The Silence of Baghdad

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The goal of NATO is not terrorists, but the preservation of influence

To escape the blows of the Russian Aerospace Forces, the bandits flee from Syria to Iraq, hastily equip new positions near the city of Mosul. However, official Baghdad is trying to destroy the terrorists on its own, the Iraqi army continues to suffer significant losses. Why has the country's leadership still not asked for help from Moscow?

It must be admitted that the fight against the “Islamic State” banned in Russia in the Iraqi direction should be intensified.

Even before the start of the air antiterrorist operation, the press center of the Iraqi army Media War Cell (MWC) reported that Russia had sold a lot of Su-30МК multi-purpose heavy fighter jets to Iraq, and Mi-35M and Mi-28НE night-time helicopters were also delivered. Currently, these combat vehicles are already striking the positions of the "Islamic State", but the successes of the Iraqi pilots look more than modest.

Although the difficult situation in the country forced Iraqi Prime Minister Khaled al-Abadi to speak about the need for Russian military assistance in early October, the question hung in the air. In turn, our country did not give a definite answer, hinting that it is ready to accept such requests only in its official form.

In this difficult situation, Russia needs to increase its military presence in the Middle East. Thus, the Russian VKS group in Syria will become an even more significant counterweight to not only terrorist groups, but also to American air bases that appeared in the region at the beginning of the 90's and were strengthened in the 2000's.

Iraqi Air Force: Brief Overview


After the occupation of the country by the troops of the Western coalition, the Iraqi Air Force virtually ceased to exist. Only in 2004, the US began negotiations with the puppet authorities to create new national air connections, while the American side in every way delayed (and it still does) large-scale deliveries of even used aircraft.

The Iraqi Air Force, according to November 2015, has 10 multi-role fighters Su-30МК, supplied from Russia and India, four F-16С, two Czech-made combat training aircraft, 159 attack aircraft Su-12КМ / Su -25UBKM, nine transport workers С-25Н "Hercules", six An-130Б, delivered from Ukraine. The helicopter fleet consists of 32 drum machines (ten Mi-15M and five Mi-35NE), 28 multipurpose Mi-40 / Mi-17, 171 UH-16 «Mohawk», 1 lung intelligence Bell 10, nine light multipurpose OH-206 Kiowa.

The Silence of BaghdadIn addition, a contract was signed with South Korea for the supply of the Golden Eagle FA-50 (T-50IQ) to Iraq, which should be put into service soon. In addition to being used as light attack aircraft, the FA-50 and L-159 will be used to train pilots.

At first glance, all this looks impressive to a war-torn Iraq. However, despite the presence of relatively new aircraft, the pilots have a low level of training, which effectively reduces to zero the effectiveness of combat missions.

In addition, it cannot be ruled out that at the most unexpected moment, terrorists can either destroy Iraq Aviation on the ground (bribing guards is not a problem), or capture combat-ready vehicles, thereby significantly enhancing their potential.

Aviation and the situation: the West is nervous


It is obvious that the successes of Russian aviation, the increasing influence of the Russian Federation cause at least irritation in the West. Despite the terrorist threat, Washington and Brussels continue to pursue a policy of double standards.

So why does the West want to keep Iraq under its domination by all means? What motivates the North Atlantic Alliance to make covert political moves against Baghdad?

The first. Iraq has a favorable geographical position in the Middle East, that is, it controls not only the airspace in the very center of the region, but also access to the Persian Gulf near neighboring Kuwait.

The second. Rich oil fields make Iraq an important energy player. According to official Baghdad, the country's “black gold” reserves exceed 143 billion barrels. It is clear that the West does not want to give up such a profitable “piece” into the wrong hands.

Third. Recently, contacts between Russia and Iraq have become more frequent, all this raises the fear of the NATO command to lose influence in the Middle East.

