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They got up in black clouds

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Being interested in history Zaporizhzhya Cossacks, reviewed a lot of materials on this topic. And in the research notes of the famous French military engineer and cartographer Guillaume Boplan, of the same age as the Zaporizhian Sich, she found a lot of interesting and unexpected things about the naval campaigns of the Cossacks, who terrified the coastal cities of the Ottoman Empire, at the Sultan’s fleet.

We are used to hearing about the Cossacks as warriors of the steppes, but it turns out that they often conducted naval operations in response to the raids of the Turks. For this, a whole squadron was built of 80-100 boats, called gulls, up to 18 meters long, up to 4 meters wide and high. The seagull had 10-15 pairs of oars, a sail, several light cannons and could accommodate from 50 to 70 people armed with rifles, sabers, and spears. This armada, having descended the Dnieper, according to Boplan, after 36-40 hours, having crossed the Black Sea, reached the Turkish coast, reached Istanbul. The indefatigable Cossack rowers were elusive for Turkish fleet, and then, to get even for the impudent sorties of the Cossacks, the reinforced Turkish squadron was waiting for them on their way back to the mouth of the Dnieper.

And then the Cossacks, and so battered in battles, in order to avoid even greater losses when returning home, resorted to a fallback. Here I will cite Boplan's words literally: “... They return through the Don Estuary (the Cossacks of the Sea of ​​Azov was called): they pass through the strait between Taman and Kerch, rise up to the Mius River and go last until it can lift their vessels. Then they went ashore and along 200-300 people dragged their gulls one by one into the River Tachavod, which flowed into the Dnieper Samara, which, in turn, flowed into the Dnieper.

There are moments in this story even more interesting and surprising, in which I would not have believed if it were not for the eyewitness chronicles. The same way according to Mius, although he was long and difficult, the Cossacks sometimes used to go to sea.

This happened when they knew that there were large Turkish forces at the mouth of the Dnieper, and they had no more 20-25 gulls. It was then that the Cossacks went to the trick, using no one else known, unique for those times weapon, with the description of which every book begins today, telling about the history of the submarine fleet. Yes Yes! Be surprised, but don't laugh. The expression "Submarine in the steppes of Ukraine", but you can add "in the steppes of Azov" no longer seems a joke when you find out what these guys thought of more than three hundred years ago. One tea was covered with another and sealed. The sides made holes for oars, reinforced with leather cuffs. The air in the "submarine" entered the mine, which surfaced in a small boat, where one Cossack sat - "looking."

And now imagine a picture: the Turks are waiting and waiting for the Cossacks, and here the fisherman swims in the boat, returning from the sea. No one pays any attention to him. But when the boat was equal to the ship of an unsuspecting enemy, the Cossacks in the “submarine” uncoupled the ballast, and the black from the resin, which fastened the shaggy algae onto itself, a kind of “wonder-yudo fish-whale”, suddenly emerged like a float, under the nose Turks, terrifying and numbing them. And from the opened hatch, the Cossacks would rush to the boarding with a whoop.

This is how the steppe river played a significant role in the naval operations of free warriors of the southern outskirts of Russia. And, maybe, even in those campaigns, one of them looked at a small town on its shores, and when, many years later, most of the Cossacks moved to the Kuban, three hundred Cossacks came to Mius, founding three settlements, one of which, Upper , now Pokrovskoye village, October 14 celebrated its 241 anniversary.

At one time, I heard that it was not Stalin, or Khrushchev who had views of the “reorganization” of the Mius River, so that she could ride the barges from Donbass to the sea. Those leaders of the river turned back, man-made seas created, because you could believe in that rumor. But the plans, if there were any, did not come true, and the banks of the winding river did not hear the beeps of the steamer sirens. Unless the “Kazanka” is rattling with a small motor or a wave about the punt is quietly splashing - that's all the shipping! But past exploits have been preserved in legends and became the basis of military affairs, which grew into the marines.

They got up in black clouds


On November 27, Russia celebrated the 310 anniversary of the formation of the marines. Unfortunately, due to the complexity of collecting material, my note did not ripen exactly to the date, but I think it has not lost its meaning. Anniversary year continues.

