The equipment of the newest type of army of Russia will receive within three years

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The equipment of the newest type of army of Russia will receive within three yearsAccording to the statement of Konstantin Biryulin, Deputy Federal Service of the Russian Federation for military-technical cooperation, in order to manufacture ammunition, Russia sent a technological line to Cuba in the form of equipment. The representative office does not specify the cost of contracts.

At the same time, the Russian army is addressing the issue of the volume of state defense orders for 2012-2014.

Yury Borisov, first deputy chairman of the Military-Industrial Commission under the government, noted: “This is the most acute and sensitive issue at the moment. We have already reviewed the draft state defense order and basically accepted it. Positions on ammunition and conventional weapons require refinement. According to the tasks of the state armament program, planned before 2020, at this stage, the total amount of the order in this area does not correspond to the parameters. ”

Sergei Ivanov, the vice-premier, earlier reported that in 2012, the 1,109 trillion rubles would be sent to equip weapons, special equipment and military vehicles of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, for three years the amount of investment will vary around the 4 trillion rubles.

In particular, it can be assumed that a certain amount will be spent on the purchase of military perspective equipment "soldier of the future." At the moment, in any case, negotiations are underway between Russia and France on the acquisition of limited quantities of uniforms. In all likelihood, the Russian soldiers will change into modernized equipment for 3 years.

At the same time, the Ministry of Defense of Russia independently develops this area, and, as Yuri Borisov emphasizes, “Russian gunsmiths are able to create by themselves future combat equipment that will be competitive in this segment of armaments among existing analogues of other countries of the world”.

According to RIA "News", the deputy chairman of the military industrial complex specified that this equipment is a comprehensive solution consisting of 10 different subsystems, including: small weapon, body armor, communications equipment, ammunition, data exchange devices and many other high-tech solutions.
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  1. Owl
    +9
    4 December 2011 18: 42
    Who will receive this outfit? What troops? Again "at war" there will be soldiers and officers in old uniforms and with old equipment, without normal radio stations and worn-out military equipment.
  2. +5
    4 December 2011 18: 46
    But maybe the technical equipment will put the army in good, but with the equipment, as always, it looks beautiful, but the quality is bad, a friend from my army says the number is 1-2 march of the throw and it breaks. So I'm worried about the quality of the uniform.
    1. KASKAD
      -8
      4 December 2011 19: 01
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      But maybe the technical equipment will put the army in good, but with the equipment, as always, it looks beautiful, but the quality is bad, a friend from my army says the number is 1-2 march of the throw and it breaks. So I'm worried about the quality of the uniform.


      She’s got into a fight like a bum flaw, and even if our people do something I doubt, it will turn out to be a three-ton inconvenient g @ obviously disgusting quality for fabulous money, which can be said if the Russian GPS looks like this
      1. Anatoly
        +2
        4 December 2011 19: 34
        and standard hammer - press buttons wink
      2. 0
        5 December 2011 06: 32
        KASKAD - this box would be yes to the manufacturer - the result would be admired by others .... but can it be a secret melee weapon? The colaxial fraud touched - nostalgia for ArСnet squeezed a tear already, and then, didn’t the older ports still hang up under the guise of the universality of this device? Misery and no art.
      3. Siberian
        +2
        5 December 2011 16: 19
        This gizmo has been around for 10 years. Do not think that this is the latest nanotechnology.
        1. -3
          5 December 2011 18: 57
          Yes, I would not exclude that the last
  3. ESCANDER
    +2
    4 December 2011 18: 54
    --- "Negotiations are ongoing between Russia and France on the acquisition of limited quantities of uniforms."

