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USSR in the Middle East

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After the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Moscow lost its influence in the Middle East, foreign analysts remind. But it was precisely in that region of the planet that the Soviets for many years invested considerable resources, and not only financial ones. It seemed that everything had disappeared overnight. However, now we can talk about the "Middle Eastern revival" of Russia.


Sammy Ketz writes about this in his material for channel "France24".

According to the analyst, the “inflexibility” of Russia's position on Syria is partly due to Moscow’s desire to protect strong bilateral ties with the latest “client state” in the Middle East. After those years, when the Kremlin’s influence in the region was rapidly declining, Russia, as well as Iran, demonstrated a “sharp return” to the politics of the Middle East. This happened in 2015, when they gave support to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad.

Decades of being a supporter of the "Syrian regime," reminds the journalist, Moscow only this year "raised the stakes" in the fight, deploying its Air Force in Syria and starting to "bomb the rebels" fighting against the "Assad army."

At the same time, Tehran, after many years of isolation and Western sanctions, has returned, claiming the seat of a regional power.

Analysts, the journalist further notes, doubt that both Russia and Iran will eventually receive "leading roles in the region." Rather, both states “will be bogged down in the quagmire of the Middle East.”

The rebirth of Iran and Russia is obviously more and more manifested in their “shameless interventionism,” says Karim Bitar, head of research at the Paris Institute of International and Strategic Relations. Moscow and Tehran are only trying to "fill the void" that has formed in the region due to the "American retreat."

The interventionist approach is obvious: after all, the conflict has been going on here for almost five years. For several years, limited to financial assistance and the provision of military advisers, Moscow finally launched an air war in support of Assad. This happened relatively recently, in September 2015.

The actions of the Russians were directed against the “patchwork” - various armed forces hostile to the Assad regime: from the US-backed rebel groups to the “Islamic State”.

With the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, Moscow lost its influence in the Middle East, the author recalls. But the Russians for many years invested in the region.

In May 1994, the Democratic Republic of Yemen yielded to the pressure of Saudi Arabia.

Russia's influence in Iraq came to an end when, after the US invasion, Saddam Hussein was overthrown and executed.

In addition to the Middle East, Moscow received a “repetition stories»In Libya: in October 2011, with the UN sanction, a military campaign was launched against Russia's ally Muammar Gaddafi

“The West has deceived us,” said one high-ranking Russian diplomat.

Syria remained. This is the last bridgehead of Moscow in the Middle East, the author recalls. His loss would have written off Russia as a second-rate state.

By displaying a “non-flexible” stance on Syria in the international arena, Moscow not only defends bilateral ties with Damascus and, consequently, with the Middle East, but also positions itself as a defender of the Christian minority in the region. “Revanchism”, characteristic of Russia after its humiliation of the reform period, is also partly manifested.

Expert Aydar Kurtov believes that Russians have pushed “national interest” to actions in the Middle East: it’s better to strike terrorists abroad rather than drive them away from the Russian borders.

In addition, the Kremlin is seeking to restore Russia's position in international politics, comparable to what the Soviet Union had, the analyst explained.

The fruits of Russia's actions in Syria are already there. As the journalist writes, Russia has strengthened ties with Egypt, Jordan, the monarchies of the Persian Gulf and secured a central role for itself in the search for a political solution to the Syrian crisis. US Secretary of State John Kerry recently described Russia's role as "constructive."

At the same time, Iran strengthened its power: it seriously invested in the defense of its ally (Damascus) and played a prominent role in the international negotiations on Syria.

“Russia and Iran began to cooperate conscientiously to prevent the total destruction of the region,” said Mohammad Marandi, dean of the faculty of world studies at Tehran University, to a correspondent.

According to Marandi, already “in the coming weeks” other political actors and other countries will come closer to the Iranian-Russian position regarding attitudes towards extremists.

The last forecast, we add from ourselves, seems to be a little consistent with reality.

The site Amnesty International just appeared a publication devoted to the results of a study of the actions of the military aviation RF in Syria.

The compilers of the document are confident that other actions of Moscow in the region may constitute “serious violations” of the norms of international humanitarian law, and the bombing of civilian facilities in Syria may be characterized as “war crimes”.

USSR in the Middle East


As human rights activists suggest, Russian forces attacked civilian targets, striking residential areas and medical facilities. Representatives of the civilian population died from these blows, Amnesty International experts write.

In addition, the Russians allegedly bombed both military targets and civilian objects, making no distinction between them.

The document also says that the Russian armed forces, attacking military targets, caused “excessive damage” to civilians. And this kind of “attack” can represent “war crimes”.

Finally, human rights activists point to some kind of “evidence” of the “illegal use” by Russians of “unguided bombs” in densely populated areas and “cluster munitions”.

However, human rights activists are either mistaken or lying. Either their “testimony” itself needs a testimony.

December 23 Russian Defense Ministry denied allegations of cluster munitions in Syria. "Russian aviation does not use them," - leads Interfax Statement by the representative of the Ministry of Defense, Major-General Igor Konashenkov, made by him at a briefing.

According to Konashenkov, dozens of foreign journalists are present at the briefing. They personally visited the Khmeimim airbase and almost every day they took off the preparation of aircraft, takeoffs and landings.

“But no one has ever shown or even asked questions on this type of ammunition, because there is no such ammunition at our base in Syria,” the general said.

We can conclude, let us add, that the Western press, and especially the human rights activists who have joined in the persecution of Moscow, will by all means prevent the process of “reviving the USSR” that Hillary Clinton, being Secretary of State, has not started in the Middle East USA. The Russians will continue to be portrayed as murderers of civilians and almost brothers of terrorists from the “IG”: after all, instead of the latter, they allegedly prefer to bomb the “rebels” fighting against the “Assad army”.

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  1. strelets
    strelets 25 December 2015 06: 33
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    And what is wrong with the revival of the USSR? The peoples lived together under one roof, a good social policy, and the regular improvement of the elite through social elevators. Among other things. In the year 91, everyone voted to preserve the USSR.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 25 December 2015 07: 02
      25
      Quote: strelets
      In 91, everyone voted to preserve the USSR

      Well, not quite all. Baldonov ignored the vote. In Western Urkain, the majority (albeit small) voted for secession. And the Jews in those days voted with their feet. In the late 1980s and early 1990s, heaps went one after another. The last dump, which I happened to visit, was my own, but I managed to vote for the preservation of the USSR. As it soon turned out, the vote did not make sense - the Bialowieza gang put on him it is known that. EBN with Shushkevich, bastards, had time to die in their beds, but Kravchuk was still alive, and it would be unfair if at least he would not be brought to justice. And if you give him justice, then it should be count.
      1. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 25 December 2015 09: 58
        +8
        Quote: strelets
        And what is wrong with the revival of the USSR? The peoples lived together under one roof, a good social policy, and the regular improvement of the elite through social elevators. Among other things. In the year 91, everyone voted to preserve the USSR.

