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Alexander Prokhanov: "Russia has a special mission"


The main laureate of the “Shield and Sword of the Fatherland” award 2015 of the year answered questions from the editorial board of the newspaper “VPK”.

- Alexander Andreevich, a writer sees something that mere mortals do not see. The Soviet Union was a great country, but we were defeated. And the whole XX century for the country was full of trials - the destruction of the Russian Empire, the Civil War, the Great Patriotic War, repressions, broken destinies ... Tell me, please, what did we do wrong? Why did the Russian people have such shocks?

Development guard- It история, we do not understand its tasks and its meaning. The fate of Russia can only be assessed by religious consciousness. Social, ideological or political consciousness will not fully understand this. Only religious, which can be found confirmation in our monasteries, in the teachings and reflections of our righteous and elders. It tells us that the mission of Russia is to take on world darkness and transform it into light. Russia is a gigantic, conceived by the Lord factory for recycling of world waste, spiritual and moral. Therefore, this darkness is falling on our country - whether it be Stefan Batory, the Livonian Order, Napoleon, Hitler or the current Western armada. All this falls upon Russia, avenging that it lives with divine dreams - about eternal justice, about beauty. And we keep these blows, because this is what we have been created for. You listen to others - everything is simple: let's give up our mission, our large spaces, our history, the army, our defense industry complex, our historical objectives. Let's give Siberia, the Arctic (there is one ice in the same place!), The Caucasus, we will remain in a small territory in the Vologda village and live as never before!

But we, thank God, will not do this. We will continue to stand, leaning with one foot on the Pacific, and the other on the Arctic Ocean, so Russia is doomed to these battles.

- The abyss into which Russia fell in the 90s is still close. Is our political leadership aware of this? If so, why not give the command "stop"?

- Our political leadership is partly composed of those who pushed us into this abyss. Moreover, it still keeps us in this abyss. If you watch television, you see how much poison is poured into the soul, so that we will not see the light and will not revolt, so that we will forever lie in this stupor. But development will come anyway, it is inevitable. The 90 were years of disaster. Over the years, the military-industrial complex and the entire Soviet technosphere were exterminated, consciously or unconsciously. This technosphere has suffered terribly and could have been wiped off the face of the earth.

- What was the salvation of industrial Russia?

- There were those who kept the main shrines and valuables. They were engineers, designers, directors, heads of special departments who saved secrets, technologies, and did not let the teams collapse. They invented thousands of ways, but defended, retained the defense industry of the country. During the war, it was like this: the regiment was being smashed, the entire force was beaten out, and the wounded commander was draped into a bloody banner and carried him to his own. And then this banner becomes the banner of a new regiment, gathers around it new heroes. Therefore, the old people who are now 70 and who do not leave are the real heroes of our Fatherland. The second generation, those who are now 50, are strong people, techies who know their own worth. They are aware of the situation, they see all the dangers that hang over the country, all the challenges. They make the technique based on new technologies, from new means of warfare, from new tactical and technical data. And cope with the challenges of time. We had to buy machines, when not all the equipment could be bought - we simply did not sell much. And in a roundabout way, through third countries they equipped their enterprises with first-class equipment and created weapon, which is now winning in Syria, causing admiration of the world. These are those whom I call the development guard, because Russia is pretty lagging behind and needs a powerful leap, we need those to rely on. Of course, I mean, first of all, serious army men, intelligent and trained employees of special services, military technocrats, also intellectuals, writers, patriotic clergy.

And the third, the youngest generation of manufacturers. Nowadays, more often young people go where big money is: in trade, in the service sector. But those who came to the factories, they were captivated not by their salary, not by the opportunity to show off, they were struck by the beauty of this technique and the perception of accomplishments. These are the chosen people. At the Energomash plant, you need to see the faces of the young, first-time supermotors in the museum! Because they become fans of this technique. These are three generations, these are three categories of heroes, and it is extremely interesting to describe them, because there is a complex relationship between them, a very complex interaction. But they must be understood heroically. There is prose - someone drinks, divorced his wife, someone entered into an intrigue with the boss, someone turned out to be unclean, this is human, human. But there is a messianic in them and this is the main thing.

- But what about the generational conflict, when young people deny what the previous generation did?

“There are no generational conflicts here, because there is a gigantic gap between the old people and the youth, when people left the factories and the institutes did not train specialists of the required profile. And this gap is felt painfully both by the old production workers and their replacement. The youth literally sucks the knowledge, ethics out of old people ... There is no generation gap, there is their synthesis. Synthesis is a submarine, a plane or a volley fire system, something that all generations of techies are currently doing together.

- That is, this is a topic for the writer? "Romance boring machine"?

“The romance is connected with the fact that any complex production is a supercar that can make even more complex machines — an airplane, an early warning system, a satellite ... In the same way, the state is a supermachine. And the artist is interested in drawing these cars, it is sweet for him to delve into their depths, how these cars arise and how they burn in the complex layers of the historical Russian time ... The machine needs an artist to inspire it. An uninspired machine that the finger of the creator, musician, or writer has not touched can cause a lot of mischief, it can destroy humanity.

The sunset literature of the USSR wrote peasant life, sadness over the disappeared village, or sang a longing song of the intelligentsia that Stalin repressed, beat the Soviet state. Perhaps only Platonov, in his “Birth of the Master”, inspired the machine as a living tree, he treated the machine as if it were life - and in fact the development of the machine increasingly brings it closer to something alive, feeling, sobbing. Bunin has a wonderful story “The Lord from San Francisco,” where he described this car, the life of these ship furnaces, connecting rods, this breath. In our literature, this is not enough. And now this task is worth it, because it is a philosophical and artistic task, because it is very difficult to write a car. Russian literature has little experience in describing cars, it has a wonderful experience in describing the landscape and nature, a delightful experience in describing the human soul, psychological relationships, and describe the car, describe the portrait of the state as a whole ... Charge any writer to describe the battle of fourth or fifth generation fighters in the air - no one does not write, can not, this is a special element. These are special worlds, there is a special sparkle, special energies, beauty and horror of this fight. Therefore, to write about the technosphere is a great courage and great temptation. The writer who undertakes to describe the shop of the Severodvinsk plant, where the next “Yuri Dolgoruky” stands, must understand that the workshop is the same jungle filled with trees, birds, the breath of winds. It is important to feel it.

