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You are here - a caliph for an hour, Mr. Erdogan

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You are here - a caliph for an hour, Mr. Erdogan“You are here - a caliph for an hour, Mr. Zemsky man!” - these are the words of the leader of the nobility in one of the novels of the writer N. Leskov. In his last hour, the Turkish leader can take advantage of the only chance to rise from the ashes of his own mistakes - to give the Kurds autonomy. It is known that the Kurdish issue is the most acute for Turkey, the most destabilizing factor for the Turkish top managers, a real “Achilles heel” for T. Erdogan, which undermines not only the internal composition of the country, but also weakens ties with world partners. It would seem that Kurdish autonomy in Turkey will only aggravate the situation and destroy the territorial integrity of the republic, however, it is important to be pragmatic.


What pays Tayyip Erdogan for the war with the Kurds?

Financial expenses. It is important to say that the budget that goes into armed struggle is the largest item of expenditure for any state. The Kurdish-Turkish armed conflict has already lasted for 32 of the year - a rather big term, the costs are global. Forbes calls the number to half a trillion dollars. It should be noted that this figure includes the costs of fighting all types of terrorism in Turkey, with all factions, but given that the Turkish authorities consider Kurds to be the first "terrorists", it is not hard to guess that these resources were purposefully spent on armed struggle against the Kurds. Turkey is more rational to spend the country's budget on the improvement and well-being of the civilian population. According to the indicators of the Better Life Index, Turkey has data below the average level (especially, experts note low indicators in terms of health, social relations, education and professional skills, work and wages, housing conditions). It must be said that distressed areas, mostly populated by Kurds. Poor livelihoods, lack of political freedoms and the right to freedom of speech, repression and murder - all this leads to even greater discontent on the part of the Kurds, more aggravation of the conflict, and even greater migration to Europe. According to the EU agreement with Turkey, in exchange for the allocation of 3 billion dollars for the maintenance of Syrian refugees, the Turkish authorities had to restrain the human flow on its territory. However, the obligations were not only not fulfilled, but also led to an even greater migration of Kurds to Germany due to massive harassment and bloodshed by the authorities.

Closely related to financial costs, the demographic criterion, namely the high birth rate among the Kurdish population, is the second argument. According to experts, this criterion can be a decisive argument in providing autonomy to the Kurds. According to the latest Turkish Statistical Institute population survey in the west of the country, the birth rate is much lower than 2,1, which is necessary for the reproduction of the nation. The number of births in southeast Turkey (just the territory of Turkish Kurdistan) is much higher. Accordingly, the Kurdish minority in Turkey is growing, while the rest of the country is not, which means the Kurds partly stabilize and determine the demographic situation in the country. By the way, 30% of the territory of Turkey is inhabited by Kurds and are historical territories of Kurdistan.

Human resources are the most important argument. This is not money from the budget that can be replenished, this is not weapon, which can be obtained from Western partners in NATO, is the lives of hundreds of Kurds and as many mutilated fates and families. 2015 people died from terrorist attacks in Turkey in 159, about 600 were injured. Turkish agency News Anatolia reports that in August 2015, Turkish Air Force attacks on the position of the “Kurdistan Workers Party” claimed the lives of almost 400 Kurds. For January 12 and 13, 2016, 15 people have already died. In total, at least 32 thousand people died during the 40-year-old conflict. And these are just some of the data. The escalation continues. The essence of the new round of clashes is that the authorities want to stop any possible initiative of the Kurds to take advantage of the geopolitical weakness of modern Turkey and realize autonomous statehood within Turkey. In this connection, the 10-strong Turkish army is bombing the Kurdish-populated areas, and the Kurdish PKK forces are protecting their citizens.

