Russia has begun to develop range findersight sights that will not allow to detect a sniper

The Argus-NV company, which creates infrared sights under the InfraTech brand, began developing range finders that will not allow to detect the sniper’s position, reports RIA News The message of the general director of the enterprise Anton Sofin.

“We have begun to develop rangefinders for more efficient use of thermal imaging and night-time instruments in the dark. They will work at a wavelength that does not allow to detect the position of the arrow ”- said the general director.

Previously, the company reported the successful completion of testing the latest thermal imaging sights for small weapons, "Able to work day and night in severe weather conditions."

According to the head of the company, "the main positive qualities of InfraTech devices are minimum weight and dimensions, durable metal housing with high optical, ergonomic and operational characteristics: long range, long-term operation from one set of batteries, simple and convenient control, high reliability functioning on large-caliber weapons and in difficult climatic conditions ".

Help Agency: "The company" Argus-NV "was established in 1997 year after the reorganization on the basis of one of the first private enterprises in Russia in the field of night technology - NPP" Retron ", founded in 1991 year. All products of the company from concept to embodiment in the metal completely domestic production. "

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[svp67]

Of course, I congratulate our gunsmiths and wish them not to stop, since in the military sphere everything new is aging very quickly, and the soldiers’ life and the country's defense capability directly depend on their development.

[seti]

A very useful invention in military affairs. It can find itself not only for infantry but also for armored vehicles and various aircraft. Yes, most likely later on thermal imagers and rangefinders, emphasis will be made. Why buy them in France when there is domestic and probably no worse quality and cheaper. Not to mention the fact that by giving development to our engineers we load the work of our workers. And we leave money in our country.

[Simon]

It would be nice to test these rangefinders in Syria and bring them to perfection in combat conditions.

[seti]

Most likely they are experiencing a lot in Syria. No wonder our "partners" sound the alarm so. They are quite understandably afraid that we will gain experience there and they would really not want that. There, in addition to the Marine Corps, most likely the GRU Special Forces OG, a sabotage and assault group "about any case", specialists of different directions.
In addition to the direct assistance of the Syrian army, polishing plans, training and the think tank, I am sure of their tasks there is a fad of working out and running the latest weapons systems arriving by air, checking the operation of tactical plans and bringing it all to mind. And keeping the results a secret.

[dr.Bo]

Quote: svp67

Of course, I congratulate our gunsmiths and wish them not to stop, since in the military sphere everything new is aging very quickly, and the soldiers’ life and the country's defense capability directly depend on their development.

I also really want that the time from release to adoption and the appearance in the army was minimal !!

[Haettenschweiler]

Quote: dr.Bo

I also really want that the time from release to adoption and the appearance in the army was minimal !!

- I doubt very much that the troops - regular troops - will receive such toys. Most likely, they will be equipped with parts of the army special forces, and, of course, parts of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

[alex-cn]

A very useful device. I wonder how it will look. Any emitter can be detected. Or will the wavelength be changed so often that there will be no time for notching?

[venaya]

They will work at such a wavelength that does not allow to detect the position of the shooter

Interestingly, perhaps we are talking about a wavelength of 10 microns (radiation of a physical body at a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius), but the construction of the proposal creates a feeling of a certain incompleteness, a riddle.

[lelikas]

Quote: venaya

but constructing a sentence creates a feeling of a certain incompleteness, a riddle.

This is probably not a mystery, but wisdom about a cunning ass and screw, sometimes there is also a labyrinth in the labyrinth. :) There will be a new range finder - new detection devices will do as well - in principle, they are being developed in parallel.

[gg.na]

Quote: lelikas

they are being developed in parallel

So it should be under normal conditions! When doing one, do not forget to do the opposite!

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

venaya2 -in general, the temperature of a living person is 36,6 degrees, and the temperature of 20 degrees is the temperature of the corpse being decomposed. That is, you offer the sniper to carry the corpse with him and shoot from him. It's not even at the person’s temperature, although this value it is also important. it is possible to make a remote complex that allows detecting spectrum changes, say at the moment of a shot by a sniper, or even cricket detectors can detect it by a simple shift when changing position, because the heat from a person, like the sounds from movement or working with weapons, cannot be completely drowned out or masked -for this you have to change many physical quantities.

[Mr shrek]

Yes, here is a neglected case. Anatomy, biology and the Russian language must be learned. So as not to write such nonsense.