And I think that this huge machine, called the military-industrial complex, calls to itself - and the artists go to call. She tells the writers: “Come, I will show you a landscape that you cannot see on the street of the city.” Therefore, this “Shield and Sword of the Fatherland” award is the call and that pipe with which the defense industry complex informs us that we are here, go here. That is the meaning of this award and award, it means that an artist was found who was able to respond to this call. The defense industrial complex did not reject his writings.
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  1. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 December 2015 19: 07 New
    +9
    Without a powerful military-industrial complex in the modern immoral world, it is difficult to prove that you are right. Just like a lock on a door for "honest" people, and a powerful weapon for the same!
    1. iouris
      iouris 25 December 2015 19: 24 New
      +5
      There is no need to prove anything. It is necessary to develop technologically. In this joint-stock world based on private property, technologies are created in the military-industrial complex, that is, at the expense of the whole society. This is the contradiction between the social mode of production and the capitalist form of appropriation: there is a nationalization of debts.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 25 December 2015 20: 02 New
      10
      Excuse me, but I do not like Prokhanov, too much trembling in the style of artsy monograms, when it is worth saying specifically and in the case. request
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 25 December 2015 20: 43 New
        +3
        Only one thing is bad: our government is on the side of the enemy. It is only because of him that Russia has not yet regained the title of superpower. Because of him, the impoverished oil colony in the backyards is ecumene.
        1. Nick
          Nick 25 December 2015 22: 24 New
          +4
          Quote: Basarev
          Only one thing is bad: our government is on the side of the enemy. It is only because of him that Russia has not yet regained the title of superpower. Because of him, the impoverished oil colony in the backyards is ecumene.

          You have gone too far. Nevertheless, we do not live in Ukraine. This is where the government really plays against the people on the side of the enemy. Actually, it, the government of Ukraine, is appointed by this adversary.
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 25 December 2015 22: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: Nick
            You have gone too far. Nevertheless, we do not live in Ukraine. This is where the government really plays against the people on the side of the enemy.

            You are a pretty penny!
            our government is exactly for the people for the people.
            Quote: Nick
            . Actually, it, the government of Ukraine, is appointed by this adversary.

            It is good that our government, even if not in adquat, but its own "native".
            This is where the feces are bad, but everything is fine with us, we have already sold by education, with medecine in the first places, and we sold grain at 20 lard, we have economic growth, they steal less from us, we don’t cut down the taiga and we still have nano chubais.
            1. Nick
              Nick 27 December 2015 14: 44 New
              +1
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              You are a pretty penny!
              our government is exactly for the people for the people.

              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              It is good that our government, even if not in adquat, but its own "native".
              This is where the feces are bad, but everything is fine with us, we have already sold by education, with medecine in the first places, and we sold grain at 20 lard, we have economic growth, they steal less from us, we don’t cut down the taiga and we still have nano chubais.

              Yes, you have verbal diarrhea. stop
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 26 December 2015 04: 37 New
          +3
          Quote: Basarev
          Only one thing is bad: our government is on the side of the enemy.

          This is a dope laughing
          Could you be more specific names, surnames, appearances, ranks, flags? lol
          Before writing this, please turn off the "fool". And then the floor of the site from laughter fell under the table lol
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 27 December 2015 13: 41 New
            +1
            Quote: GSH-18
            Could you be more specific names, surnames, appearances, ranks, flags?

            Kaneshno can fellow
            Turn on the TV, sit back and watch carefully drinks
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      2. Nick
        Nick 25 December 2015 22: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Excuse me, but I do not like Prokhanov, too much trembling in the style of artsy monograms, when it is worth saying specifically and in the case. request

        He is a creator, writer, and not a master of the stamping section. Prokhanov expresses his thoughts very interestingly, filling them with a religious, mystical spirit.
        1. EvgNik
          EvgNik 26 December 2015 06: 11 New
          0
          Quote: Nick
          Prokhanov expresses his thoughts very interestingly, filling them with a religious, mystical spirit.

          And before he was a communist (and even now he is) and stood on a solid materialistic basis. In general, the phenomenon is almost common for very elderly people who are afraid to sink into nothing. I want to go to paradise, to the guria.
          1. Nick
            Nick 27 December 2015 22: 58 New
            0
            Quote: EvgNik
            And before he was a communist (and even now he is) and stood on a solid materialistic basis.

            I don’t know what he was standing on, and being a communist in the CPSU of the 80’s was very risky, because the vast majority there were MEMBERS of the party, which were essentially anti-communists. They then led the USSR to collapse
      3. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 26 December 2015 00: 49 New
        +1
        It used to be ideological. Now he is on the principle of a weather vane.
      4. avia1991
        avia1991 26 December 2015 01: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: GSH-18
        I do not like Prokhanov, too much trembling

        Flag in hand, do not love.
        Quote: GSH-18
        when to say specifically and in the case
        , then you need to contact the engineer, technologist, master. And when you need to raise the Spirit, open the eyes of the worker to the beauty and greatness of his work - Your "concretely" will not work, because it carries neither enthusiasm nor romance - only standard commands. And this is not that, not that-oh .. and so the inspiration to LIVE is lacking!
        Writers Needed - REQUIRED! Just so that a person understands: his cause deserves to be proud of him!
        Otherwise, it will continue to crowd young people into "DEFECTIVE managers" .. which will soon have SOMEONE to manage, except for the same defective.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 26 December 2015 02: 25 New
          +3
          You can be proud when you know for sure that your work will benefit people. But when you know that there are seven with a spoon above you, then your reason for pride somehow diminishes.
          1. Ruswolf
            Ruswolf 26 December 2015 07: 11 New
            +1
            Mordvin 3
            You can be proud when you know for sure that your work will benefit people .....

