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The collapse of the EU - who benefits and who is behind it

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Integration processes in Europe have significantly increased in the wake of the collapse of the USSR and 7 in February 1992, in the city of Maastricht, an agreement was signed, which initiated the European Union. And now, after the 24 years, the EU is on the verge of collapse. Are these events random, a series of coincidences or someone's systematic work? And should we rub our hands and quite smile from the current processes in the EU? Let's see.


The collapse of the EU - who benefits and who is behind it


What is the EU? This economic and political union of 28 states, 19 countries introduced a common currency into circulation - the Euro. EU share in world GDP in 2013g. was 23,7%.

And now we will put some key questions:
1. Who benefits from the collapse of the EU in the form in which it exists and vice versa, who benefits from a strong European Union?
2. Is there an influx of refugees to Europe?
3. Who benefits from destabilization in Ukraine?
4. What is the purpose of American military bases in Europe?
5. Who interferes with whom economically in the international arena?

We will try to answer.
1. Is the disintegration of the EU profitable for Russia? Is the EU a geopolitical enemy? - NOT. It is profitable for Russia to trade with the EU, solid currency is beneficial, a unified system of calculations and standards is beneficial, simplification of the visa regime is beneficial, and Schengen is beneficial. Yes, and these are our closest neighbors, with whom everything is intertwined with economic ties. It is beneficial for Russia to have a calm, reliable trading partner, and not only a trading partner, on many sides the points of view are the same.
Is the disintegration of the EU profitable for the USA? - YES. As a trade partner of the EU is not of interest to the United States, on the contrary, with a strong economy and a strong currency, the European Union is a threat to US corporations, competes with them, and deprives them of a monopoly. After all, it is known that the world is ruled by economic elites, and politics is just a tool of these elites, and wars are a means to achieve a goal if the policy does not work.
2. By all indications, it is clear that this is a carefully planned long-term US action, and not just a coincidence. What is the benefit of a war in the Middle East of the EU? - absolutely nothing. Firstly, the destabilization of the situation under the side, in the second influx of refugees, in the third the closure of the Middle East market for European companies. For the same reasons, war is beneficial for the United States. The goals are obvious ... After creating al-Qaeda, reborn in ISIS, the Americans destabilized the entire Middle East, occupied Iraq, strengthened their presence in the region under the pretext of fighting terrorism, and in fact selling weapons right and left, trying to control oil flows, sent a stream of refugees to the EU. Well, you do not need a strong and independent Europe, with a fully self-sufficient economy and making independent decisions, it is better to have disjointed puppet states. Why are Americans so aggressively promoting the sanctions regime? Sanctions primarily hit Europe, undermining its economy and of a plus side effect - create trouble for Russia.
3. Ukraine is another field of activity of the US State Department. Targets and goals? All the same. Destabilization in the EU, a reason to impose sanctions that will harm both the EU and Russia, it is possible to draw Russia into a local war, to gain a foothold in the region, to have a puppet, controlled state. Well, plus the market for junk, no longer driving and not shooting.
4. Here the question is also interesting. On the one hand, this is the legacy of the Cold War (there was no EU then), and on the other, one more knight's move. First of all, to keep some contingent near the borders of the geopolitical adversary - Russia, and secondly, to keep Europe under control, if you suddenly assume that the states will come out of obedience one by one. As for Russia, this is purely conditional, all these bases can be destroyed with one planned strike, and the Americans know this, and the transfer of troops will take a lot of time, and they will not fight in the open with a strong opponent, they will bomb the defenseless. There remains one main goal - to keep Europe in obedience, if that ... NATO? In its current form, this is simply an opportunity to siphon money from the budgets of other countries.
5. Strangely enough, no one interferes with anyone, on the contrary, trade relations are developing, integration processes are underway ... No one and no one, and all Americans interfere. They do not admit the thought of a multipolar world: the EU, Russia, China, the Middle East, do not admit the thought of strong non-controlled currencies (euro, golden yuan), strong states. Everywhere or shat or try.

Well, let's summarize. If what goes on now continues, the EU, in the form in which it has been in the last 20 years, will cease to exist, a serious confusion will be achieved in Europe, if not complete chaos. Should we be happy about this? Let everyone decide for himself what is best: a reliable and strong neighbor or a powder keg. Personally, I divide the West into two categories: the United States and the states under control, which do not have a voice, and not a kind of coalition advocating a united front.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 23 January 2016 06: 27 New
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    Is the collapse of the EU beneficial for Russia? Is the EU a geopolitical enemy? - NO
    about decay, don't care, "Schengen" for a hard worker from muhosr.a.nska is an empty phrase, but about the enemy, the author apparently forgot a little history ... it smelled of a liberal smell from the article ...
    1. theadenter
      theadenter 23 January 2016 07: 24 New
      +9
      The EU is wrong to consider either an enemy or a friend. They have a serious economic relationship with Russia.
      But the collapse of the EU of Russia may be beneficial - the breakaway elements can begin to build relations with Russia. This is exactly what the EU thinks, and the USA uses this to strengthen its influence and constantly heats the EU with horror stories about Russia.
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 23 January 2016 07: 44 New
        +5
        Quote: theadenter
        But the collapse of the EU of Russia may be beneficial - breakaway elements can begin to build relations with Russia

        I agree, as history shows, Russia has always found allies (temporary, understandably) among European countries against other European countries, weakening their common front.

