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CyberBerkut: Ukrainian defenders wanted to sell C-125-2D anti-aircraft complexes to the “IG title sponsor”

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Hackers of the CyberBerkut group posted on their website materials indicating that Ukroboronprom was negotiating the delivery of the Pechora-125D C-2-2D to Qatar, reports RIA News.




Negotiations on the sale of complexes to Qatar, which hackers called the "title sponsor of the" Islamic State ", coincided in time with the deployment of the Russian air group in Syria.

In a letter dated September 21, the director of Spetstekhnoeexport (part of Ukroboronprom) Pavel Barbul said that the company "is interested in supplying Qatar anti-aircraft missile systems and does not object to the conclusion of the necessary agreements."

After that, Qatari military visited the exhibition in KievWeapon and security-2015 ”, which ran from 22 to September 27.

The materials also contain a letter from the adviser on trade and economic issues of the diplomatic mission of Ukraine in Qatar, Vladimir Kuruts. In it, the diplomat asks the deputy head of the Polish arms company Level 11, Babitsky, to assist in organizing the delivery of the air defense system to Qatar.

“The question of delivery will be acute. Ours, naturally, cannot solve it themselves. There is an opportunity to earn. Try to talk to the military, ”writes Kurutsa.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 22 November 2015 10: 12 New
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    Everything is under control ... In Georgia, I remember shot down our air defense sold by Ukraine and Israel! Now it will not work ..
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 22 November 2015 10: 14 New
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      It is high time to declare the territory 404 an accomplice of terrorism with all the ensuing consequences for them.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 22 November 2015 11: 16 New
        +8
        Quote: 79807420129
        It is high time to declare the territory 404 an accomplice of terrorism with all the ensuing consequences for them.

        You need to shoot and all things ..! And to declare it is the lot of the West ..... hi
        1. queen
          queen 22 November 2015 11: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Need to shoot and all things

          I don’t think they’ll reach their destination.
          1. MIKHAN
            MIKHAN 22 November 2015 15: 00 New
            +4
            Quote: regin
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Need to shoot and all things

            I don’t think they’ll reach their destination.

            We have a sniper ... I'm talking about it!

        2. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 22 November 2015 19: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: MIKHAN
          Quote: 79807420129
          It is high time to declare the territory 404 an accomplice of terrorism with all the ensuing consequences for them.

          You need to shoot and all things ..! And to declare it is the lot of the West ..... hi


          Are we cultural? Well, in the sense of being polite ... First you need to say "the wave is rolling" and only then shoot.
      2. cniza
        cniza 22 November 2015 12: 00 New
        +9
        Quote: 79807420129
        It is high time to declare the territory 404 an accomplice of terrorism with all the ensuing consequences for them.



        Everything goes to this until the United States gives, but Ukrainians finish out that the United States will bother ... sooner or later they will throw them all the same and substitute them.
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 23 November 2015 08: 10 New
          -1
          Everything goes to this until the United States gives, but Ukrainians finish out that the United States will bother ... sooner or later they will throw them all the same and substitute them.

          So that’s how it is, only in what form will Ukraine be at that time a big question. Moreover, both economically and socially. Islamists can be spoiled by ten or two thousand, and ruin the environment at the end, and much more. And if someone says, “let me not care for Ukrainians,” then he will prove himself to be at least a very stupid person.
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      3. pvv113
        pvv113 22 November 2015 18: 18 New
        +1
        Not only an accomplice - according to certain facts, they can already be included in the list of terrorist organizations
    2. BilliBoms09
      BilliBoms09 22 November 2015 10: 16 New
      10
      Negotiations on the sale of complexes to Qatar, which hackers called the “title sponsor of the Islamic State,” coincided in time with the deployment of a Russian air group in Syria.
      It’s interesting, but ours will answer Qatar if the anti-aircraft missile system turns out to be at the IG? what
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 22 November 2015 10: 19 New
        +6
        Than?? Ourselves sell weapons to Qatar.
        1. alexng
          alexng 22 November 2015 12: 21 New
          +3
          I think after the operation it’s unlikely that Qatar will decide on such deliveries to the ISU, even if FSAkaliya does not dare to do so.
          1. Catafract
            Catafract 22 November 2015 17: 55 New
            +1
            the largest US air force base is located in Qatar, how are they going to storm them, huh?
      2. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 22 November 2015 10: 22 New
        +4
        Quote: BilliBoms09
        It’s interesting, but ours will answer Qatar if the anti-aircraft missile system turns out to be at the IG?