        There is nothing wrong with the revival of the USSR. But only it should not be the Soviet system.
        According to what historical practice has shown, communism is inferior to capitalism in vitality.

        Yes, the west is really rotting. But why did he eventually prevail. Why could not protect the Soviet system. Why did they make a puppet from the great Soviet empire (at that time a puppet).

        When I ask this question, they usually answer me: That it is not the Communists who are to blame for everything, but the EBN, the corrupt elite, and so on ... That is, the Communists are not to blame for being raped, for allowing the whole country to be raped ( since they are not chapels at all), and therefore is not responsible for the fact that everything is safe PROsral. I have not seen a single communist who honestly said: Yes, it is our fault, yes, we have lost control over the situation.
        Instead, it is customary to scam EBN, referring to conspirators, spies and the degradation of society.

        I said that I was even ready to consider the revival of the Soviet system, and I asked representatives and followers of the Soviet system: Well, tell me what was the flaw? Where did you get pierced?
        They say to me: We didn’t get pierced anywhere, everything was fine - it’s all Yeltsin's fault.
        That is, a person is completely irresponsible to the people. The Communists talk a lot about the people, but after the collapse of the USSR, they are somehow afraid to answer and admit that they were pierced.

        It turns out that if this happened once, then the system is already imperfect, and is less tenacious. In relation to the same capitalism. Since - capitalism gobbled up communism, and did not even choke.

        P.E.
        Seeking salvation in the revival of the Soviet system is not worth it. We have an authoritarian country, yes, but this does not mean at all that it should be Soviet.
        1. Boos
          Boos 25 December 2015 10: 26
          11
          I listen to you and see the "degrading" China, Vietnam, which took the ideas of the USSR as a basis.
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 25 December 2015 10: 51
            +5
            Quote: Boos
            I listen to you and see the "degrading" China, Vietnam, which took the ideas of the USSR as a basis.

            But in Russia it did not work.
            Yes, I do not mind. Just tell me what the problem was, what didn't work out that way. Clearly clearly specific.
            Clearly, not a single communist can answer this question.
            All communists believe that EBN is to blame, not a single communist is to blame even once.

            And we do not live in China, and not in Vietnam (I hope).
            1. Michael-rl
              Michael-rl 25 December 2015 11: 13
              +7
              There was, after all, an oversized iron curtain. There is no such thing now in China. The people were lured by slogans - "Look in the West there is Chanel, McDonald's, fashionable jeans, etc." - after the collapse, you will have enough of this - you will be rich, ride abroad, etc. And when the people realized that this was all crap, it was already too late (although some peoples come across a second time =)). It is quite possible that if there was more open access to everything, with reasonable censorship, the people would already know that this was not that worth it. The one who needed it - he has already cleaned up his factories and is satisfied.
              China still has freer access to everything "capitalist".
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 25 December 2015 11: 51
                +1
                Besides. It is impossible to customize which specific country or several countries are standard. As it is today, the Americans are doing it, although democratizing everyone.
                I think democracy is not acceptable for Russia because of our mentality. We have an authoritarian mindset.

                For example, communist China, they have this system on the rails. We have such a system and have not lived for 100 years.
                We need something between democracy and the Soviet system.
              2. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 25 December 2015 14: 22
                +1
                Quote: Michael-rl
                There was, after all, an oversized iron curtain. There is no such thing now in China. The people were lured by slogans - "Look in the West there is Chanel, McDonald's, fashionable jeans, etc." - after the collapse, you will have enough of this - you will be rich, ride abroad, etc. And when the people realized that this was all crap, it was already too late (although some peoples come across a second time =)). It is quite possible that if there was more open access to everything, with reasonable censorship, the people would already know that this was not that worth it. The one who needed it - he has already cleaned up his factories and is satisfied.
                China still has freer access to everything "capitalist".

                You know, colleague, for some reason I liked your comment, that is, what is interesting in your thoughts. hi
              3. mark2
                mark2 25 December 2015 15: 07
                +8
                There was still too much iron curtain. In China, this is not now.


                1. During the reign of Comrade Stalin, the USSR was in strict isolation, but this did not prevent American businessmen from building factories on the territory of the USSR. Payment was gold and not American paper.
                2. China is now under economic sanctions. This has been repeatedly said. But, as we see, this does not interfere with doing business in China as well as American and European companies on its territory.
                3.
                Just tell me what the problem was, what didn't work out that way. Clearly clearly specific.


                The blame is that the Communists lost the succession of generations. Stalin could not bring the socialist system to the creation of succession. He died or helped, but the fact remains. Subsequent imagined themselves on a par with the monarchs. We sat to the end. The absence of reform and, most importantly, the complete denial of the adoption of good from capitalism. Capitalism, unlike us, studied with us. In terms of social security, for example. Now we envy them.
                And most importantly, minimal attention was paid to consumer goods, the lack of opportunities for people to engage in small business activities and the need to provide their citizens with everything necessary. Not minimal, but necessary.
                Tell me, who or what prevented the USSR from establishing mass production of cars, refrigerators, and televisions. Constantly expand the range and lineups.
                We bought 1 car factory, well, I would have bought another 1 or two or ten. Did you feel sorry for the money? I don’t think so.
                There was a certain attitude, rather stupid: a man for society and not a society for man. If society did everything that every citizen would receive according to his ability, then the USSR would still live.
                And for this, it was necessary a bit - reforms, reforms, reforms ... and not according to the classical system: to destroy and then ... And just give people the opportunity to earn as much as he can and not hang articles on them about farsing, unearned income , parasitism, etc.
                Remember wild capitalism during the years of perestroika? There she is. They gave us the opportunity to earn money and the country began to fill up with what we lacked. And there was a lack of basic, consumer electronics clothing and a variety of products.
                But the USSR was petrified in the dogma of the impossibility of private property in the socialist system.
                Actually EBN and nothing to do with it. He just acted as taught. but they were taught to destroy first and then try to do something.
                1. Kaiten
                  Kaiten 25 December 2015 17: 40
                  +2
                  mark2-100%
                  1. Kasym
                    Kasym 25 December 2015 18: 48
                    +1
                    Mark2. Liked. But as we can see, without competition, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union "got drunk" (special stores, etc.) EBN and Gorbachev are cabinet bureaucrats, the maximum for them is to run the collective farm.
                    Another reason that so many "free gifts" have been done. Until now, Moscow is writing off so that you can "move on." On them all the agriculture could be lifted more than once.
                    Well, all the same, the Politburo succumbed to the arms race. Until now, the whole world is "consuming" the reserves of the former USSR. Well, where are so many vigorous warheads, and armored scrap metal all over the Union? hi
            2. Boos
              Boos 25 December 2015 12: 28
              -1
              It was necessary to keep up to date ...
              1. _Vladislav_
                _Vladislav_ 25 December 2015 13: 07
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                Quote: Boos
                It was necessary to keep up to date ...

                a vague, ambiguous statement that does not give an answer - what exactly still had to be done?
                And why did the communists fail?
                1. Boos
                  Boos 26 December 2015 07: 03
                  +1
                  Careerists in time to shoot.
            3. VenDora
              VenDora 25 December 2015 14: 02
              +2
              As they said revolution, geniuses plan, make romance, and bastards use it.
              How many Communists died in World War II?
              Only party apparatchiks, that is, nomenclature, were in power. How many of them were real communists? Among ordinary people, even in 90 there were many real ones, but what can they solve?
            4. revnagan
              revnagan 25 December 2015 21: 15
              +2
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              Just tell me what the problem was, what didn't work out that way. Clearly clearly specific.