        Article minus. Give out DUTER American for their MIND-no, IMHO ....
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 23 January 2016 08: 18 New
          0
          The collapse of the EU - who benefits and who is behind it

          Neither Russia nor the United States disintegrate the EU is beneficial. For it is better to negotiate with one conditional authority, rather than with a group of countries.
          But there are nuances here as well ... The US benefits from a separate limitation of EU political and economic ambitions. Better with social and economic problems for EU countries. Therefore, the split into political interest groups is what the American doctor prescribed.
          For try to agree and come to a common denominator on the issue of migration or any other, if the EU political society is represented by left, left radicals .... socialis
          you.
          Different right, ultra right, outspoken Nazis ... as well as globalists and antiglobalists .... green ... LGBT defenders and other liberals. And this is not a complete list.
          No, you can not agree with such a motley palette ... from the word at all.
          And the USA will support this circus, as long as possible, and reproach with the violation of the freedom of speech and the absence of democracy those who dare to push against the will of the USA.
          The difficulties in the economies of the West are not something random, they are structural in nature. The structure that has been shaped by the consumption and growth of consumption for almost a hundred years cannot be broken or redone with just a click of a finger.

          So, this circus for a long time ... and the problems in the EU will grow .... but NATO will not allow the EU to crumble.

          Of course there is a way out .... send the United States and NATO to hell .... well, or seriously limit them in actions within the EU.
          But it is almost impossible, as most political opponents of the government are either useful idiots or outspoken US grant-eaters.
          And the entire press of the EU belongs to six American media giant.
          Ie scold in the mass media of the EU, a country like the United States is almost impossible.
        2. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 23 January 2016 09: 37 New
          -1
          Quote: Aleksander
          Russia has always found allies (temporary, understandably) among European countries against other European countries, weakening their common front.

          I support, a powerful political and economic bloc is absolutely not beneficial for us on our western borders. And if Europeans ever think of creating a unified army, it will be like a sword of Damocles hanging on Russia. What for we need such problems in the future. It is better to let the EU break up into smaller parts at once. And we will be able to trade with them separately. request
          1. Former
            Former 23 January 2016 15: 49 New
            +1
            Controversial judgment.
            Forgive me, you judge from the point of view of the times of the USSR, perhaps ...

            Destabilized Europe, transformed by the Hordes from the East into an ISIS Enclave (quite a possible reality, by the way!) Is more terrible than the "NATO Bloc".
            Alas, the process of the disintegration of Europe can become irreversible, regardless of the US "wants".

            "Genie released from the bottle" ....
            By the way, "Islamization" (we are talking about radical) and the USA itself is quite real ...

            With them, religious fanatics do not agree, believe me!
            What is religious fanaticism, I know firsthand.
            This is a well-fed and shod NATO soldier, well, not a soldier, a Citizen of the Civilized State, there is something to lose.

            ISIS "martyrs" from the "deaf" provinces of Africa (for example) have nothing to lose.
            And he’s not afraid to lose anything
            -To accept "shahadah" in the fight against infidels is more than honorable - this is a duty (well, at least that's how they are taught)

            In general, if something like that happens, the "boiler" may "boil" in Russia.
            For now, I sincerely hope that the Germans will remember that they are still a Nation of Warriors, and not "tolerasts" in "pink trousers" ...

            However, perhaps this will not happen, God forbid!
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 23 January 2016 16: 04 New
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              Quote: Former
              Controversial judgment.
              Forgive me, you judge from the point of view of the times of the USSR, perhaps ...
              Destabilized Europe, transformed by the Hordes from the East into an ISIS Enclave (a very real reality, by the way!), Is more terrible than the "NATO Bloc".

              Yes, I admit that this is a double-edged sword. However, I believe that the now non-divided EU, all the more united with the Yankees, is much more dangerous for us at the moment than Isil.
              Quote: Former
              Do not agree with them, believe me!
              What is religious fanaticism, I know firsthand.
              This well-fed and shod NATO soldier has something to lose.
              An ISIS "soldier" from the "wilderness" provinces of FAfrica (for example) has nothing to lose.

              The trouble is that we can’t reach an agreement with Europe either, since there they consider us no better than Isil - the same barbarians. Yes, and the Yankees are constantly dripping on their brains and wallet ... Conclusion - both of them are enemies to us. What are they doing with the enemies? am
              Quote: Former
              In general, if something like that happens, the "boiler" may "boil" in Russia.

              The main thing here is to close the borders on time. And, of course, cut out the tumor quickly and clearly.
              Quote: Former
              For now, I sincerely hope that the Germans will remember that they are still a Nation of Warriors, and not "tolerasts" in "pink trousers" ...

              If the Germans remember this, we will get fanatics of the purity of the nation no worse than Igil, and backed by high technology. Especially once we have already passed this - in 1941. And with the proper leadership of the USA, all this will turn out very deplorably, again against us ...
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 23 January 2016 08: 13 New
        +4
        Quote: theadenter
        The EU is wrong to consider either an enemy or a friend.