        I think they will shoot there (whoever needs it) from the heart ... The stakes are too high! Do not anger the Russian bear!
    3. milann
      milann 22 November 2015 10: 21 New
      18
      -There is an opportunity to earn,-
      that says it all, here is their essence.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 23 November 2015 19: 19 New
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        Milan

        Here is the essence of ALL.

        Enough to make ukrov special.
    4. Altona
      Altona 22 November 2015 12: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Everything is under control ... In Georgia, I remember shot down our air defense sold by Ukraine and Israel! Now it will not work ..

      ------------------------
      Ukraine is rapidly turning into Somalia with nuclear missile technology and this is very dangerous ... And the fact that the Nazi and the Muslim-radical (abrek) brothers are not a secret forever, they feed with one tit ...
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 22 November 2015 13: 54 New
        +4
        Ukraine is rapidly turning into Somalia with nuclear missile technology and it is very dangerous


        Serious technologies must be seriously serviced, but they themselves have forgotten how. Who will work for them there. Maybe they’ll buy it stupidly, for a pullback from Ukrainians, we’ll be afraid, we will strengthen electronic warfare. request
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 22 November 2015 14: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Altona
        with nuclear missile technology

        You flatter them. All they can do is sell this Soviet backlog. Then everything.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 22 November 2015 15: 50 New
          +2
          Quote: Dart2027
          Quote: Altona
          with nuclear missile technology

          You flatter them. All they can do is sell this Soviet backlog. Then everything.

          Worse .. Jews came to power ... Pumps pump, bastards !!!!! hi
      3. PSih2097
        PSih2097 22 November 2015 21: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: Altona
        Ukraine is rapidly turning into Somalia with nuclear missile technology and it is very dangerous ...

        they are already gone (neither technology. nor personnel. nor equipment), all the normal and sane in the Russian Federation have moved ...
    5. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 22 November 2015 19: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Everything is under control ... In Georgia, I remember shot down our air defense sold by Ukraine and Israel! Now it will not work ..


      It would be more interesting to make it work. There will be a formal reason to bomb Qatar a bit under the pretext of fighting the "SAM for terrorists" ... There are 28 more races from the Caspian Sea and it’s normal, 20 in oil fields, 8 in warehouses with weapons.
    6. Baloo
      Baloo 22 November 2015 20: 47 New
      +1
      With Ukrainian crews
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    8. vodolaz
      vodolaz 23 November 2015 00: 29 New
      +1
      Well, these, as always, in their repertoire. But we now know about it and, in this case, it would not fly Su, but Tu and not KABami, but something else, in the letter X.
  2. Andrea
    Andrea 22 November 2015 10: 12 New
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    What is wrong with the head of Svidomo they have already shown.
    Now they show that the head is only worn.
    Can it really be that the firewood doesn’t miscalculate from time to time? Similar complexes only in Ukraine probably remained.
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 22 November 2015 10: 12 New
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    With such air defense systems it is necessary to sell a set of specialists, this is not MANPADS. And masking them is quite problematic, in addition to PU, also radar, etc. I think such a somersault is unlikely in the context of a possible transfer of ISIS. request
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    2. Bongo
      Bongo 22 November 2015 10: 33 New
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      Quote: Vladimirets
      With such air defense systems it is necessary to sell a set of specialists, this is not MANPADS. And masking them is quite problematic, in addition to PU, also radar, etc. I think such a somersault is unlikely in the context of a possible transfer of ISIS.

      This "Ukrainian" S-125-2D air defense system is a modernized version of the Soviet S-125M1 air defense system which was released more than 30 years ago. In general, the Ukrainian version of the modernization of the S-125-2D air defense system (pictured) is ideologically similar to the Russian project of the Almaz-Antey S-125-2A project (Pechora-2A, firing range - 3,5-28 km, destruction height - 0,02 -20 km), as the modernization is aimed at fundamentally updating the UNV-2 command post and the missile guidance station SNR-125.