            Unfortunately, Vladimir!
            Today they are proud not of what and how you are doing, but of their salary! which you receive, and no matter how and where.
            And before they stood, but the work and its result was in the first place. Therefore, they developed, because as a result, everyone and the bosses were interested. And salary was not an indicator (well, not counting bonuses).
            Life principles unfortunately have changed for many.
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          3. avia1991
            avia1991 26 December 2015 12: 23 New
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            You can be proud when you know for sure

            And when you don’t know ?! And no one to explain?
            Everyone says: "You have to!" To whom, for what? ...
            And the writer says: "LOOK! THIS is what you are doing!" And draws a picture that will take your breath away!
            You see, I'm not saying how good everything is - it will not be true. But if we argue that writing is TREP (not about "tabloid" literature) - then we come to the conclusion that Sholokhov, Mikhalkov, Leonov, etc. must be erased from memory! And the books - burn! It’s better to read the instructions for completing the work, right ?!
            We already have a level of morality in society (not to mention knowledge of our native language!) Below the plinth. And if you do not listen to the Writers, do not read their works - there we will remain. hi
  2. Vadim237
    Vadim237 25 December 2015 19: 09 New
    +1
    Artists in the military-industrial complex are not needed - there are enough of their own - these arts are still being scattered.
    1. Boos
      Boos 25 December 2015 19: 13 New
      +3
      I agree with you, there is a lot of pathos in the article. I read it and I think ... How can a scientist be religious? An inquiring mind has always denied priestly.
      Quote: Vadim237
      Artists in the military-industrial complex are not needed - there are enough of their own - these arts are still being scattered.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 December 2015 19: 25 New
        +1
        It’s better for them to go into architecture and mule there.
        1. Altona
          Altona 25 December 2015 19: 45 New
          +7
          Quote: Vadim237
          It’s better for them to go into architecture and mule there.

          -----------
          Modern design actually arose from sopromat and material science, when it became possible to create lightweight openwork designs using the calculation method, and modern materials were able to embody the ideas of the designer from both metallic and non-metallic elements. Well, the aesthetic feeling began to make some images out of it.
      2. Lukich
        Lukich 25 December 2015 19: 27 New
        10
        Quote: Boos
        , a lot of pathos in the article.

        he always broadcasts, not speaks
        Quote: Boos
        How can a scholar be religious? An inquiring mind has always denied priestly.

        but just the scientists were very religious before the October coup. and the word "priest's" is not entirely correct in relation to believers, of whom, it seems to me, there are quite a few
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 25 December 2015 19: 31 New
          0
          What was past has passed, and we are moving on.
        2. Boos
          Boos 25 December 2015 19: 32 New
          0
          Christians cannot broadcast, they prophesy. Prophesy Prophesies! Have you heard about Oleg the Prophet?
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 25 December 2015 21: 19 New
            +7
            Quote: Boos
            Christians cannot broadcast, they prophesy

            I'm not talking about prophecy. about his manner of speaking. here he is broadcasting. as if he were the ultimate truth. and I’m not sure that he is a believer.

            Quote: Boos
            Have you heard about Oleg the Prophet?

            Nope. I came from the village on a tram to ride
            1. Boos
              Boos 26 December 2015 07: 31 New
              0
              Appreciated your humor!)))
        3. cap
          cap 25 December 2015 20: 17 New
          +7
          Quote: Lukich
          Quote: Boos
          , a lot of pathos in the article.

          he always broadcasts, not speaks
          Quote: Boos
          How can a scholar be religious? An inquiring mind has always denied priestly.

          but just the scientists were very religious before the October coup. and the word "priest's" is not entirely correct in relation to believers, of whom, it seems to me, there are quite a few

          And in continuation if possible hi :
          The remarkable words belong to M. Lomonosov: “The Creator gave two books to the human race. The first is the visible world ... The second book is the Holy Scriptures ... Both of us confirm us not only in the being of God, but also in His untold good deeds to us. It is a sin to plant tares and discord between them. ” Science and religion “cannot come to a quarrel ... unless, out of some vanity and the testimony of one’s own ingenuity, enmity will be raised against them. ” from the book of professor MDAiS A.I. Osipova "The Path of Reason in Search of Truth"
        4. Wheel
          Wheel 25 December 2015 21: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Lukich
          but just the scientists were very religious until the October Revolution.

          Read biographies of pre-revolutionary scientists, so as not to mess up.
          Relations between scholars and the church have always been, to put it mildly, tense.
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 25 December 2015 21: 29 New
            +3
            Quote: Wheel
            Read biographies of pre-revolutionary scientists, so as not to mess up.
            Relations between scholars and the church have always been, to put it mildly, tense.

            read. read about Lomonosov, Mendeleev and many others.
            1. Wheel
              Wheel 25 December 2015 22: 05 New
              0
              Quote: Lukich
              read. read about Lomonosov, Mendeleev and many others.

              Well, if You so carefully read the biographies of Lomonosov and Mendeleev, then, probably in the know about relations with the Synod of the first and the consequences of the second marriage in the second ...
              And formally, yes, everyone in RI was a believer.
              According to the law of the Russian Empire each citizen of the Orthodox faith was obliged to submit to the relevant state bodies a document issued in the church stating that he (the citizen) at least once a year embarked on the Sacraments of Confession and Communion.
        5. guzik007
          guzik007 25 December 2015 21: 26 New
          +1
          How can a scholar be religious? An inquiring mind has always denied priestly.
          -----------------------------------------------------------------------
          You will be surprised, but many scientists in the field of genetics, molecular biophysics, and cosmogony often come to this thought.
        6. Nick
          Nick 25 December 2015 22: 38 New
          -2
          Quote: Lukich
          the word "priestly" is not entirely correct in relation to believers,

          In Greek, pop translates as father, dad. Popovsky, in Russian you can say fatherly. But for some reason many people put a negative meaning in the word pop.
          1. Wheel
            Wheel 26 December 2015 00: 37 New
            +4
            Quote: Nick
            In Greek, pop translates as father, dad.

            Have you come up with a long time?

            Father in Greek sounds "pateras", if what, and dad - "bapAs".
            And pop, he is in Greece pop.
            1. Nick
              Nick 27 December 2015 15: 05 New
              -1
              Quote: Wheel
              Quote: Nick
              In Greek, pop translates as father, dad.

              Have you come up with a long time?

