Turkish President announces that the country's air force "did not know which country belonged to the military aircraft" attacked on the eve

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Turkish President Erdogan called the Russian bomber Su-24 "unidentified military aircraft that invaded the airspace of the country." At the same time, Erdogan notes that "Turkey did not want such a development of the situation." RIA News quotes a statement from the Turkish president:

We did not want this situation, but everyone should respect Turkey’s right to defend its borders. An unidentified military aircraft invaded our airspace for ten minutes, ten warnings were sent to him, but the breach continued. Strictly within the framework of the rules adopted by us and announced earlier for responding to threats against it, intervention was undertaken.


Turkish President announces that the country's air force "did not know which country belonged to the military aircraft" attacked on the eve


In addition, Erdogan once again expressed criticism of aviation Russian Aerospace Forces participating in the counter-terrorist operation in Syria. According to the Turkish president, Russian planes "strike at Syrian Turkmens, and they are forced to come closer and closer to the Turkish border."

Erdogan states that "Turkey has no hostile intentions towards any country", in this case not specifically mentioning the Russian Federation.

And in the letter of the Turkish Permanent Representative to the UN says that "the Turkish Air Force did not know which country the military aircraft belonged to."

Strange ... American planes do not just invade the Turkish space, but also feel at the rank of owners at Turkish airfields. And every time these aircraft are properly identified by the Turkish Air Force. But the Russian aircraft, which was outside the airspace of Turkey and did not threaten this country, the Turkish Air Force could not identify "." Perhaps, Ankara should start a revision of the training methodology of its flight personnel in view of how, as Ankara herself wants to say to everyone, his crying unprofessionalism ...
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  1. +25
    25 November 2015 06: 35
    Late to make excuses! am
    1. +54
      25 November 2015 06: 40
      Strange excuse. I would also say that "I thought it was an isis bomber"
      1. +6
        25 November 2015 06: 43
        Strange excuse. I would also say that "I thought it was an isis bomber"
        Yeah! or UFO ...
        1. +14
          25 November 2015 06: 48
          Turkish
          the president announced that the country's air force "did not know which country the military aircraft belonged to," attacked the day before

          High-ranking Turkish international raider Erdogan, doing his personal business on stolen Syrian oil, STRUSIL and LIES!
          He is trying to steer away from himself the traces of his personal business responsibility for the use of "his" ISIS gangs in his personal business interests and goals.
          Erodogan on trial!
          1. +1
            25 November 2015 07: 34
            In some ways, he recalled Poroshenko making excuses.
          2. +6
            25 November 2015 07: 58
            Erdogan must leave.
            1. +5
              25 November 2015 08: 14
              Quote: just EXPL
              Erdogan must leave.



              Now she finds out whose plane it was.
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            3. +1
              25 November 2015 11: 12
              Is it enough for our political technologists to organize a color revolution against the dictator and satrap Erd.o. Ganz - zas.r. tsa
            4. +1
              25 November 2015 11: 14
              Erdogan must leave. ,,
              Well, yes, as deep as possible underground.
          3. +4
            25 November 2015 08: 11
            He consulted with NATO and together they gave a cowardly excuse.
            Everyone was scared, including the UN.
            And the Pentagon, most likely, rubs its hands and really hopes for armed conflict.
            And yet: how will Russia respond?
            You have to pay for mistakes; nobody canceled this.
            1. -5
              25 November 2015 11: 14
              It looks like the Russian Federation WILL NOT ANSWER ANYTHING (serious) ...
              Sadly, after all, the Russians really began to consider themselves people on the planet, not the Papuans ...
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        3. +16
          25 November 2015 06: 50
          I agree with the opinion of Baghdasarov: it is necessary to arm the Kurds (about 30 minute)

          1. 0
            25 November 2015 09: 59
            In general, it is strange to arm anyone. The Kurds have revanchist goals, you are sure that after defeating ISIS, they will not stage another war for the "Great Islamic Kurdistan" in Syria and Turkey.
            1. +1
              25 November 2015 11: 22
              But the Turks were seen more than once behind the backs of bandits in the North Caucasus. Let them now feel in their own skin what it is like when there are armed and trained and evil opponents at your side who hate you with all the fibers of the soul.
              I’m not bloodthirsty yes, but in this situation, the Crudes need to provide all possible assistance, to the extent that the Turkish Air Force and Ukrainians were afraid to fly 10 kilometers to the territory controlled by the Kurds
            2. +1
              25 November 2015 12: 21
              Quote: TURAR
              It’s generally strange to arm anyone.

              Agree. But this, unfortunately, is world practice and you will have to play according to general rules. Or we will receive "stabs in the back" from time to time.
              Quote: TURAR
              Kurds have revenge goals

              The Kurds have quite natural goals to gain autonomy, and there is nothing strange in this. And so what they will do with their autonomy, this time will tell. So far, in any case, they are fighting against the Islamists.
              It has long been no secret that under Erdogan the creeping Islamization of Turkey takes place and far from everyone in society is happy with it.
          2. +2
            25 November 2015 10: 40
            Quote: a52333
            I agree with the opinion of Baghdasarov: it is necessary to arm the Kurds (about 30 minute)




            Let the Turks give the pilot and the man who gave the go-ahead to open fire.
        4. +1
          25 November 2015 13: 00
          Quote: Jovanni
          Strange excuse. I would also say that "I thought it was an isis bomber"
          Yeah! or UFO ...

          The Turks claim that the F-16 pilot decided that he had a Syrian plane in front of him. And since when did Syria appear in the SU-24 Air Force?
      2. +7
        25 November 2015 07: 16
        Quote: a52333
        Strange excuse. I would also say that "I thought it was an isis bomber"

        ----------------------
        What do you want from bulk apricot? Friends apparently started, let's do it, look at the reaction of Moscow. Why look at him? Shoot down a couple of Turkish planes in the sky of Greece by the forces of our fleet, let the Turkish abrek think ...
        1. +7
          25 November 2015 07: 38
          Quote: Altona
          Friends apparently started, let's do it, look at the reaction of Moscow.

