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Russian Defense Minister: the Moscow missile cruiser is ready to destroy any air target that poses a potential danger to our aviation (in Syria)

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During the meeting of the board of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the head of the defense department said that the Fort air defense system on board the Moscow missile cruiser was designed to cover the Russian Hmeimim air base in the Syrian province of Latakia. According to the Minister of Defense, the missile cruiser is in close proximity to the Syrian coast and is “ready to destroy any air target that poses a potential danger to our aviation". Earlier, Sergei Shoigu announced the imminent dispatch of the S-400 Triumph air defense missile system to Syria, which will also cover the Khmeimim air base.


Russian Defense Minister: the Moscow missile cruiser is ready to destroy any air target that poses a potential danger to our aviation (in Syria)


At the same time, the Russian Defense Minister noted that the Russian Federation ceases all contacts along the military line with Turkey, the Air Force of which, while actually aiding the terrorists, shot down the Russian bomber Su-24. The situation with the statements of the Turkish side allegedly that Su-24 was shot down in the airspace of Turkey, commented on the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov (quote RIA News):

The aircraft was shot down in the Syrian sky, which is a violation of international law and an extremely unfriendly act against a military aircraft of the Russian Federation. This is what we proceed from.


Recall that on the eve of the Russian Defense Ministry called the strike by the Turkish Air Force on the Russian plane "unfriendly step." Dmitry Peskov today used the term "extremely unfriendly action." This is hardly the appropriate characteristics of the Turkish attacks on Russia, the VKS of which are fighting international terrorism. In fact, the Turkish strike is, as the deputy chairman of the Italian Senate said earlier, Turkey’s entry into the war on the side of ISIS.
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  1. REXSTORZ
    REXSTORZ 25 November 2015 13: 44
    20
    Well, so it’s necessary, but finally you’ve gotten over and the USA needs to say that they didn’t think to fly to Syria
    1. Finches
      Finches 25 November 2015 13: 48
      51
      Making tough statements is right, but you still need to back them up with relevant deeds! I think that along the perimeter of the border with Turkey there are all sorts of goals of interest to us! Right on the very thread ...
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 25 November 2015 13: 53
        +6
        Quote: Finches
        ... goals of interest to us!
        Not interest, but Danger! hi
        (Sorry, this is not literal digging, it's just more "honest" so that no one would guess, in intelligence, like we are not interested, but it is dangerous laughing !)

        PS: I completely agree with you!
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 25 November 2015 14: 00
          15
          Quote: Finches
          Making tough statements is right, but you need to back them up with appropriate deeds! I think that along the perimeter of the border with Turkey there are all kinds of goals that are of interest to us! Right on the very thread ...

          Now imagine the degree of commotion of ordinary Turkish citizens.

          Yesterday they published in the media the correspondence of people on local social networks, including on TV, they showed, here are just a few (with a translation into Russian), which was remembered:

          - And why it was necessary, Russia did not attack us.
          - Now you have to leave the country, probably, the Russians can declare war at any moment.
          - Shoot down the plane of the second largest nuclear power, they are crazy there.
          - Hoping the US will help us if that.
          - What will Putin say now?
          1. Now we are free
            Now we are free 25 November 2015 14: 15
            +5
            ATTENTION in the photo.
            1. Now we are free
              Now we are free 25 November 2015 14: 23
              +8
              Those same "Moderate rebels" who shot down the pilots of the RF Aerospace Forces who were descending on parachutes. I think now at the Special. services of Syria and the Russian Federation as well as the Russian Aerospace Forces will have much less trouble finding them. Close-up of everyone involved in the background of evidence. Bravo!

              -Yeah, this has never happened in history ...
              -What?
              - And so that eight M would gather in one place at once ...
              (From K / F "Shirley-Myrli").
              1. kit-kat
                kit-kat 25 November 2015 14: 26
                +7
                It is also necessary to get data on the Turkish pilot and his commanders. And then destroy when they do not expect it.
                1. Homo
                  Homo 25 November 2015 17: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: kit-kat
                  We need more data on the Turkish pilot ...

                  Fat minus - the pilot is the executor of the order, oath, charter! Do not smack nonsense! He wasn’t firing at a hospital or a wedding (where one could challenge the order and risk shoulder straps for the sake of honor and conscience).
                2. magician
                  magician 26 November 2015 01: 50
                  0
                  pilot-pilot who issued the criminal order!
                3. magician
                  magician 26 November 2015 01: 50
                  -1
                  pilot-pilot who issued the criminal order!
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 25 November 2015 14: 54
                +8
                Quote: Now we are free
                Those "Moderate rebels"

                About two weeks ago I saw a scarecrow similar to this, a bum
                1. -kuzmich-
                  -kuzmich- 25 November 2015 15: 49
                  0
                  warrior, it’s soul ...
                2. Baloo
                  Baloo 25 November 2015 17: 14
                  +1
                  Alexander Romanov A week or two ago, he saw a scarecrow similar to this, a bum

