31 January 2016 22: 57
                      There are US nuclear bombs there.
                      1. -1
                        1 February 2016 11: 57
                        Here the keyword BOMBS. They still need to UNDERSTAND))
                        And this is unlikely soldier
                    3. +2
                      31 January 2016 23: 26
                      Don’t be so hot, Colonel. With regard to nuclear weapons, this is just one of the most striking examples of many cliches hammered into the minds. It's like a swastika. He said - "swastika" and "Hitler", "Nazi", "bad", "ayayay" immediately jumps out of the die store. Not everyone succeeds in THINKING and REALIZING. So it is with nuclear weapons. Immediately the guard. Those. if you take and stab a thousand people with a knife - it's okay. But if you cover a thousand with a warhead, then this is vandalism, horror, horror and nightmare!
                      So do not boil, Colonel. I understand you))
                      1. +1
                        1 February 2016 01: 29
                        especially if there are no extra 1000 knives (and they climb on you) and the threshold for using nuclear weapons is much lower when it is used in the open sea (by ship or island base) in a sparsely populated area or in the mountains, when everything is covered only in the bends of the valleys where there are epicenters ...
                        But if it is a hot desert, it’s still too big problems with dust
                    4. 0
                      31 January 2016 23: 59
                      Quote: remy
                      Turkey has no nuclear weapons!

                      It is very good.
                    5. +2
                      1 February 2016 00: 02
                      Quote: remy
                      already so many minuses
                      I have the impression that there are some inhuman people sitting here!
                      children, women, old people - are you ready to send everyone to the furnace?
                      Turkey has no nuclear weapons!

                      Calm down, nobody is going to bomb Turkey with nuclear weapons ... we are not Americans. And there is a nuance, the whole NATO bloc will have to be declared a war. Yes, Ankara, and not us, is the instigator of terror in the region. And frankly unceremonious policy towards the Kurds in Turkey, Syria and Iraq are not at all in favor of Turkey. Ankara is now itself a blacksmith of his misfortune. Erdogan suddenly decided that he had grasped God by the beard, and could cause any lawlessness. But it was not there.
                      For Russia needs peace in Syria. The United States is an appealing vassal.
                      And the EU is stopping the endless stream of refugees.

                      And Russia has a number of means without nuclear weapons to complicate the life of Turkey under Erdogan. S-400, for example, the removal of gas discounts for Turkish consumers, food and tourist blockade. The bombing of the fascist "gray wolves" of Erdogan in Syria and illegal oil traffic from IS ...

                      And if you look at the last statements of the Turks, it turns out that many rulers realized that soon the Arab spring could come to them ... with all the consequences. And they desperately want to meet with our leadership. They only apologize for Drying desperately not for they had spoken with three boxes, and at home evil fighters were waiting for them, whom they sheltered, and whom our aviation tolerates well.
                      1. 0
                        1 February 2016 01: 19
                        Well, Turkey would try to behave this way with the Americans ...
                  4. 0
                    31 January 2016 21: 41
                    I also hope that is enough
                  5. -2
                    31 January 2016 23: 27
                    Quote: remy
                    I hope we have enough will not to use nuclear weapons against Turkey
                    although you really want to, if that ...

                    That's right, we need to check the combat effectiveness of the "Voevoda".
                  6. +5
                    31 January 2016 23: 47
                    Quote: remy
                    I hope we have enough will not to use nuclear weapons against Turkey
                    although you really want to, if that ...
                    - All receipts of the newest weapons go to the Southern Military District, the SU-35S unit has been transferred to Syria, the A-50U is flying there almost on an ongoing basis. Why would Russia use nuclear weapons? What the Russians have around Turkey is above the roof. The fact that Turkey has 500 thousand soldiers does not mean anything with Turkey's almost complete absence of at least some effective air defense and with a slop fleet of aircraft, the most modern of which are the F-16 modernization of the early 90s. This means that the Turks have no superiority in the sky, which will almost 100% lead to defeat on the ground. And why in these conditions nuclear weapons? I do not understand. NATO will not support Turkey, they need Turkey as a victim, thanks to which it will be possible to successfully present Russia as an aggressive monster. This will be a successful information attack, thanks to which Europe can be forced to fork out 5% of GDP for defense. By the way, I am beginning to suspect why the Geyropians, or rather their elite, accept and tolerate migrants at home. Are they preparing a mobilization reserve ("cannon fodder") for a war with Russia? They will be pummeled without work, leaving their only job - serving in the army. True, the Arab warriors are so-so.
                    All the same, the West will not calm down. After all, I got it in the teeth 70 years ago, all is not enough.
                    1. +1
                      1 February 2016 01: 21
                      they need migrants for "multiculturalism," in short - to put white people down on everything ...
                2. +37
                  31 January 2016 15: 56
                  Quote: bulvas
                  Turks are just going to enter Syria

                  That non-ee ....No. This is the reason for the neurotic behavior of the Turks.
                  XA NUMX Guards Brigade CAA is actively moving along the border with Turkey, freeing villages from militants and cutting off supply routes from Turkey

                  And here's another ... feel
                  Russian Defense Ministry: the newest Su-35 fighters have been deployed to Syria

                  And further....
                  Jihadist civil strife in the west of Syria continues ...

                  It is reported that in the past 72 hours, the so-called militants of the “Islamic State” (organization banned in the Russian Federation) and their former allies from the Syrian branch of Al-Qaida, Jabhat Al-Nusra, repeatedly engaged in serious clashes in the western part of Damascus , in the area of ​​border crossings through the Lebanese-Syrian border Yarud Jarair and Yarud Karah. On Friday, the intensity of the fighting between the two terrorist groups near Yaroud Jarair increased sharply, which led to significant losses on both sides.http://www.almasdarnews.com


                  The Jabhat al-Nusra military camp has been captured by IS militants in the Ersal region on the Syrian-Lebanese border.

                  Pentagon: Actions VKS RF change the situation in Syria
                  https://russian.rt.com/article/145082

                  CAA released today:
                  1.Tannouza in Aleppo
                  2.Nawarah in northern Latakia
                  3.Al-Zinkahiya in Hama
                  4.Kabasin in Hama
                  5.Al-Buwayda in Hama
                  1. +16
                    31 January 2016 17: 01
                    Oh yes ... here's another ...
                    ATS Army took control of the strategically important height of Ruad http://lifenews.ru/news/182599

                    Terrorists will no longer be able to freely transfer forces and ammunition.
                    And further.... fellow
                    Nine Americans arrested in Saudi Arabia for terrorism http://lifenews.ru/news/182769
                    1. +6
                      31 January 2016 18: 16
                      Quote: Sid.74
                      Terrorists will no longer be able to freely transfer forces and ammunition.

                      - And also to drive oil.
                  2. +4
                    31 January 2016 19: 00
                    Such a plan for Russia, given by God-once every 70-100 years to force aggressors to peace and forgive everything later !!!! Again run up not childishly.
                3. +15
                  31 January 2016 17: 48
                  Erdogashi has his own interests - he is the north of Latakia and Aleppo wants to squeeze the Kurds in Afrin and Hasak. He already on the map drew these territories to Turkey, admired, and then the angry Russians broke off the entire Laf. Moreover, if before the drying of our drying, our people were ready to take into account the interests of the Turks and even somehow compensate for his losses, now they don’t even talk to them and it is believed that the interests of Turkey in Syria are over. Erdogan is not ready to put up with this and is trying to somehow put pressure on us. And the increased combat readiness of the Turkish aviation due to the fact that our 4 su35s were transferred to Syria - that is, the Turks became nervous. And the battles in Latakia are getting closer to the border. The Baboons have the last knot left - Kinsabba. They will not be kept and they will have to bring them down from Latakia. A CAA is not far from Kinsabba. hi
                  1. +9
                    31 January 2016 18: 34
                    Quote: g1v2
                    and here the evil Russians have broken off all their life.

                    Happenes.. feel
                    Fortune smiled at another leader of the "moderate" Commander Jaysh al-Fatah, Saudi Mohseni received KAB 500 from the VKS.
                    1. +8
                      31 January 2016 20: 04
                      Quote: Sid.74
                      Fortune smiled at another leader of the "moderate" Commander Jaysh al-Fatah, Saudi Mohseni received KAB 500 from the VKS.

                      For a long time he caught her, fortune, apparently did not know how she looked, now the photo shows the gurias - "luck" of the bearded.
                      1. +3
                        31 January 2016 21: 00
                        Quote: Tersky
                        "luck" of the bearded

                        Rather a surprise for the "bearded"! As in the song ..smile

                        And we challenge boredom
                        Just because
                        To live in the world without surprises
                        Impossible to anyone
                        Let good luck bad luck
                        Let fly up and down
                        Only in this way and not otherwise.
                        Only in this way and not otherwise.
                        Long live the surprise
                      2. +3
                        31 January 2016 22: 01
                        Quote: Sid.74
                        Sid.74 (1) Today, 21: 00 ↑
                        Quote: Tersky
                        "luck" of the bearded
                        Rather a surprise for the "bearded"! As in the song ..

                        And we challenge boredom
                        Just because
                        To live in the world without surprises
                        Impossible to anyone
                        Let good luck bad luck
                        Let fly up and down
                        Only in this way and not otherwise.
                        Only in this way and not otherwise.
                        Long live the surprise

                    2. +3
                      31 January 2016 22: 40
                      Quote: Sid.74
                      Commander Jaish al-Fatah, Saudi Mohseni received from the VKS KAB 500.

                      Namely, or what? This is a gift! From a wide Russian soul ...
                      I ask specialists from aviation to explain the specifics and tactics of using the su-35. Why are the restless fussed about?
                      1. +4
                        31 January 2016 23: 15
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        Namely, or what? This is a gift! From a wide Russian soul ...
                        I ask specialists from aviation to explain the specifics and tactics of using the su-35. Why are the restless fussed about?

                        ... by the way .. against the Su-35 can now lead an air battle more / less on an equal footing only F-22 .. hi
                4. +3
                  31 January 2016 20: 32
                  Quote: bulvas
                  If so, a powerful answer is needed so that at once all desire to provoke is lost

                  ... have already disappeared, the Turks have blown away .. Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said
                  "Now in the world, not a single country is isolated. If somewhere there was an airspace violation, it is impossible to hide it. Violation (by the Su-34 of the Russian Aerospace Forces) was very short, it is recorded by the radars of Turkey and NATO.
                  RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20160131/1368026010.html#ixzz3yqMsn7YA
                  ... the phrase is, the phrase .. very short-term .. is it interesting how much ?! ..second, half a second? ..not comrades, everything is much simpler ... There was nothing .. and evidence in the form of trace NO! .. laughing
                  1. +4
                    31 January 2016 20: 48
                    Quote: Inok10
                    The violation (on the part of the Su-34 RF Aerospace System) was very short-lived, it was recorded by the radar of Turkey and NATO.

                    No, well, what is this evidence? Laughter, and only ... it is necessary to burn American proofs ... so that in each letter the tragedy and the fatalism of the moment can be traced ... winked
                    Pentagon: SU-27 intercepted US reconnaissance aircraft RC-135, flying up to it at a distance of 5 meters, then almost overturned with a jet stream


                    Well, and here it is clear ... He! Putin, tried ...winked Who else could arrange russian zima, in the desert ... feel
                    Saudi Arabia is experiencing heavy snowfall, with temperatures in some regions falling below 0.

                    1. 0
                      1 February 2016 06: 30
                      not yet Bikinsky ...
                5. +3
                  31 January 2016 21: 43
                  Probably, the Qatari with the Saudis did not agree with Putin, they paid Edorgan to arrange a provocation.


                  Right in the root of the zr, dear!
                  1. +2
                    31 January 2016 22: 20
                    Quote: Asadullah
                    Right in the root of the zr, dear!
                    Here, what kind of zagogulina ... Qatari recently visited Moscow and issued such ...

                    Qatar Foreign Minister - Khaled bin Mohammed Al-Attiyah, January 2016:
                    “We are convinced that Russia, thanks to its historical ties with Arab countries, is able to find a way to resolve the Syrian crisis. We have no doubt that Russia is in favor of a united, Arab, secular Syria. We agree with these principles. ”

                    “The leaders of the two countries agreed on the need to find a political solution in Syria. Therefore, the leaders agreed to intensify efforts to put an end to hostilities, killings and hunger among the civilian population. It was also agreed to ensure that the Syrian people could exercise their will, and this requires the support of Arab countries, as well as international players. ”

                    Apparently Russia has broken the plans of the sheikhs as much as possible ... But it’s impossible to take it and leave immediately ... the terrorists will not understand.
                    And they can push against those who fed them and supplied them with money.

                    The SA already began to discuss in the media a reduction in oil production from OPEC.
                    And hinting at the fact that Russia, too, contributed to the growth of oil prices, by reducing production. Only Novak said that it was not us who started the game for a fall, it was not for us to produce and reduce .. winked

                    In the cold, in any case, the EU will remain with millions of migrants and Turkey with a heightened conflict with the Kurds, from all over the BV.
                    1. +3
                      31 January 2016 22: 51
                      Quote: Sid.74
                      Here, what a squiggle ...

                      ... here is even more interesting ..
                      MOSCOW, Jan 31 - RIA News. The planned meeting of Bavarian Prime Minister Horst Seehofer and Russian President Vladimir Putin caused controversy in the ruling coalition of Germany, Reuters reported.
                      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20160131/1367959535.html#ixzz3yquIwO2d

                      ... oops ... it turns out the federal states, in matters of foreign policy, "put" on Berlin? .. and you saw when the thread that our governor would be greeted by the Chancellor herself ?! .. me not .. laughing
                      Seehofer's partners in the ruling coalition warned him of solidarity with the Kremlin, which would be directed against the migration course of Angela Merkel. "On the issue of refugees, Seehofer clearly opposed his position to the line of the Chancellor - I hope he will refuse to travel," said the representative of the Christian Democratic Union, member of the Bundestag Foreign Policy Committee Roderich Kiesewetter, to the newspaper Die Welt.
                      Another colleague Seehofer, a member of the Bundestag from the Social Democratic Party of Germany, Niels Annen, said that political decisions are made "in Berlin, not in Munich." Annen hoped that upon his return from Moscow, Seehofer would not send the Chancellor a new ultimatum, this time on relations with Russia. Earlier, the Bavarian government threatened Merkel with a court because of her migration policy.
                      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20160131/1367959535.html#ixzz3yqvFu8Jt

                      ... in the Noble Federated Family ... all of a sudden, everyone is dancing as he wants ?! .. wink
                      The Bavarian prime minister himself stressed that his visit to Moscow had been coordinated with both Angela Merkel and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier. He also noted that the current situation in the world requires international cooperation. "Hotbeds of crises across Europe cannot be dealt with without Russia," Seehofer said.
                      Bavarian Economy Minister Ilse Aigner in an interview with Die Welt supported Seehofer's position. She noted that a trip to Moscow is important for maintaining traditionally good relations between Bavaria and Russia, including in the economic field.
                      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20160131/1367959535.html#ixzz3yqvv1tqc

                      ... it's just cherry on the cake .. laughing ... here is Bavaria in all its glory .. Germany, Germany .. well, we ourselves .. laughing
                      1. +3
                        31 January 2016 23: 13
                        P.S. .. Isn't that why .. The US Congress, recommended Obama to return the armored division to Europe? .. judging by the events .. to fight against "Bavarian separatism" .. laughing
                      2. +1
                        31 January 2016 23: 19
                        Quote: Inok10
                        Here is Bavaria in all its glory.

                        He ... so this is not without accident ... because just recently ... a little less than a hundred years ago ... was Bavarian Soviet Republic - short-term public education, proclaimed by the Council of Workers and Soldiers Deputies 13 April 1919 in Munich. Existed until 1 May 1919.
                        So, Munich is ours for a long time! laughing

                        And besides this ... Bavaria has its own constitution. It entered into force on December 8 1946.
                        And yet ... Bavarians are descendants of three ancient Germanic allied tribes - Bavars, Franks and Swabians (Alemanni) - differ in the nature of speech, customs, ways of thinking and attitude. And it is the largest land area in the Federal Republic of Germany.

                        Although, seriously ... this is the way to annoy the pro-government parties of the Federal Republic of Germany, and thus show that if you do not want to fail in the elections, consider the opinion of the Germans who are tired of migrants.
                      3. +3
                        31 January 2016 23: 37
                        Quote: Sid.74
                        Although, seriously ... this is the way to annoy the pro-government parties of the Federal Republic of Germany, and thus show that if you do not want to fail in the elections, consider the opinion of the Germans who are tired of migrants.

                        ... especially the Bavarians .. and through them the main stream went .. and, given the fact that in Bavaria you should not even just try to call the Bavarian, German at the household level ... this situation is very revealing .. hi
                6. -1
                  1 February 2016 00: 35
                  And so that the place where Qatar was confused for a long time with the place where Bahrain was, and the Red Sea with the Persian Gulf.
                7. 0
                  1 February 2016 09: 25
                  Quote: bulvas
                  Turks are about to enter Syria,




                  Judging by the latest events have already entered.
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              3. 0
                31 January 2016 20: 54
                they will answer for Crimea, and Izmail will remember.
            2. +5
              31 January 2016 16: 18
              Before breaking Turkish [b]radar stations[/ b] repeatedly in Russian and English warned the Russian aircraft, ”the report said.

              [B]radar stations[/ b Turkish Air Force three times warned the drone ..... belay
              1. +3
                31 January 2016 18: 53
                Quote: NIKNN
                [b] radar stations [/ b Turkish Air Force warned the drone three times.

                Before the violation, Turkish radar stations repeatedly warned the Russian aircraft in Russian and English, ”the report said.
                How can radars warn a plane in any language! lol
                This is generally illiterate nonsense. Who writes these articles in these Turks? If only a competent specialist consulted.
            3. +1
              31 January 2016 18: 28
              More precisely, the front-line bomber!
            4. 0
              31 January 2016 21: 41
              front-line bomber
            5. 0
              31 January 2016 23: 24
              actually the Su-24 is a front-line bomber
          2. +13
            31 January 2016 13: 58
            Climb, knocked down. Maybe not one.
            1. +8
              31 January 2016 14: 57
              Quote: Observer 33
              Climb, knocked down. Maybe not one.

