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"Thieves" family business

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R.T. Erdogan and his family are involved in the system of illegal oil supplies from Syrian fields, said Russian Deputy Defense Minister Anatoly Antonov at a briefing. However, the Turkish president does not admit his guilt even if his face is smeared with thieves' oil, Antonov said.




Turkish President R. T. Erdogan does not admit his guilt, even if his face is smeared with thieving oil, said at a briefing on the theme “The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the fight against international terrorism. New data "Deputy Minister of Defense Anatoly Antonov, transmits RIA News".

According to the deputy minister, R. T. Erdogan and his family are involved in illegal oil supplies from Syrian fields seized by the terrorists of the Islamic State.

“We know the price according to Erdogan. He was once caught in a lie by Turkish journalists who revealed Turkey’s supplies to the militants. weapons under the guise of humanitarian aid. For this, they planted journalists. The leaders, in particular, Mr Erdogan, will not resign even if their faces are smeared with thieves' oil, ”the agency quotes Antonov as saying.

“The cynicism of the Turkish leadership is limitless,” says Antonov. - See what they are doing ?! They climbed into a foreign country, shamelessly robbed her. And if the owners interfere, then they must be eliminated. ”

"We will continue to provide the facts of Turkey’ s plunder of its neighbors, "said Antonov.

Further, he told some details about Erdogan’s family business: “Perhaps I will be too direct, but the control over this thieving business can be trusted only to the closest people. No one in the West, interestingly, raises the question that the son of the Turkish President is the head of one of the largest energy companies, and the son-in-law is appointed energy minister? What a brilliant family business! .. ”

In general, let us add, the oil “business project” of Bilal, the son of Erdogan, is “oil export” from nearby territories, which were seized from the Syrian people and from the “butcher and killer” Assad (R.T. Erdogan’s expression ) terrorists from the "IG". An enterprising Bilal, covertly hidden by not less enterprising father Recep Tayyip, "cooperates" with these bearded men.

In the major media, it is easy to find pictures of smiling Bilal, starring with the militants of "IG". Type in the corresponding request in “Google” and admire a small collection gathered by journalists (including Turkish ones, who value real freedom of speech). In the Russian media, photos can be viewed, for example, on the website of the channel LifeNews. Here Bilal appears in all its glory, surrounded by bearded "warlords".

Even last year, Turkish journalists were interested in why Bilal’s ships were in Syria. Of course, they received no answer.

In general, Bilal Erdogan owns not just ships, but several shipping companies. In the press, you can find information that the president’s son has signed a contract to transport oil purchased from the militants to Asian markets. In shipping companies Bilal, notes "Russian newspaper", in the ports of Beirut and Ceyhan there are moorings, where the smuggled oil is delivered by tankers.

This information is confirmed from other sources, Western.

Site "Zero Hedge" (referring to ABC Media) gives some interesting details from the life of Bilal Erdogan.

The publication on the site states that the name of the “main culprit” of the regional crisis in the Middle East - Bilal Erdogan, the son of Turkish President Recep Erdogan - is increasingly appearing in the press. It is he who provokes the demand for oil of the "Islamic State". On the website this product is called "terrorist oil".

Bilal Necmettin (Necmettin Bilal) Erdogan was born on April 23 of the year 1980. He is the third child of Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

After graduating from high school in 1999, Bilal moved to the USA for higher education. He received a master’s degree from the Harvard University School of Government. John F. Kennedy in 2004, then worked for a short time as an intern at the World Bank. In 2006, he returned to Turkey and began a business career. Today Bilal Erdogan is one of the three equal shareholders of the maritime transport corporation BMZ Group Denizcilik.

Experts believe that there is growing evidence of the proximity of the "Islamic State" in Iraq and Syria to the family of Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Erdogan’s aspirations for neo-Ottomanism and his family’s contacts with terrorists threaten not only to destroy Turkey, but also to wreak havoc throughout the Middle East. In October, 2014, US Vice President Joe Biden, bluntly stated at a speech at Harvard University that the Erdogan regime supported IG. Support is expressed in "hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of tons of weapons." True, Mr. Biden later apologized, and it is clear that the apologies were made in order that the Americans could get permission to use the Incirlik airbase in Turkey. So says analyst F. Engdal.

"IG" and their oil trading have a surprisingly long time, experts say. Washington, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are trying to fight the militants, but they have little to do. The reason is the huge scale of support for terrorists Erdogan and A. Davutoglu, who imagines himself to be the agents of the ideas of neo-Ottomanism.

Oil trading from IG to Zero Hedge is called with irony “a good family business.” The cheap sale of smuggled oil to the Erdogan family is the main source of money for IG. The son of Erdogan, in turn, sells oil further.

Bilal Erdogan, the owner of several shipping companies, allegedly signed contracts with European operating companies selling contraband oil (primarily Iraqi) to markets in different Asian countries. Bilal offshore companies will use their own special berths in Beirut and Ceyhan, and from there crude oil will be transported by tanker to Japan.