        I would prefer to call everything by their proper names. The EU in this form, we are a hostile state, a neutral state, or a partner state, will not do this (sanctions and other information warfare, support for the coup in Ukraine, with the prospect of the collapse of the Russian Federation, Turkey with its provocation.)
        Quote: theadenter
        and the US uses this to strengthen its influence and constantly warms the EU with horror stories about Russia.

        Here I will also make an amendment with your permission, as I see it. The United States, yes, they incite the EU, but horror stories scare the EU media, and the citizens of this country, who sold for 30 pieces of silver. And the bulk of the population is inert, as they are used to living in the "Greenhouse" when they think and do for them. The events in Cologne, this is a confirmation, the Germans, as they were brought up, did so, they are law-abiding citizens, accustomed to being protected by the Police, in case of assault, they will be dragged to the courts. Just like law-abiding sheep, they stood and waited for the help of the Police.
        Well, then, everyone saw what happened next, the ruling elite, sold the interests of their people, they gave it to the "barbarians" to slaughter. What can we say about who we are to them, friends, or enemies. The answer suggests itself.
        Based on these events, one should and behave accordingly with these "Partners".
        Today, each state plays for itself, and for its interests, what nafig common borders, to survive himself. For me, the EU looks like a springboard for a further strike against Russia. The ruling elite in this case, plans to dump for a puddle.
        Well, when the fire has died down, you can sail and pull out the chestnuts.
        Something like this. It looks sad.
      3. gergi
        gergi 23 January 2016 08: 26 New
        +4
        It's time to learn a simple truth - the EU is an enemy, always has been, always will be. You talk about good Europe in the Donbas. Even now, when you read this, it is Europe that kills them. Indifferent and methodical.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 23 January 2016 08: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: gergi
          It’s time to learn simple truth- EU enemy

          In a pure form of the EU, we are not the enemy .... The EU is an amorphous and sedentary merger, which has grown out of mutually beneficial economic concessions to France and Germany in the post-war period.

          But only the reins of power from the EU are not in the hands of European countries .... but far beyond the ocean. That is meaningless and merciless for themselves and other politicians.
          The puppet should not have its own ambitions ... and in Europe not everyone understood this ... many continue to pray for a liberal economy and for NATO ... they haven’t cut it off yet.

          Donbass and Ukraine, this is a bit of weight on the neck of Russia, and the economic noose on the EU.
          And also Moldova is on the way. In the new democracy in Kosovo, the parliament was recently set on fire and the fist fights there are no worse than in the parliament.
          Add to this the almost complete incapacity of the countries in terms of their own defense ... their armies are NATO branches ... incapable of major military operations in their own interests.
          And also the economic problems of Greece, the Balts, Spain, Italy and others.
          And add to this a huge number of refugees, economic migrants ... which will lead to an increase in crime, terrorism, and so on.
          Moreover, power is in the hands of such as Merkel and Oland ... pathetic puppet of the United States.
          And the populists of the EU countries are dreaming of "freedom" of speech, multiculturalism, protection of LGBT rights and other ... interests that have nothing to do with the aspirations of the majority.
      4. avt
        avt 23 January 2016 10: 29 New
        +2
        Quote: theadenter
        The EU is wrong to consider either an enemy or a friend.

        Yes, it's just a religious liberal sectarian trend since the times of "Westernizers" and "Slavophiles". "Westerners" are in a religious frenzy and are now bleating nervously - "Europe will cope ..." request Here medicine is needed for a psychiatric profile.
        Quote: theadenter
        But the collapse of the EU of Russia may be beneficial - the breakaway elements can begin to build relations with Russia.

        Naturally! And only the sectarian I mentioned above can not see this. Well, the grater between the "old Europe" and the "new", led by the sucking, in the words of the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Poland Sikorski, from the USA. So - "divide and rule" refers to the EU in full - the author asserts
        1. Is the collapse of the EU beneficial for Russia? Is the EU a geopolitical enemy? - NO
        It’s not right. Of course it’s profitable, of course, provided that if you correctly dispose of the decay process, rather than let it drift and, even worse, give it to the USA.
      5. NIKNN
        NIKNN 23 January 2016 13: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: theadenter
        and constantly warms the EU with horror stories about Russia.

        And they were directly frightened (adults seem to believe in fairy tales) ... They are not scared by Russia, they are dictated by conditions, and they are afraid of the United States more than Russia and ISIS (banned in Russia) combined ... request
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 23 January 2016 08: 18 New
      +3
      I will only add that the EU is just our enemy both in terms of ideology and in moral, in purposeful and methodical promotion of their tolerant (ugh-abomination) "values" for example.
    3. gergi
      gergi 23 January 2016 08: 31 New
      0
      Refined. It didn’t smell, but sank. The author paid, it seems.
    4. sergo42
      sergo42 23 January 2016 09: 56 New
      +3
      Europe is an enemy, single or not single. Divided for us is even better - it is quite possible to cooperate with some countries and get out of control of the USA
      1. kashtak
        kashtak 23 January 2016 10: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: sergo42
        Divided for us is even better - it is quite possible to cooperate with some countries and get out of control of the USA

