France first used cruise missiles against militants in the Middle East

Information Agency France-Presse reports that France for the first time used cruise missiles against the fighters DAISH (ISIL). From the airfields of Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, 12 of French military aircraft rose, which attacked air-launched cruise missiles at the positions of the terrorist group.

At the same time, various French sources for some reason write about different goals. Some argue that the fighters of the so-called "Islamic State" french cruise missiles overtook in Syria, others write that the defeat of the targets took place in Iraq. Still others prefer not to tell at all where exactly the French aircraft decided to send the deadly one. weapon.

It should be recalled that earlier the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle arrived at the shores of Syria. His arrival was widely announced. At the same time in Paris, it was reported that he would ostensibly coordinate his actions with Russia. However, later, a dispatch about the need to coordinate exclusively with the “American coalition” came to Paris from across the ocean, and the French aircraft carrier moved to the Persian Gulf urgently and without any announcements.

Comments

[sherman1506]

Finches, and we have long been there.

[Denis Obukhov]

Something silence about exactly where they got ... to the barracks, hospital or bulldozer (according to the rules of the United States) or at least one field commander was covered

[Tatyana]

Haettenschweiler (4)
For France, the war with ISIS is a show of pure water. They are French), unlike USA and, apparently, Russia they don’t even have any profit from this, as far as one can judge.

Alas! The French also have their own “profit” from ISIS smuggling oil stolen from Syria and Iraq.
It has already been established that their legal and illegal “profit” from the purchase of ISIS oil through Turkish ports have: ISRAEL (!!!), France, Greece, Italy, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Netherlands, Cyprus, USA.
Therefore, it is not surprising that the military operations of the French Armed Forces in Syria against ISIS are so non-transparent for the public.

See article from 14 December 2015
How Turkey and Israel rob Syria and Iraq by exporting Islamic state oil - investigation
https://eadaily.com/news/2015/12/14/kak-turciya-i-izrail-grabyat-siriyu-i-irak-e

ksportiruya-neft-islamskogo-gosudarstva-rassledovanie

[Hello]

Quote: Tatiana

Alas! The French also have their own “profit” from ISIS smuggling of stolen oil in Syria and Iraq.
It has already been established that their legal and illegal “profit” from the purchase of ISIS oil from Turkey and its criminal structures directly from ISIS have: Israel (!!!), France, Greece, Italy, Germany, Austria, Hungary, the Netherlands, Cyprus, USA .
Therefore, it is not surprising that the military operations of the French Armed Forces in Syria against ISIS are so non-transparent for the public.

See article from 14 December 2015
How Turkey and Israel rob Syria and Iraq by exporting Islamic state oil - investigation
https://eadaily.com/news/2015/12/14/kak-turciya-i-izrail-grabyat-siriyu-i-irak-e

ksportiruya-neft-islamskogo-gosudarstva-rassledovanie

Well, finally you found world evil not in vain. After Israel, you put 3 (three) exclamation points, but please forgive me. I have a couple of questions.
From your link

In August, the Financial Times reported that Israel receives 75% of its oil from Northern Kurdistan. A third - through the port of Ceyhan, which American investigators already called the possible gates of oil smuggling from the "Islamic State"

I just wanted to ask if northern Kurdistan gives us oil, what do we pay Azerbaijan for? And yet, yes, Azerbaijani oil to Israel flows quite possibly through Ceyhan, it so happened that there are two pipelines, one from Iraq and the other from Azerbaijan through Georgia.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B6%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1%85%D0%B0%D0%BD

Ceyhan (tur. Ceyhan) is a city and district in the province of Adana in Turkey with a population of 180 thousand inhabitants (data for 2000). The main economic significance of the city stems from its function as the final destination of two oil pipelines and from the oil port existing in it. An older pipeline delivers oil from northern Iraq. The new Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan oil pipeline has been delivering Caspian oil from Azerbaijan since May 25, 2005.

[Comrade Bender]

So, one does not exclude the other. If there is an opportunity for "freebies", then why not take advantage of this and Israel?

[skifd]

[i] Hello IL[/ I] Today, 21: 30 ↑
Quote: Tatiana
Alas! The French also have their own “profit” from ISIS smuggling of stolen oil in Syria and Iraq.
It has already been established that their legal and illegal “profit” from the purchase of ISIS oil from Turkey and its criminal structures directly from ISIS have: Israel (!!!), France, Greece, Italy, Germany, Austria, Hungary, the Netherlands, Cyprus, USA .
Therefore, it is not surprising that the military operations of the French Armed Forces in Syria against ISIS are so non-transparent for the public.

See article from 14 December 2015
How Turkey and Israel rob Syria and Iraq by exporting Islamic state oil - investigation
https://eadaily.com/news/2015/12/14/kak-turciya-i-izrail-grabyat-siriyu-i-irak-e



ksportiruya-neft-islamskogo-gosudarstva-rassledovanie
Well, finally found a world evil for good reason, after Israel you put 3 (three) exclamation points

Please comment, sir. And then about "netorgovlE" with ISIS oil "stuff". Screen with "auto-translation", and here is the link:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/02/05/isis-idf-link/

Is there something to "refute" from your "friends" ??

[Tatyana]

Hello
I just wanted to ask, since northern Kurdistan gives us oil, what do we pay Azerbaijan for?