              Sure?
              1. +6
                31 January 2016 16: 34
                Yes. If they cross the border and take a course in our direction, no one will stand on ceremony.
                1. +1
                  31 January 2016 23: 04
                  Quote: Observer 33
                  Yes. If they cross the border and take a course in our direction, no one will stand on ceremony.

                  If they fly to Moscow?))))
            2. +15
              31 January 2016 15: 17
              Quote: Observer 33
              Climb, knocked down. Maybe not one.


              No, guys. This is war.
              1. +12
                31 January 2016 15: 38
                And what? She’s already coming ... And even there are losses. And for some reason, on our part ....
              2. +24
                31 January 2016 15: 41
                No, guys. This is war.
                The stump is clear, the war. But whoever provokes it, can you tell you directly or will you guess it yourself?
                Their increased combat readiness means an early invasion to protect their oil carriers. And they vote in advance to NATA harnessed immediately and in full force. NATA for the same pulls reserves gradually to our borders. In the same Baltic. Almost every week, a little bit, porotno and several units of equipment, but in our direction, and not to ourselves.
              3. +1
                31 January 2016 18: 09
                ... to be afraid of wolves - do not go to the forest ...
              4. 0
                1 February 2016 00: 10
                Quote: evge-malyshev
                No, guys. This is war.
                - The Supreme Commander-in-Chief very harshly (I should cite that fragment of speech!) Recently ordered, right into the microphone like this: “I ORDER (literally I don’t remember) you to answer any provocations from Turkey as harshly as possible!”. Hope everyone saw that news item? I hope that here the majority, if not the military, then those who served in the Army, and know that the orders, especially the ORDERS of the SUPREME COMMANDER, need to be FULFILLED? And unquestioningly, exactly and on time? Any questions on the topic? This closes the topic and is not discussed. The Turks will climb - they will be shot down and beats, this is unambiguous. Along the way and in history, the Turks have a rake - a favorite tool, do not spare them for the Turks, let them come and come, their forehead.
              5. 0
                1 February 2016 06: 24
                The war has been going on for a long time, only has different forms, And it has not stopped since 1945
            3. +4
              31 January 2016 16: 26
              They have already climbed (or one shot down plane does not count?), And we haven’t shot anything yet. What will happen next, let's see. I hope our team prepared this time more thoroughly, and the tourists were taken out, and the S-400 was brought.
          3. +29
            31 January 2016 14: 26
            And you were not interested in how many of our dumb-assed nihilists do their asses warm in Turkey? Through Minsk and in the dams.
            1. +27
              31 January 2016 14: 40
              An orange level of anxiety? The Turks have a problem with oranges - nowhere to go after our sanctions? smile
              The next level is red, i.e. tomato? smile
              1. -8
                31 January 2016 14: 48
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                The next level is red, i.e. tomato?

                The Turks do not have a red alarm level - the highest is orange.
                1. +18
                  31 January 2016 14: 58
                  Quote: Misha Honest
                  The Turks do not have a red alarm level - the highest is orange.

                  Well, yes ...., there is even higher — purple, well, or blue, this is when they are already carried forward with their legs .. Quote from the news;
                  According to the newspaper, in Turkey “there are three main levels of alarm:“ white ”(low probability of attack),“ yellow ”(there is a possibility of attack) и "red" (high probability of collision or war). "
                  1. +9
                    31 January 2016 15: 00
                    Quote: Tersky
                    Well yes .... there is even higher purple

                    Well this is probably eggplant! laughing hi
                  2. +4
                    31 January 2016 15: 11
                    Quote: Tersky
                    Tersky

                    My fault. It turns out there is a tomato - judging by our press. fellow
                    1. +7
                      31 January 2016 15: 21
                      Quote: Misha Honest
                      my fault.

                      Yes, no fault of yours, elementary carelessness,
                      Quote: Misha Honest
                      It turns out there is a tomato - judging by our press.
                      Well, if the newspaper Milliyet is your press, then it is possible .. Yes Michael, did you read the news at all?
                      1. +1
                        31 January 2016 15: 32
                        Quote: Tersky
                        Your guilt, elementary carelessness,

                        On the contrary - rather mindfulness.
                        Quote: Tersky
                        Well, if the Milliyet newspaper is your press, then it is possible. Have you read the news at all?

                        Read - Doesn't Orange Match Red? winked
                        http://ria.ru/world/20160131/1367846225.html
                        Quote: Tersky
                        Milliyet

                        Where is it from?
                      2. +1
                        31 January 2016 15: 44
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        Read - Doesn't Orange Match Red?

                        Yes, you have not only that you see poorly, but also color blind! smile
                        According to the newspaper, in Turkey "there are three main levels of alarm:" white "(low probability of attack)," yellow "(there is a probability of attack) and" red "(high probability of collision or war)."
                        However, “for the Air Force, an“ orange ”level is also being introduced, which, formally, means that a collision can occur at any moment, and that the forces need to be ready for defense and attack,” the newspaper writes.
                      3. +5
                        31 January 2016 15: 45
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        Where is it from?

                        Reread the article and understand. hi
            2. +7
              31 January 2016 14: 44
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              And you were not interested in how many of our dumb-assed nihilists do their asses warm in Turkey? Through Minsk and in the dams.

              Little. Firstly, transit through another country is not convenient. Secondly, not yet a season. Thirdly, after a quarrel with the plane, not only did anti-Turkish sentiment rise in us, but they also had anti-Russian sentiments. So these are extremes, just it will be extreme.
              The beach season in Turkey officially opens in mid-May, by which time all the hotels on the coast open their doors to the long-awaited guests. True, in many resorts of the Aegean coast, as well as Alanya, the air warms up to 25 degrees in mid-April, but the water temperature is still quite invigorating, in the region of 21 degrees. This is not a problem if you choose a hotel that has a heated pool.
              1. +2
                31 January 2016 14: 56
                Quote: Evgeniy667b
                And you were not interested in how many of our dumb-assed nihilists do their asses warm in Turkey?

                in December there were 25.
                now is not the beach season, apparently skiers.
                1. +5
                  31 January 2016 15: 42
                  And how many Turks WORK in the territories controlled by the Russian Federation? I think that more ... than our idiotof ....
                2. +31
                  31 January 2016 15: 59
                  My friend has a villa there. And he is THERE! Moreover, I saw him in December. And this week I asked a mutual friend, and he said that he was in Turkey. And how many of our people have acquired real estate there? Five years ago I was offered to buy one-room "apartments" in Alanya for 6000 €, but with a kitchen. To the sea 300m in a straight line, which explained to me, you can also demand a substantial discount. I know people who bought and rented out such real estate before last season.
                  THESE people will sell their homeland, but they will go to Turkey. And what happened, they will demand that they evacuate, and when they are taken out at our expense, they will curse their own country for losing a piece of a dubious paradise.
                  1. -12
                    31 January 2016 16: 37
                    I also dream of a villa in the Mediterranean, in good times I even asked the price of Antalya.
                    things will straighten out - I’ll definitely buy it, Murmansk is tired of it - we must dump it.
                    1. +11
                      31 January 2016 16: 59
                      On the coast of Yemen, you can freely acquire a villa. Antalya, not that adrenaline. Think at your leisure. The minus is not mine, but I support it.
                      1. -3
                        31 January 2016 17: 22
                        how is your geography? I'm talking about the Mediterranean Sea, and you are imposing Yemen on me.
                    2. 0
                      1 February 2016 00: 36
                      Quote: -Traveller-
                      I also dream of a villa in the Mediterranean, in good times I even asked the price of Antalya.
                      things will straighten out - I’ll definitely buy it, Murmansk is tired of it - we must dump
                      - fight in Syria, land in Latakia will be sold to you at a very reasonable price for a piece of land with access to the beach. The climate there is no worse than in Antalya and not so dirty
                3. +1
                  31 January 2016 19: 39
                  in December it was 25. Now it’s not the beach season, apparently skiers.
                  Rather, not as many skiers as small businessmen. Purchased in December. And Christmas discounts, and about the fact that in January restrictions will be introduced - have been announced in advance.
            3. +25
              31 January 2016 15: 11
              and this is THEIR problem if the Turks take it for heated asses. there was a refusal of tourist trips and a warning about terrorist attacks. Even a purely humane vacation next to those who killed your fellow citizens ...
              1. 0
                31 January 2016 21: 00
                Unfortunately, there are enough scumbags like Kasyan with his ideology in Russia. I am glad that their significant minority.
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            5. +12
              31 January 2016 15: 16
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              And you were not interested in how many of our dumb-assed nihilists do their asses warm in Turkey?

              And who is guilty of them crazy? Warned-
              "According to the competent authorities, the leaders of the international terrorist organization ISIS are planning to take hostages from among the citizens of the Russian Federation who are in the Republic of Turkey," the Federal Tourism Agency said.
              "According to available information, the hostages can be transported to the territory controlled by the militants for public executions and use as" human shields "in clashes with the Syrian government and coalition forces," the ministry warns.
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            7. +14
              31 January 2016 15: 20
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              And you were not interested in how many of our dumb-assed nihilists do their asses warm in Turkey? Through Minsk and in the dams.

              We will also save the "dullheads" as long as it goes. Of course, there will be costs. Most likely, we will lose some of the "stupid" or those whom the "difficult" has brought. Breeding, however ... But the bulk will have a visual, "difficult, but necessary" lesson.
            8. +29
              31 January 2016 15: 33
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              I think you need to shoot down ... They just do not calm down! We shot down our attack aircraft .. Russia expressed concern ... Putin decide

              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              And you were not interested in how many of our dumb-assed nihilists do their asses warm in Turkey? Through Minsk and in the dams.

              That's when our plane was shot down, we really were hostages of the fact that up to 20 thousand of our compatriots were lying on Turkish sand, who were not guilty of anything and also became hostages of the situation.
              I think the fact that today someone, contrary to common sense, climbed there by his own dope, can no longer be a reason to deter the Russian Federation from taking retaliatory measures.
              It is unpleasant of course, but the state must first of all protect the interests of 142 million Russians, and not hundreds of dumb-headed fellow citizens.
            9. +2
              31 January 2016 15: 37
              Let them self-destruct. Natural selection.
            10. +2
              31 January 2016 15: 47
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              And you were not interested in how many of our dumb-assed nihilists do their asses warm in Turkey? Through Minsk and in the dams.

              There is no season now ...
            11. +2
              31 January 2016 16: 36
              Keyword - dumbhead Yes
            12. 0
              31 January 2016 17: 34
              Quote: Evgeniy667b
              And you were not interested in how much

              so enlighten .... and how many are there? ... don’t know ... tady tydyshchschsch
          4. +6
            31 January 2016 15: 08
            Quote: MIKHAN
            I think you need to shoot down ... They just do not calm down!

            Shoot down what? This example of the injection of g *** on the fan by Turkey about the alleged violation by Russian planes of the Turkish Air Force once again confirms that Erdogan got off his head with fear and did not dare to lift the fighters into the air a second time even if he took the "invasion" at face value. Ankara behaves like a political whore, pouring false accusations, but fears to get the full.
          5. +21
            31 January 2016 15: 44
            Quote: MIKHAN
            otherwise on the territory of Russia they will start to shoot down ours!

            They will not start Vitalik, they will not start. hi
          6. +6
            31 January 2016 15: 50
            Overview of the situation in Syria, there just after a short break, the operation to liberate the border areas of Latakia continued.
          7. +4
            31 January 2016 17: 04
            Quote: MIKHAN
            I think you need to shoot down ... They just do not calm down! We shot down our attack aircraft .. Russia expressed concern ... Putin make up his mind, otherwise they will start to shoot down ours on the territory of Russia! We will stand under arms, if that!

            Do not hesitate, if they fly into Syrian air, they will be shot down - the order has already been given, and the GDP will not be joking with such things.
            Quote: MIKHAN
            We shot down our attack aircraft .. Russia expressed concern ..

            Well, for the sake of justice, Russia expressed concern about the caliber and long-range aviation smile hi
            1. 0
              31 January 2016 19: 49
              by the way, and why are we shy ...
              below in the picture PU with missiles Caliber
              it’s time to already supply Brigade complexes to the troops
              Caliber-NK; -PL is good - but not enough volley!
              and the brigade, for example, of 12 launchers x 4 missiles = 48 missiles in a salvo
              just declare a range of not more than 500 km laughing
          8. 0
            31 January 2016 20: 34
            Quote: MIKHAN
            We will stand under arms, if that!

            not under the gun - in this case there is a Strategic Missile Forces!
          9. +4
            31 January 2016 20: 43
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Putin make up your mind, otherwise they will start to shoot down our territory in Russia!

            Blah blah blah! Nonsense!!! am
          10. -1
            31 January 2016 21: 40
            it’s better to warn
          11. -2
            31 January 2016 23: 25
            Quote: MIKHAN
            .. Putin make up your mind, otherwise on the territory of Russia they will start to shoot down ours! We will stand under arms, if that!

            That there is Turkey, a dozen nuclear missiles and will not have to be under arms, there will be enough Jews and Saudis, we will burn everything, here it is a pity for the Palestinians.
        2. +10
          31 January 2016 14: 10
          Quote: Baikonur
          Turks constantly violate air. space of Greece, for example! I wish I could come to an agreement with the Greeks and slam at least one Turk-fly! Although, of course, they won’t go for it!

          Let the Greeks agree with the Bulgarians against Turkey, the Greeks have the S-300!
          1. +3
            31 January 2016 15: 04
            Greeks are exiles, genetically afraid of Turks.
            1. 0
              31 January 2016 19: 54
              the Greeks air defense missile system S-300 is on alert
          2. -3
            31 January 2016 15: 11
            Quote: Sith Lord
            Let the Greeks agree with the Bulgarians against Turkey, the Greeks have the S-300!

            At the same time, let them agree with the Turks so that they fly to Greece, otherwise the S-300 will not reach Turkey smile
            1. +12
              31 January 2016 15: 48
              Quote: Bayonet
              At the same time, let them agree with the Turks so that they fly to Greece, otherwise the S-300 will not reach Turkey smile

              Let it be known to you that only in December the Turks violated the airspace of Greece 49 times !!!
              1. 0
                31 January 2016 16: 54
                Quote: Sith Lord
                Let it be known to you that only in December the Turks violated the airspace of Greece 49 times !!!

                Well then, another thing! And patience is just iron smile hi
                1. +2
                  31 January 2016 23: 05
                  Yes, to hell with him, with patience ... Both of them (countries) are members of NATO. And if they really clashed, that's where the spectacle fellow ... and good for good people, that is, for us. laughing
                  1. +2
                    1 February 2016 01: 20
                    Quote: Barkhan
                    both (countries) are members of NATO. And if they really clashed, that's where the spectacle

                    you probably watched "300 Spartans" not so long ago and are still impressed? laughing
                    1. +1
                      1 February 2016 09: 44
                      Well, I certainly didn’t mean carpet bombing and landing operations on the coasts. It is quite enough if they begin to drag each other by the hair at NATO meetings. Well and of course the press will give heat.
              2. +1
                31 January 2016 19: 41
                Only in December, the Turks violated the airspace of Greece 49 times !!!
                This means that only in December the Greeks wrote to Turkey 49 notes of protest and complaints to Brussels, to NATO.
            2. 0
              1 February 2016 06: 37
              Greece is very difficult to conduct an independent policy-it is under external control. And even more so to decide on the destruction of air violators. This is not about genetics but about political will.
          3. +17
            31 January 2016 15: 58
            I have relatives living in Bulgaria, and so, according to their words, there is now a serious public outcry over the attempt by their Minister of Education to rewrite history (in particular, school history books), from which it is planned to remove the mention of the long-term oppression of the Balkan peoples ( well, the Bulgarians, of course) the Turks. In other words, the euro / the united states, let's call them that, are trying their best to make Turkey an image of such a reliable and "relatively honest" partner, whose airspace is now being encroached by "aggressive Russia". But neither in Bulgaria nor in Greece such things will work for them - they know perfectly well what Erdogan and Turkey are.
        3. +5
          31 January 2016 14: 14
          Baikonur (7)
          I wish I could come to an agreement with the Greeks and slam at least one Turk-fly!

          Why negotiate - the Greeks already have the C300, negotiations on their maintenance and replacement of aging missiles were still weighty. Want - click on the button.
        4. 0
          1 February 2016 00: 27
          Non-traditional people at the head of the Turetchina run up. I'd like to look at the first combat use of C-400 for these children of a female dog.
        5. 0
          1 February 2016 11: 55
          Before the violation, Turkish radar stations repeatedly warned the Russian aircraft in Russian and English
          .
          What kind of radars they say turns out to be, not so much ours (they only determine something)
      2. +35
        31 January 2016 13: 41
        Quote: NIKNN
        I don’t know who is dumber than Erdogan or Poroshenko

        Obama
      3. +24
        31 January 2016 13: 58
        Quote: NIKNN
        I don’t know who is dumber than Erdogan or Poroshenko

        Full coincidence with the behavior of Ukraine. Provocations, accusations of what happened in Russia and the promotion of military fumes. And no wonder - the conductor is the same.
        1. VP
          +24
          31 January 2016 14: 14
          Different situations. Erdogan’s perdak burns without any conductors, and sometimes contrary to them.
          Erdogan spills out the collapse of all his long, five-year, efforts.
          In addition to the collapse with the overthrow of Assad, he, in pursuit, receives a loss of influence in the region of the Turkmen mountains and the strengthening of the Kurds along its borders.
          But dreamed otherwise. And to all his comrades-in-arms drawn into an adventure, he painted differently, too.
          And here is the distinct perspective of a trough.
          Five years in a landfill. A powerful blow to authority and pride.
          There are only exacerbations with the Kurds, refugee camps on the territory of the country, whose uncontrolled Basmachis suddenly cease to arrange something, problems with all neighbors in a row, frictions with the United States that help the Kurds, zero relations with the Russian Federation, which were previously excellent.
          1. 0
            31 January 2016 23: 44
            "They will give you something - but you don't steal" (classic))) laughing
        2. +9
          31 January 2016 14: 16
          Quote: Voha_krim
          ... the conductor is the same.

          the next step of the sanctions following the talks on Syria ??? recourse
        3. +8
          31 January 2016 14: 17
          Quote: Voha_krim
          Full coincidence with the behavior of Ukraine. Provocations, accusations of what happened in Russia and the promotion of military fumes. And no wonder - the conductor is the same.

