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Naked and barefoot "invincible" Ukrainian army remains without the support of volunteers

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Naked and barefoot "invincible" Ukrainian army remains without the support of volunteers



I remember that during the time of the armed conflict of the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the Donbass militia, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine was not able to provide its fighters with even the most necessary. The soldiers who went to the front (voluntarily or by mobilization) did not even have basic protective equipment and clothing, not to mention modern weapons. The maximum ammunition that the state could provide for the military was limited to old Soviet stocks from warehouses. About modern first-aid kits and berets there was not even a word.

It was then that the volunteer movement appeared, people who were engaged in meeting army needs, believed in the truthfulness of the information provided to them by the Ukrainian media.

While the state was launching a sluggish machine for supplying the army, looking for manufacturers of body armor and helmets, conducting dubious tenders, negotiating with international partners (and some officials were making money out of habit, now in war), the situation was taken up by volunteers. They traveled to the hottest areas of the front and carried everything necessary to the military: from socks and underwear to thermal imagers and armored vehicles.

"Everything was needed, from food to unmanned vehicles. We sent about 120 cars to the front, including a dozen fully equipped reanimobiles, about 300-400 thermal imagers and night sights. Plus medicine: 12,5 thousands of individual first-aid kits. And how many courses we had on the front line in tactical medicine - I will not calculate this for you, ”says Roman Sinitsin, one of the founders of the large-scale volunteer project“ People’s Rear ”.

Today, the battles have subsided, and, according to, again, the Ukrainian mass media, the army no longer needs any help from civilians, since the state fully meets the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the soldiers have everything they need, and not only ...

But is it really? Of course not! Most likely, the volunteers are simply tired of the endless deception by the military personnel and their command. In addition, today it is not a secret that Ukraine has more than 100 cases of fraud under the guise of a volunteer movement. The attackers raise money in the "charity fund" to help the wounded soldiers, appear fictitious names.

According to police, in almost all regions of Ukraine, fraud cases have been registered by pseudo-volunteers. Fraudsters collect a lot of money into a bank account, ostensibly to help the fighters, but the money never reaches the military.

Plus, the items obtained by volunteers are sold on the Internet. On the sites of free ads you can find hundreds of messages about the sale of trophies from the combat zone. Helmets, sleeves, military belts, caps, body armor, sleeping bags, chevrons, berets - such combat “souvenirs” are very popular in the net. Volunteers complain that, during demobilization, the soldiers do not leave their belongings in the army, but take them with them and sell them.



Such actions by “trophy sellers” annoy volunteers. Despite the fact that for such cases, resourceful “entrepreneurs” face the very real term from 3 to 15 years according to the article 10 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine, abduction, encroachment, extortion of military property by military personnel. Ads on the Internet does not become less, and the perpetrators are not sought and naturally avoid criminal responsibility.

Today, if the situation in the Donbass aggravates, the Ukrainian military will have to remember how to sit in the trenches in the winter in a summer uniform and without body armor. And to feed on what God sent, because the volunteers are already waving goodbye, but, as a rule, God sends a little - birch bark and melt water, that's all that poor people from the Almighty can count on ...
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  1. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 26 January 2016 15: 50
    23
    Helmets, shell casings, military belts, garrison caps, body armor, sleeping bags, chevrons, ankle boots - such military "souvenirs" are very popular in the net. Volunteers complain that, upon demobilization, the soldiers do not leave the things they got for them in the army, but take them with them and sell them.

    Such is the eternal nature of Ukrainian blasphemy! (with)
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 26 January 2016 15: 54
      21
      Even the patriots were fed up with the nest. So the "head hangover" will come faster.
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 January 2016 15: 58
        +7
        They are completely confused and begin to understand that someone is deceiving them, sobering and a bitter hangover ensue.
      2. bort4145
        bort4145 26 January 2016 15: 59
        28
        I don’t know how anyone, but when I mention the Armed Forces of Ukraine, not a single association with honor and valor arises.
        Closer to such an option
        1. martin-159
          martin-159 26 January 2016 16: 19
          10
          One to one trident on the cap is not enough!
      3. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 26 January 2016 16: 01
        12
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Even the patriots were fed up with the nest. So the "head hangover" will come faster.

