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Russia has begun to develop range findersight sights that will not allow to detect a sniper

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The Argus-NV company, which creates infrared sights under the InfraTech brand, began developing range finders that will not allow to detect the sniper’s position, reports RIA News The message of the general director of the enterprise Anton Sofin.


Russia has begun to develop range findersight sights that will not allow to detect a sniper


“We have begun to develop rangefinders for more efficient use of thermal imaging and night-time instruments in the dark. They will work at a wavelength that does not allow to detect the position of the arrow ”- said the general director.

Previously, the company reported the successful completion of testing the latest thermal imaging sights for small weapons, "Able to work day and night in severe weather conditions."

According to the head of the company, "the main positive qualities of InfraTech devices are minimum weight and dimensions, durable metal housing with high optical, ergonomic and operational characteristics: long range, long-term operation from one set of batteries, simple and convenient control, high reliability functioning on large-caliber weapons and in difficult climatic conditions ".

Help Agency: "The company" Argus-NV "was established in 1997 year after the reorganization on the basis of one of the first private enterprises in Russia in the field of night technology - NPP" Retron ", founded in 1991 year. All products of the company from concept to embodiment in the metal completely domestic production. "
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  1. svp67
    svp67 8 January 2016 11: 37 New
    20
    Of course, I congratulate our gunsmiths and wish them not to stop, since in the military sphere everything new is aging very quickly, and the soldiers’ life and the country's defense capability directly depend on their development.
    1. seti
      seti 8 January 2016 11: 43 New
      23
      A very useful invention in military affairs. It can find itself not only for infantry but also for armored vehicles and various aircraft. Yes, most likely later on thermal imagers and rangefinders, emphasis will be made. Why buy them in France when there is domestic and probably no worse quality and cheaper. Not to mention the fact that by giving development to our engineers we load the work of our workers. And we leave money in our country.
      1. Simon
        Simon 8 January 2016 12: 09 New
        +5
        It would be nice to test these rangefinders in Syria and bring them to perfection in combat conditions.
        1. seti
          seti 8 January 2016 14: 00 New
          +6
          Скорее всего в Сирии много чего испытывают. Не зря так бьют тревогу наши "партнеры". Они вполне понятно боятся что мы там наберемся опыта а им бы этого очень не хотелось. Там помимо морской пехоты наверняка ОГ спецназа ГРУ, диверсионно-штурмовая группа "про всяк случай", спецы разных направлений.
          In addition to the direct assistance of the Syrian army, polishing plans, training and the think tank, I am sure of their tasks there is a fad of working out and running the latest weapons systems arriving by air, checking the operation of tactical plans and bringing it all to mind. And keeping the results a secret.
    2. dr.Bo
      dr.Bo 8 January 2016 11: 58 New
      +9
      Quote: svp67
      Of course, I congratulate our gunsmiths and wish them not to stop, since in the military sphere everything new is aging very quickly, and the soldiers’ life and the country's defense capability directly depend on their development.

      I also really want that the time from release to adoption and the appearance in the army was minimal !! drinks
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 8 January 2016 12: 33 New
        +5
        Quote: dr.Bo
        I also really want that the time from release to adoption and the appearance in the army was minimal !!


        - I doubt very much that the troops - regular troops - will receive such toys. Most likely, they will be equipped with parts of the army special forces, and, of course, parts of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
  2. alex-cn
    alex-cn 8 January 2016 11: 40 New
    +2
    A very useful device. I wonder how it will look. Any emitter can be detected. Or will the wavelength be changed so often that there will be no time for notching?
  3. venaya
    venaya 8 January 2016 11: 40 New
    +4
    They will work at such a wavelength that does not allow to detect the position of the shooter

    Interestingly, perhaps we are talking about a wavelength of 10 microns (radiation of a physical body at a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius), but the construction of the proposal creates a feeling of a certain incompleteness, a riddle.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 8 January 2016 11: 48 New
      +8
      Quote: venaya
      but constructing a sentence creates a feeling of a certain incompleteness, a riddle.