              Father in Greek sounds "pateras", if what, and dad - "bapAs".
              And pop, he is in Greece pop.

              Do not include idiots.
              These words are synonyms. You can talk dad, you can father, you can, aunt, you can dad, you can father.
      3. Alexei
        Alexei 25 December 2015 19: 39 New
        +6
        Quote: Boos
        How can a scholar be religious?

        Yes easily. I will say more: in the scriptures almost all the discoveries are described, but not in the form of those. descriptions, but in the form of symbolism.
        Revelation 13,4-5, 16-17-18: “And they bowed to the dragon who gave power to the beast ... And a mouth was given to him, speaking proudly and blasphemously ... And he will do what everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slaves, a mark will be placed on their right hand or on their forehead, and that no one will be allowed to buy or sell, except for those who have this mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of its name.
        Scientists are already tearing the cortex, so that whatever you come up with, they have already written about it.
        Quote: Boos
        An inquiring mind has always denied priestly.

        Yes, a different mind denied, not only inquisitive. I believe that the church is needed to prevent public scoffing. After all, people today have almost nothing holy left.
        1. Boos
          Boos 25 December 2015 19: 44 New
          0
          I look, now everything is on the church and holds on? Gundyaev told you that before the baptism the Slavs lived in caves, wore skins and did not have a written language. Religion is opium for the people. Take an interest in who is called the patriarch of Gomor and Sodom ...
          1. Alexei
            Alexei 25 December 2015 21: 11 New
            +6
            Quote: Boos
            I look, now everything is on the church and holds on?

            No, everything now rests on money and the thirst for consumption and striving for the comfort zone. And this should not be so, in the "developed" countries of Western Europe (which have the highest standard of living) are seriously considering the legalization of incest. It was after luxury and comfort that they wanted madness, their roof goes because there is nothing to strive for. We will become like them if nothing unites us.
            Quote: Boos
            Gundyaev told you that before the baptism the Slavs lived in caves, wore skins and did not have a written language.

            No, I study history and alternative (Fomenko), and many other versions. Megalithic structures, various ancient finds, which have no explanation so far ... This is all damn interesting and informative, but we need a church especially now, while hard times and people lose their hearts, we cannot trample our Orthodox.
          2. RUSS
            RUSS 25 December 2015 21: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Boos
            Religion-opium for the people

            You are a wild man and an ignoramus.
          3. EvgNik
            EvgNik 26 December 2015 06: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Boos
            Religion is opium for the people.

            Brief historical background. Opium was used to relieve pain, hence the comparison with religion. This was first said by the Marquis de Sade, though in a different context. Then it was repeated many times by other writers and poets, including Karl Marx and Lenin. It sounded: "the religion of the opium of the people." For the first time, "the religion of opium for the people" sounded in "The Twelve Chairs" by Ilf and Petrov.
          4. Nick
            Nick 27 December 2015 15: 35 New
            0
            Quote: Boos
            Religion-opium for the people

            Atheism is the suicide of a people.
      4. Asadullah
        Asadullah 25 December 2015 20: 02 New
        +5
        An inquiring mind has always denied priestly.


        And where does the faith and "priestly"? An unbeliever is a child who believes the world is sweet. A believing scientist is a person in awe of the power of the Creator, who has touched the subtle mechanisms of the universe. Faith is generally a condition when a person, by the power of his awareness, jumps over both church dogmas and dogmas of atheism. And what is behind the dogma boggles the imagination.
        1. Boos
          Boos 25 December 2015 20: 11 New
          +4
          I am for Faith, but do not replace Faith with religion. Why do you deny Atheism? Belief in one's own strength, without hopes of religion, is worthy of respect.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 25 December 2015 20: 25 New
            -1
            Boos! 20.11. I support with all the limbs! Why is atheist faith denied today? Why today you can’t believe in yourself, but you have to rely on your uncle? Why does prayer bring a piece of sausage, but not work? hi
            1. Lukich
              Lukich 25 December 2015 21: 23 New
              +2
              Quote: Region 34
              Why does prayer bring a piece of sausage, but not work?

              but nowhere is this said. it is said about labor. and faith is spiritual food, not bodily
            2. EvgNik
              EvgNik 26 December 2015 06: 42 New
              +1
              Quote: Region 34
              Why atheist faith is denied today

              Is atheism really a faith? I always thought that it was unbelief, and here you are in old age: get a fascist grenade!
            3. Nick
              Nick 27 December 2015 15: 55 New
              0
              Quote: 34 region
              Boos! 20.11. I support with all the limbs! Why is atheist faith denied today? Why today you can’t believe in yourself, but you have to rely on your uncle? Why does prayer bring a piece of sausage, but not work? hi

              Here is another religious adherent of atheism. And you need to believe in yourself, but faith in yourself does not deny faith in God. And who told you that prayer should bring sausage, but no work? Although there have been cases in history. Remember the manna from heaven. But, nevertheless, do not confuse the spiritual with the modest.
          2. avia1991
            avia1991 26 December 2015 23: 24 New
            0
            belay
            Quote: Boos
            Belief in one's own strength, without hopes of religion, is worthy of respect.
            Wow, sir! .. And there are many of us - those who believe in their strength, without hope for the Highest help? And if YES - why do we live so sadly? And this gap is not visible?
          3. Nick
            Nick 27 December 2015 15: 45 New
            0
            Quote: Boos
            I am for Faith, but do not replace Faith with religion. Why do you deny Atheism? Belief in one's own strength, without hopes of religion, is worthy of respect.

            Faith is already a religion. In your case, the belief in atheism. Note, you write the word "atheism" with a capital letter. By the way, no one denies atheism, there is such a religion and you are one of its adherents.
      5. Nick
        Nick 25 December 2015 22: 34 New
        0
        Quote: Boos
        I agree with you, there is a lot of pathos in the article. I read it and I think ... How can a scientist be religious? An inquiring mind has always denied priestly.

        You are not right. Many scholars are religious people. The scale of their thinking is enough to comprehend and realize the presence of the Creator.
      6. family tree
        family tree 25 December 2015 23: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Boos
        I read it and I think ... How can a scientist be religious?