                  Did you leave a bookmark? wink One must be vigilant why not call the helpline?
                  I’ll venture to suggest: Patlata has problems (diabetes, hypertension, prostatitis, impotence)
                  he is so angry. laughing
                  the most dangerous is in the middle of the frame angry . Along the edges are cowardly, a flash of aggression, then hands to feet or vice versa. Little can be said about the rest. The far left is probably not a Turk or a Syrian.
                  What will experienced and experienced people say? hi
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              3. gergi
                gergi 25 November 2015 17: 40
                0
                Not tenants, sick.
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        2. aktanir
          aktanir 25 November 2015 14: 36
          +9
          It is not necessary to respond to aggression solely with the return launch of missiles and shells. We have the latest electronic warfare equipment, it’s easy to create conditions to the maximum depth of the territory of Turkey under which neither aircraft can take off nor radars can work. Arrange opposition to any technique and communication - and this will be a spectacular concert of the helplessness of the Turks. To all of Europe. The answer must be sure, since Russia may lose credibility in the eyes of the few allies from the CIS countries. At the same time, God bless them with economic measures against Turkey, you can simply cover up tourism, providing conditions for recreation in neighboring Crimea, Cyprus and Israel, and the future gas pipeline. and of course, IT IS INDICATIVE, in front of the Turks, on their border, to continue the methodical and merciless destruction of both Turkoman and the rest of evil spirits.
          1. shifro
            shifro 25 November 2015 14: 50
            +6
            Ours should have done this before. But it turns out that we only say what kind of electronic umbrella we have over the base and that's it! And our planes are shot down and no one is responsible for this. But the Turks had warned before ... So what? Is our SU-24 a bargaining chip in someone's game? Have you played too much? If we are flying, please be so kind to ensure our aircraft are safe. Evil is not enough for our, still "Soviet" commanders.
            1. Sidel45
              Sidel45 25 November 2015 22: 09
              0
              Absolutely agree!!!! The blame for the death of the plane and the person is primarily on the command of the Syrian operation! After the first violation of the Turkish border, Erdogan warned that, if repeated, the violators would go astray, and our commanders, instead of organizing cover for bombers and attack aircraft with fighters, began to send them on a mission not even in pairs, but singly. I am sure that the downed Sushka made a single flight, but for some reason none of our strategists and numerous experts say a word about this ... By the way, the Soviet commanders have absolutely nothing to do with it. At one time they acted well - this is history confirms, but modern ones are more involved in hats, and the loss of the Tu-22M3 in Georgia in 2008, which flew without cover as well, did not teach them anything.
          2. self-propelled
            self-propelled 25 November 2015 16: 17
            +1
            Quote: aktanir
            It is not necessary to respond to aggression solely with the return launch of missiles and shells. We have the latest electronic warfare equipment, it’s easy to create conditions to the maximum depth of the territory of Turkey under which neither aircraft can take off nor radars can work. Arrange opposition to any technique and communication - and this will be a spectacular concert of the helplessness of the Turks. To all of Europe.

            I agree. only it would have to be done yesterday
            The answer must be, as Russia may lose credibility in the eyes of the few allies from the CIS countries

            I hope they will answer (perhaps not so loudly, perhaps "asymmetrically", but they will answer) ...
            At the same time, God bless them with economic measures against Turkey, you can just cover up tourism, providing conditions for recreation in neighboring Crimea, Cyprus and Israel, and the future gas pipeline

            but here I do not agree
            - Russian tour operators will suffer far greater losses from the suspension of the sale of tickets to Turkey than from the “closure” of Egypt as a tourist destination. This is stated in the official press service of the Association of Tour Operators of Russia (ATOR)
            Since November is not a season for Turkey, it is premature to talk about serious losses for business. However, if the conflict worsens and the suspension of sales lasts 2 — 3 months, then the damage to the tourism business will exceed the losses from the ban on flights to Egypt by orders of magnitude, the ATOR statement said.
            Losses of profit from the suspension of the sale of tours to Egypt, Russian tour operators estimated at 1,7 billion rubles
            . Source: LifeNEWS
            - The future gas pipeline (the so-called "Turkish stream") Russia needs no less than Turkey. and it was conceived as an alternative to supplies through Ukraine. At the moment (and in the near future) Nord Stream will not be able to provide the proper volume of contracted gas supplies to Europe. Alas...
            - in the event of further deterioration of relations between Russia and Turkey, the Russian Armed Forces in Syria may experience some supply problems (I do not argue, it is possible to arrange deliveries by air through Iran, Iraq, etc., only this route is much more expensive and problematic)
            and of course, IT IS INDICATIVE, in front of the Turks, on their border, to continue the methodical and merciless destruction of both Turkoman and the rest of evil

            but this is not even discussed. I hope now the supply of "penny" oil from ISIS to Turkey and weapons together with the militants in the other direction will be "somewhat complicated"
            and again I repeat I really want to believe that the GDP will make the Turkish authorities (and all those who "sympathize" with them) regret their deeds. very sorry.
            1. asiat_61
              asiat_61 26 November 2015 04: 47
              0
              We don’t need a Turkish stream for hell. North Stream 1 is 50% loaded, the second stage is under construction. And Germany will refuel gas in Europe. Turkey is now 50% dependent on Russia for gas, so it’s very possible to put pressure on it.
      2. bmv04636
        bmv04636 25 November 2015 14: 00
        +6
        I think there are no hunters to check. And I would mine the entire border with Turkey in this section.
      3. NEXUS
        NEXUS 25 November 2015 14: 00
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        Making tough statements is right, but you still need to back them up with relevant deeds! I think that along the perimeter of the border with Turkey there are all sorts of goals of interest to us! Right on the very thread ...

        I have already said and I will repeat it again ... Our submarines both in the Mediterranean and in the Russian seas can find work. For example, what prevents in the near future from sinking a Turkish tanker somewhere at the exit to the sea, blocking their exit to other vessels? Or fighting swimmers send, or take a torpedo. On the other hand, burn all caravans of fuel trucks and oil refineries controlled by ISIS.
        1. tlauicol
          tlauicol 25 November 2015 14: 03
          +4
          submarines under repair. and sabotage will affect ALL shipping of ALL countries, and not just smuggling
        2. gispanec
          gispanec 25 November 2015 14: 08
          +3
          Quote: NEXUS
          For example, what prevents in the near future from flooding a Turkish tanker somewhere at the exit to the sea, blocking their access to other vessels?