          Let America lean back as it wants, lie that it has nothing to do with it, but the scenario is Georgian. "You try, and we, if cho, will support." Another check - only now, not by Georgians, but by Turks.
      3. +9
        25 November 2015 07: 33
        Quote: a52333
        Strange excuse. I would also say that "I thought it was an isis bomber"

        An unidentified military aircraft invaded our airspace, within five minutes he received ten warnings, but the violation continued.
        An unidentified plane violated 2,5 kilometers of Turkish airspace for five (!) Minutes? Probably, in fact, the Turks thought that the plane was not Russian. Our planes do not know how to fly.

        But seriously, who can the unidentified fly there? Who can fly there at all? If for a second we assume that the Turks did not want to bring down наш plane, then whose would you like? American? French? There are all "unidentified" at a glance. And among them there is not a single one (until yesterday morning!), Who would like to zhakh about Turkey. Conclusion - they didn’t just bring down the intruder, but specifically waited with good optics (so that in America they could see that the Turks were following orders!) And it was the Russian one.

        It’s a pity that the plane is not a donkey. So that sat down and flew. Otherwise, give the Kurds a squadron of bombers - let the Turks jump there ...
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 10: 04
          Erdogan might not know that the F-16 took off! This could have been a provocation from within Turkey, for example, by bought generals. Until now, I can’t understand what is the point on the part of Turkey to shoot down our plane. Well, they washed oil there, but this is a small fraction of what they’ll lose now. I think Erdogan vryatli would give such an order ... Maybe they have a betrayal there in the upper echelons?
          1. 0
            25 November 2015 11: 18
            Erdogan might not know that the F-16 took off! ,,
            do not be so naive. An ambush was organized, in this area there are flows of intersection of IG oil.
            1. +1
              25 November 2015 11: 32
              I understand the ambush! But relations with Turkey as well as with France at that moment began to improve. And as everything turned out well, for some, France and Turkey have actually, to one degree or another, left our circle of contacts. When the problem with the Georgians was, the Turks unwittingly helped us. But everything is becoming a devil of compromise. I don’t see any motives for Turkey! Oil I think is secondary!
              1. 0
                25 November 2015 12: 37
                Turkey will lose an order of magnitude more from the possible retaliatory (economic) actions of Russia than it benefits from smuggling oil ... Tour operators have already listened to the recommendations of the Russian Foreign Ministry, have stopped selling tours ...
          2. 0
            25 November 2015 12: 32
            I also think that Erdogan himself was framed by political opponents ... Or the Americans paid a thread to the general to give an order, people are not capable of such money ... Or both of them in one bottle ....
          3. +2
            25 November 2015 13: 07
            Quote: TURAR
            Erdogan might not have known that the F-16 had taken off! This could have been a provocation from within Turkey, for example, by bought generals.

            If Erdogan did not know, if the conspiracy of the generals - Erdogan would not report to Ushasty, but to VVP - "I'm sorry, uncle, asshole. on a count! The first thing. And afterwards ... " You look, maybe they would have lowered the brakes. And first of all, he told Ushastom a report, then he apologized to the UN, but did not deign to GDP ... Well, that means he signed his own sentence. Friendship with America is so unpredictable ....
      4. +4
        25 November 2015 09: 47
        A cowardly, greedy and deceitful creature came over from Erdogan. It turns out bearded thugs with AK and video cameras was it clear who was shot down at an altitude of 6 thousand meters, but there are no brave Turkish warriors? Or memory abruptly bounced off? Can you see why they rushed to NATO headquarters? And mind you, no regrets, no condolences, a very revealing way to make mistakes.
    2. mad
      +18
      25 November 2015 06: 40
      Quote: Bayonet
      Late to make excuses!


      Erdogan must leave! ©
      1. +22
        25 November 2015 07: 18
        Quote: mad
        Erdogan must leave!

        -----------------------
        He must die, donkey of Istanbul ...
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 08: 37
          Ooh, the expression has become winged))

          Lance SU Yesterday, 15: 27
          | Russian political scientists believe that Turkey was preparing a provocation with a Russian military aircraft

          Erdogan must leave.
      2. +2
        25 November 2015 10: 07
        Quote: mad
        Erdogan must leave! ©


        This Erdogan will leave - another will come (Davut-oglu). It is necessary to eliminate the cause
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 12: 40
          They will give oglu worse than Erdogan! How can you not be a CIA agent ...
    3. +24
      25 November 2015 06: 42
      Another lie. I suspect that the second pilot died. If he is alive and in captivity his fate is not enviable. These creatures will torture him. Do not forget that the helicopter was also shot down and one Marine died. The General Staff correctly said that they would destroy everything which poses a threat. Yesterday, until I drank half a liter I couldn’t fall asleep. I was worried that with the second pilot
      1. +12
        25 November 2015 06: 48
        Quote: vkl-47
        .the General Staff correctly said that they would destroy everything that poses a threat

        Korotchenko said yesterday that the pilots would answer, and the one who gave the order, no matter who dies somewhere ...
        1. +4
          25 November 2015 07: 02
          Andrey Yuryevich (3)
          and the pilots will answer, and the one who gave the order, no matter who and where, will die ...

          You can be sure! The order was given PERSONALLY by Erdogan!
        2. +2
          25 November 2015 09: 04
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Quote: vkl-47
          .the General Staff correctly said that they would destroy everything that poses a threat

          Korotchenko said yesterday that the pilots would answer, and the one who gave the order, no matter who dies somewhere ...

          Korotchenko is not a character whose words are worth trusting. The country remembers him when he begins to PR at the next tragedy. Statements reflecting the actual actions of Russia will sound after the evacuation of Russians.
          1. +2
            25 November 2015 09: 17
            Quote: avdkrd
            Statements reflecting the actual actions of Russia will sound after the evacuation of Russians.