              Forgive me for interfering in your dialogue, but the mistake was that they tried to build a happy, just society in the whole world only at the expense of the resources of the USSR. And all these resources had to be used to build such a society INSIDE the USSR. Do not Soviet citizens have enough cars? to build 300 industrial enterprises for China, and to buy, in addition to Fiat, a plant from both BMW and Renault. Not enough Pepsikola? Buy Coca-Cola (production) in the USSR. This is how it was necessary to do .SOCIALISM-FOR OWNERS! And not try to make the whole world happy and bring justice "there" ... at our expense.
            5. Iskander69
              Iskander69 25 December 2015 22: 10
              +1
              "Just tell me what the problem was, what didn't work that way. Clearly, clearly, specifically."
              "Do you see a gopher there? No? And he is!"
              There should also be an answer to your question somewhere. Only in a bunch do not interfere - tenacious, not tenacious
            6. aksakal
              aksakal 26 December 2015 13: 21
              0
              Quote: _Vladislav_
              And we do not live in China, and not in Vietnam (I hope).

              - Well, even in the 90s we lived better than the Chinese and Vietnamese (the vast majority now. Do not argue, but go and see!), so there’s no need to dramatize.
              There are many reasons for a puncture. In ideology, the Soviet system tried to educate a person, remaking him often against his nature. And the Western, on the contrary, indulged human weaknesses.
              In economics. This is a difficult question. State-owned enterprises have their pros and cons, and private owners have their own. Well, let's try to consider. Suppose you need a new generation combat fighter. In both cases, the state needs the fighter, and it forms the terms of reference and the appearance of the future aircraft. So, the state-owned enterprise, which lives at the expense of the state, is not interested in profit, it is interested in the result.
              When the state gives an assignment to a private trader, he is primarily interested in "gain". That is, a private enterprise gives a result in exchange for profit, a state enterprise is not interested in profit, it is also a state enterprise and lives at the expense of the state. It turns out that state enterprises in R&D and the introduction of newly developed products into mass production are several times cheaper than private owners. This is what we see when the Russian military-industrial complex, with almost 11 times less budget, achieves almost the same results as the American military-industrial complex.
              But the network and the cons. Let's say there is a government need to supply key managers with mobile communications. State-owned enterprises will quickly develop, release the required number of products called "Altai", and that's it. Because The state-owned enterprise is not interested in profit, the emerging demand for this communication from the population, who would not mind freely buying these phones in Radiotekhnika stores for installation in their Zhiguli, will remain UNSATISFIED. In the case of a private trader, the business owner, having received profit from the fulfillment of the state order for mobile communications, will not be satisfied with this, and seeing the demand from the population, he will certainly try to spill this field in order to make a profit. As a result, mobile communication came to us from the West, although we were the pioneers! (see Zimin's memoirs).
              So, in the case of a public (read state) form of ownership of the means of production, R&D and production of innovative products are both cheaper and more efficient. Let us prove the "more effective" example by the example of the "Club S" rocket. An ingenious decision to place missiles in a 20-foot container for a private trader is a penny and therefore such a decision will never come to the mind of developers from a private trader; instead, they will try to achieve effect with the help of very expensive solutions, inflating the R&D budget and sawing bloated.
              But in terms of spreading the developed breadth and deeper into all sectors of life, the private trader is still more effective. And it is true. In economics, the conscience of the system was the main puncture in this.
              And still an unsolved problem is how to cross a "snake with a hedgehog."
              And the third puncture is the excessive influence of ideology on the economy. Well, we all saw it, saw what it led to.
        2. revnagan
          revnagan 25 December 2015 21: 08
          +1
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          According to what historical practice has shown, communism is inferior to capitalism in vitality.

          I categorically disagree with you. Communism is much more effective than capitalism, only one little "but". Socialism (and in the future, communism) should be built in a SEPARATE COUNTRY. JV Stalin understood this perfectly. And this idea was successfully abandoned by his followers. Dams in Egypt, manufacturing plants in China ... Yes, why did the Soviet people need them !? These funds could be used to build (buy in the west) dozens of factories that would manufacture !!! consumer goods for the citizens of the USSR. Cars and jeans, household appliances and plumbing, electrical appliances and building materials ... Everything that we so lacked in the USSR. And food. And processing plants. But these billions of the USSR forgave-donated- donated ... To whom and why? It was impossible to build socialism for strangers to the detriment of my people. I agree to malnutrition and work hard so that MY country would live better, so that ME and MY children have a perspective. What did I care about the working people of Africa and America “Seeing the successes of the USSR and the standard of living, they should have reached out to us. I hope that when the USSR 2.0 revives, we will not repeat this mistake.
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 26 December 2015 13: 46
            -2
            Quote: revnagan
            Dams in Egypt, manufacturing enterprises in China ... Yes, what for the Soviet people needed them !? With these funds, it was possible to build (buy in the west) dozens of enterprises that would produce B !!! consumer goods for citizens of the USSR. Cars and jeans, household appliances and plumbing, electrical appliances and building materials.
            - Revnagan, the state DOES NOT BUILD, as you see! It is immediately evident that you have never worked in managers, you have never managed even a small team, but here you decided to advise how to run the state. You rest on specific decisions and think that the "most important" should personally manage all of this, making every time in the cases similar to those described by you, decisions, and always ERROR FREE! Meanwhile, the task is that the system (what you control - the state, a collective of people) WORK ONCE, each time independently making optimal, or at least suboptimal decisions. The task of the "most important" is just to build such a smart system. And this most important one must work precisely on this self-organizing system, improving and perfecting it all. For there is no limit to perfection. Then the "most important" does not need to think everyone, which is better? - to build a dam for the Egyptians or buy outdated ones in the west (because the West will not sell factories equipped with the latest technology, there is no need to delude ourselves here and so forget in time that the Cold War was going on, the Jackson-Venik amendments raged, etc.). You just "technically" forgot about this in your post, making the Soviet leaders complete idiots, and yourself being smart, although, alas, this is not so! Your post is drawn to the senior class of the school) factories, the system itself will decide which is better. If the system has decided incorrectly, then the most important one should connect, find out why the system worked erroneously and make changes to the settings - this is the work of the "most important", and not in what to plow for the system himself!
            Py.Sy. And yes, I admit that you still worked as a leader, but then I felt sorry for you during this period of your work. Poor thing, you plowed instead of your subordinates, making all decisions for them and taking responsibility away from them.
            1. revnagan
              revnagan 26 December 2015 19: 52
              0
              Quote: aksakal
              - build a dam for the Egyptians or buy obsolete ones in the west (because the West will not sell factories equipped with the latest technology,

