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High-ranking military officers arrested in Turkey on charges of "attempting a coup d'etat"

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Turkish News Agency Anadolu reports that three former and current high-ranking military officers were arrested in Turkey on the eve and accused of spying for foreign intelligence and, as they say, to the heap - of leading a terrorist organization. We are talking about Generals Ibrahim Aydin, Hamza Dzhelepoglu and the retired colonel Burhanetdin Jehangiroglu. The chief prosecutor of Istanbul issued a statement saying that these people were "preparing a coup d'etat."


High-ranking military officers arrested in Turkey on charges of "attempting a coup d'etat"


The opposition Turkish press reported that the three Turkish military might have been somehow involved in the sensational verification of the Turkish National Intelligence trucks carrying the Syrians instead of humanitarian aid. weapon and ammunition to terrorists across the Turkish-Syrian border. The trucks were stopped to check the goods by border guards, after which the connection of the Turkish government agencies with terrorists in Syria and surfaced.

Recall that earlier, the editor-in-chief and one of the journalists of the Turkish edition were arrested on charges of complicity in terrorist activities. Cumhuriyet. The fact is that it was in this edition that the material about the real contents of the trucks sent by Turkish intelligence to Syria came out. Turkish President Erdogan is demanding that the court convict journalists with a life sentence.

As it can be seen, an obvious “cleansing” of all those who can somehow interfere with the implementation of the plans of Erdogan and his family, as well as those who are not used to hiding the truth from the public, begins in Turkey.

It should be noted that earlier Erdogan conducted a similar “sweep” in the ranks of the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces, after which many high-ranking officers were in prisons.
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 30 November 2015 07: 04 New
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    High-ranking military officers arrested in Turkey on charges of "attempting a coup d'etat"


    Recently, journalists were arrested there on charges of supporting terrorists.

    Erdogan suffered here ... he began to get rid of potentially dangerous people for his family ... dictator what else to say.
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 30 November 2015 07: 13 New
      19
      Quote: The same Lech
      High-ranking military officers arrested in Turkey on charges of "attempting a coup d'etat"


      Recently, journalists were arrested there on charges of supporting terrorists.

      Erdogan suffered here ... he began to get rid of potentially dangerous people for his family ... dictator what else to say.

      No, what a dictator he is. The dictator would have shot right away, and entot the court wants, shit, however, STSUKA.
      1. Wild_grey_wolf
        Wild_grey_wolf 30 November 2015 07: 27 New
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        with Erdogan, you can do business with the light of democracy, and Assad means a bloody and oppressor of the people. . . and they also want to prove something to us, their innocence.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 30 November 2015 07: 39 New
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          Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
          with Erdogan, you can do business with the light of democracy, and Assad means a bloody and oppressor of the people

          I’m wondering all the time - when will America begin to democratize Saudi Arabia? There, women are still stoned for betraying her husband and chopping thieves' hands. Or have absolute monarchy and sharia become a model of democracy?

          Although, on the other hand ... We, of course, are far from an American-looking democracy - the “young reformers” of the 90’s did not manage to shove us into it, no matter how they tried. I don’t know how it is with the unfaithful wives and pickpockets, but I would not only cut hands to thieves in high offices. Personally. What can we do - we are wild, eastern barbarians ... Where are we to the civilized West with plague blankets for Indians and gas chambers ....
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 30 November 2015 10: 12 New
            0
            Well, sweetie to Perdogan for broken relations with Russia. The states of the generals handed over to him, whom they themselves were preparing for the coup.
      2. GSH-18
        GSH-18 30 November 2015 07: 38 New
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        The chief prosecutor of Istanbul issued a statement stating that these people "were preparing a coup d'etat."

        It’s unfortunate that they didn’t succeed!
        1. meriem1
          meriem1 30 November 2015 07: 49 New
          +3
          Quote: GSH-18
          The chief prosecutor of Istanbul issued a statement stating that these people "were preparing a coup d'etat."

          It’s unfortunate that they didn’t succeed!


          Yes, they are the switchmen appointed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the prime minister of Turkey went for three billion to Merkel. And about the downed plane there is silent. After all, a sacrificial cow is appointed. Even as many as three. Erdogan is not petty !. And now he has nothing to do with it. Now they will say to us that he somehow did not know !!!! And his son does not sell oil ((((((((
          1. andj61
            andj61 30 November 2015 08: 17 New
            +9
            Quote: meriem1
            Quote: GSH-18
            The chief prosecutor of Istanbul issued a statement stating that these people "were preparing a coup d'etat."
            It’s unfortunate that they didn’t succeed!

            Yes, they are the switchmen appointed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Three people, one of whom was a retirement, were preparing a coup! Yes laughter it! According to the Turkish constitution adopted at Ataturk, the army is the guarantor of the secular nature of the Turkish Republic, and Erdogan is slowly shifting the nature of the state towards the first Islamized and then Islamic. So he continues to clear the army of possible opponents - the only structure that can interfere with him. After all, there were already numerous repressions - both arrests and executions of high-ranking military men - this is just another series.
            The descendant of the Georgian Muslim (Ajarian) - Erdogan follows the path of just a Georgian - Saakashvilli. It's just that the matter has not yet reached the tie.
            1. CONTROL
              CONTROL 30 November 2015 08: 57 New
              +2
              Quote: andj61
              According to the Turkish constitution adopted at Ataturk, the army is the guarantor of the secular nature of the Turkish Republic, and Erdogan is slowly shifting the nature of the state towards the first Islamized and then Islamic. So he continues to clear the army of possible opponents - the only structure that can interfere with him. After all, there were already numerous repressions - both arrests and executions of high-ranking military men - this is just another series.