The Day of Marine Corps is a professional holiday of all those passing and serving in the Marine Corps. This is a relatively young holiday, despite the fact that the history of the Russian marines has more than three centuries since the day of the imperial decree of Peter the Great from 16 (27) in November 1705 of the year. It was on this day in 1996 that the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral Felix Gromov, signed Order No. 253 on the revival of the Marines' holiday.

“Throughout the entire history of the nation, naval soldiers showed the best qualities of the defenders of the Fatherland — dedication, courage, courage, and partnership. Marines heroically fought in the Battle of Borodino and the Crimean War. The German fascist invaders called the sailors in black uniforms for their fearlessness and heroism “the black death”.

The infantry of the three elements passed all the “hot spots” of the planet. Fought in Japan, Korea, Algeria, Egypt, Yemen, Vietnam, Ethiopia, Afghanistan - only in fourteen countries.

The strength of the Marines is unstoppable, persistent, purposeful. They possess a variety of combat techniques with and without weapons, sharpness and dexterity. If they go on the attack, in order to overturn the enemy at all costs. If they are on the defensive, then they hold on to the last, astounding the enemy with inconceivable, incomprehensible resistance. ”

The former commander of a company of grenadiers, Captain Von Lutviy, returning from Soviet captivity, said: “When storming the bastion near Sevastopol in 1941, which was defended by Bolshevik Marines, we found a machine-gun nest. We were more, and we began to pass forward. On the way, aside, lay dead, and we did not pay attention to him, passed by. He immediately jumped up and stuck a knife in my back. He fled, stepped on a mine and flew into the air, rolled over, fell, but immediately jumped up and disappeared into the trench. A very expensive price has given us the life of these black devils. ”

Marines were in the young Soviet Guard even before the creation of regular units of the Red Army. They fought bravely with the White Guards, but sympathized and supported the Social Revolutionaries. After the Bolsheviks became firmly in power, these units were declared counter-revolutionary and were eliminated.

Before the Great Patriotic War in the Soviet Union there was one naval brigade (in the Baltic Fleet). Yes, and that due to the lack of practice of its application in battle, it was transformed into a normal infantry unit, and then lost without a trace.

They got up black cloud

During the war, units and battalions of marines began to emerge on their own during the heroic defense of Odessa. The Black Sea sailors, left without ships, took rifles and, together with land units, went to protect the beloved city. They brought fear and horror to the enemy. The fame of their heroic exploits spread throughout the Soviet fronts and heroic movements. She called for military and labor feats, strengthened faith in our victory.

Almost spontaneously detachments of marines began to be created in all fleets and flotillas during the defense of naval bases and port cities. By September, 1941, they already had more than 100 thousands of fighters. Recognized and high command. And October 18 1941 of the year, finally, the State Defense Committee issued a decree on the creation of 25-ti naval infantry brigades, then another ten, which immediately went to the front.

More than a hundred successful amphibious operations with the participation of the Marines were carried out during the years of the Great Patriotic War.

For all of the Don Primius Region, the marines are not an abstract, mythical, but a real, close concept. Here, from among the fishermen and sailors of the merchant fleet, the legendary Caesar Kunikik created his own, one of the first detachment in the country, which grew into a battalion of marines. Alexey Vasilyevich Stepanenko from the village of Pokrovskoye courageously and bravely fought in it.

A battalion of Kunikov's marines numbering 700 fighters in the battles for the city and the sea port of Novorossiysk did something that two whole divisions could not do with the support of fifty ships of the Black Sea Fleet. He bold and decisive actions in hand-to-hand combat, overcoming the stubborn resistance of the fascists, landed on the enemy coast in the area of ​​Stanichka, formed and held a bridgehead, which was called the "Lesser Land".

When I worked as a journalist in those parts, I had a chance to visit many houses of collective farmers and residents of Natalyevsky, Nosovsky settlements, and in almost every house I saw a person in the form of a Russian sailor in an album or in a frame on the wall. Among them are a lot of marines.

Remember our people and those who defended or liberated the Don villages and farms. The marines of 1941-1942 in the fall and winter of the Taganrog-Pokrovsk offensive operation of the Red Army are especially memorable.