Risks of undermining energy relations with partner countries are called argument No. XXUMX. Internal instability leads to another argument of our thesis - a possible disruption of strategic relations. In particular, 4 in July was blown up by an economically important oil pipeline Kirkuk-Ceyhan (daily around 29 thousand barrels of oil comes from this route from Northern Iraq). On the night of July 300, the Kirkuk-Yumurtalik oil pipeline was also blown up, through which Iraqi oil flows to Turkey. The explosion at Istanbul Airport 29 December. In addition, two destroyed bridges in the south-east of the republic and a gas pipeline from Iran. All this destabilizes the internal security of the country and leads to even greater economic instability. Undermining the presidential rating is the next argument. In general, the reputation of the President is an important component of the trust of citizens in any state. 23 year - can be called the year of Turkey and Erdogan: his name did not leave the first lines of the Middle East events. Repeated parliamentary elections already make us think about the legitimacy of Turkish citizens. Since 2015, the neo-Ottoman leader, through his own traps, has undermined confidence in himself: a broken truce with the Kurds, terrorist acts across the country, the actual lack of freedom of speech, arrests for opposition sentiments, police killings, etc. It is difficult to say that tie ”to reanimate self-trust as the heir to the Ottoman Empire.
Undermining the tourism industry. Deutsche Welle of Germany believes that the tourism industry in Turkey could lose about 5 billion euros as a result of a reduction in the number of tourists amid an increase in the number of terrorist attacks in the country. Given the reduction by another 4,5 million Russian citizens, the most profitable sector of the economy risks to survive the crisis.

Undoubtedly, these arguments are sufficiently capacious for the attention of the highest echelon of Turkey to them. Tayyip Recep Erdogan is indeed wiser to grant autonomy to the Kurds, not so much for the sake of the Kurds themselves, as for the prosperous future of the neo-Ottoman state and the preservation of their power on the Ottoman throne. It is important for Erdogan to reanimate his status, statehood is important for Kurds. "Woe to the vanquished," if the Turkish sultan does not listen to reason.
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  1. Dam
    Dam 23 January 2016 15: 18 New
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    The Kurds will take autonomy themselves. And Erdogan is waiting for the fate of all puppets. Either burned, or in a dusty chest of history.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 23 January 2016 15: 22 New
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      Our Turkey! laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 23 January 2016 15: 25 New
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        Erdogan and Turkey are on the verge of big changes, but they are not in their favor.
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      3. Koshak
        Koshak 23 January 2016 16: 28 New
        +1
        Has it been more than a month?
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 23 January 2016 15: 30 New
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      There are only borders on Kurdistan. Peshmerga with mattresses hobble, Syrian seem to agree to autonomy within Syria, but the PKK should be helped, they will accelerate the end of Erdogan. yes
      1. BaLaLaykin
        BaLaLaykin 23 January 2016 15: 34 New
        +8
        to build within such borders it will be necessary to unite the Kurds, so this is from a number of fiction
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 23 January 2016 15: 42 New
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          Quote: Lalaika
          it will be necessary to unite the Kurds,

          That's for sure, there is such a tangle, for more than 100 years they can’t unravel. hi
          1. BaLaLaykin
            BaLaLaykin 23 January 2016 15: 46 New
            +4
            the Americans are trying to create a sort of island rich in oil and subordinate directly to them, snatching the oil sections of Syria and Iraq, so that the Turkish Kurds are not interested in them, only as a pressure on fag hi
          2. gergi
            gergi 23 January 2016 23: 00 New
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            No need to unravel anything. It is necessary to influence all segments of this snake ball. The destabilization of Turkey is only to our advantage. Kurds are also friends, comrades. It is necessary to be guided by EXPEDIENCY and not emotions.
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 23 January 2016 19: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: vlad66
        Kurdistan is only in what borders