Dear Hello! I refine my post and answer your question.
The article in my article is not about oil, as such, in general, as a whole, (!) Supplied to Israel from all different sources through Turkey; and we are talking about the transit of only ISIS (!) - DUMPING (!) - oil to ISRAEL, which allows Israel to re-export oil further around the world because of the proximity of its geographical location to Turkish ports, i.e. to resell oil - already on behalf of Israel - to other countries.
It goes without saying that Azerbaijan, for sure, DOESN’t sell its oil to Israel at dumping prices, such as ISIS. Israel pays to Azerbaijan for non-stolen oil. Therefore, REEXPORT of Azerbaijani oil to Israel is not profitable - neither is it about Azerbaijan oil in the article I mentioned and in my post.

[atalef]

Quote: Tatiana

collectively (!) supplied to Israel from all different sources through Turkey; and we are talking about the transit of only ISIL (!) - DUMPING (!) - oil to ISRAEL, which allows Israel, due to the proximity of its geographical location to Turkish ports, to re-export oil further around the world, i.e., to resell oil - already on behalf of Israel - to other countries.

Dear Tatiana, I will answer you very simply
1 Well, the first, why the heck to the Turks (given mutual * love). to drive oil through Israel, and not to sell it ourselves - this is the time.
2 Well, the second one is much simpler, and so, the windows of my office go straight to the oil port of Haifa and all the tankers go there - well, about 70 meters - 100 from my windows.
I don’t see anything that’s out of the ordinary in terms of the frequency of tanker calls.
Somehow like this.

[Tatyana]

Dear atalef (8)! And the article that I recommended in my first post, you read? Everything is written in detail there.

1. Well, firstly, why the heck to the Turks (given mutual * love). to drive oil through Israel, and not to sell it ourselves - this is the time.

Yes they do it too! But if Israel can not buy through an intermediary, then it also buys from ISIS.

2 .... Nothing out of the ordinary, from the point of view of the frequency of call of tankers I do not see.

And you won't see! According to the documents, everything is "laundered" together in Turkey. Read the article carefully. There is everything about it.

[ASK505]

Quote: atalef

Dear Tatyana

Sasha, a little remark. So, by the way. Personal names are written in Russian with a capital letter. Remember! "Dear Tatyana! You are perfection in the flesh And not the slightest flaw In you, my angel, can not be found! Your soul is all wide open And it hurts for everyone ..." We all here also have a soul that hurts for the Russian World.

[Hello]

Quote: Tatiana

FTI to ISRAEL, which allows Israel, due to the proximity of its geographical location to Turkish ports, to re-export oil further around the world, i.e., to resell oil - already on behalf of Israel - to other countries.

Tatyana’s whole problem is that Israel does not export or re-export oil

[Tatyana]

Hello
Tatyana’s whole problem is that Israel does not export or re-export oil

Dear Hello! I think you are mistaken - a journalistic investigation into the transport of smuggled oil suggests otherwise.
When talking about Israel, it is most likely a question of private companies and mafia structures with “kickbacks” by government officials, with corruption. It should be borne in mind that ISIL’s oil production in Syria and Iraq is such - as the pictures of transported oil show - that without export Turkey would have long been choked with this oil. But this, however, does not happen. Moreover, only Turkey itself is unlikely to be able to re-export such an amount of oil flow to its country in re-export. For this, there are inconspicuous foreign intermediaries and brokers. It is clear that this is clearly a dark matter. Mafia she is the mafia. Therefore, they began to investigate it.
And here is how those who are involved in this issue assess the situation. See the article.

experts (Al-Araby Al-Jadeed) contacted people close to the IS via Skype, but they said that they do not care where and how their oil gets. They sell it to intermediaries and brokers. On this their participation in the "export" of oil ends.

And where do intermediaries and brokers come from? Read

“Without Israel, oil from ISIS would not have spread beyond Iraq, Syria and Turkey. They trust this country, ”Al-Araby Al-Jadeed said.

Agree, this statement is expensive and sheds light on a lot.
I refer you to the publication from which I draw information. There are other publications on the Internet.

[Hello]

Quote: Tatiana

Dear Hello! I think you are mistaken - a journalistic investigation into the transport of smuggled oil suggests otherwise.

A journalistic investigation deals with facts such as

experts (Al-Araby Al-Jadeed) contacted people close to the IS via Skype, but they said that they do not care where and how their oil gets. They sell it to intermediaries and brokers. On this their participation in the "export" of oil ends.

What gets ridiculous is discussing it. And Israeli journalists are dreaming of corruption scandals, and they will sell the soul to the devil for evidence of communication with the IS. So what? Not a single article on a topic in Israeli serious publications, not a word from Russia that instantly cites evidence of oil supplies to Turkey, but nothing with Israel. So it goes.

[Tatyana]

Dear Hello! You expressed a very interesting thought, to which I paid attention, namely

Israeli journalists dream of CORRUPTION scandals, let alone for evidence of communication with the IS, they will sell the soul to the devil.

And how can you personally explain this? Is there no corruption in Israel? And all these investigations are just journalistic "pranks" ?!

[Tatyana]

Dear Hello!
They don't joke with exposing materials in the media - for them, the journalist and the publisher can simply "blow off" their head! take away your career! to imprison! For such a risk, journalists must have very good reasons for publishing.

