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ZVO snipers in practical classes master large-caliber rifle

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Western District snipers have started training, in which they have to master a new weapon and conduct target shooting at maximum distances, conveys RIA News message of the representative of ZVO Igor Migunov.


ZVO snipers in practical classes master large-caliber rifle
The original and the very first name of the project is SVN-12,7 (Sniper rifle Negrulenko chambered for caliber 12,7 mm), then - KSVK (Large-caliber Sniper Rifle Kovrovskaya), and the final version was the name ASVK (Army Sniper Rifle Large-caliber). Also, this rifle is known under the designations ASV "Kord" and sniper complex "6С8".

The servicemen will carry out firing of large-caliber sniper rifles, which began to enter the district from last year.

“In addition, snipers will have to complete a set of combat-training tasks, the main goal of which is to develop skills for conducting reconnaissance of the terrain and the ability to quickly navigate the battlefield. Also, military personnel will be given classes on masking, classifying targets, using various day and night observation and aiming devices, determining the distance to the target and firing at the maximum possible distances, ”said Migunov.

Help the press service of the district: “The KFW rifle is designed to hit lightly armored vehicles, various technical means of the enemy and manpower in the means of individual armor. The powerful 12,7 mm caliber cartridge allows the sniper to hit targets at a distance of up to 2 thousands of meters, while at the same time remaining out of reach of the aimed fire of ordinary small arms. "
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 27 January 2016 19: 46
    -2
    It would be better to indicate its characteristics, especially accuracy, so that it can be compared with competitors. Better is she Barrett, worse? And so the information about nothing.
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 27 January 2016 19: 58
      +4
      SVN-12,7 (Negrulenko Sniper Rifle chambered for caliber 12,7 mm.... Also, this rifle is known under the designations ASV "Kord" and the sniper complex "6S8"

      Fuck you! From this karamultuk you can darn right through the armored vehicles! belay good

      And why not "T-5000", too, is not extremely sickly pricked ?! Especially in terms of accuracy, range and accuracy. The Chinese were sold and calmed down ???
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 27 January 2016 20: 14
        +1
        I wonder who is being equipped with a large-caliber silent sniper rifle "Exhaust" ??? GRU?
        1. Maksus
          Maksus 27 January 2016 20: 48
          +2
          GRU and the FSB, possibly part of the special forces BB. Not a rifle for the army, it is painfully small range.
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 28 January 2016 05: 48
            0
            which last year began to enter the district from last year.
          2. Recon
            Recon 28 January 2016 10: 38
            0
            in BB it is not for sure. First-hand information.
        2. Asadullah
          Asadullah 27 January 2016 20: 52
          0
          silent sniper rifle "Exhaust"


          It’s not so noiseless ....
        3. delvin-fil
          delvin-fil 28 January 2016 09: 22
          0
          FSB and some (very few) Special Forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          To defeat cars and personal protective equipment

          Nevertheless, the muzzle energy of the bullet of the STs-130PT cartridge is about 2500 Joules (3 J for the STs-650VPS cartridge), and due to the heavy bullet with a high ballistic coefficient, the energy is better stored on the bullet trajectory compared to "conventional" sniper cartridges of 130mm or "silent" 7.62mm cartridges when firing from the VSS "Vintorez" rifle.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 27 January 2016 20: 29
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        Fuck you! From this karamultuk you can darn right through the armored vehicles!

        In general, this is largely intended for this. It’s quite difficult to remove people from it, a big error.
        1. zennon
          zennon 27 January 2016 22: 03
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          In general, this is largely intended for this. It’s quite difficult to remove people from it, a big error.