              Yes, Erdogan has a long-standing disagreement with the army ... Now, apparently, there is a squeezing by any means those from the officer corps who adhere to Ataturk's ideas, although the Turkish army also has, so far, a few radical Islamic wing ...
              That’s the thought - didn’t they "kick in the back"? And was there only this blow to the back of Russia? ...
              ... On the other hand, recalling the story - Atatürk, the "father of the Turks" - was far from an angel ...
            2. NordUral
              NordUral 30 November 2015 09: 24 New
              0
              Will reach him.
            3. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 30 November 2015 11: 30 New
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              Firstly, the Constitution of 1961 was in force in Turkey, and then 1982, adopted after the death of Ataturk. The provision on the special powers of the army as a guarantor of the secular nature of the state was introduced in 1982 at the initiative of generals who committed the 1980 coup. Erdogan, relying on a majority in parliament, removed these provisions from the Constitution.
          2. Karlovar
            Karlovar 30 November 2015 12: 13 New
            0
            I agree! Switchmen are identified and appointed ... Now there will be an investigation, probably for some time, and then the "involvement" of the generals in the incident with the Su-24 will be "revealed" .... Classics of the genre!
        2. SibSlavRus
          SibSlavRus 30 November 2015 09: 30 New
          +3
          The beginning cannot but rejoice. There is even no need to prepare the opposition there - just support it, they will do the rest.
          From the very beginning of Erdogan’s reign, Turkey has been squeezed into Sharia norms, losing the secular nature of the state. The Ottomans are still not Arabs, for the most part they do not want to be "dragged out."
          Mustafa Kemal AtaTurk in his grave is probably turning over from neo-Ottoman politics (and it means the same as Lenin in the Union).
          The most interesting thing is that the implementation of this policy is impossible without the support of (already historical (!) Enemies of Russia in Europe, as before, fearing the strengthening of Russia (especially the events (wars) of 1853-56, 1877-78, this is clearly shown), and now also the United States leading role) from the outside.
          If Russia alone is able to withstand the whole of NATO and even the United States, then NATO can not do it alone. Even the not-so-strong former Yugoslavia was first torn by a crowd in a civil war, and then a crowd (!) Of NATO was beaten.
          Erdogan is an ardent supporter of the neo-Ottoman imperialist idea and pan-Turkism. What is the idea of ​​the Great Turan! Which does not interfere with the Islamic fundamentalists.

          But everything is hindered by Russia, which is also capable of uniting historical Turkish enemies on the basis of pan-Slavism and the Eurasian idea.
          But most of all they are annoyed by the union of Russia and Iran, as a regional leader. Persians, not Turks! Shiites, not Sunnis. Exactly on this, including puts Russia, as on more sane. But for the majority of the secular nature of the Turkish population, this does not matter at all.
          Russia’s welcome to Iran for regional control, strengthening and revitalization of the CSTO, successes in Syria (+ the region’s most experienced army), support for the Kurdish movement with emphasis on diplomacy, creation of motivation and incentive for historical enemies of Turkey (including Serbia, Bulgaria, Greece, Armenia and others), the final resolution of the issues of Nagorno-Karabakh, ahead of the Turks and the hedgehog with them, all this in the long run, can impose the iron will of Russia. And the top of skill should be the overthrow of the Erdogan regime by the Turks themselves, with all the consequences, by the forces of the army, because here, just like in Egypt and Latin America, the authority of the national army is unshakable.
          It is necessary to demonstrate to the West how Russia can skillfully use their own weapons.

          The main thing is that the enemies would begin to understand that the times of our generosity and humanism, which were not appreciated and neglected, have irrevocably passed.
          Now is the time to complete historical justice and work on historical errors.
          1. kush62
            kush62 30 November 2015 10: 16 New
            +1
            SibSlavRus
            Mustafa Kemal Ata Turk in a coffin is probably turning over from neo-Ottoman politics

            Muslims are not buried in coffins.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 30 November 2015 11: 32 New
            0
            All the same, pan-Turkism and neo-Ottomanism somewhat contradict each other.
        3. Karlovar
          Karlovar 30 November 2015 12: 10 New
          0
          Recep to these flip generals and try to throw arrows over the downed Sushka ...
      3. Same lech
        Same lech 30 November 2015 07: 54 New
        +3
        The dictator would have shot immediately


        So he shot his main oppositionist ... arranging it as an attack by the Kurdish workers' party ... now all the sins of Erdogan are blamed on the Kurds in TURKEY.
      4. Same lech
        Same lech 30 November 2015 07: 56 New
        +2
        In the south-east of Turkey in the province of Diyarbakir, the famous Turkish lawyer Tahir Elchi was killed. Extremists began to shoot at the moment when the lawyer spoke to reporters.


        Poor thing ... music didn’t play for long .... Erdogan’s work is felt for the Kurds dumping everything, the Kurds don’t need his death.
    2. Lepila
      Lepila 30 November 2015 07: 24 New
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      Perdogan burns the last islands of resistance to Islamic dictatorship. The world is silent as usual ...
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 30 November 2015 07: 49 New
        +3
        Perdogan burns the last islands of resistance to Islamic dictatorship. The world is silent as usual ...