          ... and add the last week's groans from the Swedish Defense Minister about the "Russian threat", as well as Finland's statement last year to end the 1947 peace treaty, according to which it severely limited its armaments .. the screeching of the Baldans and Poland ... the situation is heating up. ... hi
          1. dyksi
            +5
            31 January 2016 14: 52
            Along the way, they are clearly already moving off the coils, since the Turks must understand that in case of conflict their country will disappear from the political and geographic maps of the world, it has such a location, it will fly from all sides. It’s easy to step over the line, but then you will not return anything.
      4. +7
        31 January 2016 14: 08
        In any case, part of our Caliber and X101 (with the usual warhead, or maybe not) have already entered the coordinates of the targets in Turkey. This time, if they get in a hurry everything will be like an adult.
        1. 0
          31 January 2016 18: 03
          Quote: ramzes1776
          In any case, part of our Caliber and X101 (with the usual warhead, or maybe not) have already entered the coordinates of the targets in Turkey. This time, if they get in a hurry everything will be like an adult.

          Have you read the new doctrine on Turkey? because of the Turks no one will start the world’s 3rd ... I mean your words with the special warhead of missiles
          1. +2
            1 February 2016 01: 33
            Quote: gispanec
            Have you read the new doctrine on Turkey? because of the Turks no one will start the world’s 3rd ... I mean your words with the special warhead of missiles

            the key word is "no one" - that is, evropa, etc., etc., and in this case, why not bang a special missile warhead in Turkey, if only the Saudis rock the boat out of Iran, they will immediately roll the device under the ass laughing
      5. +5
        31 January 2016 15: 01
        Quote: NIKNN
        I don’t know who is dumber than Erdogan or Poroshenko

        Poroshenko is dumber. Erdogan Greyhound.
        But according to the international diplomatic classification, both are political corpses.
      6. 0
        31 January 2016 18: 30
        Dumb and Dumber... belay
      7. +1
        31 January 2016 21: 10
        this is the same as in the joke:

        The husband says to his wife:
        I can agree with you, but then we will both be wrong.)))
      8. 0
        31 January 2016 21: 40
        S-400 missile apparently you mean
      9. 0
        31 January 2016 22: 46
        Aha! The air defense motto is "We don't fly ourselves - and we don't give it to others!" has not been canceled yet!)))
      10. -1
        1 February 2016 01: 20
        And that will be? Do you get it The grouping of the RF Armed Forces in Syria against Turkey will not last half an hour, and even if you send all your strength, you will not force NATO in the Mediterranean. Think who is dumber than voices such thoughts.
        1. +2
          1 February 2016 05: 33
          Quote: SuperVodka777
          The grouping of the RF Armed Forces in Syria against Turkey will not last half an hour, and even if you send all your strength, you will not force NATO in the Mediterranean.


          Are you sure, Mr. Svidomo strategist? Look at the map carefully, scratch ... what do you have there ...
          And, yes, forget about NATO - NATO is not NATO (Baltic accent))
      11. +1
        1 February 2016 03: 54
        Quote: NIKNN
        I don’t know who is dumber than Erdogan or Poroshenko


        identical Kazls and fate they have in common. will provide a dead end. And because not FIG.
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    3. +25
      31 January 2016 13: 44
      Quote: deputy ___ watered
      and there the bibles will sound that the Russians bombed Istanbul!)

      So already NATO and the White House are trumpeting that the Russians violate the airspace of a NATO member, Yes, everything is just like 5 cents, bargaining in Syria, they beat out preferences for themselves. Moreover, they play the dark with a fool Erdogan.
      1. +2
        31 January 2016 14: 14
        Quote: vovanpain
        So already NATO and the White House are trumpeting
        Are they ready to die for Turkey? Or the task of drawing Russia into a local war? It is necessary to demand from NATO to exclude Turkey from the military-political bloc for supporting terrorists. And to warn them that they become hostages to Erdogan’s adventure.
        1. Alf
          +1
          31 January 2016 15: 01
          Quote: fif21
          It is necessary to demand from NATO to exclude Turkey from the military-political bloc for supporting terrorists.

          Then ALL NATO will have to dissolve, because it is from a block feature-to breed terrorists.
          1. 0
            31 January 2016 17: 14
            Quote: Alf
            Then ALL NATO will have to dissolve
            Well, then the verb "dissolve" should be replaced by another.
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      3. +16
        31 January 2016 15: 38
        Quote: vovanpain
        So already NATO and the White House are trumpeting that the Russians are violating the airspace of a NATO member,

        Yes, and let them blow
        1. +1
          31 January 2016 15: 57
          The photo on the screensaver killed, the rooster flying forward with its tail, on the "tail"! Who didn’t die laughing, give up?
          And ours is Eagle!
    4. +34
      31 January 2016 13: 48
      It is necessary to draw the profile of Suvorov on our planes ... so that the bassists would remember Topal Pasha! Then their "orange" will not turn off at all, even when our VKS leave Syria .... So painted in the colors of childish surprise will live ... laughing
      1. +21
        31 January 2016 13: 59
        And let Usak Pasha remember. On the ships to draw.
        1. +30
          31 January 2016 14: 09
          Quote: armored optimist
          And let Usak Pasha remember. On ships draw

          And nah-pasha too!
          "Admiral Nakhimov did not like to breed polites with the Turks, and if those
          refused to accept the terms of surrender, he abruptly cut off negotiations
          and invited them to go somewhere. In Turkey he was called that: Nah Pasha. " smile
          1. -2
            31 January 2016 18: 09
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            They called him that in Turkey: Nah Pasha

            This is how legends are born.
          2. +1
            31 January 2016 19: 46
            And nah-pasha too!

            Russian: "Glory to the great Russian naval commander Nakhimov."
            Crest: Who ?? Yes, bye on tebe. What kind of "Nakhymov"? Tse was ours, Ukrainian Nakhimenko !!!
            Russian - "Nakhimov!"
            Khokhol - "Nakhimenko!"
            Russian - "Nakhimov !!!"
            The crest - "Nakhimenko !!!"

            And only the old Jew Nachimson sat on the sidelines and did not fit into the argument. He knew for sure ...
    5. ECT
      -6
      31 January 2016 14: 23
      Shot down a Syrian pilot Le Du Ching
    6. 0
      31 January 2016 14: 48
      It is now so an innocent virgin portrayed at the state level.
    7. Alf
      +2
      31 January 2016 15: 04
      Quote: deputy ___ watered
      cheap move! The main thing is to attract attention, and there the bibisi will sound that the Russians bombed Istanbul!)

      "According to military sources, the level of alert at the air bases under the command of the Air Force has been changed to" orange "," the agency notes.

      And what is there in the Turkish Air Force airbase, which does not obey the command of the Turkish Air Force?
      1. +5
        31 January 2016 15: 40
        Quote: Alf
        And what is there in the Turkish Air Force airbase, which does not obey the command of the Turkish Air Force?

        ... Ingerlik .. NATO joint base, 10th air wing and 2nd command of the Turkish air force .. hi
        1. Alf
          0
          31 January 2016 22: 02
          Quote: Inok10
          ... Ingerlik .. NATO joint base, 10th air wing and 2nd command of the Turkish air force ..

          I agree. And the OTHER Turkish airbases now sit peacefully or also warm the engines?
      2. +2
        31 January 2016 15: 54
        The announcement of the alarm in the Turkish Air Force is the second stage in the provocation arranged by Turkey the day before. There is no doubt that this is a provocation !! And the US is in the know.
        On January 30, representatives of the Turkish Foreign Ministry said that on the eve of a Russian military plane violated the Turkish border. “Yesterday, one Su-34 belonging to the Russian Aerospace Forces violated Turkish airspace. Before the violation, Turkish radar stations repeatedly warned the Russian plane in Russian and English, ”the Foreign Ministry said in a statement. At the same time, the Russian ambassador to Turkey was invited to the Turkish Foreign Ministry, where he “was strongly opposed and condemned” in connection with the incident.

        The representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Major General Igor Konashenkov, in turn, denied the statements of Turkey, calling them unfounded propaganda. According to him, there were no violations of the Turkish airspace by airplanes of the Russian Aerospace Forces. Konashenkov expressed bewilderment at how precisely the Turkish authorities determined the model of the supposedly Russian aircraft: “I’m sure that even Turkish air defense experts know that radar stations that monitor airspace can only fix the altitude, course and speed of an object in the air. None of these radars is able to determine the type and state of the air object. ”It is noteworthy that in the first reports of the Turkish Air Force it was said that the MiG-29 aircraft violated the airspace, but the Russian Air Force does not have these aircraft at the Russian base in Syria, since the main the task is to strike at ground targets. About this, in particular, the newspaper The Wall Street Journal wrote. However, Ankara continues to argue that the violation took place without showing any evidence. The lack of accurate information did not stop Pentagon officials from blaming the Russian military and supporting the ruling Turkish elite.
        http://izvestia.ru/news/602962#ixzz3ypFhfadJ.
    8. 0
      31 January 2016 15: 32
      it’s not in vain that our troops transferred the Su-35 link to Latakia today !!! good
    9. +1
      31 January 2016 15: 36
      It’s better to be than to be reputed ....))))) And about who is dumber, the training manual is alone and the puppeteers are sure that they have left the population of the land entrusted to them to zero. Here is a vivid example of the authenticity of the expression "people hawala" .... And I feel sorry for them ...
    10. +7
      31 January 2016 15: 39
      Su-35s flown to Syria
      Four Su-35S fighters deployed to Syria

      bmpd
      January 31st, 14:31 pm
      As reported, on January 30, 2016, four of the newest Su-35S multipurpose fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces were transferred to the Russian aviation group at the Syrian Khmeimim airbase near Latakia. Four Su-35S fighters of the latest construction of the Komsomolsk-on-Amur Aviation Plant named after Yu.A. flew to Syria. Gagarin (branch of Sukhoi Company JSC), transferred to the Russian Aerospace Forces in October and November 2015 - aircraft with red side numbers "03", "04", "05" and "06" (serial numbers 02517, 02518, 02619 and 02620, respectively).

      According to well-known information, these Su-35S aircraft made a flight to Syria from the Volga airport (Astrakhan region), led by the passenger aircraft Tu-154M of the Russian Air Force (registration number RA-85042).

      This is the first appearance of the Su-35S as part of the Russian aviation group in Syria and the first combat deployment of aircraft of this type in general.
      1. +3
        31 January 2016 16: 06
        I am firmly convinced that the four newest multifunctional Su-35S fighters of the Russian Aerospace Forces have been deployed to Syria only to participate in the fight against illegal terrorist groups on its territory. I would not want to create an environment for their other application. We don’t need this. I hope that a sober mind will prevail in the leadership of Turkey, and not revanchist ambitions.
        1. +7
          31 January 2016 17: 45
          Hmmm, I remember when I wrote on the same website about a month ago, they say, it would be nice to send the Su-35 to Syria - I took so many minuses ... So many "smart guys" told me that it was more than stupid and unnecessary, as Su-30SM do an excellent job of their work and so on, and so on, and so on.
          And now everyone is happy! Everyone is happy with everything!
          I wonder how many minuses I would catch if in the first days of October I would offer ISIS from 3M-14 and X-555 to shoot ?! bully
          1. -6
            31 January 2016 18: 25
            Quote: Wiruz
            I remember when I about a month ago

            ...I do not remember;
            Quote: Wiruz
            So many "smart guys" told me

            ...I do not know;
            Quote: Wiruz
            I wonder how many minuses I would catch

            Try calling Globe.
          2. +2
            1 February 2016 01: 45
            Quote: Wiruz
            M-yes, I remember when I wrote on the same site a month ago, they say, it would be nice to send the Su-35 to Syria - I got so many drawbacks ..

            laughing I remember, although at the same time everyone wants to send something there for testing laughing
      2. 0
        31 January 2016 19: 49
        Wow! This is news!
        1. +2
          1 February 2016 01: 55
          Quote: SSeT
          Wow! This is news!

          laughing laughing laughing did not work? didn’t understand yet that it is leaving slowly after the new year, finally wink
    11. 0
      31 January 2016 17: 29
      On Saturday, the Turkish Foreign Ministry issued a special statement reporting the violation of the air border by Russian aircraft. “Yesterday (January 29, 2016) one Su-34 belonging to the Russian Air Force
      They put pressure on Putin emotionally, they ruined the weekend, let them check to find out, twitches, here are the Turks ... Most likely, the border zones, according to Syrian sources, are slightly different from the Turkish ones.
      1. +2
        1 February 2016 01: 59
        Quote: GYGOLA
        Emotionally put pressure on Putin

        if you put a lot of pressure on GDP, then tanks, planes and missiles will climb out of it fellow bully
    12. 0
      31 January 2016 18: 29
      shoot down on take-off .. if that ...
    13. 0
      31 January 2016 19: 19
      I’m humble and the position is small, BUT HERE TO KNOW!
    14. 0
      31 January 2016 21: 39
      why cheap. normal
    15. 0
      1 February 2016 22: 11
      Yes, all this Turkish mouse fuss about our wolfhounds sent there SU-35S!
  2. ZKB
    +4
    31 January 2016 13: 36
    An orange level of anxiety ... I just want to answer with the phrase of our Foreign Minister.
    forgot about S-400
    1. +35
      31 January 2016 13: 41
      Quote: ZKB
      forgot about S-400

      Probably alarmed by the fact that yesterday our 4 Su-35S were transferred to Khmeimim. And what will happen if one more link of these "birds" is relocated? Will the fire alarm be announced throughout Turkey? Jokes and jokes, but the degree of escalation is increasing.
      1. +29
        31 January 2016 13: 52
        It’s time to honestly warn Erdogan that if another attempt to bring down a Russian plane follows, then a strike will be struck at the airfield from which these bandits take off.
        Such a warning would immediately cool many heads not only in Turkey, but also NATO.
        1. -3
          31 January 2016 15: 53
          This is not what, the c400 complex shoots down targets at altitudes of 0 meters, so when the Turks board a plane, they immediately get an alarm and an alert, which is already on the gun. So they are aware of their problems.
          1. +4
            31 January 2016 16: 42
            Quote: Kyustenkats
            complex s400 shoots down targets at altitudes of 0 meters

            Yes more! Even the buried bunkers of the S-400 are amazing. Yes
          2. +2
            31 January 2016 17: 26
            On the border of Syria and Turkey, a mountain range. Do not write urapatriotic nonsense.
            1. 0
              31 January 2016 19: 58
              DmitryK
              here who writes urapatriotic nonsense gets a plus sign!
              and whoever conducts a deep analysis and bothers or turns on the mind gets a minus sign!
              1. 0
                1 February 2016 00: 12
                Are you only interested in the pluses?
              2. 0
                1 February 2016 05: 48
                Quote: remy
                who conducts a deep analysis and bothers or turns on the mind gets a minus sign!


                Ah well! Get it for "deep analysis" and don't "bother" laughing
            2. 0
              1 February 2016 07: 07
              Are you a great specialist in radar? Do you know the capabilities of the complex?
          3. +3
            31 January 2016 19: 55
            Quote: Kyustenkats
            This is not what, the c400 complex shoots down targets at altitudes of 0 meters

            Unfortunately, even for the most advanced air defense system, the laws of physics cannot be canceled. The Turks, or rather their puppeteers, the Americans, know perfectly well how to hide a loitering fighter in the field of radio shade and, using AWACS planes, to suddenly attack a Russian plane via an optoelectronic channel. The only system that is capable of reacting and protecting the aircraft is the President-S electronic countermeasures system.
            1. 0
              1 February 2016 07: 11
              Possibilities of a phased array and a special math apparatus make it possible to detect and identify targets against the backdrop of forest mountains even at a target speed of less than 1 meter per second, even a hovering helicopter.
        2. +3
          31 January 2016 15: 55
          It’s time to honestly warn Erdogan that if another attempt to bring down a Russian plane follows, then a strike will be struck at the airfield from which these bandits take off.
          A weak reaction to the downing of our aircraft only increased their borzometer. And, accordingly, the next time will have to do much more, and possibly bloody suggestion.
          All in full accordance with the psychology of such scumbags. Therefore, in the case of such a statement, we must immediately say that the wrong base from where it took off will be destroyed. And just ALL air force bases. To nowhere else and no one to take off in principle.
          And in the preamble of the statement to lay down and transfer of support for terrorism in Syria, theft of oil from there, violation of the Greek airspace, Cyprus and so on.
          1. +1
            1 February 2016 00: 22
            Moreover, it is indicative of the use of tactical nuclear weapons, so that the others in the bloc understand that this is serious, and the Russian Federation is not going to stand on ceremony with anyone. Only the realization that the "partner" will not be able to sit out overseas can give a chance to avoid a big war.
        3. 0
          31 January 2016 17: 25
          There were no attempts. Decided, Wanted and shot down. And nothing.
        4. 0
          31 January 2016 21: 14
          I fully support!
        5. +1
          1 February 2016 06: 43
          I think we need to answer at the airfields. You need to beat in a fight so that the ears of the enemy fall off, solely for reasons of humanism.
      2. +3
        31 January 2016 14: 07
        Just in case, news about the transfer of the Su-35S:
        http://warfiles.ru/show-107125-rossiya-perebrosila-v-siriyu-zveno-noveyshih-su-3
        5.html
        http://vpk-news.ru/news/28981
      3. +4
        31 January 2016 14: 16
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        They probably got excited because yesterday our 4 Su-35С were transferred to Khmeimim.

        Shot almost helpless bomber. And then su-35 intended to shoot down? Although the fact that the Turks are preparing a provocation of an air incident, with unpredictable consequences is more than likely ....
        1. +4
          31 January 2016 15: 29
          Of course, this is all due to the fact that Washington with its airborne assault forces not only clearly does not have time for the outlined holiday on the complete defeat of the bandit formations in Syria, but upon arrival may turn out to be an obvious "loser", or simply "the third superfluous". In addition to ridicule and cackle from the world community, this "cream-picking team" then does not get anything. Therefore, a disinformation war was started against Russia, in which Erdogan is just a decoy duck quacking from his backwater on command from behind a large puddle. And the task now for Erdogan is clearly set: to slander Russia before the whole world, so that under the prospect of imposing new sanctions, to force him to stop routing ISIS (his fosterlings, the ugly people). to return everything back, and for one thing to show her who is the boss in this house.
        2. -4
          31 January 2016 17: 28
          The attack scheme on the su-24 is no different from the attack on the su-35. Everything is thought out, competently, efficiently.
      4. +1
        31 January 2016 16: 07
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Joking, joking, but a degree of escalation
        , can be reduced by high-quality CALIBRATION.
    2. +12
      31 January 2016 13: 42
      C-400 and Varyag are air defense systems, which can be circumvented using a complex terrain around the appendix. If after the launch of Sayd or AMRAAM to go into the shadows behind the ridge (actually a lapel with a sharp decrease), then the SAM will have a failure to capture even there C-400, at least PAK, at least something.