      The S-125-2D air defense system is designed to destroy tactical and naval aircraft, as well as air-based cruise missiles operating at low and medium altitudes in passive and active interference day and night. SAM S-125-2D passed the whole range of tests, including live firing. During the modernization of the S-125-M1 air defense system to the C-125-2D level, all the main assets of the complex were refined.

      For IS, it is useless, since it is designed for stationary deployment and providing object-based air defense.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 22 November 2015 10: 41 New
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        Quote: Bongo
        For IS, it is useless, since it is designed for stationary deployment and providing object-based air defense.

        I’m talking about this, it’s impossible to roll him out of the ground suddenly, to grind and hide again.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 22 November 2015 10: 44 New
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          Quote: Vladimirets
          I’m talking about this, it’s impossible to roll him out of the ground suddenly, to grind and hide again.

          So exactly yes Moreover, the S-125 air defense systems captured by Islamists in Libya have been redone for firing at ground targets.
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 22 November 2015 13: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: Bongo
            Yes, yes. Moreover, the S-125 air defense systems captured by the Islamists in Libya were redone for firing at ground targets.

            Sergei! Hi! It would be necessary to equip these kompleks with additional beacons for the drive of anti-radar missiles. To start working when the diesel engines start.
            1. Bongo
              Bongo 22 November 2015 13: 46 New
              +5
              Quote: Amurets
              Sergei! Hi! It would be necessary to equip these kompleks with additional beacons for the drive of anti-radar missiles. To start working when the diesel engines start.


              Hi Nikolay! Duc those C-125 that are converted for firing on the ground generally do not have radar facilities, and they do not need diesel generators. Started with rechargeable batteries. Their accuracy is plus or minus a quarter. In general, weapons from the same series as jihadmobiles.
              1. Amurets
                Amurets 22 November 2015 14: 53 New
                +3
                Quote: Bongo
                Their accuracy is plus or minus a quarter. In general, weapons from the same series as jihadmobiles.

                Then you don’t need batteries either. The starter from the torch will start, and the march from the squib will be erased. I’ll erase it. Joke. But seriously, when trying to use, we know the frequency of the local oscillator oscillators, just clog the SVK channel with interference. Remember how Vietnam used to be the drone recorded the control frequencies of the S-75 SVK. Well, and on the ground, here in white light, like a pretty penny.
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo 22 November 2015 15: 00 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Amurets
                  Do you remember how it was in Vietnam when an American drone recorded the control frequencies of the S-75 ICM. But on the ground, here it’s in white light, like a pretty penny.

                  I don’t remember, you’re an old fighter and you could really fight there, soldier and then I went to kindergarten.
          2. opus
            opus 22 November 2015 18: 07 New
            0
            Quote: Bongo
            Moreover, the S-125 air defense systems captured by Islamists in Libya have been redone for firing at ground targets.

            1. The S-125M1A Pechora-M1A air defense missile system of the Igilov’s “Dawn of Libya” is not completely (only Pu and TZM, and even that there is a damaged and insignificant reserve of missiles).

            It must be perfectly understood that the presence of PU and TZM does not make it possible to establish air defense
            2. Nothing flies over Libya now.
            What is the point in air defense systems?
            3. “Dawn of Libya” has no specialists in air defense.
            Output.
            so that the good does not disappear:

            4. The same thing happened with the air defense system "Square"


            Even the standard 2P25 caterpillar chassis was damaged, therefore, the captured Italian Puma wheeled armored personnel carrier (6x6) is used ./ What is silly, in the center
        2. opus
          opus 22 November 2015 18: 00 New
          +1
          Quote: Vladimirets
          I’m talking about this, it’s impossible to roll him out of the ground suddenly, to grind and hide again.