In addition, the territory of Iraq is a kind of reserve base for replenishing the battered terrorist formations, there are many underground tunnels and bunkers in the country that only our aircraft can destroy. It is clear that the delay in asking for military assistance will result in sad consequences not only for Iraq itself, but also for the entire world community. "Unruly forest grows." Of course, for our country, the Iraqi operation will become more costly than the Syrian one, but there seems to be no other way out.

Another significant point: after the Paris attacks, the West began a real fight against the militants (the air forces of Great Britain and France attack terrorists not only in northern Iraq, but also in the Syrian city of Rakka, the unofficial capital of ISIL). In doing so, NATO countries are seeking to challenge Russia with the fruits of its future victory.

The Iraqi leadership needs to make the only right decision - to turn to Russia as soon as possible for help. Our aviation is ready to act in the Iraqi direction, especially since the pilots have already gained solid combat experience.
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  1. +25
    9 December 2015 14: 48
    Quote from the article:
    "The Iraqi leadership needs to make the only right decision - to turn to Russia for help as soon as possible."
    Well done author. I decided for everyone.
    1. +7
      9 December 2015 14: 52
      Quote: corn
      Well done author. I decided for everyone.

      With Syria, do not understand how much else we are transporting, so let's also climb into Iraq. All combat aircraft to the Middle East?
      1. +4
        9 December 2015 15: 11
        Quote: Penetrator
        With Syria, do not understand how much else we are transporting, so let's also climb into Iraq. All combat aircraft to the Middle East?

        And by the way, if you succumb to paranoid syndrome - it’s not a bad deal - to pull parts of the aviation and navy away from us, to leave them less protected.
        Although as for me - so it is necessary to fully use the experience of the "Condor" in the Spanish War, where the pilots were constantly changing and receiving combat training, or rather invaluable combat experience.
        1. +5
          9 December 2015 15: 59
          It is necessary to help Iraq financially, giving back the military equipment stored for conservation and storage. We have these BMP1, BMP2, T55, T64, the artillery systems of the city, which are written off by the D-30 shaft by thousands, I’m sure. You can transfer planes easier - at least for rent, machine guns, ammunition, RPGs. In the meantime, we won’t figure it out in Syria ourselves, it’s not worth expanding, we can’t pull it. Even if we put an end to terrorism in Syria, the conquered territories will still have to be held and defended for a long time, until the Syrian regime is strong enough to stand up for itself.
          1. 0
            9 December 2015 16: 23
            Quote: aktanir
            It is necessary to help Iraq financially

            And maybe enough to feed foreign countries at the expense of their citizens? What kind of stupid slogans, let’s help financially, Russia that suddenly became the first world economy or the budget is already surplus and there is no place to make money?
            1. 0
              10 December 2015 08: 17
              That's right, that's why I propose to transfer the old but combat-ready equipment, which is idle in our storage depots. No one talks about money.
          2. +4
            9 December 2015 16: 28
            Quote: aktanir
            It is necessary to help Iraq financially, giving back the military equipment stored for conservation and storage. We have these BMP1, BMP2, T55, T64, the artillery systems of the city, which are written off by the D-30 shaft by thousands, I’m sure. You can transfer planes easier - at least for rent, machine guns, ammunition, RPGs. In the meantime, we won’t figure it out in Syria ourselves, it’s not worth expanding, we can’t pull it. Even if we put an end to terrorism in Syria, the conquered territories will still have to be held and defended for a long time, until the Syrian regime is strong enough to stand up for itself.


            This is a thought in the right direction, but not for free; there are different options for receiving rewards.
          3. +1
            9 December 2015 16: 43
            Quote: aktanir
            We have these BMP1, BMP2, T55, T64, the artillery systems of the city, which are written off by the D-30 shaft by thousands, I’m sure.