        A beautiful map, but there is a significant drawback, it is necessary to fix it, lay a straight line along the western border until it runs into the Black Sea. a good beach will turn out from Georgia to Turkey; about 500 km
      3. SSW-GSM
        SSW-GSM 23 January 2016 22: 28 New
        +2
        A WESTERN ARMENIA WHERE ???
      4. garnik64
        garnik64 23 January 2016 23: 30 New
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        And this is all the historical territory of Kurdistan ???. Therefore, they will never unite. Van, Bitlis, Tigranakert, Kars, Erzurum.etc. are also historical cities of Kurdistan. The poor Armenians, even in Yerevan and ARTASHAT, which was built by the king of Armenia Artashes with the participation of Hannibal, according to the president of the neighboring republic, belongs to them.
        The Kurds cannot be counted on, the Ottomans have always used them in their own interests. If only they were used against their oppressors, then it would be "HIGHER DRILLING". They destroyed Christians no less than the Turks. Now it was their turn.
    3. sever.56
      sever.56 23 January 2016 15: 34 New
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      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/385/yitu145.png
    4. Tor5
      Tor5 23 January 2016 17: 26 New
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      "Kurds will not wait for favors from Erdogan, to take them themselves is their task!" (Almost according to Michurin).
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    6. The black
      The black 24 January 2016 11: 31 New
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      Turkey is hysterical. The air bases of the Russian Federation and the United States will be located 50 km from each other. If they hadn’t agreed, then they wouldn’t have built the air base with airplanes, bombs and kerosene at a distance of heavy artillery bombardment. Erdogan seems to have been leaked.)
  2. oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 23 January 2016 15: 20 New
    +5
    "" Tayyip Recep Erdogan is really wiser to give the Kurds autonomy "" - But if Tayyip Recep Erdogan is a complete brake, then you have to pity the Turks ...
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 23 January 2016 18: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      "Tayyip Recep Erdogan is really wiser to grant the Kurds autonomy


      He will never go for it. He will flood the country with blood, but he will not back down from his own. There is only one way out - the elimination of Erdogan and all his camarilla by Chokh, the return to the Ataturk constitution, democratic elections of the government, the provision of autonomy to the Kurds and Armenians and the transition to a parliamentary system of government (there is no guarantee that a new candidate for the Sultan’s chair will not appear). (IMHO) yes
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 23 January 2016 15: 24 New
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    According to the agreement of the EU with Turkey, in exchange for the allocation of $ 3 billion for the maintenance of Syrian refugees, the Turkish authorities had to restrain the human flow on their territory. However, the obligations were not only not fulfilled, but also led to an even greater migration of Kurds to Germany due to massive oppression and bloodshed by the authorities.


    Welcome to Multiculturalism .... in FRANCE.

    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 23 January 2016 20: 18 New
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      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Welcome to Multiculturalism .... in FRANCE.

      Are there no men at all? These wretched to send to the north of Germany on the coast to some sort of island, maybe cool.
      1. gergi
        gergi 23 January 2016 23: 09 New
        +3
        The north of Germany, this is not the north of Siberia. Well, they don’t have methods against Kostya Soprykin!
    2. pilot8878
      pilot8878 23 January 2016 20: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Welcome to Multiculturalism ....

      Oh "*" be! We would have piled on him right there and then without leaving the place. And their own.
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 23 January 2016 23: 25 New
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        Quote: pilot8878
        Quote: The same LYOKHA

        Oh "*" be! We would have piled on him right there and then without leaving the place. And their own.


        It’s unlikely to pile on their own. But our native cops would gladly accept him and put a magic police wand in his black ass in the department. Well, or a bottle of champagne. Upside down.
  4. venaya
    venaya 23 January 2016 15: 25 New
    +1
    Kurdish-Turkish armed conflict lasts for 32 years

    A short term, after the victory in Libya, the Kurds hope there will be more efforts to resolve this issue in their favor.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 23 January 2016 15: 42 New
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      Quote: venaya
      after victory in Libya I hope the Kurds will have more

      Libya, what side did you get into? There seems to be a branch number 2 of the firm "ISIL & C °" now ...
  5. avva2012
    avva2012 23 January 2016 15: 29 New
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    According to the latest Turkish Statistical Institute population survey in the west of the country, the birth rate is much lower than 2,1, which is necessary for the reproduction of the nation. The number of births in southeast Turkey (just the territory of Turkish Kurdistan) is much higher. Accordingly, the Kurdish minority in Turkey is growing, while the rest of the country is not.