          Well, drowning, why is it not the case, but all the oil refineries and oil refineries need to be destroyed in a week's time / then we’ll look at the igil and the Turks, Erdogan should leave, the Turks should apologize and pay
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 25 November 2015 14: 19
            +5
            Quote: gispanec
            Well, drowning, why is it not the case, but all the oil refineries and oil refineries need to be destroyed in a week's time / then we’ll look at the igil and the Turks, Erdogan should leave, the Turks should apologize and pay

            This is why? Erdogan was given on his wallet by burning caravans of oil tankers from Syria ... so it is necessary to cover not only the initial part of the "tap", but also its output component.
            1. Minstrel
              Minstrel 25 November 2015 18: 02
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              it is necessary to cover not only the initial part of the "tap", but also its output component.

              If you think logically, then - there will be no oil at the inlet of the "tap", and there will be no at the exit.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 25 November 2015 18: 40
                +2
                Quote: Minstrel
                If you think logically, then - there will be no oil at the inlet of the "tap", and there will be no at the exit.

                But do you not consider reserves in Turkey itself? Or do you think that Turkey, as a pipeline, does not linger in it, nor is it mined? wink
      4. i80186
        i80186 25 November 2015 14: 35
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        I think that along the perimeter of the border with Turkey there are all sorts of goals that are of interest to us!

        Buki should be placed on the border. Nakoy on the border 600 km, S-300? They mean that the S-300 is in Latakia - and half of the military airfields will be under fire from the air defense system from the territory of a neighboring state. At the same time, they talk about "any potentially dangerous targets", that is, I did not like how many they take off, or where and how they turned, how fast they climb, and that is a potentially dangerous target. We will have to warn, but the connection with our military is severed, only through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the discrepancy came out. What a slap in the face of Turkey. Feel like a banana republic is called. The world is entering the era of Russian gunboats. winked
        1. i80186
          i80186 25 November 2015 14: 46
          +4
          I just saw it. There is news, just an hour ago, Germany began to withdraw its Patriot from Turkey. He does not want to be substituted. I don’t know if it’s fake. laughing
      5. Rokossovsky
        Rokossovsky 25 November 2015 14: 37
        +6
        Making tough statements is right, but you still need to back them up with appropriate deeds.

        You know, I am more struck by the degree of cynicism of these statements!
        That is, when the British do not let a group of our fat deputies into any meeting in London - these are unfriendly actions!
        Yesterday we shot down our military aircraft, and after that, and over the territory of a sovereign state - our ally! Two of our soldiers were killed! The third glory to God is alive! And this, you will not believe:
        ... is ... an extremely unfriendly act

        Like this! All "partners" are played! Let the relatives of the victims be told about
        extremely unfriendly action
        diplomats x * evy!
    2. Now we are free
      Now we are free 25 November 2015 13: 49
      18
      We are waiting for the bite of the "Turkish fish" in the sky of Syria, the "Moscow" has a long fishing rod ...
      1. Al_oriso
        Al_oriso 25 November 2015 14: 12
        +4
        Oh, how a large "fish" is needed now.
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    4. Ross_ulair
      Ross_ulair 25 November 2015 13: 50
      16
      Quote: REXSTORZ
      Well, so it’s necessary, but finally you’ve gotten over and the USA needs to say that they didn’t think to fly to Syria


      Create a no-fly zone and notify our "partners". Introduce constant fighter patrols of the borders of the no-fly zone and land everyone, without warning and without understanding identification - mattress, Turks, insolent - everyone. The exception for allies is Iran.

      Well, ISIS ground targets in Turkish territory - aviation and calibers.
      To make the earth burn under your feet.

      And everything is within the framework of international law - official Damascus will give the green light to the no-fly zone, and the Turks, with the light hand of the Dark One, rightfully bear the title of "accomplices of terrorism"

      And let them wash angry
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 25 November 2015 14: 03
        +7
        Quote: ROSS_Ulair
        Well, ISIS ground targets in Turkish territory - aviation and calibers.
        To make the earth burn under your feet.

        And everything is within the framework of international law - official Damascus will give the green light to the no-fly zone, and the Turks, with the light hand of the Dark One, rightfully bear the title of "accomplices of terrorism"

        ... the Turks even during the "Chechen wars" were treating wounded militants (in the same b .. b, Antalya!) - their "nurses" freely crossed the border, loaded the 300s and - to Turkey! to correct "weakened health" ...
    5. KAV
      KAV 25 November 2015 13: 50
      +7
      Why still do not cover the sky over Syria? Assad recently made a statement on this subject, quite specific.
      1. berkut9737
        berkut9737 25 November 2015 14: 17
        -8
        Why still do not cover the sky over Syria? Assad recently made a statement on this subject, quite specific.

        Because Putin cannot say yes or no. Chews all the snot in front of the "partners".
    6. prorab_ak
      prorab_ak 25 November 2015 13: 51
      11
      So this is all. It seems that our asymmetric response is being prepared, let’s close the sky, Assad, as a still legitimate president, will be happy to ask us about it, and we will do it with pleasure .... and most importantly, what they gave us this opportunity ... at the cost of the life of our pilot, unfortunately. And now, after yesterday, EVERYONE clearly understands ... ours will shoot. In general, a good tactical move from us. The question is how far will it go?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 25 November 2015 13: 57
        +6
        Quote: prorab_ak
        The question is how far will all this go?

        Here, whose core is stronger.
    7. Scoun
      Scoun 25 November 2015 13: 51
      10
      Quote: REXSTORZ
      Well, so it is necessary

      Russian Defense Minister: the Moscow missile cruiser is ready to destroy any air target that poses a potential danger to our aviation (in Syria)

      Moreover, the target can be destroyed even on the ground and if the military put there the S-400 and even with long-range missiles ...
      There should be S-400, S-300 (Fort) and further "Buki" ..... and ending with "Verbami" and electronic warfare should, if necessary, jam the floor of the Turks ... so that every Turk would understand that Erdogand ** is leading them country to war and devastation.
      Foreign Press Headers

      Le Figaro
      With such allies ...
      November 25 2015 city
      For Francois Hollande, trying to unite international forces within a single coalition, the incident with the downed Russian bomber creates serious difficulties: he needs Turkey and Russia, but it’s hard to imagine the worst allies.