            Do not simplify.
            Military equipment has value, unlike other things, not when it is standing, but when it is fully operational and ready for combat use. About order on BHVT, especially in the 90s, it is better not to talk.
            So everything must be brought into proper form. If for Iraqi finance, please, please.
            Also, air strikes should be co-financed, because there is money in Iraq, unlike Syria.
      2. 0
        9 December 2015 17: 06
        Our aviation is ready to act in Iraq

        Chasing two hares ....
    2. +1
      9 December 2015 14: 52
      First, you need to "bring to mind" Syria, and then you can do the rest.
      1. +5
        9 December 2015 15: 07
        The author is right - if Baghdad formally seeks help from Russia, it will be a major blow to NATO. The alliance’s coalition will lose influence in Iraq, enter Afghanistan, stop attacking Assad’s army, Iraq will return the northern lands. Baghdad, by the way, has only one single right move.
        1. +9
          9 December 2015 15: 15
          Quote: slaw14
          The author is right - if Baghdad formally seeks help from Russia, it will be a major blow to NATO.

          And the navel of our state will not be untied from such latitude of the soul? To bomb terrorists in two countries - how much is one flight of the old Dryer, and how much is the new one? It is necessary to bomb - it is clear without words, the influence is also good, but it seems to me - we need to work closely with the population and politicians in the region. The United States loves to carry chestnuts with someone else's hands, invest in Kurds and other Bedouins and Halloween is a new country, and "all debts and aid" will be forgiven us.
          1. 0
            9 December 2015 18: 13
            Quote: Corsair
            And the navel of our state will not be untied from such a breadth of soul? To bomb terrorists in two countries - how much does one sortie of the old Sushka cost, but how much is new?

            And let them hire our pilots along with equipment. Set a fee for each flight. Money for a barrel - then you can bomb.
    3. +3
      9 December 2015 14: 53
      Quote: corn
      "The Iraqi leadership needs to make the only right decision - to turn to Russia for help as soon as possible."

      Well, of course, now we only lacked Iraq; in Syria, they defeated everyone. smile
    4. +1
      9 December 2015 14: 59
      Quote: corn
      Well done author. I decided for everyone.

      +))) in general, this article was still online on November 23rd))
      and the people .. tell me please .. when did you manage?
      sold a batch of multi-purpose heavy fighters to Iraq Su-30MK
    5. SVD
      +1
      9 December 2015 15: 06
      Let the author sell the house and property, buy the ammunition and go ahead to fight Daesh in Iraq, and then broadcast from there.
  2. 0
    9 December 2015 14: 51
    The lack of competent pilots, support specialists, a fleet of fleets and poor protection. Naturally, help is needed the quicker the better it all depends on them.
  3. +4
    9 December 2015 14: 52
    It is necessary, as soon as possible, to unite into one friendly "alliance" - Russia, Syria, Iran and Iraq. And it will be a strong move.
    1. +2
      9 December 2015 15: 14
      Quote: Eulogius
      unite into one friendly "union" - Russia, Syria, Iran and Iraq. And it will be a strong move.

      I do not think that a strong move is to unite with the Arabs. They are still warriors .. Remember, for example, the Six Day War of 1967 or the Doomsday War of 1973. And the Persians cannot boast of special military successes. Just in the current situation, you will be glad to any ally. Not to fat, so to speak ... sad
      1. 0
        9 December 2015 15: 36
        In vain you are so, the common ground can be not only military, but here we must work for the future.
      2. +1
        9 December 2015 16: 04
        Quote: Eulogius
        It is necessary, as soon as possible, to unite into one friendly "alliance" - Russia, Syria, Iran and Iraq. And it will be a strong move.

        I repeat the hackneyed phrase about the number of allies in Russia, there are only two of them. The rest are only temporary companions who will be friends with us for the time being, an example of this is the countries of the Warsaw Pact, which they ate from their hands and who want to put a knife under their ribs. When the time comes and Syria will also go its own way ... Everyone in this tangle has its own goal. And this is normal, therefore, you shouldn’t shy away strongly in the gums, IMHO of course ...
        1. 0
          9 December 2015 18: 35
          On the whole, you are right, but, following your words, in this case we will generally be left alone: ​​there is no CSTO, no SCO, no "fellow travelers", etc. Does Russia need this? It seems to me not. Better a bad friend than a good enemy or an indifferent neighbor.
        2. 0
          10 December 2015 00: 33
          Quote: severniy
          the number of allies in Russia, there are only two.


