On the prospects for the development of the Fourth World War

The global financial and economic crisis led to a new world war. This was announced in 2014 by Pope Francis. In many ways, the current crisis is similar to the 1929-1933 crisis, which led to the outbreak of the Second World War.

Indeed, much in these two world crises has similar features. However, there is a fundamental difference - the crisis of 1929-1933 was generated by the contradictions of the capitalist system, but did not kill it, but led to a new round of development. The weaker capitalist predators - Italy, Germany and Japan, were defeated and became victims, fell into a dependent position. France finally dropped out of the leaders of the Great Game. The British Empire ceded leadership to a younger predator - the United States. In addition, the USSR (Russian civilization) and the country of the socialist bloc still remained.

The crisis of the end of the XX - the beginning of the XXI century. - systemic and marks the crisis and the end of capitalism as a system. The old world has come to an end. Capitalism, after the collapse of the USSR and the social block, after a short pause associated with the plundering and development of new territories, has nowhere to expand. The "land" is over. The process of "self-digestion" began, the elimination of the periphery of capitalism with its dropping into the archaic, with the simultaneous restructuring of the core system.

Moreover, the systemic crisis was born not only by internal contradictions, “boils” of the capitalist system, but by the conscious actions of the masters of the West (the western project, Western civilization). Supranational top of the world capitalist class-a few hundred clans t. “The world behind the scenes, deliberately dismantling capitalism in their own interests. It is going to be dismantled in order to preserve power, privileges and wealth. As in the past, dismantled feudalism.

The future new world order, in their plans, is a non-slave civilization. The world where the highest technologies will be combined (like the technology of "immortality" - extending the life of the "chosen" for 150-200 years, in perspective and more), the world of the archaic - primitive tribes, ethnographic villages, the natural community living "Princes", large feudal lords who have private "squads" - military companies and their own "meadows". By the way, many computer games already teach young people to this world.

A world where there will be a small caste of "gods" with the latest technology, with small layers of staff - from warriors to slave concubines. All the rest will be slaves, “two-legged tools”, and their number is planned to be significantly reduced, so as not to use resources and pollute nature.

In fact, this is the "reset of the Matrix." Moreover, it is not limited only to socio-political, financial and economic relations. The current global systemic crisis, according to Fursov, is a “matryoshka crisis”. Other most forward-thinking analysts say the same thing. Capitalism, created in the West, and based on an unjust, immoral and parasitic concept (in the conceptual basis of Christianity - satanic), exploits and parasitizes not only on man, but on nature itself (Mother Earth). Capitalism (Western civilization), which completely subjugated almost all of humanity, except for extremely small and wild communities isolated from the rest of humanity, located in hard-to-reach places, forced people to live according to the principles “every man for himself”, “live once”, “after us at least the flood ”,“ take everything from life ”, etc. Having included the biosphere as a whole in its economic processes, capitalism brought it into a state of global environmental, and humanity into a state of resource crisis. It is simply not possible to consume as it is consumed in Europe and the USA, and the whole world strives towards these standards. Resources are limited, and the entire planet is rapidly turning into a waste dump.

Thus, the crisis of capitalism coincides with the global biosphere-ecological one. These two crises caused the crisis of the man himself, his involution. First time in stories development of the present humanity has stopped, and the halt of progress automatically caused a simplification. We see on the streets millions of “new barbarians”, both from the backward countries and regions of the third world, and “internal”, which were generated by the degrading system of education and upbringing and the media, working to debilize a person.

In addition, several smaller crises can be identified, but also affecting all of humanity:

- This is a crisis of Western civilization, which is rapidly degrading and poisoning all of humanity with its poisons. So, only the United States with a population of about 5% of the world's consume 40-50% of all global resources. Taking most of the resources from humanity, this country gives little to him in return (except for dollar waste paper), moreover, leaving a dead nature, poisoned rivers and air. One third of the world's environmental pollution is caused by the United States. Every American today consumes for eight inhabitants of the Earth. And the so-called “golden billion” consumes 80% of world resources. The rest of humanity, i.e. Latin America, Africa and Asia - 20%.

At the same time, a huge part of the “golden billion” is drones, a parasitic mass. For example, in the US, about 40% of the population aged 16 and above do not work. 30% Americans and 50% Americans do not go to work. More than 10% of working-age population work part time. There is a multi-million layer of people (about 5% of the working-age population), which can be called militant parasites. These people do not work anywhere, despise any work and live on various allowances and food stamps received from the state. Thus, as a whole, half of the US population either does not work at all, or does little work. There are many examples of degradation of the West.

In this case, the American way of life is broadcast to the whole world. And millions of Arabs, Africans, Hispanics, Asians, also dream of joining this freebie. What has become one of the leading prerequisites for the new Great Migration of Peoples. It is clear that the American and European elite have recently led an offensive against the middle class and the parasites, their level of consumption has seriously subsided. In the States themselves there is the possibility of starting a civil war, a “black war” (appearances of racial and minorities, dissatisfied with a fall in the level of consumption). A part of the American elite, by all appearances, deliberately provokes a great confusion in the USA itself, in order to introduce a military dictatorship and “tighten the screws” in full.

However, the crisis of Western civilization is poisoning the whole world around: this is also the course of the masters of the West to start a big war in Eurasia, which “will write off everything”; this is the destabilization of several countries in Africa and the Middle East - Libya, Mali, Sudan, Iraq, Syria, Yemen; it is the imposition of Western values ​​and consumer model, which ultimately leads to a degeneration of the spiritual, intellectual and physical nature of man; provoking a migration crisis; and financial and economic parasitism and much more.

- This is a crisis of Christianity and Islam in their most diverse aspects. In fact, this is a crisis of the biblical project. In Islam, a project of "black Islam" was created, which, following the example of Hitler's Nazism, unleashed a world war - the Middle Eastern Front of the Fourth World War. “Caliphate”, being the instrument of the owners of the Western project and their clients - the Arab monarchies and Turkey, spreads its metastases to North and Central Africa, to the Balkans and Europe as a whole, to Central and Central Asia, to the Caucasus.

Islam is associated with the wildest archaic, violence and mass killings (genocide). After the defeat of the project “Caliphate”, Islam and Islamic civilization will be discredited, the Koran is put on the same level as Hitler’s “Mein Kampf”. The territory of Islamic civilization is transformed into the main battlefield of the world war, which should lead to the most severe losses of the Muslim population (reduction of human biomass is one of the main goals of the owners of the Western project) and strengthening of the migration crisis. Resources of the countries of the Islamic world will be completely subordinated to TNCs and TNB. Moreover, all the current leaders of the Islamic world — Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Egypt, Iran — were sentenced to dismemberment into “free” state formations of a non-slave, neo-feudal, tribal territory. Following the example of modern Libya or Somalia. Iraq, Yemen and Syria have almost completed this journey. In essence, these are inferno zones, where the overwhelming majority of the population is thrown into the abyss of poverty, permanent war, archaics (such as the revival of slave-owning markets) have become black market centers. weapons, drugs, artifacts and sales of people into slavery (or parts thereof).

Pope Francis recently declared about the beginning of the Third World War and on the eve of Christmas, he admitted that he did not experience the usual awe, and called the holiday itself senseless bustle and farce in a war in which the whole world was immersed. “All this is meaningless fuss. The world did not understand how to live in harmony. The whole world is in a state of war ... ruins, thousands of uneducated children, many innocent victims and money in the pockets of arms dealers, ”stated the Pope. The words of the head of the Catholic world should be taken seriously. This world includes more than 1 billion people. The Vatican has enormous political influence and large financial resources, and also controls the picture of the world of hundreds of millions of people. For centuries, the Vatican has controlled the chronology and history of Europe, clearing unnecessary facts. In the world there are dozens of Catholic orders, acting across the globe and with almost military discipline. They are very influential people. All these orders are subject to the Vatican. Throughout history, Rome was the leading center of Western civilization, only recently giving way to London and Washington. However, even now Rome is an important part of the “brain” (KP) of Western civilization and in Rome threads of world politics are intertwined in a cunning manner.

Currently, the Vatican ascertained the crisis of Christianity. Christianity can no longer control people, as many centuries. In the West, the post-Christian world, where the “golden calf” dominates, has already been created de facto. And Rome now acts as a leader in creating a single global religious concept. The Vatican has already announced ecumenical openness, that is, dialogue with other religions. However, other religions should recognize the dominant role of the Pope, while maintaining the autonomy of his teaching. In the near future they plan to sign an agreement, which should declare a split between Catholics and Protestants to be nonexistent. At the same time there is a process of absorption of the territory of the Orthodox Church. The idea is pushed through the patriarch of Constantinople (he is considered ecumenical, that is, the head of all Orthodoxy). In the 2016 year it is planned to assemble the Pan-Orthodox Council. Apparently, it is planned to finally recognize the leading role of the patriarch of Constantinople and create a universal Orthodox synod, which will conduct an ecumenical dialogue. And there it is not far to the recognition of Orthodoxy of the leading role of the Pope, his moral authority. At the same time, the Vatican conducts a dialogue with the followers of Confucianism, Buddhists and Muslims. Create a religious basis for a new global order. All religions plan to merge into a single "bottle", which will justify the non-slave, caste New World Order.

- The crisis of the white race, whose very existence is endangered. The number of whites in the modern world is rapidly decreasing. Firstly, it is connected with the project of the owners of the West to create a world "melting pot" (Babylon), which leads to the creation of a "gray man". This person is completely atomized, that is, devoid of traditional ties, family, homeland, nation, race, national culture. They create a “two-legged weapon” in the framework of the “electronic concentration camp” of the New World Order. Secondly, American culture (pop culture) leads to the complete corruption of a person, his debilization, spiritual, intellectual and physical degradation. The white race, the former creative generator of all mankind, is rapidly degrading and dying out. As a result, this leads to the degradation and involution of all mankind. Thirdly, the expansion of capitalism, Western civilization, caused a population explosion in the South and a massive migration of its inhabitants to the North, which leads to the rapid assimilation of whites and the loss of the possibility of restoring their positions in the world.