Gürsel Tekin, vice president of the Turkish Republican Peoples' Party (Turkish Republican Party), recently told the local press that “President Erdogan claims that there are no legal violations regarding Bilal’s illegal activities under international transport conventions; his son is doing business with registered Japanese companies. ” In fact, Bilal Erdogan, Tekin notes, "is an accomplice of the terrorists, and as long as his father occupies a high position, he will be covered from any prosecution." Moreover, Tekin said that Bilal’s maritime companies are a real “family business, as close relatives of President Erdogan have shares in BMZ, and they are insolently turning public funds and illegally taking loans from Turkish banks.”

That is why the policy of "zero problems with neighbors", once proclaimed by Ahmet Davutoglu, led to "huge problems" with its neighbors. The reason for this was “the stupid ambitions of Erdogan and his gang” (“foolish ambitions of Erdogan and his gang”), notes “Zero Hedge”.

“The Turkish president’s conversation with his son leaked to the network“ miraculously ”, the Russian channel reports "Vesti". - Discussed far from the weather. Inquisitive journalists revealed the scheme. It turned out that oil comes to Turkey by caravans (our VKS had been bombed them not so long ago), in Turkey it already goes by local transport to the ports, well, and from there it ships to European tankers going to Japan. ”

In addition, the presidential family receives revenues from the sale of Syrian values ​​and illegal arms traffic. In the scheme, remind "Vesti", everyone participates: father, two sons, Ahmet Burak (engaged in gold) and Bilal, uncle of the president Mustafa, daughter with son-in-law.

“Today, Turkey is a close ally of the United States, and therefore it has the unofficial right to do anything,” said Marcus Papadopoulos, editor-in-chief of the British magazine Politics First, quoting the channel. - With the support of America. If we talk about internal problems, then human rights have always been grossly violated in the country. Every Turkish government has always harassed journalists who conducted independent investigations, because they wrote about corruption, about how human rights are violated. Journalists are arrested, imprisoned, tortured, many are even killed. If you look at foreign policy, Turkey has always been a source of instability in the region. ”

Political scientist and Syrian public figure Ali Salim Assad, whose words are "Russian newspaper", believes that the terrorists of "IG" repeatedly hid from the Syrian army and the Russian Aerospace Forces on Turkish territory - they were let in by border guards.

Political analyst Vladimir Evseev says that Ankara is cooperating with IG for the sake of oil revenues and the fight against the Kurds. Officially, Turkey supports the antiterrorist coalition.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu previously noted that the terrorists of the IG, whose positions are in Syria, are losing half a million dollars every day because of the air operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces. Discontinued supply to the black market 60 thousand tons of oil per day, said channel LifeNews.

And therefore, we add in conclusion, the attack by the Turkish Air Force of the Russian Su-24 aircraft, which allegedly found itself in Turkish airspace and received all the necessary warnings, is not surprising. The family of Erdogan, in whose oil and logistics business one of the key roles is played by his son Bilal, due to the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces misses big potential profits. The United States, however, seems to be well aware of the commercial affairs of the Turkish family, keep quiet because at this stage they have similar goals - the overthrow of B. Assad in Syria.

Understanding this, the cunning Erdogan is not in a hurry to “strengthen” the Turkish-Syrian border, which he was advised the other day by the Americans, whom the free movement of the militants of the “IG” to and fro became bored. About the dissatisfaction of Washington wrote recently "The Wall Street Journal". According to US officials, the Obama administration insists on Turkey deploying additional troops along the border with Syria to close the 60-mile segment of the border. Just this site is used by the militants of the "Islamic State".

However, things are still there. "Thieves business" Turkish family continues.

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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 4 December 2015 06: 41 New
    16
    R.T. Erdogan and his family are involved in the system of illegal oil supplies from Syrian fields, Deputy Defense Minister of the Russian Federation Anatoly Antonov said at a briefing. However, the Turkish president does not admit his guilt even if his face is smeared with thieves' oil, Antonov believes
    .более того,эрдоган заявил что это Россия(!!!!!!!!!) нефть у ДАИШа скупает! наверное мы бомбим собственные "газпромовские" бензовозы...вот нас понесло... wassat
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 4 December 2015 07: 19 New
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      Already for DAISH and Turkey, Mazu pulls the northern Kurdistan of Iraq, if not strange. They said that the video provided by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation captured their oil tankers following to Turkey from Kurdistan of Iraq. Do the grandmothers and promises of the United States really cover the eyes of Iraqi Kurds that they spit on Kurds from Turkey and Syria? what
      1. nekot
        nekot 4 December 2015 09: 09 New
        +7
        It’s very funny, that is, through Iraqi Iraqi fuel trucks go to Turkey, and we bomb them (by the way, the USA too))))? And the Kurds are silent and begin to give out interviews to the Turkish media only after a briefing by the Russian Defense Ministry? Explicit crap or Iraqi Kurds or, rather, the Turkish media))
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 4 December 2015 10: 28 New
          +3
          Why is this oil called contraband. Smuggling is what is legally produced but not legally imported into another country. Bypassing border and customs points. In this case, everything happens exactly the opposite. They deliver oil in the open, without concealing border controls. But the oil itself is stolen.