        Well, offhand, Pavlov Ivan Petrovich, an outstanding physician. Well here, too http://www.scienceandapologetics.org/text/248.htm
        http://iitam.omsk.net.ru/~eremeev/scient_r.htm
        Although, IMHO, Faith and religiosity, the essence is different
        1. family tree
          family tree 26 December 2015 01: 44 New
          0
          -1. (It seems that I will be talented right now)
          smile
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 26 December 2015 01: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: perepilka
            -1. (It seems that I will be talented right now)

            +1 (to hell with you and not talent) tongue drinks
        2. Wheel
          Wheel 26 December 2015 02: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: perepilka
          Well, offhand, Pavlov Ivan Petrovich, an outstanding physician.

          So, offhand, Pavlov’s direct answer to the direct question about his faith:
          “Listen, mister good, as for my religiosity, faith in God, church attendance, it’s all a lie, fiction. I am a seminarian and, like most seminarians, already from school I became an atheist, atheist. I don’t need a god. But man cannot live without faith. He must believe in something. Bolshevik, he believes that communism will give happiness to humanity, if not to himself, then to his children and grandchildren. This faith gives him the strength to endure hunger and cold, fight on the fronts, fight for the victory of the world revolution, die for an idea. A religious person who believes in God is empowered by the belief that there is a supreme judge, just and merciful, who will give him the kingdom of God in the next world for suffering and for righteous deeds. This faith helps him live, endure sorrows, deprivations.

          My faith is the belief that the progress of science will bring happiness to humanity. I believe that the human mind and its highest incarnation - science - will save the human race from disease, from hunger, from hostility, and reduce grief in people's lives. This faith has given me strength and helps me to conduct my work.

          Why do many people think that I am a believer, a believer in a religious sense? Because I am opposed to persecution of the church, of religion. I believe that one cannot take away faith in God without replacing it with another faith. The Bolshevik does not need faith in God, he has another faith - communism. Another faith is brought to people by enlightenment, education; faith in God itself becomes unnecessary. How many educated people believe in God? (Although there are still many believers among them.) It is necessary to enlighten the people earlier, to give them literacy, education, and faith itself will weaken. But it’s impossible to destroy faith in God without replacing it with anything. ” / fund 259, inventory 1 a, storage unit 39./

          Well, with links, not everything is clean.
          The first one contains A. Einstein, who a year before his death clearly said:
          "This is of course a lie that you read about my religious beliefs, a lie that is systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personified God and never denied it, but expressed it clearly. If there is something in me that can be called religious, then this is undoubtedly an unlimited admiration for the structure of the Universe to the extent that science reveals it "
          - Dukas, Helen (1981). Albert Einstein the Human Side. Princeton: Princeton University Press, p. 43. Einstein Archives 59-454 and 59-495
          From the second.
          Charles Darwin:
          "So little by little disbelief crept into my soul, and in the end I became completely unbeliever. But this happened so slowly that I did not feel any upset and never since then, even for a single second, doubted the correctness of my conclusion. And in fact, I can hardly understand how anyone could have wanted the Christian teaching to be true; for if it is, then the plain text [of the Gospel] seems to show that people who do not believe — and that should include my father, my brother, and almost all of my best friends — will suffer eternal punishment. Disgusting teaching! "/ Charles Darwin. Autobiography. /
          And ascribing religiosity to Stephen Hawking - the top of insanity - a more convinced atheist is difficult to find in our time.
    2. Asadullah
      Asadullah 25 December 2015 19: 57 New
      13
      Artists in the military-industrial complex are not needed


      And what do you mean by the word artist? An artist is one who sees the essence of an object in all dimensions accessible to a person. An artist can be a cook, a scientist and a teacher, and a statesman. Yes, anyone who associates their profession with their mission in life. It is the artist who moves civilization forward, by the power of his understanding, by the power of his feelings and mind.

      He met with Prokhanov in Afghanistan, he already acutely felt everything, and grabbed it at a glance. He, like the Messiah, laid his palm on a sore spot and experienced this pain himself instantly. Listen to Prokhanov, he will not tell HOW to do, but he will definitely say WHAT to do. And that will be the truth.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 26 December 2015 23: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Asadullah
        He, like the Messiah, laid his palm on a sore spot and experienced this pain himself instantly. Listen to Prokhanov, he will not tell HOW to do, but he will definitely say WHAT to do. And that will be the truth.

        Bravo, Asadullah! yes
        Beautiful - and right.
  3. vladfill
    vladfill 25 December 2015 19: 13 New
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    Alexander Andreevich is a master of speaking figuratively, pathos, and in each of his words the pain of the lost sounds
    but his words fall into the abyss of indifference, cynicism, lack of spirituality, and only in the rare hearts of people, like him remembering and mourning for the lost. It seems to me that appeals, calls of Alexander to those in power are meaningless.
    Surviving the tragedy were not its heroes.
    1. sssla
      sssla 25 December 2015 19: 14 New
      -3
      Quote: vladfill
      his words fall into the abyss of indifference, cynicism, lack of spirituality,

      Yes, how could it be without it. Who needs us ???
      ... Berg ... Skye in economic matters will never be offended)))
      1. sssla
        sssla 25 December 2015 19: 20 New
        0
        And in politics they laid on you and us all !!
        Well, look around with them and more !!
        1. S_last
          S_last 25 December 2015 19: 38 New
          +4
          This is a terrible violation of international law. But still we will not escalate the situation.
          It is still known that the Russian was detained on charges of the state of Washington for hacking a payment system and selling codes via the Internet.
          If this is not so, they will figure it out, and if so, then the question is why the United States catches it in Israel, and not the native UK in St. Petersburg.
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 25 December 2015 20: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: S_last
            then the question is why the US catches it in Israel, and not the native UK in St. Petersburg.

            Due to the fact that the states consider us to be won over, and themselves rulers of the world. I think they will soon have a hard gap template.
      2. viktorR
        viktorR 25 December 2015 19: 40 New
        +8
        What kind of stuffing? Don't copy and paste nonsense. A bunch of laws must be adopted in order to demand the "debts" of the Crimeans. Starting with the fact that the agreement was not concluded with Russian banks, with what will they come to court? With the originals of agreements from Hi Bank? Where will they get them? And even if they find it, they are not Privat Bank. Ending with the Ukrainian law on force majeure or the inability of the bank to provide the terms of loan repayment. Nonsense in general.