        to cooperate with divided Europe will be unrealistic. divided Europe will remain pro-American. only a united Europe can compete (weaken) American corporations. for a multipolar world, the necessary poles can only become a united Europe. the fragmented Europe is the foothold of the USA at our borders. that is why such a large-scale hybrid war is being waged against the unification of Europe. article plus.
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 23 January 2016 12: 05 New
          +1
          [quote = chestnut] [quote = sergo42] Divided for us is even better - it is quite possible to cooperate with some countries and get out of control of the USA [/ quote]
          to cooperate with divided Europe will be unrealistic. divided Europe will remain pro-American. only a united Europe can compete (weaken) American corporations. for a multipolar world, the necessary poles can only become a united Europe. the fragmented Europe is the foothold of the USA at our borders. that is why such a large-scale hybrid war is being waged against the unification of Europe. article plus. [/ quote
          In my opinion, your statement is controversial. It is now easier for Americans to control European states when they have a local overseer in the form of Brussels. If it doesn’t exist, then pushing through each state individually, one can tear oneself apart. For centuries, we have lived next to a disparate Europe and cooperated.
          1. kashtak
            kashtak 23 January 2016 14: 59 New
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            Quote: Hagalaz
            In my opinion, your statement is controversial. Now it’s easier for Americans to control European states

            I do not deny my opinion is controversial. and yet I believe that if European states can pursue a policy independent of NATO, then only as part of a united Europe. individually, the odds are slim.
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  2. avvg
    avvg 23 January 2016 06: 28 New
    +2
    Wherever you look, Washington’s hand is clearly visible and only the ears of the CIA and the US State Department stick out everywhere.
  3. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 23 January 2016 06: 28 New
    +2
    Aleesey is like the collapse of ukroiny - everyone predicts that it will happen literally tomorrow .... and with the EU! Let's not put the horse in front of the cart, because the EU can still overcome all differences and will exist for a long time. And it can rest in Bose - everything depends on common sense and the desire to continue to be members of a united Europe among EU leaders.
    1. Masya masya
      Masya masya 23 January 2016 06: 35 New
      +4
      The farther, the more convinced that common sense is lost ... somewhere ...
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 23 January 2016 08: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      - it all depends on common sense and desire


      This is just common sense and desire, a big problem. The top of the EU, the European Commission and Brussels, as you see, hammering all nonsense with their tongues, if only against Russia. With very few exceptions.
      A little lower, at the level of deputies and parliamentarians, more loyal opinions about Russia are already appearing. At the level of managers of large business (not all) and even small, the picture is radically changing, they have a completely different idea of ​​the world order. And at the level of the layman, taking into account the migrant influence, you yourself see everything.
  4. izya top
    izya top 23 January 2016 06: 31 New
    +3
    Is EU decay beneficial for the US? - YES.
    I doubt it. It’s easier for the Yankees to steer one Brussels than each territory separately. And so the Brussels reacts to all sorts of shots without spraying the efforts of the Yankees
  5. yuriy55
    yuriy55 23 January 2016 06: 32 New
    +1
    The collapse of the EU - who benefits and who is behind it
    ??

    Let's try to guess three times:

    1. USA & GB.
    2. United States of America and Great Britain.
    3. Non-EU English speaking countries.

    what
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 January 2016 06: 32 New
    +1
    If what continues now continues, then the EU in the form in which it was in the last 20 years will cease to exist

    This is how sane European politicians and analysts warn about it. And they perfectly understand who benefits from the weakening of the EU with the subsequent disintegration, but it is not customary to talk about this, and they are afraid of the "owner". Article +, but the author has translated into paper what is only not clear to some completely blinkered officials from the EU.
  7. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 23 January 2016 06: 33 New
    +5
    Personally, for me, even without these calculations, it is clear, like a white day, who stirs up water on the planet.
    Nothing, I believe that the day will come when America, in its own skin, will experience what it is doing all over the world! You have to pay for everything. And in full ... repeat winked
  8. evgeny1979
    evgeny1979 23 January 2016 06: 36 New
    0
    It’s even profitable, everyone will be for himself and these geyropovtsy will be less!
  9. gla172
    gla172 23 January 2016 06: 37 New
    +6
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    1. ILIA
      ILIA 23 January 2016 19: 12 New
      0
      Here ... and then komts is beneficial to whom it is beneficial)))
  10. Same lech
    Same lech 23 January 2016 06: 40 New
    +5
    1. Is the disintegration of the EU profitable for Russia? Is the EU a geopolitical enemy? - NOT. It is profitable for Russia to trade with the EU, solid currency is beneficial, a unified system of calculations and standards is beneficial, simplification of the visa regime is beneficial, and Schengen is beneficial. Yes, and these are our closest neighbors, with whom everything is intertwined with economic ties. It is beneficial for Russia to have a calm, reliable trading partner, and not only a trading partner, on many sides the points of view are the same.


    But what about the Poles, Balts, Anglo-Saxons who traditionally hate RUSSIA and constantly dirty Russia using the EU.
    A recent example with SOUTH FLOW, with PACE and lots of other things ... it's hard to deal with such an unreliable partner.
    And there is no guarantee that this EUROPE in its current composition will not meet again in a new eastern campaign to solve its problems again at the expense of RUSSIA.