    To the Mistrals in addition, probably.
    We have a lot of our own developments.
    1. +2
      4 December 2011 19: 03
      If you have your own development, then in the first you won’t ruin the military-industrial complex, and in the second you won’t wash the dough as much.
      1. KASKAD
        +2
        4 December 2011 19: 09
        They’ve been making barmitsa since 2000, and in 2009 they said that they had spent 10 years and a lot of money and the equipment kit weighed 40 kg and it wasn’t possible to use it and it’s morally outdated and inferior to American GEN1 sets of the 1989 model in terms of material characteristics.
        1. ESCANDER
          +2
          4 December 2011 19: 45
          KASKAD
          At that time, not only “Barmitsa” was made in a similar way.
          It is just necessary to formulate adequately that what is generally required is + the appropriate finances with appropriate control. And there will be happiness.
          The questions are systemic ...
          1. KASKAD
            -1
            4 December 2011 19: 53
            It’s just that every enterprise makes a boom, for example, a soldier raises 4 kg, raises a helmet made 4 kg, and so on, each office, and as a result, it’s not very easy and convenient
      2. +1
        5 December 2011 18: 54
        Surg,
        The military-industrial complex has already collapsed - there is no one to fulfill the state. defense. order!
  4. Railways
    +2
    4 December 2011 19: 05
    We certainly don't need French "small arms and ammunition".
  5. patriot64
    +1
    4 December 2011 19: 15
    My son tells me that wearing uniforms from Yudashkin is uncomfortable at the training ground. He should serve him before spring. We just don’t have a connection between the army and fashion designers. Oh, what would be useful for the soldiers’ comments on this subject! Maybe there would be less jambs!
    1. KASKAD
      +8
      4 December 2011 19: 23
      worldwide, uniforms are made by companies specializing in tactical clothing and ammunition rather than fagot fashion designers
      1. +8
        4 December 2011 20: 17
        Quote: KASKAD
        worldwide, uniforms are made by companies specializing in tactical clothing and ammunition rather than fagot fashion designers


        More precisely and you will not tell.
        In ancient times, being in Livadia, Tsar Nicholas II decided to personally test how convenient the uniform of the soldier and equipment. He put on his uniform, a satchel with styling, took a rifle on his shoulder, and in 8 hours rested on foot — 40 miles. Then expressed wishes


        And our hunters and fishermen got the hang of buying a NATO uniform, 1 rubles, in a second hand. waterproof Bundes jacket, almost knee-deep with a sweater lining, woolen and other ammunition. You understand the reviews
        1. +2
          4 December 2011 23: 13
          He thumped before this very much, before the delegation, if I am not mistaken, the merchants were disgraced. It was Stolypin who sent him on a march to improve his reputation (and Stolypin did not have long to live after that).
          1. +2
            5 December 2011 00: 02
            Well, of course, no matter what Nicholas II did, it was necessary either "by lack of will", or "bloody", or "thumped". The grandmother blurted out at the bazaar, and we repeat. In general, 40 miles is more abruptly than a drunken Borya and than even Putin on a fighter plane.
            Nicholas II was slandered even more abruptly than Stalin, and it was simply taken from the air by nonsense, based on nothing.
            1. 0
              5 December 2011 02: 18
              Of course, they overtook him abruptly, there were a lot of slander. The man may have been a good one, but the ruler is bad. He made a lot of mistakes, through that he also killed the country, and destroyed his family.
    2. Pavel V
      +1
      4 December 2011 19: 30
      Maybe someone knows Yudashkin served in the army or not. If served, then you should know that the form does g ... This is not a glamorous party, not intended to be shown to the enemy. And if he didn’t serve, then he can send another for a month to some part. Let it be like a system, get used to it. Will think.
      1. Tatars
        +3
        4 December 2011 20: 11
        The clothes from Yudashkin have long been redone leaving only the sleeves from the former
      2. +3
        4 December 2011 20: 59
        Quote: Pavel V
        Maybe someone knows Yudashkin served in the army or not


        He served as Pavel, whether he knew the cartographer or he was engaged in suturing the form, I read somewhere, too lazy to rummage
      3. +1
        5 December 2011 06: 36
        Pavel, however, served Zverev, but according to Yudashkin, it seems not, because the mug is round like that of Perdyuk.
    3. +1
      5 December 2011 02: 15
      This Yudashkin - in his own uniform would be put on a march-throw ... Then I would have understood what was needed.
  6. 0
    4 December 2011 19: 22
    They will take note of the comments, only make their own way.
  7. bober
    +2
    4 December 2011 19: 24
    yes, in fact, the shape of the old model is also terribly uncomfortable. somehow I got an American food which wasn’t used by Americans and adopted in the 70s. the sky and the earth feel like there is no clothes. it does not constrain and does not interfere anywhere.
    1. KASKAD
      +2
      4 December 2011 19: 28
      And you see how many companies I work on this and institutes and developers of materials for comparison, see the American kit:

      The developer of the kit is "ADS-Tactical" http://www.adsinc.com/gen-iii.