          That is, instead of the article, one phrase could be written. Erdogany hereditary huckster.
        2. castle
          castle 4 December 2015 12: 08 New
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          Прежде, чем начать возмущаться словами председателя энергетического комитета парламента Иракского Курдистана Шерко Джавдата, который, своим заявлением, поставил в неудобное положение представителей МО РФ, у которых были "100-процентные доказательства" того, что ДАИШ продаёт ворованную нефть через Курдскую территорию в Турцию (через Курдов ДАИШ на пройдёт, но и Ассад там не друг), или писать, в Российских СМИ, статьи, типа, "Курды нас предали" или "Турция подкупила Курдскую верхушку", надо вспомнить недавнее прошлое.
          В недавние времена, когда Россия сооружала "дружественные" отношения с Эрдоганом и нуждалась в Турции ("импортзамещение" товарами и продуктами из Турции и "Турецкий поток"), на уровне междуправительственных разговоров Россия, специально, замалчивала "Курдский вопрос". Вот Курды и научились обходиться без России. И чего теперь с ними делать? В очередных врагов их записать? Лучше пусть уж представители МО "сто раз отмерить", а один раз скажут. Сейчас их слова не только Российская публика за МКАДом слушает и слезу умиления точит, и не только "Первый канал" расширяет в прямом эфире по всему миру.
          And, suddenly, with a fool, not enough verified information and Mr. Putin can substitute.
          И немного из "теории заговоров". А, вдруг? Специально подставляют? Судя по выражениям лиц публики, которая присутствовала в Георгиевском зале, во время выступления Президента, так оно и будет. С подставой.
      2. Good me
        Good me 4 December 2015 19: 08 New
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        The latest and most alarming information about the actions of the Turks.

        Телеканал "Звезда" сообщил о вторжении турецких войск на территорию Сирии.

      3. Serhio
        Serhio 4 December 2015 20: 05 New
        +1
        This was reported by the Daily Sabah-Turkish news agency. Question: Can I trust him? negative
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 4 December 2015 08: 11 New
      +5
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      R.T. Erdogan and his family are involved

      Involved .... They organized the main ...
      1. Patriot 1
        Patriot 1 4 December 2015 09: 52 New
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        Патриот 1 SU  30 ноября 2015 07:46 | В Турции арестованы высокопоставленные военные по обвинению в "попытке совершения госпереворота"





        I recently wrote a comment:

        Patriot 1


        В свете последних событий, думаю, что Эрдоган - политический труп (в лучшем случае - политический). Сейчас под этот шумок его "назначат" главным и единственным покровителем ИГИЛ. А это будет на руку и Амераканцам и Саудитам с Катером.


        Well, that’s the opinion of experts smile :
        "IG" and their oil trading have a surprisingly long time, experts say. Washington, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are trying to fight the militants, but they have little to do. The reason is the huge scale of support for terrorists Erdogan and A. Davutoglu, who imagines himself to be the agents of the ideas of neo-Ottomanism.
    3. Sashka
      Sashka 4 December 2015 10: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Already for Daesh and Turkey, northern Kurdistan of Iraq pulls the maz, oddly enough

      That's right.
      "Председатель энергетического комитета парламента Курдской автономии Северного Ирака Шерко Джевдет заявил, что бензовозы на снимках, опубликованных Минобороны России в качестве доказательства поставок в Турцию нефти группировкой «Исламское государство», якобы принадлежат иракским курдам." (с)http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/12/4/781839.html
      I won’t be surprised if this is true (just like if it turns out to be a duck ... paradox), because I do not trust any Shiites, Kurds, etc., to the eastern peoples. Muslims ... Well, there is no trust in them. There they have how, as the Mufti of the Qur'an interprets, so the majority will behave. Saying jihad to all infidels means jihad. Fortunately, we have the majority of Muslims more sane, educated (compared to the Middle East), mentors seem to be campaigning for Russia. Kadyrov, Yevkurov. I think that they are ready to recognize those de Turks as unfaithful, and to fight for Russia. Well, if there were other leaders there, maybe, of course, it would be different ... Good day.
      1. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 4 December 2015 12: 11 New
        +1
        Iraqi Kurds, Turks, igil, states - they are all in one bunch. that is why they laugh at mo’s attempts to expose Erdogan. Do you think that you can do Recep with your finger? He buys oil directly from Isis; does he throw money from his card? his son, a conscientious buyer, takes oil from the Iraqi Kurds, and where they get it from is the question for them. and for each subsequent exposure they will have an alibi.
      2. Alexvl
        Alexvl 4 December 2015 15: 17 New
        +1
        We are waiting for rebuttals or evidence. I hope ours didn’t think of uploading a photo from some other locality and we can precisely attach the picture to a certain territory. Otherwise, we will look like Semchenko, who brought photographs of our tanks from Georgia to the United States. In any case, there will be more and more throws. The information war is not for life but for death.
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      4. Alexvl
        Alexvl 4 December 2015 15: 34 New
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        If this were true, the Turks would be the first to declare this right after the briefing.
    4. TURAR
      TURAR 4 December 2015 11: 46 New
      +2
      On November 26, units of the Turkish army invaded Syria and occupied a 50-meter-high Tal-Ziyab hill. Infantrymen crossed the border, accompanied by bulldozers. Occupying the height, they immediately began to build fortified areas, and a day later three tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles and several armored SUVs arrived at the place. Obviously, with this step, Turkey wants not only to divide the territory where the Kurds live in half, but also to cover the supply of tanks with Syrian oil, which Daesh militants * are taking out of Raqqa.
    5. vodolaz
      vodolaz 4 December 2015 11: 46 New
      +4
      I read here in the news how one pro-Erdogan journalist tweeted a poll on the subject of who buys oil from DAISH, he upset the result and deleted the poll, but our diplomats from the embassy in Turkey took a screenshot)))
      https://twitter.com/RusEmbTurkey/status/672127485232984065
      PS. I don’t know how to insert a link to Twitter, so I show it like this.
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 4 December 2015 18: 27 New
        +1
        I don’t know, have you seen? Kadyrov’s appeal in response to challenges from the enemies of Russia:
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 4 December 2015 18: 27 New
        0
        I don’t know, have you seen? Kadyrov’s appeal in response to challenges from the enemies of Russia:
    6. Bolhevik
      Bolhevik 4 December 2015 21: 46 New
      0
      Где борцы Гринписа - "Сирия-санрайз" штурмующие нефтянников "ИГИЛ"? Пора начинать приковывать себя к бензовозам. Куда смотрят зеленые.
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 4 December 2015 06: 43 New
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    Yesterday, the editor of the pro-Erdogan newspaper decided to do a survey.
    Who buys oil from Igil. There were three options: Turkey, Russia?! And other countries.
    As a result, 75% of voters were for TURKEY! The poll was urgently deleted
    1. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 4 December 2015 07: 12 New
      +7
      Erdogan is not even believed by the Turks. 78% of the nearly 18 thousand who voted for an hour, said that Turkey Erdogan is buying oil from terrorists.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 4 December 2015 07: 24 New
      13
      The Association for Assistance to Defense Enterprises Association (LSOP) invited Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin to rename the capital lane in honor of the dead pilot of the downed Su-24, where the Turkish Embassy is located. This was reported by TASS with reference to the head of the League, the first deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on Industry Vladimir Gutenev.