    NATO, however, has come close to the borders of RUSSIA and is accumulating new forces to start a war.
    1. kashtak
      kashtak 23 January 2016 11: 20 New
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      But what about the Poles, the Balts

      Actually, these are pro-American regimes.
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      A recent South Stream example

      this is, firstly, an example of an operation against the EU. aims to eliminate mutually beneficial cooperation between the EU and Russia
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      NATO has moved close to the borders of RUSSIA and is building up new forces to start a war

      NATO is the United States and company.
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      And there is no guarantee that this EUROPE in its current composition will not meet again in a new eastern campaign to solve its problems again at the expense of RUSSIA

      what for?!!! In order to solve its problems, Europe needs cooperation with Russia (markets and raw materials) and cooperation (joint ventures). this cooperation closes this campaign tightly and for a long time, with any result. a lot of losses and no dividends. now is not the 19th century. Yes, and no one has canceled nuclear deterrence.
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  11. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 23 January 2016 06: 45 New
    +2
    Oddly enough, no one bothers anyone, on the contrary, trade ties are developing, integration processes are underway ... Nobody bothers anyone, but Americans bother everyone
    It is scary to realize that the fate of people is nothing, and the profit of a few is everything. No honor, no morality, everything to please the "golden calf". Your "I" is above WE. And this is punishable.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 23 January 2016 07: 04 New
      0
      And this is punishable.


      And this is rudeness ...
      and if the government turns a blind eye to such people, we have Voroshilov’s arrows and people's avengers.
  12. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 January 2016 06: 49 New
    +5
    I read, thought, and here is not a docking on 1 point.
    1. Is EU decay beneficial for the US? - NO. The US and the EU are promoting TAPok, everything is already in the ointment. How else? They seized power in the EU. So who is ruining the EU? The states of Europe themselves. They built one, but fell under the USA and get another.
    The collapse of the EU for the United States is not beneficial, but their actions give rise to opposition.
    When TAPok comes into force, European industry will be strangled by tariffs and there will simply be a European market for US goods, that is, EP.
    With the collapse of Europe, the United States will need to negotiate with each country on different conditions, and these conditions should be agreed upon. Rave.
    This TAPok will ensure the existence of the United States for another 20 years. Then there is another crisis, but Europe should already be ready for a war with Russia. For this, refugees, the rise of the right to power, weapons and a team of "fas" from the United States.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 23 January 2016 07: 14 New
      +2
      The USA benefits from the existence of countries with a lack of sovereignty and a collapsed statehood. Being on a separate continent, they "cheerfully", without "bothering" about the consequences, throw printed bills where people begin to be weighed down by the concerns of "outsiders", or try to get away from the path of development proposed by the Americans.

      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Europe should already be ready for war with Russia... For this, refugees, the rise of the right to power, weapons and a team of "fas" from the United States.


      Europe would rather become "rightist" than carry out these killing instructions ... winked

      Quote: Mavrikiy
      and the fas team from the USA.


      Not every dog ​​will find the strength and courage to attack a bear ... yes

      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 23 January 2016 22: 49 New
        +1
        "Europe would rather become" right "than carry out these deadly instructions for her ... Not every dog ​​will find the strength and courage to attack a bear ..."

        I think Hitler's Germany (read all of Europe) was far from left and attacked the bear at the command "face". Alas, such a stupid dog. Do you think she has grown wiser?
  13. aba
    aba 23 January 2016 07: 09 New
    0
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    The US and the EU are promoting TAPok, everything is already in the ointment.


    It is not yet visible what is on the ointment: https://interaffairs.ru/news/show/13997

    And if you can’t unite under your command, then it’s better to crush and destroy separately. For me, that's exactly what the latest events in Europe look like.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 23 January 2016 23: 17 New
      +1
      aba
      So what. Smart people are everywhere, well, protest. Who will listen to them?