          There were two. Now three! 3rd and most important - VKS laughing
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  4. 0
    9 December 2015 14: 53
    Why is China slowing down. Does it not need the east? and in vain. And they could go in seriously and for a long time. They would equip a base in Iraq and hammer it together. We in Syria, they with Iran would have caught in Iraq ..
    1. +1
      9 December 2015 14: 58
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      Why China is slowing down.

      "If you sit for a long time on the bank of the river, you can see how the corpse of your enemy floats along it." Sun Tzu. wink
      1. +3
        9 December 2015 15: 25
        and then see how behind you while you sat and looked for a long time, the west is already planting you on the floor bumps
        1. +3
          9 December 2015 16: 07
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: AdekvatNICK
          Why China is slowing down.

          "If you sit for a long time on the bank of the river, you can see how the corpse of your enemy floats along it." Sun Tzu. wink

          Quote: AdekvatNICK
          and then see how behind you while you sat and looked for a long time, the west is already planting you on the floor bumps

          ATP of the Lord hi smiled ... laughing laughing laughing
    2. +1
      9 December 2015 15: 37
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      What is China slowing down

      China holds about $ 1 trillion in American money (debt papers and other waste paper) - plus the Chinese army is not so strong and powerful despite all their economic successes.
      They drop the authority of the United States, and then the dollar is now extremely unprofitable. And if something happens, they can be easily blocked from the sea, and overland to Iraq you need to move through 3-4 countries - who will let the Army through the country? There is aviation - but for a full-fledged contingent, you need a lot of flights / traffic - again, through countries that China will not like
  5. +2
    9 December 2015 14: 54
    and the author apparently does not realize that Russia will not have enough for everyone, some of Syria and Hohland are enough for the most do not indulge, and the Yankees are doing it to make Russia even more bogged down in this "swamp" of the fight against international terrorism, i.e. as much as possible and over a wide area ...
    1. 0
      9 December 2015 18: 44
      I agree. ISIS is the brainchild of the United States. And to promote ISIS further they will probably be in Iraq and Afghanistan. And not in vain, probably, the leader of ISIS al-Baghdidi appeared in Libya. I guess that during the first half of 2016, he is likely to celebrate his presence in Africa at Boko Haram.
  6. 0
    9 December 2015 14: 56
    Good and informative information on the composition of the Iraqi Air Force. Everything else in the article gives away some superficiality and obvious hatred. Somehow such an opinion has developed, colleagues. hi
  7. +1
    9 December 2015 15: 00
    First, we need to gain a foothold in Syria, I am afraid that we have enough forces for Iraq only to bombardment and then to the detriment of the operation in Syria. And to get Iraq out of Western influence and get the buns that the author speaks of, it will have to contain military contingent. That is, in my opinion, it’s necessary to spray our already not too large forces in the Middle East between Syria and Iraq ... I think this is premature. Now, when Assad will squeeze out most of the militants from his territory and we will have a more reliable rear, then perhaps we should closely tackle Iraq, but for now it’s too early, I think ... Although, perhaps, the potential benefits will be so great that ours really decide to provide serious support to Iraq if Baghdad seek help ..
  8. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 02
    Do not forget that this government in Iraq is working with the "blessing" of the Americans, so the question is: what exactly (apart from money) do the Iraqi authorities want?
  9. oof
    +1
    9 December 2015 15: 03
    The author apparently thinks that ammunition and everything else falls from the sky to us.
  10. +1
    9 December 2015 15: 05
    The Iraqi leadership needs to make the only right decision - to turn to Russia as soon as possible for help. Our aviation is ready to act in the Iraqi direction, especially since the pilots have already gained solid combat experience.

    Has the author already been called from the Kremlin? Gave the go-ahead? Well, Baghdad will give an official request. And Moscow will answer that it is necessary to prepare. The author knows exactly the range of aviation. Are there prepared bases in Iraq? Or should we use NATO-skim? So they are not there either. Iraqi? So the author himself wrote that there is zero security on them.