      “I received an appeal from a member of the Bureau of the League, Alexei Aleshin, to perpetuate the memory of the commander of a Su-24M bomber shot down by a Turkish fighter in Syria, Lt. Col. Oleg Peshkov, and renaming Moscow's 7th Rostov Lane in honor of the Hero of Russia, pilot Peshkov. Most members of the League Bureau supported this proposal, ”Gutenev said, adding that the corresponding letter has already been sent to Sobyanin.

      http://lenta.ru/news/2015/12/04/pereulok/
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 4 December 2015 06: 44 New
    +6
    Honestly, our messages are not needed by anyone and will not be of particular benefit. The states already know everything, and a hundred-strong gang will do what the owner orders. On the contrary, we give the Americans a chance to better grab Erdogan by the testicles so that they can better manage and not rock the boat with their initiatives.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 4 December 2015 06: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: inkass_98
      Honestly, our messages are not needed by anyone and will not be of particular benefit.

      and the information war?
      1. Vikings
        Vikings 4 December 2015 12: 08 New
        0
        The information war, makes a wide throw-in of materials-
        fishing of compromising individuals or states.
        With the subsequent transfer of incriminating evidence to international organizations
        investigations. We have not yet specialized
        shim. But in vain, if there are significant facts, it is necessary to convene a pres-
        conferences. Publish facts for a wide international
        obehodnosti!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 December 2015 07: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: inkass_98
      Honestly, our messages are not needed by anyone and will not be of particular benefit.

      Yes, almost zero. Western media vaguely called it, a new round of complication between Russia and Turkey. Of course, without writing, almost nothing about the oil trade. The Turkish, as if on command (although most likely on command) are generally silent. nothing.
  4. Glot
    Glot 4 December 2015 06: 44 New
    +4
    Turkish President R.T. Erdogan does not admit his guilt, even if his face is smeared with thieves' oil ....


    This is called, even *** in the eyes of all God's dew.
    But nothing, our VKS now, for him (and not only him), is bombarded with bombs and missiles in their black business.
    And then we must continue. Bomb, bomb and bomb !!!
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 4 December 2015 11: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: Glot
      And then we must continue. Bomb, bomb and bomb !!!



      Good day to all.
      Touched by a small incident.
      Намедни вечером пошёл за продуктами в магазин. На пандусе возле магазина, поджав ноги и "кося" под вояку-инвалида, сидит пьяный в хлам мужичонка (лицом - Винсент ван Гог с отрезанным ухом). Перед ним коробка из-под "сникерсов" для сбора подаяния - явно собирает для очередной "заправки". На голове кепарь НАТОвского образца (явно из "секонд-хенд"), а на плечах куртка окраса между синим и красно-кирпичным. Запашок от него на расстоянии 5 метров ...- не "шанель №5", но с ног валит как хук Тайсона.
      I quickly run past and suddenly behind, the chattering bass of Chaliapin is heard with decent observance of the melody:

      "То не бор трещит,
      Not yellow hollows
      This is our videoconferencing
      Басмачей бомбит"

      I was dumbfounded, returned, unfastened a fifty kopeck box for a morning beer for polishing (the peasant drooped his head and sweetly moaned).