[Hello]

Quote: skifd

Comment sir

Yes, please, about this sacred for half of the world, the "UN report" has not heard only the deaf. The question arises why the officials of such countries as Russia, the USA, Britain, France, etc. did not bother to condemn or at least comment on the topic, and by the way Comrade Prime Minister of Israel I also ignored this topic, what a suspicious unanimity. Although perhaps it was just such a quality report?

[derik1970]

No one knows what you are paying to Azeirbajan, it is important that you yourself are in the know and okay. And she’s a freebie in Africa, a freebie, especially for Israel.

[Kindof]

The entry of cheap stolen oil into the market has brought down oil prices
There are at least two participants in this dumping: a seller and a buyer
The fact that it is not only economically viable, but also allows you to hit an export-dependent Russia justifies any deal - even with evil spirits.

Do not tell me that if Israel’s neighbors began to buy barrels from DAISH for 20, then Israel will stand by and stubbornly continue to buy the same volumes from Azerbaijan for 100 ..
And do not even try to push the supplier to reduce ...

[Extraneous]

Almost everyone is involved in the purchase of this oil.
A month and a half ago, the States sold a fair share of oil from their STRATEGIC reserves and brought oil from Syria. Remember the story of an accumulation of tankers off the coast of the USA?
Europe receives oil through Turkey and Bulgaria.
Israel has a gesheft in the Golan, where it is actively developing the deposits found there. Give, of course, are not going to.
Assad himself is also forced to buy oil products, since all the fields were taken away from him, and somehow it is necessary to fight and support vital activities. So, most likely, he also buys through the same Kurds.
The Saudis mix Syrian oil in their own, like the Turks, and therefore keep prices low.

[Horn]

And what about the gas field near Israel? Did not start development? Are you going to drive gas into the pipe, or, if not stupid people, will they process it?

[Simon]

Yes, they sent their cruise missiles somewhere far into the Pacific Ocean, and let everyone in the "canard" that cruise missiles were launched at ISIS.

[Chekyst]

- Who cares? For France, the war with LIH - window dressing of pure water. They, unlike the USA and, apparently, Russia, do not even have any profit from this, as far as one can judge.[/ Quote]
Well, we must show the people of France that their government is taking at least some measures, and does not suffer from garbage after the attacks.

[MIKHALYCH1]

From the airfields of Jordan and the United Arab Emirates

Libya, Iraq, Syria washing themselves with blood ... Soon, and their turn will come! But we will not give Syria ...

[avia1991]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

- "We will not eat, but we will take it out!" - yeah, passed already ...

Well, why are you so worried? With your flag you need to think about how to maneuver between the crowds of Muslim "refugees"

[Altona]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

Something silence about exactly where they got ... to the barracks, hospital or bulldozer (according to the rules of the United States) or at least one field commander was covered

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This is generally the tenth question, the action was of a propaganda nature. The newspaper Le Monde has already published an obscene illustration where Hollande is fucking Putin from behind, both wearing sadomaso props - collars, chains, and leather wristbands. That is, it makes sense that the West and France allegedly seize the initiative from Russia, with the opening of a "second front".

[mmmsoc]

Well, they can intercept from us (but pi .... lei).

[cniza]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

Something silence about exactly where they got ... to the barracks, hospital or bulldozer (according to the rules of the United States) or at least one field commander was covered

Everyone is trying to try on a new brand ... we can also use cruise missiles ... do not strain, you are already late.

[-Traveler-]

what is it new, tomahawks have long been flying

[Irokez]

That's when it will be like the picture then it's cool and you can believe it, and so ...

[Olfred]

maybe this is the reason for the silence, that despite the amers they got "where they need to" ... all the same, the recent terrorist attacks sobered the "burning heads" in the government, that the fight against terror is not a toy

[Al_oriso]

The good thing is that their missiles did not fall on the Syrian army.

[Turbo rabbit]

- Midshipman, visually inspect if the missiles are gone!
- The missiles are gone!
- Oh tyzh, and they gave me captri. Probably got to somewhere ...
Features of nat fishing

[79807420129]

Yes, fie on them France became some kind of operetta under Hollande, they fired no one knows where with rackets, swam on an aircraft carrier, and that's all?

[Altona]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

Tales about the exploits of "resistance" appeared after the war and do not deserve any credibility.

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Especially touching are the photographs of the resistance poppies with the Thompson submachine guns. How with such a weapon you can resist the police car of the invaders, it is not clear?

[zennon]

Quote: Altona

Especially touching are the photographs of the resistance poppies with the Thompson submachine guns.

I like this one more:

[Extraneous]

:) That's why the amerikrysy included them among the winners! And the "doll" De Gaulle was the only one of all Europapuans who managed to knock out the French gold reserves from the states. After which, of course, he became "objectionable" and the states organized a coup against him.
Study history, American.

[avia1991]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

And, yes, I am no less Russian than you.

It is noticeable, especially in the avatar.
It seems that the "new history", which is being actively introduced into the minds of the West, has begun to seep into your head slightly.
Let me remind you: "Russian is not a nationality. THIS IS A STATE OF THE SOUL."
In accordance with this, it is not a fact that you are still Russian - there are enough "non-Russians" even with a Russian passport.

[Weyland]

Quote: Stranger

That's why the American races included them in the list of winners!