    How easy and pleasant it is to draw arrows on maps ... Immediately you feel like Hannibal. Or there Alexander the Great. The supply of Russian bases in Syria goes by sea. What sea will be supplied to Russian bases in Iraq? Now another base is being built in the center of Syria. How long does it take to bring it to mind?

    Well, the author does not want to pay attention to any questions of MTS.
  11. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 09
    We still didn’t have enough Iraq. We will help with weapons and humanitarian aid. Get the rest yourself
  12. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 10
    Do we need this Iraq after the mattresses kicked out our oil companies from there?
  13. +4
    9 December 2015 15: 11
    It seems to me that Everything will not be as the author of the article writes !!!
    Of the prophecies of Cosmas, which should come true in the future - the defeat of the Turks, the liberation of Constantinople (Tsargrad in Russian). The former capital of the Orthodox Byzantine Empire. In 1453, the invaders renamed it Istanbul. Made the capital of the Ottoman Empire.
    “The Turks will reach the six-mile zone,” Cosma said. “Of these, one third will die, one third will believe in Christ, and one third will go to Kokkini Milla (a legendary place somewhere in Messopotamia)”
    Paisius Svyatorets continued the prophetic tradition of St. Cosmas. He declared that the City (Constantinople) would be given to the Greeks as a result of the war between Russia and Turkey. Turks, Paisius repeatedly said, will be destroyed and erased from the map forever. Because it is a country that does not have God's blessing. It will be divided into three to four parts.
    Here is what the old man said when one day he was hotly asked about the events in the former Yugoslavia: “Today, for the sake of the Turks, Europeans are creating independent states with a Muslim population (Bosnia, Herzegovina). However, I see that in the future they will delicately divide Turkey itself: Kurds and Armenians will rise, and Europeans will demand recognition of the independence and the right of these peoples to self-determination. They will then tell Turkey: “We once did you a favor, now in a similar way should the independence of the Kurds and the Armenians.”
    He also deciphered the mysterious “six-mile” of Cosmas. “Once, writes the spiritual child Paisius, I met him somewhat embarrassed and upset. He treated me and began a conversation himself:
    - Some came here and started telling me that the war will begin, the Turks will enter Greece and drive us six miles to Corinth (in this way they interpreted the prophecy of Cosmas of Aetolia with their spoiled thoughts) ... Although I don’t like talking about the prophecies, they forced me to explain to them the meaning of the six-mile that St. Cosmas speaks of, and this is nothing but the six miles of the sea shelf. This is the topic because of which we have been biting with Turkey in recent years and because of which, in the end, we’ll “clutch”. However, they will not enter Hellas: they will advance only these six miles, and then they will find great disaster from the north, as the scriptures say, and all their plans will collapse. ”
    - From the north - from Russia?
    - Yes. The elder believed in our country: “Today the Russians are going through hard times ... But you see, they will cope with difficulties and will again create a strong state.” (M. Rakovalis
  14. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 12
    It is necessary to fight Daesh, but Moscow should not be torn to the whole Middle East. In addition, the mattress covers will stir up somewhere else, but will Russia clean the dirt behind them? It’s cheaper and better to put the dirt-bearer in place. am
  15. +1
    9 December 2015 15: 13
    what are you ?! everything is calm in Baghdad !!!!
  16. +3
    9 December 2015 15: 13
    Iraq must turn to Iran for help. But then such a tangle will ensue that mom does not grieve. Shiite squad of the IRGC will go to destroy the Sunnis-Kurds and Sunnis-Turks. And the Iranian forces will bomb the coalition planes. There have already been such facts. Turkey will again scream about the fifth point.

    And in Iraq itself, this will lead to opposition from the Sunnis in the government. Under no circumstances would the Saudis want Iraq to become completely Shiite.

    I am 100% sure that without a half liter there is no way to figure it out. And since Muslims do not drink, then no one will figure it out. So climbing into this mess is fraught with sideways.