          Quote: Bongo
          designed for stationary

          1. they did a lot of things, the complex is good



          2.so it was (stationary 5P73-2D)

          In 2015, the leadership of the Ministry of Defense reiterated its readiness to adopt the Pechora-2D.
          "In the current conditions of military aggression, the desire to increase the number of air defense systems as part of the APU to increase the density of the grouping of air defense forces and means to combat low-altitude targets is understandable. At the same time, it is important to understand that in order to solve the problems of air defense in the anti-terrorist operation zone (for some reason, it was just so stated from television channels during the demonstration of the S-125-2D air defense system to political and military leaders) - all components of the S-125-2D air defense system (including the UNV-2D antenna post and 5P73-2D launchers) should be placed on a mobile base. "
          Theoretically (and practically) mobile launchers are not a problem:

          SAM S-125-2 (Pechora -2D)

          3.At the same time, in Ukraine in stock modern air defense systems S-300PT (up to 10), which withdrawn from the Armed Forces and are in storage.

          Also, the stocks of missiles 5V27 to "one hundred and twenty five" on kaklain VERY significant


          Therefore:


          This is serious and perhaps requires an “answer”:
          Personally, I won’t worry if a couple of CRs arrive at the location of the Luch or Aerotechnika-MLT design bureaus (I can even tell you the exact coordinates yes )
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 23 November 2015 06: 29 New
            +3
            Quote: opus
            . they did a lot of things, the complex is good

            Anton, welcome! In general, I agree with everything, except for this:
            Quote: opus
            At the same time, in Ukraine there are modern S-300PT air defense systems (up to 10), which have been removed from the Armed Forces and are being stored.

            It is hardly possible to call the C-80PTs built at the beginning of the 300's modern ones. And these air defense systems can no longer be returned to service due to critical wear and tear and lack of air-conditioned missiles. Otherwise, they would have carried the DB so far.
            1. opus
              opus 23 November 2015 14: 24 New
              +1
              prvt
              Quote: Bongo
              Name built in the early 80's S-300PT

              It was meant,in comparison with SAM S-125.
              This is a literal quote from the Ukrainian whining (Russia deceived them completely)
              Quote: Bongo
              And these air defense systems can no longer be returned to service due to critical wear and tear and lack of air-conditioned missiles.

              1.Well, you can sell ISIS, get cabbage and do not bother further.
              Knowing kaklov and experience in communicating with them for 30 years, I think conscience would not have tormented them
              2. The missiles have run out of guaranteed storage / use.
              But this does not mean that a failure will occur during start-up (this is very rare)
              One appearance of the S-300PT air defense system in Syria by ISIS (or rumors of the appearance) costs MUCH more expensive than the S-300 air defense systems themselves. Americans sssdrissat for sure
              3. I have information that "critically" there is not with SAM, but with equipment.
              Or?
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 23 November 2015 14: 37 New
                +1
                Hi!
                Quote: opus
                Meant, in comparison with S-125 air defense systems.

                Like it or not, the C-125 complex is much simpler and, as I heard, the regulations and the extension of the life of the 5В27 missiles are much easier.
                Quote: opus
                Well, you can sell ISIS, get cabbage and then do not bother.
                Knowing kaklov and experience in communicating with them for 30 years, I think conscience would not have tormented them

                It is unlikely that this is technically possible, and about conscience you obviously got excited ...
                Quote: opus
                The missiles ran out of guaranteed storage / operation.
                But this does not mean that a failure will occur during start-up (this is very rare)

                Unfortunately, more often than I would like. Many of our aircraft, where C-300PS are still available, do not have a full database. I think no need to explain why?
                Quote: opus
                One appearance of the S-300PT air defense system in Syria by ISIS (or rumors of the appearance) costs MUCH more expensive than the S-300 air defense systems themselves. Americans sssdrissat for sure
                3. I have information that "critically" there is not with SAM, but with equipment.
                Or?