      ECWCS GEN III "- This is a garment set consisting of seven (7) layers.
      "ECWCS GEN III" is used from -40`F to + 40`F which corresponds to -40`C to + 12`C
      1, 2 - Sand Desert 4, 5, 6 layers - ACU pattern. The third layer is Folliage green, the seventh layer is Urban Gray.
      The material of the outer layers of the kit has a special processing according to the "N IR" technology, this processing reduces the possibility of the fabric "glowing" in the Night Vision Device and in infrared optics - in other words, it makes it possible to approach the enemy with the NVG at the minimum possible distance at night.
      Now a few words about the layers that make up the ECWCS GEN III outfit:
      - The first layer of the kit - underpants and a long-sleeved shirt - in fact, this is a body layer of underwear, it is thermal underwear, this layer removes excess moisture (sweat) from the body. The color is beige and sand.
      - The second layer of the kit - also consists of underpants and a shirt with a long sleeve. This layer passes moisture through itself, and also warms the body. The second layer adjacent to the body is no longer as tight as the first layer (thermal underwear), the color is also beige and sand.
      - The third layer of the kit is a warm fleece jacket, super-warm and very pleasant to the touch, you put it on - and so comfortable in it, I don’t want to take it off.
      Its color is a dark gray-green color, "folliage green".
      - The fourth layer of the kit is a very light and durable jacket-windbreaker, designed to protect against cold winds. ACUPAT color.
      - The fifth layer of the kit is trousers and a jacket. This can be said to be the main, most commonly used layer. Designed for wet, damp weather and for increased physical activity of a person. ACUPAT color.
      - The sixth layer of the kit - trousers and a jacket with a Gore-tex membrane. This sixth layer with a Goretex membrane serves to pass moisture out and not to let it in. Withstands rainfall. ACUPAT color.
      - The seventh layer of the kit - also consists of a jacket and trousers - is designed for sedentary, static activities
      (for sitting in an ambush, for example) in severe frosts.
      - Insulation: PrimaLoftR Sport - This material was originally developed for the US Army as an artificial substitute for goose feathers that does not absorb water and is highly water-repellent, while its thermal insulation ability is almost not reduced in a humid environment. The ultrafine fibers of this material are more similar to the structure of goose down fibers than any other synthetic fiber. The similarity to goose down gives this fiber the thermal properties of the down. The thermal resistance factor for down is 2,18 and for Primaloft is 2,15. Other known synthetic materials do not even come close to such indicators.
      Wear-resistant, normal washing is possible (unlike down jackets), dries quickly. Unlike the pen, PrimaLoftR is also great for allergy sufferers.

      Thanks to the large-diameter hollow fiber, the so-called "LOFT" is maintained even after prolonged use, compression, washing and drying. more details here
      [list] 1. Breathable and quick-drying: thermal insulation for any extreme conditions.
      2. Waterproof: PrimaLoft-Sport is less water-absorbing than competing heaters and warmer even when wet.
      3. Lightweight and compressible: The incredibly thin fiber diameter gives PrimaLoft-Sport a pleasant and soft feel. It does not caking like a down jacket, and can be successfully transported and stored for a long time in a compress bag without compromising properties. It shrinks to the minimum volume and independently fluffs after compression (the jacket was compressed to the size of 2x 1 liter jars!)
      4. Warm: PrimaLoft-Sport has the patented properties of fibers that do not absorb water, the heat will be even when wet.


      - outer layer: EPIC fabric. It has good breathing properties, well, and less moisture resistance of the membrane. But it is not needed in the winter in the snow. And on wet snow you can put the 6th layer.
      1. Good Strength: Encapsulating material does not wear off, increases strength and improves elasticity
      2. Windproof: polymer encapsulating fiber does not pass wind
      3. Vapor permeability: natural micro-holes between the fibers do not interfere with the evaporation of moisture
      4. Moisture-repellent qualities: the material does not absorb moisture

      The developer of the kit, the company "ADS-Tactical" claims that the seventh layer allows a fairly comfortable existence at temperatures down to minus 40 `Celsius. URBAN GRAY color.
      Each of the 7 layers either supplements or replaces another layer, depending on what weather - rain, rain, wind, snow, frost, etc. - This ECWCS GEN III kit is used.
      In the US Army at the moment - this is the best uniform for extreme cold and just for dank, windy, rainy, damp and nasty weather.
      Since April 2010, development of the 4th generation ECWCS began.
    2. +4
      4 December 2011 19: 31
      Quote: bober
      adopted in 70 years

