The new Tu-160 will not have Ukrainian components

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Staritsky Mechanical Plant (part of NPO Rodina) began constructive processing of the steering unit for the Tu-160 aircraft. It is necessary to replace the hydraulic motor of Ukrainian production on the domestic, transfers TASS message of the director of the enterprise Lev Shorin.

The new Tu-160 will not have Ukrainian components


“Now the question is about the resumption of production of the Tu-160“ White Swan ”aircraft, and Ukraine was previously involved in the manufacture of steering units. The hydromotor that joins our units was Ukrainian, ”said the director.

“Now we need our hydraulic motor. And he has a different configuration, a different design. It is necessary to rework constructively the unit to put in our hydraulic motor. This is not an easy task - to conduct the entire test cycle, and this is a long process, but I think we will do it, ”added Shorin.

TASS Help: “Staritsky Mechanical Plant, located in the Tver Region, was established in April 1968 as a production branch of the Rodina Moscow Machine-Building Design Bureau. The plant produces various products for aviation equipment, in particular, hydraulic units for aircraft of various types and modifications (Tu-204, Tu-214, Il-476, Be-200, An-148, Il-96-300 and others). "
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  1. +6
    15 December 2015 17: 31
    God forbid, solve this most important problem and quickly, time does not wait.
    1. +19
      15 December 2015 17: 32
      Well that's just wonderful. The Russian "strategist" (applies not only to aircraft) should consist only of Russian components. Even a schoolchild is obliged to understand this, well, if he is not a victim of the exam (sorry, I could not resist)
      1. +3
        15 December 2015 17: 35
        The new Tu-160 will not have Ukrainian components

        Yes I hope !!! belay
        1. -17
          15 December 2015 18: 01
          now there will be chinese wink
          1. +2
            15 December 2015 20: 01
            Quote: satelit24
            now there will be chinese wink

            do not joke so No.
      2. +2
        15 December 2015 17: 39
        Here live a century, learn a century.
        It’s not an easy task to conduct the entire test cycle, and this is a long process, but I think we will do it, ”Shorin added.
        I thought hydraulics weren’t very difficult to do. Now I will know that according to the old patterns it is difficult. Without sarcasm.
        1. cap
          +1
          15 December 2015 19: 14
          I thought hydraulics weren’t very difficult to do. Now I will know that according to the old patterns it is difficult. Without sarcasm.
          To the new owners, the noodles on their ears before the New Year are very similar.
          Progression bonuses, for YESH students, and so it will do. It’s sad, however, to read this:“Now we need our hydraulic motor. And he is already in a different configuration, in a different design. Need to recycle structurally unitto put in our hydraulic motor. It is not an easy task to conduct the entire test cycle, and this is a long process, but I think we will do it, ”Shorin added.
          You would think that they were going to change the design, God forbid! hi
          1. +1
            15 December 2015 20: 04
            Quote: cap
            I thought hydraulics weren’t very difficult to do. Now I will know that according to the old patterns it is difficult. Without sarcasm.
            To the new owners, the noodles on their ears before the New Year are very similar.
            Progression bonuses, for YESH students, and so it will do. It’s sad, however, to read this:“Now we need our hydraulic motor. And he is already in a different configuration, in a different design. Need to recycle structurally unitto put in our hydraulic motor. It is not an easy task to conduct the entire test cycle, and this is a long process, but I think we will do it, ”Shorin added.
            You would think that they were going to change the design, God forbid! hi

            apparently you can’t imagine what it is to replace one unit with another it is really very difficult especially on the steering it is AVIATION and not a ground truck
    2. +8
      15 December 2015 17: 35
      There are only 16 of these aircraft, plus 2 more will be built, as it will be seen further. That we all the country will not pull a hydraulic booster? There are so many of them in general can be made by hand and piece. And the fact that it is necessary to get rid of Ukrainian components has long been necessary to do. The defense is an "intimate" thing laughing
      1. +1
        15 December 2015 20: 05
        Quote: marlin1203
        There are only 16 of these aircraft, plus 2 more will be built, as it will be seen further. That we all the country will not pull a hydraulic booster? There are so many of them in general can be made by hand and piece. And the fact that it is necessary to get rid of Ukrainian components has long been necessary to do. The defense is an "intimate" thing laughing

        such hydraulic motors are not only on the Tu-160
    3. +10
      15 December 2015 17: 37
      Quote: venaya
      God forbid, solve this most important problem and quickly, time does not wait.