                You understand that air defense systems themselves are worth little without means of lighting the air situation and control. In addition, Ukraine was one of the very first C-300PT. which, however, managed to undergo repairs and modernization in the USSR to the level of C-300PT-1. Most Ukrainian air defense systems have fully exhausted their resources, and the newest 5B55RM missiles have been around for 30 years.
                Not so long ago I had a publication about Ukraine’s air defense, if you're interested, take a look.
                1. opus
                  opus 23 November 2015 15: 41 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Like it or not, the C-125 complex is much simpler and, as I heard, the regulations and the extension of the life of the 5В27 missiles are much easier.

                  not.
                  1. In the S-300PT blocks (broken, removed, replaced). In the S-125 is not so
                  2. The input charge from the 301-K mixed fuel is still not the same as on the 5V55K / 5V55R SAM (there is no external charge here).
                  And in TPK 5P86K it is still (moisture, wind, temperature, dust)
                  --------------------------------------
                  I would not play down the danger of disgust from Ukraine

                  During the repair work, the enterprise has developed and used hardware and software repair database for S-Z00PS air defense systems and other specialized software products. The Center’s design and engineering bureau has accumulated a sufficient amount of repair documentation for air defense weapons samples. At the disposal of the enterprise are universal mobile repair and diagnostic modules. The Center employs specialists who have practical and theoretical training in the air defense forces for the repair of S-Z00 air defense systems.

                  After the repair of the components of the anti-aircraft missile system on the basis of the military-industrial enterprises of Ukraine, their integrated assembly takes place for testing and comprehensive tuning at the Ukroboronservis facilities. After testing, the air defense system is transferred to the customer - the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine or to a foreign operator. At the same time, the contractor represented by the State Enterprise "Ukroboronservis" provides technical support and takes part in the controlled operation of the complex with annual monitoring of the technical condition during the five-year post-repair term of the air defense system directly at the locations of these air defense systems.
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo 24 November 2015 07: 09 New
                    +1
                    Quote: opus
                    In С-300ПТ blocks (it broke, took out, replaced). In C-125 not so

                    SAM and zip for the C-125 in Soviet times produced many times more than for the S-300P. Grade roller good , I especially liked the oscilloscopes and frequency meters released by 30 years ago, however, I myself have used these relatively recently.

                    As for Ukraine’s ability to fully repair and modernize, I have big doubts here. Even with our modernization, C-300PT and C-300PS were not frozen, although there are much more possibilities. I watched in 90 how to disassemble the missiles for the C-125. This is much easier and simpler than 5B55P for C-300PS.
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 22 November 2015 10: 43 New
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        Quote: Bongo
        For IS, it is useless, since it is designed for stationary deployment and providing object-based air defense.

        With all due respect, let us leave the question of usefulness not yet resolved. But the question of the readiness of the 404 country to sell these complexes not to anyone, but to Qatar, and it is at the very moment when Russian aviation is working there that it is worth considering.
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 22 November 2015 10: 48 New
          +9
          Quote: novobranets
          But the question of the willingness of the 404 country to sell these complexes not to anyone, but to Qatar, and it is at the very moment when Russian aviation is working there that it is worth considering.

          Russia, like China, also offers weapons to Qatar and Saudi Arabia, including air defense systems. Do not overly ideologize.
          1. PQ-18
            PQ-18 22 November 2015 11: 28 New
            +3
            the Saudis we have already 10 billion dollarstrying to arm themselves ...
        2. alex74nur
          alex74nur 22 November 2015 10: 51 New
          +1
          Yes, but in addition to Russian aviation, so-called aviation also works there. coalitions led by the United States so that to whom the rocket from the air defense system will fly is another question.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 22 November 2015 10: 57 New
            +7
            Quote: alex74nur
            who will fly the missile with an air defense system is another question.

            I am most concerned about our pilots, so the news causes some concern.
        3. gladcu2
          gladcu2 23 November 2015 19: 16 New
          0
          novobranec

          Against Russian technology, these installations are useless. Those in the event of exposure immediately put active interference and the launch control operator does not see the target.

          These installations can lead targets such as the Syrian Mig-21. Syria does not have many of them. So the Ukrainians sucked in the old trash in a new package.

          No need to look for morality.
      3. askort154
        askort154 22 November 2015 11: 50 New
        +3
        Bongo ..... For the IS, it is useless, since it is designed for stationary basing and providing object defense.