Unfortunately, these memories are bleak, in them the pain and grief associated with the huge losses of these courageous, loyal oath of Russian soldiers.

Mariya Polikarpovna Volvaka, a resident of Vodino farm, recalled, in her marriage Zhertovskaya: “With black clouds, smeared with mud and drowning in an impassable earthen mess, through minefields, without reconnaissance and artillery support, with rifles at the ready, they marched against enemy tanks and assault guns, machine guns and flamethrowers covered with steel caps. ”

Aleksey Tryanovsky recalls: “I personally often had to be near in battle with the Marines. And every time I was amazed at their perseverance and courage. It was also in the Pinsk swamps during Operation Bagration in 1944, and during the storming of the Brest Fortress, along and across the canal cut by the waters of Mukhovtsa. For capturing the fortress, our 127 cavalry regiment received the name "Brest" and thanks to the Supreme Commander (order of the Supreme Command from July 28 of 1944 of the year). "

Quite a few Don recruits today go to serve in the Marine Corps units of the Black Sea Fleet. Many have already served and proved themselves fighting valor in the "hot spots". From the village of Sambek, sailor Denis Kovalyov participated and distinguished himself in battles during the Georgian-Ossetian conflict, a resident of Botsmanovo village, senior sergeant Sergei Kubakov, a participant in battles against terrorists in the North Caucasus, sergeant Alexander Trubitsyn (the Golden Scythe farm), sailor Igor Tokmachev (Efremovka farm) distinguished himself in battles with gangsters; wounded; senior sergeant Alexander Nikitin (Sinyavka village) took part in battles with gangsters in Dagestan and Chechnya, sergeant Vitaly Tkachev (Fedorovka village) fought in the Caucasus. Most recently, marines senior sailor Sergey Kushnarev, Vladimir Karpenko, and sailor Alexander Chulanov returned home from service.



There are no women among them. And during the Great Patriotic War, there was no one, except for the unique, unique destiny of Evdokia Zavaliy, who was the only war in the history of the marines, went through the whole war with them, commanded a unit and returned home four times wounded and with white cranes - all this she was predicted by her grandmother. Evdokia died in May 2010 of the year and did not see what is happening now in Ukraine.
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  1. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 30 December 2015 07: 41
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    It appears from the article that the marines went from the Zaporizhzhya Cossacks smile Sorry, Polina, but I didn’t like the article, some kind of messy.
    1. BMP-2
      BMP-2 30 December 2015 10: 47
      +5
      What do Cossacks and Marine Corps have in common? Elementary: there were no women among them! (Well, with rare exceptions, of course :). laughing

      Thank you, Polina, for a very subtle New Year's humor! Happy New Year to you!
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 30 December 2015 22: 54
      +2
      Quote: Grigorievich
      article did not like, some kind of messy.