          It’s called anti-material. Here you can find:
          http://topwar.ru/38917-127-mm-snayperskiy-kompleks-6s8-kord.html
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 28 January 2016 10: 18
            0
            Quote: zennon
            It’s called anti-material. Here you can find:
            http://topwar.ru/38917-127-mm-snayperskiy-kompleks-6s8-kord.html

            About that in general and speech
      3. Maksus
        Maksus 27 January 2016 20: 47
        -1
        In general, rifles of these calibers are called anti-material. They are more suitable for the destruction of machinery and equipment. It is remarkable that such guns began to enter the troops. But. But is there anything more mobile, from which the navel will not untie, under the cartridge .338 Lapua. There, the range is also more than a kilometer and dope in the pool unmeasured.
        1. Blondy
          Blondy 27 January 2016 23: 01
          0
          Quote: Maksus
          In general, rifles of these calibers are called anti-material. They are more suitable for the destruction of machinery and equipment. It is remarkable that such guns began to enter the troops. But. But is there anything more mobile, from which the navel will not untie, under the cartridge .338 Lapua. There, the range is also more than a kilometer and dope in the pool unmeasured.

          It is possible and more mobile - SVLK-14S "Twilight", 408 Chaytak, 0.2 MOA, over 2 km.
          But it will be very expensive.
      4. Stas157
        Stas157 27 January 2016 21: 02
        +2
        I think this one costs a lot cheaper than the T-5000
      5. Blondy
        Blondy 27 January 2016 22: 49
        -2
        Quote: GSH-18
        SVN-12,7 (Negrulenko Sniper Rifle chambered for 12,7 mm ... This rifle is also known under the designations ASV "Kord" and sniper complex "6S8"
        Fuck you! From this karamultuk you can darn right through the armored vehicles!

        And why not "T-5000", too, is not extremely sickly pricked ?! Especially in terms of accuracy, range and accuracy. The Chinese were sold and calmed down ???

        The armored personnel carrier will not tread.
        1. Dam
          Dam 28 January 2016 00: 58
          +2
          APCs and the good old 7,62 * 54r beats. Question where to shoot
      6. Dam
        Dam 28 January 2016 00: 56
        +1
        Compare horseradish with a finger. These are absolutely different things in goals and objectives. It turned out from the category: who will defeat the whale or elephant
      7. Blondy
        Blondy 28 January 2016 04: 00
        +2
        Actually, the main problem of any "orsisos" "twilight" and other cool rifles is that they did not pass the bullying of army tests and are just a sporting and hunting weapon. It's like with people - without the KMB and the oath, you are just a civilian guy on the couch, despite all your coolness.
        1. Amnestied
          Amnestied 28 January 2016 05: 46
          -8
          Quote: Blondy
          Actually, the main problem of any "orsisos" "twilight" and other cool rifles is that they did not pass the bullying of army tests and are just a sporting and hunting weapon. It's like with people - without the KMB and the oath, you are just a civilian guy on the couch, despite all your coolness.

          Oh, wei mademoiselle, are you a specialist in small arms? The whole problem is that the ladies hang out in the men's sandbox, but it would be better to cook borscht!
    2. bort4145
      bort4145 27 January 2016 19: 58
      +7
      compare with competitors
      Then to you here http://dokwar.ru/publ/vooruzhenie/strelkovoe/krupnokalibernye_snajperskie_vintov
      ki_obzor / 17-1-0-710
      But I agree - the articles on the site are now more news than specialized, as (in my opinion) should be on such a resource.
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 27 January 2016 20: 09
        +5
        bort4145 (2) RU Today, 19:58 ↑

        But I agree - the articles on the site are now more news than specialized, as (in my opinion) should be on such a resource.


        So this is the section "news", but in the section "weapons" such an article does not belong, there are no options. yes
        1. tol100v
          tol100v 27 January 2016 20: 44
          +3
          Quote: NIKNN
          So this is the section "news", but in the section "weapons" such an article does not belong, there are no options.