Reload matrix

It is clear that the supranational elite of the world capitalist class consists of very clever people. They all see it perfectly and are working to create a new world. Theoretically, humanity can have two leading options for the future (with some variations of the leading project).

The first is the path of a high-tech civilization of the type described by Ivan Efremov in the Andromeda Nebula. Its foundation is social justice. This civilization is based on the concepts of love, truth and conscience. Humanity is going through the creation of a society of creation and service, ethics of conscience prevails. Russia already has experience in building such a society — this is a project of Stalin’s USSR. That is, the only way to save all of humanity is the domination of a just (moral) concept. The salvation of modern Russia in the transformation in “Grad Kitezh” (“Light Russia”, “USSR-2”). Thus, the Russian civilization carries in itself a core, an idea that can save all of humanity.

The second is caste, neo-feudal, and neo-slaveholding society. The global "Babylon", where islands of supernova technologies (technology of "immortality", terminator soldiers, military Drones, which will simultaneously operate in the air and space environment, and many others. other) will coexist with the world of neo-archaic, neo-slave and neo-feudal structures. This is a world where there will be "gods" and "two-legged weapons", with a suppressed will and mind, addicted to intoxicants (including electronic ones). At present, the masters of the West are building precisely this world.

To be continued ...

Comments

[Igor39]

"This is a project of the Stalinist USSR" Here, explain to me not literate, when people lived well in the Stalinist USSR, in the 20s, when the war continued and devastation and hunger reigned everywhere, in the 30s, when there was collectivization, there was famine and repression, in the 40s, when they fought for five years and then began to heal their wounds and prepare for a new war, and the country lay in ruins and hunger was like something natural?

[Corporal Valera]

Quote: Igor39

Here explain to me not literate, when in the Stalinist USSR they lived well,

How "good" is not always determined by the depth of the pelvis filling. In addition to the belly, a person also has other, no less important, organs. Stalin's society is a society of creators, a society of spiritual, intellectual and physical development of a person, a society of high moral values. As for the war, this is not how we organized it. I don't even have enough imagination to imagine what place the USSR would have in the world if it were not for the war

[Igor39]

Destroyed architectural monuments, blocked Mayakovsky, Yesenin, hunted Bulgakov, Akhmatova, Pasternak, Mandelstam, Vavilov shot, very intellectually developed.

[avva2012]

And, you were not interested in how many monuments in the Kremlin were destroyed during its perestroika in tsarist Russia? Do you think this is the know-how of the Bolsheviks? Ask how Vavilov himself wrote denunciations against his own colleagues. There is information in the public domain. Mayakovsky and Yesenin are generally liberal fantasies. Mayakovsky was a man with an unusual character, to put it mildly. Even his brain was different from that of most people. I don't even want to talk about the rest of the "masters of thoughts" Repression. A separate topic. They would open archives on the cases of the repressed, that would be yes. Apparently, the authorities pity the psyche of citizens. Many of the "repressed for nothing" have descendants. Of course, it is foolish to deny that the innocent did not fall under the wheel, but one hundred million, this is Solzhenitsin's nonsense.

[Cap.Morgan]

In short, all whom Stalin shot are bastards.
The only misfortune is that many of these reptiles at first themselves stood in power and were close to Himself. And moreover, they stood at the Origins. Present at the Aurora shot. And then someone ice ax on the head, who is 10 years old without the right to correspondence.
Now the red-brown are trying to imagine the camp order as a panacea for all ills.

[Darkness]

Stalin personally shot?

[Tatyana]

I have the impression that some forum users have historically been “stuck” in their worldview at the level of liberalized ideas propagated since the time of the Gorbachev “perestroika” of the USSR and Yeltsin’s reforms in Russia. What is causing them, I find it difficult to say.

However, it should be noted that these polemists when assessing the Soviet system, they do not take into account that the CPSU (b) after Lenin’s death, in fact, consisted of 2 parties — the “party” of Trotsky and the “party” of Stalin. And these parties had completely different - directly opposite - tasks. Trotsky's party was supposed to surrender Soviet Russia under the external control of the Anglo-Saxons and French, and the Stalin party fought for the sovereignty of the country. Hence the internal party feuds and the internal political struggle in the country.
The bourgeois liberals of the perestroika period of the USSR / Russia reduced all the replenishment of the Soviet period only to the so-called "Stalinist repression" and "sausage for the people."
In this regard, to understand the essence of this problem, I advise you to read a new book by Nikolai Starikov, “Who made Hitler attack Stalin” - St. Petersburg: Peter, 2015. - 368 c .: ill. Everything is explained in great detail there.
I would give the State Prize to N. Starikov for this book. A worthy thing.

[Igor39]

During the second half of 1937 and 1938, the following members of the Soviet government were arrested, who had never participated in any anti-Stalinist opposition.

People's Commissars:

heavy industry - Mezhlauk;

finance - Grinko;

agriculture - successively Chernov and Yakovlev;

trade - Weiser;

communications - Halepsky;

military industry - Rukhimovich;

Justice - Krylenko;

state farms - Kalmanovich;

Enlightenment - Bubnov;

Water transport - Janson.

Chairmen of the All-Union Central Executive Committee (All-Union Central Executive Committee) - successively Yenukidze, Akulov and Unshlikht;

Chairman of the Board of the State Bank - Maryasin;

Deputy Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars - Antipov;

Deputy People's Commissar of Heavy Industry - Serebrovsky;

Deputy Commissar of Foreign Trade - Eliava;

Politburo members are Kosior and Rudzutak.
But in the basements of the NKVD, everyone admitted that they worked for British intelligence.

[avva2012]

Kosior- this, he, is still a sufferer! Without him, as if the war was not won. Read about him and others. Now everything is freely available. Yes, and in the transcripts of the courts, there is still not only "work for British intelligence", but also "moral decay", "damage to state property", "waste". And, so, then, yes, they are all "Victims of bloody Stalin." Moreover, innocent, like a brothel worker with ten years of experience.

[rvRomanoff]

In those years, the words of corruption were shy, so they preferred to plant for espionage. But I agree that in the long term, this method of combating corruption has not justified itself.

[Koshak]

"But in the basements of the NKVD, everyone admitted that they worked for British intelligence."

Not surprising ... But the version - the worse than others: there were conspiracies, but against
conscientious workers, conspiracies and denunciations of all * s who sought to make a career at all costs.

[Koshak]

"But in the basements of the NKVD, everyone admitted that they worked for British intelligence."

Not surprising ... But the version - the worse than others: there were conspiracies, but against
conscientious workers, conspiracies and denunciations of all * s who sought to make a career at all costs.

[vladimir_krm]

Yes, yes, and some on the other side of the earth got an ice ax ...
It would be interesting to see how in ... ts many years they will regret the "repressed" rulers Chubais, Nabiulina, etc. :)
Do you think there are liberals just now? No, they were under the king (and the kings complained about them), and under Stalin ...

[Talgat]

The ice ax was correctly taken out. The Trotskyists are just crazy - children to camps, wives to camps, burn the country in the furnace of revolution

And Goloshchekin the bastard from bed at death was lifted and shot both for the tsar and for Kazakhstan - it’s significant - so that everyone knows this enemy

The Stalinist USSR grew up in the crucible of the struggle against the destroyers of the tsarist empire (the Trotskyists had all these brackets, monks, there were many of them) and in the Great Patriotic War

In principle, if not for war - then in 1940-41 everyone says progress has already come - life has improved

After the "break" in 1945, such a start and pace was taken, which we will never achieve later. Life was improving at a tremendous rate. For 20 years the country has changed - compare 45 and 65 years!

Then the breakthrough of Brezhnev-Kosygin - this was also a swift and bright development - later falsely called by the liberals "stagnation". In those years, we built everything on which we all still live - we eat

Stalin is the founder of this beautiful country of the USSR - which could live and live and develop no worse than China - if it were not for Suslovshchina not "about the sire" ideology - as a result, the population was demoralized and pro-Western
and if then, against the background of this, the betrayal of the Gorbachev Yakovlev Shevardnadzev did not happen

[avva2012]

I always suspected that Suslov was much worse than Gorbachev and Yeltsin. With him, it all started. Living in the USSR, it was impossible, in my opinion, at the beginning of the 80s to not understand that ideology works to destroy the country (at least, analyzing the situation now). Will there ever be a full-fledged study of this era, I do not know. But, the fact that after about 75 of the year something happened in the government of the USSR and the processes of self-destruction started, it seems to me, is indisputable.

[the villain]

Quote: vladimir_krm

It would be interesting to see how in ... ts many years they will regret the "repressed" rulers Chubais, Nabiulina, etc. :)

And it would be more interesting for me to see how these characters will be "repressed".

[hartlend]

And read Gregory Klimov. He writes who they are.

[RONIN-HS]

for Igor39 ...

... It turns out that they were arrested "for the 5th column ..."; in the sense that some Jews were arrested.
I can assume that, being at such high posts, at the top of power, they could have incorrectly executed the assigned tasks. Or confuse the state pocket with personal ... IMHO ...

[emercom1979]

I propose to shoot Chubais, Serdyukov and so on. etc. And the descendants will say "terror" and "repression" of the bloody "esbni" (the KGB and NKVD no longer exist.)

[avva2012]

The Origins had Trotsky, Bukharin, and so on. They were actually going to destroy Russia, "use it as firewood to kindle the fire of the world revolution." So that they deserved it with an ice ax on the head and brilliant green on the back of the head. Some of the "associates" in the Civil War performed punitive functions, for example. And such people who have blood on their hands up to the elbows cannot be left in power. The Moor has done his job, the Moor must go. A similar type, after all, more, and does not know how to pour blood. So, those who were at the top were absolutely right under the distribution. There weren't any clean ones.

[rvRomanoff]

Why Stalin acted in this way, and not otherwise, it would be sour to read to A. Zinoviev, who, nevertheless, was a contemporary of those affairs and even began to bang with Stalin’s dream, and ended up understanding, if not justifying it, then understanding it. In the novel Temptation, and not in it alone, he lucidly explained what the phenomenon of the Stalin era was.