            I fully support. In another way, we will have a bunch of hostages. People first, then otvetka.
        3. +2
          25 November 2015 09: 16
          All flown Turks in the territory of the SAR are destroyed without warning !! The only way they can be taught are afraid !!!
      2. +3
        25 November 2015 07: 44
        Quote: vkl-47
        the General Staff correctly said that they would destroy everything that poses a threat

        The place where they shot at the pilots and helicopters is to comb the Tu-22. Smoothly, to dust.
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    6. +9
      25 November 2015 06: 47
      But we know to which country the plane that shot down our fighter belonged
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 11: 17
        not a fact, in Turkey there is aviation in other countries. What I will not write, you yourself know
      2. 0
        25 November 2015 11: 17
        not a fact, in Turkey there is aviation in other countries. What I will not write, you yourself know
    7. +5
      25 November 2015 07: 02
      Quote: Bayonet
      Late to make excuses!

      I agree with you, now only an answer, and the cruelest ...
      In general, Erdogan, the last p.a.s.kuda, specifically "lowered" himself in the eyes of normal people.
      If you decide to take such a serious step, then don't run to the "elders" (NATO), keep your face ...
      PS
      Sorry for the pilots, I hope that at least one survived ..... I will pray for them ...
    8. +1
      25 November 2015 07: 07
      Interestingly, if it were French Rafale, would they also be shot down? (sarcasm)
      Erdogan plays for the domestic consumer, plus the puppeteers are happy ... The Ottomans are overwhelmed. How much nuclear power and power is required to turn Turkey into a steampunk style illustration?
    9. +9
      25 November 2015 07: 51
      Quote: Bayonet
      Late to make excuses! am

      The schnick bawled, he knew a lousy hoopoe, such commands only he could give a snot vile, Judas shakes for his Igilovsky business, there will be a business for you, there will be a pig and a FAB in your throat.
    10. +2
      25 November 2015 08: 12
      Here is the pi ... turned on the fool’s gift, mows the jackal under the frame.
    11. +1
      25 November 2015 08: 33
      Quote: Bayonet
      Late to make excuses! am

      hi camerade. "10 warnings were the same !!! We warned in ten languages, including two dead, Maori dialect and sign language !!!" Erdi in Brussels, apparently, hinted that such incidents do not drag on the fifth paragraph of the Charter. Obama, for all his shortcomings, is by no means a hawk and is not going to fight us under any pretext. Erdi did a pretty good job with the alliance.
      1. +1
        25 November 2015 12: 49
        Quote: U-96
        Still, Erdie badly spoiled the alliance.

        Hello! Yes, yes! Not only to the alliance, but above all to the Turks! Someone will lose a lot in the near future and curses will fall on his exuberant head Yes
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 13: 34
          Quote: Bayonet
          Not only to the alliance, but above all to the Turks! Someone will lose a lot in the near future and curses will fall on his exuberant head

          for sure) But, I think, the Turkish pilot holds an absolute world record for speech speed: 10 warnings in 3 seconds! Tina Kandelaki is resting. Let them at least be comforted, 4moshniki ...
    12. -1
      25 November 2015 09: 03
      The bastard turns on the back, we must punish him for this business. In ancient times, his head on a stake near the city would have stood, with the sign "fool who challenged the Russians."
      1. +1
        25 November 2015 10: 14
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        In ancient times, his head on a stake near the city would have stood, with a sign "fool who challenged the Russians."

        when were the Turks' heads planted on stakes "near the city"? Something I have not heard about such cute Russian amusements. Enlighten?
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 15: 11
          Quote: U-96
          when were the Turks' heads planted on stakes "near the city"? Something I have not heard about such cute Russian amusements. Enlighten?


          Well, the most ... when the Mongols .. quite a while laughing
    13. +1
      25 November 2015 10: 00
      The Turks were never distinguished by courage and prudence, distinguished by meanness, cowardice and treachery.
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 12: 49
        In vain, the Seljuks-Ottomans in the middle of the century, the military were excellent ... Otherwise, they would not have such vast conquests and empires ...
    14. +1
      25 November 2015 10: 01
      Quote: Bayonet
      Late to make excuses! am

      Yes, he does not make excuses. He’s lying, as the mattresses taught. It has already been proven that they did not contact the plane, and he did not violate the border.
    15. 0
      25 November 2015 12: 20
      It seems that soon our best air defense crews will go to Syria to "train" Turkish "colleagues" to recognize Russian Sairots. soldier
  2. KOH
    +2
    25 November 2015 06: 35
    Thistle Changeling ...
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 09: 02
      Quote: CON
      Thistle Changeling ...

      smile
      1. KOH
        0
        25 November 2015 09: 23
        Well, I'm generally happy ...))))
  3. +5
    25 November 2015 06: 36
    I hope that ours will show great "respect" to the Turks am
    1. +18
      25 November 2015 06: 39
      According to the Turkish president, Russian planes "strike at the Syrian Turkmen, and they are forced to move closer and closer to the Turkish border."

      It is just necessary to continue the attacks on the moderate terrorist opposition in this area and, most importantly, to bomb Erdogan’s oil business into the ground .... so that he dies.
      1. +3
        25 November 2015 07: 03
        Erdogan is a buyer of Syrian stolen oil. An igil assistant sells it to Europe, which pays money to terrorists for the sake of cheapness. And while this happens, we can’t call Europeans coalition allies. And Erdogan does not think that everything will be forgotten. am
        1. +2
          25 November 2015 07: 52
          Quote: sandrmur76
          Erdogan is a buyer of Syrian stolen oil. An igil ally sells it to Europe, which pays money to terrorists for the sake of cheapness.And while this is happening, we can’t call Europeans coalition allies.

          Normal Western psychology - war - by war, and money - by money. For Europe, oil smells only of money, nothing more. Why go far - we have our own Gazprom. For him, gas smells like dollars. They spit in our eyes, and they gas Ukraine - a contract, dollars, discounts. To deliver gas to Ukraine - Gazprom does not want to lose money - it is more expensive to drive gas to Germany.
      2. Darkoff
        +3
        25 November 2015 07: 13
        In this area there should be a black smoking desert. So that everyone knows what will happen to them if they even touch a Russian citizen with a finger!
      3. +2
        25 November 2015 07: 19
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        It is just necessary to continue the attacks on the moderate terrorist opposition in this area and, most importantly, to bomb Erdogan’s oil business into the ground .... so that he dies.