        I'll tell you more, the car itself is privat, leasing. Received Russian documents not already. So I have no checks and never have, the entire loan settlement was carried out through Internet banking. And my last payment for March, although it was sent, did not "reach", and a week later, at the entrance to banking, all cards and accounts were generally reset to zero. No one from privat called nirazu and asked to "pay off debts." By the way, even I do not have the originals of the lease agreement. there was only a "facsimile" (copier in the common people) with a black-and-white seal and a signature from the bank. In Ukraine, this is the norm)))

        At most some swindlers, "on a sucker" can try.
        1. sssla
          sssla 26 December 2015 07: 43 New
          -1
          Quote: viktorR
          What kind of stuffing? Do not copy nonsense.

          Throws ?? It was also about 3 years ago when they said that war (any) in Ukraine is not possible !! What kind of stuffing about the war !! And now there it’s going to happen! !!! So I don’t need to talk about stuffing here hi
          1. viktorR
            viktorR 26 December 2015 13: 38 New
            +1
            In the garden of elderberry, in Kiev, uncle ...
            Who spoke? When did you speak? And then the war ..?

            You have poked around here, not even links, but screenshots from incomprehensible sources, and you say that someone used to say something. Do not you yourself see that it is very dubious, infa and its sources? Or is your task to present a "sensation" to us? Rustle to bring?
    2. Asadullah
      Asadullah 25 December 2015 20: 08 New
      +2
      but his words fall into the abyss of indifference,


      From what. A target beyond the horizon means only the direction of travel. Every step makes the job easier. The rest are already going "for the company".
  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 25 December 2015 19: 13 New
    10
    Emperor Alexander II for
    Cadet Corps wrote:
    "Russia is not a trading state
    and not agricultural, but military,
    and his calling is to be a storm of light "
  5. bronik
    bronik 25 December 2015 19: 19 New
    11
    This is a story, we do not understand its objectives and its meaning.

    And to us, the political instructors very clearly explained both the tasks and the meaning. And there was in their words the truth, which raised 19 year old boys into battle, under dushman bullets. For "For the Motherland."
    1. family tree
      family tree 25 December 2015 23: 57 New
      0
      Quote: bronik
      And the political instructors very intelligibly explained to us both the tasks and the meaning. And there was truth in their words that lifted 19 year old boys into battle, under dushmani bullets.

      Well, if it was under Dushman’s, so there were political leaders, not political instructors, and they didn’t really listen to them, a mere nap, under political information winked
  6. romõch
    romõch 25 December 2015 19: 26 New
    10
    "If you watch television, you see how much poison is poured into the soul so that we do not see the light and did not rebelso that we lie forever in this torpor ... "
    Prokhanov vangs. I also think that in the near future we will be pretty shocked. The body (Russia) needs to get rid of worms.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 December 2015 19: 36 New
      +3
      "In the future, we will be shocked fairly" - for now, economic diarrhea - the withdrawal from the Russian economy of tens of billions of investments, the fall in oil prices and much more, but this phenomenon will wash out half of the "worms"
      1. Gardener91
        Gardener91 25 December 2015 19: 47 New
        +3
        The withdrawal of investments now is the end of the robbery afterwards. Only the development of our own science and industrial infrastructure will guarantee security and sovereignty.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 25 December 2015 19: 54 New
          +2
          These processes go side by side.
        2. 34 region
          34 region 25 December 2015 20: 39 New
          +1
          Gardener91! 19.47. Have you thought well about your thought? Development of your own ...! Of course, I am pleased with the successes of our defense industry. But the successes of the civilian sphere do not please me at all. I understand the military-industrial complex is state-owned enterprises, and the civilian sphere is private business. Well, where are the successes of private business? In the union, the enterprises contained: their sanatoriums, educational institutions, pioneer camps, utility (rural) farms. What do private enterprises support today?
          1. Gardener91
            Gardener91 25 December 2015 23: 04 New
            0
            I meant ALL state institutions and their components
      2. romõch
        romõch 25 December 2015 19: 52 New
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        now has economic diarrhea


        We won't get off with "diarrhea", it's time to go to the infectious diseases department. Bifurcation point ts
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 25 December 2015 20: 01 New
          +1
          We have dealt with the past "Economic diarrhea" in 4 years, it will be exactly the same.
          1. romõch
            romõch 25 December 2015 20: 14 New
            +5
            Quote: Vadim237
            We have dealt with the past "Economic diarrhea" in 4 years, it will be exactly the same.


            not properly. then the scribe was 4 years further, now this insidious animal "no longer sneaks up unnoticed, but stands up in full growth and runs to the meeting" © ... figuratively speaking smile
          2. 34 region
            34 region 25 December 2015 20: 45 New
            +2
            If you coped with past diarrhea so easily, why are we so upset now? It's so easy! Time! And the stomach doesn’t hurt! Well, how's the medic? And why if we are so smart and right we are constantly sausage? Indeed, in this case, we must be beyond all these disasters!
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 25 December 2015 22: 02 New
              0
              There is no good anti-crisis enema in our country, but the time will come and it will appear.
              1. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 25 December 2015 22: 06 New
                +2
                Quote: Vadim237
                There is no good anti-crisis enema in our country, but the time will come and it will appear.