    Again, interesting. One has only, for some country, to embark on a "civilized" path, so immediately, the birth rate falls, interethnic problems arise, etc., and so on. And, the Kurds are uncivilized, and everything is fine with them. PARADOX. Or is everything logical?
  6. askort154
    askort154 23 January 2016 15: 31 New
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    There was a problem in Turkey - the Kurds. The second problem came - Erdogan.
  7. newcomer
    newcomer 23 January 2016 15: 31 New
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    not. not to be this. Kurds can only use autonomy against a weak Turkey, or the state of Kurdistan with Iraqi and Syrian tribesmen. the Ottomans themselves will never give them such freedom. By the way, I am tormented by the thought that our shyanka agreed on Kurdistan. that's why rushing to see Ottoman. oh well, if so. there you look Armenia will withdraw its lands (with a weak turuiya, which will remain without NATO, with a break from the inside). apparently everything goes to this. Together with Syria, Turkey and Iraq will lose weight. Iran will bounce. because there are also Kurds. Vobschel fun is yet to come.
    1. askort154
      askort154 23 January 2016 15: 50 New
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      newbie .... vobschem fun is yet to come.

      Judging by the text, in full swing. We were all "newbies" once drinks
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 23 January 2016 18: 49 New
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        Quote: askort154
        Vobschel fun is yet to come.


        Here is a donut with a funny little bug:
        (cry.)
    2. avt
      avt 23 January 2016 16: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: newbie
      . Kurds can only use autonomy against weak Turkeys to start autonomy, or the state of Kurdistan

      wassat request What kind of autonomy "??? What are you talking about? Guys? Well, did they really take what the author wrote -
      According to experts, this criterion can be a decisive argument in providing autonomy to the Kurds.
      These "experts" are still experts. The Constitution of Turkey DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY AUTONOMY FOR ANYONE !!!!
      Undoubtedly, these arguments are capacious enough to attract the attention of the highest level of Turkey. Tayyip Recep Erdogan is indeed wiser to grant the Kurds autonomy, not so much for the Kurds themselves, but for the sake of a prosperous future neo-Ottoman state and the preservation of their power on the Ottoman throne. It is important for Erdogan to reanimate his status, Kurds are important for statehood. “Woe to the vanquished,” if the Turkish Sultan does not heed the mind.
      wassat ........ laughing Well, it would be easier to write from a large excess of Armenians to the Turks - Erdogan! Get it yourself! Revision of the constitution, and even Erdogan ...... laughing
  8. newcomer
    newcomer 23 January 2016 15: 39 New
    +9
    vl66. interesting map. it’s only where such a state came from, on such a scale, I don’t remember from history. and where did the Kara region go? with several Armenian cities?
    1. Yura
      Yura 23 January 2016 16: 09 New
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      Quote: newbie
      and where did the Kara region go? with several Armenian cities?