        ------------------------
        Lionfish and hammering along the Turkish-Syrian border ...
        1. +1
          25 November 2015 09: 25
          Quote: Altona
          Lionfish and hammering along the Turkish-Syrian border ...

          and now the song from the movie "The Adventures of Erdotronic" - "Wing-aye missiles fly, fly, fly ..."
  4. +16
    25 November 2015 06: 36
    Late, Erdogan, late. All you bastard knew. angry
    1. +8
      25 November 2015 06: 40
      Quote: Vladimirets
      . All you bastard knew.

      And the order for the shooting was most likely given personally.
      1. +2
        25 November 2015 06: 48
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the order for the shooting was most likely given personally.

        Such things do not happen without the blessing of a higher person.
        1. +8
          25 November 2015 07: 24
          Raider Erdogan ordered the downing of Russian aircraft in Syria near the border with Turkey.
          He simply REDUCED from the collapse of his personal oil raiding business as a result of the successful efforts of the Russian Air Force to defeat the IGilovsky mercenary gangs controlled by him and tried to save the remnants of what was left of him from his business.
          Erdogan - Turkish international raider-bandit and war criminal!
      2. +2
        25 November 2015 09: 15
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the order for the shooting was most likely given personally.


        And s-ka immediately ran not to us with an apology, but to the NATO accomplices for protection. If the truth did not know, then he would have done the opposite.
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 12: 53
          If I knew, then I would have ground with NATO accomplices in advance, and would not have fled to them in emergency mode, as scalded ....
  5. +3
    25 November 2015 06: 37
    An unidentified military aircraft invaded our airspace, within five minutes he received ten warnings, but the violation continued. Strictly, within the framework of the rules for responding to threats that were adopted and announced earlier by us, intervention was taken against him.


    Why lie then ... the plane crashed on the territory of SYRIA .... you are ERDOGAN ..already a brazen liar.
  6. +8
    25 November 2015 06: 37
    I spit on you Turks! Three times!

    So everyone knows how they are associated with daish. And the whole world was silent in a rag. Even now, after the terrorist attacks in Paris, the French made no complaints against the Turks.
    And now it!

    Russia is in a world full of lies and deceit.
    1. +4
      25 November 2015 06: 43
      According to the channel, the search for the pilot lasted six hours. After that, for two hours, the Syrian security forces led him out of the rear of the rebels. After that, the pilot was taken by air to the Hmeimim base in Latakia, where the Russian air group is based. He is safe now.

      Read more at RBC:
      http://www.rbc.ru/politics/25/11/2015/56551b2f9a79472caccfabe2


      Thank God the co-pilot is alive and safe.
      You can now calmly press with bombs those who shot our pilots in the air.
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 12: 55
        It is necessary to evacuate all Russian tourists first ...
  7. +5
    25 November 2015 06: 37
    It seems that Erdagosha crap one's pants, realized what he had done and what he would receive in response. Our main one seems very, very annoyed !!
    1. 0
      25 November 2015 13: 00
      The answer, most likely, will be in the form of strengthening the press on the Turkoman along the Turkish-Syrian border, intensifying the bombing of the oil production infrastructure of the IG, and some economic actions ... Yes, Russian tourists need to be pulled out of Antalya-Belek before ....
  8. +4
    25 November 2015 06: 38
    Scared. Come on, come on, find out who framed you and why. Apparently the answer from us has already come, but we still do not see it.
  9. +4
    25 November 2015 06: 39
    The excuses went, oh we didn’t know what kind of plane it was, then they would say that they didn’t see anyone at all and shot at an empty place, and there bang and the plane flew by accident.
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 07: 00
      Yes, bl ... be these nerds with fear clicked on the trigger .... by their logic, Russia should have rolled out all the dill for a long time, because some stupid people in the border area of ​​the Russian Federation were hammering, others on BMPs were lost in the territory of the Russian Federation ...
  10. gop
    +10
    25 November 2015 06: 39
    without a smoked owner, it could not have done
  11. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 40
    Find out soon!
  12. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 40
    Smelly two-faced sh.a.k.a.l., we know what you're lying, you will burn with your son in hell!
  13. +2
    25 November 2015 06: 40
    cowardly jackal
  14. +4
    25 November 2015 06: 41
    True followers of modern Western politics. To commit meanness, and then, attracting various international organizations, to build an acquittal line ... Nonsense. Each pilot knows the silhouettes of the aircraft of a potential enemy. It always has been and always will be.
  15. +3
    25 November 2015 06: 42
    Partners in NATO and the European Union threw him (Erdogan), they said sort it out. Here is the tail and tightened, further along Lavrov.
  16. +8
    25 November 2015 06: 42
    And what country in this region may belong to the Su-24 going to the Russian base? belay what fool Better suck than say
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 06: 55
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Better suck than say

      And then he does not know how to suck.
      Hello Ruslan hi
      1. +1
        25 November 2015 06: 58
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And then he does not know how to suck.

        Teach Yes
        Hi drinks Where is this Cosmodrome unfinished? He doesn’t like greetings fool
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 07: 03
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Where is this Cosmodrome unfinished?

          And hell knows, I met him in a personal, Erdogan was not at hand, recouped at the cosmodrome.
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Teach

          Photos, videos do not forget wink
  17. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 42
    Syrian military evacuated the co-pilot of a downed Russian Su-24 bomber !!!
    This was reported on the Lebanese TV channel Al Mayadeen's Facebook page.
    1. +2
      25 November 2015 06: 46
      Quote: MDesant
      Syrian military evacuated the co-pilot of a downed Russian Su-24 bomber !!!
      This was reported on the Lebanese TV channel Al Mayadeen's Facebook page.

      when our Moscow Region announces, then we will rejoice ...
    2. +2
      25 November 2015 06: 47
      There is a link to the video in the next news. I think they really evacuated
  18. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 43
    let him tell his grandmother that Turkey can’t wash off now ...
  19. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 44
    The Turks did not know the belonging of the aircraft? Then we do not know who Erdogan is, declaring this.
  20. +2
    25 November 2015 06: 45
    "The Turkish Air Force did not know which country the military aircraft belonged to."

