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MFA: Washington made a fuss about the INF Treaty to justify approaching Russian borders

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  1. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 3 December 2015 13: 04
    +14
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs answers beautifully))) Let's hope that the Ministry of Defense acts no less beautifully)))
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS 3 December 2015 13: 06
      +12
      Quote: stock buildbat
      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs answers beautifully))) Let's hope that the Ministry of Defense acts no less beautifully)))


      to justify the development of its programs and the proximity of military infrastructure to the borders of Russia


      The age-old dream of the Anglo-Saxons is to saw off Mother Russia. It seems like we will disperse them to their homes, and they again pull their tentacles to our borders. I'm afraid I'll have to cut them off again soon ...
      1. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 3 December 2015 13: 15
        +13
        I’m bastard from overseas males, so they can develop their Aegis, that is, a missile defense system, but at the same time everyone is looking for loopholes in the laws so that we can be left extreme, oh, scum ...
      2. cniza
        cniza 3 December 2015 13: 22
        +7
        Quote: SS68SS


        The age-old dream of the Anglo-Saxons is to saw off Mother Russia. It seems like we will disperse them to their homes, and they again pull their tentacles to our borders. I'm afraid I'll have to cut them off again soon ...



        This time it is necessary to chop off to the ears so that they would not grow anymore.
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      4. Amurets
        Amurets 3 December 2015 13: 35
        +4
        Quote: SS68SS
        The age-old dream of the Anglo-Saxons is to saw off Mother Russia. It seems like we will disperse them to their homes, and they again pull their tentacles to our borders. I'm afraid I'll have to cut them off again soon ...

        It is not necessary to chop off the tentacles, but to tear out the heart so that they die completely and irrevocably.
    2. Tor5
      Tor5 3 December 2015 13: 08
      +3
      I'd like to believe that we are indeed meeting the offensive US-NATO position on this issue fully armed.
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 3 December 2015 13: 17
      +5
      As far as I remember, they signed it in 1987, so let them catch a humpback dangling somewhere in the west, and ask him why they gave him money, but the contract turned out to be bullshit! am
      1. 34 region
        34 region 3 December 2015 13: 21
        +3
        And he will torture them. You promised not to push NATO east! recourse
        1. Dembel77
          Dembel77 3 December 2015 13: 49
          0
          “Moreover, it is supposed to implement all these measures, even if the situation with the INF Treaty is resolved
          Who would doubt it. After all
          Russia has come close to the borders of NATO
          . And to be honest, the Russian Federation didn’t violate the INF Treaty; we have all of them only sea-based. But for the presumptuous vultures from the Pentagon, this is not an argument.
    4. The black
      The black 3 December 2015 14: 11
      +3
      Right! If our enemies are howling, then we are doing everything right. smile
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 3 December 2015 14: 41
      +1
      Quote: stock buildbat
      The Ministry of Foreign Affairs answers beautifully))) Let's hope that the Ministry of Defense acts no less beautifully)))

      And our MID and MO always had a good sense of humor and resourcefulness. hi
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 3 December 2015 13: 05
    +13
    We are not required to comply with treaties that do not meet the interests of our national security.
    The states promised to withdraw nuclear weapons from Western Europe. Brought out? - No.
    NATO promised that there would be no expansion of the bloc, that not a centimeter would come close to the borders of Russia. Fulfilled your promise? - No.
    So why should we fulfill our obligations when more and more new weapons are deployed on our borders?
    Let them calm down and pray to God that (so far) there are no our bases with serious weapons somewhere in Cuba, or in Venezuela ... !!!
    1. andj61
      andj61 3 December 2015 13: 25
      +3
      Quote: sever.56
      We are not required to comply with treaties that do not meet the interests of our national security.
      The states promised to withdraw nuclear weapons from Western Europe. Brought out? - No.

      Did the states conclude an agreement on the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from Europe? -No!
      Quote: sever.56
      NATO promised that there would be no expansion of the bloc, that not a centimeter would come close to the borders of Russia. Fulfilled your promise? - No.

      Did they conclude any agreement on this subject? - No! Gorbachev and Shevarnadze at one time calmed down with promises - but these promises are just zilch.
      Quote: sever.56
      So why should we fulfill our obligations when more and more new weapons are deployed on our borders?

      Then, that it is profitable for us! While it’s profitable, of course. We don’t have enough medium-range missiles to deploy them. But we respond with both Caliber and Tu-22MZ. And re-creating RSDs is very expensive.
      But suppose we started this arms race. The Americans have more money, and any RSD in Europe, and especially Poland, the Baltic states, is already strategic for us: it easily reaches our territory, and we won’t get the RSD in the states, we need real strategists with a range of at least 8000 km .
      And they made a cry in order to knock grannies out of the budget again - for missile defense, aviation, and other programs.
      This is a provocation, and we should not give in to it. hi
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 3 December 2015 13: 32
        +4
        sever.56 (1)
        Let them calm down and pray to God that (so far) there are no our bases with serious weapons somewhere in Cuba, or in Venezuela ... !!!