      As of January 20, 2016 Quote: "The rhetoric is mind-boggling:" The largest bilateral trade agreement in history "(David Cameron);" Economic NATO "(Hillary Clinton);" The political leverage to promote European - and universal - values ​​in the world "(Cecilia Malmström). Transatlantic Trade and the investment partnership, which is currently under negotiation between the EU and the US, could become a reality in 2016. "
      You are mistaken, you do not need to unite anyone under your authority. They have been under the leadership for 20 years and are united. I wrote about individuality.
  14. SAM 5
    SAM 5 23 January 2016 07: 12 New
    0
    European countries pulled into a single cart called the EU will be easier to manage. None of the harness will escape and will not show independence. Well, the coachman (USA) can only push these horses.
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 January 2016 07: 21 New
    0
    EU actions are controlled from the outside, this has become noticeable recently. I do not agree with the author that the collapse of the EU is beneficial for mattresses. This is the degradation of strategic thinking in this very Stars and Stripes. There is no single plan, no single strategy. There is a desire to be and remain a hegemon. But the world is changing, and the response to change is becoming more convulsive and aggressive. The correct definition of this style of management is "reactive" - ​​ie. A reaction to an event that has happened, rather than anticipating the anticipated consequences. With such management, mistakes are inevitable, and large expenditures of resources are inevitable, which are not infinite. And the EU is doing the same. Two of a Kind.
  16. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 23 January 2016 07: 25 New
    0
    Well, I don’t know ... Maybe, of course, I don’t have the mind of a man who would think so far as the American helmsmen, but in my opinion it is more difficult to dictate the will of a fragmented Europe than the EU. And more people will have to buy. However, it is neither profitable. Disintegrate and begin to get out of control one by one.
  17. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 23 January 2016 07: 26 New
    +2
    As in pink glasses, the article was written. Such in the EU they are all white and fluffy, just one emotion. Since ancient years they have been glancing at our territory (especially individual EU members), because they are interested in resources, areas, etc., their resources are not enough ... The Poles, being in the socialist camp, crap without stopping, as well as the Baltic states, in general being part of the USSR ...
    I believe that the benefit of the collapse or preservation of the EU for Russia is a very controversial issue, many factors must be taken into account, there are a lot of things to weigh and calculate, far from everything is so simple, as the author of the article writes.
    In America, I agree. It is high time to find ways to show them the place and to rein in these exceptional ones. And the EU, I think, was created by them in order to have an instrument against Russia. And now this tool has begun to burst at the seams (apparently overdone with sanctions). Again, only Russia is really in a position to resist the star-striped outlaws. All these EU members have little guts ... Yes, and they are weak "to the front" ... And once again we return - "Red Army Warrior! Save!" ... And after the rescue, we will again continue to shit and do dirty tricks .. Because our nature is gay-European ...
  18. avva2012
    avva2012 23 January 2016 07: 33 New
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    I agree with the author on the main points. No wonder England is going to leave the EU. The rat is running from the ship.
    From the outside it seems that European politicians should have a self-preservation instinct. I don’t know what instincts remained, but, most likely, all of them were bought in the bud. And genetics plays a role, not in the first to go under the owner. Napoleon, Hitler, now the USA. About driving "one cart".
    They will drive the bought, not the cart. Moreover, if a country with an unstable economy, chaos on the part of migrants, then "protection", or its visibility, will be all the more valuable.
  19. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 23 January 2016 07: 36 New
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    Personally, the following scenario appears to me:

    The collapse and redistribution of the EU financial market. And the common fund does not divide peacefully (all of Europe owes to Europe, the USA and other countries of the world.
    The countries conscientiously licking the EU’s ass are the Poles, the Baltic states and most of the countries of Eastern Europe in agony.
    Refugees from the Arab world quickly individually Islamize this entire EU.

    In short, in this circus all in shit.
    And here the USA leaves on a white horse and gives out to everyone clean white scarves.
  20. X Y Z
    X Y Z 23 January 2016 07: 39 New
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    As for the benefits of the United States from the collapse of the EU - the issue is very controversial. The European countries, led by the Atlantic elites, brought down in one flock are governed much better than individual states with unpredictable presidents and prime ministers. Everything is decided quickly and by whistle. It is much more profitable for the US to have the EU in a single, but dilapidated state, paralyzed from a large number of problems and economically weakened.
  21. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 23 January 2016 08: 00 New
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    Is EU decay beneficial for the US?
    For the United States, it is also more profitable to "graze" one sheep, than a whole herd, and to play with a knife at the neck ...
  22. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 23 January 2016 08: 15 New
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    IMHO, the answer to the first question is not correct. IN EXISTING VIEW The EU of Russia is not profitable. The European Union, as an economic union of sovereign states, is beneficial, but not so. Why?

    Because it not democratic supranational education; it is autocracy.

    What is the European Commission? It's cesspool politically engaged bureaucratswhose population didn't choose.