      This is probably not a mystery, but wisdom about a cunning ass and screw, sometimes there is also a labyrinth in the labyrinth. :) There will be a new range finder - new detection devices will do as well - in principle, they are being developed in parallel.
      1. gg.na
        gg.na 8 January 2016 12: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: lelikas
        they are being developed in parallel

        So it should be under normal conditions! When doing one, do not forget to do the opposite!
    2. Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Great-grandfather of Zeus 8 January 2016 12: 09 New
      +1
      venaya2 -in general, the temperature of a living person is 36,6 degrees, and the temperature of 20 degrees is the temperature of the corpse being decomposed. That is, you offer the sniper to carry the corpse with him and shoot from him. It's not even at the person’s temperature, although this value it is also important. it is possible to make a remote complex that allows detecting spectrum changes, say at the moment of a shot by a sniper, or even cricket detectors can detect it by a simple shift when changing position, because the heat from a person, like the sounds from movement or working with weapons, cannot be completely drowned out or masked -for this you have to change many physical quantities.
      1. Mr shrek
        Mr shrek 8 January 2016 12: 31 New
        +5
        Yes, here is a neglected case. Anatomy, biology and the Russian language must be learned. So as not to write such nonsense.
        1. AUL
          AUL 8 January 2016 20: 56 New
          +2
          Great-grandfather of Zeus
          Actually venaya wrote about radiation physical body! This concept is somewhat broader than the human body. So in vain you were crucifying about corpses ...
  4. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 8 January 2016 11: 41 New
    +4
    long work from one set of batteries
    All products of the company, from the concept to the embodiment in the metal of fully domestic production. "
    Значит, батарейки тоже наши? Что ж, пусть вопплощают, "слепой сказал-посмотрим".
  5. Leprekon
    Leprekon 8 January 2016 11: 41 New
    +2
    based on one of the first private enterprises in Russia
    In those days, exclusively profitable, promising and high-tech enterprises were privatized. Only the most sought-after popular goods went under the hammer. And to engineering staff, honor and praise.
  6. The black
    The black 8 January 2016 11: 53 New
    +4
    If they say that they are creating, then it means they have already created, have experienced and are introducing without any noise. This is very much in the style of GDP - do not bother about what is not yet. smile
    1. gg.na
      gg.na 8 January 2016 12: 04 New
      -2
      Quote: Black
      Do not talk about what is not yet.

      Correctly! This is what real men do !!! They don’t rub your tongue into the empty, but quietly do the thing, and now when the job is done, you can say! And it is possible to show !!! And our president is a man with a capital letter! bully
  7. valokordin
    valokordin 8 January 2016 11: 55 New
    +3
    I think the device will be successful and for testing and use send it to New Russia
  8. pts-m
    pts-m 8 January 2016 11: 57 New
    +3
    all this is good. but if this technical device falls into the hands of the enemy, then there should be something on this technical device that leads to the futility of its use.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 January 2016 12: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: PTS-m
      That should be on this technical device that leads to uselessness of its application.

      And the explosive package will be triggered when he hears the English language! wassat
  9. gg.na
    gg.na 8 January 2016 12: 00 New
    0
    Very good development good Well done, our designers are electronic engineers and other developers yes !!! Let our guys have the best quality and at the same time simple and functional! I am very happy!!! yes
  10. APASUS
    APASUS 8 January 2016 12: 01 New
    +2
    One of the reasons why Russia parted with the Mistral helicopter carrier so easily and did not demand further compensation in court is the contracts with the French company Thales. The main thing was not to cause a general complication of relations between the countries. Here it looks like some contacts are beginning to emerge
  11. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 8 January 2016 12: 02 New
    +2
    as I understand it, this is not for mass production, much less for export. These will be small batches of weapons for special tactical groups
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 12: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      ... These will be small batches of samples ...


      So, after all, we need to be ready to win not by numbers, but by a decrease. Reduce the specialists to complete the task of destroying the enemy, exceeding them in number and quantity of equipment ... wink
  12. zerg
    zerg 8 January 2016 12: 09 New
    +5
    Учитывая что у "партнеров" давно есть антиснайперские комплексы определяющие место выстрела по звуку эта разработка актуальна в основном для войн с противником который вообще не в состоянии обнаружить любой дальномер. Но прогресс не может не радовать.
  13. Just BB
    Just BB 8 January 2016 12: 13 New
    +2
    And if on the opposite side there is also a thermal imager?
    Ему как-то "фиолетово" какой у дальномера спектр - тепло от тела снайпера он всё равно увидит
    1. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2016 12: 19 New
      +7
      Цитата: Просто ВВ
      Ему как-то "фиолетово" какой у дальномера спектр - тепло от тела снайпера он всё равно увидит