        It would be necessary for Russia to hurry up with the appearance of these bases there!
        1. Al_oriso
          Al_oriso 3 December 2015 14: 12
          +1
          I think that there are already bases there. Or something else serious.
        2. go21zd45few
          go21zd45few 3 December 2015 14: 18
          +1
          Suppose that Russia has bases in Mexico and Venezuela. In the USA, a crisis will immediately arise due to a shortage of toilet paper.
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      4. sever.56
        sever.56 3 December 2015 14: 25
        -1
        Quote: andj61
        Did the states conclude an agreement on the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from Europe? -No!

        Quote: andj61

        Did they conclude any agreement on this subject? - No! Gorbachev and Shevarnadze at one time calmed down with promises - but these promises are just zilch.


        Well, what, by God, did you "conclude", "did not conclude" ... They and the treaties that they signed can easily terminate - on missile defense and START-3 they refused? - Refused. All the agreements that they have entered into and do not comply with cannot be counted.


        Quote: andj61
        Quote: sever.56
        So why should we fulfill our obligations when more and more new weapons are deployed on our borders?

        Then, that it is profitable for us!



        What is the benefit ??? The fact that they with their "Tomahawks" can finish off from the territory of the Baltic States and Poland to Moscow in minutes, and from the Barents Sea in minutes to cover the bases on the Kola Peninsula ???


        Quote: andj61
        .A re-create RSD - very, very expensive.


        And why did you decide that our "Calibers" and "Iskander" have only a short range? About the "arms race" - it is generally not clear ... Who told you that it is necessary to rivet new missiles in tens of thousands?


        Quote: andj61
        This is a provocation, and we should not give in to it.


        We heard such words in the past, and we know what it cost us ...
        1. andj61
          andj61 3 December 2015 15: 00
          0
          Quote: sever.56
          Well, what, by God, did you "conclude", "did not conclude" ... They and the treaties they signed, can easily terminate - on missile defense and START-3 they refused? - Refused.

          So about missile defense - they notified us, as it should, in advance - and withdrew from the contract. As for the START-3 - I have not heard, in my opinion, it is being executed exactly! It is in their interests - only funds falling under START-3 can reach the territory of the United States.
          Quote: sever.56
          And why did you decide that our "Calibers" and "Iskander" have only a short range? About the "arms race" - it is generally not clear ... Who told you that it is necessary to rivet new missiles in tens of thousands?

          About Caliber - I said the same thing. Why develop and produce ground-based systems if there are sea and air-based missiles that do not violate the INF Treaty. And as for the Iskanders, you are speaking from American words. They claim that Russia violates the INF Treaty because it creates missiles - both cruise and almost ballistic - with a range of up to 3000 km for the Iskander complex. Ours says that there is nothing of the kind, but the United States, developing interceptor missiles as part of the missile defense system, violates the INF Treaty, since these missiles - if they are land-based - are nothing but RSDs. And the fact that the guidance and control system is different, so put a nuclear warhead like that in a megaton - there will be no difference.
          And our bases on the Kola Peninsula and the entire territory of the European part, they can cover in any case - we will have the ground component of the RSD, or not. And not from the territory of the Baltic States or Poland - they have no ground axes there (they have no ground axes at all), but from their ships, submarines and aircraft. Therefore, it is necessary to answer adequately - not in Europe, Europe will be destroyed in the event of a conflict anyway - but in the territory of the USA itself. Only this can frighten them, and they will sacrifice Europe for one or two.
          And we are doing something in this regard. wink
          Unintentional bully - the leak about the "king-torpedo" says a lot!
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    3. yuriy55
      yuriy55 3 December 2015 13: 41
      +3
      We are not required to comply with the contracts ...


      We undertook mutual obligations when the United States expanded NATO to the east, and when they persistently created a missile defense system, and when they fed cookies (at their behest) to the Maidan, we had to remember everything and assume that Russia would never allow anyone to put feet on the negotiating table. It is in the order of things for them to have such piggy ways. Therefore, the decision of the President of the Russian Federation on the possibility of withdrawing from the INF Treaty was based on the "endless friendliness" towards us from the United States and its rotten policy of blaming the leadership of Russia and its citizens for all mortal sins.
      It remains to ask:
      "Dear (somewhere, perhaps)! What have we stepped on for you, that you scream like castrated rabbits all the time?"
      1. Alexanast
        Alexanast 3 December 2015 16: 05
        +7
        We didn’t attack them. They are pissed off simply by what we are.
  3. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 3 December 2015 13: 05
    +3
    They really wanted to raise their military spending! So they did it! The image of the enemy was a success. Now you can pour in! Horror main thing more catch up .. Pontus!
  4. Svarog5570
    Svarog5570 3 December 2015 13: 06
    +3
    So these are Americans, if you don’t scream loudly, then there will be no excuse for your actions, two-faced ghouls in one word
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 3 December 2015 13: 07
    +3
    Especially alarmingthat the hype around the INF Treaty artificially inflated by the United States is beginning to be used as an excuse for a "complex reaction"