      The New York Times
      Turkey shot down a Russian military aircraft near the Syrian border
      November 25 2015 city
      The incident highlighted the risks posed by Russian and NATO combat aviation in the same theater of operations and weakened the chances of a diplomatic breakthrough in the Syria talks. Sources told about an emergency NATO meeting.

      Financial Times
      ISIS opponents should influence Russia, not isolate it
      November 25 2015 city
      Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, advises NATO "to refrain from overreacting and not treat Russia like an implacable enemy." Turkey, according to Haas, is more a nominal rather than a loyal partner of NATO.

      Day care
      Erdogan's dangerous game
      November 25 2015 city
      Now, after the downed plane, Putin is unlikely to be ready to fight ISIS with NATO, and this is in the hands of the Turkish president. Only the executioners from ISIS will benefit from all this. NATO should not enter into Erdogan’s dangerous game.

      The Times
      Rebels shot down a helicopter trying to save the crew of a Russian plane
      November 25 2015 city
      In photographs published on social networks, you can see a group of enthusiastic rebels of the Free Syrian Army, standing above the body of a Russian pilot, his face is covered in blood. The killing of catapulted pilots is prohibited by international law.

      Most articles on the foreign press that the Turks are not very reliable and that they are sponsors of the war in Syria
      1. ussr1960
        ussr1960 25 November 2015 13: 57
        +4
        Eh, as always, we are always late and in everything, we would have put Moscow there with air defense at once, you look, and the Drying would be safe and the guys were alive. Why in our country everything happens according to the saying - "until the thunder breaks out, the man does not cross himself"?
        1. tlauicol
          tlauicol 25 November 2015 14: 03
          +7
          S-300 is on the cr. Moscow is already 30 years old. Cr. Moscow has been standing near Latakia for a month. And yesterday he stood, and the day before yesterday - and what did we see?

          for October: "The cruiser" Moskva "took under a no-fly umbrella most of Syria and most of northern Israel, including the Golan Heights, as well as southern Turkey, according to Israeli media. Information is confirmed by independent American sites.
          The Russian general, deputy chief of staff, Nikolai Bogdanovsky, accompanied by a large military delegation, arrived in Israel on a two-day visit on Tuesday, October 6, to discuss enhanced coordination between the armed forces of both powers.
          However, Moscow seems to be sending Tel Aviv a completely different message: Friday, October 2, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the deployment of the Russian fleet: the Moscow cruiser, armed with 64 advanced S-300 ship-to-air anti-aircraft missile systems, opposite the Syrian coastal city Latakia.
          Military sources note that Russia, without speaking publicly, has thus created a no-fly zone over most of Syria, most of northern Israel, including the Golan Heights, as well as southern Turkey. Targeting planes based there for air strikes on Syria, Cyprus, British Air Force bases and Jordan. "
          1. ultra
            ultra 25 November 2015 14: 14
            +2
            You are confusing "God's gift with scrambled eggs"! It's one thing "Israeli media and independent sites", and another thing is the head of the Russian military department,
    8. REXSTORZ
      REXSTORZ 25 November 2015 13: 54
      +5
      and the US must say
      you are responsible for those whom you tamed
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 25 November 2015 14: 05
        +6
        Quote: REXSTORZ
        and the US must say
        you are responsible for those whom you tamed

        ... trained!
        And without a trainer's whip - they bite, they even strive to bite ...
    9. obraztsov
      obraztsov 25 November 2015 13: 55
      +6
      Put the S-400 to cover the air base, and then announce that any Turkish aircraft that has committed aggressive anti-Russian actions will never be able to land again.
    10. Nick
      Nick 25 November 2015 13: 56
      +2
      Quote: REXSTORZ
      Well, so it’s necessary, but finally you’ve gotten over and the USA needs to say that they didn’t think to fly to Syria

      Our electronic warfare systems, in principle, can close the sky of Turkey for the flight of Turkish and NATO aircraft.
    11. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 November 2015 14: 05
      13
      Well, the pedergan is only one of the measures, while only one, wait for the bastard to grease the point with the solid.
    12. papas-57
      papas-57 25 November 2015 20: 11
      0
      "Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation: the missile cruiser Moskva is ready to destroy any air target that poses a potential threat to our aviation (in Syria)." What are we standing for, who are we waiting for?
    13. Drmadfisher
      Drmadfisher 26 November 2015 03: 46
      0
      we harness for a long time, but our tanks are fast
  2. venaya
    venaya 25 November 2015 13: 45
    +7
    Here is the answer of a real man, there’s nothing to suck on a snot And some of them were unbelievable, it’s time to fully answer for their actions.
  3. rassom
    rassom 25 November 2015 13: 48
    +6
    get a no-fly zone!
  4. pascal309
    pascal309 25 November 2015 13: 48
    31
    According to Syrian sources, last night (24.11) the Russian air forces delivered massive attacks on the positions of militants (including Turkmens) in the region where the Russian Su-24 was shot down.

    The source said that most likely there was nothing left of the militants who knocked out the Russian Mi-8.

    No detailed information has been received so far.

    Meanwhile, information appeared that the Turks did not take their fighters into the air after most of them were illuminated by Russian radars (S-300 and, according to early reports, possibly S-400). Following a statement by the Russian Ministry of Defense, Turkey fears that their planes may be destroyed when approaching the border.
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 25 November 2015 13: 53
      +8
      Quote: pascal309
      Turkey fears their planes may be destroyed when approaching the border
      - do it right! Introduce a no-fly zone over the southern border of Turkey!
    2. prorab_ak
      prorab_ak 25 November 2015 13: 55
      -4
      Quote: pascal309
      According to Syrian sources, last night (24.11) the Russian air forces delivered massive attacks on the positions of militants (including Turkmens) in the region where the Russian Su-24 was shot down.