      Time does not wait, that's for sure, but before that they thought that dill would stop jumping? Or would the sanctions be lifted and everything would go along the knurled track? As usual, we lose time which may not be enough at the right time.
      1. +8
        15 December 2015 17: 45
        Ukrainian will soon be nothing .... Even sweets! Oh Ukraine! They deceived you specifically, soon all sorts of parashenko and egg-laying with a teddy bear will run and what will remain?
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        2. +2
          15 December 2015 18: 43
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          Ukrainian will soon be nothing .... Even sweets! Oh Ukraine! They deceived you specifically, soon all sorts of parashenko and egg-laying with a teddy bear will run and what will remain?

          Other pigs, rabbits, and gastro-eaters will come. In dill there is still something to steal.
          1. +2
            15 December 2015 19: 02
            That's right. They no longer need industrial production. There is something else to steal. But their main wealth is land, black soil. Ukraine is not threatened with famine. And Euro partners will force the land to be sown with rapeseed and other crops for biofuel production. This is a variant of Kampuchea of ​​the 21st century. the military will be stationed near our borders. Here is their future. We have such "friends" at the side - the dream of our "partners".
    4. +2
      15 December 2015 17: 42
      Quote: venaya
      God forbid, solve this most important problem and quickly, time does not wait.

      everything must be able to be done in the country, relaxation privatization, commerce should not affect the reduction of the possibility of domestic production of defense products
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    6. -3
      15 December 2015 18: 11
      It is necessary to pray, prayer is safer than a wish ... You might think that someone doubts that "the most important task", it is necessary "quickly" and "time does not wait". Or are you writing to check in?
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        1. +1
          15 December 2015 18: 31
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          - I sincerely doubt that the TU-160 is what is "most important" and what needs to be built "quickly". We already have a couple of such "toys" in our arsenal. Why do we need more, especially now, when there is no money for anything other than salaries of government officials?

          Production will be to replace obsolete machines.
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        2. +1
          15 December 2015 23: 23
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          Why do we need more, especially now, when there is no money for anything other than salaries to government officials?

          You are using outdated manuals. Have you not sent new ones? I must say - there is no money for other weapons systems - more important! Then maybe no one will pay attention to the darling of a rainy ehomats wink
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    7. 0
      15 December 2015 18: 32
      Yes, they have no choice .... if something is going to be knocked out .... how it is heated ... and still good luck to the peasants and patience ....
    8. 0
      15 December 2015 22: 45
      why a hydraulic motor, not an electric drive? After all, it seems that our developers have recently patented an electric drive, it is more economical and smaller in size with the same reliability.
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  2. +6
    15 December 2015 17: 33
    In Ufa: UMPO, "Hydraulics", UPPO, UAPO. Well, why're coming out partners?
    1. +1
      15 December 2015 17: 51
      I agree. Kazan is much closer to Ufa and it is necessary to produce components closer to production, bypassing abroad.
  3. +7
    15 December 2015 17: 33
    The hydraulic motor that joins our units was Ukrainian

    In Ukraine, they themselves are unlikely to do it themselves.
    1. +3
      15 December 2015 18: 46
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The hydraulic motor that joins our units was Ukrainian

      In Ukraine, they themselves are unlikely to do it themselves.

      Well yes. In addition to maidan dill is unlikely that they can do it sooner, all the more reliable
  4. +5
    15 December 2015 17: 35
    The new Tu-160 will not have Ukrainian components

    They should not be there for a long time! Let's hope that even after normalizing relations with Ukraine (and I really want to believe in it), the process of switching to domestic components is not slowed down!
    1. +1
      15 December 2015 19: 14
      Quote: Rokossovsky
      even after normalizing relations with Ukraine