[Extraneous]

The destruction of those who participated in the military coup of 1917, the civil war, the sack of Russia - Merit Dzhugashvili.
Restoring the country in a decade and turning it into a powerful industrial power - Merit Dzhugashvili.
Direction of the brains of millions of people who have learned to rob and kill in the first world and civilian - merit Dzhugashvili.

Moans about repressions, gulags and executions are an attempt to give significance to ants that have fallen under the bear's butt. Well, to reinforce your status as a "thinking individual". "The more hayu, the brighter I think"

[avva2012]

I agree with everyone, only some ants were the size of a polar wolf and had teeth like a crocodile.

[Extraneous]

: o) Well, Duc and Bear are not plush.

[gladcu2]

Foreign

Not Dzhugashvili, but Comrade Stalin. Stalin, the name of the state. Dzhugashvili personal name. You can not confuse them. Since, as something that is permitted by Dzhugashvili, Comrade Stalin could not afford.

[Extraneous]

Stalin - party nickname and symbol. Dzhugashvili - surname and person. I prefer in this case to talk about a person, and not about a symbol.

[the villain]

Quote: Cap.Morgan

. And then whom ice ax on the head

Was Leiba Davidovich, the "innocent lamb" unfairly treated? And I think so!!! He got off too easy

[aksakal]

Quote: avva2012

There is information in the public domain. Mayakovsky and Yesenin are generally liberal fantasies. Mayakovsky was a man with an unusual character, to put it mildly. Even his brain was different from that of most people. I don’t want to talk about the rest of the "masters of thoughts"

- Here Zhdanov is condemned for the persecution of the same Akhmatova, nee Gorenko. Duc Zhdanov knew her personally, they were neighbors. I knew how Akhmatova, with her husband, N. Gumilyov, behaved - and this was in patriarchal Russia of those times! For this Zhdanov called her "a sinner with a prayer on her lips." It's amazing how the great scientist, Lev Gumilyov, grew up with those terrible family things. And at the same time, mind you, Akhmatova was only limited in communication with the public, that is, she was printed, during the Second World War she was even evacuated as a creative intelligentsia, but to influence the crowd, the people through creative meetings, through media coverage of her personal life - this is in fact, it was limited in various ways. And rightly so - what could this licentious maiden teach the people, on a personal level? Does he write good poetry? So they printed them, reached the people. How does she live? Here is the question.
It is clear that cultural figures as public figures should be an example for the people. And note, Soviet cultural figures were really highly cultured people, they didn’t get drunk to death in restaurants with a subsequent brawl, and after achieving success, they did not make a noisy divorce from a fighting girlfriend with whom they were moving towards this success, with the removal of all litter from the hut. And generally speaking...
In Soviet times, if a star observed such immoral acts, the very apparatus that turned on very quickly turned on.

Quote: Igor39

hunted Bulgakov, Akhmatova, Pasternak, Mandelstam, Vavilov shot, very intellectually developed

- actually did the right thing. For what example does such a public figure set? A teenager observes the behavior of that Panin, Jr. (certainly an indefatigable artist), who is stealing his daughter and thinks that he needs to behave this way. It is right?
And I think so, again it is necessary to turn on this apparatus to excommunicate creative people from the profession, if they set a bad example in personal behavior. It is not necessary to resurrect Yagoda, Zhdanov or Yezhov, but a moral code of conduct for the "stars" should be developed, and sanctions should be introduced for violating it at a friendly court, which could destroy a career. So do not rush to glue solid cons to the installation of the Stalinist Commissariat for Culture.

[Darkness]

Universal free education and medicine, the development of new technologies, electrification, social justice, equality before the law, the creation of the nuclear shield of the USSR.

[Chiropractor]

Yesenin failed? A man across America with Isadora Duncan (the founder of jazz modernism for a minute) rode around, thumped like crazy, drew inspiration - the person lived a full life! Have you, for example, been to America?
For the rest - about the same topic. Well, maybe except Vavilov. If everything was as bad as you draw, then these people would not have a chance to discover and develop their talent.
And because of the fact that it was as it was - we know these names, their work and spiritually develop on it ..

[avva2012]

Yesenin, a talented man, only loved vodka. Not a sin, no doubt, I myself do not disdain. Well, only his contemporaries described a state of delirium tremens similar to that described. Whether it was repeated, once in a loop climbed. Where is the evidence that his OGPU killed? Yes, and why? Was there an opponent of power? There, a whole ship of nasty ones was released and nothing.

[gladcu2]

Chiropractor

Leave, talk nonsense.
Talent to develop ... Talent to develop this luck is something else ...

And America ... A great country. The author, in the article, clearly went overboard that the Americans for eight are bursting. Infrastructures are developing, it can be. Speaking of performance. The Americans, too, work in sweat. And they can only hold a salary in their hands. So they work for hold.

Well, to develop talent in America. Identity is a huge fortune.

[Gilev georgy]

They just didn’t reach you

[avva2012]

You absolutely rightly said. To understand what was done in the USSR in those years, you just need to compare the statistical indicators of the Republic of Iran and the USSR. Yes, not the amount of pig iron and steel compared to 1913, but the level of education, population, access to medical care. Man, at that time, was much freer than now. Anyone with a penchant for learning could reach the highest peaks. And, this is not an allegation. If you read the biographies of our great military leaders, writers, composers, scientists, then almost all of them, children of peasants and workers. It is unlikely that one of them, if everything would have remained as it is, before the 17 year, would have become someone.

[Cap.Morgan]

I don’t want to think that you really think so.
The construction of the White Sea Canal, for example, is the work of creators. Intellectuals worked with a Kyle and a shovel.
You download magazines of those years. And read, only thoughtfully, discarding the ideological chatter, than our distant ancestor lived.
I still remember the times when the USSR provided international assistance to all tribes fighting the world evil of imperialism. Weapons and gold. That is, he exported revolutions around the world. Only under Stalin it was elevated to the rank of state policy.
War with the whole capitalist world. In a nutshell.

[Darkness]

Forgot to say that the White Sea Canal is built on the bones of a hundred million innocently repressed.
The war on capitalism is right.

[avva2012]

You know, everything is learned by comparison. Naturally, it is a pity for people who fell into the millstones. But, it was not me and you who invented this world. The USSR, it was necessary at that time, to overcome the gigantic lag behind the Western world. Unfortunately, there are no casualties. What country would have been in 1941 if it had not been engaged in economic growth, practically from scratch. You, the house, just leave it closed for a couple of months, what will happen? And in Russia there was a civil war. People not only did not build something, but also actively destroyed what was. And, do you think, there were no robberies, murders, violence, just "purely as a neighbor"? And in the USSR, there were no people left who hated the new government, or did they all emigrate? Accordingly, did the unfortunate men from neighboring villages get to the construction of the White Sea Canal?
Yes, about the men. Who now knows how many men were put in the construction of St. Petersburg? How many died at the Demidov factories of the same time? And, if everything is clear with factories, there were sacrifices so that the country could defend itself, then Peter was needed exactly where he stands, that's the question. And if you look not at our history, but let's say at the English one. The fencing process that led to the English Industrial Revolution. According to some sources, thirty percent of the population was put (hanged, rotted in the mines, etc.).
There is no need to talk about the export of the revolution. The system in the world was colonial. The metropolises were enemies of the USSR. So, a kind of hybrid war. And, by the way, not Stalin was an apologist for the "world revolution", but Trotsky. Stalin said, "we must first strengthen ourselves, and then ...". It would be, it would be later and in what form, we no longer know, the war began. Sincerely.

[vladimir_krm]

"That is, he exported revolutions all over the world."

You are confusing the Stalinist period with the Leninist one. Consciously, I dare to suppose.

[alecsis69]

Under Stalin was the first time! the thesis about building socialism in a single country was accepted, and those who later got an ice ax on the head dreamed of exporting the revolution.

[kugelblitz]

Quote: Igor39

Tell me to the illiterate when they lived well in the Stalinist USSR, in the 20s, when the war continued and devastation and famine reigned everywhere, in the 30s, when collectivization went on, there was hunger and repression, in the 40s, when they fought for five years and then began to heal the wounds and is preparing for a new war, and the country lay in ruins and hunger was like something natural?

Sure, not a problem.
In the 20s they did not live very well due to the consequences of the First World War and the Civil War.
Industrialization was going on in the 30s, and by the way, it was in the late 30s that they began to live quite well, even by modern standards.
In the 40s, Stalin did not start a war, so blame Hitler.
As for the "repressions", I see them as a place in the current situation, since the sect of witnesses to the "cold weather" and "hrantetskoy loaf", to put it mildly "a little" sins, not showing the facts of a "well-fed and rich" people. And the 8-hour working day, vacations, sick leave, and so on were introduced just at those very times, if anything.

[gleb0606]

+ laws regarding workers in the USSR in the 30s were one of the most progressive in the world, the vacation of the Soviet worker, for example, was more than the vacation of English.

[Cap.Morgan]

But the salary was 100 times less.
And you can’t buy anything for hard earned money.

[Darkness]

Everything necessary for human life could be bought without problems.
Excessive consumption is the lot of capitalism.

[gladcu2]

Darkness

Excessive consumption is the consequence of a change in morality. And morality is being changed to justify a system in which 100 super-rich per 1 impoverished people. The moral is oriented towards the propaganda of egoism.

When all 100 live in abundance but within their means, there is no excess consumption and they do not lay morality through the media.

[V.ic]

Quote: Cap.Morgan

And you can’t buy anything for hard earned money.

There were "commercial" shops. However, there was one great mystery: the stores are empty, but the refrigerators are full ...

[Pindermyak]

To get it. As soon as you show the present slave from a machine tool or a cross from a plow, who is able to buy a squadron of aircraft or a tank company, you can bargain about penny earnings in the Stalin era.

[Darkness]

Well, we can add that the only time in the history of Russia, prices have been reduced, wages have risen.
And people saw that they work for the state, i.e. on yourself, not greasy, greedy scum.

[Igor39]

kugelblitz "Industrialization took place in the 30s, and by the way, it was at the end of the 30s that they began to live pretty well, even by modern standards."