      The source said that most likely there was nothing left of the militants who knocked out the Russian Mi-8.

      No detailed information has been received so far.

      Meanwhile, information appeared that the Turks did not take their fighters into the air after most of them were illuminated by Russian radars (S-300 and, according to early reports, possibly S-400). Following a statement by the Russian Ministry of Defense, Turkey fears that their planes may be destroyed when approaching the border.

      Yes, of course, but they don’t seem to have their own missile defense system at the border?)) That’s what they will not fly into Syria now (but the fact that they did it before, no brainer), yes.
      1. prorab_ak
        prorab_ak 25 November 2015 14: 12
        -8
        Here are the dull-headed mincers)) ... we don’t turn on the brain, but we’re hard to press the button ... people clicks, by golly))
    3. Mr. Fun
      Mr. Fun 25 November 2015 14: 36
      +2
      Quote: pascal309
      Meanwhile, information appeared that the Turks did not take their fighters into the air after most of them were illuminated by Russian radars (S-300 and, according to early reports, possibly S-400).

      Eh, they don’t give fools to the poor Turks anymore. Now they will begin to whine that they say it’s illegal, like soooo, you don't have praaaav. Clowns are played out, now you will rake in the full bonus program.
      Quote: pascal309
      Following a statement by the Russian Ministry of Defense, Turkey fears that their planes may be destroyed when approaching the border.

      And there is nothing for them to do there ... And then they went crazy! Either they fly into Syria, or visit Greece and Cyprus. The jokes were over. Now you won't fly at all! And if you do, then with a high degree of probability, for "certain" reasons - not for long ...
  5. kursk87
    kursk87 25 November 2015 13: 48
    11
    Unfortunately today's world respects only brute force.
  6. Terrible_L.
    Terrible_L. 25 November 2015 13: 49
    +5
    There is no need to stop contacts completely, send them to the Air Force base, where the same pair of f16 is assigned, news with a missile from "Moscow"!
  7. Rus2012
    Rus2012 25 November 2015 13: 49
    21
    ... watch Anna News and prepare revenge for the Busurmans!

    On the morning of November 24, over the head of the ANNA NEWS film crew from the territory of Syria and in Syria, the Russian SU-16 was shot down by a Turkish F-24 rocket. The navigator was shot in the air by a pilot withdrawn at night to us. When trying to evacuate pilots from the ground, a helicopter with a group of PSS was shot down.
    Watch how they went to their own.


    According to "Anna-News"
    priority measures:

    First.

    The visa-free regime between Turkey and the Russian Federation will be canceled.

    Second.

    Any Turkish Air Force aircraft attempting to cross the Syrian border will inevitably be shot down, even after it. I think that there should be two or three. For science. They forgot it, but most likely they don’t know how much we regretted them in 45.

    The third.

    Turkish tourist destination will be declared dangerous for tourists from the Russian Federation.

    Fourth.

    Business of Turks in the Russian Federation and associated rich citizens of Azerbaijani origin should become unprofitable and not profitable, enter a period of financial losses.
    It is necessary to carry out a mass sweep of all pro-Turkish public organizations, especially those who nurture Russian Muslims.

    The fifth.

    All help to the Kurds! And not only weapons, but also people and money.

    Sixth!

    Information attack on the patrons of ISIS. The real facts of the participation of countries in supporting terrorists in the land of Syria!
    1. Lord_Sita
      Lord_Sita 25 November 2015 14: 21
      +3
      Well, finally, at least they put it on the shelves normally, otherwise there was a mountain of questions. "Anna-News", thanks!
  8. kugelblitz
    kugelblitz 25 November 2015 13: 50
    +8
    The oslolyubs have played out, waiting for their pilots to fall into the hands of the Kurds and Armenians. Interestingly, they will also defend themselves against catapulted pilots? wassat
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 25 November 2015 13: 58
      +3
      Quote: kugelblitz
      Interestingly, they will also defend themselves against catapulted pilots?

      Yeah, and control defense on earth. wink
  9. SAM 5
    SAM 5 25 November 2015 13: 50
    +9
    extremely unfriendly action against a military aircraft of the Russian Federation.

    Why are they clinging to the word "unfriendly"? Why not openly say "enemy". request
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 25 November 2015 14: 05
      +3
      Quote: SAM 5
      Why not openly say "enemy".

      Have you heard the term "polite people"?
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  10. AlexTires
    AlexTires 25 November 2015 13: 52
    +5
    The establishment of a no-fly zone must be announced officially, with a personal notice of the restrictions and the consequences of not observing them, and this should be done not through military channels, but through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, with the call of the ambassadors of all interested countries ...
  11. atamankko
    atamankko 25 November 2015 13: 52
    +4
    Only the true Minister of Defense and the WARRIOR can say so.
  12. dr. sem
    dr. sem 25 November 2015 13: 53
    +7
    The ice has broken, gentlemen of the jury ... Finally, something intelligible and substantial.
    Now let’s see if the lumps will squeeze the chocks with their Phi Sixteenths or will run up further.
    Knowing the cowardice of chocks (always put on a number, not skill), they are likely to die out for a short while ...
    And, if they start up, BUT THE CHUROK IN THE SYRIAN SKY. All the same, NATO will not get along with them, and the SGA people will "look", that is, the same will not move Erdogashka to help out (they need it?).
  13. marna
    marna 25 November 2015 13: 54
    +3
    So destroy, guys, so that not even one of our hairs fall. With God!
  14. Alksay
    Alksay 25 November 2015 13: 55
    +4
    The Turks should be taxed on all sides, so that they were afraid to raise their heads, and it MANDATORY to close the border tightly so that not only a truck with oil or something else could pass but also pallets from Turkey did not climb into Syria stop am
    There are simply no words, a stab in the back is a pallet.
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 25 November 2015 13: 55
    +3
    Well, all the enemy’s strength, everything is according to the holes, the game has begun, and now bet gentlemen ...
  16. VS
    VS 25 November 2015 13: 56
    +2
    Quote: pascal309
    The source said that most likely there was nothing left of the militants who knocked out the Russian Mi-8.