              ?????? But the Italians sold it! "Fiat". "Zhiguli" on what was produced in the USSR? Well, we would have built 2-3 factories with this money.
              Quote: aksakal
              If the system has decided incorrectly, then the most important one should connect, find out why the system worked erroneously and make changes to the settings - this is the work of the "most important" thing, and not about plowing for the system himself!

              A good system works even without the intervention of the "chief." There was the Council of Ministers, the Central Committee Congresses ... The strategy was chosen incorrectly after Stalin's death. "Socialism throughout the world" is not only a whim of the Chief. The majority in the system decided that it was good. And they let this decision down from the top. Without asking for an opinion. naroda.And the opinion of ordinary people (father, neighbors, work colleagues) I voiced to you: "Fuck me socialism in Africa or a dam in Egypt at my expense! If I could hardly buy a meat and bone set in one hand!"
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 27 December 2015 00: 50
                0
                Quote: revnagan
                But the Italians sold it! "Fiat". "Zhiguli" on what was produced in the USSR? But there was a competition for the construction. And the Germans, and the French, and, and, and ... Well, they would have built with this money. 2-3 factories.
                - well, at that time, the Italian "Fiat" was not already the last squeak, but by the time the plant was built, it did not become younger laughing In the meantime, we launched our own R&D on the basis of the Fiat models, and at all turned out to be in the role of catch-up. Well, now to remind you of the recent story with the "Opel", which the Germans did not need, but nevertheless sold this "Opel" to you? Remind or remember yourself? And remember about "Alitalia"? Even in those cases when the Russians themselves, without outside help and platforms, managed to create at the global level, remind you of a vivid example of "fair competition"? - Yes, yes, this is about the T-platform company, which produces supercomputers. Dear - everything is simple, in the current world financial and economic architecture you simply WILL NOT BE allowed to develop normally. Are these examples not an indicator for you? Me - even very much. Moreover, it is such an indicator that, perhaps, this is wrong, I would postpone all plans for development until better times, and concentrate on the complete, "to the bottom", as was sung in one revolutionary song, the destruction of this established financial and economic architecture. I understand, it is fraught, "who will give" ?, this is the whole world in dust ", but after all, given this architecture, the whole world is so and so in dust, anyway.
      2. python2a
        python2a 25 December 2015 11: 24
        +2
        Regarding the Balts, you are wrong, ordinary people were for preserving the Union. This surfaced to the heights of power and strongly supported because of the cordon did everything for separation, ebn helped them a lot.
      3. user
        user 26 December 2015 23: 06
        0
        And the Jews in those days voted with their feet.



        And interestingly, most of those who voted with their feet again hang out with us or, as they say, live between Moscow and Tel Aviv.
    2. Yak28
      Yak28 25 December 2015 07: 06
      19
      When the USSR collapsed and Russia weakened, our "allies" in the form of the republics of the USSR began to survive the Russians and throw mud at Russia. But the Russians fought for them, built infrastructure for them, taught them to read and write, and some Asian republics in general came up with the alphabet and writing. from the Warsaw Treaty countries, they went even further, joined NATO, deployed US troops hostile to Russia on their territory, imagine they would have betrayed Russia during the war. Here are the friendly peoples under one roof. You watch crime news, 90% of crimes in Moscow are made by visitors from the former "fraternal" republics of the USSR. Personally, I no longer want to alliance with these traitors. Although, of course, the advantages of socialism, or if you want communism, are evident over capitalism.
      1. S_last
        S_last 25 December 2015 08: 22
        +9
        I will not defend anyone, it makes no sense. But you still look at events from a slightly different angle. Forget about imaginary grievances for a moment.
        The collapse of the union, mind you, the three leaders of the Slavic republics say the collapse, not Uzbeks and Tajiks. The allies of the Warsaw Pact remain with nothing, because their entire economy was somehow tied to this Warsaw Pact, and especially the USSR. To their questions, to the then leadership of the USSR, what and how, they were sent to put it mildly. GDR, in simple terms, surrendered without pity, Cuba went there too. They all went to make a choice without a choice, who are consciously recognized as Poland, who are forced, like Bulgaria or Cuba.
        And as for the visitors from the "fraternal" republics, since they are not fraternal for a long time, those for whom Russia is an absolutely foreign country are coming now. You don't like them, they don't like you. And it cannot be otherwise, because it is the capitalists of Russia who bring in cheap slaves to get big profits. And why would one expect love from slaves.
      2. heal
        heal 25 December 2015 08: 37
        -1
        Quote: Yak28
        When the USSR collapsed and Russia weakened, our "allies" in the form of the republics of the USSR began to survive the Russians and throw mud at Russia. But the Russians fought for them, built infrastructure for them, taught them to read and write, and some Asian republics in general came up with the alphabet and writing. "Allies" from the Warsaw Treaty countries went even further, joined NATO, deployed US troops on their territory ...

        And there is no need to do good. Even now, billions are being written off to all "friends". History teaches nothing.
      3. Kadex
        Kadex 25 December 2015 10: 34
        -2
        Quote: Yak28
        and in some Asian republics, in general, the alphabet and written language

        Announce the list, please.
        Quote: Yak28
        Look at the crime news, 90% of crimes in Moscow are committed by visitors from the former "fraternal" republics of the USSR