      ps Nevertheless, our people are not discouraged and talented. I smiled and went to the store. bully
    2. sannych
      sannych 4 December 2015 11: 39 New
      +4
      Ukraine steals gas, Turkey - oil. On this basis they will be friends.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 4 December 2015 13: 13 New
        0
        Putin islamizing Russia, Erdogan Turkey, on this basis and have partnered.
        And who doesn’t like it, so three years ago the Syrian forces shot down a Turkish bomber.
  5. PSih2097
    PSih2097 4 December 2015 06: 49 New
    +2
    Well, Erdogan doesn’t want, let our Air Force do the sowing with mines, the same POM no matter what to hammer, for militants or for fuel trucks ...
  6. vicdoc63
    vicdoc63 4 December 2015 06: 59 New
    -10
    But what exactly did ours show? Snapshots drone? So in the General Staff themselves recognized that there are flocks of others flying. Everything's all filmed. But there are no concrete facts. Where are the specific bank transactions indicating the payer and the recipient?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 December 2015 07: 12 New
      +8
      Quote: vicdoc63
      But in fact, what ours showed? Drone shots? So the general staff themselves admitted that flocks of others fly there. All take off. But there are no concrete facts. G

      Oh, and here is the representative of the US State Department.
      Good day dear! Tell me you are not worried about the presence of the Russian squadron off the coast of Belarus?
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 4 December 2015 07: 37 New
        10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Oh, and here is the representative of the US State Department.
        Good day dear! Tell me you are not worried about the presence of the Russian squadron off the coast of Belarus?


        Alexander, or maybe it's the Turkish tomato lobbyists who connected, have you thought about this option? laughing
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 4 December 2015 07: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: vicdoc63
      But what exactly did ours show? Snapshots drone? So in the General Staff themselves recognized that there are flocks of others flying. Everything's all filmed. But there are no concrete facts. Where are the specific bank transactions indicating the payer and the recipient?


      Do they drive their operations through the accounts of Sberbank of Russia or Russia, we are in charge of SWIFT, Viza / master ?! Can you still be provided with personnel where the son of Erdogan is personally driving the oil tanker or at the tanker in the Turkish port? fool
    3. Oladushkin
      Oladushkin 4 December 2015 08: 18 New
      +7
      Payment documents? Are you crazy? Trade stolen oil! There can be no payment documents in nature. Turks are buying stolen goods. This is the same as asking for payment documents from a thief who takes a stolen mobile phone to a pawnshop. And there can be no documents!

      Удивление вызывает то,что скандалу минимум неделя на "большом ТВ " winked

      and ours still could not (did not want to?) destroy the sources of oil production. The easiest way to shandarahnut missiles at the wells and all. Business is zero. Why is this not done? Ecology? Well I do not know.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 December 2015 09: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Oladushkin
        Payment documents? Are you crazy?

        Well, you’re right, it’s the representative of the State Department, we’ll forgive laughing
    4. andj61
      andj61 4 December 2015 08: 29 New
      0
      Quote: vicdoc63
      But what exactly did ours show? Snapshots drone? So in the General Staff themselves recognized that there are flocks of others flying. Everything's all filmed. But there are no concrete facts. Where are the specific bank transactions indicating the payer and the recipient?

      They showed where and where fuel trucks with oil are coming from.
      And banking transactions should be required from Turkey and the United States - they probably all have it.
      But calculations can be made in cash.
  7. uhu189
    uhu189 4 December 2015 07: 14 New
    -8
    It would be very nice if our Defense Ministry still more responsibly approached the numbers and information that it voiced at the briefings. Exposure of 200 000 barrels of oil per day from ISIS (the Igil seized deposits in Syria and Iraq didn’t give half of this even in peacetime), columns of fuel trucks, which later turn out to be Kurdish, supposedly oil depots, which in fact are gas processing plants and other ... It’s clear that Erdogan is rare cattle, but if you are already trying to expose him, then approach this more seriously and responsibly so that later on we and our arguments will not be laughed all over the world, although in essence we are right ...
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 4 December 2015 08: 10 New
      +5
      so that later on over us and our arguments do not laughed worldwide

      Something was not laughing. Confusion was (how to react now), there was surprise, there was no laughter.
      Do you seriously believe that the Russian Defense Ministry did not prepare for this briefing, but gathered pieces of paper that were at hand and immediately to a foreign military attache (who are professional legal intelligence officers) and journalists under their breath?
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 4 December 2015 10: 40 New
        -1
        I myself ask this question - why did the MO make such a statement. I do not believe that the military does not know and does not understand the real volume of oil production in Syria and Iraq. Apparently there were some reasons to voice inaccurate information. But it sounded a little wild. After all, the problem is not even in volumes - IG sells oil not only from Syria and Iraq, it sells oil from Libya, and according to various estimates it sells more from there, and no one prevents this sale. Plus, in Syria they also sell grain and agricultural products, and this is also a significant source of income.
    2. Polkanov
      Polkanov 4 December 2015 10: 15 New
      +1
      ... yeah, do not litter with words, but give either facts or nothing ...
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 4 December 2015 10: 28 New
        -1
        Why do not you require facts from the Moscow Region, but demand them from me? Well, if you want to know what materials I rely on - here is the link http://ig.ft.com/sites/2015/isis-oil/ There is information on the flow rate of deposits. I think you can sum up for yourself?
    3. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 4 December 2015 12: 24 New
      -1
      my, frankly, amuses everyone with their exposures. It is clear to everyone, let alone Putin, that it is always possible to answer all the evidence, photos, voice recordings and copies of documents simply: this is a lie.
      and that’s all, don’t need to prove your innocence, give any kind of counterargument, nothing needs to be done.
      everyone, including us, is doing this.
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  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 December 2015 07: 17 New
    +4
    The Kurds have already said that it is their tank trucks.
    I wonder if the Americans advised them to do so?
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 4 December 2015 07: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: Zomanus
      The Kurds have already said that it is their tank trucks.
      I wonder if the Americans advised them to do so?