    Baby talk. What the hell then dunno fired. It comes back to you.
  21. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 45
    Ah Turkish president, in vain you shot at ours. Excuses are weak, they will not work. And the answer will probably be.
  22. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 45
    The main thing is that ours does not give way to this excuse, and then we will be barked. am
  23. +3
    25 November 2015 06: 46
    As Comrade. IV Stalin: "I propose to answer in the same way, let the Turks" violate "the Russian air or sea border ... I think it will be fair, comrades .."
  24. 0
    25 November 2015 06: 47
    For example, if the cruiser Moskva knocks down Turkish planes on the Turkish border, then we can also say so!
  25. +2
    25 November 2015 06: 48
    Good morning. I feel this "unfriendly step" on the part of Turkey as a personal tragedy. I am sure that Russia will find a worthy and adequate response.
  26. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 49
    I think we need to answer so that others would not be disgraced !!! So that when they saw OUR planes, the trigger guns would be wrapped with scotch tape (you never know) and shied away from sin !!
    1. 0
      25 November 2015 13: 07
      Everyone can contribute to the otvetka - we buy tours to Zlata Pyassy and Slynchev Bryag, Rhodes, Kos, to the extreme - to Crimea, Sochi ...
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  28. +2
    25 November 2015 06: 50
    Turkish Air Force did not know which country belonged to the military aircraft

    Excuse is not just cheap, but prepared in advance of the incident. Because in the first minutes in the Turkish media it was reported that an unknown plane was shot down. Now, having received friendly verbal support from NATO, he fluffed up a little tail. True, NATO representatives said that Turkey in this situation acted not as a member of the bloc, but as a sovereign country (also, just in case, hedged). And Chernenko managed to make a statement with the statement that Turkey was entitled to la, la, poplar.
    1. +2
      25 November 2015 07: 46
      Not insured. More like a plum in full. Say, deal with the Russians themselves. And the fact that they did not say against it - did you really think that this option is possible? Not harnessed - and that's fine.
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 08: 16
        It looks like a drain, but not completely. They just want to distance themselves from too acute a situation. The option of condemning NATO to Turkey did not even contemplate. Everything is predictable.
  29. +1
    25 November 2015 06: 50
    Is there such a Russian saying? "Silence is gold." It would be better if he was silent. He began to make notches on his desk, how much he and his gang had left before "demobilization"!
  30. +5
    25 November 2015 06: 50
    Throughout the history of relations, Turkey has been a geopolitical enemy of Russia. Nothing has changed today. The fact that Erdogan begins to bleat about border violations and unknown planes only once again shows that this was done on purpose, and that today (in the recesses of their souls) they understand how they got into trouble. This usually happens when you need to respond to an emergency, but there is no time to think. It seems that in this area our pilots have seriously "stepped on the tail" of Turkey. Obviously, an illegal, but significant oil-money artery was transferred, from which a significant number of people of the first level of government of the Turks and IS were fed, and Turkey decided to impede the work of the VKS by such methods. After that, most likely, our guys will work out the Turkish border with all the proletarian responsibility, as they say, not childishly. And the state machine of Russia will try to inflict tangible economic damage on the Turks in all possible directions. And we have them ...
    1. +3
      25 November 2015 07: 51
      Quote: ARES623
      It seems that in this area our pilots have seriously "stepped on the tail" of Turkey.


      Not so much Turkey as the Erdogans family.

      Quote: ARES623
      Obviously, an illegal, but significant oil-money artery was transferred, from which a significant number of people of the first level of the Turks and IG were fed


      50 000 barrels per day. Even if on the cheap to give, 10 bucks per barrel, then it is half a million dollars a day. Would you stand up? So Erdogans got up.

      Quote: ARES623
      And the state machine of Russia will try to inflict tangible economic damage on the Turks in all possible directions.


      And we also have to help. Let yourself tangerines stuff where they can. And everything else. Resorts ... it's harder, our office plankton, wishing a sagib among the non-commissioned girls for a week in the year, cannot feel anything.

      Right now, sobs will go, as we have expensive, but in Turkey everything is wonderful.
      1. +1
        25 November 2015 08: 16
        but everyone will see how many people we have, to whom on the side everything related to their homeland. such a peculiar opinion poll. and if, unfortunately, there will be many of them, it will be necessary to do something. for example, to cultivate a love of the country in them and strengthen (propaganda with a plus sign) in the media
    2. 0
      25 November 2015 13: 10
      Totally agree with you...
  31. +6
    25 November 2015 06: 51
    An unspoken moratorium on the supply of weapons to Kurds should be lifted. According to the American model: Assad’s troops were supplied, and the containers, panima ash, were blown away by the Kurds. And I don’t believe that any of the Kurds born in the USSR and living on the territory of the Russian Federation would suddenly not want to visit their homeland with a couple of MANPADS, the location of which coincided with the Kurds against уrock.
  32. +3
    25 November 2015 06: 51
    It will be interesting for me to hear the reaction of the leadership of the CSTO member countries to the Turkish attack. For one third of the CSTO presidents, Erdogan, he is a brother and mentor. To whom he covers business and who openly talks with him about joint ownership of the White Sea coast.
    It’s high time for CSTO partners (it’s hard to say otherwise) to clearly determine where their ... vector is directed.
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 06: 57
      Picked up live? So everyone saw and heard it, and therefore announced publicly and requires a reaction! First of all, from a sister, or brother - Belarus. Interesting questions were thrown towards Lukashenko.
      1. +2
        25 November 2015 07: 17
        Quote: VadimSt
        Did you catch Solovyov in the program?