        I don't understand the meaning of the current "volunteering" at all. Judging by the statements of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, the monetary allowance of servicemen has grown significantly, that is, the soldiers themselves are able to provide themselves with everything they need, and not beg like beggars. But, in an unequal battle with money-grubbing, the love of freebies wins the "odd knights" - they row the "volunteer" with their hands and ass bully
        By the way, the monetary allowance of an ordinary APU is now two times higher than the average salary in the country, and in the anti-terrorist operation zone - three (click).
        1. tchoni
          tchoni 26 January 2016 16: 14
          +7
          Well, if they don’t lie, then hohlozoldaten will receive normal salaries for the first time in their entire life :-) sala ruin,! -)
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 26 January 2016 16: 19
            +7
            Quote: tchoni
            Well, if they don’t lie, then hohlozoldaten will receive normal salaries for the first time in their entire life :-) sala ruin,! -)

            Heroam Sala! laughing If they don’t lie, then yes. True, now a fines system has been introduced. For example, for a drink - minus 50% of the monthly salary. Maybe not enough.
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        2. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris 26 January 2016 17: 02
          +5
          The entire economy of Ukraine is the ATO .. ​​There’s nothing more to do ...
        3. Altona
          Altona 26 January 2016 19: 17
          +2
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          By the way, the monetary allowance of an ordinary APU is now two times higher than the average salary in the country, and in the anti-terrorist operation zone - three (click).

          -----------------------
          By the way, I saw this table a couple of days ago and was surprised, multiplying the hryvnia into rubles, that the monetary allowance of a Ukrainian soldier and a svidomofitzer is comparable to the salary in the Russian army and, in general, the "strongest in Europe" army is okay with monetary, clothing and other types of allowance. Let the enemy just stick up, as they say, how the valiant and well-fed hochloarmy will with a "mighty blow" repel the adversary's inclinations. But it seems to me that this is just an advertisement and it is difficult to officially become a "member of the ATO". ATO line, and the assessment is not subject to payment of pennies.
          1. revnagan
            revnagan 26 January 2016 20: 33
            0
            Quote: Altona
            But it seems to me that this is just an advertisement

            No, not advertising. Monetary allowance has really grown dramatically, and still raise. The quality of troops is growing.
            1. Altona
              Altona 26 January 2016 22: 01
              0
              Quote: revnagan
              No, not advertising. Monetary allowance has really grown dramatically, and still raise. The quality of troops is growing.

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              And how many troops are there in Ukraine in general? And everyone gets paid so much? Then, with such money, it makes no sense to die. By the way, are travel to LDNR and back still roofed or not? So the military is probably more welded than salaries. It seems that there was a tariff of even 1000 hryvnias per tonne of cargo per truck.
        4. revnagan
          revnagan 26 January 2016 20: 30
          -1
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          rowing "volunteer" with hands and ass

          Give-take, and beat-run. A simple truth, and the APU knew it fully in their own skin. But I want to note, they really began to dress, feed and provide them with money.
          1. Altona
            Altona 26 January 2016 22: 05
            +2
            Quote: revnagan
            But I want to note, indeed they began to be better dressed, fed and provided with money.