          Who wants to know, or to replenish knowledge of modern weapons, open another page. And the performance characteristics of weapons of interest to them are found on the corresponding sites and sections. Even more interesting may be the work on the classification of alphanumeric indices of our defense industry (I simply am silent about the names from the flora and fauna.). If you get carried away, then stop writing unreasonable comments.
    3. Cat man null
      Cat man null 27 January 2016 20: 37
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      It would be better to indicate its characteristics, especially accuracy

      Here is a quote from an article on TopWar:

      Quote: http://topwar.ru/38917-127-mm-snayperskiy-kompleks-6s8-kord.html
      In accuracy and accuracy of fire, the ASVK large-caliber sniper rifle not only surpasses all known analogues from South Africa, the USA and even from Russia, but it is practically not inferior to the standard 7,62 and 9-mm sniper rifles in these indicators

      It is clear that it is not very informative. But if you want, I think - and you will find the details. Just like me this article yes

      0.5 MOA order accuracy, as I understand it.

      And here’s another sensible article about MOA and thousandths: http://www.ooting-ua.com/arm-books/arm_book_170.htm
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 January 2016 21: 59
        0
        Abroad, there are other even more powerful rifles, such as the Azerbaijani Istiglal IST of 14.5 mm caliber, with a firing range of 3000 meters.
        1. Amnestied
          Amnestied 28 January 2016 20: 42
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          Abroad, there are other even more powerful rifles, such as the Azerbaijani Istiglal IST of 14.5 mm caliber, with a firing range of 3000 meters.

          good
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 January 2016 22: 02
        +1
        South African NTW 20 caliber 14,5 and 20 millimeters with a firing range of 2500 meters.
        1. delvin-fil
          delvin-fil 28 January 2016 09: 29
          0
          Excuse me lamp? Mark arrow? request
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 28 January 2016 09: 56
            0
            This is not a flashlight, but a bolt housing
            1. delvin-fil
              delvin-fil 28 January 2016 10: 36
              0
              Vaughn ... I just didn’t ask Google.
      3. Pereira
        Pereira 28 January 2016 03: 13
        0
        Thanks for the information, I know what MOA and 0,5 are a very decent indicator. But why is this not in the article itself?
    4. Asadullah
      Asadullah 27 January 2016 20: 49
      +3
      , especially accuracy,


      In what sense? I’ll tell you that such an indicator is important to reduce the training of the shooter. Skill is honed not only by corns on the hips, but also by a long friendship with weapons. For such weapons, it is not the density of fire that matters, but the certainty of defeat over a distance in km. If a sniper starts firing feverishly, then trouble came to him.
      1. Dam
        Dam 28 January 2016 00: 59
        0
        More precisely, the northern fox
      2. Pereira
        Pereira 28 January 2016 05: 56
        0
        Lots of fire and density of fire are two different things. Accuracy is accuracy, and the density of fire depends on the practical rate of fire.
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 28 January 2016 18: 33
          0
          Lots of fire and density of fire are two different things.


          The question is not the difference of concepts. A sniper shot, this is an exact blow to the most painful place. Ideally, he immediately changes position. In the tasks of the soloists during the assault, skill is also the first number, here they are responsible for the success of the group and the lives of the comrades, and you will not fail after the battle that your weapons are not accurate ... Therefore, there are no high characteristics of such weapons advantage in battle. Moreover, they differ slightly. A good rifle is a small extra opportunity for a poor soldier to survive. A good soldier doesn’t have bad weapons.
        2. Amnestied
          Amnestied 28 January 2016 20: 43
          0
          Quote: Pereira
          Facts and density of fire are two different things. Accuracy is accuracy, and fire density depends on practical rate of fire.

          good
    5. infantry76
      infantry76 27 January 2016 22: 01
      +1
      All information about ASVK "Kord" is available in Wikipedia (in an accessible form).
      I have the honor!
    6. Blondy
      Blondy 27 January 2016 22: 46
      0
      Quote: Pereira
      It would be better to indicate its characteristics, especially accuracy, so that it can be compared with competitors. Better is she Barrett, worse? And so the information about nothing.

      Googled.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 28 January 2016 05: 57
        0
        I can of course, but would rather read in the article.
  2. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 27 January 2016 19: 47
    +1
    Cool.. good
  3. Smoked
    Smoked 27 January 2016 19: 48
    +4
    And do we already produce special 12.7-caliber sniper cartridges or do the arrows take away + - from an ordinary box?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 27 January 2016 19: 50
      0
      Another interesting question.
      1. smith7
        smith7 27 January 2016 19: 56
        0
        There are cartridges. True, I do not know exactly how much is available in the troops.
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 27 January 2016 20: 02
      +3
      Quote: Smoked
      A special sniper cartridges 12.7 caliber we already produce

      7H34 -?