    Why does the European Commission permit or not permit the construction of Russian nuclear power plants? There are national governments for this. Why does the European Commission get into the issue of Nord Stream-2, where there are clearly defined seller and buyer? Why are countries that refuse to extend unlawful sanctions under severe economic pressure? Why does the European Commission not like it when words about faith or the essence of marriage appear in the constitutions of sovereign states? Who and why instills homosexual in the EU? Why is the issue of quotas for refugees stubbornly being pressed? And if Hungary does not want? Who makes people pay green energy taxes? There is an economic law - while gas is cheaper, it should be consumed. On what basis is a consumer required to buy more expensive green electricity? That will be renewable resources competitive - everything will be decided by itself; but for now this is not so. Who dares the owner of the pipeline, which he built himself, for his money, to order the valve to be fastened with the help of the third energy package? This violates the fundamental principle of capitalism - the inviolability of private property. But the Baltic states, under the slogans of this package, are forcing Gazprom to sell their property. Why does the European Commission approve asset transactions in Europe? And then why the government?
  23. gergi
    gergi 23 January 2016 08: 20 New
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    Good to carry foolhardy! The collapse of geyropa is beneficial for Russia. The European Union is essentially under the State Department, and therefore hostile. It is possible to negotiate with individual countries of a disintegrated Europe, different options for different countries, play on contradictions. Divide and rule! Wisely and relevant. Give the collapse of geyropov!
    1. kashtak
      kashtak 23 January 2016 11: 25 New
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      with the collapse of the EU will have to negotiate only with the United States. European countries will lose their independence. here the United States and share. the collapse of the EU is power for the United States.
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  24. Alisher
    Alisher 23 January 2016 08: 28 New
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    The "collapse of Europe" should probably be understood not as a division into independent states, but as a decrease in the independence of the entire association. Disagreements within the EU over migrants, Poland's actions, sanctions against and from Russia, restrictions on free movement in Europe, costs of migrants, etc. only reduce the possibilities of a competing partner, and increase the influence of the United States. Example - Ukraine, the United States in no way wants its collapse, even agree to federalization in order to ensure the possibility of its further control.
    Secondly, the weakening of Europe (but not its collapse) and its Islamization are beneficial for the Gulf countries and Turkey. They have money, someone sponsors refugees, organizes travel routes, etc. Moreover, the Saudi refugees to themselves (massively) are not allowed.
  25. Geosun
    Geosun 23 January 2016 09: 10 New
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    Generally disagree with the author. Russia's collapse or the strengthening of the European Union is generally no sideways. The pros and cons are approximately the same. European states are under occupation, at least together, at least in essence it does not change. The United States will also all the same be Europe united or divided. Do you say strong Europe is America's rival? Nonsense! The American business already owns, in whole or in part, most of Europe’s best assets or buys what it likes for its notes.
    But, the crisis provoked, indeed, the states. And the reason is simple. This is the growth of trade between Europe and Russia, which began to replace the Euro-American trade. So here they say: nothing personal, only business!
  26. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 23 January 2016 09: 15 New
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    Here the question is also interesting. On the one hand, this is the legacy of the Cold War (at that time the EU was not yet), and on the other, it’s another horse move. Firstly, to keep a certain contingent near the borders of the geopolitical adversary - Russia, and secondly, to keep Europe under control, if it is suddenly assumed that the states will come out of obedience one after another. As for Russia, this is purely arbitrary, all these bases can be destroyed with one planned strike, and the Americans know this, and the troop transfer will take a lot of time, and they will not fight openly with a strong enemy, their lot will be bombed by the defenseless. There remains one main goal - to keep Europe in obedience, if that ... NATO? In its current form, it is simply an opportunity to pump money from the budgets of other states.
    That says it all
  27. Snail N9
    Snail N9 23 January 2016 10: 25 New
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    Many, in a fit of "patriotic" frenzy, see Washington's "hand" in everything, including the "coming collapse of the EU" due to the "migrant crisis." But this is not at all true. Washington is involved in all this only indirectly - it is to blame for the destruction of stability in the Middle East and nothing more. The US should not be blamed for organizing the "planned" migration of the population from the devastated Middle Eastern countries to Europe. In fact, it is the EU itself that is to blame for the "planned" migration to its territory. The fact is that the EU "played" with tolerance and "democracy" - with one hand participating in the destruction of the Middle Eastern states, with the other hand it also fed the "unfortunate" and "oppressed" "sufferers" from these countries. From time immemorial, Europe has loved all kinds of "insurgents", "rebels", "oppositionists", "fighters against tyranny" and other lumpening rabble - they are always carefully nurtured, whitewashed and presented as an example of "emerging" democracy. In this case, too, the Europeans allowed the so-called "first wave" of such fighters for "democracy" from the Middle East countries to settle in and generously financed them. Having settled in the EU, these "fighters for democracy" quickly imposed the entire Muslim community in the EU with unspoken taxes in their favor and at the expense of these "taxes" on the one hand, as well as due to "help" from tolerant idiots from public organizations of the EU, they organized this influx of migrants to the EU. It is among the migrant environment itself that companies have been formed that plan and carry out the export of migrants from the Middle East to Europe, because this is not "charity" but good business. Moreover, they then, taking away the last pennies, and send their unlucky compatriots back, if they are disappointed in the "European nishtyachki", want to return to their homeland. It was the migrant mafia who organized this "wave" of migrants in the EU, it is she who profits from this "process", taking advantage of the stupidity and narrow-mindedness of the authorities in the EU.
  28. 31rus
    31rus 23 January 2016 10: 39 New
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    Dear, what are you so worried about? In fact, the EU is now already controlled by the United States and therefore the collapse of the EU is now beneficial to Russia, unlike the United States, we can negotiate with each separately, but with an organization influenced by the United States, this is not possible, it is even more interesting with the bases in differences from the EU organization, a separate country can show "temper", close or prevent the bases, conduct its own policy, this is the problem for the United States, it is necessary to preserve the EU as a structure for management and at the same time make it weak and submissive, which can lead to the collapse of the EU, Russia, of course, a strong Europe is beneficial as a center of politics and economy, but in fact this is no longer there, so you need to quickly build your economy, your life, with the EU without the EU it does not matter
  29. Friends
    Friends 23 January 2016 11: 38 New
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    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Is the collapse of the EU beneficial for Russia? Is the EU a geopolitical enemy? - NO
    about decay, don't care, "Schengen" for a hard worker from muhosr.a.nska is an empty phrase, but about the enemy, the author apparently forgot a little history ... it smelled of a liberal smell from the article ...


    The general mood of the article really gives away liberalism. Though. Some logic and rational thoughts are present.

    But:

    The collapse of the EU - the problem is not Russian, but the EU itself. With a single center in Europe, it would be easier to resist political and economic aggression. They don’t want to - a flag in their hands ...