    You may have to intervene. But only possible.
    1. +1
      9 December 2015 15: 24
      "Iraq must turn to Iran for help" ////

      They have been cooperating for a long time. The Iraqi authorities today are Shiites.
      IRGC trains Iraqi army, and Iraqis give Hezbollah a bunch
      military equipment officially obtained from the Americans (including
      tanks Abrams).
      Here one half liter can not do! fellow
      1. 0
        9 December 2015 15: 34
        About the technology transferred to Hezbollah has already been written. According to some, these are not Hezbollah units. But everything is very complicated there. But everyone knows that the IRGC units have long been in Iraq. And several Iranian senior officers have already died. But it’s also true that coalition planes flatly refuse to cooperate with Iran. The command of the Coalition forces has repeatedly stated that there will be no interaction with the Shiites under any circumstances.

        Like an appendage. Iran has tested some kind of rocket there and now the States are considering the cancellation of agreements with Iran. Apparently, the sanctions will remain.

        But I won’t drink so much.
  17. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 21
    normal move - just don't help by airplanes - send them flocks of "birds"
    let the rocketers gain experience
  18. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 24
    Hurry hare has a whole ass in manure! Rather, there is no concept in such matters! It will never be too late, but it will be costly to fight in Iraq in at least a year. As long as trench bearded rats settle there, it will take a lot of time. Iraq itself will see when the time comes for iron.
  19. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 25
    ... And since Muslims do not drink ...
    They don’t drink ?!) I have a Muslim at work, he walks almost in green socks, he doesn’t eat pork and he drinks vodka and any other kind of drink even as he drinks!
    1. 0
      9 December 2015 15: 35
      Muslims do not drink. That's for sure. And those who drink are not Muslim. I can wear green socks and let go of my beard. But I will not become a Muslim. :-)
      1. 0
        10 December 2015 13: 41
        Muslims do not drink.
        -----------------------
        Are we human?
        Al we did not wear the cross !? : =)
  20. +1
    9 December 2015 15: 26
    Too non-autonomous government in Iraq; Americans have long been operating in the Iraqi protectorate. So, there will be no conversion - unless something absolutely transcendental happens - such as a Wahhabi chemical or radiological weapon.
  21. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 28
    The Iraqi leadership needs to make the only right decision - to turn to Russia for help as quickly as possible.

    This will not be solved yet in Syria. And there it is not so simple ... Perdogan is furious!
  22. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 32
    costly fight in Iraq

    Avaricious pays twice! Moreover, in cases of success in Syria. Such a coalition in Iraq will simply crush this Islamic under-state!
  23. +1
    9 December 2015 15: 33
    It is tense in a country with "military might." But the author is right that without starting to help Iraq in the fight against ISIS, we give them a chance to turn around in a slightly different field. We must beat them (radical Islamists) on all fronts, efforts must be made by all interested countries, they are ALL countries without exception. Russia cannot yet lead in the field of counterterrorism due to active opposition from political opponents - NATO countries and the liberal regimes that have joined. I think over time in Iraq our villains will be bombed.
  24. +1
    9 December 2015 15: 38
    I am interested in one question: why does Iraq want (Wishlist did not grow) to go for help namely to Russia and not to Iran? Everyone knows and understands that Iraq is completely controlled by the United States, the Iraqi "government" will not take a step without approval from Washington.
    But even if you fantasize and imagine that the Iraqi government is independent, then what about the fact that Iraq is in a very difficult situation in terms of confrontation between Shiites and Sunnis. Yes, and there is no combat-ready army and will not appear soon. So what the authorities of Baghdad say (namely as I call the Iraqi authorities) this is an empty phrase.
    The author herself expresses her opinion, but if we start from the article, it turns out that the whole world mess should be tackled by Russia? Horseradish with oil, that is, without oil. Russia that should spray its forces around the world and then it will be torn from all sides and who wants ???? No, the days of Yeltsin's drunk have passed and Russia is not the same as before.
    But Iraq would like to wish to find one such as GDP, and then it will have a chance to call it a country with civil society.
    1. 0
      9 December 2015 15: 59
      Iran will help Iraq, as well as Syria if the coalition troops leave Baghdad. The first were not always friends and "chemical Ali" and many remember the war.
  25. 0
    9 December 2015 15: 42
    Quote: Corsair
    The USA loves carrying chestnuts with strangers, investing in Kurds and other Bedouins and Halloween is a new country,