      Index 7H34
      Sleeve material / sheath material Brass / Bimetal
      The average value of the velocity of the bullet V25, m / s 770-785
      The maximum pressure of the powder gases, average / greatest, kgf / cm2 3100/3300
      Bullet weight, g 59,20
      Cartridge weight, g 147,70
      Accuracy of shooting, R100 at a distance of 300m, cm 8,5
      Amount of cartridges in a box, pcs 160
      The purpose of the cartridge To defeat enemy manpower, equipped with individual means of armor protection, ground and low-flying equipment
      Special action of a bullet Armor-piercing action of bullets on an armored sheet of brand 2P with a thickness of 10 mm at a distance of 627 meters to 899 meters - at least 80%
    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 27 January 2016 20: 03
      +3
      Quote: Smoked
      And do we already produce special 12.7-caliber sniper cartridges or do the arrows take away + - from an ordinary box?

      Novosibirsk http://www.lveplant.ru/pages_ru.php?id=09
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 27 January 2016 20: 10
        +3
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Quote: Smoked
        And do we already produce special 12.7-caliber sniper cartridges or do the arrows take away + - from an ordinary box?

        Novosibirsk http://www.lveplant.ru/pages_ru.php?id=09

        I read somewhere Old. Snipers complain about the quality of the ammo. Leaving for competitions they buy imported cartridges from their pockets. If my memory serves me they prefer "Magnum"
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 27 January 2016 21: 04
          +5
          Quote: keel 31
          I read somewhere Old. Snipers complain about the quality of the cartridges.

          I won’t say for army ammunition, but civilians come across disgusting quality, although Novosibirsk is still better than Barnaul. request
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 27 January 2016 22: 47
            +6
            Quote: Vladimirets
            but civilians come across disgusting quality,

            I agree with you. Directly, some kind of trouble. I buy batches of 300 pieces, I have to sort and sort by the piece. When I raise this question, the answer is "but cheap, if you want good ones, buy imported ..." What a damn approach. This is real money , cartridges are always needed, under any government. It looks like their equipment is still shaggy, otherwise I can't explain this hand-cracking ...
            Would have allowed then "reloading" for rifled, which they are afraid. And now even smoothborers equip themselves 10 percent. And for me this is a whole ritual, a ritual of respect for weapons and the beast.
            People on the contrary need to be taught, to instill a culture of handling weapons. Because calm times without wars will not come soon.
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 28 January 2016 00: 00
              +2
              Quote: Barkhan
              Would then allow "reloading" for the rifled, which they fear.

              Again, you need high-quality bullets, cartridges, capsule and gunpowder, but where are they? For fun, the noses of bullets from Barnaul cartridges were stitched, so up to a third is empty under the shell, moreover with oblique filling, what stable shooting can we talk about? recourse
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 28 January 2016 00: 58
                +5
                Well, for starters, they would allow it. Manufacturers will catch up. For a smooth-bore, now everything is full.
                Quote: Vladimirets
                For fun, the noses of bullets from Barnaul cartridges were stitched, so up to a third is empty under the shell, moreover with oblique filling, what stable shooting can we talk about?

                This is also what ... This is, so to speak, a hidden defect. But the stupidly different weight distribution of gunpowder, bullets and, as a result, the cartridges themselves is simply shocking. The different planting of bullets in the cartridge case is noticeable stupidly visually. And even the misaligned landing, noticeable if the cartridge is rolled on the table. Well, and dents and cracks in the neck of the cartridge ... I just throw them away. It's dangerous to shoot them.
                I sometimes think, maybe this is such a policy, complicating the life of armed Russians, by all available means ...
              2. Dam
                Dam 28 January 2016 01: 16
                0
                Gunpowder Sunar 308 under a heavy bullet and 5,56 under a light bullet. The KVB 7 buttons are no worse than imported buttons (if you are not charging magnums). The imported sleeve runs 10 laps. But with a bullet woe, thanks to the Finns for Lapua Skenar and Mega. But if the hole is plugged, you can pour it yourself, gadgets and calibrators to help, for hunting accuracy is more than acceptable, but alas for sports
            2. Dam
              Dam 28 January 2016 01: 11
              -1
              Sorry, I didn’t quite understand why you are sorting it out. If you have Russian weapons, then it eats everything in geometry, but the uniformity of charge and bullet leaves much to be desired. But you are unlikely to define it visually. There are misfires in some old parties (especially Tula sins). Looks like talking about a smoothbore cartridge, this happens often there. At Barnaul on Saig for 9000 there were no misfires I have never seen.
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 28 January 2016 10: 27
                +1
                Quote: Damm
                But you are unlikely to define it visually.