It was precisely at the signing of Germany's surrender that Jodl asked ironically: these - did they defeat us too? "
But about the gold reserve - yes, here de Gaulle is a fine fellow!

[Dart2027]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

De Gaulle was just as much a useless theater puppet

Unlike the rest, he knew how to fight.

[avia1991]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

- I beg your pardon, did he say that?

Give examples of his "inept" actions, "expert on History"? It will immediately become clear WHOSE HISTORY you are studying.

[Dart2027]

On the eve of the war, he did his best to convince the country's leadership of the need to develop tank forces. He also put forward the theory that success in war lies in the interaction of different types of troops, especially tanks and the air force. And during the war he was the only one who achieved at least some success before France surrendered.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

That is, you value him not for "actions", but for "attempts to persuade"?

And what actions should have been taken before the outbreak of hostilities? Please enlighten?

Quote: Haettenschweiler

Not the first, not the only, or even the best.

Who are you talking about?

[Horn]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Haettenschweiler

De Gaulle was just as much a useless theater puppet

Unlike the rest, he knew how to fight.

And where did he fight victoriously?

[Dart2027]

The counterattacks that he commanded were quite effective. Another thing is that it was a local success.

[zennon]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

France did not have any decisive influence on the course of the war - it was quickly defeated and until the invasion of the Allies lay flat and did not flutter.

Not quite so. After the occupation of Northern France in 1940 and the creation of the Vichy regime in the south of the country, until May 1945, many French volunteers under the banners of dozens of units and formations of the armed forces and auxiliary organizations of the Third Reich. There were tens of thousands of such French volunteers (at least 80 thousand French passed through the SS alone), and as a result, French citizens made up the largest Western European people in terms of numbers, who fought on the side of Nazi Germany in World War II. 23 136 people are French citizens. Compared to this, the several hundred (after the war they started talking about thousands) who took part in the resistance look simply comical. France worked hard on the labor front.
In total, France and the Czech Republic provided Hitler with about 10 thousand tanks, self-propelled guns and basic vehicles for their development only. The Americans calculated that every eighth engine for the Luftwaffe was manufactured in France. However, German aircraft were produced there as a whole. For example, Ju-52s were manufactured not only on the territory of the Reich, but also by the French Amiot plant. The production of the Messerschmitts was set there on such a foot that it continued after the war. Monsieur Renault made for the Fuhrer 25 thousand 2,5-ton trucks of ANS models and 4 thousand 3,5-ton ANN trucks. The contribution of Monsieur Peugeot turned out to be somewhat smaller - only 15 thousand trucks. And finally, the third automobile king of France, Monsieur Citroen, released 6000 2-ton 23R type cars and 4700 4,5-ton 45 type cars to the joy of the leader. Having done the simplest arithmetic operations, we find that French cars make up 19% of the total truck fleet in 1940-44. There is so much data that I just do not fit into the post.

[zennon]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

- I beg your pardon, I expressed myself inaccurately. I meant the role of France in the fight against the Third Reich.

I understood. Unfortunately, the whole role was reduced to a couple of dozen burned-out trucks, and not a great handful of killed Wehrmacht soldiers. But in the field of industrial production, the glorious sons of the Seine and Loire did not hit the dirt with an egg. I have so much material about the labor merits of the frogs before Adolph Aloizievich, that at least take out the saints! And this is not to mention the collaborators and direct participation in the war on the side of the Wehrmacht. Well, how the sons of the Reich were delayed on the Cote d'Azur and other parts of freedom-loving France is just a topic for another conversation. In the photo, the French are selling to German souvenirs for soldiers.

[Weyland]

Quote: zennon

There were tens of thousands of such French volunteers (at least 80 thousand French passed through the SS alone),

CHSH, the reistag was defended not by the Germans - but by the Latvians and French (SS Charlemagne Division
)

[ASK505]

Quote: zennon

There were tens of thousands of such French volunteers (at least 80 thousand French passed through the SS alone), and as a result, French citizens made up the largest in number

The media reported a figure of 200 Frenchmen in the ranks of the Hitlerite army. But it didn’t work and it won’t ride anymore. "Do you remember how he drove the whole of Europe. Your Bonaparte-brawler was the only one on us? We saw many Frenchmen then ..." Pushkin.

[Weyland]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

De Gaulle was just as much a useless theater puppet

"Fighting France" is, of course, a complete disgrace. But we are probably talking about de Gaulle's activities already in the presidency!

[zennon]

Quote: Weyland

"Fighting France" is, of course, a complete disgrace.

On May 8, 1945, the head of the German delegation, Field Marshal Keitel, having seen people in French military uniform among those present at the ceremony, could not help but wonder:
"How?! And these also defeated us, or what ?!
Keitel’s sarcasm was understandable, since literally less than five years ago it was
he presided over negotiations with the defeated French, announced the terms of an armistice to them and accepted their surrender! Many people visit the complex on Poklonnaya Gora in Moscow, but not many go around it from the rear. In vain. There is such a monument there. And who is the far left, huh?

[Fidel]

In-in. I remember "we are from the future"))
"What, these half-Jews also defeated us? "))

[avia1991]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

De Gaulle was just as much a useless theater puppet

De Gaulle was an officer under the French government!
I would have looked at you, if you thought in wartime do not execute the Order!

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

Which does not make him a great military leader.