    it’s not clear what the source is and where the information came from ... but the navigator was saved with the help of special forces of Russia and Iran, it must be assumed that they left this area without fighting ... there was no one to fight with ...
  17. SIT
    SIT 25 November 2015 13: 56
    +5
    With the Turkish pilot and his commander - as with terrorists - to eliminate. By any means
  18. sontinianin
    sontinianin 25 November 2015 13: 57
    +3
    All this, if you look at the story, resembles the Crimean War, where we were alone, and all against us!
  19. sl22277
    sl22277 25 November 2015 13: 57
    +4
    This cannot be left without a tough answer. Otherwise, all sorts of Estonia-Norway will also decide that Russians can be killed with impunity. This fact is regarded as a gross violation of international law with the most serious consequences and a direct violation of the Memorandum of Prevention of Incidents and the Safety of Flights in the Syrian Arab Republic.

  20. gosh 20
    gosh 20 25 November 2015 13: 57
    +1
    and the area where they shot down was cleaned up or not
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 25 November 2015 14: 11
      +1
      It seems like yes.
  21. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 25 November 2015 13: 59
    +2
    By the way, look behind our ships in both eyes there. These pigs can still arrange a provocation in the Navy.
  22. tlauicol
    tlauicol 25 November 2015 13: 59
    +2
    "Moskva" has been covering the zone there for a month now - and ..?
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 25 November 2015 14: 01
      0
      And .... Yesterday we saw.
  23. engineer74
    engineer74 25 November 2015 14: 00
    +3
    “Ready to destroy any air target that poses a potential danger to our aviation”

    It should be understood as follows: anyone approaching the theoretical range of using air-to-air missiles? Is it about 60-100 km? If these are not just words, then the Turks are better off not taking off ...
  24. Engineer
    Engineer 25 November 2015 14: 00
    +9
    Air defense in Latakia could bring down that F-16 without any cruisers, there would be an order, but our politicians lack the spirit. Again, as in Chechnya, our troops are twisting their arms. Yes, the fighting spirit after this will be undermined by our pilots: fly, bombs, risk your life, and if that’s what you are for yourself, and your only salvation is PM, to shoot yourself while flying by parachute, so that the living do not fall into the hands of savages bearded.
    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 25 November 2015 18: 07
      0
      Such decisions are made not by politicians (plural), but by politicians (singular). So about that it should be said: "... but our POLITICIAN lacks the spirit."
      And everyone knows that. And they knew. A bunch of examples have already been gathered. Therefore, yesterday’s idea became possible. But angry statements do not scare them.
      About people in eastern Ukraine, everyone remembers what he said?
      And what came of it in a couple of months.
      And I remember ....
  25. max15243
    max15243 25 November 2015 14: 02
    +5
    A tragic situation, but I have a number of questions for the Russian Defense Ministry in connection with the illiterate organization of the rescue operation. The fact that the Turks would act so treacherously was a surprise to everyone, but it was necessary to prepare for possible operations to rescue pilots of downed planes, there is still war in Syria, and everything happens in war.
  26. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 25 November 2015 14: 05
    +3
    Finally, all fantasies about "friendly countries" are dispelled ... paid only with our lives. The Turks also have ships, they can also blow up somewhere on an old mine ...
  27. dukalis
    dukalis 25 November 2015 14: 06
    -4
    Brothers no-fly zone
    Ok but don't forget
    What a turk on the border
    Patriots (air defense) stand and
    If we introduce that and the answer
    And then there will be terror
    The expanse will be !!!
    1. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 25 November 2015 14: 13
      +6
      ..a patriot, caliber catches? lope right away? .. maybe on the chest
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 25 November 2015 14: 48
      +1
      What’s the point of the KR? Since there is no Turkish air defense. And about 400000 Turks at our base, we can hit them from the rear.
      1. Minstrel
        Minstrel 25 November 2015 18: 13
        0
        Quote: Good AAAH
        And about 400000 Turks at our base

        Where are we going to bury them all? belay
  28. kepmor
    kepmor 25 November 2015 14: 06
    +4
    It is necessary to further destroy oil storage facilities, oil refineries and the entire oil logistics of the Mujahideen.
    Burn everything related to the production and delivery of oil to Turkey.
    The collapse of the oil business of the Erdogan family will be the most tangible blow for these ushlepok.
    Economically, it is necessary to squeeze the Turks out of our market - this is already the concern of the fiscal, however, the government is still silent for some reason. For their "kickbacks" shaking, apparently, cursed liberals! They are waiting, as always, for the GDP to bark at them!
  29. russmensch
    russmensch 25 November 2015 14: 08
    +2
    And the Turks, according to media reports, meanwhile began to pull the aircraft to the border with Syria. And the number of their aircraft is not the smallest. I’m not at all sure that in case of an attack by the Turks from the ground, our air base will withstand the blow. And nothing is heard about the strengthening of the defense. As was the battalion of marines, it remained. I do not understand....
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 25 November 2015 14: 11
      +2
      what is there to understand - we do not have 450 marines
  30. Lord
    Lord 25 November 2015 14: 11
    +3
    or maybe the Kurds throw up a weapon let them tickle the Turks
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 25 November 2015 14: 18
      +1
      are these bad terrorists, and these are good terrorists? Learn from the Americans quickly.
      Are these illegal armed groups ("Samoza po..nok, but this is our po..nok") to which MANPADS should be transferred? Because they are moderate? Freedom fighters ? Where are you guys going?
  31. non-placeholder
    non-placeholder 25 November 2015 14: 14
    -5
    great of course, The magnificent cruiser is the real defense of the aerospace forces, but what about in the event of an incident with the Turkish Air Force and the destruction of a couple of f16, then return to base? or leave the Black Sea Fleet without a flagship?
    Now he urgently needs to be replaced by Peter the Great, who is the drum of the Dardanelles and the Bosphorus. And Moscow to return to the World Cup
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 25 November 2015 14: 22
      -6
      Nuclear-powered ships (anyone) are prohibited from passing through the straits. Yes, and along the coast it will not work. No country in the world will now capture the straits, counting the United States. Not too tough.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 25 November 2015 14: 28
        +3
        Quote: Tlauicol
        No country in the world will now capture the straits, counting the United States. Not too tough.