        Bomb at a residence sympathetic to ERDOGAN terrorists ... the world will not be silent ... it’s not forever that Hezbollah is pressed in SYRIA by the blows of the Israeli Air Force.

        However, your special forces distinguished themselves in due time ...

        Experts: Israeli special forces killed activists of the "Freedom Flotilla" from an unknown weapon
        Surprising conclusions were reached by experts who examined the bodies of nine Turkish militants who died when Israeli special forces seized the ship Mavi Marmara, which tried to deliver cargo to the Gaza Strip ...


        Respect ... hi
        1. andj61
          andj61 30 November 2015 08: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: The same Lech
          However, your special forces distinguished themselves in due time ...

          In fact, the Israeli specialists themselves, in particular, Y. Kedmi, believe that in this case the special forces did not work professionally, which led to the victims.
          It was imperative that some of these “activists” be left alive for further work ...
        2. Lepila
          Lepila 30 November 2015 11: 18 New
          +2
          The “activists” of the “humanitarian flotilla” were finalists in the kickboxing championship of Turkey. Our naval commandos did not know this and landed on a ship from a helicopter, armed with paintball guns and Glocks. When kickboxers began to kill them with iron rods, they had to open fire to defeat from the Glocks. So there is no question of any secret weapons ...
      2. 34 region
        34 region 30 November 2015 08: 01 New
        +1
        But is not Israel scared surrounded by such partners? After all, if something they throw Israel with slippers!
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 30 November 2015 08: 12 New
          +3
          After all, if something they throw Israel with slippers!


          Tried ... Arabs are a terribly disorderly people of no discipline and organization.
          It is not surprising that ISRAEL defeated this whole fraternity due to higher organization and motivation ... all the same, the existence of the Jewish state is at stake, and here the Jews do not make any compromises.
        2. miru mir
          miru mir 30 November 2015 10: 40 New
          +4
          Such "casters" were not few here wink
      3. andj61
        andj61 30 November 2015 08: 25 New
        +8
        Quote: Lepila
        Perdogan burns the last islands of resistance to Islamic dictatorship. The world is silent as usual ...

        And you pay attention: the world - more precisely, the so-called "world community" is always silent, or, in extreme cases, quietly expresses a certain concern when oppositionists and all kinds of rebels in Asia, Africa, throughout the Muslim world are destroyed, but even the same costs in its infancy, to happen in Russia, Serbia or even Israel - howl rises immediately, terrorists are justified, etc. Erdogan ironed the settlements of Turkish Kurdistan with tanks and aircraft throughout the summer of 2015 - and who even said a word about this? Erdogan ensured a mass exodus of refugees to Europe - did someone express a sharp protest to him?
        Double standards rule rotten European democracy ...
      4. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 30 November 2015 09: 57 New
        +8
        He can burn anything, but he cannot be a full-fledged dictator. As long as I don’t look at him, I come to the conclusion that it is inadequate. Or even easier to say crazy. A dictator is a very difficult and responsible position, and far from everyone has dealt with it in history. Because unlimited power requires individual self-control and self-discipline. And he does not have enough responsibility to the state. All more are selfish and family affairs.
        By the way, he rightly felt the threat ... the military and the journalists. But the decision is quite at the level of the collective farm chairman. Now in the age of the Internet and digital gossip, it is impossible to conceal the dirty deeds by stuffing enemies in prisons ...
        His further “reign” will now depend on only one thing ... whether the Turkish people are psychologically ready to fight with us ... And based on this, the fate of Turkey will be decided.
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 30 November 2015 07: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: The same Lech
      Erdogan suffered here


      This is where Erdogan-don’s “blows”: after all, this is the East and military coups are a common thing there - too many purges are registered with the Sultan so that the army does not try to take power into its own hands ...
      1. 34 region
        34 region 30 November 2015 08: 03 New
        +1
        It looks like two armies. One official, another illegal. Here in the official and cleaned a bit. So the coup will be done by an illegal army. I think so. Can anyone else have versions?
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 30 November 2015 11: 07 New
          +6
          Versions depend on how the information is presented ...
    4. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 30 November 2015 07: 32 New
      +2
      Authorities in Turkey dig their own grave.
    5. vkl-47
      vkl-47 30 November 2015 07: 40 New
      0
      typical window dressing
    6. Finches
      Finches 30 November 2015 07: 50 New
      +3
      Erdogan had to remember that it was a good tradition for the Turkish sultans to invite fined dignitaries to coffee with diamond dust! It’s easier for guys to sit on a stake ... Then it would really be a dictator, and a petty tyrant would squeeze oil from a neighbor, like a gopnik to a mobile in a dark gateway at a late passer-by, feeling his impunity under the roof of authoritative boys from the local police department!laughing

      But seriously, I repeat-Erdogan a little beguiled that now is not the 16th century in the yard, but the 21st!
      1. 34 region
        34 region 30 November 2015 08: 06 New
        +2
        Apparently their system does not differ from the 16th century. winked
    7. Sirocco
      Sirocco 30 November 2015 08: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech

      Erdogan suffered here ..