You are still arguing with the victims of Soviet propaganda - in response to curtsies in the direction of Moscow (very rare), we made a nat. a hero in the minds of people, and a member of the anti-Hitler coalition, despite the INSANE contribution of France to the war (its economy worked for the Reich), and poppies were nonsense rather than a widespread phenomenon ..
PS read your comments agree with you a strange thing - the Gaullists in Russia are the same nonsense as the Putinites in France ...

[avia1991]

Quote: afdjhbn67

victims of Soviet propaganda

Oh, are you from the Soviet dissidents ?!
And what do you have on the avatar symbolism of the same years exhibited?
If you are "anti-Hollist", this does not mean that your opinion will change de Gaulle's role in History.

[sober]

When what the hell did they bomb?

"She died so dead!"

[oleg-gr]

It became envious. Russian bullets Caliber left and right, but the custodian is not. Suddenly, everyone will remember the Russian cruise missiles in Syria and the story of the Mistrals.

[Alexei]

Quote: oleg-gr

It became envious.

I doubt it. Recently, I have the impression that Syria is a kind of testing ground in which advanced countries demonstrate their strengths and test their military achievements in order to identify the strengths and weaknesses of their military equipment. Preparing for the big war. After all, we all understand that the war in Syria is a completely provoked conflict from the outside.

[soviet skytourist]

It became envious. Russian bullets Caliber left and right, but the custodian is not.

Zhirinovsky stood up for the RussiansGauges are good, but it’s time to put things in order at home too.

[ochakow703]

A lot of water in the Seine leaks before the French begin to think with their own heads and do as conscience tells them to.

[Extraneous]

The French are traders in the first place. Hence all their actions. Could not bargain with Russia, ran to the states. Do not forget: it was the French who played the first violin during the destruction of Gaddafi and the collapse of Libya.

[Kindof]

Sarkozy’s activity is also explained by private motives: he did not want to return the money that Gaddafi gave to the polls

[venaya]

French aircraft carrier quickly and without any announcements moved to the Persian Gulf

That's all the help from the French, to whom they help is already clear. They value their superiors more than the lives of their citizens. Question: how to convey this to the French themselves?

[varov14]

From the Persian Gulf it is apparently easier to fly to Syria, and standing near the coast of Syria, did not have time to fly up from the deck, look around, and already in Iraq - they slip past.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: venaya

That's all the help from the French, to whom they help is already clear. They value their superiors more than the lives of their citizens. Question: how to convey this to the French themselves?

Yoshkin pliers - don't get confused under your feet, it's already good! It's not "Normandy-Niemen" to steer, it's more and more difficult by orders of magnitude. If there were dear guests - would it be easier for ours? From their "tipfunov-tornadoes" sense that from the goat, and the stench is the same.

[iliitchitch]

I wonder what de Gaulle would do with Hollande if he were resurrected?

[Wolverine]

Frog stew with parmesan, in general they are noble cattle ...

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Wolverine

Frog stew with parmesan, in general they are noble cattle ...

You read what is going on there - it’s not tolerance, tolerance, it’s just that they’ll really scream, as if their Arabs do not fix it. Yes, they’ll tick off anyway, delay the inevitable. While in our cities it is impossible to imagine Tajik Chinatowns and Sharia courts. For once, there is a chance to learn from the mistakes of others, and not to run a rake.

[family tree]

Quote: iliitch

I wonder what de Gaulle would do with Hollande if he were resurrected?

Rather, what would his specialists do with him, from Corsica
Dreamers, those were still
If you knew, you would have looked and Katerina Khristoforovna would not have spoiled the artillery lieutenant

[tol100v]

Quote: iliitch

I wonder what de Gaulle would do with Hollande if he were resurrected?

Would do everything in the best intimate traditions of France! And more than once!

[iliitchitch]

Presumably to the Netherlands. Ugh, what bullshit to discuss. And where is De Treville with the Porthos? Do you know the secret of the origin of musketry hats with wide curved brim? And this is because the slop was poured out of the windows without looking, even though the cloak remained untouched ... And which of us is unwashed? The very last murdered Russian peasant always had a bathhouse once a week at least. Therefore, the PLAGES escaped the European ...

[Weyland]

Quote: iliitch

Therefore, the PLAGES escaped the European ...

Well, not quite. Recall from what the father of Dmitry Donskoy died?
These are cholera, typhoid fever and dysentery - "diseases of dirty hands", and fleas carry the plague (and their carrier - rats). In Russia, the plague was less common because the Inquisition "for the connection with the devil" burned not only a bunch of "witches", but almost all cats in Europe

[family tree]

Quote: Weyland

Well, not quite. Recall from what the father of Dmitry Donskoy died?

Ivan No. 4 Grozny, during the European pestilence, to introduce quarantine on the border, very cruel, managed to. You see, for this cruelty, he, the French, was nicknamed Vasilich

[Teberii]

The French decided to show that they also have modern weapons. It remains only to figure out where it flies.

[varov14]

Apparently they have no drones to show the public where it is falling. In the air, it does not remain hanging, anyway it falls somewhere.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Teberii

The French decided to show that they also have modern weapons. It remains only to figure out where it flies.