Belomorkanal 227 km, built 21 months, laid about 100000 men, not bad, even by that standards.

[Igor39]

Would have plowed there, would have changed their minds

[Darkness]

Ahhhh ...
Another lover of "French rolls".
My ancestors honestly worked in factories and on collective farms, none of them were repressed or convicted. And you write liberal tales that everyone is already tired of.
The anti-Soviet is always Russophobe.

[Igor39]

Am I Russophobe? You dear read Leo Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Saltykov-Shchedrin, Pushkin, Lermontov? Can you name your favorite work of my beloved Leo Tolstoy?

[Darkness]

Many Russophobes read Russian classics. So what?

[pv1005]

Judging by your quotes

Quote: Igor39

Belomorkanal 227 km, built 21 months, laid about 100000 men, not bad, even by that standards.

Your favorite writer is Solzhenitsyn.

[vladimir_krm]

Strider, what? :)

[pv1005]

Quote: Igor39

Would have plowed there, would have changed their minds

Looks like you plowed there a lot, since you don’t change your opinion.

[Igor39]

I did not plow there, but I read and watched in open sources how it was built.

[avva2012]

And who built and for what, read?
Or, you think, this is all propaganda.

[the villain]

Quote: avva2012

avva2012 (2) Yesterday, 09:49 ↑
And who built and for what, read?
Or, you think, this is all propaganda.

I apologize, minus I set you up by accident, the tablet failed

[avva2012]

Once with families go, then most likely fists. If it’s interesting, then read for having evicted the kulaks, the armpits. Where they were evicted, and why they were divided into three categories. And, most interesting, who was the fist in the village! Yes, EBN, was the son of a fist, did you know that?

[Lyubteh]

And what they grabbed, exiled various parasites. And forced to work for the common good. I personally would have introduced this policy now, I can imagine how many whineers and minuses will be from the side of various parasites. Someone will ask how to distinguish a parasite from a parasite, my answer is that I worked for the benefit of Russia and the people. You are creating a level of people's well-being and at the same time you are getting rich yourself, Moldovan. And if you don’t bring any benefit, you live at the expense of others to force it to bring benefits. I think that there will be prosperity in childbirth, there will be prosperity in cities and villages, there will be prosperity in cities and villages, there will be prosperity in a power, there will be prosperity in a power, there will be a power of silina and it will not be defeated.
All a happy holiday.

[tsvetkov1274]

In closed cities, there was such a practice — you don’t work, in my opinion, 3 months — they are evicted from the city !!

[Lyubteh]

And what they grabbed, exiled various parasites. And forced to work for the common good. I personally would have introduced this policy now, I can imagine how many whineers and minuses will be from the side of various parasites. Someone will ask how to distinguish a parasite from a parasite, my answer is that I worked for the benefit of Russia and the people. You are creating a level of people's well-being and at the same time you are getting rich yourself, Moldovan. And if you don’t bring any benefit, you live at the expense of others to force it to bring benefits. I think that there will be prosperity in childbirth, there will be prosperity in cities and villages, there will be prosperity in cities and villages, there will be prosperity in a power, there will be prosperity in a power, there will be a power of silina and it will not be defeated.
All a happy holiday.

[V.ic]

Quote: Igor39

put about 100000 men

Have Solzhenincin been re-read recently?

[Cap.Morgan]

What indicators decently lived then?
Communal apartments - 38 rooms have only one restroom.
There were no consumer goods, due to the production of military equipment in unrealistic quantities. More battleships were going to build. Ocean. And somehow with all the thousands of tanks and planes they gave Hitler thousands of kilometers of territory, starting a war without allies surrounded by enemies.
Industrialization followed the Bolshevik deindustrialization. After the collapse of the 17th year.
Before that, there weren’t even bread cards like in Europe, despite the war.
But the Bolsheviks came and the cards immediately appeared.

[gleb0606]

Deindustrialization and so on is the result of a long civil war (which, by the way, was not started by the Bolsheviks) but before this World War I, and as a result, the economy was subordinated to military needs for a long time, which to put it mildly does not contribute to its development.

[Corporal Valera]

Quote: Cap.Morgan

What indicators decently lived then?
Communal apartments - 38 rooms have only one restroom.

I am embarrassed to ask, but were the living conditions better before the "communal apartments"? Tell us about "sturdy" huts with lots of restrooms.

There were no consumer goods

I cry in my soul! There were no iPhones and HDTV! How did people live? Horror!

And somehow with all the thousands of tanks and planes they gave Hitler thousands of kilometers of territory,

Is it possible to name the territories given to Hitler in the studio? Or are you crookedly speaking? Well, like, we didn’t give up the territory, but the war, nevertheless, started poorly. Then give examples of countries that started the war well and correctly.

Industrialization followed the Bolshevik deindustrialization.

Have you heard anything about VP? About his "wise" laws and decrees? What have the Bolsheviks got to do with it? Was there only one side in the civil war? Did the Bolsheviks destroy their own industry? Masochists, however!

But the Bolsheviks came and the cards immediately appeared.

Then your colleague-de-Stalinizer said that he respected Tolstoy as much as he could, read classic! What does he write about times without cards? Before the Bolsheviks there were not only cards, but there was no bread, in fact.

[pv1005]

Quote: Cap.Morgan

What indicators decently lived then?
Communal apartments - 38 rooms have only one restroom.
There were no consumer goods, due to the production of military equipment in unrealistic quantities. More battleships were going to build. Ocean. And somehow with all the thousands of tanks and planes they gave Hitler thousands of kilometers of territory, starting a war without allies surrounded by enemies.
Industrialization followed the Bolshevik deindustrialization. After the collapse of the 17th year.
Before that, there weren’t even bread cards like in Europe, despite the war.
But the Bolsheviks came and the cards immediately appeared.

And in what country of that time the common people lived much better, in separate five-room mansions with three restrooms, do not tell me? Could it be Germany or France or England? Was it Ethiopia or any other country known only to you?

[V.ic]

Quote: Cap.Morgan

Communal apartments - 38 rooms have only one restroom.

Plagiarism, sir! Why V.S. Do you indicate Vysotsky in co-authors?

[Zuborez]

Quote: Cap.Morgan

Before that, there weren’t even bread cards like in Europe, despite the war.
But the Bolsheviks came and the cards immediately appeared.

It seems that due to the lack of cards, tsarism had to invent an extra surplus (crunches a French bun )

[tokens3]

It seems that due to the lack of cards, tsarism had to invent an extra surplus (crunches a French bun

not to tsarism. And to the generals of the overthrown king. As they say, feel the difference.
Yes, even that surplus appropriation was compared to collectivization, a sort of check "who is at home?" - like the issuance of pensions and gas supply today.
But collectivization ... Yes, and with real large-scale military operations involving the army ...
Yes, there was no such thing anywhere! Not in any country! This was only with the prefix-civil war and riots.
So. Collectivization was, in fact, a hidden civil war! By the way, little is reflected in the history of modern Russia. And in fact, Stalin unleashed this war. For what purposes this is of course another question. And what kind of environment the leader himself was in is also not worth it forget.

[evgmiz]

That's just what liberals have made a beautiful life - you count peanuts for bread from retirement to retirement, and even communal apartments don't even shine on children and grandchildren, even in the long run, but some civil servants get a salary of a million or more rubles a day!

[Stanislas]

Quote: Igor39

when they lived well in the Stalinist USSR, in the 20s, when the war continued

The 20s were not yet Stalinist. In the 20s, Trotsky was even larger than Stalin. In the 20s, the Civil War grew into an internal party ideological war - the first one won by Stalin, whose era began no earlier than 33rd, and it began with preparations for a hot war in conditions when many internal ideological enemies still remained in leadership positions, who found a common language with outsiders (the main Tolmach faded abroad - he established contacts). In the late 80s, our liberals in Ogonyok screamed with the pen of Korotich: "Not a step beyond the 33rd year!"; they wanted to show the people that Lenin was good - NEP introduced "seriously and for a long time", Trotsky was a clever fellow, and Stalin was an enemy.

[Igor39]

In the 80s, I liked to live as a kid, now I also like it, but in the Stalin era I did not want to live, and those who lived then, I sympathize, my ancestors who were not repressed and lived in the village, did not say enthusiastically about those years, they said that it was very difficult then and they were apolitical and did not work for the victory of communism, but that there would be a master and defender on the land of their ancestors.

[pv1005]

Quote: Igor39

In the 80s, I liked to live as a kid, now I also like it, but in the Stalin era I did not want to live, and those who lived then, I sympathize, my ancestors who were not repressed and lived in the village, did not say enthusiastically about those years, they said that it was very difficult then and they were apolitical and did not work for the victory of communism, but that there would be a master and defender on the land of their ancestors.

Why did you have such a good life as a kid in the 80s? Didn't you ask such a question? Where did it all come from? Schools, pioneer palaces, pioneer camps, pride in your country (just do not say that you "already understood everything"), etc., etc. Maybe all the same because your relatives (like the whole country) lived hard and worked for the good of the country. My relatives also lived hard, but they were proud that with their participation the country reached such heights.
And now we are working not for the victory of communism, and is it easy for someone ??? We don’t take one two% of the entrenched into account.

[Per se.]

Quote: Igor39

"this is a project of the Stalinist USSR" Here, explain to me not literate, when people lived well in the Stalinist USSR

We still use what was created and laid down in the "Stalinist USSR", the foundation of economic and military power was laid under Stalin, including the creation of nuclear weapons and developments for astronautics, it was under Stalin that the Soviet Union took shape as a superpower. What did our bourgeoisie create after 1991, were it not for the Soviet safety factor? What would have happened to Russia after 1917 without the Bolsheviks, when Nicholas II abdicated the throne, and Russia was in debt to the West, with Kerensky's mediocre and dependent government? I think it is much worse than what happened to us after the collapse of the USSR, since, in contrast to the legacy of the Soviet superpower, it was a semi-literate and impoverished country, drained of blood by the war. They would have found their Yeltsins, Gaidars and Chubais to Kerensky, who would have fallen under the West, buried the country. It was not the communists who took loans before the First World War and got into the Entente, to the joy of England, got involved in a war for other people's interests, it was not the communists who forced the tsar to abdicate the throne at the most crucial moment, and it was not the communists who declared the February Revolution. The communists then intervened in time and saved Russia, which the West had long wanted to see in its grave, no matter whether with the tsar or with the liberals, the West did not need a strong and independent Russia. The West does not need a strong Russia even now. Fortunately, the masks have been dropped, the West, represented by its leaders, the USA and England, have shown their true colors. Think what socialism and Stalin gave to Russia.