      Rather, it did not incur, but spun. It reminds me of a sick dog chasing its tail. They cheated him, so it started))))
    8. Vikings
      Vikings 30 November 2015 08: 54 New
      +2
      + Looking for potential switchmen, on which you can
      push down our downed plane. Something like that before
      Putin will justify, at the same time and clean up the ends.
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 30 November 2015 12: 40 New
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        The military could indeed have substituted Erdogan as a version ... In any case, switchmen are appointed and it doesn’t matter whether the generals will innocently suffer in the case ....
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    10. Maxom75
      Maxom75 30 November 2015 09: 26 New
      +2
      Mursi planned the same thing in Egypt, but Isissi was faster. Erdogan cleans the last bastion of secular Turkey.
    11. Maxom75
      Maxom75 30 November 2015 09: 26 New
      +1
      Mursi planned the same thing in Egypt, but Isissi was faster. Erdogan cleans the last bastion of secular Turkey.
    12. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2015 10: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: The same Lech
      High-ranking military officers arrested in Turkey on charges of "attempting a coup d'etat"


      Recently, journalists were arrested there on charges of supporting terrorists.

      Erdogan suffered here ... he began to get rid of potentially dangerous people for his family ... dictator what else to say.


      The only adequate people in Turkey are the military.
      I hope that they will succeed and Erdogan, like Mursi (in Egypt), will smile broadly because of lattice and with a death sentence on his neck.
    13. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2015 10: 44 New
      0
      Quote: The same Lech
      High-ranking military officers arrested in Turkey on charges of "attempting a coup d'etat"


      Recently, journalists were arrested there on charges of supporting terrorists.

      Erdogan suffered here ... he began to get rid of potentially dangerous people for his family ... dictator what else to say.


      The only adequate people in Turkey are the military.
      I hope that they will succeed and Erdogan, like Mursi (in Egypt), will smile broadly because of lattice and with a death sentence on his neck.
    14. sssla
      sssla 30 November 2015 10: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: The same Lech
      Erdogan suffered here

      It has long suffered
    15. Altona
      Altona 30 November 2015 10: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      Erdogan suffered here ... he began to get rid of potentially dangerous people for his family ... dictator what else to say.

      ----------------------
      The American "democracies", or rather, the "democracies" supported by the United States, are extremely intolerant of a different opinion on the structure of their country. We look at those who were supported by the United States - Augusto Pinochet, Anastasio Somosa, these are in the past, the current ones are just tracing paper, though they are already a little parody - Petro Poroshenko, Recep Erdogan ... "Democratically" come to power and immediately turn everything into dungeons and prisons .. .
    16. vodolaz
      vodolaz 30 November 2015 11: 14 New
      +1
      In Turkey, the hunt for witches and objectionable has begun.
  2. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 30 November 2015 07: 06 New
    +9
    What to expect!
    Erdogan begins to panic and take inappropriate and punitive measures. Thrown allies from NATO and the United States, is insured "not childish"!
    Becoming quite interesting is the course of further events in the turretchina!
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 30 November 2015 07: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: Mihalich17
      What to expect!
      Erdogan begins to panic and take inappropriate and punitive measures. Thrown allies from NATO and the United States, is insured "not childish"!
      Becoming quite interesting is the course of further events in the turretchina!

      The result will be similar to the times of Stalinist repression. It will scare everyone, and everything will be quiet in Turkey. If you do not support the opposition. And now there is no one to support.
      1. Throw
        Throw 30 November 2015 07: 59 New
        +2
        But it would be necessary to support. Maydanchiki, cookies.
        It's time, I think, to transfer actions to the territory of the "partners" ..
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 30 November 2015 08: 58 New
          +4
          GSH-18 (5)
          The result will be similar to the times of Stalinist repression. It will scare everyone, and everything will be quiet in Turkey. If you do not support the opposition. And now there is no one to support.

          Well, you compared! Stalin's temporary with Erdogom? !!!
          Stalin had no business of his own; he did not steal anything from the Soviet people! And Erdogan is an international raider - a bandit with the psychology of the initial accumulation of private capital. Erdogan should be compared with Hitler - and even then it is impossible! Hitler compared to Erdoganam was a beggar !!!
          Erdogan is even worse than Hitler!
          Erdogan in general is a man from another - medieval and pre-medieval (!) - civilization! For Erdogan, it is necessary to look for comparisons with a person of the then history of the East, who belatedly burst into the modern world.
          1. Karlovar
            Karlovar 30 November 2015 12: 52 New
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            With whom from history can Erdoогan be compared? Maybe with Timur (Tamerlan) in the sense of motives, Timur began his career with the banal leader of a gang of robbers and his main goal in the campaigns was to get (rob, grab) ... True, Erdogan does not reach Timur very much in scale and genius ... Or with the Elder of the Mountain, Hassan ibn Sabbah, the founder of the Order of the Assassins, a terrorist state of the Middle Ages ... Again, it does not reach him with his mind and scope ...
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  3. 1536
    1536 30 November 2015 07: 07 New
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    Obama, this is repression! Why are you silent?
    Or when the fascists and terrorists pay in your common fund, then they are no longer fascists and not terrorists?
    1. Wild_grey_wolf
      Wild_grey_wolf 30 November 2015 07: 30 New
      +3
      Well, and what kind of business can you have with such Very Dark personalities?
      1. 34 region
        34 region 30 November 2015 08: 07 New
        +1
        wassat What kind of person, such and things.
  4. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 30 November 2015 07: 08 New
    +2
    Soon Perdogan will not be up to foreign policy.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 30 November 2015 07: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: armored optimist
      Soon Perdogan will not be up to foreign policy.