      Yes, the article is agitprop, albeit with a pretense of patriotism, but there are more storytellers even without Polina.
      Particularly impressed by the pearls on the Zaporozhye "pivodni chavni", and the description of the "black clouds" going to tanks and armored caps ...
    3. gusev_sa
      gusev_sa 31 December 2015 17: 00
      +1
      You did not understand. The text is placed here for the sake of this pearl:
      "A resident of the Vodino farm Maria Polikarpovna Volvaka, married Zhertovskaya, recalled:" Black clouds, smeared with mud and drowning in an impassable earthy mess, through minefields, without reconnaissance and artillery support, with rifles at the ready, they went against enemy tanks and assault machine guns and flamethrowers with steel caps.
      OBS (one grandmother said), the degree of anti-Sovietism on this "patriotic site" is simply off scale, the struggle for grants is escalating.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 30 December 2015 08: 05
    +3
    Pauline, plus put for the Marine Corps ... But not for the Cossacks-submariners .. smile ..In childhood, they played on the banks of the Kuban, in the Cossacks-robbers .. Hid in a boat .. on top of the other lay .. We didn’t find ourselves .. but surrendered ourselves .. for a long time could not stand .. although there were cracks .. and good ..
    Happy New Year ..
    1. gaura
      gaura 30 December 2015 14: 27
      +2
      Add here what they need to row, to do physical work. In general, oxygen is not enough :)
  3. Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 30 December 2015 08: 21
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    Cossacks are related to the Marine Corps?))) Author! Please define there our Russian freelance ushkuyniks too. Why are they not marines?))) 1181. From the wiki "Taking of the Cheremis town of Koksharov (now Kotelnich, Kirov region) [6].
    1187 year. Novgorod earlings together with the Karelians attacked the ancient capital of Sweden - the city of Sigtuna (about 30 km north of modern Stockholm). The Russian landing party thoroughly ravaged and plundered the city, which after this attack permanently lost its capital functions [7].
    1193 year. A army led by governor Yadrei left Veliky Novgorod for Ugra (Zauralie) in search of silver and furs, who was defeated there by local tribes, including due to the betrayal of a certain Savka, a representative of private Novgorod entrepreneurs who “exchanged guards with Prince Yugorsky” [ 8] [9] [10].
    1318 year. Rooks and ushkui passed to the Abo-Åland skerries and climbed the “Full River” (Aurajoki) to the city of Abo (now the city of Turku) - the then capital of Finland. The Vatican church tax was collected, collected for 5 years. As stated in the annals, "come to Novgorod all health" (military historian Shirokorad, Alexander Borisovich).
    1320 and 1323 Ushkuyniki attacked the Norwegians (in retaliation), destroying the Finnmark and Kholugaland region (Norwegian sources also mention the Karelian raid). Norwegian rulers turned to the papal throne for help. A similar impact on the Swedes forced the latter to accelerate the signing of a compromise Orekhovets peace with Novgorod. The Swedes wars over the lands of Veliky Novgorod temporarily stopped.
    1349 year. This was followed by a sea voyage of ushkuyniks to the province of Halogaland, during which the strongly fortified Bjärköy castle (Nor. Bjarkøy - Birch Island) was taken.
    1360 year. Ushkuyniki, having sailed down the Volga, made their first raids on the Horde city of Zhukotin (near modern Chistopol) on the river. Kame and killed the Tatars.
    1363 year. Trekking to Western Siberia, to the Ob River, under the command of Governor Alexander Abakunovich and Stepan Lyapa. Most likely, the campaign is related to an attempt to free their comrades who were sold as slaves.
    1366 year.
    1369 year. Hiking on the river. Volga and Kame.
    1369-1370 Ushkuyns took Kostroma and Yaroslavl. "
    1370 year. Hiking on the Volga River.
    1374 year. Hike on 90 ears. The third time they took the city of Bolgar (near Kazan), then went down and took Sarai itself - the capital of the Golden Horde .; part of ushkunikov descended to the south, another went east; This year, Ushkuyniki founded the town of Khlynov (Vyatka);
    1375 year. Under the command of Prokop, ushkuyniki, out of 1500 attackers, defeated the five thousandth army of the Kostroma governor Pleshcheyev and captured Kostroma, where they rested for a while. Having rested for a couple of weeks in Kostroma, the ear-buds moved down the Volga. By tradition, they paid a “visit” to the cities of Bolgar and Saray-Berke. The rulers of Bolgar, taught by bitter experience, paid off a large tribute, but the khan's capital Sarai-Berke was stormed and plundered. From 1360 to 1375, the ushkuynsky made eight large trips to the Middle Volga, not counting small raids.
    1391 year. Trekking to Zhukotin. “Novgorodians and Ustyuzhans and other people who came out in the nasadeh and in the ears with the river Vyatka down.” 1409. Voivode Anfal raided more than 250 ears in the Volga and Kama.
    1436 year. At the mouth of Kotorosl, forty Vyatchans ushkuiniks managed to capture the Yaroslavl prince Alexander Fedorovich, nicknamed the Bryukhaty. 1471. Ushkuinichi raids include the successful campaign of the Vyatchans with the governor Kostya Yuriev in 1471 to the capital of the Golden Horde Sarai. "
    Everything is not included.))))
    1. Riv
      Riv 30 December 2015 09: 36
      +6
      And if you think so: Rurik associates also in Russia not on catamarans rented from the Papuans sailed. Yes, and Oleg didn’t bring his squad near Tsargrad to hang gliders ...