        Well, why, you can capture just no one will go to a large-scale military conflict
        1. non-placeholder
          non-placeholder 25 November 2015 14: 37
          -3
          if they begin to bring down the Air Force in Turkey, then this is a war, which means the Dardanelles and Bosphorus straits will be closed to our Navy
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 25 November 2015 14: 53
            0
            it all depends on how to bomb, how to start, how to present
            yes this is a war but I said that capture is possible in a war
            just what are the initial conditions, what should be the results
      2. non-placeholder
        non-placeholder 25 November 2015 14: 33
        -1
        Do you think that Turkey will allow Moscow to pass through the straits? They will immediately forget about Montreux, or is the Pentagon’s position on yesterday’s incident not indicative ?. PV went through giblitar more than once, and it has stronger air defense than Moscow
        1. woron333444
          woron333444 25 November 2015 16: 20
          +1
          And as Kuznetsov went to the Northern Fleet, the Turks were afraid to stop.
          1. non-placeholder
            non-placeholder 25 November 2015 17: 32
            0
            so he left, and did not touch anyone
    2. Belousov
      Belousov 25 November 2015 14: 32
      +1
      In the event of an "incident" and the violation of the Montreux convention by the Turks, the cruiser will then calmly return to base on its own. The Strategic Missile Forces have not yet been disbanded. If necessary, spill them. Shoigu will be organized as soon as possible. Since such a booze has already begun, it would be a sin not to take the opportunity and not to pull the straits out of the monkey's paws.
      For the Russian Sea, there is still enough current strength. In addition, if the memory serves, if necessary, the Caspian flotilla can be transferred there through the Volga-Don Canal named after Lenin
    3. Belousov
      Belousov 25 November 2015 14: 32
      0
      In the event of an "incident" and the violation of the Montreux convention by the Turks, the cruiser will then calmly return to base on its own. The Strategic Missile Forces have not yet been disbanded. If necessary, spill them. Shoigu will be organized as soon as possible. Since such a booze has already begun, it would be a sin not to take the opportunity and not to pull the straits out of the monkey's paws.
      For the Russian Sea, there is still enough current strength. In addition, if the memory serves, if necessary, the Caspian flotilla can be transferred there through the Volga-Don Canal named after Lenin
      1. non-placeholder
        non-placeholder 25 November 2015 14: 42
        0
        hmm .. strategist however good
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 November 2015 15: 00
      +2
      Quote: ne_mestofil-ko
      And Moscow to return to the World Cup

      And here is the one who knows more than the General Staff, where now and what is needed.
      1. non-placeholder
        non-placeholder 25 November 2015 15: 26
        -2
        The General Staff is now working for you - Uryakalok. There are a lot of you, therefore you have to please your hearing, and there are enough people like you in the General Staff. I hope sober heads are there too.
  32. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 25 November 2015 14: 14
    +8
    as it was said in one beautiful film made in a once beautiful country: “Here in Berlin, somewhere on the highest surviving wall, I will write with great love:“ I am satisfied with the ruins of the Reichstag. ”
    here, by analogy with the film, the situation with the shot down aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces will be considered exhausted when Erdogan and all his camarillas belittle the Russian Federation for playing back. And before those, the blame for the un revengeful pilot and marine lies, including personally, on Shoigu.
  33. Lord_Sita
    Lord_Sita 25 November 2015 14: 15
    +2
    Less pump and window dressing - more to do!
  34. Hello
    Hello 25 November 2015 14: 16
    +2
    During the meeting of the board of the Russian Defense Ministry, the head of the defense department said that the Fort air defense system, which is on board the Moskva missile cruiser, is designed to cover the Russian Khmeimim airbase in the Syrian province of Latakia. According to the Minister of Defense, the missile cruiser is located in close proximity to the Syrian coast and "is ready to destroy any air target that poses a potential threat to our aviation." Earlier, Sergei Shoigu announced the imminent dispatch of the S-400 Triumph air defense system to Syria, which will also cover the Khmeimim airbase.

    Damn, I don’t understand, but what prevented me from doing this before? That the Russian Defense Ministry did not know that incidents were possible? What was not clear that the base should be covered? It seems that the Papuans came to the resort to shoot. request
    And by the way, the cruiser has been there for a long time and it seems like they even said that he was covering up the golan, what prevented him from shooting down the Turk after an act of aggression?
    1. kill the fascist
      kill the fascist 25 November 2015 14: 45
      0
      this is SCATTERY - until we break our nose to bloody snot and scratch it.
    2. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 25 November 2015 18: 46
      0
      "Ready to destroy any air target, representing a potential danger to our aviation "