      Hmm ... Optimist you, however ...
  5. +3
    15 December 2015 17: 35
    And for this we needed only for the soldered president of Ukraine to call Russia the enemy for the hundredth time and ours, it finally dawned that it was more necessary to buy piles of plants than abroad, just like Russian Railways did almost all the orders in the outskirts.
  6. 0
    15 December 2015 17: 36
    Something like that is not enough information.
  7. +5
    15 December 2015 17: 37
    The steering unit is not like the most difficult element of such a complex aircraft! Probably you can not find a solution for it for a very long time. And the production of these aircraft is a wonderful solution. You can’t just lose such a masterpiece without finding a worthy replacement.
  8. +5
    15 December 2015 17: 38
    As previously mentioned, if a new TU-160M2 is assembled, it will not be a modernization of Cygnus, even a deep one, but a completely different NEW bomber.
    1. +1
      15 December 2015 18: 03
      ... another, NEW bomber - I think it will be something like a mixture of "Buran" and "Swan", incorporating all the best from its predecessors, as well as the TU-160 glider with a purely Russian filling of modern developments and materials, but for any strategists are a Big Plus ..!
      1. +1
        15 December 2015 19: 40
        Quote: uge.garik
        ... another, NEW bomber - I think it will be something like a mixture of "Buran" and "Swan", incorporating all the best from its predecessors, as well as the TU-160 glider with a purely Russian filling of modern developments and materials, but for any strategists are a Big Plus ..!

        I say again, more than once, the new TU-160 in the form as we know it is unlikely to be ... most likely there will be something similar to the T-54C with T-4C elements ...
  9. +4
    15 December 2015 17: 39
    The military-industrial complex, in principle, should not depend on other states, even on friendly and fraternal ones ... There may be joint projects and developments, but we must be able to produce all the necessary range of weapons from our components and on our territory.
  10. +1
    15 December 2015 17: 40
    Here it is a purely Russian white swan!
    1. +2
      15 December 2015 17: 58
      I completely agree with you. And for the Russian "White Swan" it is inconvenient to use
      "hydraulic motor" ...
  11. 0
    15 December 2015 17: 41
    This is not an easy task - to conduct the entire test cycle, and this is a lengthy process, but I think we will do it
    Given the current speed of work, as well as the progress of the processes on Urkain, it is possible that by the time the unit is brought to mind, Ukraine, well, or the part that produced the motor (I’m willing to argue that it’s not Galichina) will be part of the Russian Federation.
    1. FID
      +10
      15 December 2015 17: 52
      Quote: Nagan
      (ready to argue that it is not Galicia)

      Now, the Tu-22M3 (one regiment) is armed with an X-15 missile ... The computer for the autopilot of this missile was produced in Lviv and nowhere else ... And there is NOTHING to replace it. And you say swimming ...
  12. +3
    15 December 2015 17: 46
    So that's why Yatsenyuk built a wall with a moat:
    - So that the technology of components does not flow to Russia.
    With proper organization of work during the Second World War, entire plants were transferred to the bare steppe and, according to the schedule of the commander in chief, were put into production.
    Youth, take an example from grandfathers!
    1. +11
      15 December 2015 18: 15
      Quote: individ
      So that's why Yatsenyuk built a wall with a moat:
      - So that the technology of components does not flow to Russia.
      With proper organization of work during the Second World War, entire plants were transferred to the bare steppe and, according to the schedule of the commander in chief, were put into production.
      Youth, take an example from grandfathers!

      So then they asked not for children, but now they will wash the floor for two days and go out according to parole.
  13. +3
    15 December 2015 17: 47
    Yes, as in the joke: "so we will soon reach the mice .. we will." The news, simply, of paramount importance, the whole hydraulic motor was assembled all over the country!
    "It is not an easy task - to carry out the entire test cycle, and this is a long process, but I think we will do it," Shorin added. Just a pearl! But they will do it !!!! Hooray!!!!
    If there’s nothing to write about, then don’t write anything than any nonsense! In addition, the grandmother said in two, there will be a release of the new 160s, if so, when, and then damn it, the whole cycle. tests, to test. They have left Ukraine!
    Not VO became, but a branch of the Censor. request
    1. +2
      15 December 2015 17: 56
      Quote: mitrich
      The news, simply archival, the whole hydromotor gathered to assemble the whole country!

      Well why bother ... It’s clear that it’s not a simple matter, but it’s necessary to do it! If our grandfathers and great-grandfathers in the 41st moved entire military factories to the Urals and Siberia and practically produced weapons for the front under open sky (and not bad) And now what can not we? hi
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      2. +1
        15 December 2015 18: 14
        And what else remains ?! Here, el. the cable was launched to the Crimea, the Union successfully flew to the ISS, this is news!
        And just going-planning-thinking-suggest -.... replacing the part on the product that they plan to release in a new way and where there are hundreds of them, what is this about? request
  14. +2
    15 December 2015 17: 49
    when there was the last MAKS, the pilots said that out of 17 in service there were only four .. two are constantly patrolling and two are in reserve .. the rest are waiting in line for engine repairs which takes about a year .. new carcasses are simply needed now .. they would like to su 24 start doing .. these machines are ahead of their time .. they have a large margin for modernization ...
  15. +5
    15 December 2015 17: 49
    now we would also like to remove imported parts from the Sukhoi Superjet. This is an achievement. There people fly ..
    1. +2
      15 December 2015 19: 07
      Quote: shultc
      now we would also like to remove imported parts from the Sukhoi Superjet. This is an achievement. There people fly ..