[V.ic]

Quote: Per se.

So think about what socialism and Stalin gave Russia.

Clearly said! Rarely, but aptly! And on the merits.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Igor39

Here explain to me not literate when in the Stalinist USSR they lived well

It is useless to explain.
I didn't live then. For this reason, I will not even stand up for Stalin. This is by analogy: "Who will plant him? He is a monument!"

But the end of the 1960s I remember clearly.

In the 1970s he lived in youth ... in the 1980s he raised children.
And there were no more happy moments than meeting great people in the most unexpected places.

I will give one example.
We return in the summer from Sevastopol to Leningrad.

Somewhere near Luga the poor fellow votes - struck the wheel.
And we have a spare camera already in business. Only a spare left.
Father gave a spare tire. and with her is our phone number.
Our reserve was returned to us with some gratitude .... and no collateral, money .... and other attributes of the gre. Ban capitalism ...

A lot of different people helped me too.
And the child was cured "for a bouquet of flowers and a box of chocolates"!

I just understood with all my heart that there were other "people" who hated this time, our people, our Country.
They were not able to understand the joy of another's happiness and the pain of another's misfortune ...
However, they do not need to be remembered ...

New Russians, hold on !!!

[V.ic]

Quote: Sergey S.

It is useless to explain.

100%!!. Do not work, he will not understand. Brains are sharpened for "inches" and pounds and / pancake-n "tallers". In those days, it was not considered a sin to "unfasten" a colleague "a ducat" until paycheck.

[tokens3]

They were not able to understand the joy of another's happiness and the pain of another's misfortune ...
However, they do not need to be remembered ...

But what is already there. Let's remember.
For example, 2-storey huts in large cities (Germans built) millionaires-whole working districts. They drank them all over the Soviet era. Actually GETTO! Of course they lived in fun. However, the 90s simply mowed down these quarters.
My uncle is an excellent welder! With an excellent salary! I just could not help but get drunk in the trash after pay. The tradition is with collectivism.
Do you think you’ve lived well?

A lot of different people helped me too.
And the child was cured "for a bouquet of flowers and a box of chocolates"!

Glad for you. However, here I have a mother, a doctor ...
And you know, no one wants a return to flowers and sweets.
People need to be respected and paid for their work.
Yes, you can remember a lot.
And here I am in the 90s came across normal people, under capitalism this very wild.
So a return to socialism with new workers of the "ghetto" and all for everything for a chocolate "alenka" and a bottle of the capital is hardly possible.
But sound capitalism, based on Russian traditions, to live in truth and with a cross from mother and father ... it really can be.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Lexi3

For example, 2-storey shacks in large cities (Germans built) millionaires-whole working districts. They drank them all over the Soviet era. Actually GETTO! Of course they lived in fun. However, the 90s simply mowed these quarters. My uncle is a great welder! with an excellent salary! I just could not help but get drunk in the trash after pay. The tradition is with collectivism. Do you think you lived well? How could it not be.

These houses in 2 or 3 floors still stand in Leningrad.
And if the owners of the apartments turned out to be sleek and watched the house, then it is convenient to live in these houses - and there is a place for a car nearby ...
As for the booze.
This is Caesar's - Caesar's, and the locksmith - Locksmith.
We won't even remember how they drank in the time of "Russian traditions ... with a cross from their mother ..."
For drinking is a certain expression of people's culture.
I was lucky.
The paternal grandfather, a St. Petersburg worker, had never drank vodka in his entire life. It is a fact.
My maternal grandfather - from the village of Vesyegonsky district - did not drink ... Then the Finnish, one of the few surviving in the company ... Then the rear service in besieged Leningrad. Then, already deep beyond 40, and a glass too, but homely, affectionate for the family ... And quick early death. Not long lived after the Victory.
Whoever says anything, he was ruined by vodka, and the war ... He was by nature an extremely peaceful person ...
Now I am preparing his portrait for the Immortal regiment.

About those who drank, too, could write from personal memories. But I don’t want to .. Get drunk, and let's all water around - one, another coward, someone a scoundrel, and someone bl..b.
How guilty of their shamelessness the Soviet government and the collectivism of healthy people, I do not understand.

These people, under any authority, will drink, report, sit around ... Pig will find dirt.

[tokens3]

Sergey S.

These houses in 2 or 3 floors still stand in Leningrad.
And if the owners of the apartments turned out to be sleek and watched the house, then it is convenient to live in these houses - and there is a place for a car nearby ...

And my uncle was like that. In the room for "washing" without a bath, even in Soviet times, he made a shower. With a scoop, a person did not care if he needed a shower after work or not. A garage was built near the house, instead of a wooden shed. Permission was not given for a long time- type of holops.

As for the booze.
This is Caesar's - Caesar's, and the locksmith - Locksmith.

you know In Soviet times, a fitter was precisely Caesar. For the state (as it is today) scored citizens' housing problems.
What, what? Do you have disrespect for the person of work?
yes, you old man is clearly not a communist. you only seem to them.

For drinking is a certain expression of people's culture.

drinking is an element of domestic policy. In conditions of a deficit in domestic production, vodka carried a devaluing function of wages. It is a shame to not know.

The paternal grandfather, a St. Petersburg worker, had never drank vodka in his entire life. It is a fact.

What time are you talking about? About the king?
And I tell you nothing about the stagnant mass. Somehow you are too far from the people.
My grandfather didn’t drink at all. He was the head of the department at a large defense plant.
The second grandfather was a war veteran. He was a forester after the war. And he revered God.
Yes, in Russia until 1917 the people generally drank little. Drinking is a "disease" instilled in the people in the USSR.

How guilty of their shamelessness the Soviet government and the collectivism of healthy people, I do not understand

I have no more questions. Maybe in time and understand.
I do not impose my opinion. The master's business is to understand or not to understand.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Lexi3

Yes, in Russia until 1917 the people generally drank little. Drinking is a "disease" instilled in the people in the USSR.

No need to tear and run up, but ... at least this is not true.

Seriously, government policy has included vodka in circulation under Peter the Great.
For Peter directed the entire tax on vodka to the construction of the fleet.

In the USSR, there were high taxes and heavy duties on alcohol. Only the enemy of the USSR, knowing the essence of the matter, can argue that the Communists deliberately soldered the people.

This tale was invented by the "democrats" only in Langley, and after Gorbachev foolishly decided to introduce measures to restrict drinking.
So these same bastards in the early 1990s were reproaching the Communist Party for the fact that people were drinking and for the anti-alcohol company.

You can remain with your opinion.
I am writing for Topvar visitors so that enemy poison does not stupefy the brain.

[tokens3]

Sergey S.

No need to tear and run up, but ... at least this is not true.

This is true.Under the king, the country was agricultural.
Out of the total number of inhabitants, 174 people, 099 people lived in cities, that is, only 600% (data from 24) [648].
The Russian village "did not drink" until 1917. Drinking establishments were the province of cities for 14,2% of the population.
You do not need to remind how the Russian village drank in 1985?
1985 (USSR) in million total: 276,3 180,1 (city) 96,2 (village)
But drunkenness was widespread in the working environment in the USSR. The lumpen was made from a worker — you want to live, and that’s why it’s bad and fuck with the team. Moreover, this image was strongly supported by cinema.
Will you be the third? Afonya
Yes ... well, it must be reminded that in the RSFSR everything was much worse with this matter than in other union republics.
YOU ARE SERGEY about what kind of Failures are you talking about?

Seriously, government policy has included vodka in circulation under Peter the Great.

Seriously, the state policy of Peter with vodka was "past" 90% of the population.

You can remain with your opinion.

staying

[user3970]

You know a bad story ... Two. Drinking in Russia was legalized by Peter 1, having instilled the use of vodka to the position of a garment and legitimizing taverns. He also introduced the celebration of the New Year on the night of January 31--1 (the day of circumcision of Christ's foreskin according to Jewish traditions), before him in Russia New Year was celebrated on September 1 FROM CREATION OF THE WORLD 7525. Tobacco and pederasty are also his merits.

[tokens3]

user3970

You know a bad story ... Two. Drinking in Russia legalized Peter 1

Did you read my full comment? Did you have a sandwich in your hand at the moment of the rollover?
More than 90% of Russian people wanted to cry at entot UKZ.
For the illiterate were And they didn’t see money spawn. They drank themselves in the old-fashioned ways.
Have you set me up?
Do not be offended then!

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Lexi3

And you know, nobody wants a return to flowers and sweets. People need to be respected and paid for their work.
... And here I am in the 90s came across normal people, under capitalism this very wild.
... But sound capitalism, relying on Russian traditions, to live in truth and with a cross from mother and father ... it really can be.

And what, now doctors and teachers get a decent salary ???
If a professor gets 37 thousand, what a young specialist gets is even a shame to pronounce ...
And extorting doctors for the sake of earning is the achievement of a new Russia ???
Unfortunately, your example only confirms that under socialism there was more justice. At least in relation to service people.
Today, only officials and the military are normally paid.

In the 1990s, I also came across idealist entrepreneurs ... They either gave up a bad job, or drifted into another circle of society and ceased to be ... "idealists."

Regarding sound capitalism, I note only. that now in Russia the most sound capitalism. and. God forbid, we run into some more ...

[tokens3]

And extorting doctors for the sake of earning is the achievement of a new Russia ???

Where did I write about ACHIEVEMENTS? MODERN RUSSIA?
Soviet medicine in primary care was an order of magnitude better. However, this is due to the massive number of graduates of medical schools (this is with 7 years of study in them !!!) imagine a woman in her prime cramming Latin and passing a bunch of exams. And by nature she needs to give birth 1- th child.
Not long ago, my mother underwent surgery. 20 thousand rubles.
Instead of this money, I would like to thank the doctors with flowers? Never, for I respect doctors.