                Tell me, tell me when? what
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 26 December 2015 01: 22 New
                  +1
                  In 2020, it should appear - once the crisis has subsided.
    2. roman_pilot
      roman_pilot 25 December 2015 22: 24 New
      +1
      It’s impossible without worms - the immune system will relax. We must keep them in sight.
    3. EvgNik
      EvgNik 26 December 2015 06: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: romыch
      "If you watch television, you see how much poison is poured into the soul, so that we do not see the light and rebel,

      Television is enemy number one now. We need to shake up this whole gop-company, and the sooner this is done, the better for Russia. True, withdrawal in children and young people will be worse than from drugs. They have absorbed this "culture" too much.
  7. Gardener91
    Gardener91 25 December 2015 19: 39 New
    0
    This is history, we don’t understand its task and its meaning. Without the concept of the strategic development of the state and the more or less intelligible doctrine of the coexistence of the Russian Federation in the modern world, history loses all meaning as it lost with the collapse of the indestructible, but I had faith in Great goals, where the cell of society was in the last place. One cannot be mistaken again in the correctness of the chosen path. I think so ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 25 December 2015 20: 51 New
      +2
      Why was the cell of society in the last place? Maybe she was in first place? And as for strategic development, there is no market here. Without a goal, there is no development. What is our goal today? Stuff your pockets? What purpose does our leadership set, promote and support? Who will enlighten the wretched?
  8. romõch
    romõch 25 December 2015 19: 41 New
    +4
    Quote: Vadim237
    Artists in the military-industrial complex are not needed - there are enough of their own - these arts are still being scattered.


    Artists are needed everywhere and always. Dot. The creator was also an artist smile artist = creator
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 December 2015 19: 56 New
      -1
      Excuse me, have you seen the artist’s creator?
  9. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 25 December 2015 19: 43 New
    +8
    Prokhanov always has a lot of pathos; he is categorical and hyperbolic, but often right.
  10. raid14
    raid14 25 December 2015 19: 44 New
    +8
    Blah, blah, blah, a lot of letters, little sense. Russia, copying "Western values" "money decides everything," followed the path of a society of consumption. For young people, the main thing is to get some kind of higher education, universities often churn out economists, lawyers and humanities.
    With the arrival of "innovators from education" in Russia, the well-functioning mechanism of primary and secondary vocational education has been virtually destroyed for decades, and engineering specialties are also "out of fashion."
    1. cap
      cap 25 December 2015 21: 33 New
      +2
      Quote: raid14
      .For young people, the main thing is to get some kind of higher education, universities are often stamped by economists, lawyers and humanities.
      With the arrival of "innovators from education" in Russia, the well-functioning mechanism of primary and secondary vocational education has been virtually destroyed for decades, and engineering specialties are also "out of fashion."

      Some kind of education, it’s said a lot.
      It does not fit well with the concept of "some kind of" engineer. After whose work it is sure to be somewhere somewhere, something shies.
      After the "work" of a lawyer, the result will not appear so. Well, they will give a period of six months more, just think.
      Any good engineer is the responsibility first of all. This is what the current education does not vaccinate with. And it’s scary. And it’s sad hi After all, all our socialist camp allies used to go to get technical education. The Vietnamese even studied in number factories in hundreds of turners. And now the most sought-after workers in Russia are Turks. Yes, and there are none. Already.
      1. raid14
        raid14 25 December 2015 22: 09 New
        +1
        Exactly some other than technical, because at the WTO with the current level of knowledge with the exam, brains are needed.
        Nowadays, young people cannot get a decent job without a "tower" and they have to study mainly for "office plankton".
  11. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 25 December 2015 19: 45 New
    +3
    Let the youth listen to him, it is good for her! And we are obliged to explain what is good and what is bad. And there then the youths jeans and Coke let the US already nightmare)))
  12. gelezo47
    gelezo47 25 December 2015 19: 54 New
    +6
    I believe that Alexander Andreevich sincerely worries about the future of our country. Of course, a lot of words, but all this is said from the heart ... good
    1. nrex
      nrex 25 December 2015 21: 01 New
      0
      And for the soul, more precisely for the dark of our souls.
  13. voronbel53
    voronbel53 25 December 2015 20: 13 New
    +1
    Prokhanov for the connection of the spiritual with the pragmatic in man - one without the other does not make sense. It’s like there is no soul in the robot, and the soul somewhere in the physical body must inhabit, and for this it is necessary to create conditions not only of physical, but also of spiritual coexistence. Between these components there is a struggle for supremacy, and Prokhanov is on the side of the spiritual component, therefore he has such figurative speech and the rest of the vision of problems ...
  14. KVIRTU
    KVIRTU 25 December 2015 20: 17 New
    +4
    Alexander Andreevich, as always, in emotions. I remembered the older generation of 50-70 years, remembered the youth. I am sure that the carrier and the ability to transmit (broadcast) experience are the representatives of the middle generation, a way of communicating through the generation to themselves: roughly speaking, today, from tracing paper (blueprint) to the tablet.
  15. KRIG55
    KRIG55 25 December 2015 20: 28 New
    +1
    Prokhanov is the last "poet" of the USSR, he is a greater communist than the grandfather of the ZYU and his entire Communist Party of the Russian Federation. This, unfortunately, is a departing nature. But history repeats itself and the craving of people for social justice (not to be confused with take away and divide) no no yes and leads us to the next revolution, and she (the bastard), as a rule, is very bloody, the Ukrainian reality once again confirms this. Of course, young people do not understand him, but this does not make him any less patriot than he is.
  16. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 25 December 2015 20: 38 New
    +2
    And without beautiful words, it’s clear that Russia needs a strong economy.
    And to build it, you need to concentrate the forces, means and thoughts of the whole power.
    Victory belongs to the most stubborn (Bonaparte).
  17. nrex
    nrex 25 December 2015 21: 09 New
    +1
    Belief in one economy (money) and technological progress are inherently vicious, since a person needs not only material wealth, but also spiritual improvement. Only in the parallel development of science and the soul is there the light of the future. It seems to me that is exactly what Prokhanov wants to tell us, and this is precisely the main basic tenets of all major religions.
  18. cap
    cap 25 December 2015 21: 48 New
    +3
    Marijuana will help higher education
    Today at 20: 46, views: 230
    In the county of Pueblo (Colorado) have come up with a new way to finance higher education - through a tax on the cultivation of marijuana. A non-referendum proposal to gradually levy a tax on marijuana cultivation was approved by 60% of county residents. Taxation will begin in 2017 and by 2020 will reach a rate of 5%, which will raise $ 3,5 million. Moreover, half of this amount will be used to finance training at county colleges.
    All county high school graduates will be able to apply for study grants at the District College of Pueblo County and the local affiliate of the University of Colorado. The second half of the collected taxes will go to finance other projects, including the study of the medical properties of marijuana, the repair of old court buildings and highways.
    http://creativecdn.com/bidder/pubs/tagging
    material taken from MK on 25.12.15/XNUMX/XNUMX

    God forbid such an experience from education.
  19. Barakuda
    Barakuda 25 December 2015 22: 05 New
    0
    Blah, blah, blah, a lot of letters, little sense. Russia copying "Western values"

    Peter 1, also tried to copy, and not without success. And theft, and bribery, and the oligarchs of those times ..
    But what did it all end with? Russia has become the most powerful power on the planet.
    Such shocks, reforms, etc. for 10-20 years can not be solved ..
    And who more than the enemy will be declared a hero Chubais or Serdyukov (to measure) in 20 years is not yet known.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 25 December 2015 22: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Barracuda
      Peter 1, also tried to copy, and not without success.