      А вот тут вы не правы, уже есть способы " не фонить" в ИК диапазоне... Помниться в одном из разрушенных аэропортов, на сопредельной территории, наши "заклятые партнеры" шибко удивлялись этому факту...
      1. Just BB
        Just BB 8 January 2016 12: 34 New
        +2
        "Сомневаюсь я, однако"
        Нормальный тепловизор "влегкую "очучает" 0,1С будь-то жара или холод. У "ночника" с эти проблемы. Да и вдаль смотреть ему ещё и "подсветить" нужно.
        Let the second number deal with the range finder - and solve the trigonometric problem on the ground!
        smile Nothing to spend on money in dvoeshnikami
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 8 January 2016 12: 54 New
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Помниться в одном из разрушенных аэропортов, на сопредельной территории, наши "заклятые партнеры" шибко удивлялись этому факту..

        Oh, how! what Про ВССК "Выхлоп" в степях Новороссии слухи в сети ходили,которая якобы неплохо шкурки бандеровцам из ПС попортила,а вот про защиту от тепловизоров первый раз слышу.Приветствую,Сергей! hi

        Yes, and they also wrote that allegedly the Kiev mercenaries used foiled capes that helped to escape from the thermal imager.
        I think something like that.
  14. Sorokin
    Sorokin 8 January 2016 12: 16 New
    +5
    GOOD OF COURSE. But lie in a snowdrift. Not SVD with small caliber. And lay. And in Fergana 45 lay. Sand to your mom.
  15. yuriy55
    yuriy55 8 January 2016 12: 16 New
    +4
    Interestingly, is it possible to produce an anti-sniper complex based on an easily armored car (conveyor)? Where will the detection and destruction of enemy snipers be carried out automatically? He arrived, put him on duty in the area and was calm ... The practicality of such a machine is undeniable, and the possible detection and destruction range is much higher in comparison with a live sniper ... what
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 8 January 2016 12: 47 New
      +6
      Our laser portable complex was developed about fifteen years ago. It scans the territory at low power, and when it receives a reflection, it hits large. Optics kerdyk, sniper or observer, how unlucky ... I don’t know if this came to the troops ...
      1. Svateev
        Svateev 8 January 2016 19: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: alex-cn
        scans the territory, and getting a glare

        Against a competent and equipped opponent, he will not have time to get a glimpse, because he glows like a Christmas tree (scans) and a sniper with a thermal imager will control this scanner before the scanner can find a sniper.
  16. Hey
    Hey 8 January 2016 12: 53 New
    +2
    Another interesting information on this company and its developments in the military field.

    С помощью новейшего дальномера и вывода координат цели по радиоканалу снайпер сможет навести на цель артиллерию и даже авиацию, заявил генеральный директор компании ТПК "Аргус-НВ".


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160108/1356322710.html#ixzz3wdoU7Mv1
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 8 January 2016 14: 45 New
      +2
      Пора этому "дирехтуру" переписывать учебники по тактике wassat
  17. minus
    minus 8 January 2016 14: 03 New
    +2
    Again advertising this company ???? Any wavelength can be detected ... Moreover, it is possible to detect even passive optical devices, by reflection from the optics ...
  18. minus
    minus 8 January 2016 14: 06 New
    +2
    We started to spin the company ... Another cut ...
  19. Professor
    Professor 8 January 2016 16: 23 New
    +9
    They will work at such a wavelength that does not allow to detect the position of the shooter

    Yeah, I believe. At such a wavelength which is not in nature, since the entire spectrum existing in nature is detected at a time. fellow

    PS
    For example, this one photo detector the electromagnetic radiation detector detects a spectrum of 10 MHz - 18 GHz.
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 8 January 2016 17: 50 New
      +3
      I welcome you, Oleg, sincerely glad to see you at VO, with a return! hi
    2. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 8 January 2016 18: 35 New
      +2
      Hello professor. Thank you for the advertising made in usa. Only here the readers of the site have no real opportunity to verify the correctness of your words. But here's more to their manufacturers.
      Although the arms race will never end. Only real combat operations will show the effectiveness of new developments.
      And an important role is played against whom the new development applies ... Against camel drivers or a high-tech enemy.