      The Su-35 + thrown the other day, the existing Su-30 + AWACS will be much more effective, but again the issue of territory (you can, you can’t fly abroad after shelling from Turkey).
      1. +10
        31 January 2016 13: 55
        ....... "but again, the issue of territory (you can, you can't fly abroad after shelling from Turkey) ....
        If there is shelling of our group from Turkey, the issue of territory will disappear by itself. This will be an act of aggression by the Turkish Armed Forces against the Russian Federation.
        The Turks will not go for it, this is WAR !!!
        1. +9
          31 January 2016 15: 57
          The Turks will not go for it, this is WAR !!!
          The Turks will do it. After the first attack got away with it, this is not a probability, but an axiom. The question is whether we go on principle in the event of a repetition of the attack.
          1. +8
            31 January 2016 16: 30
            ....... "The statement by the Turkish authorities about the violation of the airspace by the Russian Su-34 should be regarded as a painful reaction to the recent successes of the Aerospace Forces in Syria. Many observers are sure of this. They agree that Ankara is making such provocations in an attempt to organize a personal meeting between Erdogan and Putin. However, the Kremlin has long made it clear that there is nothing to talk about with those who beat in the back ".......
            To unleash a war with Russia on behalf of NATO !? Let's wait and see.
        2. -3
          31 January 2016 17: 31
          This is not a war. This is an incident. War has goals and objectives. We have no insoluble contradictions with Turkey.
          1. +2
            31 January 2016 18: 31
            Quote: DmitryK
            This is not a war. It's incеdent

            V.S. Vysotsky. Chess Crown Honor Game
            He destroys my defense
            Old Indian - at the moment -
            It vaguely reminds me
            Indo-Pakistani incident.
            Pay attention to the spelling words.
        3. 0
          31 January 2016 23: 51
          In the event of any incident - if Putin decides to openly clash, it is necessary to hit not the aircraft but the fleet. Port infrastructure and the fleet are quite vulnerable until they go to sea. Especially in the Navy we are lagging behind the Turks. Well, then already, or in parallel - squeeze the pilots. But of course, God forbid.
          1. 0
            1 February 2016 21: 20
            How did you determine the backlog of our fleet? One "Severodvinsk" will lay down the entire Turkish fleet.
      2. +8
        31 January 2016 14: 06
        Quote: donavi49
        If after the launch of Sayd or AMRAAM, go into the shadows behind the ridge (actually a lapel with a sharp decrease), then the air defense system will have a disruption to capture even there S-400, at least PAK, at least something else.

        ... reasonably .. but do not forget that after the events with the SU-24 we don’t fly without the cover of the SU-30SM .. so the terrain here will not help .. and it really smells like an outright war .. and the destruction of the Turkish air force with using all available means .. including aerodrome structure .. hi
        1. +1
          31 January 2016 14: 13
          15 years ago, the arrogant Saxons calculated and asserted this. Well, what do their assumptions compare? All planes are there.
          The US military information portal Strategypage released the previously unpublished results of a study by the now defunct British Defense Evaluation and Research Agency. In 2000, British experts tried to compare the characteristics of the latest Russian Su-35 fighter with modern western aircraft of this class. The data were summarized in the following table (the ratio of losses of the Su-35 to Western aircraft):
          F-22 - 10,1: 1 (more than ten Su-35s will fall on one downed American fighter)
          Typhoon - 4,5: 1
          Rafale 1: 1
          F-15C 0,8: 1
          F-18D 0,4: 1
          F-18C 0,3: 1
          F-16C 0,3: 1
          1. +9
            31 January 2016 14: 30
            Quote: keel 31

            Typhoon - 4,5: 1

            Yes? And here is the opinion:
            Our military experts believe that the Su-35 is more functional .. In terms of ammunition, the Su-35 surpasses Typhoon by one and a half times: 9 and 6,5 tons, respectively. Our fighter is capable of detecting a target at a distance of 400 km, and the European one - only 300. Besides Typhoon, unlike the Su-35, is not equipped with a warning system about the launch of enemy missiles. Meanwhile, this system gives the pilot some precious seconds to maneuver. Thanks to better maneuverability, the Su-35 is more likely to defeat the Eurofighter Typhoon in aerial combat

            So, how many people - so many opinions. In addition, the pilot's flying skills, along with moral and volitional qualities, also play an important role. Only an air battle will show the truth.
            1. +3
              31 January 2016 14: 49
              So I say let's see. I wonder why the arrogant Saxons do not like the French rafal so 1-1 hi
        2. 0
          31 January 2016 23: 53
          The fleet and its infrastructure must be destroyed.
      3. +1
        31 January 2016 20: 04
        there will be no disruption of capture if the air defense system is coupled with a control gear of the ACS type Polyana D4M1
        ACS receives control from third-party funds
        Radar SPRN, radar SAM SAM Tor, Beech, A-50, Shell
    3. +9
      31 January 2016 13: 43
      The staff members quickly connected to this - the representative of the US Department of Defense Mark Wright confirmed everything in an interview with RIA Novosti: “We are aware of the messages and can confirm that yesterday another Russian military aircraft violated the airspace of Turkey and NATO.”
      Turkey, after all, will again run to Brussels if something is dirty tricks. Prepare informational background in advance.
      1. cap
        +16
        31 January 2016 13: 56
        catcat
        Quote: Stock Officer
        The staff members quickly connected to this - the representative of the US Department of Defense Mark Wright confirmed everything in an interview with RIA Novosti: “We are aware of the messages and can confirm that yesterday another Russian military aircraft violated the airspace of Turkey and NATO.”
        Turkey, after all, will again run to Brussels if something is dirty tricks. Prepare informational background in advance.


        They’re preparing another dirty trick. They started stuffing. Like this cat.
        1. avt
          +11
          31 January 2016 14: 27
          Quote: cap
          They’re preparing another dirty trick. They started stuffing. Like this cat.

          Ten years of shooting you without the right of correspondence, for having thrown into the Internet a photo of a secret special forces soldier, the military seals of the GRU / FSB in training! laughing
        2. +2
          31 January 2016 16: 18
          And this is the BLOCK system. Even if one of the subjects of bl. goes "beyond the generally accepted norms of behavior", all other members are "obliged" to support the "marginalized", because they are bound by an agreement. Whose block is stronger, that has Truth. Stupid, don't learn history.
      2. +7
        31 January 2016 14: 08
        Quote: Reserve officer
        Turkey, after all, will again run to Brussels if something is dirty tricks. Prepare informational background in advance.

        ... letting first trace will be presented as evidence .. bark or fart this one .. hi
    4. +4
      31 January 2016 13: 51
      Quote: ZKB
      An orange level of anxiety ... I just want to answer with the phrase of our Foreign Minister.
      forgot about S-400

      Especially for a "special" occasion, an orange alert level was introduced!?! The next step is to introduce orange traffic lights, especially for idiots like Erdogan.
      1. +8
        31 January 2016 13: 56
        Quote: Proxima
        Especially for a "special" occasion, an orange alert level was introduced!?!

        why they were alarmed, because the territory of Turkey was not bombed and their planes were not shot down ...
        1. +1
          31 January 2016 14: 16
          For Vita VKO --- They already warned us after the Su-24 was shot down. In Turkey, as a shooter, the main task is to block the main supply channel for the Syrian troops and our air base. In the case of an air duel, Erdogan can do this. This will slow down the pace of attack on areas of Syria that Turkey itself wants to control. And it will make it difficult for our aircraft to support the Syrian troops. And in the case of full-scale military operations on the Syrian-Turkish border, our air base is in a vulnerable position. NW will not be used in this case, because until the usual means have been exhausted, no one in the Turks will use nuclear weapons.
        2. 0
          31 January 2016 20: 07
          apparently only TARK "Peter the Great" will calm these downs
  3. +17
    31 January 2016 13: 36
    They press on RUSSIA to stop supporting Syria and not bomb their terrorists. Shish them. soldier
    1. +26
      31 January 2016 13: 47
      No, the current tension is on a different occasion. There, a large convoy of TOU cookies and milk of various calibers were burned immediately after crossing the border. Bearded little children in sorrow.
  4. +7
    31 January 2016 13: 36
    I do not understand their Turks. Is it really not clear that there will be a cross-border incident at such a pace? After they abandoned good relations with Putin, they no longer shine even by military means ...
    1. +28
      31 January 2016 13: 38
      In the meantime, we are not sitting either, SU-35 is already in Syria.
      1. 0
        31 January 2016 13: 42
        This is the 35th in the photo? They do not seem to be there ..?
        1. 0
          31 January 2016 13: 46
          Have you thrown it over? Missed ...
        2. +8
          31 January 2016 13: 47
          Quote: Observer 33
          This is the 35th in the photo? They do not seem to be there ..?

          Relocated either yesterday or today, accompanied by TU-154. The situation is heating up.
        3. +6
          31 January 2016 13: 51
          messages go that - Grouping is strengthened by four Su-35
          http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_p_1221403.html#1221403
      2. +6
        31 January 2016 14: 05
        In the meantime, we are not sitting either, SU-35 is already in Syria.

        announced the transfer of NATO AWACS to Turkey

        They’ve conceived something, but they need to know that Russia will respond asymmetrically to the answer to increasing pressure, and I already guess what it is.
        In general, Erdogan can bring down NATO and send troops to Syria. And as we recall from the Georgian experience, in this case, nothing will hinder Russia from getting a little to Ankara / Tbilisi
    2. +22
      31 January 2016 14: 06
      Ararat, must return to the Armenians! And then, panimash, even tourists and researchers are not allowed. The ark needs to be found!
      1. +1
        31 January 2016 14: 38
        Quote: armored optimist
        Ararat, must return to the Armenians!

        And where do you get 10 million Kurds from these lands? After all, the lands in which the Armenians lived, now live the Kurds, not the Turks.
        1. +7
          31 January 2016 14: 43
          Quote: Yeraz
          And where do you get 10 million Kurds from these lands? After all, the lands in which the Armenians lived, now live the Kurds, not the Turks.

          They will have to become Armenians. Although I do not think that the Kurds will be strongly opposed, given the fact that the Turks are doing with them now.
          1. +6
            31 January 2016 14: 56
            Quote: Misha Honest
            Quote: Yeraz
            And where do you get 10 million Kurds from these lands? After all, the lands in which the Armenians lived, now live the Kurds, not the Turks.

            They will have to become Armenians. Although I do not think that the Kurds will be strongly opposed, given the fact that the Turks are doing with them now.

            But the Armenians will be against it. Slaughtered Armenians not only Turks but also the Kurds tried their best.
            1. +6
              31 January 2016 15: 04
              Quote: keel 31
              But the Armenians will be against it. Slaughtered Armenians not only Turks but also the Kurds tried their best.

              Maybe. However, now the Kurds are being cut out, just like the Armenians before. In addition, it was the Kurds who now sheltered, feed and protect the Armenian diaspora of Syria and Iraq ... Is this not enough?
              1. 0
                31 January 2016 20: 08
                Have you forgotten to ask Georgians?
                Georgia claims to many lands in Eastern Turkey, which Armenia claims (well, except for Ararat itself).
                Let me remind you that it was precisely the disagreements between the Armenian SSR and the Georgian SSR over who should leave the eastern Turkish lands, which was the first reason for the delay, and then (after Turkey received guarantees from England and the USA) and the cancellation of the invasion of our army, specially concentrated for this in Transcaucasia in 1945.
                Watch from 09: 09
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNyFx3PNwA
                1. 0
                  31 January 2016 22: 53
                  Quote: Seal
                  Have you forgotten to ask Georgians?
                  Georgia claims to many lands in Eastern Turkey, which Armenia claims (well, except for Ararat itself).
                  Let me remind you that it was precisely the disagreements between the Armenian SSR and the Georgian SSR over who should leave the eastern Turkish lands, which was the first reason for the delay, and then (after Turkey received guarantees from England and the USA) and the cancellation of the invasion of our army, specially concentrated for this in Transcaucasia in 1945.
                  Watch from 09: 09

                  Sorry, but after the Georgians staged in South Ossetia, I somehow do not care about their opinion. They had to be rolled right away in 08, as a pancake in a pan - they deserved it. request
        2. +5
          31 January 2016 14: 53
          By the way, the homeland of the Turks is Turkmenistan. However, like Azerbaijanis. Indeed, by blood, you are one people. Aren't you ashamed of what your brothers have been doing for centuries? Nothing personal - just curious.
          1. +7
            31 January 2016 14: 55
            Quote: Misha Honest
            By the way, the homeland of the Turks is Turkmenistan. However, like Azerbaijanis. Indeed, by blood, you are one people. Aren't you ashamed of what your brothers have been doing for centuries? Nothing personal - just curious.

            Immediately inspired good
          2. 0
            31 January 2016 15: 17
            Quote: Misha Honest
            By the way, the homeland of the Turks is Turkmenistan. However, like Azerbaijanis.


            Actually, their homeland is Altai, but they must give it to me in scrap. smile
            1. +4
              31 January 2016 15: 43
              Quote: Weyland
              Actually, their homeland is Altai,

              This is only according to the Turks themselves. That's just something in Altai and I didn’t see a trace of culture - even close to the Turks ... request Watch out, as usual.
              1. +1
                31 January 2016 16: 57
                Quote: Misha Honest
                something in Altai and I didn’t see a trace of culture - even close to the Turks


                And what, the Turks once had own (not borrowed from Byzantium and Iran) culture? I have not heard ...
              2. 0
                31 January 2016 16: 57
                Quote: Misha Honest
                something in Altai and I didn’t see a trace of culture - even close to the Turks


                And what, the Turks once had own (not borrowed from Byzantium and Iran) culture? I have not heard ...
            2. 0
              1 February 2016 21: 33
              The Ottomans come from completely different territories.
          3. 0
            1 February 2016 04: 26
            Quote: Misha Honest
            By the way, the homeland of the Turks is Turkmenistan. However, like Azerbaijanis. Indeed, by blood, you are one people. Aren't you ashamed of what your brothers have been doing for centuries? Nothing personal - just curious.

            Well, you have one info, I have another.
            I will say one thing among the Turkic peoples there is 1 proverb. My land is where the hooves of my horse are.
            What the Armenians did and what the Kurds are doing right now, Azerbaijanis would have cut them all out. And the Turkmens would have cut them out with torment. The Kurds will finish the game. They will not cut anyone out. But there is complete e = humiliation of all Turkish and murder of the security forces. And the Turks are as soft as possible they are treating him. In Azerbaijan, all the relatives of these terrorists would be cut out, as in Chechnya. And there the terrorist’s brother, deputy and generally the terrorists, calmly harass Turkey from the stands of the state. Such things did not happen in Russia even in the best years of Ichkeria.
            1. +1
              1 February 2016 06: 16
              Quote: Yeraz
              There is one proverb. My land is where the hooves of my horse are.

              That is, no hooves - no land? Need to remember smile
              Quote: Yeraz
              This did not happen in Russia even in the best years of Ichkeria.

              Oh how! Yes, you, my friend, .. kind ... "I will cut, I will beat - all the same to you to feign"?
              In other words, "best years" are when you can slaughter other people with impunity? Sorry if I misunderstood you.
              1. 0
                1 February 2016 19: 54
                Quote: SklochPensioner
                Oh how! Yes, you, my friend, .. kind ... "I will cut, I will beat - all the same to you to feign"?

                What are you about???
                Quote: SklochPensioner
                In other words, "best years" are when you can slaughter other people with impunity? Sorry if I misunderstood you.

                I mean the best years of Ichkeria, when they had the power to behave impudently towards the Federal government, including cutting, killing, saying whatever they want. That is, they had maximum freedom. So the Kurds allow themselves more.
                You can imagine right now that in the State Duma there should be a party closely connected with terrorists, where the head of the party, Brother of the incumbent Terrorist, and this head of the party from the rostrum of the Duma, would say We will defeat the Russian army ??? Never in life. And this is reality in Turkey.
            2. -1
              1 February 2016 10: 26
              How many wonderful discoveries are to us ...
              the Turks in general, as a nation, are a fusion of many peoples. And some sort of "ancestral home they have at the root. This is a cauldron where the mixed-tribe Turks and Greeks and Cossacks and other rabble of that time. From all over Asia. So" Turks-Turkmenistan ", nonsense that does not stand up to criticism.
              1. 0
                1 February 2016 11: 34
                Quote: guzik007
                How many wonderful discoveries are to us ...
                the Turks in general, as a nation, are a fusion of many peoples. And some sort of "ancestral home they have at the root. This is a cauldron where the mixed-tribe Turks and Greeks and Cossacks and other rabble of that time. From all over Asia. So" Turks-Turkmenistan ", nonsense that does not stand up to criticism.

                What are you saying? lol What is your assessment of history?
                As for the Turks-Turkmenistan, I roughly indicated the territory where the Turks came from.
                Type in the TURKEY-SELJUKI browser or here is the article: http://www.comunicom.ru/home/948-seljuks.html
                1. 0
                  1 February 2016 22: 03
                  Today's "Turks" are descendants of the Ottomans, not the Seljuk Turks
                  1. 0
                    2 February 2016 19: 12
                    Quote: KaPToC
                    Today's "Turks" are descendants of the Ottomans, not the Seljuk Turks


                    I beg of you! If Seljuk personally came from the Oguz clan of the Kynik, and personally Osman came from the Oguz clan of the Kayi, so that all the fragments of the Seljuk Empire united by the Ottomans also turned into Kai?
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        3. +1
          31 January 2016 19: 52
          Quote: Yeraz
          After all, the lands in which the Armenians lived, now live the Kurds

          And maybe vice versa. The term "Hurrians", who lived on these lands long before the appearance of Armenians on them, is very much like the expression "Kurds".
          By the way, Georgia claims to many lands in Eastern Turkey, which Armenia claims (well, except for Ararat itself).
          Let me remind you that it was precisely the disagreements between the Armenian SSR and the Georgian SSR over who should leave the eastern Turkish lands, which was the first reason for the delay, and then (after Turkey received guarantees from England and the USA) and the cancellation of the invasion of our army, specially concentrated for this in Transcaucasia in 1946.
          1. 0
            31 January 2016 21: 29
            In 1945 year.
            Watch from 09: 09
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmNyFx3PNwA
          2. 0
            1 February 2016 20: 00
            Quote: Seal
            And maybe vice versa.