      As well as territories inhabited by Greeks and Azerbaijanis, that is, divided nations and having the full right to reunion and independence.
  9. jovanni
    jovanni 23 January 2016 15: 42 New
    +3
    I carefully read the article, but unfortunately I can’t share the optimism of the author.
    1. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 23 January 2016 17: 29 New
      -3
      .. I can’t share the author’s optimism.
      ..and I really want positive emotions .. especially on the weekend ..!
  10. EvgNik
    EvgNik 23 January 2016 15: 42 New
    +8
    Inadequate person with inadequate actions. We had good relations with Turkey, but again this is not the merit of Erdogan, but our diplomacy.
  11. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 23 January 2016 15: 46 New
    +2
    Kurds may someday get autonomy, but I doubt very much that this will happen in the next year or two.
  12. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 23 January 2016 15: 48 New
    +5
    "... the costs are global. Forbes cites the figure of half a trillion dollars ..."
    Which, with success, our cellulite aunts and aging gopniks continue to replenish! Through "third" countries. But pinching, as if rowing naked. In principle, hell would be with them, if then the Ministry of Emergency Situations would not have to chase after the killed carcasses. At our expense, with you ...
  13. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 23 January 2016 15: 52 New
    +1
    Nikolay71
    You are right, the autonomy of the Kurds is not a matter of one year, and that is not a fact.
  14. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 23 January 2016 15: 56 New
    +1
    Comrades! Waiting for April! And ... we look at the lack of our tourists, and as a result, the lack of income from the Turks! fellow
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 23 January 2016 15: 59 New
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      our tourists have already bought tours through Belarus, they have ol-incllud steers. And in the case of a sheher will yell-Putin help
      1. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 23 January 2016 16: 16 New
        +8
        Our fools, despite the warnings, stubbornly climb where it is categorically not recommended. Well, in case of an "emergency" situation, they will smear tears and snot all over the face and scream "ah, save me, because we are yours!" But we will save with the help of the Ministry of Emergency Situations or diplomacy, and we will be proud of this!
    2. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 23 January 2016 17: 18 New
      -2
      regarding the collapse of the Turkish economy - according to the World Bank, GDP growth in 2015 remained 4,2%, in the next 3 years - a forecast of 3,5% per year.
      during the period of 8-10% economic growth, the Turks tumbled into infrastructure, now they are reaping the benefits, and cheap oil doesn’t care from anyone from igil or from exporting countries, it is warming up the economy.
      Russian tourists may be replaced not in 2016, but already in 2017. Turkish price / quality has not gone away. moreover, tourists from Russia are becoming less and less interesting for all tourist countries due to a threefold decrease in solvency, they would have to look for a replacement one way or another.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 23 January 2016 17: 28 New
        +5
        moreover, tourists from Russia are less and less interesting for all tourist countries due to a threefold decrease in solvency, they would have to look for a replacement one way or another.
        Russia is written with a capital letter. Moreover, judging by the flag, you live in this country.
        You, by your comment, why are you proving that everything is bad in Russia? Does it bring you pleasure? If not, then what?
        I also understand the emigrants from the USSR living in Israel. Although they left, though they goggle, they love the former homeland. And you? Cite Great Turkey as an example?
        1. -Traveller-
          -Traveller- 23 January 2016 18: 25 New
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          the collapse of our economy does not give me any pleasure. if earlier I earned one money, now it is 3 times less and it makes me very upset.
          I didn’t talk about any great Turkey, but the reality is that burying Turkey with or without Erdogan is at least presumptuous.
          I write everything in lower case, incl. proper names, as laziness to press a shift.
        2. -Traveller-
          -Traveller- 23 January 2016 18: 25 New
          -2
          the collapse of our economy does not give me any pleasure. if earlier I earned one money, now it is 3 times less and it makes me very upset.
          I didn’t talk about any great Turkey, but the reality is that burying Turkey with or without Erdogan is at least presumptuous.
          I write everything in lower case, incl. proper names, as laziness to press a shift.
  15. newcomer
    newcomer 23 January 2016 16: 03 New
    +5
    Askord154 do not understand you. if you are about the letter letter_ well, I'm sorry. I already answered one ulcer, not just typing on a smartphone. no time for comfort with tea at the computer. and if you do not understand the essence, then ask what exactly, I will try to explain to you.
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 January 2016 16: 08 New
    +4
    No, the Kurds will get autonomy only through war, but here they will not have enough unity. And they won't have enough. Support of some state, first of all. Iran will not play the Kurdish card, in Iraq they are already "in chocolate", and the Syrian Kurds will not agree with the Turkish ...
    Therefore, constant tension will NEVER grow into the liberation of the territory.
  17. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 23 January 2016 16: 22 New
    +5
    Turkey is independent only from the wall to the sartir, then they have a bunch of "advisers and assistants" - essentially puppeteers. Erdogan will not be invented. If for more than 20 years a civil war has been going on, flaring up, then fading away, you think in a couple of months or a bit more can you change? you are wrong, because separaotism in turkey has been elevated to the rank of state policy and the Kurds will be forever alien and eternal enemies in turkey. Erdogan just went too far, shot down our plane and brazenly steals Syrian oil, but otherwise anyone in power in Turkey would be the same micro-dictator, since the times of the Russian-Turkish wars, the Turks only pulled on European outfits, but from this they did not become different. The Turks need to be retrained, convinced that the Kurds are not enemies to them, just like Russia, maybe in a couple of centuries the matter will move off the ground. and now the Kurds can live independently only on that part of Turkey that they will be able to conquer and retain, which means that the division of Turkey is inevitable? and here puppeteers appear who play the Kurds against each other without letting them weaken c central government in Turkey, but helping only as much as necessary so that the power there is not solid, but simply was. Therefore, the war of the Turks with the Kurds is a war for many decades.
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  19. Jan2016
    Jan2016 23 January 2016 16: 40 New
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    The United States will try to create Kurdistan anyway and create a semblance of state from disparate tribes. The main thing for them is that their American interests are respected.
  20. vobels
    vobels 23 January 2016 16: 52 New
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    ".. Beginning in 2015, the neo-Ottoman leader, by means of his own created traps, undermined his faith in himself .." Maybe it was these traps, the same puppeteers who helped him create, which are destabilizing the entire situation in this region?
  21. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 23 January 2016 17: 04 New
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    If anyone has forgotten, the Kurds are about 40-50 million and they seem not to be limited to autonomy. Even in the early 80s, the USSR "actively" woke up this issue, but then everything calmed down. Now is the time to stir up this topic, then the Turks will have something to do for many years, and Kurdistan will finally appear on the map of Asia Minor, and it is very important with whose help it will appear.
  22. kim. 230752
    kim. 230752 23 January 2016 17: 12 New
    +3
    I drove Kalina to Istanbul in September 2015 and drove across Turkey. My impressions are: the security structures in Turkey (army, police, gendarmerie) are numerous and well equipped, loyal to the country and the leadership, the most powerful in the region. The power in Ankara, solid and insidious, relies on them successfully. And this Erdogan will be at the helm for a long time ...
    He, of course, has advisers in the States, but blindly he does not obey them and is capable of independent adventures and nastiness. He is greedy.
  23. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 23 January 2016 17: 12 New
    -2
    Jamilya Kochoyan - apparently some kind of Yezidi. that still unbiased analysis of the situation!
    their Kurds themselves are 4m0, to say nothing of the rest.
  24. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 23 January 2016 17: 50 New
    0
    "Russia and the United States are building airbases in Syria 50 km from each other, - Times"
    These are the goodies
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 23 January 2016 18: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Lalaika
      Times "