        You are a liar, my friend.
        http://www.rg.ru/2014/02/05/prestupnost-moscow-site.html
        1. Yak28
          Yak28 25 December 2015 17: 28
          -3
          The alphabet of your Kazakhstan, including that you could squat before the arrival of the Russians. Maybe science has developed, or some technology. Or have you built your own infrastructure, I don’t know what?
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 25 December 2015 18: 13
            0
            In Kazakhstan, Alma-Ata region, Issyk burial mounds, during the excavations, the "Golden Warrior" was found - one of the symbols of Kazakhstan. A silver bowl was found in the same necropolis. There is an inscription on it, which at the beginning of this year is Azeri. a Turkologist at a conference in Moscow provided proof of translation. "The SANGLA tribes sing of the four cardinal points. Three hundred who mourn the oath drink." Dates back to the 4th century BC. A similar alphabet was used from Altai and Yenisei to Central Asia. It's about writing.
            We heard about such a Ulugbek (fingers of one hand are enough to count the rulers who were scientists) and his observatory (the first half of the 15th century). He was the first to organize a higher educational institution (mathematics, astronomy, medicine, etc.), when there were more than 3 centuries before the University of Lomonosov. Al-Farabi, Avicenna (we still use his preparations), etc. Bukhara (age over 2500 years old, cultural layer over 20 meters), Khiva, Kokand were already recognized shopping centers in Asia, when Kiev was not yet. And in the same Bukhara, the irrigation system (the system of canals and irrigation ditches) was before Alexander the Great.
            The same Germans recently found the "first" trousers, well preserved and the date of about 2500 years (and everyone admitted that even now they are similar, they consist of three parts: 2 trousers and a double central part, and patterns are distinguishable), before that they found trousers dated 1800 years old. And do you know that these are the clothes of nomads.
            All this is not mine or someone’s fabrications, but history.
            So let's not face it. hi
            1. a housewife
              a housewife 25 December 2015 20: 09
              0
              Perfectly! To prove which Kazakhs were developed, cite the Uzbeks as an example! What do they have in common? Nomads could not create cities, which means that science was absent. Writing was because the nomads also needed it.
              1. aksakal
                aksakal 26 December 2015 14: 16
                0
                Quote: housewife
                Perfectly! To prove which Kazakhs were developed, cite the Uzbeks as an example! What do they have in common? Nomads could not create cities, which means that science was absent. Writing was because the nomads also needed it.
                - what the hell are the Uzbeks? There was then no division into Kazakhs and Uzbeks and someone else. This whole division happened later, when the Vda Khan quarreled with the others and migrated.
                Science? laughing laughing The state that is now challenging you, and the military one, also has cities, but this state does not have a science. Yes, yes, I'm talking about Turkey. No, there is some kind of applied science, they know how to do something, but the fundamental, on which this applied science is based, is completely absent. Which does not stop Turkey from challenging you.
                So your version of the city is fundamentally wrong. The prerequisites for the development of science are different.
                But the main thing is not this - the main thing is that the belated civilizational breakthrough made by the Russians, belated in comparison with the Asians, that is, with us, now you are betrayed as your development and our backwardness. Meanwhile, the Russians, as part of the Western world, began to carry out their civilizational breakthrough with the West about five hundred years ago, when the Asians fell into decay. Now the cycle is going the other way around, Asia is rising and the West is declining, and what will be the reason for our descendants to reproach the Russians for backwardness after five hundred years? And your descendants will refer to our time? Stupidity.
                What pulled up - well, how to look. Since the Russians did this, it was they themselves who needed it in the first place. Not you - so other people were. The same Turkey in the person of Enver Hoxha (did you learn history at least a little?) Showed interest in the 20s of the last century to familiarize us with the values ​​and achievements of a rising European civilization. So the Russians fought against this Enver Khoja fiercely, sparing no energy and eliminated him. And now you are reproaching yourself with the fact that you yourself really needed it deadly? Perhaps without reproaches? We did not ask you to come, you yourself expressed a desire, and how! Fought against rivals rival Enver Hoxha sparing no effort laughing They themselves came, they did everything themselves, no need to reproach us for this. I know for sure - not you - so others would do it. It’s just that your conditions turned out to be the most acceptable, but this is not for you - it’s a plus for us, because this is our choice, we have chosen the most suitable wassat And so they would introduce us to anyone, just the alphabet would be in the form of hieroglyphs or in the form of the Latin alphabet (by the way, we had Arabic script and Latin right up to the 30s, study history, our alphabet teachers laughing )
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            3. Yak28
              Yak28 25 December 2015 22: 15
              0
              I don’t compete with the genitals, and the fact that the culture of the Asian republics, as well as the Persian Gulf countries is older than Russia, does not mean anything, but the fact that these countries are backward in development is a fact. If the USSR and the USA did not tighten the countries of Asia and Arab countries, you would all like Afghanistan lived
      4. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 25 December 2015 13: 23
        +3
        Yes, what is written there, they taught us to use fire and showed the wheel.
        I especially liked
        Quote: Yak28
        But the Russians fought for them

        in fact, if we take the 2nd world one, then Hitler and Germany could not touch the same Central Asians. so the big question is who fought for whom.
        that’s such a position, they say, we are saints, altruists, you all that we owe to you, and it scares everyone from Russia. smaller aplomb and maybe the neighbors will reach us.
      5. revnagan
        revnagan 26 December 2015 20: 12
        0
        Quote: Yak28
        .After all, the Russians fought for them, built their infrastructure, taught literacy, and in some Asian republics they came up with an alphabet and a written language.

        And for whom did the Kazakhs of Panfilov fight? Yakuts-snipers? Kovpak partisans? Who did Kozhedub fight for? Akhmet Khan Sultan? Kantaria, who, together with Yegorov, hoisted the Banner of Victory over the Reichstag? And at such a pace you will be knocked out into the "field marshals." More and more often, posts with statements "the Russians fought for everyone! The Russians built for everyone! The Russians worked for everyone!" And the national men only lay on the featherbeds and kicked. frenziedly plyuyutsya.Pravda he himself did not build anything in the USSR, did not create, but how nice: "we built everything for them (aha, we plowed!), and ONIIII! Ungrateful!" So you want everyone to owe you for the merits of your ancestors. Well, just like "dill". And to understand that they lived in one country, one family, worked together, built, defended and restored what was destroyed by the wars, the mind is probably not enough. to understand that only by Russian people, by their hands and at the expense of the resources of only Russia in rep It’s physically impossible to build everything that was created there. Yes, in the Baltics they created a “showcase” of the USSR. But how many of the Baltic States are there? To restore the power of our Motherland, you need not shout that you are Russian and feed everyone, but work alongside to those who get close and take a shovel without question. It doesn't matter what nation the person is, if he works with you for one big goal, for one result everyone needs.
    3. Sirocco
      Sirocco 25 December 2015 08: 04
      +2
      Quote: strelets
      And what is wrong with the revival of the USSR?