        That's the question with that ?! The IG is not just thugs roaming the desert in the Tayotas, but a completely structural formation in the larger territories of Iraq and Syria, with almost all state attributes, and most importantly, ideology and economic structures. So they need stationary air defense systems as air, but to place them where is not a question. And, for sure, there will be specialists in air defense systems instructors among Iraqi officers fighting on the IS side and trained in the USSR, as well as specialists from Ukraine and other former Central Asian republics of the USSR.
        But in general, for your comment, thank you!
      4. Forest
        Forest 22 November 2015 13: 14 New
        0
        Until the first salvo will stand. The main thing for them is to shoot down our plane or helicopter at least 1 to start a tantrum around the world.
      5. opus
        opus 22 November 2015 17: 43 New
        -1
        Quote: Bongo
        For IS, it is useless, since it is designed for stationary deployment and providing object-based air defense.

        why?.
        1. The main money from ISIS (except for sponsorship) is oil rigs and oil smuggling (to Turkey, Iraq, possibly to Israel)


        [center] [img] http://www.nefttrans.ru.images.1c-bitrix-cdn.ru/upload/resize_cache
        /iblock/502/960_700_1/isi.jpg?1422614335225511[/img]

        [/ Center]

        These are the objects that are covered by the air defense system.

        2. SAM S-125-2D, installed where the thread on the border of Turkey-Syria, will fulfill its only but important task:
        will bring down our aircraft or American. At least one.

        It won't be funny anymore

        3. S-125-2D air defense systems installed on the Iraq-Syria border (or at the junction of Iraq-Iran-Turkey)

        With the proper staff, they will be able to intercept KR from the Caspian Sea (and even air-based KR launched over the Caspian
      6. gladcu2
        gladcu2 23 November 2015 19: 08 New
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        Bongo

        I apologize for some doubts.

        You see a white servo control panel on the launcher in the photograph you provided.

        This shield is designed to orient the launcher with control cabins. In modern conditions, the installation is very outdated. Since the launch and guidance guidance of missiles no longer meets the increased modern requirements.

        Although against the Syrian Mig-21, it is still it.

        Pleased Ukrainian enterprise. So to speak, they create competition in the arms market.
    3. donavi49
      donavi49 22 November 2015 11: 08 New
      +7
      Well 125 itself is bulky.

      That Osu may well, especially the Babahs and Osa captured from Assad themselves figured out and shot down 3 aircraft with 6 missiles, and the second was simply not lucky to run into the mine ambush of 0 launches from 6 missiles.

      1. figwam
        figwam 22 November 2015 11: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: donavi49


        That Osu may well, especially the Babahs with Osa captured from Assad themselves figured out and shot down 3 aircraft with 6 missiles.

        We figured it out)))
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 22 November 2015 15: 06 New
          +4
          Quote: figvam
          We figured it out)))

          You don’t have to think that there are only farmers with a beard who can’t read. In Libya, Iraq and other countries of the Middle East, there are many officers trained in the military educational institutions of the USSR, Russia, the USA and Europe. That’s why they can figure it out if they didn’t learn these systems earlier. Cadets from Africa are still studying at the Annunciation FOCU.
  4. ovod84
    ovod84 22 November 2015 10: 12 New
    +6
    It's time to restore order in Qatar. Or arrange a revolution.
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  6. Same lech
    Same lech 22 November 2015 10: 15 New
    +7
    Negotiations on the sale of complexes to Qatar, which hackers called the “title sponsor of the Islamic State,” coincided in time with the deployment of a Russian air group in Syria.



    After such a sale and delivery of these complexes to the QATAR terrorist, unknown aircraft must smear them at the place of arrival.
    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 22 November 2015 21: 02 New
      0
      Quote: The same Lech
      Negotiations on the sale of complexes to Qatar, which hackers called the “title sponsor of the Islamic State,” coincided in time with the deployment of a Russian air group in Syria.



      After such a sale and delivery of these complexes to the QATAR terrorist, unknown aircraft must smear them at the place of arrival.