      Well, if only they will determine the “life sentence”, and then they can be pulled up for “actions incompatible with the greatness of Turkey” ...
  5. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 07: 08 New
    +5
    All the same, despite stripping, can the army once again save the country from Erdogan ?? It is unlikely that he uprooted everyone .. all the more so soon the economy can seriously wobble in Turkey and real followers of Ataturk will come on this wave ??
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 30 November 2015 07: 20 New
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      The army was removed from power quite decisively. Gul began, Davutoglu and Erdogan continue to do this. Since the time of Ataturk, the army has been the guarantor of the secular nature of power in Turkey, and these bros have carefully brought to power the Muslim Brotherhood and continue to strengthen radical Islam in the country. And they do it not sharply, but very thoughtfully and gradually, while maintaining the appearance of a secular state.
      1. Cheshire
        Cheshire 30 November 2015 07: 31 New
        +5
        And it will end like a revolution in Egypt with profound consequences for the Islamists. Oh, to survive!
        hi
        1. Vladimir 1964
          Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 14: 45 New
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          Quote: Cheshire
          And it will end like a revolution in Egypt with profound consequences for the Islamists. Oh, to survive!

          Maxim, why did you decide that a revolution is possible in Turkey? There is no revolutionary classics situation there. And the army has been subjected to purges far from the first year and is already pretty thinned out. Plus, in Turkey there are two security services that are quite actively pitted against each other, which is why they work quite efficiently. As for the people, most of them actively support Erdogan, if only because in reality the Turks have begun to live better over the past 10 years. And those who do not support are intimidated. Look at Ukraine, quite suitable for comparison. And Islamism has deep and strong roots in Turkey. And young people in Istanbul and Ankara, in the villages where almost three-quarters of the population lives, the Islamist moods are extremely high, who want to live in a “European” way.
          Something like that, colleague. hi
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 30 November 2015 07: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: inkass_98
        And they do it not sharply, but very thoughtfully and gradually, while maintaining the appearance of a secular state.


        Well, sometime the red line will be crossed (the shaitan knows where her military took her) laughing
        So the reality of a military coup exists ...
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 30 November 2015 12: 56 New
      +2
      In the spring, the Thai military has beautifully solved the difficult situation in the country! There, it didn’t reach the Maidan ... The Thai military acted not without the go-ahead of China for a hundred pounds ... The world "community" is silent, like a fish on ice ...
  6. Patriot 1
    Patriot 1 30 November 2015 07: 09 New
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    And this .... Erdogan calls Assad a tyrant? Well then, it's time in Turkey to defend democracy and save the people from a tyrant!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 November 2015 07: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Patriot 1
      Well then, it's time in Turkey to defend democracy and save the people from a tyrant!

      And who will do it?
      1. Patriot 1
        Patriot 1 30 November 2015 07: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: Patriot 1
        Well then, it's time in Turkey to defend democracy and save the people from a tyrant!

        And who will do it?

        In light of recent events, I think that Erdogan is a political corpse (at best, a political one). Now, under this guise, he will be "appointed" the main and only patron of ISIS. And it will be in the hands of both the Ameracans and the Saudis with Cater.
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      3. Darkoff
        Darkoff 30 November 2015 07: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: Patriot 1
        Well then, it's time in Turkey to defend democracy and save the people from a tyrant!

        And who will do it?

        Already do it.
        New tourists no longer go, visa-free regime, etc. is canceled etc.
        How it works, of course, you can still argue and reason a lot. Like, it didn’t affect us. But! The differences are significant. As significant as the differences between Putin and Erdogan.
        I rely on this: Turkey’s support for terrorists and Erdogan’s oil business was known more than a year ago. Putin patiently all this time pretended that this was not due to the fact that little data, information, evidence was collected. Why, Putin raised this topic just now? By the fact that the time has come. Sufficient compelling evidence was gathered (without this, Putin would not have opened his mouth), Erdogan got into it ... to my ears and they drove himself into a corner, both in foreign and domestic politics.
        Around Putin, a united people and, to put it mildly, a completely loyal army. Erdogan’s ratings are also decent so far, but Putin’s ratings have soared in Crimea, and Erdogan’s ratings have risen on a downed plane. Whose last longer, given the foundation?
        Well, at the expense of the army: judging by the repressions, Erdogan keeps the army at bay. If in the near future he does not provoke an external conflict, the army will become tired of fear and will go against it.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 30 November 2015 09: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: DarkOFF
          Already do it.
          New tourists no longer go, visa-free regime, etc. is canceled etc.

          Well, this will primarily hit the people who are going to save from the tyrant. smile One can only hope that the people affected by the sanctions will overthrow Erdogan. But it will already show time hi
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 11: 54 New
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            Quote: Bayonet
            One can only hope that the people affected by the sanctions will overthrow Erdogan. But it will already show time

            Sasha - Americans with the help of sanctions also hope to overthrow Putin .. and how do they do it ??
          2. Karlovar
            Karlovar 30 November 2015 13: 03 New
            +1
            The hotel business in Turkey is controlled by Kurds for 70-80 percent ... Their motivation, it turns out, is double ...
        2. CONTROL
          CONTROL 30 November 2015 09: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: DarkOFF
          Erdogan’s ratings are also decent so far ... and Erdogan’s ratings were raised on a downed plane.