Something, somehow ... Well, really, let's imagine the political situation will make Putin climb into the fray. Why, we will tear that paper tiger NATO in a few hours with rockets, while without nuclear weapons. What will be the answer? Will they have time? Empty set. They are waiting for an armada of rusty tanks, and then the calibration will go to start. Already more than 1500 pcs are in stock, those who know whispered ... No, I don’t throw axes and do not suffer bloodthirstiness, but there remains only a yellow stone to wake up from the instigators of the mess, for the Russian patience of the meanness of the West is full. Yes, how long?

[pvv113]

apparently dispatch came to Paris from overseas

Against the owner, the paddlers do not dare to open their mouths

[Denis Obukhov]

It was such a feeling that before Russia they did not know what aviation and cruise missiles were for. and now it came to "so it was necessary to bomb them. But we thought for a year and a half."

[varov14]

Well, the terrorists are not Yugoslavia to iron them with tomahawks.

[Bronik]

a dispatch came about the need to coordinate actions exclusively with the "American coalition"

A step to the left, a step to the right is an escape, they were afraid of the Black Barak.

[Vladimir 1964]

At the same time, different French sources for some reason write about different goals. Some argue that the fighters of the so-called “Islamic State” French cruise missiles overtook in Syria, while others write that the defeat of targets took place in Iraq. Still others prefer not to tell where exactly the French planes decided to send deadly weapons.

Apart from irony and other emotions, the actions of the French Air Force do not really evoke. Especially in terms of performance. It seems that if they got there, there would be more "squeals of delight".

[ilya_oz]

Hardly strategic cruise missiles.

[Wiruz]

Well, they have good SCALPs with a declared range of 500 to> 1000 km. Quite good rockets. Truth to attribute them to strategic language does not rise. But tactical already. Something in between

[avdkrd]

Quote: Wiruz

Well, they have good SCALPs with a declared range of 500 to> 1000 km. Quite good rockets. Truth to attribute them to strategic language does not rise. But tactical already. Something in between

KR - the SCALP is based on the Apach KR, the range is 250 km and in the future should be increased to 400 km versus 150 km for the Apach.
Firing range, km 250
Rocket flight speed, km/h 1050
Starting weight of the rocket (without solid fuel boosters), kg 1230
Body length, mm 5100
Case width mm 630
Case height, mm 480

[From Germany]

I remember how Sarkozy, along with the naglitschami, flew into Libya and also fired with cruise missiles, and then, running their tails, ran to the merikos, they say no, help. Well, where does Hollande climb now? Shame on the whole world again? Clown, damn it.

[Wiruz]

What difference does Sarkozy disgrace then or not? Let's better see what Libya after that action turned

[hly]

It is a pity that the second "Normandie-Niemen" did not work out ....

[moskowit]

Got it? Something information is scarce ...

[mitrich]

Their people more than 120 people in Paris laid and they are only engaged in window dressing, paddles. And it was like a force for adults, with the release of Charles. So little broke, did not understand. I hope they will give more.

[Bjorn]

Like children, by golly. Today they delivered an aircraft carrier tomorrow removed. What are you afraid of? That the war between Turkey and Russia will begin? Or that their S-400 will bring down? Or is there a plan for them, for the whole Ento western coalition to leave Russia alone in the fight against terrorists? Like ah, we were offended fight ourselves. I’m looking at all this and losing my temper, a bunch of dibiloids. You’ve already gotten pictures in Europe on mobile phones with severed heads, but you’re blowing all your lips to Russia. There are simply no words.

[Kyrgyz]

Quote: Bjorn

Like children, by golly. Today they delivered an aircraft carrier tomorrow removed. What are you afraid of? That the war between Turkey and Russia will begin? Or that their S-400 will bring down? Or is there a plan for them, for the whole Ento western coalition to leave Russia alone in the fight against terrorists? Like ah, we were offended fight ourselves. I’m looking at all this and losing my temper, a bunch of dibiloids. You’ve already gotten pictures in Europe on mobile phones with severed heads, but you’re blowing all your lips to Russia. There are simply no words.

They were not particularly afraid, they do not need it, but they are forced within the framework of the "international" by provocations and an allied duty. They do not want to fight, to fight is the work of the United States, for this they are the United States and are loyal, and if they themselves are to fight, why endure so much from the United States? From Germany, a couple more planes were shaken out, those still show-off will pierce

[tol100v]

Quote: Bjorn

, and you still blow your lips on Russia.

On the offended - they carry water!

[Masya masya]

"Still others prefer not to say exactly where the French planes decided to send the deadly weapon." I wonder where? Or so show-off beat?

[KRIG55]

Yes, the Fifth Republic is over, and after De Gaulle there was no decent president. God willing, Marie Le Pen will restore her good name.

[soroKING]

Quote: iliitch

I wonder what de Gaulle would do with Hollande if he were resurrected?

would temporarily change orientation and have ...

[Silkway0026]

The French do not have to change orientation to have each other !!! They are Europeans, they can!

[Boa kaa]

in Paris from overseas, apparently, a dispatch came about the need to coordinate actions exclusively with the "American coalition", and the French aircraft carrier urgently and without any announcements moved to the Persian Gulf.

And how puffed up! How much righteous anger was there after the terrorist attacks ...
The steam boiler of indignation boiled up ... but the steam went into the whistle, and not into a practical fight with ISIS!
This is the whole French military charm ...
(on the picture: Oland - So should I go there?
- Obama - There, there, Monsieur Oland!)