        Are you talking about the next helicopters donated by Russia to the Kyrgyz, which are now in Africa? No, not from there. Yesterday there was a discussion on our local Internet resource "White Sail". At the expense of Turkish treachery, the opinions of people of the most opposite convictions surprisingly converged. There was no talk of Alexander Grigoryevich there this time. I want to quote one comment: Maksat: 24.11.2015/22/07 at XNUMX:XNUMX
        "Turkish leaders and the Turkish embassy never (!) Congratulate Kyrgyzstan on Victory Day."
  33. +2
    25 November 2015 06: 52
    Cowardly scum came up with a more than ridiculous excuse, the word men and Turks are two incompatible things ...
  34. +2
    25 November 2015 06: 57
    Oh shit, oh the blizzard is! At the meeting, NATO expected applause, and widespread support. But something after NATO sang excuses. Apparently there they did not count on such a show off of Turkey.
  35. +3
    25 November 2015 06: 58
    If ours do not answer, it means that different assaults will continue on our country. They will continue to demonstrate contempt for the death of the Russians.
    1. 0
      25 November 2015 13: 15
      Therefore, the answer must necessarily be in different directions, massive, so to speak ...
  36. +1
    25 November 2015 07: 00
    It is necessary to destroy all military facilities in Turkey, it will be a proper punishment!
  37. +1
    25 November 2015 07: 02
    Now Erdogan is waiting for the "arrival" of an unidentified ice ax.
  38. +1
    25 November 2015 07: 03
    Now you dodge like Uh in the pan, jackal! am
  39. +3
    25 November 2015 07: 08
    For the downed SU-24 and the death of the navigator, Russia should be given an adequate answer. Announcement of a no-fly zone throughout Syria.
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  41. +1
    25 November 2015 07: 14
    Erdogan? Is he a hookah smoked? But what about international rules?
  42. +1
    25 November 2015 07: 15
    The Turkish president announced that the country's air force "did not know which country the military aircraft belonged to" that had been attacked the day before.

    STOP LYING!!!!!
  43. +3
    25 November 2015 07: 17
    Dodge, do not dodge, and people died, RUSSIAN MILITIES by the way !!!! At least the airport from which this Turkish plane took off should already be in ruins !!!! This is an adequate answer, I think so
    1. 0
      25 November 2015 13: 17
      It will be a war !!! First, it will be necessary to declare war and recall the ambassadors .... Do you really want this ???
  44. Darkoff
    +1
    25 November 2015 07: 18
    Experts say that the Turkish air defense system is built according to NATO standards, which means that the pilot was given the appropriate instruction.
  45. +4
    25 November 2015 07: 19
    I would be on the spot of our tourists felled from there urgently. The VKS will provide invaluable assistance. And this erdogan is another nosed teddy bear, he borzanul and drilled his drischich, buy a stronger tie, cattle, you won’t squeeze, so you jerk.
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 19
      I think our tourists are in no hurry .. How is it, to spoil your loved ones' vacation? Yes, and the money will disappear! How so?
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 22: 28
        Quote: Karlovar
        I think our tourists are in no hurry .. How is it, to spoil your loved ones' vacation? Yes, and the money will disappear! How so?


        Another western lad - his jeans are closer to the anus. I thought, and I will continue to take it - let the barbarians of Shmaraulov bring down the igil (do not interfere!), Slowly pull the sane from there, let the rest survive as they want, once stubborn. God bablos - this is not our god, sometimes you need to sacrifice something to respect yourself, and the belly will wait.
  46. +3
    25 November 2015 07: 19
    Russia must take tough, adequate measures, for example: completely stop feeding the Turkish treasury with "infusions" at the expense of our tourists, this is a lot. It's time to pay attention to the Kurds, there are about 60 million of them in the region and most of them live on the territory of Turkey, it is necessary to establish contacts with them at all levels (remember the Soviet experience of the late 70s), while, unfortunately, we often only make reciprocal moves, hoping for the decency of their neighbors, and they consider our good-neighborly disposition (towards them) our weakness! Isn't that clear? It is necessary to make it clear to everyone that starting to support the Kurds in the acquisition of statehood by the latter will be only the first step of Russia if “someone” in the region does not understand it, and it is high time to remember the Armenian genocide.
  47. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 20
    Something tells me that soon an arrival of "unidentified" cruise missiles is expected on the territory of Turkey, arriving from ... let's say, the planet Mars.
  48. +1
    25 November 2015 07: 20
    I have repeatedly said which Turks are corrupt, lying creatures negative I hope that the answer will be adequate angry, and not just drown feet. Really sorry for the pilots, even the survivor has zero chances - a witness.
  49. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 22
    Now, Edorgan needs to think about HOW he should apologize to Russia,
    so that Russia does not start action against Turkey.
    After all, it is not necessary to directly hammer Turkey with missiles and bombs.
    You can sensitively infringe on her interests in Russia,
    you can very quickly pace the way Igilovskoye oil.
    I'm not talking about trade and tourism.
    1. +2
      25 November 2015 08: 17
      Quote: Zomanus
      Now Edorgan needs to think HOW he should apologize to Russia.


      That is, are you ready to accept an apology from Turkey and make peace with them? Ask for the opinion of the wives of the deceased pilot and marine, it will be more important than yours.
  50. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 22
    Or maybe there was not a Turk at all at the helm of the plane, but an American, which may well turn out to be.
    1. 0
      25 November 2015 12: 29
      I don’t think that the Americans would be con
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 13: 45
        C'mon, for them this is a common thing. First, Georgia was beaten up to fight against South Ossetia and Abkhazia, awaiting the reaction of the Russian Federation, then in Ukraine the porridge was brewed. And they are overseas, they are excellent.
  51. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 24
    It's time to respond to the Turks and their masters with the same weapons that they so often use for their own purposes. Namely, to organize a color revolution in Turkey for the benefit of enemies and dissatisfied people there, again the Kurds and conflicts with almost all neighbors. As soon as the flame of the revolution flares up, there will be a huge number of people who want to fan it, because Erdogan has bothered many with his policies.
  52. +1
    25 November 2015 07: 28
    “A spontaneous protest is taking place at the Turkish Embassy in Moscow demanding an answer and an apology for the downing of the Russian Su-24m aircraft.
    In addition to local residents, Syrian citizens in Moscow also joined the action.
    In total, more than 600 people gathered at the Turkish Embassy.
  53. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 29
    Fool include "didn't know"
    Erdagan is an absolutely authoritarian, nervous, impulsive person.
    His long battle with cancer certainly left its mark
    on his character. Without his personal order/permission they could not produce
    they couldn’t launch a missile attack on our plane. Stopudovo.
  54. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 32
    It’s not a matter of the professional suitability of the Ottoman pilots, but the fact that they really needed it, so as I understand it, they work in this province only under cover and shoot down everything in sight (there were 253 warnings)
  55. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 35
    My opinion is that this was a special operation (provocation) by the CIA (their style), perhaps not even everyone in the political leadership knew about it. In any case, there must be an answer, one that will be remembered for a long time, but will not lead to a global catastrophe.
    And yet, if we look at the history of relations between Russia and Turkey at least for the period from the 17th century to the 20th, we will see that they were never allies and Turkey always fought against Russia, and the West stood behind it (trained, armed, financed etc.)
  56. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 35
    They didn’t know, therefore. laughing