          In our neighbors, the "travel agency" is not a tourist agency, but a Turkish one, builders ... After they shot down the SU-24, they all left work, going home ... manat, or something, to collect? ...
          ... rating, however!
          Quote: DarkOFF
          Well, at the expense of the army: judging by the repressions, Erdogan keeps the army at bay.

          ... the army? in fear??? Erdogan ?!
        3. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 30 November 2015 09: 30 New
          +5
          The Janissaries turned the cauldrons over and pounded them, and then the Sultan became scared!
      4. V.ic
        V.ic 30 November 2015 07: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        And who will do it?

        Askers led by Kemalist officers, when many millions of convertible currencies will be invested under this business.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 30 November 2015 09: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: V.ic
          Askers led by Kemalist officers, when many millions of convertible currencies will be invested under this business.

          Well, if we are not limited to them, then yes.
          A summary of Rosstat data showed a quick and not expected by analysts decline in real wages and disposable incomes. The fall in wages by 9-10%, which we now see, before that occurred in Russia only in the crisis of the 1990s, and so far there is no reason to suppose that it will soon end. Salaries are now being frozen or reduced, no new jobs are being created, and the inflation rate remains high.
    2. cniza
      cniza 30 November 2015 07: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: Patriot 1
      And this .... Erdogan calls Assad a tyrant? Well then, it's time in Turkey to defend democracy and save the people from a tyrant!


      Something the US is in no hurry to democratize Turkey, they are happy with everything and the base - an eastern outpost under Russia's nose.
    3. andj61
      andj61 30 November 2015 08: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Patriot 1
      And this .... Erdogan calls Assad a tyrant? Well then, it's time in Turkey to defend democracy and save the people from a tyrant!

      Erdogan was friends with Assad families, practiced a joint rest, and then abruptly broke off relations: relations with him began to interfere, according to Erdogan, the exaltation of Turkey. Apparently, the Qatari sheikhs and Saudi princes made an offer to Erdogan, which he could not refuse.
      After that, he also broke off friendly relations with Gaddafi.
  7. alex-cn
    alex-cn 30 November 2015 07: 09 New
    +1
    It seems that the armchair under the erdogan does not just crackle, but seriously swayed. He twitched, and began to crush anyone who got into it ... But he could even get to the dictatorship ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 07: 19 New
      0
      High-ranking military arrested in Turkey for "attempted coup d'etat
      transplant all army officers, let some corporals remain, it will be easier for us ...
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 30 November 2015 07: 31 New
        +3
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        transplant all army officers, let some corporals remain, it will be easier for us ...

        And what will be easier for us? Are you going to go camping? soldier
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 30 November 2015 07: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        transplant all army officers, let some corporals remain, it will be easier for us ...


        We will only have to worry about this :: brainless corporals will begin to revive the Great Ottoman Empire, and the military elite understands the danger of such actions in full view of Russia and to the detriment of it.
  8. izya top
    izya top 30 November 2015 07: 10 New
    +1
    shook turretchina
  9. shef598
    shef598 30 November 2015 07: 11 New
    0
    The flask was completely leaky !!!!
  10. dsi
    dsi 30 November 2015 07: 11 New
    +1
    As it can be seen, an obvious “cleansing” of all those who can somehow interfere with the implementation of the plans of Erdogan and his family, as well as those who are not used to hiding the truth from the public, begins in Turkey.

    Erdogan appoints the culprits. As always, the switchman is guilty ...
  11. pvv113
    pvv113 30 November 2015 07: 12 New
    +2
    Turkish President Erdogan demands that the court recognize journalists guilty with a life sentence

    Judging by the Turkish friends, I did not expect anything else.
    Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are
    Proverb tested for centuries. After the Su-24, the Turks suddenly became the best friends of banderlogs.
    Surprisingly, the Turks responded to the flirting of yellow and black reptiles - a real sodomy began on the Internet: kakly riveted videos about Turkish "aces", and in response, the Turks praised the Independent Army.

    http://vzpolitik.ru/blog/43350226195/Ukrayina-i-Turtsiya-–-bratya-navek?utm_camp
    aign = transit & utm_source = main & utm_medium = page_0 & domain = mirtesen.ru & paid = 1 & pad = 1 & m
    id=870BBE591E0624D499C1ED387CBBD1C7
    1. Turbo
      Turbo rabbit 30 November 2015 07: 16 New
      +1
      A cuckoo praises a rooster for praising a cuckoo. This is still Father Krylov wrote.
  12. venaya
    venaya 30 November 2015 07: 13 New
    +1
    So it began, we look forward to continuing. The first pancake is always lumpy, people, out of habit, learn from their mistakes, it is a pity that there are few of them and it is possible that provocations were carried out, this should not be ruled out.
  13. beer-youk
    beer-youk 30 November 2015 07: 17 New
    +3
    It seems that Erdogan is haunted by the title of “The First and the Planet Planet”, so far owned by Poroshenko.
  14. EvgNik
    EvgNik 30 November 2015 07: 17 New
    +9
    Madhouse. The same as in Ukraine. Those who do not even fight, but only by chance reveal Turkey’s ties with terrorists, are accused of terrorism. Collaborators and blatant terrorists - declared fighters against terrorism. Ward № 6.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 30 November 2015 07: 29 New
      0
      Quote: EvgNik
      as in Ukraine.