      The former Union cannot be returned, alas, these are our dreams and memories (of the Older Generation). A new Union is being created, on different conditions, and with different rules.
      The most amazing thing is that the West fought with the USSR, destroyed it, and took the best from the Union, and itself created the EU. And we ourselves are hindering by all means the creation of our union by us, why should this be? Here are such things.
      the Western press, and especially the “human rights defenders” who joined in the persecution of Moscow, will by all means prevent the process of “revival of the USSR” from starting in the Middle East,

      So what, does anyone have doubts about the conduct of the war against Russia?
      Many people ask when it will start, let it go, only the enemy (EU, USA) has become more cunning and insidious.
      Who will replay whom. That is the question, which is why the EU went to Va Bank.
    4. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 25 December 2015 08: 51
      +6
      Russians were slaughtered in the national suburbs. We then observed this in Chechnya and Central Asia. It just started not in the 90s.
      Then the Uzbeks slaughtered the Tajiks. And vice versa. Do you think it began with democracy? What do you . Much earlier.
      Current Ukrainian nationalism also began not today.
      Only in newspapers was it forbidden to write about it. There it was only possible to speak optimistically about the existing system and the prospects for the early construction of communism. Vacation packages to the Crimea, too, were not given to everyone. And there are big problems with the place of residence. In the sense of moving from city to city. It is believed that it was easy to get an apartment. Nothing like this. My parents, for example, have lived half their lives in a communal apartment. Social elevator was yes. We had to become a party member and show vigor at meetings. Express concern about Honduras. And stigmatize the Israeli warriors who oppress the freedom-loving people of Haiti.

      And of course the deficit. The eternal companion of socialism.
      Well, everything else was just wonderful.
      1. Megatron
        Megatron 25 December 2015 16: 13
        +1
        Exactly, they drove and cut, and we again got visa-free entry, integration, and many other cookies.
    5. bandabas
      bandabas 25 December 2015 11: 15
      +1
      As for the peoples, I would say. Everywhere there are normal people. But Muscovites in the camps (children’s, labor, sports, etc.) and in Krasnaya extinguished. Leningraders, as a rule, were not touched. Ah, now St. Petersburg.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 25 December 2015 06: 43
    +2
    The drafters of the documents are sure that other actions of Moscow in the region may constitute “serious violations” of international humanitarian law, and the bombing of civilian targets in Syria can be characterized as “war crimes”.... Guano rushed through the pipes .... Previously, the West frightened the world with the "Soviet threat" ... Teperich hangs the label - an "international" criminal, justifying his crimes by actions in the name of "democracy" ...
  3. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 25 December 2015 07: 19
    +5
    When I hear "human rights activist", a frame of one of the Judas films hanging on a tree flashes before my eyes ...
  4. Humpty
    Humpty 25 December 2015 07: 26
    +1
    The title of the article and its content are completely inconsistent. Strange. And who degenerated such a delusional card, most similar to the claims of the pan-Turkists.
  5. blizart
    blizart 25 December 2015 07: 29
    +4
    Demonstrating an "inflexible" position on Syria in the international arena
    Why is this position of Russia inflexible? She is very flexible! They are flexible, like a spring that has been compressed to the limit. Then, as you know, it happens - Dzanning !!!
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 December 2015 07: 35
    +4
    “The West has deceived us,” said one high-ranking Russian diplomat.

    Frankly, I’m ashamed to say such things to professional diplomats. Has the situation and the possible consequences of the concessions not been analyzed? Didn’t they realize that the West was always ready to deceive? I will not believe. There were simply instructions from above that the diplomat was obliged to fulfill. It is good that even now they have begun to act independently without looking back to the west. And to blacken Russia and its actions will continue. So do not get used to it, but answering this is strictly necessary.
  7. L. A. A.
    L. A. A. 25 December 2015 07: 39
    +2
    When Russia regains great power, the closest countries will seek to be friends. But, you cannot repeat past mistakes. Friendship should benefit not only the future friends of our country, but also Russia.
    1. kubanec
      kubanec 25 December 2015 07: 54
      +3
      ----------- Friendship should benefit not only the future friends of our country, but Russia the same .-------- NO, BEFORE ALL RUSSIA, and then friends !!!!
    2. heal
      heal 25 December 2015 08: 38
      +7
      Quote: L.A. A.
      When Russia will regain great power

      For this, it is necessary that the people begin to live with dignity in the country. With poor people, a country cannot be powerful.
  8. Roust
    Roust 25 December 2015 07: 50
    +4
    THE USSR. It was a good time. People were kinder. It all depends on ourselves.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 December 2015 08: 10
    +3
    We were all brothers then. But as time shows, not all brothers were able to keep their "relationship". It makes no sense to list those now independent states and semi-states - we all know them perfectly.
    As it turned out - his shirt is closer to the body. fellow
  10. Belousov
    Belousov 25 December 2015 08: 27
    0
    Alas, the USSR will not.
    The USSR is primarily not a territory, not an army, but people, including and in the manual. Can someone imagine now that Dvorkovichi-Nabiullins-Chubais-Sechins-Millers-Medvedev-Rottenbergs and others worked exclusively for the good of Russia?
    The USSR is the ideology of equality of all peoples and nationalities, and not the ideology of genocide of the Russian people. The USSR is the ability to defend the interests of the country, and not the desire to receive Nobel prizes and pat on the shoulder for the destruction of the BZHRK, for the delivery of a unique wiretap system in the American embassy, ​​for maintaining the American economy by investing its own profits in treasury bonds, etc.
  11. Svetovod
    Svetovod 25 December 2015 08: 29
    +2
    An autonomous union like the USSR is needed to repel the threat. We are pricked all the time, wanting to kill and divide. The threat is clear ahead. Enemies will starve and create their own "unions" (like) to bang on us. How to be?

    As anyone does not like the word "HERD", but the herd is a way to survive. And an independent calf, an independent and deep personality, who does not want to live in a herd, will be eaten first (Lithuania, Latvia, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, etc.).