    And if this plane turned out to be American, what would the know-nothings do? laughing
  57. +1
    25 November 2015 07: 36
    This bastard is lying and knows that he is lying
  58. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 36
    Apparently, during consultations at NATO (immediately after the destruction of the Russian plane), the Turks were told that NATO is NATO, and no one will sign for the Turks against Russia, so the greyhound flew away from official Ankara, baby talk and kindergarten excuses began - because the point began to play from understanding the inevitability of problems and the lack of support from other jackals...
  59. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 36
    Well, at least smear yourself!!! laughing
  60. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 36
    Well, why rattle...? Are they mowing down the Amers? Ours have been flying there for a long time! And not knowing whose plane it is is the height of idiocy! And why the hell was it necessary to shoot him down? As the media write (for that matter), the plane “stuck” only one and a half miles!!! This is about two and a half km! This is the distance for "drying" one "breath fool "What 5 minutes are we talking about? They were waiting for her! Maybe they caught her!
  61. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 40
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Late, Erdogan, late. All you bastard knew. angry

    That makes his statement “yes, I didn’t even know that the Russian Aerospace Forces were flying here” looks even more cynical, he’s making up some kind of bullshit...
  62. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 44
    The same liar as Obama, everyone gave up. And America, as always, betrays those to whom it promised something. Haven’t the Turks already seen how the Americans abandoned Europe, now those who want to enter into a marriage alliance with the Amers should study
  63. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 47
    As for “respecting the right to protect borders”, remind yourself! When the Syrians shot down your Phantom over the sea, a certain country, I remember, with then Prime Minister Erdogan, in June 2012, screamed that “you can’t just shoot down a plane that flew briefly to Latakia!” He just wanted to check the operation of the radars!
  64. 0
    25 November 2015 07: 54
    We must do everything so that Erdogan understands whose plane they shot down...
  65. 0
    25 November 2015 08: 02
    Let's consider Erdogan's statement as a proposal to accept the territory of a very compact residence of Turks into the emerging Mediterranean Federal District of the Russian Federation?
  66. +1
    25 November 2015 08: 12
    What nonsense?!!!
    It was not even worth uttering such insanity. There are no other planes there except ours and Syrian ones. In any case, to identify the aircraft, an approach to the target is performed. Or was the point lost because the plane was still on Syrian territory? The Turks behaved like natural scoundrels. There was no threat to Turkish territory, and in this case an operation is carried out to force the landing or expulsion if the ship is in the country's airspace. Bastards, one word.
  67. 0
    25 November 2015 08: 19
    You will also answer us for Constantinople!
  68. +1
    25 November 2015 08: 20
    They pinched the Turks..., sorry, black business, and immediately received a “civilized” answer from them. Now we need to put pressure on the Turks in full.
  69. +3
    25 November 2015 08: 27
    Sheep lover in power.... A mixture of aggressive populism, thirst for power, meanness and cowardice... Sort of like a Turkish version of Lyashka with presidential powers... I repeat my words from previous posts: Your move, Darkest...
  70. 0
    25 November 2015 08: 35
    Now we need to not value the words of this “ERDOGAD”... let him rush around like a fish in a jar... Now he has become like a used condom... Well, the USA used him in their orgies... filled him up... and thrown away...Ugh!!Ugh!!Ugh!! negative
  71. +1
    25 November 2015 08: 38
    Yes, I want to say - there is no moderate opposition now! There was - and there is no! They just happened to gather in one place and a burning Russian bomber fell on them... Goodbye, moderates... I hope Vladimir Vladimirovich has already expressed his condolences to Erdogan and Obama...
  72. 0
    25 November 2015 08: 49
    What a yap...the SU has a "friend or foe" recognition system, and the F-16 too...what is there not to know?! You need to shoot down something Turkish, and then say: what is this, yours? But we didn’t know, thought it was a draw...
  73. 0
    25 November 2015 08: 53
    Everything is clear with Erdogan, not even a man. But yesterday we were very clearly reminded of two things:
    1. It’s more expensive to negotiate with the West and their sixes - they’ll still cheat
    2. Sloppiness (flying without cover, both SU-24 and Mi-8) is paid for with the blood of our guys
  74. Stepan stepanovich
    -1
    25 November 2015 08: 54
    On Friday, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu announced that Russia's military presence in Syria is justified as long as Moscow is fighting IS. This statement was made simultaneously with Russia’s accusations of striking Turkmen positions in Syria, in connection with which Ankara sent a letter to the UN Security Council, simultaneously summoning Russian Ambassador Andrei Karlov to the Turkish Foreign Ministry for clarification.


    The Turkish General Staff reports:
    A Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down on the morning of November 24 near the Turkish-Syrian border.


    Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said that the country has the right to take any measures to protect its airspace.


    Erdogan: "Let's be frank - the Russians in this zone are not bombing terrorists, but our Turkmens brothers, among whom, perhaps, there are even our relatives."


    Russia responds “hardly”

    Vladimir Putin makes a statement and calls The international community should not deviate from the ideas of fighting terrorism and give an adequate assessment of what happened with the Su-24.


    Peskov apologizes and clarifies...


    It’s funny, but the USA says “fuuuu” to the Turks.