      But about the Cossacks in the submarines pinned. Neighing in the morning. And Ukrainians believe ... :)))
      1. BMP-2
        BMP-2 30 December 2015 10: 42
        +7
        Quote: Riv
        But about the Cossacks in the submarines pinned. Neighing in the morning. And Ukrainians believe ... :)))


        And every second also saw it himself (not talking about those who personally sailed :)! laughing
        1. Riv
          Riv 30 December 2015 13: 59
          +2
          I thought, Cho ... If you fill a sort of submarine with fart gas, you get the most natural airship. It will be possible to drop landing on Turkish ships. And then the airship itself will crash from above and the khan to the Turks.
  4. alexej123
    alexej123 30 December 2015 10: 02
    +5
    The article put a plus precisely for the Marine Corps. I don’t want to minus, the author nevertheless worked. But I agree, with such conclusions we will soon be holding on to the fact that the Cossacks dug up the Black Sea. The founder of the Marine Corps, in my opinion, Peter 1. Polina, what Zaporizhzhya Cossacks were there? They just robbed at that time.
  5. bbss
    bbss 30 December 2015 10: 33
    +3
    Holiday greetings! But don't write about "underwater boats" anymore. This way at least.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 30 December 2015 11: 47
      +3
      Quote: bbss
      But don't write about "underwater boats" anymore.

      It was not a "submarine" in the literal sense of the word. There was only one boat, turned upside down by the keel, loaded with ballast to the state of "zero buoyancy." The air supply in the cavity was intended for a SHORT-TERM travel to covertly cross the open water space controlled by the enemy. If Tatar -Turkish patrol from a felucca controls the bay-how to secretly get close? With a reed in your mouth? The Turks are also not fools, why would a dozen reeds sail straight to their ship? But here's what the Cossacks have to do with the marines-kill-I don't understand. Only that they seized the Turkish-Tatar coastal cities by sudden amphibious assault forces? So even the ancient Vikings did this too. And the ancient Novgorodians. And the "prophetic" Oleg seized Constantinople by storm, leading his squad by sea. They are all marines. laughing ?
  6. Lanista
    Lanista 30 December 2015 11: 49
    +3
    I would like to remind you that today's Ukrainians are not the descendants of the Zaporozhye Cossacks. The Zaporozhye Cossacks left for the Don after Catherine's decree on the dissolution of the Sich, so that their descendants are the Don and Kuban Cossacks. Modern Ukrainians (namely, Ukrainians, not Ukrainianized Russians) are the descendants of those inhabitants of the Dnieper region who constituted "legal prey" for the slave traders in Turkey.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 30 December 2015 13: 43
      +7
      Lanista "The Zaporozhye Cossacks left for the Don after Catherine's decree on the dissolution of the Sich."
      They left for Kuban and Taman and founded the Black Sea army. Then the Don moved to the Kuban line and they founded a linear army. And together they formed the Kuban Cossack army in 1860. Don Cossacks and their army from the Cossacks did not occur.
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 30 December 2015 18: 34
      +1
      Quote: Lanista
      Modern Ukrainians (namely, Ukrainians, not Ukrainianized Russians) are the descendants of those inhabitants of the Dnieper region who constituted "legal prey" for the slave traders in Turkey.

      Your knowledge of history in this area deserves a solid "1" on a 5-point scale. "Legal" prey of Tatar Ludwigs was made up by the inhabitants of present-day Poland, Ukraine and Russia. Present-day Ukrainians cannot be descendants of Ukrainian Cossacks due to the fact that these Cossacks were people of the people, who inhabited the lands of modern Ukraine in those days, and not vice versa. After Catherine's decree and Potemkin's betrayal against the Sich, the Cossacks went not to the Don, but beyond the Danube, where they "beat their foreheads" to the Turkish Sultan. On the Danube, another of the "slashes" "-Zadunaiskaya. In the Kuban and Taman, the Black Sea army was organized a few years after the pogrom of the Zaporozhye Sich by the same Potemkin from the remnants of the Cossacks who fled to their farmsteads.
      1. co-creator
        co-creator 3 January 2016 10: 21
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        Quote: revnagan
        Your knowledge of history in this area deserves a solid "1" on a 5-point scale.