Unfortunately, your example only confirms that under socialism there was more justice.

There was more naivety. If life expectancy in the USSR were like in Germany and Japan (countries that lost WWII, just a minute), it could be said that YOU are right. And I’m used to trusting what I see and know.

Regarding sound capitalism, I note only. that now in Russia the most sound capitalism. and. God forbid, we run into some more ...

In Russia, now is the time of war communism under the guise of liberal capitalism.
In order to come to normal sound capitalism, a period of planned economy of overcoming the crisis is needed (USA Roosevelt times).

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Lexi3

Russia is now the time of war communism under the guise of liberal capitalism. To come to normal healthy capitalism, you need a period of planned economy to get out of the crisis (USA Roosevelt times).

I understand that you have your own "truth".
But NOW IN RUSSIA, REAL CAPITALISM IN THE FINAL STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT is OLIGARCHIC and, as the classics wrote, transnational.
And do not cast a shadow on the fence.
Those who studied political economy will understand me.

A planned economy ... is closer to socialism. Not only that, President Roosevelt’s measures are better called state regulation .... But there is no more Roosevelt ...

[tokens3]

Sergey S.

But NOW IN RUSSIA, REAL CAPITALISM IN THE FINAL STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT IS OLIGARCHIC

What are you?
and I thought colonial.

A planned economy ... is closer to socialism.

a joint economy together creates the conditions for expanding the consumer market.
A developed consumer market is important for changing consumer identity.
And then ... a planned economy is not so effective.
Labor productivity tends to increase, making collective efforts suitable only for amateur performances

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: Sergey S.

Those who studied political economy will understand me.

Great science and dreams are hard to argue.

Quote: Lexi3

In order to come to normal sound capitalism, a period of planned economy of overcoming the crisis is needed (USA Roosevelt times).

Here is an excerpt from a conversation between Stalin and Herbert Wells
"Stalin. When I talk about the impossibility of implementing the principles of a planned economy while maintaining the economic base of capitalism, I do not want to belittle Roosevelt's outstanding personal qualities - his initiative, courage, decisiveness. Undoubtedly, of all the captains of the modern capitalist world, Roosevelt is the most Therefore, I would like to emphasize once again that my conviction in the impossibility of a planned economy under capitalism does not at all mean doubts about the personal abilities, talent and courage of President Roosevelt. But the most talented commander, if the situation does not favor him, cannot achieve that goal you are talking about. Theoretically, of course, it is possible that under capitalism, little by little, step by step, go to the chain that you call socialism in the Anglo-Saxon interpretation of this word. But what will this "socialism" mean. ?
In the best case - some curbing of the most unbridled individual representatives of capitalist profit, some strengthening of the regulatory principle in the national economy. All this is good. But as soon as Roosevelt or some other captain of the modern bourgeois world wants to do something serious against the foundations of capitalism, he will inevitably fail completely. After all, the banks are not with Roosevelt, because the industry is not with him, after all, large enterprises, large savings are not with him. After all, all this is private property. Both the railways and the merchant fleet are all in the hands of private owners. And, finally, an army of skilled labor, engineers, technicians, they, too, are not for Roosevelt, but for private owners, they work for them ... "
Here is a link, read: http: //colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2328890.html

[tokens3]

PHANTOM-AS
Yes, of course Roosevelt and Stalin did exactly the same thing.
However, as shown on June 22, 1941, the locomotive of the planned economy was dispersed somewhat in the wrong direction.
Rather, on the siding. East
The Germans didn’t soar at all with mass weapons releases, for example, they all meticulously calculated, and all they had was enough to capture all of Europe and most of the European USSR.
Maybe then Hitler should be recognized as a genius economist? Although there is no doubt that the argument is clearly not an enemy of Russia.
So the industrialization and collectivization of Stalin had a lot of stocks. Roosevelt was generally in an ideal situation across the ocean.

[tokens3]

Prove Mina.
Plus pop-pour.
What a "boring" political instructor went.

[cap]

Quote: Lexi3

The Germans didn’t soar at all with mass weapons releases, for example, they all meticulously calculated, and all they had was enough to capture all of Europe and most of the European USSR.
Maybe then Hitler should be recognized as a genius economist? Although there is no doubt that the argument is clearly not an enemy of Russia.

I agree. If Hitler had not shot himself, he would have received the Nobel Prize for sure.
Happy New Year !

[tokens3]

I agree. If Hitler had not shot himself, he would have received the Nobel Prize for sure. laughing
Happy New Year !

Do you still doubt the loyalty of the Swedes to him?
You are right! The ingenious was a bastard.
But he relaxed. He climbed to Stalingrad.
Happy new year

[tokens3]

In the 1990s, I also came across idealist entrepreneurs ... They either gave up a bad job, or drifted into another circle of society and ceased to be ... "idealists."

Your attitude to the surrounding reality is really amusing.
Over the past decade, under Putin, small businesses have suffered a lot, because all trade has gone under the roof of shopping centers, which were owned by the local authorities through stakes and dummies. In fact, local loyalty was bought, to the detriment of the interests of hundreds of thousands of small entrepreneurs ...
Naturally shared with large Western networks with market share.
Apparently you understand this by the word “the drift of idealistic entrepreneurs?” In fact, a monopoly on trade has been introduced with the division of property rights down to the inspection bodies.
So ... don't talk about idealism. I knew many entrepreneurs who literally risked their lives in the 90s. And it is thanks to them that I’m sorry even in Mukh.sr.ke. there were flowers and goods for mass use of citizens. And it was thanks to the huge number of small "hucksters" that chaos did not happen in the 90s.
And chaos is always an occasion for revolution.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Lexi3

Your attitude towards the reality is really amusing. Over the past decade, under Putin, small businesses have suffered greatly.

Your attitude towards reality is by no means harmless.
With the obvious correct direction of thought, the final conclusions are the opposite of meaning.

Small business is imposed on us by the enemies of the USSR.
For example, Thatcher only imposed him on Gorbachev and Yeltsin as a recipe for prosperity.
This was done in order to turn dust to the industrial world giants of the USSR.

Many enemies succeeded ...
But those giants that remained before Putin now bring to our state not just income, but real life-giving force.
Small business in industry is a treacherous myth.
Small business in agriculture is at least Soviet collective farms, and not at all individual peasant farmers.

And about VV Putin.
It is V.V. Putin is trying to strengthen the economic foundations of capitalist Russia. And he is trying in every possible way to promote precisely small business. What can be done for this from the Kremlin cabinet - everything is being done.
But the laws of social development cannot be prohibited or redone.
And capitalism. as outdated and obsolete, snarls at the failures in the economy. But in essence. what is being taught at the level of political economy of socialism is happening: Oligarchic transnational capitalism kills national economies and the personal initiative of individual citizens.
The laws:
the transition of quantity into quality,
denial of negation
spiral development.

I really didn’t like this "crap", but you cannot erase the word from the song ...

[tokens3]

With Sergei

Your attitude towards reality is by no means harmless.

Small business is imposed on us by the enemies of the USSR

Many enemies succeeded ...

Small business in industry is a treacherous myth.

Sorry, Sergei, but I’m not going to argue with your slogans.

The laws:
the transition of quantity into quality,
denial of negation
spiral development

And here you are right. And you just confirmed my words about a planned economy as an accelerating locomotive. The quantity is turning into quality - or rather, the demand for better things is growing.
And here salvation is only one-mass competition. And this is small and medium business. Alas.
With the planned acceleration of the economy, it is important to press the stopcock in time. Otherwise, in its pure form, the drug from which the Union is bent.
I am in a good mood. Let's postpone the lectures on political economics for later?
Happy new year

[hartlend]

You need to strive for knowledge, and not be proud of your illiteracy. The article talks about building a society of justice, not a good life. "Good" is a relative term. And if on the merits of the question - look at the concept of public safety, books by G. A. Sidorov. It is impossible to explain in a few words the work that Stalin did.

[Serggii]

General, if you don’t like the country of Vali. Alas, the history cannot be changed. However, the achievements under the CPSU were many times greater. Now, having created PD 14, we shout the first turbofan engine and in the scoop they have been tested in dozens during the five-year period.

[78bor1973]

The article refers to the very idea of ​​building a socialist society, but as they say, they sailed, we know! We will bring any idea to the point of absurdity.

[rvRomanoff]

Dear author, the bright future that you described requires tremendous efforts to educate a new person. For about so many years, as in Andromeda Efremov's Nebula, to which you refer. And immediately the question arises: Who and for what? And it is necessary to answer it globally, and not just for Russia. Why change to American, German, Chinese, Japanese, etc. in the image and likeness of the Stalinist USSR.

[Per se.]

Quote: rvRomanoff

And immediately the question arises: Who and for what? And it is necessary to answer it globally, and not just for Russia.

There was such a children's writer, Nikolai Nosov, probably read his books as a child. So, what the West brings us, capitalism, this is "Dunno on the Moon", what socialism brought, what Ivan Efremov dreamed of, this is shown in the Solar City, in a language accessible even to children. Now "Luna" has come to our "Sunny City", fines, taxes, corruption, imported "dwarf" and GMO plants for Dunno's friends, the whole nightmare "from the Moon", from Nosov's fairy tale, has come true for Russia. Why change for what? For the sake of a normal life, without the canonization of fagots, the cult of consumerism and the deity of money, with the most base impulses and selfish motivation of life. Capitalism has outlived its usefulness, reaching in development the creation of transnational monopolies, ready for any crime for the sake of their profit and their planetary power. And, enough about the "Stalinist USSR", this was the beginning of the construction of socialism, a difficult and difficult period that could not be eternal and inevitably had to pass to another phase of development. Capitalism had a bloodier history and developed much longer than the "Stalinist USSR", but did not achieve the results in time that were made during the Stalinist period, the transformation of a backward and semi-literate country into an industrial superpower. It is unlikely that without a return to socialism, civilization has a bright future.