      Хороший ход. А я думал, неужели американцы в наглую проигнорят видео, как бензовозы пересекают турецкое КПП. И включат "дурачка", как Руина.
      1. spolo
        spolo 4 December 2015 07: 53 New
        +7
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Quote: Zomanus
        The Kurds have already said that it is their tank trucks.
        I wonder if the Americans advised them to do so?

        Хороший ход. А я думал, неужели американцы в наглую проигнорят видео, как бензовозы пересекают турецкое КПП. И включат "дурачка", как Руина.

        Kurds from Iraq sell neht and fuel trucks travel through Syria to Turkey ..
    2. andj61
      andj61 4 December 2015 08: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      The Kurds have already said that it is their tank trucks.
      I wonder if the Americans advised them to do so?

      A bit wrong - they said that their fuel trucks were also shown. Antonov showed several routes for delivering oil to Turkey, including from Iraqi Kurdistan from groups competing with the anti-Turkish Workers' Party of Kurdistan to Turkey. But this is only ONE of the many oil supply routes. But Kurds cannot deliver oil through the territory occupied by ISIS.
      1. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 4 December 2015 14: 33 New
        0
        why can't? war is war, but they don’t touch each other’s business, do not allow this?
        in the conditions of that streak, which is in Syria and Iraq, otherwise a complete collapse of all parties to the conflict.
        do not forget that besides dudes with machine guns, millions of people live there, and people need food, manufactured goods and money to buy it.
        I didn’t hear that during the conflict someone was blocking the cities and districts in which hunger ensued. then everything is messing around, everything is being traded and everything is being bought.
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  9. Karavan-150
    Karavan-150 4 December 2015 07: 32 New
    13
    Russian sailors showed Turkey their contempt ...

    The large landing ship of the Black Sea Fleet "Saratov" did not raise the traditional "guest" Turkish flag while passing through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles from the Black Sea to the Mediterranean Sea.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 4 December 2015 12: 03 New
      +1
      Sorry, you just woke up? Yesterday this news was very actively discussed at VO.
      1. castle
        castle 4 December 2015 13: 31 New
        +1
        This is not a show of contempt, this is a show of your rudeness and disregard for the owners of the house you walk through their yard. Do not like to remove the hat in front of the owner? Walk the other way! This is in Russian customs.
  10. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 4 December 2015 07: 51 New
    +1
    The advice of America is just for the sake of excuse so that it is heard in the world. This advice does not require compliance.
  11. asar
    asar 4 December 2015 07: 55 New
    +2
    The hat is on the thief
  12. sl22277
    sl22277 4 December 2015 07: 56 New
    +1
    Anyone understands that Erdogan and his family did business with ISIS! And the United States preferred not to notice it just because it is more convenient to govern Erdogan and Turkey ... The Americans knew that the evidence would be made public, so they insisted that Turkey cut off the border with Syria. What they feared was what they got. A similar situation is with Dill, only the scale is more modest. Valtsman and his team of thieves engaged in the blood business are proof of this. Poroshenko is the richest European head of state, despite the fact that he leads the poorest country in Europe. The conclusions suggest themselves ...
    1. Throw
      Throw 4 December 2015 08: 11 New
      -1
      Since when did the poor U / Outskirts appear in / on the number of European countries ?!
      Geyropeytsy in courses?

      Krajina tse not Europa and not even Asia ..

      Ethnically soon Australia!



      bully
      1. sl22277
        sl22277 4 December 2015 08: 29 New
        0
        [quote = Lance] Since when has a poor U / Outskirts appeared in / on the number of European countries ?!
        Geyropeytsy in courses?

        Krajina tse not Europa and not even Asia ..

        Ethnically soon Australia!