      but I don’t understand such a vague wording. it would be more accurate to say any plane that violated the Syrian border. and nothing.
  35. Horly
    Horly 25 November 2015 14: 19
    +7
    I have a question for specialists in naval air defense - at what distance from the coast can the cruiser "Moskva" be deployed? Since I only have an idea of ​​the S-300 air defense systems (PS and PM), which are in service with the air defense forces, I am trying to understand where exactly the air defense zone will be provided, since the "Moscow" is equipped with the "Fort-F" air defense system ... Judging according to the characteristics of the 5V55RM rocket used in "Fort-F" (an analogue of the missile in the S-300PS), the maximum firing range (in terms of performance characteristics, the real one is 10-15% less) is 75 km. That is, being at a certain distance from the coast, this range will be shorter ... Plus the mountainous landscape of Latakia, which makes it difficult to detect and target the missile, also significantly reduces the range ... Thus, we get that cover is provided only in the coastal zone. In this case, "Moskva" provides cover only for its own grouping, well, not for the land area (only directly adjacent to the coast) ... Something like that, if not, then correct it ...
    PS All data on TTX are taken from open sources ...
    1. severyanin
      severyanin 25 November 2015 15: 46
      0
      Quote: Horly
      I have a question for specialists in naval air defense - at what distance from the coast can the cruiser "Moskva" be deployed? Since I only have an idea of ​​the S-300 air defense systems (PS and PM), which are in service with the air defense forces, I am trying to understand where exactly the air defense zone will be provided, since the "Moscow" is equipped with the "Fort-F" air defense system ... Judging according to the characteristics of the 5V55RM rocket used in "Fort-F" (an analogue of the missile in the S-300PS), the maximum firing range (in terms of performance characteristics, the real one is 10-15% less) is 75 km. That is, being at a certain distance from the coast, this range will be shorter ... Plus the mountainous landscape of Latakia, which makes it difficult to detect and target the missile, also significantly reduces the range ... Thus, we get that cover is provided only in the coastal zone. In this case, "Moskva" provides cover only for its own grouping, well, not for the land area (only directly adjacent to the coast) ... Something like that, if not, then correct it ...
      PS All data on TTX are taken from open sources ...

      Yeah, shchazz at the first request all TTX real reveal? fool :))) guess for yourself! A talker find for spy! wassat
  36. Hiw
    Hiw 25 November 2015 14: 19
    +4
    a new concept should be introduced in spite of the requirements of us for the assad, a new trend such as ERDOGAN SHOULD GO, a political settlement and victory over the igil without this will be more time-consuming.

    In view of the fact that the Turks can pull troops to the border with Syria, it would be necessary to increase our missile presence in Syria, additional sunshields, hurricanes, tornadoes, and iskander too, to make a demonstration volley on the igil near the border with Turkey, so that they understand what’s what
  37. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 25 November 2015 14: 21
    +3
    Not one step back, Sergey Kuzhegetovich! good
  38. Smit713
    Smit713 25 November 2015 14: 22
    +4
    We substituted our left cheek when they blew it up on a passenger liner over Sinai, now we turn our right cheek? Oh, you bald cowardly Turks. And over there, that handsome "Erdogan" will now hit the head with a sharpened piece of iron.
  39. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 25 November 2015 14: 22
    +4
    Moskva is ready to destroy any air target that poses a potential threat to our aviation (in Syria)

    no need to declare, need to bring down if the Ottomans at least a meter cross the border
  40. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 25 November 2015 14: 23
    +6
    For the second day now I’ve been waiting for articles about how ours bombed the entire area to the state of the lunar surface, that up to one fuel truck was burned, that our EW funds jam the Turks like burbots. And I can’t wait for anything ...
  41. madmax58
    madmax58 25 November 2015 14: 29
    +3
    to bring down all this terrorist trash without trial and scum, only women and children can kill geeks!
  42. Belousov
    Belousov 25 November 2015 14: 35
    +1
    The cruiser "Moskva" is certainly good, but it is alone. Yes, he is the only warrior in the field, but I ought to send him at least some help. They can arrange a provocation at sea with divers.
  43. ava09
    ava09 25 November 2015 14: 36
    +4
    (C) whose air force, while actually aiding terrorists, was shot down by a Russian Su-24 bomber. (C)

    When will we end the substitution and blurring of meanings? Direct destruction of the Su-24, this is fighting on the side of terrorists, respectively - Terrorism as such. What does "complicity" have to do with it? When they harbor militants, train and treat them, it can still be classified as "aiding," as well as buying oil products from them and supplying weapons. But open fighting for DAESH is terrorism. Or is it "complicity"? And what must be done to become a "terrorist"?
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  45. North
    North 25 November 2015 14: 55
    +3
    "missile cruiser Moskva is ready to destroy any air target"

    waiting for a message

    "missile cruiser" Moskva "destroyed an air target"
  46. Support
    Support 25 November 2015 14: 56
    0
    Send all this Turkish cesspool to HELL. Dives. Together with their lovers of Turkamans. So that even memory is left ....
  47. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 25 November 2015 14: 57
    0
    Excerpts from the Kutlumush manuscript.

    the struggle of the seven powers for Constantinople. Three days of mutual extermination. The victory of the strongest power over the six remaining;
    union of six powers against the winner; new three-day mutual extermination;
    the cessation of hostility by God's intervention in the person of an angel and the transfer of Constantinople to the Hellenes;
    the conversion of the Latins to an intact Orthodox faith;
    the spread of the Orthodox faith from East to West;
    the horror and awe that she inspires the barbarians;
    the removal of the pope from spiritual authority and the establishment of a single Patriarch for the entire European world;

    It seems that we are approaching these times.
  48. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 25 November 2015 15: 10
    0
    Who does not know, the Turkish fleet surpasses the Black Sea Fleet and the Mediterranean squadron by about six times. If anything, "Moscow" will last half a day, some submarines will be 12 pieces. As the development of events shows, the Turks are not afraid, NATO apparently promised to support. For "ours" everything is the other way around, friends-allies have been stupidly lost, and the leadership is afraid of everything.
  49. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 November 2015 15: 15
    0
    Now you can try to fly there ... and let Erdogan his brothers or forest sisters there ... whoever jumps through the forests unshaven will try to protect!
  50. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 25 November 2015 15: 16
    0
    Since they consider themselves "Eastern" people, then we must act "in the Eastern" way with them !!!
    We have Shoigu S.K. - the most eastern person, by the way!)))
    Crush the bastards, not "overestimate" the relationship! Once we "swallow", it will only get worse! Will become impudent with impunity!