      Still struggling, or how familiar is "on" or how tolerant is "in" to write? laughing
      PS, by the way, the universal formula turned out laughing
    2. Signore Tomato
      Signore Tomato 30 November 2015 07: 33 New
      +1
      It is no longer surprising - the whole Western world does just that.
      At least look at their reaction.
    3. Pulya
      Pulya 30 November 2015 07: 39 New
      +2
      Who orders the music - he dances ...
      One is host to these countries.
    4. Karlovar
      Karlovar 30 November 2015 13: 18 New
      +1
      The template comes from the same place ....
  15. igorra
    igorra 30 November 2015 07: 19 New
    0
    Let’s see which wick Erdogan put in Putin in Paris. The Svidonism virus is contagious, and that’s Recep’s, worse than Poroshenko.
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 November 2015 07: 34 New
      +3
      Quote: igorra
      Let’s see which wick Erdogan put in Putin in Paris. The Svidonism virus is contagious, and that’s Recep’s, worse than Poroshenko.



      Most likely, Putin will refuse to meet with Erdogan - not gruff.
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2015 07: 32 New
    +4
    Quote: alex-cn
    But it can come to dictatorship ...

    There is almost a dictatorship. But for some reason it seems to me that Erdogan is likely to simply bang. He got many, including the military, with whom it is simply necessary to live peacefully.
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 November 2015 07: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Quote: alex-cn
      But it can come to dictatorship ...

      There is almost a dictatorship. But for some reason it seems to me that Erdogan is likely to simply bang. He got many, including the military, with whom it is simply necessary to live peacefully.



      All of Turkey can become an "Iblis state."
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 30 November 2015 08: 24 New
        +1
        Thanks to Erdogan, Turkey, by all indications, is eager to take the place of Ibliss - after the expulsion of the one who stood up against Allah and seduces people.
  17. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 November 2015 07: 34 New
    +1
    Erdogash wipes behind him. wassat Operation Turkish Cleaner begins to spin its flywheel! fellow
  18. sa-zz
    sa-zz 30 November 2015 07: 37 New
    +2
    So the co-scribe of absolution appeared. Directly according to the script.
  19. BOB044
    BOB044 30 November 2015 07: 41 New
    +1
    Erdogan cleans up after himself. So that no one could prove that he was involved and his entourage. To relations with the IG.
  20. bogdan4ik
    bogdan4ik 30 November 2015 07: 45 New
    +3
    Erdogan acts in a hurry, to this day, he has made many enemies in the most serious parts of society - the security forces. Now he began to kill journalists. Again he began to plant the army. It provokes itself the ninth wave among journalists, military, special services. In addition, the United States is not opposed to push Turkey to the nail with Europe. It may very well happen that a serious confrontation between Erdogan and almost the whole country will flare up in the country. Lukashenko acted and acts in much the same way. Lukashenko also begins to burn the earth under his feet - Russia charged Belarus with money, on Russian TV before the election went (for the first time in history) material that Lukashenko did not fulfill a single electoral promise for the last election and life became much worse in Belarus. In Russia, disloyal leaders learned to merge through the economy.
  21. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 30 November 2015 07: 48 New
    +2
    "How much truth is in the eyes of state whores,
    how much truth is in the hands of retired executioners. "
    Well Shevchuk once sang ...