    RIA News
    Erdogan discussed with Obama the incident with the downing of the Russian Su-24
    The American president, in a conversation with the Turkish leader, said that incidents like the incident with the downing of the Russian Su-24 should not be repeated, despite Turkey’s right to defend its sovereignty.


    then

    Turkish President announces that the country's air force "did not know which country belonged to the military aircraft" attacked on the eve


    Oops, was there a mistake?
    Russia and Türkiye brotherhood forever?
    We look forward to continuing our friendship...
  75. 0
    25 November 2015 09: 06
    Since the United States believes that it can arm the opposition in Syria, then why don’t ours start doing the same for the Kurds? Why not opposition to Ankara and Erdogan?
    Next.. Well, I can’t believe that the Turkish pilots, when they went out to intercept our Sushka, did not report to the ground what plane they were seeing. In any case, first the report, and then the actions. Just the wildest excuse of a sick bastard who did something and then doesn’t know how to get out of it...
    I have never flown to Turkey and I don’t plan to, and I command my children to do so. Only on VKS-airlines aircraft.
  76. 0
    25 November 2015 09: 10
    Erdogan's statement is complete heresy.
    1) This morning on RenTV they said that our plane was returning to the airfield, and the Turkish one entered Syrian airspace and fired after the plane leaving for the airfield.
    2) Erdogan is one of the organizers of ISIS, its sponsors and a beneficiary of terrorist activities.
    3) A provocation from Turkey was very likely, after several calls to our ambassador regarding border violations, after Turkey’s statement at the UN. I have a question, why are there no analysts on our General Staff? The military performs its duties in accordance with the regulations, but there must be people who analyze the political situation, who should have foreseen such a provocation; it was very expected, as was the subsequent verbiage of Erdogan, the United States and NATO. I don’t understand why the Moscow Region has billions to support fucking people like Vasilyeva, but there is no money for analysts.
    4) Well, they made statements that there would be consequences for this crime by the Turks and then what? Will anything follow this? Yes, 100% - nothing. Yes, at least they kicked out all Turkish business from Russia - yes, they are building something, but any attraction of labor from outside, purchase of goods (which the country itself is capable of producing) is a withdrawal of finances from the country and damage to the economy (money does not work within the country, but are removed from the economy). Will something be done? Nothing will happen, our corrupt officials won’t allow it - they don’t care about the country, about the death of people, the main thing is to fill their pockets.
    Yesterday my heart bled for our pilots, for the Marines, for the honor of the country that is being spat upon, even when it is trying to crush terrorism. Our elite have been drugged like a potion - they don’t understand that neither the United States nor the West will ever be any partners - they are enemies and Russia’s fate is to live among enemies and there is no reason that anything can change. And enemies should always have a fist in front of their nose, so that they don’t even dare to rock the boat. In order to protect ourselves, it is necessary to remove from the authorities the liberal scum, who for a quarter of a century have faithfully served the enemies of the country, declaring the economic colonization of the country and the betrayal of the interests of Russia as a great democratic value.
  77. 0
    25 November 2015 09: 11
    And for less, wars were started... But if the Striped plane had been shot down, somewhere in Palestine. I am sure that the ever-memorable 6th Fleet would have been cruising nearby long ago and its bombers would have indiscriminately bombarded the Palestinians.
  78. 0
    25 November 2015 09: 31
    Quote: just EXPL
    Erdogan must go.

    I agree, but to the next world. What kind of t.up.x are they holding us to? Don’t hijack whose plane, but if it’s the USA or France. They knew everything perfectly well and, moreover, prepared in advance for this. Now there is only one thing left, weapons for the Kurds, many different ones, MANPADS, so that the Turks don’t bomb them. Israel does not forgive such things and we should not forgive. Erdogan must die.
  79. +1
    25 November 2015 09: 41
    An unidentified military aircraft invaded our airspace, within five minutes he received ten warnings, but the violation continued.

    Are “Turkish pilots” not taught to recognize the silhouettes of foreign aircraft?

    SU-24: maximum speed, km/h: at an altitude of 11000 m - 2320, at sea level - 1400; practical range - 4270 km; combat radius - 560‑1300 km;

    Where will such a plane fly in five minutes? Did Erdogan do poorly at school?
  80. 0
    25 November 2015 09: 48
    “And every time these planes are properly identified by the Turkish Air Force.”


    So NATO members have their own system for identifying friend or foe
  81. 0
    25 November 2015 09: 59
    Some kind of baby talk. Apparently Erdogan is indeed somewhat stupid
  82. +1
    25 November 2015 10: 26
    This “bad man” is dragging the country into the clutches of Islamism.
  83. hartlend
    0
    25 November 2015 10: 53
    NATO refused and left Erdogan alone to sort out this mess. Now such excuses won’t work, you’ll have to pay in full.
  84. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 30
    The President of Turkey is lying. Or he doesn’t see the stars point-blank. All his statements are lies.
  85. +1
    25 November 2015 12: 00
    you need to accidentally drop a bomb on some Turkish base, because... they couldn’t identify it, what if it was an ISIS terror base.
  86. 0
    25 November 2015 12: 18
    Now these hypocritical creatures will sing whatever they want, but the fact is a fact, an act of aggression has been committed against Russia, and in the favorite form of our enemies - stealthily in the back. The answer must be decisive and adequate.
    And our pilots need to remember Kozhedub, it was not for nothing that he shot down 2 Americans in his time. Any aircraft flying into Syrian territory must be shot down without warning.
  87. 0
    25 November 2015 12: 28
    the goat mug has backed down, NATO and the USA are not providing support and will merge this Ottoman, on occasion, once or twice... The bastard chickened out. We need to put the GRU emblem in his window!
  88. 0
    25 November 2015 13: 05
    It's easy to play dumb after consulting with NATO.
  89. 0
    25 November 2015 13: 51
    The Turk bombs his pants. And his NATO friends (read owners) apparently are not eager to sign up for him.
    A good example of why you shouldn’t be a Western Six)
  90. 0
    25 November 2015 17: 43
    he is the president of piz ol