                It’s very simple ... put ten pieces in a row on a flat table and cover the top with rulers. You can immediately see the difference in the depth of the bullets in the shells. The task is simply to divide into the same groups. Chinese-made electronic pharmacy scales allow you to divide cartridges into groups according to the total weight .Coherence is also checked simply, put the cartridge on the table and slowly roll it, if there is a frank marriage, then the tip of the bullet will describe the circle, which in turn means ... when fired, the bullet will enter the grooves not symmetrically.
                1. Dam
                  Dam 28 January 2016 14: 50
                  0
                  the depth of the bullet landing at hunting distances of 100-250 m will not give serious scatter. And I’ll take everything else into service, although I haven’t come across such a low-quality cartridge for a long time.
            3. nicolay338
              nicolay338 28 January 2016 15: 36
              0
              I dare to assure that military athletes in the USSR used special ammunition from separate zinc. He did not make any comparisons with combined arms. What can we say about today's civilian ammunition))) Take - it means it is in demand)))
          2. Dam
            Dam 28 January 2016 01: 06
            +1
            You can argue, I love Barnaul more. But it is very unstable from party to party. Come down for the hunt. For an accurate shot at the competition there.
        2. Dam
          Dam 28 January 2016 01: 05
          0
          Your brain is cheating on you. I don’t even know how to explain in an accessible language to you what you wrote. When traveling to the competition, they buy magnum and hammer it into the chamber with a hammer. If they shoot weapons of caliber not accepted for service, then use the appropriate cartridge. And for competitions, cartridges are most often made independently for goals and objectives.
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 27 January 2016 20: 10
      0
      Quote: Smoked
      And do we already produce special 12.7-caliber sniper cartridges or do the arrows take away + - from an ordinary box?

      Yes, it’s just that everything-it fails with BTR-there is ammunition, it doesn’t fill-load with firewood! lol
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 27 January 2016 22: 56
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Yes, it’s just that everything-it fails with BTR-there is ammunition, it doesn’t fill-load with firewood!

        If you only find weapons with such a caliber in an APC.
    5. delvin-fil
      delvin-fil 28 January 2016 09: 52
      0
      Serially and for a long time (unlike a rifle):
      SC-130VPS - guaranteed penetration of 16mm steel plate at a range of 200 meters or heavy bulletproof vest 5 protection class (according to GOST) at a distance of 100 meters.
  4. soroKING
    soroKING 27 January 2016 19: 54
    -19 qualifying.
    Quote: Smoked
    And do we already produce special 12.7-caliber sniper cartridges or do the arrows take away + - from an ordinary box?

    But what about ... on each remote control optical sight wassat
  5. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 27 January 2016 20: 04
    -23 qualifying.
    Good job with a sniper, lie to yourself and shoot Leberaids from the Tolerast shelter !!!.
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 27 January 2016 20: 16
      +2
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Good job with a sniper, lie to yourself and shoot Leberaids from the Tolerast shelter !!!.