    Chestnuts are well said, but these "Bedouins" of Iraq have always been
    on our side, only we ourselves turned away from them in the 90s. As for Iraq, it really has only one way out, otherwise it will cease to exist as a state. And the United States will continue to strike out from under the silence on Assad's advancing army.
  26. +1
    9 December 2015 15: 44
    Iraq is silent, as they understand there - this is not the time to ask for help. Russia is still very busy. There are still many things to do in Syria. Although some help can be provided - flight personnel, instructors, consultations ...
  27. +1
    9 December 2015 15: 45
    Where is the author of the article rushing? First, the country's leadership will make a political decision and then everything else. It’s not enough that we all want to, but we have our hands untied to put the pluses and minuses But to think how to ensure all this both politically and economically and so that everything does not jump out of international law question What is allowed to the chaos Erdogan is not allowed to a serious person in the person of GDP
  28. 0
    9 December 2015 16: 04
    It is necessary to squeeze if the opponent is mistaken.

    The official position of the West: Iraq does not actually control the north of the country, and therefore Turkey has the right to send troops to train rebels. Territorial integrity sideways.
    The official position of the Russian Federation: Ukraine does not actually control the east of the country, and therefore Russia has the right to send troops to train rebels. Territorial integrity sideways.

    This I advise Churkin :-)
  29. 0
    9 December 2015 16: 05
    Before asking for help, Baghdad must inflict an air strike on the Turks. You have to get into a fight. Time is running.
  30. 0
    9 December 2015 16: 06
    Once again, for those who are especially smart, Turkey shot down a Russian plane while carrying out a combat mission that was in the sky of Syria legally, Russia responded only with sanctions, what do you want from Iraq, we do not control the sky in Syria, what kind of Iraq? Besides Daesh there is also a rather powerful coalition, which, alas, is not opposed to us (we do not consider nuclear weapons, but in vain), who is waiting for Russia there?
  31. 0
    9 December 2015 16: 09
    capture combat-ready vehicles, thereby significantly enhancing their potential.

    funny, Iraqi warriors cannot fly efficiently on new aircraft, but bearded ones, who have enough brains for one "catch phrase" and the ability to cut off their heads!
    Although if among them there will be allies from the CIA, then it may be complete
    1. 0
      9 December 2015 16: 21
      The problem is that the "bearded" ones are not defining there. Recently it was reported that the latest flight simulators have already been installed in Sirte, Libya. And not "bearded men" will study, but people from Europe. With a good European education and good physical fitness. There are enough gyms in Europe.
  32. 0
    9 December 2015 16: 19
    Iraq and its government are still under US control. First, it will not ask; secondly, the Russian Federation has already made it clear that it will not respond to the request. Russia does not refuse to sell modern weapons to Iraq, shares information. If part of the barmalei runs back and forth across the border, then this is the problem of the Iraqi army. That the Syrian army, that the Iraqi do not show much zeal and success in the war. The minimum task for the Russian Federation is to gain a foothold on the coast and not allow the routing of a legitimate government. It’s also unreasonable to get involved in Iraq without solving a problem in Syria.
  33. 0
    9 December 2015 16: 35
    Quote: Bakht
    Muslims do not drink. That's for sure. And those who drink are not Muslim. I can wear green socks and let go of my beard. But I will not become a Muslim. :-)

    He would categorically disagree with you ... Perhaps you are a connoisseur of Islam, if you are so confident in talking about who is Muslim and who is not) Then please tell me: How is Islam different from ISIS from canonical Islam? They are always accused of distortion, but NEVER say what exactly they distorted.
    1. 0
      9 December 2015 17: 08
      As far as I understand the opinion of ISIS, they do not distort anything. They urge you to read the Qur'an yourself and communicate directly with Allah. They do not need intermediaries in the form of a mullah or a mosque. "Allah is in my heart and he is always with me." That is why mosques and other places of worship are not needed either. Cemeteries and worship of dead stones are not needed. There is no Kaaba, and therefore they threaten to come to Mecca and blow up the sacred stone. For the simple reason that it is just a stone and has nothing to do with religion.