      In 80, I cooked a jacket for the middle (it seems to have been translated) commanding officers of the US Army (the Vietnamese brought me for 180 rubles) in bleach, I wanted to make a "boiled pot", the cotton lining was reddened, and the jacket was okay, what comments
  8. +4
    4 December 2011 19: 38
    At the same time, the Russian Ministry of Defense is independently developing this area - let's hope that this time the Defense Ministry will not use Yudashkin’s services, otherwise he’s a master at which wink
  9. nordwokintos
    +6
    4 December 2011 19: 56
    I suppose they’ll build nanobunds from Zaitsev to demoralize a potential enemy ..
  10. +5
    4 December 2011 20: 11
    No, well, they found a pancake for specialists-stools with Yudashkin — one sold counterfeit furniture to the second women in skirts, but we won’t have to fight in this go @ if that.
  11. MURANO
    +5
    4 December 2011 21: 10
    Quote: KASKAD
    if it looks like Russian GPS

    This is a setup, not an FPS. Not true.
    Military version
    1. KASKAD
      0
      4 December 2011 21: 33
      this is not a setup, but the current model of providing navigation at a tactical level since 2004 or 2005 has been on the equipment of the RF Armed Forces
    2. +1
      5 December 2011 00: 04
      Yes, I had no doubt. What our neo-dissidents will not come up with, they would just spit in Russia. Pugs unfinished.
  12. "Leader"
    0
    4 December 2011 21: 12
    I remembered the film ... There is also Jean Claude Van Dam in the title role. Who remembers?
  13. MURANO
    +5
    4 December 2011 21: 16
    And another option
    The GLISSADA-SB1 individual inertial-satellite navigation equipment is intended for determining, complex processing and issuing navigation and satellite information to soldiers and commanders of the Russian Armed Forces in conditions of electronic suppression and closed terrain (tunnels, buildings, forest and mountain ranges).

    It is one of the main elements of a single information and sighting instrument complex (IPPK), designed to solve a complex of tasks (conducting reconnaissance, recognizing the type of objects and determining their state belonging, aiming when firing from small arms and melee weapons, operational communication between the commander and subordinates, determination of the danger of defeat of military personnel with weapons of mass destruction and other types of promising weapons).
    1. 0
      5 December 2011 06: 47
      MURANO - this product does not look bad and it pleases ... one thing only - the picture on the display corresponds to the RGB gaming design of the early 90s (I can’t say whether this is good or bad - just an outside observation). It would be interesting to look at the internal chipset ...
      And your top ZhPS is an ordinary multiline pager.
      My respect.
  14. +1
    4 December 2011 23: 45
    Yudashkin dress up special mannequins. About quality ... Himself would be dressed in his own clothes and a march-throw of 20 stones. Then into the dirt head over heels and at night for freeze.
    Pinned Glonass - GPS.
  15. +1
    5 December 2011 00: 06
    And to be honest, fig how this "Glonass" looks. We are to fight with him, and not to win design competitions. For me, the simpler, the better and more reliable.
  16. Specialforce
    +1
    5 December 2011 00: 54
    I’ll fight with old weapons (even shoot a poker once a year, and I have a duck every time I take it in my hands ..)) in our unit it was like this: each person went through the equipment (they already knew what was needed) the special means were Soviet - everything worked like dad's carlo pinocchio))
  17. Kavdim
    +2
    6 December 2011 11: 01
    guys Yudashkin and Zaitsev did only design. The materials themselves choose defense order. And then you yourself understand the auction. Who will offer cheaper and the money will be, that’s what they sew from, but inexpensively :(
  18. dred
    0
    12 December 2011 17: 22
    it will be interesting to watch
  19. 0
    27 December 2011 17: 27
    worldwide, uniforms are made by companies specializing in tactical clothing and ammunition rather than fagot fashion designers

    Form for Germany in 2 world, sewed Hugo Boss.
    This is not the point KASKAD !!!

    guys Yudashkin and Zaitsev did only design. The materials themselves choose defense order. And then you yourself understand the auction. Who will offer cheaper and the money will be, that’s what they sew from, but inexpensively :(

    Plus, you say it right. it is necessary to oblige the plant to purchase quality materials and not Chinese consumer goods!
  20. 0
    10 February 2012 18: 27
    We must start! There are developments! Here, as always, we have had one hindrance lately - "This is good, but expensive, you are cheaper for us, maybe you can take something away, easier!" After that, something is removed, something is simplified and the troops are bought in the price frame! Rogozin! Change the procurement system for the Russian Army !!!
  21. +1
    18 February 2012 15: 59
    To the left is the Grotto-M of the new generation. A convenient and reliable thing for the field. The main thing is to buy in sufficient quantities.