[AUL]

Great-grandfather of Zeus
Actually venaya wrote about radiation physical body! This concept is somewhat broader than the human body. So in vain you were crucifying about corpses ...

[LÄRZ]

long work from one set of batteries

All products of the company, from the concept to the embodiment in the metal of fully domestic production. "

So the batteries are ours too? Well, let them embody, "the blind man said, let's see."

[Leprekon]

based on one of the first private enterprises in Russia

In those days, exclusively profitable, promising and high-tech enterprises were privatized. Only the most sought-after popular goods went under the hammer. And to engineering staff, honor and praise.

[The black]

If they say that they are creating, then it means they have already created, have experienced and are introducing without any noise. This is very much in the style of GDP - do not bother about what is not yet.

[gg.na]

Quote: Black

Do not talk about what is not yet.

Correctly! This is what real men do !!! They don’t rub your tongue into the empty, but quietly do the thing, and now when the job is done, you can say! And it is possible to show !!! And our president is a man with a capital letter!

[valokordin]

I think the device will be successful and for testing and use send it to New Russia

[pts-m]

all this is good. but if this technical device falls into the hands of the enemy, then there should be something on this technical device that leads to the futility of its use.

[Sid.74]

Quote: PTS-m

That should be on this technical device that leads to uselessness of its application.

And the explosive package will be triggered when he hears the English language!

[gg.na]

Very good development Well done, our designers are electronic engineers and other developers !!! Let our guys have the best quality and at the same time simple and functional! I am very happy!!!

[APASUS]

One of the reasons why Russia parted with the Mistral helicopter carrier so easily and did not demand further compensation in court is the contracts with the French company Thales. The main thing was not to cause a general complication of relations between the countries. Here it looks like some contacts are beginning to emerge

[AdekvatNICK]

as I understand it, this is not for mass production, much less for export. These will be small batches of weapons for special tactical groups

[yuriy55]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

... These will be small batches of samples ...

So, after all, we need to be ready to win not by numbers, but by a decrease. Reduce the specialists to complete the task of destroying the enemy, exceeding them in number and quantity of equipment ...

[zerg]

Considering that the "partners" have long had anti-sniper systems that determine the location of a shot by sound, this development is relevant mainly for wars with an enemy who is generally unable to detect any range finder. But progress is good news.

[Just BB]

And if on the opposite side there is also a thermal imager?
He somehow "purple" what a rangefinder spectrum - he will still see the heat from the sniper's body

[svp67]

Quote: Just BB

He somehow "purple" what a rangefinder spectrum - he will still see the heat from the sniper's body

And here you are wrong, there are already ways to "not fade" in the IR range ... I remember at one of the destroyed airports, on the adjacent territory, our "sworn partners" were very surprised at this fact ...

[Just BB]

"I doubt it, however"
A normal thermal imager "lightly" shoots up "0,1C, be it hot or cold. The" night light "has these problems. And it also needs to" highlight "into the distance.
Let the second number deal with the range finder - and solve the trigonometric problem on the ground!
Nothing to spend on money in dvoeshnikami

[Sid.74]

Quote: svp67

I remember at one of the destroyed airports, on the adjacent territory, our "sworn partners" were very surprised by this fact ..

Oh, how! About the VSSK "Exhaust" in the steppes of Novorossiya there were rumors in the network, which supposedly spoiled the skins of the Bandera people from the SS, but I hear about protection from thermal imagers for the first time. Greetings, Sergey!

Yes, and they also wrote that allegedly the Kiev mercenaries used foiled capes that helped to escape from the thermal imager.
I think something like that.

[Sorokin]

GOOD OF COURSE. But lie in a snowdrift. Not SVD with small caliber. And lay. And in Fergana 45 lay. Sand to your mom.

[yuriy55]

Interestingly, is it possible to produce an anti-sniper complex based on an easily armored car (conveyor)? Where will the detection and destruction of enemy snipers be carried out automatically? He arrived, put him on duty in the area and was calm ... The practicality of such a machine is undeniable, and the possible detection and destruction range is much higher in comparison with a live sniper ...

[alex-cn]

Our laser portable complex was developed about fifteen years ago. It scans the territory at low power, and when it receives a reflection, it hits large. Optics kerdyk, sniper or observer, how unlucky ... I don’t know if this came to the troops ...