      You can find exactly the same sects in Christianity. Protestants speak a little less radically but about the same. It’s just that these are frostbitten all over their heads and cut other people's heads.
  34. 0
    9 December 2015 16: 59
    I’m just not a connoisseur of Islam. Always been an atheist. If it is forbidden to drink by the Qur'an, and a person drinks, then he is a non-Muslim. This is an axiom. This is a matter of faith. What he says to himself does not interest anyone. It is important that Allah speaks about him. And Allah will kick him in the ass to the Iblises.

    There are many Muslims around me. None of them drink. Not a sip. Despite the fact that before they drank good enough. Haram is even considered to sit at the same table with drinkers. With difficulty they could seat one at our table. And then he sat away from us and drank tea.

    So your friend is not a Muslim. You can tell him this from me. And who he considers himself is his own business. This has nothing to do with Islam.
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    9 December 2015 17: 05
    Quote: Atrix
    Quote: aktanir
    It is necessary to help Iraq financially

    And maybe enough to feed foreign countries at the expense of their citizens? What kind of stupid slogans, let’s help financially, Russia that suddenly became the first world economy or the budget is already surplus and there is no place to make money?

    And let us help financially, and militaryly, against the Isils and the United States. And the oil ...
    To whom, how, for how much, in what ways, and through which banks, what currency ... We will decide for ourselves.
    Iraq, like Syria, are far from being poor countries. They have something to pay for our help.
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    9 December 2015 17: 25
    Quote: Bakht
    I’m just not a connoisseur of Islam. Always been an atheist. If it is forbidden to drink by the Qur'an, and a person drinks, then he is a non-Muslim. This is an axiom. This is a matter of faith. What he says to himself does not interest anyone. It is important that Allah speaks about him. And Allah will kick him in the ass to the Iblises.

    There are many Muslims around me. None of them drink. Not a sip. Despite the fact that before they drank good enough. Haram is even considered to sit at the same table with drinkers. With difficulty they could seat one at our table. And then he sat away from us and drank tea.

    So your friend is not a Muslim. You can tell him this from me. And who he considers himself is his own business. This has nothing to do with Islam.

    Are you an atheist, and your true Muslims surrounding you, are not threatened by the Sharia for you? And then, after all, the Qur'an clearly spells out what to do with non-Muslims. By the way! Also an axiom) Use caution.
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      9 December 2015 17: 39
      I live in a secular state. And my friends are not Wahhabis. Just one of them had a discussion with the frostbitten. By the way, he also calls them not Wahhabis, but Salafis. He barely took his feet. Despite the fact that the guy is not frail addition and went through hot spots.

      So for now, everything is fine in Azerbaijan. On the street you can see two girls-girlfriends. I can’t do one in the mini, the second in the hijab. :-) This I exaggerate, but just a little. :-)
  37. 0
    9 December 2015 17: 29
    So nothing new:
    eliminate the root cause, not the consequences ... That is, you need to destroy the patrons of the terrorists.
    I think everyone knows who it is?
    Of course - USA! ....
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    9 December 2015 18: 44
    Iraqi military pilots can be dragged, of course not for thanks, and a field test with real conditions will contribute to this.
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    9 December 2015 20: 03
    Author, what are you talking about? what is the victory of Russia? Are we fighting a state or a regime, by defeating which we will get preferences, territories, money? what do we get by bombing lousy bandits ?? piece of Iraq? or Syria? your government in these countries? compensation from the governments of these countries? what? I do not understand...