      And why not at the place of shipment? It’s less politically unprofitable to strike at ukrouludki than at Qatar. Everything was somehow used to their squeals and stinks. We must not allow the transaction by any means, up to the liquidation of the contracting parties. At stake is the life of our pilots.
  7. Appraiser
    Appraiser 22 November 2015 10: 16 New
    10
    Even if they sold, but put into operation, and who will service the S-125-2D? Maybe "Dill"? This complex is not a mortar or a tank, you can launch a rocket with an elastic band on it! Here we need military experts on the S-125, but there are not many of them. Analyzing this article, we cannot exclude the fact that not only S-125 can soar. soldier
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 22 November 2015 10: 23 New
      +3
      Honestly, I did not think that dill remained in good condition with 125. It may well be that this is a resale from countries vd. And the territory of Syria under the supervision of 10 satellites - without a pale to bring and deploy such a system will not work.
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 22 November 2015 11: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: Appraiser
      that not only S-125 can soar.

      Two days ago at 14:08, views: 18199
      On Thursday, the Kuwaiti Ministry of Internal Affairs announced the liquidation of the Islamic State cell, which was engaged in the recruitment of militants, arms trafficking and financial operations of a terrorist organization. In particular, cell leader Osama Hayat admitted that he recently purchased a batch of Chinese FN-6 MANPADS in Ukraine (capable of hitting targets at an altitude of up to 3,8 km), which he transported to Syria via Turkey. The financial part of the transaction was also conducted through a Turkish bank.

      The black market, however.
  8. Turkir
    Turkir 22 November 2015 10: 17 New
    +9
    Quickly found each other. Who would have thought - Qatar and Ukraine!
    Perhaps the common owner brought it together, it could not do without the USA.
    Does the leadership of Ukraine have a hobby for shooting down passenger planes?
    It will cost them dearly. After all, someone, sooner or later, let slip.
  9. Same lech
    Same lech 22 November 2015 10: 20 New
    +8
    Even if they sold, but put into operation, and who will service the S-125-2D? Maybe "Dill"?


    In 2008, in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict, it was the dill that shot down our TU-22.
    This brotherly nation in quotation marks then put us not the first and not the last pig.
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 November 2015 10: 21 New
    +4
    This is aiding terrorism.
    And a direct (if conclusive) threat to our state.
  11. Shilochnik
    Shilochnik 22 November 2015 10: 23 New
    +4
    P
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Everything is under control ... In Georgia, I remember shot down our air defense sold by Ukraine and Israel! Now it will not work ..


    In Georgia, and the calculations were from the repairmen from the base in Balakliya. For Georgians are not genetically predisposed to such a complex technique (like Arabs). When I was a student of the Soviet ZRKU, we had Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Moldavians, and even Uzbeks. There was no Georgian.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 22 November 2015 11: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Shilohilok
      P
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Everything is under control ... In Georgia, I remember shot down our air defense sold by Ukraine and Israel! Now it will not work ..


      In Georgia, and the calculations were from the repairmen from the base in Balakliya. For Georgians are not genetically predisposed to such a complex technique (like Arabs). When I was a student of the Soviet ZRKU, we had Azerbaijanis, Armenians, Moldavians, and even Uzbeks. There was no Georgian.

      The bottom line is that they shot down ... Padlocks!
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 22 November 2015 11: 35 New
        +5
        They will answer for everything .... And that’s it! hi Patience is over with us ...
  12. Dart2027
    Dart2027 22 November 2015 10: 23 New
    +4
    Not surprising. In 2008, Georgia delivered several Buk missile defense systems if they were not mistaken.
    1. PQ-18
      PQ-18 22 November 2015 11: 36 New
      +3
      In 2008, Georgia delivered several Buk missile defense systems if they were not mistaken.

      along with combat crews serving Buki, which brought down our flyers
  13. Valkh
    Valkh 22 November 2015 10: 25 New
    +3
    Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
    Than?? Ourselves sell weapons to Qatar.