        About Ukraine, among the countries of Europe there is not even a hint in my comment. There is an example of how those in power profit from popular blood. (Your sarcasm, to put it mildly, is not at all appropriate here).
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  13. EvgNik
    EvgNik 4 December 2015 08: 07 New
    +1
    ""посоветовали на днях сделать американцы, которым свободное перемещение боевиков «ИГ» туда-сюда понемногу стало надоедать""
    They only advised and immediately received a terrorist attack. Either you need to think before you advise, or really fight.
  14. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 4 December 2015 08: 17 New
    +1
    Erdogan no longer has a family business. Burned all over the world, he had to turn off his bloody business when Russian troops arrived in Syria. Now it’s not too late.
  15. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 4 December 2015 08: 20 New
    0
    Perdogan is not to blame! We otkhapal Crimea to dig a hole before Turkey and poke Syrian oil! Putin personally helped to dig
  16. gregor6549
    gregor6549 4 December 2015 08: 24 New
    +4
    Меня удивляет одно. А что раньше Российское Правительство было не в курсе темных делишек турков, в том числе тех что они проворачивали в России еще с ельцинской поры?. Все и все прекрасно знали, что не мешало "дружить" с турками и активно развивать совместный турецко российский, в том числе бандитский бизнес. И только после недавних известных событий Правительство России встрепенулось и стало активно изливать в СМИ компромат на турков вообще и на Эрдогана в частности. При этом не желая видеть в упор прегрешения своих же министров и прочих сильно приближенных к телу гаранта Российской законности. Одна сердюковщина чего стоит. И где Сердюков сейчас? Сидит, но не на нарах а в весьма роскошном кресле. А за него отдувается стрелочница. А сейчас на горизонте уже новый скандал, С пернатых мы турким прокурором и его семейством. А мы о каких то турках. Со своими турками бы разобраться
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 4 December 2015 09: 57 New
      +1
      Очепятка. Вместо "С пернатых мы турки прокурором..." следует читать "С пернатым прокурором...."
  17. Engineer
    Engineer 4 December 2015 08: 25 New
    0
    And the Iraqi Kurds said that it was their wagons and the Russians were wrong. Like this. Kurd Kurd strife!
  18. parusnik
    parusnik 4 December 2015 08: 25 New
    0
    However, things are still there. "Thieves business" Turkish family continues...Понятное дело, не он один кормится..кому-то еще перепадает.."крыше" например...
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 4 December 2015 08: 47 New
    +1
    it makes sense to think aka Syria to appeal to an international court with a claim for damages caused by Turkey ...
  20. viktor561
    viktor561 4 December 2015 09: 23 New
    0
    Quote: Oladushkin
    The easiest way to shandarahnut missiles at the wells and all. Business is zero. Why is this not done? Ecology? Well I do not know.

    Ecology is the same. Well, then restore to whom? Us!
  21. Belousov
    Belousov 4 December 2015 09: 40 New
    +1
    This business brings gorgeous profits, so no one will voluntarily curtail it. So you need to stop all movements in Syria. In my opinion, it’s worthwhile to bomb the oil fields and explain why: Assad does not have enough strength to take control of these fields in the near future (ours help, but the Syrians themselves have resisted for more than 4 years, there is no physical possibility) then the Ishilovites and Turks will have to bomb them in order to receive at least some profits. As a result, the infrastructure will be restored anyway, even for a while, but we will interrupt the oil traffic and sub-port Erdogan’s wallet and its owners.
    In addition, if suddenly a couple of tankers catch fire in Turkish ports, I personally will definitely not grieve. But this is already a question for GDP and the corresponding services, if it is still able to.
  22. starwars
    starwars 4 December 2015 09: 48 New
    +1
    78% OF TURKS BELIEVE ERDOGAN PURCHASES OIL FROM ISIS
    anti-maidan news

    78% of Turks believe that Erdogan buys oil from ISIS

    video (2)
    - 78% of Turks believe that Erdogan buys oil from ISIS
    - Erdogan is trying to maintain position by raising salaries in Turkey. belay
  23. Man1
    Man1 4 December 2015 10: 11 New
    0
    The Iraqi Kurds called their shown the Ministry of Defense oil tankers ISIS: http: //www.rbc.ru/politics/03/12/2015/56609bba9a79472dabc8cb71

    Well then, why lie? Why did our Defense Ministry shout to the whole world about irrefutable facts proving the ownership of these ISIS trucks ??
    1. Bvg132
      Bvg132 4 December 2015 18: 56 New
      -1
      Humbly, the Iraqi Kurds recognized the oil tankers as theirs, instead of raising the whole world in this case. Who will believe this?
  24. Kim Klimov
    Kim Klimov 4 December 2015 10: 12 New
    0
    Одним словом - "эрдоганщина"!
  25. NeRTT
    NeRTT 4 December 2015 10: 24 New
    +2
    Blast the entire territory near the borders and the road completely to ravage !! So that the road from the checkpoint to these places of oil is turned into holes and dunes !! Yes, and you can poke anti-tank mines in those areas with airplanes !! Let them ride, ignite with the words: Sala Barn! !! am
  26. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 4 December 2015 10: 28 New
    0
    The haws family. In life, they are destined to step on a rake.
  27. Ajjh
    Ajjh 4 December 2015 11: 33 New
    +4
    A weakly the same article only about Kremlin officials?
    Now only about Seagull is infa, about his fraud
    what next? if you drip deeper? where did the shoigu get such a palace? how much has Putin?
    Or about your nekomelfo? do we not notice the log in our eye? but specialists in others will even find an extra atom wink
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 4 December 2015 17: 08 New
      +1
      Family business. I thought about the Rotenbergs. So, Ukrainians are already offended, now Russians hate more Turks than Ukrainians.
      недавно статью интересную прочитал. Там, "а если Эрдоган покается, помиримся и снова начнём партнёрить, что будут делать авторы, так усердно поливающие главу Турции?"
  28. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 4 December 2015 11: 41 New
    0
    their expert on the censor))))) using the Google eart program proved that these pictures are fake)))) the joke is that they believe him. He is an expert (just a type with a computer and program)
  29. bubla5
    bubla5 4 December 2015 12: 15 New
    +1
    Well, everything is just like ours
  30. dummy
    dummy 4 December 2015 13: 16 New
    +1
    Well, where do the Somali pirates look! Such tankers are missing out! It is necessary to tell the FSB who does not need to.
  31. Geo73
    Geo73 4 December 2015 14: 43 New
    +2
    Dear Author! I would like to believe the article when it weren’t for dubious photos of Pasha’s son posing with ISIS fighters. The fact is that some clearly anti-government organizations are http://www.novayagazeta.ru/politics/70980.html?utm_source=see_also&utm_medium=cl
    ick & utm_content = relap & utm_campaign = relap_vs_nextclick believe these are hotel owners.
    Not so all stiltedly respected and unverified information does not inspire confidence, unfortunately, to the article as a whole. A lot of market dies and uncompromising. Voted against yours. Nothing personal.
  32. salman5151
    salman5151 4 December 2015 14: 54 New
    +1
    Let the author read: http: //www.novayagazeta.ru/news/1698444.html? P = 2 # comments
  33. mamont5
    mamont5 4 December 2015 17: 14 New
    0
    Quote: Nevsky_ZU
    Already for Daesh and Turkey, the northern Kurdistan of Iraq is pulling the maz, oddly enough.