        You generally can’t write about history, but you still give ratings.
        Quote: revnagan
        . Present Ukrainians cannot be descendants of Ukrainian Cossacks due to the fact that these Cossacks were descendants of the people who inhabited the lands of modern Ukraine at that time, and not vice versa

        Zaporozhye Cossacks have always distinguished themselves from the inhabitants of the Dnieper region. On campaigns, the Cossacks buried their own in a separate grave. This is who. whose descendants. Well, the seches themselves came from people whom Gogol described well in "Taras Bulba", read.
        There were also Cherkasy or Little Russian Cossacks who lived on both sides of the Dnieper and in fact were peasants from whom they recruited registered Cossacks. These people are the basis of modern Ukrainians.
        Quote: revnagan
        Potemkin's betrayal of Sich

        Potemkin could only betray the one to whom he had taken the oath, that is, Catherine or RI. How could he betray Sich if she swore allegiance to Catherine? If the military (Cossacks) do not follow orders, then this is a riot that must be suppressed. Take the oath, serve. Violated, keep the answer. You have not been told about this?
        Quote: revnagan
        After Catherine's decree, the Cossacks went not to the Don, but beyond the Danube, where they "beat the head" to the Turkish Sultan. On the Danube, another of the "slashes" was organized - Zadunayskaya

        Cossacks divided. Some went to the Danube to the Turks, but most of them remained to serve and live in the Republic of Ingushetia on new lands.
        Quote: revnagan
        .In the Kuban and Taman, the Black Sea army was organized several years after the pogrom of the Zaporizhzhya section by the same Potemkin from the remnants of the Cossacks who fled to their farms.

        Catherine gave a letter to the Cossacks to own land with the Kuban River. The banners of all the smokers, the mace were returned to the Sechiveks, but they were not allowed to take the previous name. They are the heirs of the Cossacks. As the companion correctly wrote, a part of the Donets were also resettled to the Kuban. Then, when a systematic struggle with the highlanders began, all Cossacks were given the name Kuban Cossacks.
        By the way, the Transdanubians almost all swore allegiance to Nicholas I during the Russian-Turkish war and first moved to the area of ​​modern Berdyansk, and then to the Kuban.