[Svateev]

Quote: alex-cn

scans the territory, and getting a glare

Against a competent and equipped opponent, he will not have time to get a glimpse, because he glows like a Christmas tree (scans) and a sniper with a thermal imager will control this scanner before the scanner can find a sniper.

[Hey]

Another interesting information on this company and its developments in the military field.

With the help of the latest rangefinder and the output of the target coordinates by radio channel, the sniper will be able to direct artillery and even aircraft to the target, said the general director of the TPK Argus-NV company.


РИА Новости http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20160108/1356322710.html#ixzz3wdoU7Mv1

[Just BB]

It's time for this "directorship" to rewrite textbooks on tactics

[minus]

Again advertising this company ???? Any wavelength can be detected ... Moreover, it is possible to detect even passive optical devices, by reflection from the optics ...

[minus]

We started to spin the company ... Another cut ...

[Professor]

They will work at such a wavelength that does not allow to detect the position of the shooter

Yeah, I believe. At such a wavelength which is not in nature, since the entire spectrum existing in nature is detected at a time.

PS
For example, this one photo detector the electromagnetic radiation detector detects a spectrum of 10 MHz - 18 GHz.

[Dym71]

I welcome you, Oleg, sincerely glad to see you at VO, with a return!

[BARKHAN]

Hello professor. Thank you for the advertising made in usa. Only here the readers of the site have no real opportunity to verify the correctness of your words. But here's more to their manufacturers.
Although the arms race will never end. Only real combat operations will show the effectiveness of new developments.
And an important role is played against whom the new development applies ... Against camel drivers or a high-tech enemy.

from last year ... October 27, 2015 15:51

Quote: Barkhan

It will come back, it seems to me. Nostalgia is a great power! Emotions must be dumped somewhere. You don’t want it to burst forth from bursting emotions somewhere.
Deja vu does not leave me. Old-timers remind me, please, if he has already left this site ... I remember something ... although I could be wrong.

[Professor]

Quote: Barkhan

Hello professor

Quote: Barkhan

Thank you for the advertising made in usa. Only there is no real opportunity for the readers of the site to verify the correctness of your words. But here's more to their manufacturers.

In the 1990s, I worked with these photo detectors. Now they are not HP, but Agilent. Tell me the wavelength and I will show you a photo detector capable of detecting it. Moreover, these detectors are worth a penny.

Quote: Barkhan

Deja vu does not leave me. Old-timers remind me, please, if he has already left this site ... I remember something ... although I could be wrong.

I am a free man in a free country. I want to leave, I want to come back.

PS

But their manufacturers believe more.

Your produced EMNIP do not produce this. Buy either bourgeois or Chinese.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: professor

I am a free man in a free country. I want to leave, I want to come back.

Yes, to health. Personally, I’m only for it. Everything will not be so boring. Here is still atalef somewhere celebrated ...

Professor, admit ... only honestly ... Have you listened to Putin on New Year's Eve? And how are the Israeli gardens ... blooming?

[Professor]

Quote: Barkhan

Professor, admit ... only honestly ... listened to Putin on New Year's Eve?

I do not watch Russian channels.

Quote: Barkhan

And how are the Israeli gardens ... blooming?

Great. 37 mm of rain fell at my place yesterday. The garden will bloom even more beautiful.

[Weyland]

Quote: professor

the whole spectrum existing in nature is detected at a time.

Yes, but you can choose a range in which the "white noise" from the environment will be an order of magnitude stronger than the signal itself!

[Professor]

Quote: Weyland

Yes, but you can choose a range in which the "white noise" from the environment will be an order of magnitude stronger than the signal itself!

It is possible, but let me ask a stupid question. And how will you distinguish this useful signal from noise if the noise is stronger than the signal?

[Svateev]

Quote: professor

It is possible, but let me ask a stupid question. And how will you distinguish this useful signal from noise if the noise is stronger than the signal?

There is an even more stupid question: if a useful signal can be extracted from noise in the rangefinder itself, then why this cannot be done in the detector?

[atakan]

Quote: professor

And how will you distinguish this useful signal from noise if the noise is stronger than the signal?

a millisecond before measurement, the receiver and the emitter of the rangefinder are programmed, taking into account the "noise" of the terrain, that is, the reflected signal of a predetermined characteristic is caught, and the difference should be within the margin of error for third-party receivers
can it be?
it means noise can be larger than a software-structured signal.
True, this is not laser radiation)) Laser radiation sensors are quite simple and cheap, and in nature there is not much radiation comparable to a range finder.