            Well, then we get to the time of Adam and Eve.
            And in fact, 3 peoples claim there. Turks, Kurds and Armenians.
            Physically, mainly Kurds live there, Armenians lived before them, and there are no other inhabitants anymore. Before that, the current center of ardent separatism in Turkey, the city of Diyarbakir, was generally the capital of the state of modern Azerbaijanis. State of Akkoyunlu. Right now, most Azerbaijanis are only in 3 major cities of this region, Kars, Igdir and Erzurum. And in the remaining regions, the majority are Kurds.
            1. 0
              2 February 2016 19: 45
              Quote: Yeraz
              the city of Diyarbakir was generally the capital of the state of the current Azerbaijanis. State Akkoyunlu


              Well, Kara-koyunlu and Ak-koyunlu can be attributed to both Turkmens and Turkoman smile
              And who is Tamerlane's nationality? He came from the mangyt family, which in our time is part of the Hungarian Kumans, Kazakhs, Karakalpaks, Crimean Tatars, Nogais, Limes (Polish-Lithuanian Tatars) and Uzbeks!
              1. 0
                3 February 2016 03: 57
                Quote: Weyland
                Well, Kara-koyunlu and Ak-koyunlu can be attributed to both Turkmens and Turkoman

                Well, who are the current Azerbaijanis and Turks? Turkmens.
                It was Stalin who decided to name the whole Turkic people as Azerbaijanis. At that time, all were Turkmens and Turks. There is no ethnic Azerbaijanian.
                Quote: Weyland
                And who is Tamerlane's nationality?

                Turkom. Just the words Türk are not in Turkic languages. All Türk xalqaları. That is, Türkic peoples.
            2. 0
              2 February 2016 20: 03
              Quote: Yeraz
              the city of Diyarbakir was generally the capital of the state of the current Azerbaijanis. State Akkoyunlu


              Well, Kara-koyunlu and Ak-koyunlu can be attributed to both Turkmens and Turkoman smile
              And who is Tamerlane's nationality? He came from the mangyt family, which in our time is part of the Hungarian Kumans, Kazakhs, Karakalpaks, Crimean Tatars, Nogais, Limes (Polish-Lithuanian Tatars) and Uzbeks!
          3. 0
            2 February 2016 19: 20
            Quote: Seal
            The term "Hurrians", who lived on these lands long before the appearance of Armenians on them, is very much like the expression "Kurds".


            Yes, but the ethnonym "Hurrians" completely disappears from the chronicles after the collapse of Mittanni (and there is no evidence that the Nairi who replaced them are precisely the ancestors of the Armenians). But in Xenophon's "Anabasis" kardukhs (Kurds) and Armenians are indicated as neighbors - 15 centuries before the appearance of the Turks in the region
          4. 0
            2 February 2016 19: 20
            Quote: Seal
            The term "Hurrians", who lived on these lands long before the appearance of Armenians on them, is very much like the expression "Kurds".


            Yes, but the ethnonym "Hurrians" completely disappears from the chronicles after the collapse of Mittanni (and there is no evidence that the Nairi who replaced them are precisely the ancestors of the Armenians). But in Xenophon's "Anabasis" kardukhs (Kurds) and Armenians are indicated as neighbors - 15 centuries before the appearance of the Turks in the region
        4. 0
          31 January 2016 20: 20
          Hurrians lived before the Armenians. The name of which clearly shows "Kurds" ..
    3. +1
      31 January 2016 15: 36
      "Nothing shines for them even by military means ..."

      Well, just by military means, everything is vague. Turks:
      1. Half-million army at the theater of the VD.
      2. 3,5 Thousands of tanks, albeit trash, but everyone needs to be knocked out.
      3. We may stupidly not have enough ammunition.
      4. And the situation can vividly recall the Russo-Japanese war. Yes Yes. One to one.
      We are stronger than the enemy, fed and set on us. Remote theater, with all the consequences of the problems of supply, fire support, evacuation, repair, etc.
      And the world op. Guess once who the aggressor is.
      5. Sticks to insert into our wheels will really insert everything NATI and not only.
      6. All this in history was ...
      7. Erdogan is not. Here you need to think how to get it. A rocket back and forth, this is for young men, and not for her husband.
      1. +2
        31 January 2016 19: 53
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Well, just by military means, everything is vague. Turks:
        1. Half-million army at the theater of the VD.
        2. 3,5 Thousands of tanks, albeit trash, but everyone needs to be knocked out.
        3. We may stupidly not have enough ammunition.
        4. And the situation can vividly recall the Russo-Japanese war. Yes Yes. One to one.
        We are stronger than the enemy, fed and set on us. Remote theater, with all the consequences of the problems of supply, fire support, evacuation, repair, etc.
        And the world op. Guess once who the aggressor is.
        5. Sticks to insert into our wheels will really insert everything NATI and not only.
        6. All this in history was ...
        7. Erdogan is not. Here you need to think how to get it. A rocket back and forth, this is for young people

        That's why I said that you can chew a snot, and start and end with one blow, 100 KR with a special warhead for 10-50 kt is quite enough .. That's right! Everything else is profanity. and only arousing appetite, getting involved in a long and unnecessary conflict. And then the check and checkmate, the military potential of Turkey was nullified, no one even managed to blather. We have no losses, and the troops ready for everything BUT the most important thing is that the adversary will understand that he will receive everything and everything in return and there will be no doubt about it! This is the most important result of this operation, it is after this that the review of relations will begin, and all sanctions and other sanctions will be lifted .. The enemy will understand that they have played too much, and the next stage will be HIS full zeroing, that absolutely no need to cheat so the main thing is not to chew snot, but with one blow put an end to this gadyushnik, so the chances are an order of magnitude greater than in a sluggish conflict using conventional means ..
        1. +1
          1 February 2016 00: 00
          Not. About five years after this, the West will not talk offended.
          1. 0
            1 February 2016 12: 17
            Quote: zvereok
            Not. About five years after this, the West will not talk offended.

            Yes, where are they going! They need us more than we need them! On the contrary, the next day in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs there will be a line of ambassadors from different countries, and everyone will assure of friendship and cooperation .. Especially if one racket is planted in Erdogan’s palace .. MONEY and FEAR rule the world! Especially the fear of losing both money and life .. As long as the USA has implemented this formula, they all lick it as they can .. We don’t need licking! But to fear shitting, they were afraid (especially at the direction)!
      2. +1
        31 January 2016 20: 14
        I do not agree!
        salvo of Two - Three Brigades OTRK Iskander will quickly sober up any enemy, even Turkey!
        72 KR in 15 minutes another 72 tons of explosives equivalent to 3,5 tons
        receives almost 150 missiles in 575 tons of explosives in two salvos
        + Black Sea Fleet
        + VKS 2 Su-34 regiment under Rostov and Voronezh = 48 units x 3 KR = almost 150 KR per departure
        this list of variations is endless !!!!
      3. 0
        1 February 2016 22: 12
        1 What is the use of it if Russia does not carry out ground operations?
        2 Tanks that have spent their resources do not need to be knocked out.
        3 Watching for what.
        4 You have two in geography
        5 How? What can they do from what they have not done?
        6 There have been many different events in history.
        7 You have rich young men with missiles.
    4. +5
      31 January 2016 17: 16
      They have nothing to understand. Financial tycoons (FRS) are saving their investments, they need an extreme who will be cannon fodder and a scapegoat. They found new Fuhrer, Poroshenko and Erdogan. We have a problem. With the industry that we have, our military equipment, aviation and navy especially will not last long. We should be able to build a hundred, or even two, planes per month. And we do not do hundreds a year.
  5. +9
    31 January 2016 13: 39
    I’m very surprised how the locator speaks, and even in Russian. But we don’t know how to speak Turkish and we have them painted green in green.
    1. +5
      31 January 2016 14: 51
      The Americans have confirmed. In pure English, but Putin was at the helm. True, Erdogan spoke in the toilet, while Putin understands German. But the locator understood something! Pancake.
      Like a drunken sergeant Otto Katz, for whom Schweik served as a batman "To the honor of Mr. sergeant, be told that he did not call the barracks, since he did not have a telephone, but simply spoke into a desk electric lamp,"
      1. 0
        1 February 2016 06: 36
        Quote: Stinger
        he didn’t have a phone, but simply talked into a desk electric lamp


        Bravo, Stinger, i.e. Y. Hasek! laughing laughing
  6. +2
    31 January 2016 13: 39
    Well warned and warned, warned, then armed.
  7. +4
    31 January 2016 13: 39
    The point is that we will be able to see aerial battles between the F-16 and SU-34.
    1. +11
      31 January 2016 13: 45
      Quote: Lepila
      The point is that we will be able to see aerial battles between the F-16 and SU-34.

      And you are glad! After all, everyone let down ..?
      1. +9
        31 January 2016 13: 57
        Mikhan, I personally am not happy, but the entot node will have to be untied ... I hope for our air defense and air force. Sorry, videoconferencing.
        And I also hope that someone will understand in time that it’s not worth contacting us ...
        1. +10
          31 January 2016 14: 21
          Quote: sabakina
          And I also hope that someone will understand in time that it’s not worth contacting us ...

          I hope so too ... but alas, I think you will have to BEAT! Before the Second World War, we also tried to avoid war .. (to intimidate and agree ..))) These devils of the world do not need .. They need to zero their debts, due to the war by someone else's hands! .. We will win as usual, but they will skim the cream again ! If you fight, then with the "ASPEN'S NEST OF THE WORLD", maybe then there will be a sense ... And where it is, no one knows! Washington, London ..? NO! Looking for ...
          1. -1
            31 January 2016 15: 43
            Why look for it? It’s only going to America now (Yelstone is awakening, it seems) But Singapore, as it were, is on the sidelines from all affairs and misfortunes. It seems that everyone has moved there, the Morgan at least for sure.
    2. +5
      31 January 2016 13: 53
      In general, I see nothing good in this!
    3. 0
      31 January 2016 14: 32
      Then between the F-16 and the Su-30. 34 other things are full ...
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    5. +1
      31 January 2016 15: 42
      Rather, between the F-16 and Su-35S
      Russia threw the latest SU-35S fighters to Syria. Today.
      http://warfiles.ru/show-107125-rossiya-perebrosila-v-siriyu-zveno-noveyshih-su-3
      5.html
    6. 0
      31 January 2016 20: 15
      and to the fact that the S-400 SAM will be tested in combat mode
    7. 0
      2 February 2016 02: 57
      Quote: Lepila
      The point is that we will be able to see aerial battles between the F-16 and SU-34.

      Do you want F-16 vs Su-35?
  8. +10
    31 January 2016 13: 39
    The main thing is that our generals are not cowardly and are prepared for everything.
    1. +2
      31 January 2016 16: 11
      In this case, it's not about the generals. The matter is in the order. If the generals are ordered, they will answer without hesitation.
      1. 0
        31 January 2016 16: 50
        Quote: abrakadabre
        In this case, it's not about the generals. The matter is in the order. If the generals are ordered, they will answer without hesitation.

        Was Putin personally not allowing the S-400 to be sent to Syria for cover until they shot down our Su-24? It is not necessary to wait for orders, but to make a decision, in case of a fighting situation, it may be too late to call the Kremlin for approval. Remember the case of a downed Korean Boeing, the head of the air defense gave the order to destroy the aircraft in the territory controlled by him without personal red tape and approvals.
        As for the generals, then remember the Second World War, 86 division commanders (major generals) were captured by the Germans, this was not the case in any country in the world.

        Distribution by years of capture of the highest military ranks:

        1941 - 66 people
        1942 - 15 people
        1943 - 4 people
        1944 - 1 people
        Drive in a search engine:
        -List of top Soviet officers captured during the Great Patriotic War-
        1. +3
          31 January 2016 18: 50
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          86 division commanders (major generals) Germans captured

          Quote: Lt. air force reserve

          1941 - 66 people
          1942 - 15 people
          1943 - 4 people
          1944 - 1 people

          Считаем: 66+15+4+1=86 человек.
          Well, our German generals also picked up: "As of October 1946, 1 German prisoners of war remained in the GUPVI camps, special hospitals of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and workers' battalions of the USSR Ministry of Armed Forces, including 354 generals, 759 officers, 352 non-commissioned officers. and a private. " http://voprosik.net/nemeckie-plennye-v-sssr/
          1. +1
            31 January 2016 19: 33
            Quote: V.ic
            "As of October 1946, 1 German prisoners of war, including 354 generals, 759 officers, 352 non-commissioned officers and a private, remained in the GUPVI camps, special hospitals of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and workers' battalions of the USSR Ministry of Armed Forces."

            not quite so, the data vary, since in the USSR they kept records of prisoners of nationality. featured, for example, Hungarians, Austrians, Germans, Czechs, Italians, Norwegians, custodians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Czechs, Danes, Poles and others who fought on the side of Hitler.
            “The problem, however, is that these figures do not speak of the number of Wehrmacht and SS soldiers captured by the Soviet side. UPVI / GUPVI kept records of prisoners of war not by their citizenship or belonging to the armed forces of any country, but by their nationality, in some cases, and ethnicity - in others (see table). In a first approximation, the number of Wehrmacht and SS troops captured by Soviet captivity is 2 638 679 people, and together with 14,1 thousand war criminals, 93,9 thousand who did not live to be placed in the camp, and 600 thousand liberated who passed the camp, gives a figure of 3 346 679 people - which is even slightly higher than the estimate of German historians.

            It should also be noted that German prisoners of war actively tried to “disguise themselves” among other nationalities - as of May 1950, such “camouflaged captured Germans”, according to official Soviet data, were identified among prisoners of war of other nationalities, 58 people. "
            here is the link: http: //smolbattle.ru/threads/German- prisoners of war- in-SSSR.25340/

            But here again there are a number of questions. Prisoners were captured in many counter-offensives of the Red Army at the beginning and the first half of the war, and due to a certain strategic situation, many were simply not "brought" to special points, which, in view of the same situation, were not many.
            Moreover, these losses of the Wehrmacht and their allies were not included in the combat losses and were more likely to be recognized b / c. missing.
            Atomization spraying by departments, according to nat. accessories and ideological considerations in the USSR do not give a complete picture of prisoners of war during the years of the Second World War.
            For my part, I can say that communicating with many search engines and historians of the Second World War, many unknown facts are revealed by the number of Wehrmacht prisoners of war, again in a big way.
            Again, the smugglers from that side were not included in the military lists or corresponded with us, and the question was the proletariat, but the question was not fundamental, and here we were already looking into the future of New Germany!
            Ps. It is safe to say that there were significantly more prisoners of Hitler’s allies following the war results than Soviet prisoners of war, of course, excluding the Soviet civilian population. soldier
          2. 0
            31 January 2016 20: 26
            Quote: V.ic
            Well, our German generals also picked up: "As of October 1946, 1 German prisoners of war remained in the GUPVI camps, special hospitals of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and workers' battalions of the USSR Ministry of Armed Forces, including 354 generals, 759 officers, 352 non-commissioned officers. and a private. " http://voprosik.net/nemeckie-plennye-v-sssr/

            Germany capitulated like Japan, I mean those countries that fought and won without capitulation.
  9. +6
    31 January 2016 13: 39
    At the same time, Russia sent a Su 35s link to Syria, probably by accident ... recourse
    1. +1
      31 January 2016 15: 38
      Quote: kg pv
      At the same time, Russia sent a Su 35s link to Syria, probably by accident ... recourse

      Yes sir! GLONASS argued with GPS. GLONASS won!
  10. +11
    31 January 2016 13: 39
    Osman has nowhere to go. goes to the end_ of its end. GDP ignores him, NATO is neutral (even with all the bad rhetoric). all that remains for him is to bend his rotten line. but it is clear to everyone that Erdogan destroyed the failed empire.
  11. +33
    31 January 2016 13: 39
    "orange" level, which, formally means that a collision can occur at any moment, and that the forces must be prepared for defense and attack. "
    1. +5
      31 January 2016 13: 54
      Well this (pictured) is clearly superfluous! winked
      It’s possible and simpler to manage, in which case!
  12. +14
    31 January 2016 13: 40
    Now let them try to cross the Syrian border !!! I think the challenge was accepted by the Russian Aerospace Forces Command. Erdogan rushes from one extreme to another. The Turks are carrying rubbish. Why didn't they bring down the Sushka that violated the border ??? Is your gut thin? It is so easy to speak under the umbrella of NATO. And making a decision on your own is more difficult. You will have to answer for decisions. And these are not the "tomatoes" promised by Putin yet. Tomatoes they can and come off by chance. One wrong move and ... bye.
    1. ZKB
      +11
      31 January 2016 13: 47
      Su-34 is not so easy to shoot down, this is not an old bomber, here and in return you can get pretty good
    2. ZKB
      0
      31 January 2016 13: 47
      Su-34 is not so easy to shoot down, this is not an old bomber, here and in return you can get pretty good
      1. -1
        31 January 2016 17: 41
        What's so special? Not old ones will fly into it, and no one received an answer for the old one.
        1. ZKB
          0
          31 January 2016 20: 08
          so old-aged missiles must overcome the still-old defense system ... and where did the Turks get old-aged ???
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  13. +13
    31 January 2016 13: 41
    What's so surprising .... Assad presses on the Turks related to the Turks .... They yell and ask for the Ottoman "north wind".
    For the Turkish army, Erdogan urgently needs to find a "shot in Sarajevo" ... or come up with.
  14. +10
    31 January 2016 13: 42
    The next provocation is brewing.
  15. Jan2016
    +3
    31 January 2016 13: 42
    Trying to push Turkey and Russia between their foreheads? This is me about the statement of NATO. It is interesting, but what will happen if the Turks fly in as they fly into the airspace of Greece. And in general, how are things with the Americans in Syria? Another reconnaissance in force and an attempt to intimidate Russia in Syria is unambiguous.
    1. +3
      31 January 2016 13: 53
      Or maybe he just attracts attention? He wanted to meet with Putin, but he doesn’t even sheepish ... The voice of Erdogan crying in the desert, maybe ..?
      1. +20
        31 January 2016 14: 03
        Quote: Observer 33
        He wanted to meet with Putin, but he doesn’t even sheepish ...