        Here is such a true story of Zaporizhzhya Cossacks.
  7. Silhouette
    Silhouette 30 December 2015 12: 00
    +3
    For grandchildren or great-grandchildren of younger preschool age, such an article is quite suitable. But maybe it would still be better about Baba Yaga? (The question is also about the management of the site)
    1. Evrepid
      Evrepid 30 December 2015 13: 14
      +2
      The author tried to write what she thought. Thank you for that.
      About coupled boats .. Well, so-so ... Although everything can be ...
      True, I did not understand everything with the physics of the process: We drowned, swam part of the track in a semi-underwater position, how was the load unhooked? how did you open this sandwich? How did you breathe in this cramped volume?
      1. tacet
        tacet 30 December 2015 13: 46
        0
        There it is also written about how they breathed - an air intake shaft to the boat, a guy in the boat (do not feed peas) looks after the situation, he apparently saws off the ballast if necessary (though after this action both "seagulls" will float slightly tilted 90 degrees)
        1. Evrepid
          Evrepid 30 December 2015 16: 52
          +2
          He also hangs the ballast :)
          The gemmed mine! :)
          He also sealed the gaps with sealant :) too much for one ...
  8. tacet
    tacet 30 December 2015 13: 36
    +4
    The article is an insult to the species Homo sapiens.
    A person who is familiar with arithmetic can calculate the speed of a "seagull" (under ideal conditions), namely 700 km (Kherson-Istanbul) / 36 hours = 20 km / h or 10-11 knots (directly a drakkar for 35 rooms) According to the most optimistic data, the speed " seagulls "10-15 km / h or 5,5 - 8 knots (maximum). Having stuffed 50-70 people on this tub, it could only be used as a vehicle for delivering tourists to the hotel according to the all inclusive system (since there is nowhere to put the loot or losses in the raid should be 50%, and on the way to the Turkish coast, you want to eat and drink). Well, on the topic of the underwater use of this "vessel", not a single shipbuilder will even talk to you.
    They made raids on Turkish lands on this vessel, but not on the coast of Asia Minor, but on the territory of modern Odessa region and Crimea, the Romanian coast maximum. Yes, and the crew couldn’t make up 50-70 people, rather 30-35.
    1. Riv
      Riv 30 December 2015 16: 27
      -1
      For homo sapiens, yes. But for ukrov it will completely pass for history. As the Russian proverb says: for nightlessness and ass - nightingale, and for light-heartedness and fist - blonde.
  9. andrew42
    andrew42 30 December 2015 14: 25
    +1
    The Marines are, first of all, the troops of the ABORGE battle. As far as I know, the question of such soldiers was still under Ivan the Terrible, on a temporary exit to the Baltic. But he made up his mind systematically under Peter Alekseich. The crowds of raiders plundering the coast and fleeing to the ships have nothing to do with the Marine Corps. Although they have in history the skills of naval (!) Battles, but this is a kmb for any "pirate" with minimal requirements.
    1. Riv
      Riv 30 December 2015 16: 29
      +3
      KO as it hints: since the 20th century, there have been no recorded cases of boarding between warships. Apparently the Marine Corps is already 100 years old, as it is not needed ... :(
  10. a housewife
    a housewife 30 December 2015 15: 37
    +4
    "clinging to shaggy algae" laughing yeah, and overgrown with shells wassat .Moreover, there were 50-70 people in the boats, and they dragged her in 300 each ?! From five or six boats, everyone dragged one, then the second, then and so on. How many kilometers, how long did one boat take? And at 5-6? And if there were at least 50 of them? Sevastopol. The Germans passed the machine-gun nest because there were more of them? Than bullets, or what? The Germans did not shoot, they just walked and passed. The dead man stabbed him in the back, ran, stepped on a mine, flew into the air, rolled over, fell, jumped up and disappeared into the trench! Super!!! You should write fairy tales, but you need to know the measure in fairy tales! Read and listen to these foreigners - we are aliens in general. Did Kunikov pick up local fishermen and merchant sailors in the reconciliation? Shaw there for the merchant fleet in the peace? When did he get them there? Generally, you take a fisherman, straight from the underwater cholna, put on a pea jacket, and now he is a Marine, whom all enemies are afraid of. And in general - even a couple of lines about the landing should be written correctly. Read literature. 700 people were able to do what two divisions could not do with the support of fifty ships of the Black Sea Fleet ?! And what exactly? Why couldn't they? I know this, but an unknowing person will learn from your article about this? That fishermen in sea uniform took the city of Novorossiysk by storm? And the biggest hero is Stepanenko from Pokrovsky. Because from Pokrovsky? And there were many heroes. All who were there are heroes. Yes, and Brezhnev too. Have you heard of Kaida? A man-hero! Monuments to the "Unknown Sailor" and "Sailor with a Grenade" (Defense Line of Malaya Zemlya) in Novorossiysk - they were sculpted from it! And they also learned that you worked as a journalist in those parts and visited the houses of the Natalievsky and Nosovsky settlements. According to the text, it turns out that these settlements are in the city of Novorossiysk, and these are completely different places, this must be written to make it clear. Your Russian language is not good. And the history is not good enough - such articles cannot be written at a gallop across Europe.
    1. Riv
      Riv 30 December 2015 16: 30
      +4
      No. The biggest hero is Petro Poroshenko. Man and chocolate.
  11. holding
    holding 30 December 2015 19: 30
    0
    Bullshit.
  12. nord62
    nord62 30 December 2015 21: 49
    +1
    Let this article not shine with a serious historical analysis, which is so adored by the "residents of this site", but its meaning does not suffer from this - MARINE DOESN'T KNOW LESS! That is the point of the article. And if the task is set, then it must be completed AT ANY COST. And it is not a fairy tale that the enemy ALWAYS, only at the mention that "BLACK DEATH" stands against him, has panic in his ranks. I know, because I went through this school on my own skin, having received pride in the USSR Navy for life, as well as the ability not to give up, no matter what tricks life builds. And there is no need to laugh at the author - today, for the purpose of patriotic education of young people, so that they do not become admirers of mattress mats and liberals, do not become en masse freaks like dill, such legends VERY NEEDED ! It's my opinion! hi
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 31 December 2015 00: 31
      +1
      If you write substandard articles for the purposes of patriotic education of youth, the opposite effect will be obtained. Both our army in general and the marines in particular deserve a much more serious attitude. Respect and pride. I was born and raised in Novorossiysk, lived on Malaya Zemlya, where trenches are still visible on the shore. There is a story on every street. This is beyond words. It was all brought up by the city itself.
  13. Severok01
    Severok01 31 December 2015 00: 48
    +1
    Tale about Zaporozhtsev really liked))
  14. Gaersul
    Gaersul 31 December 2015 17: 39
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    And we got to the Marine Corps. I won’t be surprised if an article soon appears that the Cossacks laid the foundation for strategic aviation, or what is there - we will take it higher, immediately the VKS. (Not plus or minus the article, yet about the Marine Corps is not badly written).
    PS About ushkuynikov in the comments a good mention. :)
  15. Andrey Draganov
    Andrey Draganov 31 December 2015 20: 21
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    Something Ukrainian did not remember about hohlopodlodka of that time as she missed this moment, it is not clear)))
  16. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 January 2016 15: 31
    +1
    Polina! You have been advised more than once not to write about subjects that you do not know and do not respect.
    "Before the Great Patriotic War, there was one naval brigade in the Soviet Union (in the Baltic Fleet). And even that, due to the lack of practice of using it in battle, was transformed into an ordinary rifle unit, and then disappeared without a trace." There would be a desire and the 1st brigade would be found at least in the Vekipedia, perhaps in 5 minutes, and it turned out that it would have been disbanded in November 41, the loss of HP.
    Feeding trough, understand. The glory of journalists seduces, of course. But you need to work not only on your face, but on the material. It turned out that the past of the brigade kicked, and through this the USSR Armed Forces.
    Submarine. I’ll try to explain in a language that is understandable to you. When you cut a rag, you use a pattern, a pattern. But it is not possible to sew two identical products. It pulled, zagrochit here, wrinkles ... And the size of the product is just a meter. Two boats will differ not by plus / minus bast shoes, but by a meter with hook, both in length and in width. And you’ll sort out a hundred gulls, not dock them. Well, did you have to ride a boat assembled from rails at 16? Mentally overturn one and lay with a slice on the other. You get two points of contact: nose and feed.
    Rowing under water. Reliable cases are known in history. See US Civil War, but distance ...