            ------------------------------
            I just read yesterday that the command placed field camps in the ATO in a frost of about -20 degrees. In linen tents, Karl! In winter, in the steppe! Somehow it does not fit with "feeding, dressing, providing money." Yes, and many did not get a winter uniform, they still run around in the summer house, brag on Twitter with a multicam hebeshka in the snow and tropical camel boots.
      4. Al_oriso
        Al_oriso 26 January 2016 16: 04
        +4
        If these looped volunteers have already been reached, then soon the kirdyk will come to the Ukrainian army.
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      6. sherman1506
        sherman1506 26 January 2016 16: 18
        17
        In terms of theft, this army is invincible.
        1. mahnabar
          mahnabar 26 January 2016 16: 25
          +2
          At the end of the opus, there isn’t enough about fat from srainu! And dead cottage cheese
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 26 January 2016 16: 45
            0
            At the end of the opus, there is not enough Privat-bank card number. smile
      7. seti
        seti 26 January 2016 17: 50
        +6
        Another question was there were these "patriots" .. Personally, I know several of these "volunteers". There they really supplied some kind of ammunition and medicines, one even carried baby food. But history is silent about how he disposed of them. I boasted that I gave it to an orphanage. Doubt knowing this asshole. But these "volunteers" returned back to plunder the army. The fact is that many of them had relatives and friends in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the punitive national battalions. And they gave them property, equipment, in general, everything that is good or bad. Even cars were coming. Business and nothing personal - but only for ordinary Donbass people it is very personal.
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 26 January 2016 15: 59
      36
      But at least zamusuyte colleagues, but for some reason I absolutely do not feel sorry for them, no one called these ukrookarateli to the Donbass, and I do not want to feel sorry for the volunteers who brought punitive ammunition so that they would kill Russian people in LDNR. hi
      1. maxxdesign
        maxxdesign 26 January 2016 16: 27
        +6
        and not only Russian .. but also Ukrainians!
    3. Finches
      Finches 26 January 2016 16: 00
      11
      Let's be frank - apparently the Ukrainian Armed Forces today are rabble! It is unlikely that normal officers remained ... although - normal officers did not take the oath of Ukraine at all! And the young generation of Bendera residents has no idea of ​​honor or dignity at all - "Ukraine is a mustache!" - the slogan of the murderers, marauders and rapists of their own people! What kind of army is it?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 26 January 2016 19: 36
        +2
        All APU good winter packing - at minus 40.
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 26 January 2016 16: 12
      +2
      The naked and barefoot “invincible” Ukrainian army is left without the support of volunteers} -funny to read and look at the ragged people.
    5. Rezident007
      Rezident007 26 January 2016 16: 25
      +9
      No offense, rumors and conversations that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are doing bad things have been going on from the very beginning of 2014 ... But in reality it turns out that it’s not so bad .. Maybe the volunteers, sponsors, and the Defense Ministry somehow contain ... FIG knows them. If the soldiers of the Armed Forces were so orphaned and shabby, hungry and undressed, then the Armed Forces would not exist long ago. No, well, seriously. Of course, I understand the propaganda, but in fact, it turns out that if the militia cannot completely remove these shabby little ones from at least the DPR and LPR, then how are things going with them? Well, the paradox is ... Underestimating the enemy, they make themselves even worse ...
    6. EvgNik
      EvgNik 26 January 2016 16: 28
      +3
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Such is the eternal nature of Ukrainian blasphemy! (with)

      The head of the knight of Ukraine is Petro Poroshenko. I will never forget how he presented a footless ball to a soldier. Under a good hop. It would be better to give a good stroller. It’s a pity for her. As I understand Petya. His money is always a pity. However, he is a knight (truth - a Jew, spoils the picture a little, Jews are not knights, only dentists, really good).
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 26 January 2016 16: 47
        +6
        Quote: EvgNik
        However, he is a knight (truth - a Jew, spoils the picture a little, Jews are not knights, only dentists, really good).

        Giggles ... I remembered "Battle painting of the peoples of the world" by Ivan Koshkin with VIF2-NE:
        S. A. Finkelstein "Attack of the Jewish heavy cavalry near Grunwald" (in the foreground the knight Tsyperovich takes the armor of three German knights for debts)
    7. Rezident007
      Rezident007 26 January 2016 18: 56
      -3
      We heard about the stuffing of Russian media: The main military prosecutor’s office did not find any violations when checking the circumstances of the deaths of 159 Russian troops from January 1, 2014 to July 30, 2015. According to RBC, such an answer is the chairman of the commission on military-civil relations of the Human Rights Council under At the request of the President (HRC), Sergey Krivenko received a request to verify information about these deaths, which seemed abnormal to him. What is it, a provocation or in peacetime (officially, except for Syria, and then the Air Force) so many soldiers can die? Is it not in Dagestan during the CTO? Isn't it a bit much? Or maybe where else? Or are these everyday cases ...
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  2. Pak_c_TonopoM
    Pak_c_TonopoM 26 January 2016 15: 51
    +4
    Ukropstan steals everything. Even what has been stolen more than once)))
  3. Samaritan
    Samaritan 26 January 2016 15: 51
    +2
    And us army! fellow fellow