    Lather the ropes, the Turkish jackals, the polar beast crawled out of the snow hole and comes inevitably.
  22. SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 30 November 2015 07: 52 New
    +2
    Perdogan started the process of reducing the point with a frequency of 50 Hz.
  23. 2014ya.ru
    2014ya.ru 30 November 2015 08: 01 New
    +1
    It seems Erdogan suture is coming. You can’t transfer all the journalists, you won’t shoot the army, the people see everything. And it looks like the situation has been driven into a dead end, and there it is not far from the change of power so that .....!
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 30 November 2015 13: 23 New
      0
      And he will be replaced by Davutoglu, who is even duller than Erdogan, to put it mildly ...
  24. Zolotse
    Zolotse 30 November 2015 08: 03 New
    +3
    Erdogan still gets through, this is a matter of time ... His problems are just beginning. Problems in the country have accumulated. And Russia still didn’t put a hand, (only sanctions begin). Now he spread rot only for revealing his ties with terrorists, only "pulling his mustache" sane military elite, which always had authority in Turkey. The split in Turkish society will only get worse. Inadequate Erdogan will not be able to unite the people.
    1. Serg81
      Serg81 30 November 2015 12: 20 New
      0
      and there are Kurds who, at the very first serious problems in Turkey, can declare independence and open, so to speak, a "second front"
    2. Serg81
      Serg81 30 November 2015 12: 20 New
      0
      and there are Kurds who, at the very first serious problems in Turkey, can declare independence and open, so to speak, a "second front"
  25. samoletil18
    samoletil18 30 November 2015 08: 16 New
    +1
    In Turkey, nullandih did not appear. But the destabilization began in full. Who could it be? Although this issue is not the main one, someone is putting forward Turkish Poroshenko for Erdogan.
  26. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 30 November 2015 08: 21 New
    +1
    Erdogan, under the guise of the United States, the opposition will be extremely difficult to change the regime. It’s necessary to act in a completely different way. In vain they began to convict him of illicit arms trafficking for terrorists. All this had to be dumped during his trial, and not when he was in power.
  27. Belousov
    Belousov 30 November 2015 08: 21 New
    +1
    Well, it’s just so democratic, so democratic, as Assad and Gaddafi never dreamed of, I generally keep quiet about Hussein.
    What these sweeps will lead to is not yet clear. On the one hand, the growth of protest moods in the army and other spheres is possible. On the other hand, if everyone is cleaned up, there will be no one to resent. So let’s see what will happen next.
  28. shinobi
    shinobi 30 November 2015 08: 33 New
    0
    Even Erdogan jerked, in a hurry. No matter how even the hour to Syria was not openly trampled on. Creditors took chtol for a causal place?
  29. Stinger
    Stinger 30 November 2015 08: 41 New
    +2
    The situation is familiar. Recall the fate of A.I. Nikolaev, director of the federal border service, after he stopped the alcohol river by moving the checkpoint on the border with Georgia. For which he was criticized by B. N. Yeltsin (“Nikolaev! How is that, General?”) And, we must pay tribute to the humanism of EBN, was expelled and dismissed from military service. Democratic, without arrest and shooting at the chandelier. And there is weapons and oil. Wild people are these Janissaries.
  30. azesm
    azesm 30 November 2015 08: 46 New
    0
    news from Turetschina http://tr.narodedin.com/
  31. Back in USSR
    Back in USSR 30 November 2015 08: 47 New
    +2
    П
    Turkish resident Erdogan demands that the court recognize the journalists guilty with a life sentence.
    Court and presumption of innocence abolished in Turkey? Will the court pass a guilty verdict a priori? Then this is not a court, but a court ...
  32. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 30 November 2015 08: 58 New
    +1
    Punishment of the innocent, rewarding the uninvited.
  33. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 30 November 2015 09: 03 New
    +2
    Erdogan ordinary dictator. NATO has always claimed to fight dictators, and then a member of NATO and dictatorship. It is interesting how to react to this in Brussels, the question of Turkey’s exclusion from NATO is already in the dark.
  34. afrikanez
    afrikanez 30 November 2015 09: 12 New
    0
    Whatever Erdogan does, it will look like a "last breath". Before death you will not breathe ... dog!
  35. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 30 November 2015 09: 15 New
    +1
    the situation is changing very quickly, even two or three months ago, the majority could not assume that the Turks would hunt and bring down our plane. I really hope that Erdogan and everyone involved in the provocation with the plane will break the ridge
  36. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 November 2015 09: 23 New
    +1
    Apparently the Middle East was designated a victim in the next world war.
    The West is actively trying to warm up the situation to direct armed
    clashes of one state with another.
    France did not succeed in pushing against Syria.
    Russia failed to collide with Turkey.
    CA with Yemen also did not work out very well.
    We are waiting for what else will come up ...
  37. Support
    Support 30 November 2015 09: 25 New
    0
    Ostap suffered ..... he does not understand the foolishness that he most likely makes out people who will give a lot for their country (Turkey) ... whether they are normal or not is another question, but from the point of view of Turkey they are
  38. evil partisan
    evil partisan 30 November 2015 09: 47 New
    +2
    It seems to me that Erdogan and his company are now in such a hysterical period that if they throw some dirt on almost any military leader or commander and political or public figure, this will certainly end in arrests. And this, judging by the story with the lawyer, at least. Maybe you should take advantage of this? repeat You can do good harm to the unity of his party and excite society in the right direction ...
  39. AlexTires
    AlexTires 30 November 2015 09: 52 New
    +3
    Erdogan, apparently, felt that another military coup was possible, and decided to play ahead of the curve.
  40. shura7782
    shura7782 30 November 2015 10: 10 New
    +2
    .... these people "were preparing a coup." No. These are just Turkish Serdyukovs.
  41. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 30 November 2015 10: 22 New
    +1
    An indicative flogging is horror stories for those who are "plotting evil." How can a journalist prepare a coup? Where are human rights activists, international organizations?
    Or vice versa — is it better to hide preparations for a coup?
    The flag in your hands, secret Turkish conspirators! ! !!
  42. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 30 November 2015 10: 33 New
    0
    In any case, everyone is looking for their own benefit. It is time for Rossi to embark on this path, and there is Erdogan and Assad !!! Stop saving the world from penguin democracy.
  43. Serg81
    Serg81 30 November 2015 12: 15 New
    0
    I’m wondering when human rights activists of all stripes will yell at every corner that Erdogan is a tyrant and there is no democracy in Turkey
  44. vladimirw
    vladimirw 30 November 2015 12: 32 New
    0
    Perhaps I exaggerate, but Turkish generals do not like to be arrested. The coup is possible
  45. vovan089
    vovan089 30 November 2015 13: 06 New
    0
    Why be surprised ??? Erdogan and Poroshenko became brothers, and examples are contagious.
  46. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 30 November 2015 16: 32 New
    0
    It seems that the coalition-65 time to bomb Turkey, if they want to fight with IS, there is clearly
    her very nest. And Syria will deal with Iraq themselves, with the help of Russia and Iran.
    PS
    But first let Turkey not be forgotten to expel from the coalition.
  47. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 1 December 2015 22: 02 New
    0
    "Yes, they are the switchmen appointed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Three people, one of whom was a retirement, were preparing a coup! ”We hung a coup on one old colonel ... And nothing ... But three is power! Especially if they are representatives of large clans.