      Believing "Times" - not respecting yourself - editorial fake. fool
      1. BaLaLaykin
        BaLaLaykin 23 January 2016 19: 18 New
        +1
        look on the net, there are also from other sources, about the American at RT, about the Russian at Staffor.
  25. alone
    alone 23 January 2016 18: 38 New
    +5
    ))) The author is still a fantasy. Believe in what she wrote, do not respect herself.

    P.S.Minimum 30% of the Turkish army are Kurds. In Turkey, 5 presidents were Kurds by nationality. Not all Kurds support the PKK.
  26. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 January 2016 19: 27 New
    +3
    The author wrote about the autonomy of the Kurds in Turkey and appealed to the mind of Erdogan.
    Why autonomy to Erdogan? For stability? 30 years they cut and everything is stable, so they will cut further. Turkish Kurds will have a chance only when Turkey engages in a war somewhere and gets defeated. But Turkey can always rely on the United States, for which it is quite suitable as a terrorist base for the Caucasus, Syria and so on. The US will not allow its weakening. You see, Erdogan constantly provokes Greece, Syria, Iraq, us. Now the United States has announced the ground operation of its coalition, guess at once, whose troops will enter Syrian Kurdistan? The States have already equipped an airfield near us. I do not see the defeat of the Turkish army, but it's a pity. No one will ask the Syrian Kurds about desires; there will be a republic. Now the move of the Syrian coalition.
    Will Great Kurdistan be? Of course not. Who needs it. To control and suck cheap oil, the two Kurdish republics, the Syrian and Iraqi, will do as well. Turkish Kurds (TCs) are not interested in them. We, too, cannot help, aggravation of relations with Turkey.
    The topic of the article is understandable, the wishes of the author are clear, thank you.
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  28. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 23 January 2016 23: 33 New
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    No extremes, no independent Kurdistan. 30 years, the Turks have suffered with him, half a trillion fucked up? Well, great, there are still 30 exciting years ahead and this time the Turks will not get off with a half-trillion, money is getting cheaper, weapons are getting more expensive. And the Kurds will continue to breed by budding until there are more of them than the Turks will become. And then it will be seen.
  29. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 January 2016 03: 05 New
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    the only chance to rise from the ashes of their own mistakes is to provide the Kurds with autonomy

    Erdogan will not go for it unequivocally. Now he is carefully equating the PKK with a terrorist organization, which will give him the right (as he believes) to legally destroy the Kurds. Here, Biden fussed as he arrived in Turkey and promised to support her in the fight.