    P.S. and let's not be like the junta!
  4. sever.56
    sever.56 26 January 2016 15: 52
    +7
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/389/vxfm475.png
  5. NDR-791
    NDR-791 26 January 2016 15: 54
    +8
    Volunteers complain that, during demobilization, the soldiers do not leave things they had obtained in the army, but take it with them and sell it.
    If you even have to supply a coward, then do not be offended that the soldier will go home in them too. Well, take a thermal imager with you (a tank ... along with a tower), what a sporting interest ...
  6. QWERTY
    QWERTY 26 January 2016 15: 58
    16
    "The volunteers complain that, during demobilization, the soldiers do not leave the things they got for them in the army, but take them with them and sell them" - these are the Ukrainians !!! I remember the Ukrainians worked for us, they were not yet Ukrainians, they were just Ukrainians. They took home everything that was not nailed down. Once they bought all the installers headlamps, it was dark, but they had to work. And they were taken away. They cost 80-100 rubles then. ..And the Ukrainians received from 40 tyrs in their hands. So this is a national character trait, however))
    1. gray_angel
      gray_angel 26 January 2016 16: 06
      +3
      Atro heroes outlived volunteers who themselves hoped to get too big laughing
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  7. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 26 January 2016 15: 58
    +2
    Let the volunteers stay ... laughing At least sex volunteers giving a discount to the heroes of the ATO. laughing
  8. newcomer
    newcomer 26 January 2016 16: 01
    +5
    here he is at full height ukrnatsizm_ naked barefoot, but they do not need anything (army). but why spend money on them if you can rub these funds. especially since they merge Natsik through the atom. Natsik did his job (coup), Natsik can leave (through the “atom”).
  9. Andrey_Antonov
    Andrey_Antonov 26 January 2016 16: 04
    +4
    Their energy (of volunteers) and on another would really be a good thing to start up.
  10. Abbra
    Abbra 26 January 2016 16: 09
    15
    Something like this ...
  11. Orionvit
    Orionvit 26 January 2016 16: 15
    +3
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Even the patriots were fed up with the nest. So the "head hangover" will come faster.

    No hangover. The maximum that these "patriots" are capable of is to scold the government a little (for which they themselves rode and chose). But they will never abandon "hostile Russia" and the idea of ​​an independent Russia, not realizing that the country is stillborn. So the enlightenment of Svidomo does not have to be expected quickly, they do not admit that they themselves have created everything, and buried their already not living country even deeper.
  12. BOB044
    BOB044 26 January 2016 16: 15
    +6
    For me, let the whole army of Ukraine rest and freeze. She does not cause sympathy or compassion. They will give an order and go to Russia. Yes, only fear stops them. So do not mind their APU.
  13. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 26 January 2016 16: 16
    +4
    Melt water is possible Svidomo. But the birch bark in no case is a symbol of the aggressor, who cut down Svidomo chestnuts, acacia and viburnum forcibly planted birch. fellow
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 January 2016 19: 39
      +2
      So that from this little water and birch bark - for a snack, their diarrhea was torn every day.
  14. Roust
    Roust 26 January 2016 16: 17
    +1
    Shameful dill.
  15. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 26 January 2016 16: 18
    +2
    Volunteers will not give - they will take it away from the local population, not for the first time ... They will definitely not eat bark and melt water in the trenches ... So, you see, the local population will turn away from their own troops ... So they will "bend" themselves over time ...
  16. gla172
    gla172 26 January 2016 16: 19
    10
    Hope for God, but don’t go wrong ......