    That is, that is, in the world, a people who are sympathetic with any other people without a thought take it and rob it, which can not be said about those same peoples that take root in the herd, but jackals are no worse than lions that are nearby. The Russians must collect all this again into one big and strong one.
    And for starters - Kill the goon inside you. Slander ruined the USSR, and not Gorbachev, who only pushed goons.
    Amen.
  12. Linkin
    Linkin 25 December 2015 08: 31
    -1
    Iran meant everyone for money, and Assad dances to the tune of Iran, so everything in the article is too optimistic ...
  13. Приговор
    Приговор 25 December 2015 08: 41
    +2
    A gang of traitors Gorbachev-Yeltsin killed my country. My homeland. Divided into 15 pieces, pitted them among themselves and pumps out resources by a continuous stream to the West. That I just didn’t give, to return my native USSR. I would give all the most expensive that I have.
  14. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 25 December 2015 08: 48
    0
    The author has an interesting map :) Iraq Iran Turkey is a member of the USSR-2.0, but Syria is not.
    1. kubanec
      kubanec 25 December 2015 09: 22
      0
      --------- An interesting map is with the author :) Iraq Iran Turkey is a member of the USSR-2.0, but Syria is not ..-------- IRAQ DOESN'T ALSO CONSIDER, SEE. Although I would add Iraq , and Syria, and Bulgaria with Moldova, and Greece with Macedonia, and Serbia with Montenegro .......
      1. Loreal
        Loreal 25 December 2015 10: 33
        0
        The Kuril Islands are yellowed, it’s clear where the map comes from - the brothers disagree
  15. Kadex
    Kadex 25 December 2015 10: 41
    0
    Eka we swung! smile Here, at least within the borders of the EAEU, it will strengthen.
    PySy: Author, where do you get such cards?
  16. O_s_c_a_R
    O_s_c_a_R 25 December 2015 11: 40
    +3
    The country of the Soviets was destroyed by capital. Shadow capital accumulated by unearned income, with the help of underweight, shortfalls, shortfalls, shortcomings, bribes, the release of counterfeit goods in clandestine workshops, hiding the income of enterprises
  17. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 25 December 2015 12: 11
    +3
    Pros..if we are the USSR. We all! And not just communists or bureaucrats. And I'm not taking my guilt off myself. Obedient people, who, by and large, didn't really care what was going on at the top. We got used to the fact that all issues are resolved without us, and we only raised our hands at meetings, expressed our approval and giggled. When everyone is lost, the beginning comes. What is there to push on the states or world capitalism. At that time, the system had degenerated, discredited itself. And they got us as they wanted, our former communists and Komsomol members, "red directors", etc. quickly attached to the national wealth.
  18. marat023
    marat023 25 December 2015 12: 14
    +2
    do not confuse corrupt politicians from the countries of the former USSR with ordinary people
  19. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 25 December 2015 13: 33
    +2
    In the USSR there was a right to work; the right to free education, the right to decent social security in old age,
    right to housing. All these rights were really guaranteed.

    Were these rights worth the rights to rallies? to political associations? To parasitism? Theft? That is, those rights that capitalism brought?

    For me, it’s not worth it. These are secondary, meaningless, paper rights. In the USSR, there was quite a normal democracy for the people (except for certain periods; but one cannot equate the USSR = Stalin. Stalin is a symbol of the USSR, but he does not define and does not absorb the concept of Soviet society throughout its history).

    Gorbachev started "democratic transformations"; instead of engaging in light industry, the agrarian sector, industrialization at a new technical level - he decided to replace all this by granting the right to yell at rallies, to write libels about the Soviet system to newspapers, to emigrate freely (as if someone was waiting there, yeah ), openly engage in prostitution, parasitism and homosexuality (Yeltsin formally allowed, but they stopped massively catching homosexuals even under Gorbachev).

    Gorbachev gave birth to Yeltsin, who already (unlike Gorbachev) did not want to act in conditions of a historically formed social system. But Yeltsin created devastation, famine, homelessness, the extinction of the population, military conflicts and the collapse of all spheres of society. All this came at the same time as capitalism; so, legally write capitalism = devastation, famine, homelessness, extinction of the population, military conflicts and collapse.

    What did you have to do?

    If we admit the true thesis is that the state economy is less efficient than private; it was necessary, as I already wrote once, to carry out privatization through a system of personal privatization, not monetary, accounts that do not generate oligarchy, but create a middle class.

    It was necessary to initially stop the theft of state property and close cross-border currency transactions for individuals and organizations (except for a short list of special export-import) so that capital acquired over 70 years does not flow abroad, turning simultaneously into private accumulations of all kinds of Khodorkovsky.

    To solve the problem of deficit by not popular rigid adjustment of the volume of commodity supply to the money supply. That is - a monetary reform, with the identification of everything "overworked"and its cancellation. And the rise in prices. Probably multiple, but not tens and hundreds of times; all the same, prices rose, but it was necessary to do it, remaining within the framework of the Soviet system.

    Yes, a lot of things could be done differently than was done.
    1. not main
      not main 26 December 2015 00: 32
      0
      Quote: Gormengast
      It was necessary to initially stop the theft of state property and close cross-border currency transactions for individuals and organizations

      But it’s true! I remember how in Vapnyarka, at the oil depot, all fuels and lubricants disappeared in one night with a global shortage at the gas station! And no one hid that all fuels and lubricants went to the west! BUT IN 1990 UKRAINE WAS A PART OF THE USSR! Although they have already invented "coupons" - a clever move!
  20. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 25 December 2015 15: 23
    +1
    Author, change the map to the article, otherwise it doesn’t work out well, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Mongolia were included in the USSR 2.0, and the Kuril Islands were given to Japan. laughing
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 25 December 2015 16: 39
      +1
      In fact, did they draw a map with the back left foot?
      For this squalor, and for another cry about Gaddafi - he put the article a minus.
  21. Megatron
    Megatron 25 December 2015 16: 16
    +2
    It may be enough in this article to write this nonsense about Gaddafi, he was never our friend, he lived on his own, tried to keep his nose in the wind, kept money in Western banks and financed the election of Sarkozy, and he eventually leaked it.
    And the question is - what does Russia have to do with it ???
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 25 December 2015 16: 42
      +1
      And yours and ours, and for three kopecks we will dance. So I got my own. Russia did not betray him, as many believe for some reason, since Gaddafi was not our ally. As he himself argued, he had "correct socialism, but we have wrong", so that the USSR, even if it was at that time, would not intercede. hi
      1. Megatron
        Megatron 25 December 2015 17: 03
        0
        One has already danced, "multi-vector" - Vitenka Fyodorovich, now they play the same games with passion with Nazar, but apparently they think that they are more cunning than the Yanuca.
  22. avva2012
    avva2012 25 December 2015 16: 29
    +1
    Quote: Gormengast

    Gorbachev gave birth to Yeltsin, who already (unlike Gorbachev) did not want to act in conditions of a historically formed social system. But Yeltsin created devastation, famine, homelessness, the extinction of the population, military conflicts and the collapse of all spheres of society.

    Here, something, to me, it reminds: Isaac, begat Jacob ...
    Quote: Gormengast
    In the USSR, there was quite a normal democracy for the people (except for certain periods; but one cannot equate the USSR = Stalin. Stalin is a symbol of the USSR, but he does not define and does not absorb the concept of Soviet society throughout its history).

    Do you think that there was no democracy under Stalin? Remember the translation of this word, "power of the people." It is power, not elections anywhere. Did the people really have power? Apparently yes. If, you think otherwise, then you will have to tell honestly, "the war was won by the barrage detachments and political instructors who shoot the lagging soldiers." And if, you think that under I.V. Stalin, there was a real democracy, then everything falls into place, "the people fought to the death to protect their power."
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 25 December 2015 16: 36
      +1
      Quote: avva2012
      then everything falls into place, "the people fought to the death to defend their power."

      because power and the motherland were not a separate concept, today we have power separately, the motherland separately .. and propaganda doesn’t succeed, it’s possible to combine it together
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 25 December 2015 16: 51
        0
        Nikolay, what do you do, the Person in History!
        What Westerners will never understand is that in Russia, in reality, there are many people who love their homeland. How to explain to a stranger this heady feeling: "Crimea, ours!" It's not about territory, it's about justice. And, if again, we have Stalin, then the Motherland and power will be reunited. There will be, what is the basis of the "Russian world" (of all nationalities), this is Justice. That's for her, and died, and worked for 16 hours in the rear. hi
  23. avva2012
    avva2012 25 December 2015 17: 21
    0
    Quote: Megatron
    One has already danced, "multi-vector" - Vitenka Fyodorovich, now they play the same games with passion with Nazar, but apparently they think that they are more cunning than the Yanuca.