[rvRomanoff]

Dear colleague, I know all this no worse than you, but this does not give an answer to the question. I hope I will not discover America if I write the obvious things that any society always creates adequate human material for it, necessary for the existence of a society of this type. Next comes the state, whose function is to protect this type of society by any means. Now let's try to build socialism in the USA. What is needed for that? Destroy the state and remake two-thirds of citizens into adherents of socialism. What will this give in the short term for them? - a disaster. And now I ask again - why do they need it? So I wrote in the first part of my post that a bright future cannot be built in five minutes.

[gladcu2]

rvRomanoff

Something you through w., Want to do.

Why scare people with socialism, the fact that they do not know.

Start with the little things. Increase the role of the state in the structure of society by starting the nationalization of bankrupt enterprises. Stop selling state property. Nationalize insurance companies. Limit your banking business to a minimum percentage. Limit the time to repay home loans to 15 years. Stop changing moral values. Prohibit trading in derivatives. Limit the lobbying system.

Yes, there is no end to the work. And he himself will come to socialism. Hotota then call it modern capitalism. Why shock people.

[Shark Lover]

The most important crisis is fagots. Legalization of same-sex marriages - a process is underway aimed at reducing fertility in a perverse way. By the way, it’s very convenient, you can take the whole family into the army, a tank crew, two families, a husband, a driver, a wife, a commander, a husband, a pilot-wife and a navigator. By the way, in the DRA, we somehow took a gang from an ambush. And there are 8 queers, painted, cutesy. We dragged along gangs in the mountains like brothels, conveniently. Is this what should happen in my head that demolished the tower? Again we save the world also from this.
Friends, everyone with the Coming One, the olivier is already chopping, hunger is tormenting, you can’t do anything until the evening, champagne sweats, red caviar languish)), the phone is red from congratulations. Life goes on, life is beautiful, but we will leave the freaks for the New Year for a hangover. Hurray !!!!!

[avva2012]

Russia already has experience building such a society - this is a project Stalin's USSR. That is, the only way to save all of humanity is the rule of a fair (moral) concept. The salvation of modern Russia in the transformation into the "City of Kitezh" ("Bright Russia", "USSR-2"). Thus, Russian civilization carries the core, an idea that can save all of humanity.

The problem is in the staff. Where can I get them? In the Stalinist USSR, the fight against illiteracy was first carried out. Then, the Book entered every home. Education has become available to the entire population of the country. For about ten years, in the USSR, as a result of a well-thought-out policy, there appeared "out of nowhere" its scientists, top-level managers, engineers and workers. Only after that, a colossal industry emerged, the fruits of which we still use today. In addition, an incredible in its scale, the improvement of the population was carried out. Medicine, TRP norms, etc. The state, it seems, having replaced Orthodox morality and ethics with the "code of the builder of communism," in fact, supported and strengthened these moral values ​​in the population.
I am writing quite banal things. But honestly, I'm tired of reading such statements: The only way to save all of humanity is the rule of a fair (moral) concept. Without the State program in education, medicine, development of spirituality, all these statements will remain empty words. So far empty. There is only one question: "When will our state understand this and return to what was in the Stalinist USSR?"

[rvRomanoff]

A dangerous delusion to consider the Stalinist USSR in isolation from Gorbachevsky. And if the state does not understand something there, then this is the desire of the majority, otherwise revolutions will occur.

[Cap.Morgan]

The educational program was expressed in the "education" of the population at the level of 2 classes of a rural school, which was the end of it.
Then these peppers became leaders. And the commanders of the Red Army.
We had a physically healthy population by nature. We were all peasants. Accustomed to physical labor, hence health. What side was the achievement of socialism in medicine is not clear. Collective farmers were definitely not sent to France for water.
The colossal industry produced a great deal. So that the soldiers in the barracks, if possible, did not need anything. Footcloths and boots were canceled only a couple of years ago.
Society was spiritual.
The works of Lenin, Marx and the recollections of the old Bolsheviks were gathering dust on every shelf.

[Darkness]

Life expectancy in RI what was physically healthy Are you ours? What about mortality?

[avva2012]

Yes, yes, infant mortality, in RI, look, is it not impressive? How many congeners died? Natural selection, damn it. Only, you would hardly want to fall under it. Born in the Soviet hospital.

[GOR_XVII]

Cap.Morgan, you're trying in vain to convince the local red-brown audience. It's useless. They are sure that Russia appeared only in the 17th year and the first person on earth was Lenin and the second Stalin. All outstanding people, of course, appeared only in the 17th and only Stalin breathed talent into them. Until the 17th in Russia there was not a single factory, factory, and the country was not in the top 5 leaders in the world.
For some reason, they are sure that by killing a couple of millions of their citizens it is possible to build a just society and are confident that they would not have worked at the White Sea Channel as slaves at that time, they would not have been shot or exiled to Siberia, they are stupidly justified by the fight against enemies.
And it is very strange that, justifying the repressions of those times, they forget that then, theoretically, just like the Bolsheviks did, they need to be either shot now, or sent as slaves to the "construction site of the century" as they are enemies of modern power.

[Darkness]

Another liberal demagogue.

[avva2012]

Interestingly, but what kind of color is this red-brown? I’ve been racking my brains for a long time, I can’t imagine how. Remove the weight from the soul, explain what it looks like?

[Extraneous]

Why are they sure that by killing a couple of millions of their citizens a fair society can be built

You probably bent it. A fair society no one hopes to ever see. This nonsense was invented for the organization of all kinds of secret societies, designed to work to destabilize existing regimes and carry out coups, turning into civil wars. A tool to fight for the fattest pieces. No more.

And it is very strange that, justifying the repressions of those times, they forget that then, theoretically, just like the Bolsheviks did, they need to be either shot now, or sent as slaves to the "construction site of the century" as they are enemies of modern power.

Repressions are justified not because evil "red-brown" people, but on the basis of historical expediency and social laws.
"In theory" more than 80% of the country's population is in both hands for the death penalty. This is despite the fact that the people are well aware of how the judicial and legal machine works. This means that they are aware that it is the people who will suffer in the first place. Paradox?

Liberalism is a system destroying the state. An alternative to destruction is seen as a dictatorial authoritarian regime that is able to preserve the integrity of the state and ensure the safety of the people as a single community. And this community is more important for self-preservation, albeit due to the loss of a part of the population that constitutes it, than all sorts of beautiful ideas that lead to the death of society. Pure survival instinct.

[V.ic]

Quote: GOR_XVII

Cap.Morgan, you are in vain trying to convince the local red-brown audience. It's useless. They are sure,

Yes. off couse! Why are you grazing on this site "Yaytsenyukh's clones"? Submit to "different sites" and hammer your colleagues and college girls into "DUPU".

[Extraneous]

The educational program was expressed in the "education" of the population at the level of 2 classes of a rural school

Distort, dear. Primary education - three classes. In particular - my grandmother had an education - three classes of primary school. She wrote without a single mistake, by the way. Yes, and dabbled in poetry. Where are we with our current, ten-year-old.
After the initial one - the workers' school. Here you have both secondary and primary higher. Without him, no one could apply for any position. The "pigs" and "shepherds" had the same opportunity to "steer", as now - purely declaratively.

[Wheel]

Quote: Stranger

The pigs "and" shepherds "had the same opportunity to" steer ", as now - purely declaratively.

Well, how can I tell you ...
There was a certain Bulganin Nikolai Aleksandrovich, had an incomplete secondary education, and he headed the USSR State Bank three times (including during the war), taxied the Minister of Defense and even headed the government of the USSR.

[Extraneous]

: o) It was about

"The educational program was expressed in the" education "of the population at the level of 2 classes of a rural school, which is where it all ended. Then these peppers became leaders."

Bulganin is the son of a clerk of a large industrialist, which means a high level of culture and education in the family. The real school in which he studied is the level of some Soviet-era polytechnic. so no contradiction. With "two classes of a rural school" there was practically no chance to "steer". Those of the illiterate who rose to power on the wave of the revolution and civil, or were destroyed later, or were forced to study in order to meet the requirements.

In general: if a person is interested in his job, he learns constantly. Otherwise, it will not stand the competition.

[Wheel]

Quote: Stranger

The real school in which he studied is the level of some polytechnic of Soviet times. so no contradiction.

Actually, a real school = FZU = vocational school.
Until 1888, after it was impossible to enter universities, if Che.

Quote: Stranger

In general: if a person is interested in his job, he learns constantly.

Yes. That is why Lenin wrote that the cook should study to govern the state.
Original:
We are not utopians. We know that any laborer and any cook are not capable of immediately taking control of the state. In this we agree with the Cadets, and with Breshkovskaya, and with Tsereteli. But we differ from these citizens in that we demand an immediate break with the prejudice that it is to run the state, to carry on the everyday, daily work of the administration, only rich or from rich families are taken officials. We demand that training the matter of public administration was carried out by class-conscious workers and soldiers, and so that it could be started immediately, that is, all workers, the whole poor, were immediately involved in training this.

[kalibr]

Actually, everything is correct. And if we leave the overly pretentious "Kitezh Grad" outside the brackets, then with the current trends in the development of world events, Russia really has a chance to act as a kind of "rallying" of the white race, and simply offer to move to us all those Europeans who are closely and unpleasant to live among the dominant migrants That is, in turn, start exporting brains. And if the United States leads it by offering material benefits, then we will be able to offer other benefits, more valuable benefits - the opportunity to live in a close ethnic group, among people of our own race. That is, we are talking, if we approach the matter this way, about a new round of segregation along racial and cultural grounds.

[Lyubteh]

And let me be called a racist, but I fully support the idea of ​​rallying the white RACA of the aces of the aces of the country of aces ASIA!

[Igor39]

Stop your hobbies, will not bring to good

[AlNikolaich]

Colleagues, you describe development prospects based on the Stalinist USSR, and for many objective reasons, it is already impossible, even in our Russia ... It is not regrettable that our leadership is now on the way to a non-slave state! The system of education and upbringing, the general borrowing of citizens, the lawlessness of the banking sector ...
Read Suren Tsormudyan. A series of two books. About non-slavery Russia. Though fantastic, it opens eyes to many things ...