    Khokhlo clowns ... damn it ....
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 26 January 2016 16: 27
      +7
      In Lugansk there is still an Aglitz tank, which proves that the Anglo-Saxons began aggression against the LPR in 1920. laughing
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 26 January 2016 16: 42
        +5
        And the exhaust pipe to the naglosaks tower ... wassat
        1. Gormenghast
          Gormenghast 26 January 2016 16: 45
          +1
          The crew was apparently Dutch; they sniff and smoke there all the time. laughing
  17. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 26 January 2016 16: 23
    +3
    Paramilitaristrobomzhatnik, no one promised to keep him for a long time. The "volunteers" have not endless financial and mobilization resources either. Rogues are not served much. So, bread for food and no more. Without oil and even mayonnaise to lubricate the anus while in boilers. Military toys are expensive and VERY EXPENSIVE. In many ways, the USSR was ruined precisely on military toys. Where there is, as it were, a banderone-less understanding that exists for handouts from pimps from the EU and the USA, ending with hungry and cold APUs. It is already good to scoff at the poor, sick and feeble-minded. Let's turn to History. Protect always and everywhere before kozakouvalo otmudohivayutsya on all sides ukrobakteriya? For MONEY: Who will pay more (promises). For those and went from hunger and poverty. For the Poles, for the Turks, for the White Tsar (Tsarina). In passing, so as not to starve to death, their villagers were robbed and raped by girls. "For khgroshi, that grub is good!" (c) Here is their GOD. Historically, genes cannot be hidden. Now they are eating cannibals in Donbass. Starting with the funeral hymn, they profess the principle of eternally beaten, eternally persecuted beggars. And they cannot escape anywhere - the traitors of the Slavyansky Family! So they will beg, earning on cannibalism .... Until the stake of aspen in their womb!
  18. Samen
    Samen 26 January 2016 16: 34
    +1
    And I suddenly realized:
    a cycle of things is possible!
    Khokhlovoin who sold the "harness"
    get it again!
    Indeed, volunteers are great!
  19. Hammer
    Hammer 26 January 2016 16: 37
    +1
    nda, this is not a thousand hryvnias per day
  20. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 26 January 2016 16: 39
    +1
    What they’ll be surprised at, they will easily sell ukroin, only here the buyers also want everything at once and for free.
  21. vobels
    vobels 26 January 2016 16: 48
    +1
    ".. The volunteers complain that, upon demobilization, the soldiers do not leave the things they got for them in the army, but take them with them and sell them ..." This proves the cycle of things in dill. One of the ukro-scientists will now deepen and expand the law of nature, applying market buy-sell relations.
  22. Vega
    Vega 26 January 2016 17: 23
    +1
    Some cheat and steal, others "fight" and steal, and someone puppet and steal. The question is, how long can this last?
  23. Belousov
    Belousov 26 January 2016 17: 34
    +1
    Yes, there is simply no money, even the most stubborn Svidomo do not have a banal financial opportunity to pay for such "entertainment", especially after receiving new utility bills.
  24. atamankko
    atamankko 26 January 2016 18: 10
    +2
    No need to talk about bare and barefoot APU than before
    die, the better for normal people.
  25. hartlend
    hartlend 26 January 2016 18: 10
    +1
    I suspect that the support of the volunteers was carried out mainly with Western money. Then draw conclusions, ladies and gentlemen.
  26. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 26 January 2016 18: 45
    +2
    a thief sits on a thief and a thief chases a country
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 January 2016 19: 41
      +1
      Country of Uurobomzharia.
  27. MKP
    MKP 26 January 2016 19: 17
    0
    Major VSU has a salary of 4200g.
  28. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 26 January 2016 20: 20
    +3
    The creatures that kill their own people are called "poor things" as it is not humanly ... and in general there is some kind of laudatory article in relation to the "volunteers". These, blinded by malice, arm at their own expense (!) The bandits from the Armed Forces of Ukraine deserve only contempt and condemnation of notes, not sympathy or support, but in the article, no condemnation, on the contrary ... Minus the article.
  29. eleronn
    eleronn 26 January 2016 20: 33
    +4
    Yes, let them all get robbed there, go wild, take a break, freeze !!!!!!!! P O F AND G U !!!
  30. Vladimir 70
    Vladimir 70 26 January 2016 21: 47
    +2
    volunteering is just first of all a business .... just the population "wised up" and no longer gives these buggers babalo ...
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 26 January 2016 22: 00
      +2
      You are right ONE HUNDRED%!
  31. 4ekist
    4ekist 26 January 2016 22: 27
    +2
    From this "naked and barefoot Ukrainian army" one can expect a vile and unexpected blow. They have historical experience.