      from last year ... October 27, 2015 15:51

      Quote: Barkhan
      It will come back, it seems to me. Nostalgia is a great power! Emotions must be dumped somewhere. You don’t want it to burst forth from bursting emotions somewhere.
      Deja vu does not leave me. Old-timers remind me, please, if he has already left this site ... I remember something ... although I could be wrong.
      1. Professor
        Professor 8 January 2016 18: 44 New
        +3
        Quote: Barkhan
        Hello professor

        hi
        Quote: Barkhan
        Thank you for the advertising made in usa. Only there is no real opportunity for the readers of the site to verify the correctness of your words. But here's more to their manufacturers.

        In the 1990s, I worked with these photo detectors. Now they are not HP, but Agilent. Tell me the wavelength and I will show you a photo detector capable of detecting it. Moreover, these detectors are worth a penny.

        Quote: Barkhan
        Deja vu does not leave me. Old-timers remind me, please, if he has already left this site ... I remember something ... although I could be wrong.

        I am a free man in a free country. I want to leave, I want to come back.

        PS
        But their manufacturers believe more.

        Your produced EMNIP do not produce this. Buy either bourgeois or Chinese. request
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 8 January 2016 22: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          I am a free man in a free country. I want to leave, I want to come back.


          Yes, to health. Personally, I’m only for it. Everything will not be so boring. Here is still atalef somewhere celebrated ... drinks

          Professor, admit ... only honestly ... Have you listened to Putin on New Year's Eve? And how are the Israeli gardens ... blooming? wink
          1. Professor
            Professor 9 January 2016 07: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: Barkhan
            Professor, admit ... only honestly ... listened to Putin on New Year's Eve?

            I do not watch Russian channels.


            Quote: Barkhan
            And how are the Israeli gardens ... blooming?

            Great. 37 mm of rain fell at my place yesterday. The garden will bloom even more beautiful.
    3. Weyland
      Weyland 8 January 2016 18: 51 New
      -2
      Quote: Professor
      the whole spectrum existing in nature is detected at a time.


      Да, но можно выбрать диапазон, в котором "белый шум" от окружающей среды будет на порядок сильнее самогО сигнала! tongue
      1. Professor
        Professor 8 January 2016 18: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: Weyland
        Да, но можно выбрать диапазон, в котором "белый шум" от окружающей среды будет на порядок сильнее самогО сигнала!

        It is possible, but let me ask a stupid question. And how will you distinguish this useful signal from noise if the noise is stronger than the signal? wink
        1. Svateev
          Svateev 8 January 2016 19: 32 New
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          It is possible, but let me ask a stupid question. And how will you distinguish this useful signal from noise if the noise is stronger than the signal?

          There is an even more stupid question: if a useful signal can be extracted from noise in the rangefinder itself, then why this cannot be done in the detector?
        2. atakan
          atakan 9 January 2016 04: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Professor
          And how will you distinguish this useful signal from noise if the noise is stronger than the signal?

          за милисекунду до измерения , програмируется приёмник и излучатель дальномера , с учётом "шума" местности ,то есть ловится отражённый сигнал заранее определённой характеристики , при чём различие должно быть для сторонних приёмников в пределах погрешности
          can it be?
          it means noise can be larger than a software-structured signal.
          True, this is not laser radiation)) Laser radiation sensors are quite simple and cheap, and in nature there is not much radiation comparable to a range finder.
          1. Professor
            Professor 9 January 2016 07: 44 New
            +1
            Quote: atakan
            can it be?

            Can not. The useful signal should be several orders of magnitude stronger than the background. There is no other way. called SNR. Measured in decibels.

            Quote: andj61
            Is this really a photo detector?

            I just want to show that any length of won will populate at a time. hi

            Quote: andj61
            Or I'm wrong?.

            You are not mistaken.
    4. andj61
      andj61 8 January 2016 23: 17 New
      +2
      I welcome you, Oleg!
      Quote: Professor
      For example, this photodetector detects a spectrum of 10 MHz - 18 GHz.