    Schengen - carrots for donkeys. If there is a desire and money to ride on a foreign land, the problem of visas - to any country in the world - can rarely become an insurmountable obstacle. If there is no money or desire, then Schengen will not help ...

    Relatively reliable partner - economic. It seems to me that the story of the sanctions and the Mistrals has shown all the reliability of the EU as a trading partner ...

    About the enemy. The author really "forgot" ...

    Though. I must say that the main beneficiaries of major conflicts between Russia and Europe - the last 500 years - are the islanders (England and the USA). And these conflicts, in a suspicious way, arise when either Russians or Europe seriously intensify ...
  30. Friends
    Friends 23 January 2016 11: 47 New
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    Quote: Sergey Vladimirovich
    As in pink glasses, the article was written. Such in the EU they are all white and fluffy, just one emotion. Since ancient years they have been glancing at our territory (especially individual EU members), because they are interested in resources, areas, etc., their resources are not enough ... The Poles, being in the socialist camp, crap without stopping, as well as the Baltic states, in general being part of the USSR ...
    I believe that the benefit of the collapse or preservation of the EU for Russia is a very controversial issue, many factors must be taken into account, there are a lot of things to weigh and calculate, far from everything is so simple, as the author of the article writes.
    In America, I agree. It is high time to find ways to show them the place and to rein in these exceptional ones. And the EU, I think, was created by them in order to have an instrument against Russia. And now this tool has begun to burst at the seams (apparently overdone with sanctions). Again, only Russia is really in a position to resist the star-striped outlaws. All these EU members have little guts ... Yes, and they are weak "to the front" ... And once again we return - "Red Army Warrior! Save!" ... And after the rescue, we will again continue to shit and do dirty tricks .. Because our nature is gay-European ...


    I agree.
  31. demo
    demo 23 January 2016 11: 53 New
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    Integration processes in Europe have significantly increased in the wake of the collapse of the USSR and 7 in February 1992, in the city of Maastricht, an agreement was signed, which initiated the European Union. And now, after the 24 years, the EU is on the verge of collapse. Are these events random, a series of coincidences or someone's systematic work? And should we rub our hands and quite smile from the current processes in the EU? Let's see.

    It is noteworthy that the collapse of the state (USSR) coincided with the formation of another association, the European Union.
    Both in form and in essence the EU will repeat the USSR.
    A single guide.
    Single currency.
    Single policy.
    Especially the bureaucratic apparatus of the EU seems to me to be written off "under tracing paper" from the late USSR.
    The same clumsy. Same blinkered. The same is not independent.
    To me, born and raised under the USSR, everything seems so painfully familiar.
    And if you remember who had a hand in the creation of the USSR, and look at the list of names that took an active part in the creation of the EU, then an unambiguous conclusion suggests itself - this people, in spite of statements about genius, lives only according to the manuals once made during their arrival in Egypt .
    Nothing new.
    And the creation of the EU initially meant pumping money out of the population of these countries - all the price tags in Germany (and a friend lived there by that time) simply replaced the stamps with euros.
    Those. the "rise" was one to two.
    Oh pa!

    The EU has never been strong. And he was not supposed to be like that.
    If the USSR was strong, then because more funds were directed to the depressed regions than to the donor regions.
    The Baltic states, Transcaucasia, Central Asia developed. Slavic peoples were a locomotive.
    The EU is the opposite. The rich have become richer. The poor are poorer.
    Where is the power?
    A beggar for a rich man is unlikely to want to give his life.

    But the power structures of Brussels are holding the local elites "by the throats".
    And they themselves are held for a different place by the guys from London and Washington.

    At the same time, we are witnessing the substitution of relations between peoples by the relations of political representatives of peoples.
    Which are mostly just talking heads. And texts are written to them in other places.
    So - "Everything was confused in the Oblonskys' house."
    Any unnatural association, and the EU is an unnatural association, will sooner or later disintegrate.

    For us, for Russia it is easier to talk separately with Poland, Hungary, Germany, etc.
    How to talk with Brussels, which is waiting for directions from overseas.

    And more.
    As soon as powerful states appeared in Europe, an expedition to the east immediately began.
    Recall Napoleon, Bismarck, Franz Ferdinand, Hitler with comrades Mussolini and Franco, etc.

    And we need it?
  32. Leprekon
    Leprekon 23 January 2016 12: 19 New
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    The EU was conceived as the dominant political and economic union of European countries, but it turned out to be just an appendage to NATO! That is why there are all problems both in the world and in relations with Russia.
  33. Freeman
    Freeman 23 January 2016 16: 24 New
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    IMHO.
    Why is the collapse of the EU not beneficial to us? The EU would be, to some extent, beneficial for Russia if it pursued an independent policy - as a "third center of power." And in a situation where "Brussels" has been bought up by the United States at its root and forces all of Europe to serve American interests, even to the detriment of the national interests of individual countries, the disintegration of such a "united Europe" is even beneficial to us. Playing on the contradictions between European countries, it is much easier to avoid various "sanctions".

    There are examples in history. After 1917, Soviet Russia was also under the "sanctions of the West", which ended with the "Rapallo" treaty of 1922 with Germany. As a result, other countries were forced to begin the process of diplomatic recognition of Soviet Russia and establish economic ties with it.