    Dont sorry, yo happy. Sorry for my French, but I didn’t understand the fuck. Translate into Russian, the call signs of the liaison (Yanuka, I realized who, probably ...). wassat
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 25 December 2015 19: 05
      0
      Yanukovich Viktor Fedorovich
      But father - Lukashenko
      Nazar - Nazarbayev
  24. Yak28
    Yak28 25 December 2015 17: 36
    -1
    Quote: bandabas
    As for the peoples, I would say. Everywhere there are normal people. But Muscovites in the camps (children’s, labor, sports, etc.) and in Krasnaya extinguished. Leningraders, as a rule, were not touched. Ah, now St. Petersburg.

    Probably the Muscovites were more educated and this caused envy among the unicellulars, personally in front of me the Muscovites, the visitors are usually fawning, and the Ukrainians are generally sneaky, and what kind of bastards are you all going to Moscow for the bad Muscovites?
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 25 December 2015 20: 03
      -2
      All are not twisted! Otherwise, Muscovites would have become 140 million. There will be a salary in the country no worse than Moscow, in general no one will go! And why do you have such salaries there - the whole country knows.
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  25. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 25 December 2015 17: 48
    0
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    historical practice has shown that communism is inferior to capitalism in vitality

    In the early 70s. The West was losing outright. But the USSR did not begin to finish him off, as the West itself did towards the USSR in the late 80s. In the USSR, the Politburo gathered and decided what to do, finish off or help? We decided to help, as we came to the conclusion that it is impossible to control the entire globe alone. Now this help comes around to us. And the United States now has the same situation, the impossibility of a unipolar world. But the USSR immediately understood this and refused, and the United States still clings to it. Well, "exceptional" does not reach them.
  26. su163
    su163 25 December 2015 17: 51
    0
    Quote: strelets
    And what is wrong with the revival of the USSR? The peoples lived together under one roof, a good social policy, and the regular improvement of the elite through social elevators. Among other things. In the year 91, everyone voted to preserve the USSR.

    To vote, they voted .... and Who ruined everything?
  27. Pavel_J
    Pavel_J 25 December 2015 18: 01
    0
    Well now do not be surprised why the Chinese have gone maps of China if we ourselves publish maps where we want to draw something from China. However, it is politically incorrect =)
  28. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 25 December 2015 19: 00
    +1
    THE SUN WILL COME AGAIN!
  29. Yak28
    Yak28 25 December 2015 20: 42
    0
    Quote: housewife
    All are not twisted! Otherwise, Muscovites would have become 140 million. There will be a salary in the country no worse than Moscow, in general no one will go! And why do you have such salaries there - the whole country knows.

    What salaries tell? Muscovites, unlike visitors, cannot rent apartments in Moscow, there will not be enough money
  30. Yak28
    Yak28 25 December 2015 21: 00
    0
    Quote: Robert Nevsky
    THE SUN WILL COME AGAIN!

    Of course, communism is inevitable, a matter of time
  31. kapitan92
    kapitan92 25 December 2015 21: 47
    +4
    Quote: Roust
    THE USSR. It was a good time. People were kinder. It all depends on ourselves.

    Housing issue just messed them up

    People are like people. They love money, but it has always been ... Mankind loves money, no matter what it is made of, whether from leather, from paper, from bronze or gold. Well, frivolous ... well, then ... ordinary people ... in general, resemble the former ... the housing issue only spoiled them ...
    Mikhail Bulgakov, "The Master and Margarita"


    Read more: http://quote-citation.com/book/15#ixzz3vMMarpCz
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  33. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 26 December 2015 00: 00
    +1


    By standing up
  34. gregor6549
    gregor6549 26 December 2015 03: 38
    +1
    The article is titled about the USSR in the Middle East, but in fact it is about Russia's actions in that region. and these are two big differences. The USSR began to actively influence the situation in the Middle East, mainly during the Second World War, when Soviet troops were brought into Iran. This influence began to increase in the post-war period when Britain / Britain began to withdraw its troops from the Near Visiting Eye. The USSR immediately took advantage of the situation and supported in the UN the idea of ​​creating the States of Israel, hoping that a large number of Jewish immigrants from Russia in Palestine would help implement the plans of the Council of the Leadership in that region, up to including Israel in the USSR as one of the autonomies. This plan was not destined to come true and the USSR relied on Israel's "sworn friends" Egypt, Syria, etc., having armed these friends at the most and pushing them with all their might to a final solution of the Jewish question in Palestine. The results, alas, were not at all those expected from friends. Moreover, there was a moment when, in response to the increasing pressure from the USSR, Israel to understand that if Israel is brought to the brink of destruction, it will have enough strength and means to deliver a nuclear strike on the most important centers in the European territory of the USSR and the radius of delivery vehicles for nuclear weapons will be enough to reach Moscow. And the United States made it clear that any attempt by the USSR to destroy Israel would be regarded as an aggression against an ally of the United States and would lead to the start of a full-scale nuclear war between the United States and its allies and the USSR. After such hints, the ambitions of the USSR sharply declined, and Egypt, regarding this as the weakness of the USSR, immediately sold itself to the United States, threw out all its military advisers from its country and tried to forget about the multibillion-dollar debt to the USSR. Now Russia operates in that region much more carefully trying to balance between Israel and its "friends". This is not always possible, but Rome was not built immediately. In any case, it should be noted that once having agreed on something with Russia, Israel, unlike many of its "friends": does not suit Russia and keeps its word.
  35. LEX SU
    LEX SU 26 December 2015 03: 43
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    Quote: Michael-rl
    There was, after all, an oversized iron curtain. There is no such thing now in China. The people were lured by slogans - "Look in the West there is Chanel, McDonald's, fashionable jeans, etc." - after the collapse, you will have enough of this - you will be rich, ride abroad, etc. And when the people realized that this was all crap, it was already too late (although some peoples come across a second time =)). It is quite possible that if there was more open access to everything, with reasonable censorship, the people would already know that this was not that worth it. The one who needed it - he has already cleaned up his factories and is satisfied.
    China still has freer access to everything "capitalist".


    a very interesting train of thought ... and probably the correct move would be ...
    it is dosed to give out pieces of the West and then there would be no such "momentary rapture"