        Let the fidget fidget.
  16. +4
    31 January 2016 13: 42
    Erdogan did not untie the Gordian knot, he decided to cut it, he was tired of waiting, he shows decisiveness with all kinds of ... But, this is where fear is hidden !!!
  17. +2
    31 January 2016 13: 42
    It is time for the Turks to turn on the "blue" alarm level.
  18. +7
    31 January 2016 13: 42
    Yes, even if he violated, let his little stigma be washed away from the cannon, under-imperials, yoshkt. These are not in the back of the old man on the 24th to pull and close. The 34th to whom you want heaps without worrying too much.
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 17: 43
      What is heaping? Than?
      1. 0
        31 January 2016 20: 09
        Quote: DmitryK
        What is heaping? Than?


        From RPGs on nozzles, damn it, for those who wish, and the crew still have makars that they would not have suffered.
      2. 0
        1 February 2016 07: 26
        There is something to answer. Only, unlike the SGA and its sixes, Russia has a head and a mind. Just suspend and cut once.
  19. +6
    31 January 2016 13: 45
    It seems no coincidence that 30.01.16 announced an alarm in the anti-aircraft missile brigade near Chelyabinsk. An exchange of courtesies, however.
    1. +3
      31 January 2016 15: 43
      Quote: carbine sks
      It seems no coincidence that 30.01.16 announced an alarm in the anti-aircraft missile brigade near Chelyabinsk. An exchange of courtesies, however.

      Chelyabinsk anti-aircraft gunners are so harsh that the night does not come until the anti-aircraft gunners go to bed.
      It was a joke of humor ...
      1. +3
        31 January 2016 20: 15
        Quote: sabakina
        Chelyabinsk anti-aircraft gunners are so harsh that the night does not come until the anti-aircraft gunners go to bed.


        They are already afraid of meteorites - one knocked out, the rest do not poke themselves.
  20. +8
    31 January 2016 13: 46
    Turkish Air Force announces highest alert level
    So what? Should we be scared? Fools ...
  21. +8
    31 January 2016 13: 47
    in Syria, su35? it is already interesting and promising.
  22. +4
    31 January 2016 13: 48
    This is the rationale for the new provocation.
    And we also need to be more careful at sea. There were already training approaches to the setup.
  23. +5
    31 January 2016 13: 48
    Erdogash is being pushed towards the war with the Russian Federation, with the same zeal as Hitler once drove to fight the USSR, in order to then finish off and share what remains of Turkey
    1. +6
      31 January 2016 14: 15
      "Erdogash is pushed towards the war with the Russian Federation, with the same zeal as they once drove Hitler to fight the USSR, in order to finish off and divide what remains of Turkey"

      Chur us Bosphorus! Let's see how the Americans in the Black Sea will roam.
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      2. +6
        31 January 2016 15: 22
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Chur us Bosphorus!


        And the Dardanelles - otherwise it makes no sense!
        Who owns the Crimea and the Straits - that dominates The Mediterranean sea!
        1. +2
          31 January 2016 16: 15
          Definitely, only both straits and the entire Sea of ​​Marmara. And the European part will not hurt completely.
          Dream on the rights, if someone does not understand.
          1. -4
            31 January 2016 17: 46
            I think the Mediterranean resorts of Antalya are more important to us, and for this the straits.
        2. 0
          1 February 2016 22: 20
          Giblthars are too tough for us.
  24. +9
    31 January 2016 13: 48
    the turbobamous gan.ones completely messed up the rams, the sons of the jackals and the grandchildren of donkeys - well, they don’t want to live on earth, all of them are going to hell, these corrupt hyenas
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 20: 20
      Quote: SNEK VIPER
      all of them are drawn to hell, these venal hyenas


      Home, to the base, to the SOURCES.
  25. +7
    31 January 2016 13: 51
    Israel and Saudi, together with the USA clap their hands in joy! It turned out ... hehe Russia will not fight the Turks, we have another plan! And the Turks are deer ....
    1. +4
      31 January 2016 13: 56
      Reindeer can also be beaten off. Carefully.
      1. +3
        31 January 2016 14: 31
        Quote: Al_oriso
        Reindeer can also be beaten off. Carefully.

        In principle, yes ... When a mongrel, you kick good with your foot, she bastard runs to the owner with a screech .... And then the showdown begins real! bully
        1. +1
          31 January 2016 16: 50
          Quote: MIKHAN
          she bastard to the owner runs with a screech.

          So you can not kick a mongrel, but bang and dig. feel
          1. 0
            31 January 2016 22: 25
            Quote: Vladimirets
            So you can not kick a mongrel, but bang and dig.


            With the owner right away, that would not be malicious zlobich.
    2. +1
      31 January 2016 16: 24
      Well, what are you like, though ... why are there deer, they are deer in Turkey
    3. +1
      31 January 2016 19: 34
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Israel and Saudi, together with the USA clap their hands in joy! It turned out ... hehe Russia will not fight the Turks, we have another plan! And the Turks are deer ....

      Field Marshal write more about Israel and become a Generalissimo wassat
      If this is Russia's cunning plan to impose sanctions in response to a downed plane and shot flyers, then I don’t know how Israel is, but I’m at a loss request
      1. 0
        2 February 2016 03: 07
        Quote: Hello

        If this is Russia's cunning plan to impose sanctions in response to a downed plane and shot flyers, then I don’t know how Israel is, but I’m at a loss request

        What would you advise? Very curious.
  26. 0
    31 January 2016 13: 52
    We'll see. In any case, it is not for us to decide.
    The crash of our plane will not be allowed
    but how?
    And yet I would not want to bring down a Turkish plane.
    For then, Turkey and NATO will have the right to retaliate.
    1. +2
      31 January 2016 22: 46
      Quote: Zomanus
      And yet I would not want to bring down a Turkish plane.
      For then, Turkey and NATO will have the right to retaliate.

      Well, if THIS happens in the airspace of Syria, then they will not have any rights to anything. But we need to keep our ears sharp.
  27. +5
    31 January 2016 13: 52
    Russian VKS interfere with making money in Turkey (with the IG group). If you calculate how much counterfeit oil our pilots burned, there is already a liard of dollars.
  28. +3
    31 January 2016 13: 54
    Well, well, orange is so orange, but concrete steps will be?
  29. +5
    31 January 2016 13: 55
    According to the newspaper, in Turkey "there are three main levels of alarm:" white "(low probability of attack)," yellow "(there is a probability of attack) and" red "(high probability of collision or war)."

    However, “for the Air Force, an“ orange ”level is also being introduced, which, formally, means that a collision can occur at any moment, and that the forces need to be ready for defense and attack,” the newspaper writes.
    Interestingly, do they have color marking of the levels of moronism and idiocy? Find out ...
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 16: 54
      "Orange" means that the pilots themselves can attack targets without the approval of high command - something like this! - they are preparing provocations - definitely !!!
  30. sgg
    +7
    31 January 2016 13: 55
    Turks begin to hysteria. So they understand that in Geneva at a meeting on the Syrian issue, success does not await them.
  31. 0
    31 January 2016 13: 55
    May we conclude a military alliance with the Greeks a. And a couple of times in the Aegean Sea to land Turkish phantoms eh? Something NATO does not express, but the systematic violations by the Turks of the sovereignty of the Greeks.
    1. +5
      31 January 2016 13: 59
      What for? The Greeks of us will suck instead of the EU.
    2. +8
      31 January 2016 14: 15
      And how do you see the military alliance of Russia with the country - a member of NATO? belay
    3. +5
      31 January 2016 14: 46
      May we conclude a military alliance with the Greeks a.
      From the same series: "Maybe I should marry an English queen? And cho, I agree ...".
      In the meantime, the Greeks on their territory provide rehabilitation assistance to wounded ukrovoyok. For which Tsipras recently personally thanked Parashenko.
  32. +8
    31 January 2016 13: 55
    The Turks were ordered from the mattresses to raise a howl about the alleged violation of the Turkish border by Russian aircraft, so the mattresses confirm this alleged violation. This is another test ball from the side of the mattresses to push us with the Turks. And the mattresses are deep in the drum that this could lead to the destruction of Turkey, as the leading state in the Middle East. I think somehow.
  33. +1
    31 January 2016 13: 57
    Quote: deputy ___ watered
    Cheap move! The main thing is to attract attention, and there the bibisi will sound that the Russians bombed Istanbul!)


    They’re getting kicked. It would be better if they sat quietly.
  34. +4
    31 January 2016 13: 57
    They want to return Constantinople to Russia! They decided to play the war game ... Let them first count how many times they were beaten!
    1. +5
      31 January 2016 14: 17
      return Constantinople to Russia! - But do not tell me by chance when he belonged to her (Russia) ??? wassat
      1. +3
        31 January 2016 14: 44
        Return to the successors of Byzantium.
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      3. +7
        31 January 2016 15: 28
        Quote: KBR109
        And do not tell by chance when he belonged to her (Russia) ???


        Moscow - The Third Rome. This legacy of Byzantium is an undelivered dowry in due time for Sophia Paleolog! So with them still interest for 500 years! laughing

        "Wee are right. Konigsberg is really effective nowadays, but it didn’t belong to Russia. But Warsaw - prynadlazhala! "(c)
        1. -1
          31 January 2016 16: 36
          Sorry, but this is ... EMPTY. Will you be one of the politicians? laughing
        2. +2
          31 January 2016 19: 14
          Quote: Weyland
          "Wee are right. Konigsberg really didn’t get it over Russia now. But Warsaw did it over!" (from)

          Let's leave this quote on the conscience of the author. For four years, East Prussia was part of the RI and was returned to Frederick II by Peter III. After the "sudden" death of "parsley", Russian officials began to re-establish Russian power in East Prussia, but received a "shortcut" from Catherine II and Prussia remained German until it was conquered by Napoleon the first, who, however, suggested that Alexander be the first to take it into the Republic of Ingushetia .. Alexander Pavlovich refused.
        3. +3
          31 January 2016 20: 41
          This legacy of Byzantium is an undelivered dowry in due time for Sophia Paleolog!

          Sophia (Zoya) Fominichna Palaeologus had no inheritance, including the notorious "library". Her dad, Thomas Palaeologus, the younger brother of the last emperor, himself was never an emperor and was not even called. Moreover, in addition to his daughter Zoya, he had two sons, who would have inherited some kind of inheritance, if it were. In addition, in the West at that time, the emperors recognized the descendants of those Latin emperors whom the Greeks expelled from Constantinople in 1261.
          The accidental capture of Constantinople by the Nicene Greeks in 1261 was a HUGE mistake. The gigantic city, where all the government institutions of the previously strong Nicene Empire (and instantly swollen several times), moved all the juices from the strong prosperous peasant Nicene Empire in less than 100 years. In order to keep the depraved Constantinople on the territory of the former Nicene Empire, taxes were increased many times over. The peasants were ruined. Instead of the national army of the Nicene Empire, a mercenary army began to prevail in the "revived" Byzantine Empire of the Palaeologus, for the maintenance of which money was required. European mercenaries were expensive and the Byzantine emperors began to hire Ottoman Turks. As a payment, they gave them whole areas of the former Nicene Empire, which they no longer really needed in Constantinople. After some time, almost the entire territory of the former Nicene Empire peacefully came under the control of the Ottomans.
          1. 0
            1 February 2016 11: 18
            Quote: Seal
            After some time, almost the entire territory of the former Nicene Empire peacefully passed under the control of the Ottomans.

            Who are you hanging on to? And most importantly why? "On May 29, early in the morning, the last assault on Constantinople began. The first attacks were repulsed, but then the wounded Giustiniani left the city and fled to Galata. The Turks were able to take the main gate of the Byzantine capital. they found his wounded body, they cut off his head and hoisted him on a pole. Three days in Constantinople there were robberies and violence. The Turks killed in a row everyone they met on the streets: men, women, children. Streams of blood flowed down the steep streets of Constantinople from the hills of Petra to Golden Horn." http://hram-troicy.prihod.ru/articles/view/id/1166651
          2. 0
            2 February 2016 22: 42
            Quote: Seal
            Thomas Paleolog, the younger brother of the last emperor, himself was never an emperor and was not even called. Moreover, in addition to Zoe’s daughter, he had two sons, who would have inherited some kind of inheritance, if it had been


            Of course - but right on the Byzantine throne Thomas Paleologus had, and their 3rd Ivan bought out with his sons (they were prudently preferring a sickly real dough to very, very ephemeral rights smile ).
          3. 0
            2 February 2016 22: 42
            Quote: Seal
            Thomas Paleolog, the younger brother of the last emperor, himself was never an emperor and was not even called. Moreover, in addition to Zoe’s daughter, he had two sons, who would have inherited some kind of inheritance, if it had been


            Of course - but right on the Byzantine throne Thomas Paleologus had, and their 3rd Ivan bought out with his sons (they were prudently preferring a sickly real dough to very, very ephemeral rights smile ).
        4. +1
          1 February 2016 07: 33
          We poorly know the story: the city of Berlin in Old Slavic is a lying bear and London is in the same bosom of the river. So a lot of things used to belong to us.
      4. 0
        31 January 2016 15: 28
        Quote: KBR109
        And do not tell by chance when he belonged to her (Russia) ???


        Moscow - The Third Rome. This legacy of Byzantium is an undelivered dowry in due time for Sophia Paleolog! So with them still interest for 500 years! laughing

        "Wee are right. Konigsberg is really effective nowadays, but it didn’t belong to Russia. But Warsaw - prynadlazhala! "(c)
        1. +1
          31 January 2016 16: 27
          This dialogue was about Lviv and Warsaw. request
          1. 0
            31 January 2016 18: 30
            I also heard the version about Lviv. But the Poles also claimed Koenigsberg (2/3 of East Prussia got it for free, but I really wanted it all)
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      5. +1
        31 January 2016 16: 11
        Quote: KBR109
        return Constantinople to Russia! - And do not tell me by chance when he belonged to her (Russia) ??

        In 907 year smile
        1. +1
          31 January 2016 16: 33
          The outskirts were ravaged by a raid and a trade agreement favorable to the Russians was concluded. Compensation paid but EVEN ATTEMPT TO STORM THE CITY WASN’T. tongue
      6. -3
        31 January 2016 18: 45
        ... Constantinople was founded by Dmitry Donskoy = Constantine the Great ..
        1. +3
          31 January 2016 21: 05
          Quote: ver_
          ... Constantinople was founded by Dmitry Donskoy = Constantine the Great ..

          Founded by Dmitry, i.e. Konstantin ... Well, everything is correct, and the main thing is logical!laughing
          Can I find out your source of information?
        2. -1
          1 February 2016 11: 27
          Quote: ver_
          Constantinople founded by Dmitry Donskoy = Constantine the Great ..

          Timur Shaov. Developing Fomenko. http://song5.ru
          Poor Nestor spoiled at the smoky eyes of a torch - he wrote the annals. He was old, for this reason everything got mixed up, mixed up, misinterpreted ...
          But we are cunning descendants: We know more, we drill deeper. In historical science Everything is otherwise denounced. ...
          Founded Moscow is not Dolgoruky, not even Luzhkov, which, in general, is strange. They founded Rem and Romulus - the grandchildren of the Japanese Hagan Genghis Khan.
          There was such a Chinggis, a Japanese kagan, His barbarians were nicknamed Brahmaputra, He is Alexander the Great, He is Yaroslav and he is Wise.
          In the ancient Scythian city of Paris, the Persians lived, or rather the Bulgars, Well, they are Turks and they are Not quite reasonable Khazars.
          Romulus with Rem, they are Deer with Askold, Avenged them for Igor, for his brother. The battle was on the Kulikovo field, On the site of the modern Arbat.
          They gave the heat to the Polovtsian fraternity - They were blown away until they were killed. In memory of the battle on the Arbat Casino "Metelitsa" was erected.
          In Yaroslavl, Yaroslavna is crying. In Nikolaev Nikolavna sobs. With toponymy, we’ll unroll the story. Who in Putivl rules? Ah ... well, let's forget ...
          Why are you bustling Herodotus, you still put me Gumilyov! After all, it’s clear even to the idiot that Grozny is the son of False Dmitry Donskoy.
          By the way, Grozny was not formidable in sight, He just wore a demonic dress And scared the boyars on Halloween, And they laughed: “Well, you are formidable, dad!”
          I saw a dagger on an old fresco And I realized that the Circassians discovered America - Circassian popokatepetl It means "We were not called here."
          The Egyptians could not build the Pyramids - this is a great work, So only Moldovans could plow Or, in extreme cases, Tajiks.
          Casanova was a Kazan khan And he held a harem of goals for three hundred. He was a khan, but he was not a boor, and he loved everyone with trepidation and purity.
          It’s a pity the harem wasn’t enough, the guy was like this - Forever little ... forever little ... Forever young!
          Galileo was born in Galilee - There was such a place in the Kuban. Cossacks are the ancient Jews, the Ancestors of modern Mishani.
          The ancient state of Urartu, If you look at the map now, It was formed from Uryupinsk and Tartu, And Urkagan is a ruler from Urartu.
          There was no Nero, And there was no Batu, probably, And in general - what happened before Gorbachev, On the whole, everything is very unreliable.
          Historians consider us fools, Archaeologists are always ready to cheat. Champagne was probably his Rosetta stone, I suppose, bought at the market in Biryulyovo.
          History - not hell for a ruble twenty, History needs a reevaluation, Thucydides and Tacitus thought so, They are also historians Nosovsky and Fomenko.
      7. 0
        31 January 2016 21: 34
        Quote: KBR109
        return Constantinople to Russia! - But do not tell me by chance when he belonged to her (Russia) ???