[fraders]

in these books, if I’m not mistaken, about the occupation of Russia? post apocalypse of civilization

[Darkness]

Suren, little devil, excellent at writing.
His "Second Chance Will Not Be" rereading ten times

[Stanislas]

Quote: AlNikolaich

Leadership is now on its way to a non-slave state!

Just do not stand, but go. The faithful path goes leadership. And you, therefore, want to make slaves for yourself, or maybe you want to work hard for the benefit of a civilized master?

[RONIN-HS]

... Read Suren Tsormudyan. A series of two books ...

What kind of books ??? The name ... - OWL!

[AlNikolaich]

Oh, got messed up ... Author Ruslan Melnikov. Series "Headhunter"! Book of the first: "The Collector of Heads",
the second is "Human Hunters". Although I recommend reading Suren! The authors have a similar, very dynamic and laconic manner of presentation, so I confused it!
I would also recommend Alexander Afanasyev of the "Third World War" series "The Period of Decay" and Gleb Bobrov, he wrote about the events in Ukraine ... Long before the Maidan ...

[sa-ag]

still the third was not on the fourth already the author swung

[Darkness]

Regarding parasitism, Tarmashev very accurately noted in his books. Especially in the Ancient.
According to this novel, movies would be made ....

[antiexpert]

the article as a whole is so-so, but what I really liked is the photo

the author hardly suspects that this sculptural group is nothing but a Vedic remake of the goddess Kali (in the background) and the god Shiva (in the foreground) - this principle was stated in Putin’s speech at the UN.
Clarification: there are several principles of systems
1. The Jewish principle is constant growth, and globalization or unipolarity, characteristic of viruses, the United States with the Fed.
2. Taoist - this is when there are two opposing systems - communism and capitalism - here you can pay for neutrality, you must pay for the first or second
3. The Vedic Trimurti - creative (RF), destroying (USA) and - observing (the rest of the world), ie nobody is punished for reluctance to join - this is the principle that Putin proclaimed to the UN (and it is unfortunate that few people noticed this) - and this is a new stage in the development of civilization!

[rvRomanoff]

It seems to me that the author of this sculptural group, too, did not suspect a similar interpretation of his work and invested in it precisely the meaning that we used to see behind it.

[antiexpert]

Paris, 1937 - the author of this sculpture, in which the goddess Kali and Shiva also did not suspect that in 4 years there will be a war against those who put two 3.14daras in front of his sculpture, but even here you can see who will win the future battle) )))

[voyaka uh]

Quote: antiexpert

Vedic trimurti - creative (RF), destroying (USA) and - observing (the rest of the world),

Curious.
If I understood correctly: the USA is Kali (and the Statue of Liberty is a woman (Kali?)), The Russian Federation is Shiva?

But there is a snag. China clearly comes in second in power. Those. China is turning into Shiva,
and the Russian Federation, it turns out, goes into observers?

Actually, somewhere I read about it at Pelevin ...

[alicante11]

But there is a snag. China clearly comes in second in power. Those. China is turning into Shiva,
and the Russian Federation, it turns out, goes into observers?

China is a paper dragon. Which in the economy is completely dependent on the export of products and is not economically self-sufficient, which is in the military field. Despite the large investments, they cannot create a big reserve for modern weapons. Particularly problematic are the Air Force and Air Defense.

[Wheel]

Quote: alicante11

China is a paper dragon.

Yeah, before WWII there was also a popular point of view that the USSR was a colossus with feet of clay ...
How not to make a mistake ...

[jaroff]

It is strange that the author forgot about the ordinary human factor. And I absolutely do not exclude such a catastrophic development of events as the deliberate launch of missiles from nuclear weapons from any carrier (nuclear submarine, aircraft or stationary installation) .And from any side. It’s just not a mentally normal serviceman with access to nuclear weapons. And I don’t need to talk about all kinds of medical commissions and 100% mentally healthy officers. About the highest level of checks, admissions, etc. And especially about all kinds of technical locks on the launch of nuclear weapons. All this, if desired, is bypassed.
And then the meaning of all these "golden families", "rulers of the world", etc. is lost.

[Tektor]

Islam is associated with the most wild archaic, violence and massacres (genocide). After the defeat of the Caliphate project, Islam and Islamic civilization will be discredited, the Quran will be put on a par with Hitler’s Mein Kampf. The territory of Islamic civilization is turned into the main battlefield of the World War, which should lead to the most severe losses of the Muslim population ...

I do not agree. To the extent that sclerosis doesn’t fail me, the British carefully studied the Koran, and found it to be an unusual interpretation by a certain Wahhab. This interpretation allows some Muslims to be set against others, which made it possible for the British to divide and rule completely. There are several options for resolving the conflict: Islam eliminates itself, one of the branches wins, they find the possibility of reconciliation and consent, the transition to a single church.

[chunga-changa]

We've all seen train station throwers with thimbles. Here the victim comes up, but she does not know that the victim, she thinks that she is a "partner" and that the game is being played according to "internationally recognized laws and rules", and the gang members standing around are the "world community". She starts to play, they give her to win a couple of times, and then she gets naked. For the victim, everything is serious, she puts her hard-earned money on the line, realizing the risk, strains all her mental and physical strength, and already sweats. In her opinion, she participates in "world politics", even "wins" a couple of times, only for the thugs, station police officers, everything is clear from the very beginning and the sucker is simply bred, and if he starts to rock the boat, they are taken to the side and stupidly beaten by the whole gang (" the world community ").
The police where the victim comes "for the truth" in the share and the sucker is stupidly sent there. For the victim, everything that happened is a grandiose event that happens once in a lifetime, a legendary story is made from it, which is passed from father to son. From now on in the family, navigating train station thimblers is considered the greatest feat possible. Just walking by without participating is the height of ingenuity and luck, and becoming a thimbler yourself is an unrealizable desire and the crown of a career.
For the gop company, all this is an everyday routine, they strip these little girls every day, several pieces. And the story, in fact, is the most banal, we all passed by many times and did not pay special attention, but undress - it is his own fault, no one is forcibly dragging, himself, everything himself. Going to play - have your own gang, bigger. No gang - don't play. There is one rule in "thimbles" - the strongest wins, there are no other rules.

[RUSEV]

People do not poison your mind with these crazy little articles. The author of this article is clearly a pathological schizophrenic from some Khrushchev of some Mukhosk.

[tokens3]

The salvation of modern Russia in the transformation into the “City of Kitezh” (“Bright Russia”, “USSR-2”).

Until the country's history is cleared of the crimes of the Bolsheviks both in 1917 and in 1991. All these projects are yet another temptation.
The period of Stalin’s reign is an example of crisis management. Yes, effective! But very bloody. The matter is not even in repressions. Collectivization bled the Russian people cleaner than any epidemic. Errors in the initial period of the Second World War are millions!
Yes! Stalin built a power. But the price?
Much that Stalin used can be repeated. But far from all. And in any case, with the rejection of faithful Leninists.
"City of Kitezh" with a completely shredded Russian language? And the imposition of a "veto" on Russian traditions and way of life?
Well, well. A fair wind before the first crisis and inevitable civil war.

[VladimS]

After the "break" in 1945, such a start and pace was taken, which we will never achieve later. Life was improving at a tremendous rate. For 20 years the country has changed - compare 45 and 65 years!

Exactly what! It is not superfluous to recall that it was in the 50s and early 60s that there was a huge surge in the birth rate, by the way, both here and abroad, which cannot be repeated. And this is with that difficult, not at all simple life of ordinary people. Especially in the USSR. Moreover, how many new cities appeared in those years ... A dream! People believed in a better life seeing their real progress.

[Andrew Iwanow]

Maybe I don’t understand something, but the Stalinist society de facto relied on traditional values. And Efremov’s fantasies, for all their beauty, somehow don’t really stick to him. Let's recall the fantasies of Efremov’s colleague, Martynov, who painted a communist society of aliens, where parents are divorced from the upbringing of their children. Are we dreaming of sending our children to a boarding school? There was no such thing under Stalin. They experimented before him, but from the end of the 30, these experiments waned and the family began to strengthen.

[stopkran]

As the biblical concept of crowd-elitarizia was 3000 years old, it remains the same, as it is not renamed. With the development of society, only the management structure will become more complicated, but not the concept of management itself. Was there no money 3000 years ago? Was! Isn't there currently a slave trade? There is!

[Undermined ustoev]

Quote: V.ic

Quote: GOR_XVII

Cap.Morgan, you are in vain trying to convince the local red-brown audience. It's useless. They are sure,

Yes. off couse! Why are you grazing on this site "Yaytsenyukh's clones"? Submit to "different sites" and hammer your colleagues and college girls into "DUPU".

Your aggressive rejection of another point of view resembles one resource, which in a decent society is shameful to mention. I give a hint: there they praise the shelling from the city in the peaceful quarters of Lugansk and Donetsk, as well as other small towns. There is no need to be assimilated - you’ll take a look at the CPSU and the Democrats in their time.

Quote: AlNikolaich

Colleagues, you describe development prospects based on the Stalinist USSR, and for many objective reasons, it is already impossible, even in our Russia ... It is not regrettable that our leadership is now on the way to a non-slave state! The system of education and upbringing, the general borrowing of citizens, the lawlessness of the banking sector ...
Read Suren Tsormudyan. A series of two books. About non-slavery Russia. Though fantastic, it opens eyes to many things ...

Do not take loans. Live within your means. It is obvious. There are suckers who pecked at Mavrodi for the second time, and people of age, i.e. educated in that country, which was destroyed not without their tacit consent to the sound of miners helmets and screams: “Yeltsin! Yeltsin! ” As I understand it, you are bashfully silent about this.
Take part in the life of your child, and do not push him to the state. a car. Want to live in the Stalinist USSR? Go to the construction sites of the century: Vostochny spaceport and the Yamal LNG project are waiting for you.

[Elena2013]

Methods of propaganda of perversions by means of cinema

[Andrei946]

In the meantime, everything develops as described by IA Efremov in his "Hour of the Bull"