    Of course, the language of the diplomat is very different from the simple Russian language. In a word, the excuses of the United States on all issues relating to Russia are already staggering. Patience comes to an end.
  6. Tanya Ya
    Tanya Ya 3 December 2015 13: 07
    +5
    But did we agree on something with them?
    I do not remember. repeat
    1. Days
      Days 3 December 2015 13: 12
      +4
      Agreed) On the rental of Alaska, the contract has already ended))
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 3 December 2015 13: 20
      0
      Quote: Tanya-Ya
      But did we agree on something with them?
      I do not remember.

      The hunchback-marked man handed over everything together with the Berlin Wall, Pioneer and Oka. A huge "Thank you" to him, together with the ASPEN CHAIN, to the grave. http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/oka/oka.shtml
      This is a link to Oku, if interested
      1. Days
        Days 3 December 2015 18: 45
        0
        Well, instead of the Oka, now Iskander, who is largely the development of the Oka
  7. Tatarus
    Tatarus 3 December 2015 13: 08
    +1
    About all "partners" of Russia.
    Based on articles of recent days.
    For the woodpecker was borrowed.

    Mind d * bilov not understand
    They only d * Unions only believe
    They are special b * core
    Let the carpenter measure them with a meter.
  8. ILIA
    ILIA 3 December 2015 13: 13
    +3
    Well, why bother with them about anything ...
    Create your own prodigy wunderwafle and let them fear)
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 3 December 2015 13: 27
      0
      http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/9k76/9k76.shtml
      Quote: ILIA
      Create your own prodigy wunderwafle and let them fear)

      Why create? They are now on the level. It’s easy to upgrade. It will cost cheaper. There are a lot of materials on the Internet. I gave a link to the Oka above, but you can find the Pioneer here too. Http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile /wobb/9k76/9k76.shtml
      And this is a link to another wunderwafl
      1. ILIA
        ILIA 3 December 2015 14: 10
        0
        Cognitively, of course, only this is the question we are bound by an agreement and many countries are not connected and are successfully developing and building them .... In short, I mean that we put spokes in our own wheels. We do not need this treaty ... Our "comrades" are violating it.
  9. Altona
    Altona 3 December 2015 13: 17
    +4
    Meanwhile, in social networks ...
    1. oleg46
      oleg46 3 December 2015 13: 47
      +2
      Class! Thank! Cheered up. It’s a pity that you can’t enlarge the photo. good
  10. Angryvinny
    Angryvinny 3 December 2015 13: 22
    -1
    Yes, Washington made a splash. And yes - brought it closer. And yes - it will continue to bring it closer and expand, while at our press conferences they will chew snot about "concern" about the actions of "partners".
  11. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 3 December 2015 13: 24
    +2
    Oh, Yellowstone — when will you wake up! And what can nobody help in this matter? wassat
  12. An64
    An64 3 December 2015 13: 27
    0
    As with the overseas @ wasps, that our Foreign Ministry has round-florid statements ... You can find out specifically - what is violating / not violating the INF Treaty?
  13. Monos
    Monos 3 December 2015 13: 32
    +4
    In KVN, the recipe has long been compiled ...

  14. fif21
    fif21 3 December 2015 13: 35
    +2
    What then are all the agreements with the United States?
    1. oleg46
      oleg46 3 December 2015 13: 56
      +1
      Not a cat, but a movie star! Handsome! good
  15. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 3 December 2015 13: 48
    0
    .. Conclusion: We need to work better and more successfully ....
  16. yury-xnumx
    yury-xnumx 3 December 2015 13: 57
    -2


    Barack Obama: Syria was Russia's only ally in the region, and today, instead of counting on Syria’s support and maintaining his military base, Mr. Putin is dropping all his troops just to support his only ally for a little while.

    Steve Croft: Perhaps Mr. Putin is trying to challenge your leadership on the world stage?

    Barack Obama: If you think that taking your country's economy to the bottom and sending troops to help your only ally is leadership, then we have different ideas about this concept. "
  17. vobels
    vobels 3 December 2015 14: 07
    0
    Raised a fuss for ".. the build-up of the American military presence at the borders of Russia in Europe ..". What would everyone cover their eyes and justify themselves before the international community. And they themselves did not stop building up and strengthening.
  18. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 3 December 2015 14: 43
    0
    If our leadership changes rhetoric and begins to call a spade a spade, it certainly won’t be worse.
    In the meantime, we are standing in surprise and they will shove and poke us.
  19. Evgtan
    Evgtan 3 December 2015 14: 56
    +1
    Ancient NATO wisdom says:
    “Take care and protect Russia! For there is no Russia — there are no billions from the Congress for defense. ”