      The plane will have to be forgotten ...
      there is more import than ours.
  16. +8
    15 December 2015 17: 54
    The whole TASS message .... Guys, what are you? Work moment. Yes, a hydraulic actuator, a hydraulic motor .. So create and test, and not make official statements! Nonsense. There is no mustachioed on you ...
  17. +3
    15 December 2015 17: 54
    On the one hand, it’s good, since the responsible components and assemblies should be their own.
    On the other hand, it’s a pity that the USSR was destroyed, where its own were Ukrainian, Belarusian, Lithuanian, Latvian, etc. parts of military equipment ...
  18. +2
    15 December 2015 18: 00
    Quote: mitrich
    Yes, as in the joke: "so we will soon reach the mice .. we will." The news, simply, of paramount importance, the whole hydraulic motor was assembled all over the country!

    Before writing, you need to think a little. All parts, assemblies and components of aviation equipment are subject to certification and must comply with design documentation.
    This hydraulic motor is not enough to create, it must be tested, the warranty resource of work must be determined, amendments to the design documentation, production documentation, technology, etc.
    Therefore, if you want to pass for clever, better keep silent.
  19. +1
    15 December 2015 18: 01
    Quote: Lesovik
    The military-industrial complex, in principle, should not depend on other states, even on friendly and fraternal ones ... There may be joint projects and developments, but we must be able to produce all the necessary range of weapons from our components and on our territory.

    Our defense industry plants are in obscure hands, it is unclear who owns them, but the level of management is visible.
    I can’t pass by. What equipment can be produced when such conditions are created, premiere presidents, ministers come, they show beautiful pictures to them, specially prepared people to keep silent. And then they do not pay ZP, turn off the heat. Is it at this pace that we are preparing for possible future conflicts?

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  20. 0
    15 December 2015 18: 01
    Ukraine is fenced off by ditches and fences, and we are import substituting their goods and products from them. Let's see who takes it.
  21. +1
    15 December 2015 18: 02
    It’s a pity that we hadn’t thought of it before. To Ukraine, periodic outbreaks of Russophobia. This is not the first.
    1. +1
      15 December 2015 18: 17
      Quote: Gormengast
      It’s a pity that we hadn’t thought of it before. To Ukraine, periodic outbreaks of Russophobia. This is not the first.

      And not the last ... Lesson to us is a good next in history!
  22. +2
    15 December 2015 19: 04
    "It is not an easy task to carry out the entire test cycle, and it is a long process, but I think we will do it" ...

    "The road will be mastered by the walker" ...
    "A rolling stone gathers no moss"...
    "Better late than never"...

    The Russian language is rich and powerful ... And proverbs with sayings that have come from ancient centuries have not lost their relevance ...

    It remains only to wish: "God help!" ...
  23. +2
    15 December 2015 21: 40
    It is necessary from Ukraine to completely methodically and purposefully take out the engineering and technical staff working in the military-industrial complex, give them an industrial / base, integrate into our design bureaus, help with housing - and forward, meet the dawn! This is not as difficult to do as it seems ... As the IVS said: "" cadres decide everything! "
    1. +2
      15 December 2015 21: 46
      Quote: doework
      It is necessary from Ukraine to completely methodically and purposefully take out the engineering and technical staff working in the military-industrial complex, give them an industrial / base, integrate into our design bureaus, help with housing - and forward, meet the dawn! This is not as difficult to do as it seems ... As the IVS said: "" cadres decide everything! "

      Do you think that this is not being done? Believe me, the Ukrainian specialists who work at Yuzhmash, Antonov Design Bureau and so on, are pulling us, since we really need such shots.
  24. +2
    16 December 2015 03: 22
    On the one hand ... difficulties arose, if you look at the other ... in a timely manner, they removed the weak link that could be filthy at any moment.