    Ничего странного, раз Ирак против ИГИЛ, значит иракские курды против врагов ИГИЛ. "Враг моего врага - мой друг."
  34. Earnest
    Earnest 4 December 2015 17: 28 New
    0
    Quote: uhu189
    ... Let's take - a barrel of oil - if roughly 160 liters, or 0,16 m3. According to the same FT data, the volume of oil production is 38500 barrels per day or 6160m3. ... Tell the amateur, since you are such a great expert, how can almost produced wells, with a known daily oil volume, produce 26000 tons per day? ...

    Я вот по-другому посчитал, "по крестьянски". Заявлено, что маршрут Сирия-Турция обслуживают 1700 нефтевозов и фур. Возьмем стандартные 33 куб. м на одну машину, с оборачиваемостью двое суток, тогда уже 1700*33/2=56100/2=28050 куб.м в сутки, или 176 428 баррелей. А если кто скажет, что оборачиваемость может быть более двух суток - тогда покупатель не Эрдоган, а сразу Меркель laughing
  35. hly
    hly 4 December 2015 17: 42 New
    -2
    Why tourists .....
  36. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 4 December 2015 17: 55 New
    +1
    Уже выяснилось, что на фото бензовозы курдов, наших новых друзей против турции. Ценность доклада - отрицательная, враньё. Подозреваю все остальные доклады по Сирии делают те же "специалисты", и врут там точно так же.
  37. Northern Fleet
    Northern Fleet 4 December 2015 18: 29 New
    +2

    They blew up the granary. Most people consider idiots
    1. GraveBezKresta
      GraveBezKresta 4 December 2015 21: 24 New
      0
      But for sure, this is not an oil storage facility. No fire, no fire, nothing ... Well done, you noticed! And then everything flashed by. And about the family business, we'd better shut up. We have one Abramovich shut up their entire mafia for the belt (not a bottom for him, not a tire).
  38. Gato
    Gato 4 December 2015 20: 11 New
    0
    At this time, Yaytsenyuh (head of government-KAMIKADZE) visited the American aircraft carrier. There is something about it!
    Доплывет ли "Рузвельт" до базы?
  39. Man1
    Man1 4 December 2015 22: 17 New
    +1
    There is no faith in our Moscow Region, how many times have they been convicted of lies. I can’t understand what is the point.
  40. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 4 December 2015 22: 30 New
    +2
    The cynicism of any government is unlimited!
    If they get to the country's resources, then they cannot be stopped!
    What country is this and whose resources are the authorities do not care!
    Power drags oil, gas, metals, electricity, ... and just sells the land for nothing!
    Here the authorities are so united that there are unfounded suspicions that this is a well-organized narrow circle of people! Elite, you panim! )))
  41. robbihood
    robbihood 5 December 2015 10: 31 New
    0
    Прочитав материалы про бензовозы, вспомнив сводки о уничтоженных ТЫСЯЧАХ КОМАНДНЫХ ПУНКТОВ ИГИЛ, десятках тысяч "уничтоженных" боевиков, невольно расшифровываю аббревиатуру МО - Министерство Обмана. А все эти километровые украинские штурмовики!? Короче, держат за идиотов . Что обидно, даже союзнику-белорусу.
  42. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 5 December 2015 12: 50 New
    +1
    Theft of authorities breeds the poverty of the common people in the country and the demise of the economy. This leads to a lack of job prospects and just a normal life. This pushes people to terrorism.
    Even young people from elite universities in the capital are fleeing there.
    This pushes the authorities to military operations and to the slogans of patriotism and unity of the nation.
    In the international arena, this leads to sanctions, which leads to the collapse of the economy, which leads to poverty, ... then see above.
    The circle is closed! Is there a way out of it? Of course!
    The authorities need to stop stealing and betray the country! Will they understand this? We will see!
    There was nothing to read here! Therefore, I will say for the time being to this project!
  43. Bryanskiy_Volk
    Bryanskiy_Volk 6 December 2015 00: 30 New
    0
    Предлагаю новый глагол - "Эрдоганить" (воровать по крупному, мухлевать, жульничать)
    Существительные - 1)"Эрдоганство"(внешнеполитическая доктрина, основанная на лжи и лицемерии)
    2)"Эрдоганка" (ИГИЛовский нефтевоз) )))