    Quote: Silhouette
    For grandchildren or great-grandchildren of younger preschool age, such an article is quite suitable. But maybe it would still be better about Baba Yaga? (The question is also about the management of the site)

    Strongly against. Tales must be written with love, but here it is not.
  17. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 January 2016 16: 27
    +1
    "During the war, detachments and battalions of marines began to emerge on their own during the heroic defense of Odessa. The Black Sea sailors, left without ships, took rifles and went to defend their beloved city together with ground troops."
    "The formation of units and formations of the marines was carried out both as part of the fleets and flotillas, and as part of the operational-strategic formations of the ground forces."
    Pay attention military units do not arise, like acne, but are formed according to the order and will of the higher command. Well, by golly, about Suvorov and Nakhimov’s you are better at it.
  18. Stilet
    Stilet 2 January 2016 21: 00
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    The author took two objects in one hand. repeat I pulled it by the ears so to speak. And what about the Kalmyk irregular cavalry of the time of Alexander the Great - are they the progenitors of the air defense and strategic missile forces? Bow and arrows - Strela-2 and S-300.
  19. Allax
    Allax 4 January 2016 14: 55
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    In the article about the Zaporizhzhya fleet, something does not converge. Let's start with the seagulls. How could 18-4 people fit on an 50 * 70 meter ship? This is a little more than a square meter per person - even in the concentration camps the cameras were not so densely packed! I'm not talking about the fact that such a seagull would simply not withstand the flow of people and would sink.
    With a wooden submarine - generally tin!
  20. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 January 2016 16: 11
    +1
    That you respected have taken in terms of a rectangle, but in general somewhere around 2 you need to divide. therefore, the Cossack submariners had a better time. Someone suggested a restriction in food, smoking, dancing and other excesses.