        I sing Oleg’s shield on the gates of Constantinople. ;-))
    2. +1
      31 January 2016 17: 49
      It was beaten not by managers, lawyers and economists, but by Russian peasants
  35. +4
    31 January 2016 14: 00
    Quote: MIKHAN
    I think you need to shoot down ... They just do not calm down! We shot down our attack aircraft.

    Shoot down is not so simple. The Turks themselves now do not fly close to the Syrian border.
    1. +2
      31 January 2016 14: 03
      Technically, no problem. Only then will it be necessary to blame everything on the error in calculating the S-400, which little will be believed.
    2. +4
      31 January 2016 15: 04
      Quote: Seal
      Quote: MIKHAN
      I think you need to shoot down ... They just do not calm down! We shot down our attack aircraft.

      Shoot down is not so simple. The Turks themselves now do not fly close to the Syrian border.

      Well this is understandable ... You can provoke it! You can do it in Greece (they like to fly there ...))) And the best thing is to place the missiles in Cuba or Nicaragua! Everything will stop right away ... (verified ..))))
      1. 0
        31 January 2016 15: 52
        Better in Cuba. And fit the "boreas". =)
      2. +2
        31 January 2016 17: 52
        The brains are crowded, the fantasies are spacious.
        1. 0
          31 January 2016 19: 17
          Quote: DmitryK
          The brains are crowded, the fantasies are spacious.

          Are you talking about yourself, darling?
  36. +3
    31 January 2016 14: 01
    However, the ameers, bri.ty, Turks and internal "modernizers" have taxed it.
  37. +10
    31 January 2016 14: 01
    And if the Turks shot down another plane? The president will again say on TV about another blow to the back, and that’s all over. Or this time there will be an adequate reaction, which I strongly doubt
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 14: 06
      Would you declare war on Turkey? Using nuclear weapons.
      1. +5
        31 January 2016 15: 08
        I would strike with an ordinary non-nuclear missile, take off the f-16 from the airport, this incident would be exhausted, and the tomatoes would not have to be banned, and Russia would not seem humiliated. The Turks showed aggression Russia responded and everything, confrontation with NATO did not would.
        1. VP
          +3
          31 January 2016 15: 24
          No, not exhausted. This is a military strike on the territory of a NATO member country.
          To bring down a Turk in Syria is one thing, to strike at another's territory is another.
          1. 0
            31 January 2016 15: 59
            Absolutely.
          2. +1
            31 January 2016 15: 59
            And why NATO countries are untouchable, they shot down our plane over the territory of another state, and do not worry. If NATO was not afraid then it wasn’t a fig to go into Syria at all, and if you got into it, then you have to play like an adult and not stay awake.
            1. 0
              31 January 2016 16: 02
              Not formally shot down. Turkey did not take responsibility.
              1. +1
                31 January 2016 18: 44
                Quote: Andrey77
                Not formally shot down. Turkey did not take responsibility.


                Well, if the Turkish president is not an official, then of course they didn’t bring down
                1. +1
                  31 January 2016 18: 53
                  .. well, and if some UFOs fall on the entot the very airdrome for an hour? Who will have a complaint - only to Allah ..
        2. -2
          31 January 2016 15: 56
          This is an attack on NATO, with all the consequences - up to the use of nuclear weapons. Turks formally in NATO.
          1. +3
            31 January 2016 16: 08
            And then what? The Baltic states or Norway will bring down our plane, and we will continue to vigil, they are NATO. Russia has already been pissing for 25 years now, the opportunity has appeared from a lying position to kneel down, and you are afraid to offer
            1. VP
              +1
              31 January 2016 16: 29
              No need to moan and dump everything in one pile. Erdogan has long regretted it and without bombing Istanbul.
              PS served in the army?
        3. +2
          31 January 2016 18: 05
          In Engerlic, American aircraft are based.
    2. -2
      31 January 2016 17: 56
      Our president turned all of Donbass and its inhabitants into a partisan Republic, living on help, donations and alms.
    3. 0
      1 February 2016 01: 27
      We heard the President’s order - in case of a threat to our planes, immediately destroy them;
  38. +5
    31 January 2016 14: 04
    Turks like Ukrainians do not know what to come up with the feeling that two ghoul brothers rule countries
    1. +6
      31 January 2016 14: 23
      Quote: mr.grin19z
      it feels like two ghoul brothers rule the countries

      They have one mom. smile
    2. 0
      3 February 2016 14: 08
      Nope. One striped ghoul that does not calm down in any way, although he knows that in the classical war he has a chance against the Russians - ZERO!
      So he invents all sorts of dirty tricks and tricks hybrid. A herd led them, believes that they are power. laughing
  39. +3
    31 January 2016 14: 05
    The main thing is that the Turks, with their provocations, themselves do not finish badly to the "brown" level.
    I hope that everything is in order with the laundry, i.e. with supplies.
  40. -3
    31 January 2016 14: 06
    Hooray ! Well, finally, and then they went around the bush, the real case is expected and NATO is probing.
  41. +8
    31 January 2016 14: 08
    It's time to wind up other warheads in Caliber. Can this reason the insane?
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 17: 58
      I hope you first of all
      1. 0
        3 February 2016 14: 15
        Russian to the extent less sensitive to their own skin than geyropetsy and geymerikosy.
        So, by and large, we don't care. It is not in our tradition to scratch with the tongue, therefore, the appearance of the "coolness" of the gamerikos is successfully supported by the mattress.
        When the big racket begins, all of this NATO will be a spit under our feet. It’s disgusting, of course, to fight with fagots, but nobody is going to take them prisoner, if that.
  42. +1
    31 January 2016 14: 08
    oh I would not want to
  43. +12
    31 January 2016 14: 08
    The Turks need to disrupt the peace talks on Syria. They refused to participate in them. Will be
    arrange any provocations while under the umbrella of NATO. Because how quickly the Americans confirmed
    "violation of the border" and through the NATO Secretary General made statements of support for the Turks, it becomes obvious that Erdogan received the go-ahead for further escalation of relations with Russia.
    And his "desire" to talk to Putin is also a planned bluff about trying to stop "Russian aggression" by peaceful means. Therefore, one must be prepared for sophisticated provocations not only from Turkey, but also from Ukraine. This can happen in parallel. There is only one customer.
    1. VP
      +1
      31 January 2016 15: 26
      And no one offered them to participate in them so that they refused.
  44. +3
    31 January 2016 14: 09
    The right path is Erdogan. I wonder what will strike back at the airfields from which fighters take off?
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 14: 13
      Currency. We have not yet used a full package of sanctions, including the complete expulsion of Turkish citizens from the Russian Federation. So far, "only" the tourist business has been limited. That immediately affected the budget of Turkey.
      1. -27
        31 January 2016 14: 51
        The Turks normally build and give us jobs, among other things.)))) Plus they dressed and shod the gray masses in the territory of the former USSR. Plus products are cheaper than from South AMERICA.
        1. +10
          31 January 2016 15: 07
          Quote: Valdis Plus they dressed and shod gray masses in the territory of the former USSR.

          "Gray masses" is five! What color are you, Valdis? No, light ultraviolet, by any chance? Gospodin nofoevroopeec?
          1. -2
            1 February 2016 22: 47
            You are stupid))))
          2. -1
            1 February 2016 23: 00
            While you are here, your wives are ours))) Only shhh)))
          3. -1
            3 February 2016 23: 58
            Gray mass, this is our people in the years 50-90. Then Upper Volta dressed up with missiles at the expense of the Turks and Asians)))))
        2. -1
          31 January 2016 15: 55
          Quote: Valdis
          Turks are building normally


          "If you want to tell a story, call the Greeks;
          if you want to break - call the Turks! "(Jalal-ed-din Rumi, famous turkish saint - and the great Persian poet and theologian)
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          2. 0
            31 January 2016 21: 22
            "If you want to tell a story, call the Greeks;
            if you want to break, call the Turks! "(Jalal-ed-din Rumi, a famous Turkish saint - and a great Persian-speaking poet and theologian)

            Can "steal"?

            "A man will deceive the gypsies;
            A gypsy will be deceived by a Jew;
            Zhida will be deceived by the Armenian;
            Armenian will deceive the Greek;
            A Greek will be deceived only by hell
            And then, if God allows this. "

            Russian proverb recorded by Russian writer Leskov back in the 19th century.
            1. 0
              31 January 2016 21: 35
              The local automatic corrector works interestingly. Even Russian folk sayings rule. True, somehow partially. In the nominative case (second line) corrected, in the genitive (third line) - left unchanged :))))))))))
        3. 0
          31 January 2016 15: 55
          Quote: Valdis
          Turks are building normally


          "If you want to tell a story, call the Greeks;
          if you want to break - call the Turks! "(Jalal-ed-din Rumi, famous turkish saint - and the great Persian poet and theologian)
          1. +2
            31 January 2016 18: 00
            On the theme of the site that the Greeks do not build a single tank, not a single fighter, unlike the Turks
            1. 0
              31 January 2016 18: 23
              Greece is still not 80 million, but almost 10 times less ...
        4. -5
          31 January 2016 19: 25
          Why are you so wound up? a problem with potency or work? I fly to many countries, which you all can never achieve. Different people, Afghans, Turks, Syrians, Arabs. You do not understand this. Humble yourself. Drink beer or vodka, it will immediately become easier for you when in Crimea on the beach you get injured from a beer jam. With a cry! Our Crimea! I ask the cons))) they are already in your life).
        5. +2
          31 January 2016 21: 04
          Turks are building normally and give us jobs among other things

          That the Turks are building normally and I agree with everything else, with the exception of jobs. Probably all the same, first of all, we give the Turks jobs in Russia.
          1. 0
            4 February 2016 00: 00
            They built us the Olympics. Our all boobs would crush
        6. -1
          1 February 2016 23: 10
          Really, stars in the Internet, in comparison, in a minus in real life so excite you. Dirty, not shaved, groomed, the problem with money, with sex, everything solves here. Women don’t even look at you. For go with backpacks, say nonsense. Your life set a minus. And my wife running quietly to the gynecologist to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy, I understand only)
        7. 0
          9 February 2016 22: 53
          those who put pluses to each other, suck each other)
      2. +1
        31 January 2016 14: 55
        So far, "only" the tourist business has been limited. That immediately affected the budget of Turkey.
        Yes, it has not really affected. After all, over 90% of our tourists came to Turkey precisely at sea from June to mid-October. Well, a little more in May.
      3. +2
        31 January 2016 14: 58
        Quote: Andrey77
        What instantly affected the budget of Turkey.

        do not bring digits?
        1. 0
          31 January 2016 15: 09
          Not now. The annual report will be.
          1. +1
            31 January 2016 17: 33
            I don’t have a report on the budget, but here is what the World Bank writes:
            The World Bank (WB) lowered its forecast for GDP growth in Turkey by 0,4 percent in 2016 and by 0,2 percent in 2017.
            According to WB forecasts published in the annual Global Economic Outlook report, Turkey’s GDP growth in 2016 and 2017 will be 3,5 percent, and in 2018 it will weaken to 3,4 percent, Trend reports.
            In 2015, according to the bank, the country's GDP growth amounted to 4,2 percent.

            so that so far they have more or less everything, at least in comparison with us
      4. 0
        31 January 2016 17: 59
        Not affected.
    2. +2
      31 January 2016 14: 59
      Quote: iouris
      I wonder what will strike back at the airfields from which fighters take off

      I wonder if there will be a retaliation at all.
      1. VP
        0
        31 January 2016 21: 16
        Well, the United States did not start the war when Iran tied their katernikov. Nor did they start when diplomats were captured in the same Iran. And after Mogadishu, the United States did not start a war. However, judging by the flag, you should know all this well, but still for some reason you are trying to push others to fight.
        1. 0
          31 January 2016 21: 47
          It’s one thing to wet the natives, another thing is large-scale fighting: feel the difference ...
  45. hartlend
    +1
    31 January 2016 14: 10
    Again, the article was crookedly reposted by fans of cheap sensations. The article says the level is special or "orange". It also says that the highest level is "red". And in the title
    Quote: armata37
    Turkish Air Force announces highest alert level

    A generation of managers and watchmen.
  46. 0
    31 January 2016 14: 10
    It is necessary to transfer at least one submarine to the Mediterranean Sea.
  47. +3
    31 January 2016 14: 11
    The borders are erased. The Americans found a battlefield. Now sparing no one double standards so double standards.
  48. +7
    31 January 2016 14: 13
    Quote: NIKNN
    I don’t know who is dumber than Erdogan or Poroshenko

    And what is there to guess at them one head of the ward and one diagnosis at all ...
    1. -5
      31 January 2016 18: 04
      What to guess? Our brothers Slavs, clenching their will into a fist, rallied against us, survive, work, there are no mass protests against their power, live as they can, work, respect, like brothers.
      1. +1
        1 February 2016 07: 42
        No, these are not our brothers and Slavs, but the geeks set by the ruling elite of the SGA.
        1. 0
          1 February 2016 16: 16
          Millions of Ukrainians have called geeks. Did they get them on barges from the USA?
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  50. +16
    31 January 2016 14: 15
    It seems that something "very expensive" was smashed by our aerospace forces near the Turkish border, maybe what caravan? The Turks were afraid to shoot, but they smelled qualitatively. The poor barmaley are being bullied, and nothing can be done to help! No ammunition to be planted, no reinforcements, no wounded to be taken for treatment ... It was not for nothing that our 35s were planted, oh, not in vain. And the AWACS planes are there like. The second time we will not step on the same rake. The aggressor will be "dropped" in the best traditions of the Russian school. May they not risk it. The wrong janissary went, oh, the wrong one. The greedy and the thieving cannot be brave.
    1. +2
      31 January 2016 14: 19
      Looks like. Caravan is unlikely - there are thousands of them. Rather, a personal relative / friend of Erdogan was kneaded by the VKS.
    2. -5
      31 January 2016 18: 11
      There are no problems with ammunition, reinforcements from all over the world across the Turkish and Iraqi borders, wounded in the best hospitals in Tourland. "Greedy and thieving" do not fight there, religious hard workers are fighting, humiliated and not recognized by the white race, whom we called and call "churkobes" or whatever else ...
      1. +3
        31 January 2016 18: 21
        and you have blacks lynched
        1. 0
          1 February 2016 00: 13
          they now have blacks lynching white and not only ... laughing
        2. 0
          1 February 2016 07: 48
          Negro Negro strife.
      2. 0
        1 February 2016 07: 46
        Geeks are fighting there and not hard workers who have nothing to do with Islam.
  51. +4
    31 January 2016 14: 16
    not one sensible comment.

    .Who needed this? The Turks? or Russia? Neither one nor the other doesn’t need unnecessary problems. There are so many problems. And here again there is talk about the intruder plane. Only God knows how all this will end. But only one thing is clear: All of this is scary!!
    1. +7
      31 January 2016 15: 13
      Quote: lonely
      ...Who needed this?


      You know very well who is the customer, who is the performer, even who is the sponsor...What comments would you like to hear here? The latest directive of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces? Whoever thinks the same way answers. And our armed forces have their own highest level of combat readiness for different orange levels!!!
      soldier
      Here are the army general's recommendations:
      1. +1
        31 January 2016 15: 25
        Quote: yuriy55
        Here are the army general's recommendations:

        If only everything were so simple))) I think now there was only one state in the world what
        1. +2
          31 January 2016 16: 55
          Quote: lonely
          I think there was only one state in the world now

          I think not one.
  52. +2
    31 January 2016 14: 18
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ugnwFKGUQ
  53. +3
    31 January 2016 14: 19
    The Ersatz Sultan has gone completely overboard...
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  55. +10
    31 January 2016 14: 22
    The passions over the destroyed SU-24 have gradually subsided and now the question arose: “how will the Russians react to a possible attack attempt?” The degree of readiness to shoot down a NATO aircraft under controversial conditions has not been determined, nor the level of determination. This is where provocations arise.
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  57. +7
    31 January 2016 14: 24
    Here I read from one smart person on LiveJournal that it would be a good idea for our military to check the maps with NATO - discrepancies in drawing the border are quite possible. Yes, and GLONASS with GPS may not produce identical data; maybe even when processing the signal and referencing the terrain, they use different electronic models of the Earth.
    1. +2
      31 January 2016 14: 29
      Everything is easy to count. Programmers are not that stupid.
      1. +4
        31 January 2016 15: 43
        If it's about the cards, what does the programmers have to do with it? And if it’s about satellites, no one will recalculate anything there, even when using one electronic model, different geosystems can produce different values.
        1. +2
          31 January 2016 16: 07
          In the cards. Type WGS 84 in the search engine. Everything is easily converted from one to another. Problem with linking cards. And what about programmers? So the authorities wanted a different system - turn around as you want.
  58. 0
    31 January 2016 14: 27
    The Russian Foreign Ministry may declare recognition of the Kurds (an ancient headache of Turkey) as an independent state - Kurdistan. That would be a number!
    1. +1
      31 January 2016 15: 02
      within what boundaries, where is the government, where is the capital? or just Kurds? is every Kurd an independent state?
    2. +3
      31 January 2016 15: 09
      Quote: Andrey77
      The Russian Foreign Ministry may declare recognition of the Kurds (an ancient headache of Turkey) as an independent state - Kurdistan. That would be a number!