      Is this really a photo detector? what The range of 10 MHz - 18 GHz seems to correspond to something between short and centimeter waves .. what
      3 GHz - 30 GHz - centimeter waves.
      300 MHz - 3 GHz - decimeter waves.
      30 MHz - 300 MHz - meter waves.
      3 MHz - 30 MHz - short waves.

      A photodetector is somewhere near the optical range. Strictly speaking - the optical range plus infrared plus ultraviolet. Or I'm wrong?.
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 9 January 2016 21: 12 New
      +1
      [quote = РїСЂРѕС „ессор]
      Good evening. You are old with us again, very happy!
  20. Pencil
    Pencil 8 January 2016 16: 33 New
    +4
    Все это спекуляции насчет длины волны. "Невидимость" (существенно усложнить обнаружение) дальномера может сделать только малая энергетика излучения. А это - переход военной дальнометрии на пикосекундные зондирующие импульсы, что при той же импульсной мощности позволит уменьшить энергетику импульса. Я в первую очередь имею в виду моноимпульсные дальномеры.
    1. Svateev
      Svateev 8 January 2016 19: 24 New
      +4
      Quote: Pencil
      "Невидимость" (существенно усложнить обнаружение) дальномера может сделать только малая энергетика излучения. А это - переход военной дальнометрии на пикосекундные зондирующие импульсы,

      It is unlikely to help. Or rather: from existing detectors, it may help. But in principle, if it is possible to detect the signal reflected from the target in the range finder itself, then there is no obstacle to making a separate detector of such a signal - just select the receiving path of the range finder in a separate device.
      In addition, there are no obstacles to making a matrix of such microbolometers and obtaining not just a detector (they irradiate me with such a range finder), but a monitoring device (from where exactly they irradiate me with such a range finder).
      Так что эта статья - недобросовестная реклама от "Аргус-НВ" и не более того.
  21. Massik
    Massik 8 January 2016 16: 56 New
    +3
    How much bragging has divorced now, does not count. You can start a lot, but to develop is a completely different issue.
  22. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 8 January 2016 21: 56 New
    +3
    Again commercials misleading non-experts! If a laser range finder is used, then ANYWHERE it will be detected and its location determined! And no new wavelength will help! Against snipers there is now a very large number of technical means, from fixing the sound of a shot to radiation from the retina of the eye through optics. Snipers can now be detected even when he DOES NOT USE the range finder, which emits (or reflected) from the retina through thermal radiation through an OPTICAL SIGHT! Or on lens flare! The article is ABSOLUTELY EMPTY!
  23. Pencil
    Pencil 8 January 2016 22: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Former Combat
    Snipers can now be detected even when he DOES NOT USE the range finder, which is emitted from the retina of the eye through thermal radiation through an optical sight! Or on lens flare! The article is ABSOLUTELY EMPTY!

    Here you are mistaken, colleague. The optical radiation of the thermal imaging range is actively absorbed by the glass. Therefore, what is located behind the glass, behind the glass (not germanium) lens, will not be available when viewed through a thermal imager. There are no germanium lenses in the target channel of the quantum rangefinder.
    And from the outside, it is simple and possible to detect laser rangefinder radiation by a stray backscattering spot in the space surrounding the laser rangefinder and existing at a distance of up to 80 meters from the rangefinder itself, as was written above using a photodetector with an appropriate aperture of optics. It simply illuminates and scatters its own radiation in aerosols in the space of the hemisphere directly in front of it. Therefore, the low energy of radiation is important, as I wrote above.
  24. Orionvit
    Orionvit 8 January 2016 23: 04 New
    0
    Quote: venaya
    They will work at such a wavelength that does not allow to detect the position of the shooter

    Interestingly, perhaps we are talking about a wavelength of 10 microns (radiation of a physical body at a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius), but the construction of the proposal creates a feeling of a certain incompleteness, a riddle.

    In this case, masked robes have already been invented that completely isolate not only infrared radiation, but also the remaining side components. We are talking about an active system operating in the frequency range not visible to enemy devices.
  25. Pencil
    Pencil 8 January 2016 23: 11 New
    0
    And why on earth are the radiation of quantum rangefinders and optical shielding linked?
    It is about unmasking laser rangefinders with their own radiation.