[Kyrgyz]

Quote: BoA KAA

in Paris from overseas, apparently, a dispatch came about the need to coordinate actions exclusively with the "American coalition", and the French aircraft carrier urgently and without any announcements moved to the Persian Gulf.

And how puffed up! How much righteous anger was there after the terrorist attacks ...
The steam boiler of indignation boiled up ... but the steam went into the whistle, and not into a practical fight with ISIS!
This is the whole French military charm ...
(on the picture: Oland - So should I go there?
- Obama - There, there, Monsieur Oland!)

Maybe he thought that the center of IS is not in the Middle East, and who is not being decided to blow up there?

[Kyrgyz]

Has Iran merged or not? Without Iran, the ground part is questionable, without the ground forces, the issue cannot be resolved.

[Extraneous]

Quote: Kyrgyz

Has Iran merged or not? Without Iran, the ground part is questionable, without the ground forces, the issue cannot be resolved.

Iran is unable to provide enough forces to turn the tide. The three to five thousand he has in Syria does not change the overall picture.
Everything can change only when it is possible to remove the Saudis with Qatar and Turkey from the formula. They tried to remove the Saudis with the help of Yemen. They are trying to isolate the Turks from NATO and the EU with a subsequent change of power.
On the one hand, the United States is not against the weakening of Turkey as a strong player in the region. On the other hand, they fuel Erdogan's desire to bite off more in order to remove Russia from the alignment.

[Kyrgyz]

Quote: Stranger

Quote: Kyrgyz

Has Iran merged or not? Without Iran, the ground part is questionable, without the ground forces, the issue cannot be resolved.

Iran is unable to provide enough forces to turn the tide. The three to five thousand he has in Syria does not change the overall picture.
Everything can change only when it is possible to remove the Saudis with Qatar and Turkey from the formula. They tried to remove the Saudis with the help of Yemen. They are trying to isolate the Turks from NATO and the EU with a subsequent change of power.
On the one hand, the United States is not against the weakening of Turkey as a strong player in the region. On the other hand, they fuel Erdogan's desire to bite off more in order to remove Russia from the alignment.

The change of power in Turkey is unrealistic, support for Erdogan is very high and the opposition is subordinated to the form of generals, a democratic union of national minorities has the maximum possible and this is not enough if there is no one to move on earth except the Syrian army, which is disheveled and will not take out the confrontation with IS and Turkey (which apparently sensed a chance on the territory) then the war will never end there, the prospect of our company becomes unclear, initially there was Iran in the scheme, and the benefits of Iran from stabilization are higher than the benefits of Russia, if Iran comes out then we also have nothing to do.

[Extraneous]

The change of power in Turkey is quite real. Erdogan is too unpredictable and poorly managed. He is not convenient for the same states for his rabid policy, which brings to the public the role of states in this conflict. After the mistake of the Turkish pilots, who were supposed to shoot down our Su-24 over Turkish territory, and everything possible was done for this, and shot him down over Syria, - Erdogan was thrown on the table to the prosector, in the expectation that either Russia would respond with a blow - then it would be possible to try to squeeze Russia out of Syria with all NATO forces, or Erdogan will obey and this will all end there.
Erdogan became stubborn and Putin made a move that none of the Western analysts expected.
As a result, we have a catastrophic drop in Erdogan's rating in the eyes of the EU and the United States. More and more new revelations appear. Opposition pressure inside the country is increasing. Plus, Russia went directly to the Turkish Kurds.
Everything is ready for a change of power. The United States is now keeping Erdogan only counting on the scanty possibility that Erdogan will go into a direct military clash with Russia. If this does not happen in the near future, then a more manageable replacement will be selected for him.

[Kyrgyz]

Quote: Stranger

The change of power in Turkey is quite real. Erdogan is too unpredictable and poorly managed. He is not convenient for the same states for his rabid policy, which brings to the public the role of states in this conflict. After the mistake of the Turkish pilots, who were supposed to shoot down our Su-24 over Turkish territory, and everything possible was done for this, and shot him down over Syria, - Erdogan was thrown on the table to the prosector, in the expectation that either Russia would respond with a blow - then it would be possible to try to squeeze Russia out of Syria with all NATO forces, or Erdogan will obey and this will all end there.
Erdogan became stubborn and Putin made a move that none of the Western analysts expected.
As a result, we have a catastrophic drop in Erdogan's rating in the eyes of the EU and the United States. More and more new revelations appear. Opposition pressure inside the country is increasing. Plus, Russia went directly to the Turkish Kurds.
Everything is ready for a change of power. The United States is now keeping Erdogan only counting on the scanty possibility that Erdogan will go into a direct military clash with Russia. If this does not happen in the near future, then a more manageable replacement will be selected for him.

Putin is unpredictable and uncontrollable at all, the rating in the eyes of the EU and the United States is much lower, but popular and dangerous.

[Extraneous]

Putin is quite predictable. That is why it is so popular in the world that it is consistent in its actions and is independent.
Erdogan is addicted, and this is already a big minus in the world ranking.
And, unlike Putin, Erdogan poses a real danger to Europe, which cannot be hidden by any statements from the European media and politicians.
The story of the flow of refugees from Turkey, inspired by Britain and the United States, only confirmed the fears of Europeans.

[tinibar]

Quote: sherman1506

Finches, and we have long been there.