      Petruha took the best, but in the streak he took the side! Ask the Swedes, it turned out, no?
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 25 December 2015 22: 30 New
        0
        There are no Swedes smile But there are Finns that the Swedes are laughing at, and Finns, in turn, over the Balts.
        Well, over the Baltic states ... - jokes just are not born.
        Let them give Tartu-Yuriev bastards for a start, maybe people will not compose jokes.
  20. potalevl
    potalevl 25 December 2015 22: 06 New
    +2
    Prokhanov, of course, is clever. However, I fundamentally disagree with his statement that "Russia lives with divine dreams of justice and beauty". Firstly, God does not dream, but calls us to fulfill his commandments. Secondly, it is in His power to punish sinners and encourage the righteous, but He does not do it all at once, because God is love. He loves us as much as a loving father loves his children, obedient and disobedient. Thirdly, God does not call for a revolution and the abolition of the socio-economic formation existing in a particular period (slaveholding, feudalism, capitalism, social
    socialism), but gives us its commandments, the fulfillment of which allows a person to live comfortably in any state system. Therefore, I think that Russia today lives by trying to convey to the Western community the immutability of these commandments. Well, the fact that God awarded the Russian people the opportunity to appreciate the beauty of doubt can not be. Something like this.
  21. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 25 December 2015 22: 16 New
    +2
    Alexander Andreevich! I have read your books and articles many times. I consider many of your thoughts and articles not only relevant, but also very topical. I respect you, your views and look forward to your further thoughts and views.
  22. NordUral
    NordUral 25 December 2015 23: 50 New
    +2
    Everything will return to square one. The Soviet Union will return, another, more just and humane.
  23. liza1999
    liza1999 25 December 2015 23: 52 New
    0
    Yes, there is a lot of pathos. But this is his style. But there is much that is essentially true, if pathos is discarded.
  24. 1536
    1536 26 December 2015 04: 04 New
    0
    In my opinion, this writer has a completely wrong idea of ​​reality, or he sees it in his books so that I want to ask him: "In what country do you live, dear?"
    I remember reading his "Tree in the Center of Kabul" at school. So what? Could his books then, in the 1980s, explain to the people, primarily our people, that the war in Afghanistan was essentially the first war in which Russia fought terrorism generated by the Americans? No. One pathos and meaningless reasoning. And from the latter. Is this his article about "boys from the Ukrainian OMON" who allegedly defended (!) The state? Yeah, they coped with the brutal Biden militants without weapons? And the article was published just on the eve of February 22, 2014 - the day of the coup and coup in Ukraine. Is this misleading the public? Or thoughtlessness due to complete lack of scientific knowledge of history, sociology, economics, politics? The Russian writer guesses the essence, looks at the root. And this mouse mink covers with bread crumb, in the hope that the mouse, she will not eat bread.
    In short, he writes and writes, and the reader reads and reads. I would only give editorial introductions to his fantasy inventions and pathos slogans, where the real course of events was indicated.
  25. yuriy55
    yuriy55 26 December 2015 04: 21 New
    0
    Perhaps Alexander Prokhanov has a certain pathos in his speeches, but the direction of his thoughts is far from Russophobia. In the enlightenment of the Russian people, in the nation's belief in its own strength, he sees the path of revival (recovery ?!) of Russia. Let his words be emotional, but they come from the soul and selflessness. We know many figures in politics and economics, especially in economics whose "restraint" of feelings is a complete absence of the interests of our Fatherland. Should it be easier for us from their broadcasting and prophecies? Is it their lean faces weighed down with the torments of creativity that should determine spiritual ascent? And there are those who have never spoken an hour in their entire lives, lived according to the principle: silence is golden, and see the prosperity of Russia in the success of Chelsea ...

    Prokhanov and his associates are acutely worried about the events that are taking place in the country. And they are not so much indifferent to these phenomena as they are concerned about the ongoing changes in the consciousness of their compatriots, in the distortion of the morality of society, in the repeated from year to year streams of lies and promises pouring on the heads of "grateful listeners" ...

    Yes, he, as a patriot, sees a powerful, industrial Russia, whose population is intolerant of pseudo-morality, with disgust for false values ​​in modern society. But, here it is - as it is! Only in his words there are no calls for the destruction of statehood, because they make you think about cleansing, spiritual and physical cleansing ...

    hi
  26. 23424636
    23424636 26 December 2015 06: 56 New
    +2
    Prokhanov is great and unique. I remember in the early 90s I bought the newspaper Tomorrow and was stunned by the strength of the Russian spirit. It must be put the Minister of Ideology, let the 5th column cringe.
  27. for_White_Only
    for_White_Only 26 December 2015 11: 01 New
    +1
    How are all these "experts" on how to develop Russia are tired. What I could be convinced from personal experience is that people who do not have important government posts say the right things, but as soon as they get these posts, then all their deeds become directly opposite to their words, and they do not bring any benefit, rather vice versa. And this elderly komunyak prokhanov - who needs him, is the same as Zyuganov, give the authorities - I'll help myself!
  28. 31rus
    31rus 26 December 2015 15: 57 New
    0
    Dear Prokhanov, the writer must proceed from this, he sincerely believes in the revival of Russia and voices this from the point of view of his vision, which are not always modern, not always understandable. I personally saw no way in the questions and answers of the writer (albeit idealistic, religious or what other), therefore, I belong to Prokhanov as a publicist of his ideas, nothing more)