      Until the sniper is calculated, and the coordinates are not reported to the crew of the tank or ATGM calculation. Yes, and try to run march-throws with such a bandura.
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 27 January 2016 20: 20
      +2
      Well, act ... And an eccentric can envy ...
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Good job with a sniper, lie to yourself and shoot Leberaids from the Tolerast shelter !!!.
    3. tol100v
      tol100v 27 January 2016 20: 56
      0
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Good work

      Tedious! Liberastov need from "Tornado" And "Buratino"! And the work of a sniper must be respected!
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  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 January 2016 20: 08
    +4
    Ordinary ammo from this monster is not worth shooting, gross machine gun will give a lot of dispersion. A sniper ammunition fits into 1 MOA. So for two kilometers a person this is unlikely, but by car or plane in the parking lot - just right. But in general - a good device, no worse than Barrett. For ultra-long and ultra-precise shooting, another caliber is also designed - the 408th, with a special bullet. The bullet must maintain supersonic speed over the entire distance of the fire, because when the sound barrier crosses, oscillations appear, and no longer wait for any accuracy.
  7. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 27 January 2016 20: 09
    0
    The thing is of course fucking, but you need to have a steel shoulder and a trolley under it.
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 27 January 2016 20: 17
      0
      The recoil is partially compensated by the muzzle brake, and the BC on the machine will be brought up.
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 27 January 2016 20: 25
        0
        Quote: Kent0001
        The recoil is partially offset by a muzzle brake

        Yes, recently they began to set it, but the sniper doesn’t feel much love ..... but the machine is still cool.
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 28 January 2016 09: 30
          0
          In fact, the muzzle brake always unmasks the arrow (gun) - raised dust, quivering leaves.
      2. Dam
        Dam 28 January 2016 01: 19
        0
        And you try. 10 shots from 338, LM are enough for me to feel straight hit in the head
  8. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 27 January 2016 20: 21
    +2
    Serious complex. Is this a sniper platoon of the brigade or is it already at the level of the battalion?
  9. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 27 January 2016 20: 24
    0
    Worthy "descendant" of the PTRD.
    1. PKK
      PKK 27 January 2016 20: 41
      -14 qualifying.
      What is different from the dragoons did not say.
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 28 January 2016 09: 31
      +2
      "Worthy" descendant of "PTRD."
      As far as I know, PTRD and PTRS have a caliber of 14,5, not 12,7. Learn the materiel.
  10. Papapg
    Papapg 27 January 2016 20: 25
    -1
    Interestingly, what will the civilian version of the 12,7 caliber be called? SVD is Tiger, AK, SCS, Mosinka, etc. hunters have all the models, but the elephant has nothing to go with.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 27 January 2016 21: 00
      +1
      Quote: Papapg
      and the elephant has nothing to go with.

      You forgot the forty-five!
  11. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 27 January 2016 20: 34
    +4
    A good damn bullet is called flying crowbars. Very hunt for her to be crazy.
  12. denni
    denni 27 January 2016 20: 37
    +1
    Quote: Papapg
    Interestingly, what will the civilian version of the 12,7 caliber be called? SVD is Tiger, AK, SCS, Mosinka, etc. hunters have all the models, but the elephant has nothing to go with.

    For a 12,7-plus citizen, whoever are going to shoot is a tyrannosaurus?))) And have you got elephants in the region? Well, then I'll come to you with my Browning Maxus)
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 27 January 2016 20: 53
      +1
      12 gauge will not be enough 4 tons put 600 caliber nitro express with a threaded fitting they take read when hit in the head on the ass elephant sits
  13. PKK
    PKK 27 January 2016 20: 39
    -6
    Was going to read about "Exhaust", the cord is more self-dangerous in the fields.
  14. Massik
    Massik 27 January 2016 20: 49
    +2
    The question is, what is the quality of gross rifles? We already have a bunch of examples when a wonderful weapon is adopted, but in shitty quality of execution. We have not yet learned how to do it in the Union.
    At the expense of the destroyed armored personnel carriers, not a single modern armored personnel carrier of a potential enemy from this "pukalka" can be matched, what not to say about our modernized 80s, which the bourgeois 12,7x99mm holes into the frontal part like plasticine.
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 27 January 2016 21: 00
      +1
      The cord 12.7h107mm charge a little more + bolt all the charge goes into the trunk and is not spent on the gas engine - a powerful thing
      1. Massik
        Massik 27 January 2016 21: 10
        0
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        The cord 12.7h107mm charge a little more + bolt all the charge goes into the trunk and is not spent on the gas engine - a powerful thing
        When the armor of the side and stern is designed for a cartridge from the KPVT, and the forehead for a 30 mm cannon shell is a little confused by this power, breaking the scope with a much cheaper 8.6x70 can do without problems.
  15. pogranicnik
    pogranicnik 27 January 2016 20: 51
    0
    heavy, however. in the mountains with this will not be easy!
  16. kapitan92
    kapitan92 27 January 2016 21: 03
    +7
    Quote: Smoked
    And do we already produce special 12.7-caliber sniper cartridges or do the arrows take away + - from an ordinary box?