Well, we must somehow correspond to them, keep the brand, or something ... Although Putin raised the bar so high that ...

[arcgrz]

daesh in the ass shish .. explain to me what daesh is? .. letter by letter

[Tatiana_VV]

Usually, in such cases, they hint that someone has been banned from Google. Well, at least she herself once again found and read:
The Arabic analogue of DAISH (Arabic stress on the second syllable), the decoding sounds like "al-Dawlaal-Islamiyaal-Iraqal-Sham", which in Russian means "Islamic State of Iraq and Sham (Levant)".
In a commentary to Komsomolskaya Pravda, Dmitry Kiselev explained why the difference in names is so important.
- DAISH is an abbreviation in Arabic for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. On the one hand, it is an acronym, an abbreviation, but on the other hand, the terrorists themselves do not accept this formulation, they do not call themselves that. Moreover, for this word, the leaders of the barbaric "caliphate" promise to cut off the tongues of everyone who calls them that. Because this contraction sounds derogatory to their ear. They have associations with unpleasant words. Well, for example, in Kurdish, daesh is a donkey. The word itself does not warm their ears. At the same time, for a Russian person, DAISH is not associated with Islam and with some kind of statehood. The deafness towards our own Muslims is becoming persistent. If this is slovenliness, then it does not decorate anyone, - explained Kiselev.

[tatarin_ru]

Quote: arkgrz

daesh in the ass shish .. explain to me what daesh is? .. letter by letter

A defective Arab is an "exceptional" punks. (Daesh)

[mojohed2012]

When the French will choose not an anti-national pro-Shtat plankton (like Hollande), but an ideological and firm president.

[Redfox3k]

Quote: mojohed2012

When the French will choose not an anti-national pro-Shtat plankton (like Hollande), but an ideological and firm president.

NEVER! After Charles de Gaulle, not a single French president who would not look the states in the mouth ... not a single one!

[tatarin_ru]

The French as politicians -
it's like a girl of easy virtue - friendly, pretty and attractive in appearance, you can talk and even spend a pleasant evening in her company ...
BUT the most important thing is not to fall in love and not lose your head, showering with gifts, and certainly not to offer your hand and heart -
will deceive, change, quit, take away half, how to drink to give.

[sounddoc]

Quote: zennon

Quote: Altona

Especially touching are the photographs of the resistance poppies with the Thompson submachine guns.

I like this one more:

Plus .... I will support the theme - French volunteers of the "Legion of French Volunteers against Bolshevism" (LFV) before the train leaves for the USSR at the Parisian Gare de l'Est station .... The inscription "Heil Hitler" is especially touching ...

[DOMINO100]

fuck you ...!

[Extraneous]

And to whom are we so angry? The day is not good?

[DOMINO100]

yes, exactly. bad.

[Kyrgyz]

Quote: DOMINO100

yes, exactly. bad.

Did the fuel trucks burn?

[DOMINO100]

but what do I care about them?

[sharp-lad]

Abaldet what a sovereign France.

[beard64]

...
"France first used cruise missiles against militants in the Middle East"
........................................
- and they ended ...............
/ missiles / ..............

[bannik]

"... a French aircraft carrier hastily ... moved to the Persian Gulf."

"The chief ordered to tear the claws!" (C)

[dchegrinec]

We also decided not to hit our faces in the mud! That's how cool we are.

[Wolka]

the frogs are a member of NATO, therefore this is nothing more than a demonstration of force in response to the actions of the Aerospace Forces and the Russian Navy, well, supposedly for reflection ...

[ReGuLuM]

Well done guardians. But here's more news ...
UN, December 16. / Corr. TASS Oleg Zelenin. Iran violated a UN Security Council resolution by testing a ballistic missile. This was stated on Tuesday by the head of the Security Council Committee on sanctions against the Islamic Republic, Roman Marchesi, presenting the conclusions of the Security Council expert group.
Speaking at a regular meeting of the Council, he said that a group of experts on December 11 had submitted their report on the launch of the Imad (Pillar) ballistic missile on October 10. “The group (of experts) concluded that Iran’s launch of the Imad is in violation of paragraph 9 of Security Council resolution 1929 (2010),” said Marcesi, the Permanent Representative of Spain to the UN.
Resolution 1929 "Decides that Iran will not undertake any activity related to ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons, including ballistic missile launch technology." The document also calls on states to take "all necessary measures to prevent the transfer of technology or the provision of technical assistance to Iran related to such activities."
Speaking at the Security Council meeting, US Permanent Representative Samantha Power drew attention to the fact that on November 21 Tehran, according to Washington, carried out another ballistic missile launch. She stated that the American side intends to "work with members of the Security Council to respond to these violations."
Power also pointed to other violations by the Islamic Republic of the Security Council sanctions regime, to which she included the visit to Moscow of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, included in the "black lists" of the Security Council, in July, according to the American side. “This Council must not allow Iran to feel that it can violate resolutions with impunity,” Power said.

PS The Persians also understood who to be friends with

[Vega]

"Handsome" biting their elbows that participated in the assassination of Gaddafi and the collapse of Libya, are looking for where and how to cling to a new "freebie". Then the participants will say - give money.

[Doomph]

Regarding oil, the "mutual love" of Turkey and Israel: nothing personal, just business. And money, as you know, does not smell.