      First, you need to declare such a state, hold elections, mark the border. Do you think it is so easy? 30-40% of the Turkish army consists of Kurds. There are many of them among the generals. Do you think all Kurds are for Kurdistan? Not everything is as glamorous as you think.
      1. 0
        31 January 2016 15: 15
        The Turkish government will not go to the elections - the state will split. Following the example of Chechnya - take power ourselves? They will crush you by force.
  59. 0
    31 January 2016 14: 29
    I hope the S-400 lives up to its characteristics. hi
  60. +2
    31 January 2016 14: 30
    Erdogan of Hollywood, decided to attract attention to himself again as a cheap actor (they attract attention to themselves with cheap scandals), and this one decided to quickly kill us...
  61. +9
    31 January 2016 14: 34
    Do as Zhirinovsky suggests laughing am
  62. +6
    31 January 2016 14: 34
    ....the news about the increased vigilance of Turkish aviation was semi-officially conveyed to the whole world

    Well, yes, the city and the world, they scared the hedgehog)))
    What pleased me in the news: “Free and
    forever - under these conditions, Syria provided the Khmeimim airbase in Latakia to the Russian Aerospace Forces."
    1. +7
      31 January 2016 14: 44
      We are slowly returning everything that was given away under Yeltsin.
  63. +8
    31 January 2016 14: 36
    The jackal's tail has been pinched, the jackal is thrashing about... but... confirmation by the mattress of the fact of the "violation" is an unpleasant symptom, there is an escalation. God forbid, someone else from the Russians will be shot down (you can minus, but the possibility cannot be completely excluded). P. i.n.d.o.s.s are trying to squeeze the maximum out of Erdogan’s stupid annealing. It could blaze at any minute. IMHO...
  64. +6
    31 January 2016 14: 37
    They are preparing to attack. They will hit you and say “the Russians started it themselves.” Podlyugi!
  65. +2
    31 January 2016 14: 37
    Р am Russia is no longer the same as it was in the 19th century, now we will deal with the Turks in no time.
    1. +1
      31 January 2016 17: 02
      Yes, we have dealt with them throughout the centuries. am
  66. 0
    31 January 2016 14: 39
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Why negotiate - the Greeks already have the C300, negotiations on their maintenance and replacement of aging missiles were still weighty. Want - click on the button.

    Greeks and Turks (and Bulgarians too) are in NATO. And in case of misunderstandings between NATO members, the offended NATO member files a complaint against the other (the offender) in Brussels and further debriefings take place in the relevant NATO offices.
    1. +6
      31 January 2016 14: 47
      Formally yes. In fact, Brussels is turning a blind eye - figure it out for yourself.
  67. +2
    31 January 2016 14: 43
    “We decided to play a war game... Let them first count how many times they were beaten!”

    Yes, the Busurmans remember how many times they beat us. And after each beating, a piece of territory was given away. Now they are overgrown with fat, the allies, motherfucking yati, are pushing by the arm. We are used to cheap oil. Locomotive, however. Apart from ideas about the Great Sultanate, I don’t want to lose money or personal money for oil.
    1. +1
      31 January 2016 14: 50
      Yes. But this applies to almost all countries in the Middle East that have oil under their feet.
      1. +1
        31 January 2016 21: 02
        A small, insignificant clarification. Erdogan buys, uses and resells ISIS stolen oil.
  68. +2
    31 January 2016 14: 46
    Or maybe they confused the color orange with the color of “childish surprise”? So that pilots would switch to this color of pants, if something happens?
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 14: 52
      Turkish Air Force pilots are not robots. They understand everything themselves, but an order is an order.
  69. +25
    31 January 2016 14: 51
    Dear VO readers, I will convey to you the principles of flight preparation for our aviation. Before takeoff, the pilot is given the task of plotting the aircraft's route. This route is designated by waypoints (intermediate points of the route), over which the aircraft makes a turn and takes a new course. And so on throughout the entire flight. The waypoint is set in relative navigation mode with an accuracy of 20 meters. The pilot and navigator endure all this, and everything is reflected on the recorders. The state border of any state is also displayed by the corresponding waypoints, beyond which the aircraft does not enter. All pilots and navigators learn this using the systems we have created. This is how they worked in Egypt and Afghanistan. All you have to do is show these recordings to foreign loudmouths and everything should calm down.
    Our commanders and pilots are smart specialists and will not allow violations of established routes. Personally, I myself installed such routes (RPM) on a MiG25RB aircraft in Egypt in 1972. The pilot was sitting in the cockpit, I was standing on the step, and the cryptographer handed me a sheet with the planning notes assigned from Moscow. I introduced them into the equipment created by my research institute. The pilot and I knew about them. Therefore, we did not lose a single MiG-25RB. The system was created with my participation. I have the honor.
    1. +3
      31 January 2016 15: 00
      Technically, it is impossible even for a civilian to break the “corridor.” A military man can, but as you said - PPM. And all this is written (even more so in BS).
      1. +2
        31 January 2016 17: 22
        Quote: Andrey77
        Technically, it is impossible even for a civilian to break the “corridor.”

        You can break it, but you will be punished. winked
    2. 0
      31 January 2016 20: 20
      Now is not a reason to talk about the truth and facts. For NATO, the most important thing now is to shout in all the media that the Russians are to blame for everything and repeat this everywhere and constantly hammer into everyone’s brain that Russia is the enemy.
  70. +1
    31 January 2016 14: 54
    Orange moms
    Orange guys
    Orange song
    Orange sing.
    And the free yellow press is on a rampage. Oranzhevo
  71. +3
    31 January 2016 14: 56
    In this situation, the most important thing is an adequate response. Such an answer, a final answer, in which there will be no one to bring the complaint to Brussels, and no one to consider it in Brussels...
    As the President said there:
  72. +7
    31 January 2016 15: 01
    I think a couple of nuclear missiles of strategists are already aimed at Turkish targets. There will be no more time to think and reflect. It will be necessary to burn the territory of the Ottoman Empire to ashes. But NATO won’t even blather, and the mattress pads won’t climb, they will only grin from afar...
  73. +4
    31 January 2016 15: 06
    Behind all the warlike statements of the Turks, the ears of the “exceptional” stick out. But we know these people who like to rake in the heat with someone else’s hands. Nothing surprising.
  74. +1
    31 January 2016 15: 07
    A priori: ONE plane physically could not violate “Turkish airspace” for 25 seconds! After well-known events, our bombers do not fly unaccompanied. Whose provocateur was there? The Turks need to figure it out...Otherwise their “orange levels” will drive them into hysterics...Well, not to the point of New Ottomania for sure!
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 15: 21
      There is one subtlety - there is no trace strip and no border guards in the air. Whether or not the border was violated is recorded by the radar operator. What if the operator was drunk? I agree with you - we need to figure it out.
      1. -1
        31 January 2016 20: 23
        No one will understand - the main task for NATO is to present Russia as guilty by any means necessary
  75. +10
    31 January 2016 15: 13
    Gaddafi's daughter will lead the resistance in Libya against NATO and terrorists, our Slavic blood!
    Speaking about the al-Qaeda terrorists who overthrew Gaddafi in 2011, Aisha Gaddafi prophetically noted that they would be destroyed by “their own breath of madness and division”: “Our blows are nothing compared to those that they inflicted on themselves.” She noted that she is “ready for this mortal battle” in which terrorists will face “a united people.” However, Aisha Gaddafi makes it clear that the war “will not end with our victory.” In conclusion, she promised to write new appeals. According to rumors, a printed version of this appeal is secretly distributed in both capitals of Libya - Tripoli and Tobruk, and her appearance on local television is expected in the near future.
    http://mpsh.ru/7256-doch-kaddafi-vozglavit-v-livii-so..
    1. +1
      31 January 2016 15: 33
      Quote: MIKHAN
      our Slavic blood!

      Just an unconfirmed version. According to one version, Aisha’s mother was born in El Bayda. Her maiden name is El Brasai. According to another version, she has Hungarian, Croatian-Bosnian roots.
  76. -9
    31 January 2016 15: 15
    Quote: AlexTires
    The passions over the destroyed SU-24 have gradually subsided and now the question arose: “how will the Russians react to a possible attack attempt?

    Blah blah blah on TV and that’s all, this is how the Russians react to downed military aircraft. The Turks have already shown the whole world that it is possible to shoot down a Russian military aircraft without military consequences.
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 15: 31
      The consequences for Turkey are more dire - economic. And this despite the fact that Russia has not banned the departure of tourists. What if he bans it?
      1. 0
        31 January 2016 19: 16
        the ban has been introduced, the fact that some d.e.b.i.l.s get through airfields in other countries to Turkey is nobody’s business... it will be their own fault.
    2. -1
      31 January 2016 20: 27
      And who told you that there will be no military consequences? Do you think the Turkish Air Force doesn’t just fly up to the border with Syria?
  77. 0
    31 January 2016 15: 18
    Quote: NIKNN
    I don’t know who is dumber than Erdogan or Poroshenko request

    Well, no matter what, our c400 is in constant combat readiness ...

    so he takes them at gunpoint on takeoff - now such a locomotive will not give a ride, and the Su-34 is not a rook)))
  78. +5
    31 January 2016 15: 20
    Judging by the news, the scales in favor of Syria are beginning to tip (the Turkish border is being blocked.....) Erdogan has only one chance to change the situation - intervention. Everyone and everything is on edge. Let's remember the other day AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System) (designed to work in combat conditions, capable of detecting (classifying) targets at a range of up to 650 km. A feature of AWACS is the detection and control of weapons in automatic mode). approached the Turks.
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 15: 34
      Intervention = actual war with Russia. Erdogan has neither the strength nor the means to do this.
  79. +2
    31 January 2016 15: 24
    pin---dostan gave the command to escalate the conflict
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 15: 35
      He could give. Well, the Turks are not stupid people.
  80. +12
    31 January 2016 15: 33
    In my opinion, everything will depend on who shoots at whom first and, naturally, on the professionalism and endurance of the Air Force pilots.
    Yes, it was not for nothing that the Americans sent AWACS to Turkey, and this means that the Turks will again try to act from an ambush, but without invading Syria from their territory. As they say, they will take into account the mistakes of the past.
    The trouble is that if (God forbid) the Turks freeze something up again and they essentially have nothing to lose, then only the Russian Aerospace Forces will be able to immediately provide evidence. But we all know that we all listen to the Americans and they will say that all this not true. But if the Russian Aerospace Forces shoots down, then everything will definitely be the other way around, even if the Russian Federation has iron-clad evidence.
    I have always been sure that the Americans always play meanly and dirty. The fact that they agree somewhere is all dust in the eyes. The Americans themselves are quietly using a second or third plan.
    America is the hotbed of terrorism on the planet.
    1. +2
      31 January 2016 15: 38
      The US will not cover Turkey. It is not profitable for the United States to have such an “ally” who cheats for money. Turkey's economic rating is below par, while Russia's is AAA+
      1. 0
        31 January 2016 17: 37
        Turkey's economic rating is below par, and GDP in 2015 grew by $40 billion, Russia has a BBB rating - all these ratings are complete bullshit.
  81. -3
    31 January 2016 15: 34
    The question is certainly interesting. They write “to shoot down”.... Who???? Turkov. Maybe it’s necessary, but they won’t interfere openly. But our plane over the territory of Syria is like two fingers on the asphalt. Well, maybe they won’t shoot it down due to resistance on our part, but as a result there will be another escalation of tension and...... I don’t want to find myself in a war during such a period. The economy, except for the military-industrial complex, is dying. The ministers and economists throw up their hands, wave frantically from not knowing what to do, apparently they want to take off, and here it’s “your grandma and St. George’s day.” Apparently the Americans really want to bring down Putin through the crisis in Europe and Russia. We don’t wash it, we just roll it. I don’t think even a month will pass before this happens.
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 15: 44
      Our private sector is very much in charge. Look at Gazprom's quotes, although it is only a half private company.
  82. +5
    31 January 2016 15: 36
    all repeats . Europe is forming a flock, and now the Turks are joining in. The Japanese bare their teeth a little at a time. They are going on a new trip. I hope we'll be ready.
  83. +3
    31 January 2016 15: 42
    Oh, how I want to hit them all! Both Turks and non-Turks!
    1. -2
      31 January 2016 15: 46
      Why do you personally need it?
  84. +2
    31 January 2016 15: 53
    yes simple. they need it and they will do it. (and to be honest, I would give them a whack in the ears!)
    1. +2
      31 January 2016 16: 22
      To live, sleep peacefully and look confidently into tomorrow. Wait for grandchildren, not be afraid for their future, that no one will force them to jump on the Maidan.
  85. PBF
    +2
    31 January 2016 15: 56
    They are drawn to orange. Country 404, in 2004-2005 it started with orange. And in 2013-2014, I started burning tires and jumping, and then it was a complete success. And the further it goes, the worse it gets. Turkey doesn't seem to have much time left. sad
  86. +1
    31 January 2016 15: 56
    Quote: kapitan92
    ....... "but again, the issue of territory (you can, you can't fly abroad after shelling from Turkey) ....
    If there is shelling of our group from Turkey, the issue of territory will disappear by itself. This will be an act of aggression by the Turkish Armed Forces against the Russian Federation.
    The Turks will not go for it, this is WAR !!!

    Who will ask the Turks? Can you also say that the Turks make their own decisions? In political terms, Turkey is the same as Ukraine, only on the Bosphorus. They will do as the owners order. The West will have to, and they will start a war.
  87. -2
    31 January 2016 16: 01
    in short, they will shoot you down again because:
    1. for the Su-24 they didn’t get any money
    2. we again don’t care and we are again without cover
    1. +1
      31 January 2016 16: 21
      Not really. Syria gave us carte blanche.
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  89. -2
    31 January 2016 16: 08
    As far as I know, the orange level is the use of nuclear forces without restrictions.
    1. 0
      31 January 2016 16: 22
      I don't know about Turkey. There is no such color in US codes.
  90. +4
    31 January 2016 16: 10
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Quote: sabakina
    And I also hope that someone will understand in time that it’s not worth contacting us ...

    I hope so too ... but alas, I think you will have to BEAT! Before the Second World War, we also tried to avoid war .. (to intimidate and agree ..))) These devils of the world do not need .. They need to zero their debts, due to the war by someone else's hands! .. We will win as usual, but they will skim the cream again ! If you fight, then with the "ASPEN'S NEST OF THE WORLD", maybe then there will be a sense ... And where it is, no one knows! Washington, London ..? NO! Looking for ...

    There is such a small always neutral country, Switzerland. With an exorbitant number of banks and incomprehensible organizations. For three hundred years she has been pretending to be such a small, defenseless girl. Note that even Hitler, having conquered all of Europe, did not begin to seize it, despite all the gold and foreign exchange resources of Swiss banks. It’s just that the masters of not only Hitler, but also all other wars, including world wars, are sitting there. It has long been known where the world’s nest is located, it’s just not customary to talk about it. These puppeteers carry out their policies with the hands of London, Washington, and others, which are just branches. So-so, an open secret.
    1. +1
      31 January 2016 16: 17
      Interesting idea. I didn't look at the problem from this angle. I will think.
    2. +2
      31 January 2016 16: 24
      So that's the point. Launder dirty money. Everyone uses Switzerland and is happy.
  91. +1
    31 January 2016 16: 18
    Quote: Valdis
    The Turks normally build and give us jobs, among other things.)))) Plus they dressed and shod the gray masses in the territory of the former USSR. Plus products are cheaper than from South AMERICA.

    Quick question Valdis, how old are you? Something tells me that you didn’t live in the 90s.
    1. +1
      31 January 2016 16: 26
      Maybe he meant "shuttles"?
  92. 0
    31 January 2016 16: 23
    Quote: Misha Honest
    By the way, the homeland of the Turks is Turkmenistan. However, like Azerbaijanis. Indeed, by blood, you are one people. Aren't you ashamed of what your brothers have been doing for centuries? Nothing personal - just curious.

    In fact, the Turks, according to (in the books) of medieval Arab figures, the Arabs did not consider the Turks to be their own. They classified the Turks as Russian peoples and, according to descriptions, the Turks were fair-haired or red-haired and blue-eyed. There were no Azers as a nationality at all. it is also an artificial word formation. Like poops. And the Motherland? This is certainly an interesting question...
  93. +2
    31 January 2016 16: 24
    Quote: Belarus
    I have always been sure that the Americans always play meanly and dirty. The fact that they agree somewhere is all dust in the eyes. The Americans themselves are quietly using a second or third plan.America is the hotbed of terrorism on the planet.


    Truly. Any sane person will subscribe to your words, colleague.
  94. 0
    31 January 2016 16: 28
    you stinking fart, you will continue to bark or start biting, if only you would shut your mouth and not disgrace yourself.
  95. +2
    31 January 2016 16: 28
    Quote: Andrey77
    Not formally shot down. Turkey did not take responsibility.

    How did you not take responsibility? And where do the statements not at the highest diplomatic level about the alleged violation of the border come from? What about notes of protest? It was the Turkish military that did not take responsibility, the plane most likely was not Turkish (you know whose), and Turkey did a great job of shouldering everything. Open the archives and read Erdogan's official statements.
    1. -1
      31 January 2016 16: 36
      Can you read? The Turks did not take responsibility. I opened it and didn’t see anything official. In words - yes. A link about compensation for damage to the studio!
    2. 0
      31 January 2016 21: 16
      It is more likely that the Turks did not take responsibility for what they shot down over foreign territory. They insist that our plane was shot down over Turkish territory, not Syria.
  96. -8
    31 January 2016 16: 31
    Wow, how warlike everyone is, but in words. If the Su34 is shot down, there is no doubt that there will be no military response. Why? The Russian Federation is not the USSR.
    1. +2
      31 January 2016 16: 37
      Are you taking it lightly?
      1. -3
        31 January 2016 16: 57
        The only one who could resist NATO, and indeed the whole world, was only the USSR.
        1. 0
          2 February 2016 01: 48
          Quote: Onizuka's teacher
          The only one who could resist NATO, and indeed the whole world, was only the USSR.

          I’ll tell you a terrible secret: the Syrians shot down a Turkish military plane in 2012. Can you imagine, and there was no military response from NATO, is Syria really the USSR? Ahahahaha....
  97. +3
    31 January 2016 16: 35
    The Ottomans are chickening out. They won't pull death's whiskers. Their pilots may be brave, but they are not suicidal. And taking into account the fact that the C 400 can “reach” on the ground, and ONLY Turkish fighters can attack our planes... No, they won’t risk it. Politicians will chicken out.
  98. 0
    31 January 2016 16: 38
    Quote: Weyland
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Chur us Bosphorus!


    And the Dardanelles - otherwise it makes no sense!
    Who owns the Crimea and the Straits - that dominates The Mediterranean sea!

    Maybe you wanted to say dominates the Black Sea. Excuse me, which straits? If also the Gibraltar and Suez Canals, then yes. And the Bosphorus and Dardanelles are just an exit from the Black Sea.
  99. +6
    31 January 2016 16: 38
    As an edification to those who are itching!
  100. +3
    31 January 2016 16: 47
    Apparently, the Syrian troops, under the leadership of our advisers, pinned down rats or gray wolves at the Turkish border, if Erdogan howled so much and turned orange, in this situation, act decisively as Zhukov said in 45 only complete surrender, and no Geneva meetings or negotiations with “partners from the democratic opposition.”