    Cartridges for Russian large-caliber sniper rifles

    Based on the old machine gun cartridge 12.7x108 thirty-eighth year of birth. Based on it, a 12.7-CH cartridge was created or as it is also called 7N34 for sniper rifles.
    1. Cartridge weight 141 grams
    2. Bullet weight 59 grams
    3. The weight of the charge of gunpowder 15.3 grams
    4. Cartridge length 147 mm
    5. The length of the sleeve 108 mm
    6. Muzzle velocity of 785 meters per second
    The bullet consisted of a shell, a hardened bow steel and a lead tail. This is not the best option for a sniper bullet - too many elements plus our production culture make this bullet not completely sniper.
    Cartridge 12.7-TWS has a bullet made entirely of bronze.
    1. Bullet weight 43 grams
    2. The weight of the charge of gunpowder is 16 grams
    3. Muzzle velocity of 850 meters per second

    Cartridge 12.7-SPB has a bullet consisting of a chiseled bronze shell with a steel core pressed into it.
    1. Bullet weight 48 grams
    2. The weight of the charge of gunpowder is 17.5 grams
    3. Muzzle velocity of 880 meters per second

    The power of all cartridges is approximately eighteen thousand joules.
  17. afrikanez
    afrikanez 27 January 2016 21: 15
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    Yes, it would be not bad at all to play from "Kord" good
  18. Chukcha
    Chukcha 27 January 2016 21: 33
    0
    I would shoot))).
  19. Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 27 January 2016 21: 38
    +2
    Quote: Marssik
    The question is, what is the quality of gross rifles? We already have a bunch of examples when a wonderful weapon is adopted, but in shitty quality of execution. We have not yet learned how to do it in the Union.
    At the expense of the destroyed armored personnel carriers, not a single modern armored personnel carrier of a potential enemy from this "pukalka" can be matched, what not to say about our modernized 80s, which the bourgeois 12,7x99mm holes into the frontal part like plasticine.

    But the potential adversary also uses 12,7x107, 14,5x114, 15,2x170, 15,2x207, 20x82, 20x83,5, 20x110 and even 25x59V.
  20. Michael easily
    Michael easily 27 January 2016 22: 04
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    Practice will show effectiveness. And the relevance is undeniable. Tactical (and maybe strategic) involvement of links with such a "addition" is always +++)
  21. Afinogen
    Afinogen 27 January 2016 22: 13
    +3
    Rifle "Kord"

  22. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 27 January 2016 22: 44
    +1
    Such units would be at a discount to residents of suburban homes in the Donbass.
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    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 January 2016 09: 58
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      It is a large-caliber rifle with a fairly wide range of targets that can be hit, and it won’t break through the tank - the armor is too thick.
  24. saygon66
    saygon66 27 January 2016 23: 05
    +3
    - It's great to make holes in armored vehicles, of course, but it seems like such complexes are designed for something softer ... Hulls of missiles, mobile radars, communications and electronic warfare machines, "nalivniki", aircraft bodies, and possibly the walls of gas holders (?) ... And the walls buildings of modern construction, from gas silicate probably not a shelter from it ...
  25. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 28 January 2016 04: 56
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    Yeah, shooting out of her would be nice.
  26. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 28 January 2016 11: 28
    +1
    Yes, it would be not bad at all to play from "Kord"
    I would shoot))).
    What is different from the dragoons did not say.

    It seems that VO became the abode of the guys who did not play enough in war games.