[Professor]

Quote: atakan

can it be?

Can not. The useful signal should be several orders of magnitude stronger than the background. There is no other way. called SNR. Measured in decibels.

Quote: andj61

Is this really a photo detector?

I just want to show that any length of won will populate at a time.

Quote: andj61

Or I'm wrong?.

You are not mistaken.

[andj61]

I welcome you, Oleg!

Quote: professor

For example, this photodetector detects a spectrum of 10 MHz - 18 GHz.

Is this really a photo detector? The range of 10 MHz - 18 GHz seems to correspond to something between short and centimeter waves ..

3 GHz - 30 GHz - centimeter waves.
300 MHz - 3 GHz - decimeter waves.
30 MHz - 300 MHz - meter waves.
3 MHz - 30 MHz - short waves.

A photodetector is somewhere near the optical range. Strictly speaking - the optical range plus infrared plus ultraviolet. Or I'm wrong?.

[APASUS]

[quote = РїСЂРѕС „ессор]
Good evening. You are old with us again, very happy!

[Pencil]

All this is speculation about wavelength. "Invisibility" (significantly complicate the detection) of the rangefinder can only be done with a low energy of radiation. And this is the transition of military ranging to picosecond sounding pulses, which at the same pulse power will reduce the pulse energy. First of all I mean monopulse rangefinders.

[Svateev]

Quote: Pencil

"Invisibility" (significantly complicate the detection) of the rangefinder can only be done with a low energy of radiation. And this is the transition of military ranging to picosecond sounding pulses,

It is unlikely to help. Or rather: from existing detectors, it may help. But in principle, if it is possible to detect the signal reflected from the target in the range finder itself, then there is no obstacle to making a separate detector of such a signal - just select the receiving path of the range finder in a separate device.
In addition, there are no obstacles to making a matrix of such microbolometers and obtaining not just a detector (they irradiate me with such a range finder), but a monitoring device (from where exactly they irradiate me with such a range finder).
So this article is an unfair advertisement from "Argus-NV" and nothing more.

[Massik]

How much bragging has divorced now, does not count. You can start a lot, but to develop is a completely different issue.

[Former battalion commander]

Again commercials misleading non-experts! If a laser range finder is used, then ANYWHERE it will be detected and its location determined! And no new wavelength will help! Against snipers there is now a very large number of technical means, from fixing the sound of a shot to radiation from the retina of the eye through optics. Snipers can now be detected even when he DOES NOT USE the range finder, which emits (or reflected) from the retina through thermal radiation through an OPTICAL SIGHT! Or on lens flare! The article is ABSOLUTELY EMPTY!

[Pencil]

Quote: Former Combat

Snipers can now be detected even when he DOES NOT USE the range finder, which is emitted from the retina of the eye through thermal radiation through an optical sight! Or on lens flare! The article is ABSOLUTELY EMPTY!

Here you are mistaken, colleague. The optical radiation of the thermal imaging range is actively absorbed by the glass. Therefore, what is located behind the glass, behind the glass (not germanium) lens, will not be available when viewed through a thermal imager. There are no germanium lenses in the target channel of the quantum rangefinder.
And from the outside, it is simple and possible to detect laser rangefinder radiation by a stray backscattering spot in the space surrounding the laser rangefinder and existing at a distance of up to 80 meters from the rangefinder itself, as was written above using a photodetector with an appropriate aperture of optics. It simply illuminates and scatters its own radiation in aerosols in the space of the hemisphere directly in front of it. Therefore, the low energy of radiation is important, as I wrote above.

[Orionvit]

Quote: venaya

They will work at such a wavelength that does not allow to detect the position of the shooter

Interestingly, perhaps we are talking about a wavelength of 10 microns (radiation of a physical body at a temperature of 20 degrees Celsius), but the construction of the proposal creates a feeling of a certain incompleteness, a riddle.

In this case, masked robes have already been invented that completely isolate not only infrared radiation, but also the remaining side components. We are talking about an active system operating in the frequency range not visible to enemy devices.

[Pencil]

And why on earth are the radiation of quantum rangefinders and optical shielding linked?
It is about unmasking laser rangefinders with their own radiation.