    And they will send, then to Qatar CALIBRATED HELLO !!!! laughing
  14. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 November 2015 10: 26 New
    +2
    There will be problems: suppliers and buyers will be punished! Time susyukany passed!
  15. sichevik
    sichevik 22 November 2015 10: 30 New
    +2
    Well, nothing surprising. If necessary, Velikodrevneukropitek will sell his own mother ... And here came up such an opportunity to rude the damned mos-kalyam and even get a penny for it. But it only seems to me that everything is not so simple as they would like. Most likely they are being held in this matter, and not only in this now, under a tight cap. And all their movements are tracked and recorded. And it seems to me that very soon ukrohunte specifically for all the answer to keep.
  16. propolsky
    propolsky 22 November 2015 10: 32 New
    +1
    Is it really impossible to talk with Qatar "heart to heart"? Everyone knows who is crap, but they don’t react. Take the money and the war will end in a week, just catch it on the border with Turkey (one more “brothers” in our system). Togo Qatar, like the floor of the suburbs, and crap.
  17. hartlend
    hartlend 22 November 2015 10: 35 New
    +1
    Ready for anything for the green pieces of paper.
  18. BOB044
    BOB044 22 November 2015 10: 36 New
    +1
    One missile from the supplies of Ukraine falls into our plane, we are the factory to the manufacturer of the missiles. As a gift to our rocket Caliber .. I think it will be honest.
    1. provincial
      provincial 22 November 2015 11: 31 New
      +2
      no, the main bro of Ukraine will not allow.
  19. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 November 2015 10: 40 New
    +1
    But what if Russia crush this whole flock of wolves led by the United States? To do everything necessary to ensure their own and regional security, to punish provocateurs, accomplices and instigators. If this flock starts to disperse, you can turn the entire world "world order" in one day! As they say themselves with bare heels they jumped on a saber, well, they got what they wanted.
  20. doc67
    doc67 22 November 2015 10: 41 New
    +1
    The plane blew up. They are bombed with strategic bombers and fired with cruise missiles. If at least one plane is shot down with Khokhlyat weapons, I have no idea what will begin. Leveling the area, I think, will be with particular pleasure.
  21. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 22 November 2015 10: 41 New
    +1
    It is necessary to track the delivery and intercept or bookmark in time so that it explodes at the start
  22. provincial
    provincial 22 November 2015 10: 48 New
    0
    “Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered to search around the world and destroy all those involved in the terrorist attack that caused the crash of the A321 Airbus in Sinai. The President instructed our special services to take measures to identify everyone involved in the organization of this monstrous terrorist attack, he ordered to search for these people around the world, regardless of geography, without any statute of limitations, and to destroy all these people. ”
  23. company7777
    company7777 22 November 2015 11: 12 New
    +2
    Dill is ready to sell my mother, if only Russia were worse.
  24. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 22 November 2015 11: 20 New
    0
    Ukraine plays an important role in the international arena - it supplies weapons to the Igiloids. laughing

    Amertsy and so do not shine - their weapons fall to ISIS "accidentally". laughing
  25. APASUS
    APASUS 22 November 2015 11: 22 New
    +2
    Actually, it is not CyberBerkut who should make such statements. Maria Zakharova, director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, should warn countries like Qatar and Ukraine not to cross the red line followed by retaliation. Arms deliveries are a personal matter for each country, but supply of terrorists ...........
    1. Felix1
      Felix1 22 November 2015 12: 19 New
      0
      But who is Zakharova in order to give warning to some countries at all, are they freaking out? if so then it should be at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 22 November 2015 15: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Felix1
        But who is Zakharova in order to give warning to some countries at all, are they freaking out? if so then it should be at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

        Hello?
        Maria Vladimirovna Zakharova - Director of the Information and Press Department of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation (official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation)
        ...... what does the Ostankino meat processing plant represent?
  26. atakan
    atakan 22 November 2015 11: 36 New
    0
    gospija, bojemoy, antiquity is what, 40-year-old missile system.
  27. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 22 November 2015 11: 41 New
    +1
    Yeah, "brothers," the path of lack of conscience has led you far ...
  28. mvg
    mvg 22 November 2015 11: 51 New
    0
    Quote: Bongo
    Quote: novobranets
    But the question of the willingness of the 404 country to sell these complexes not to anyone, but to Qatar, and it is at the very moment when Russian aviation is working there that it is worth considering.

    Russia, like China, also offers weapons to Qatar and Saudi Arabia, including air defense systems. Do not overly ideologize.

    It begs: Why not a needy Qatar 30-year-old "dinosaur"? At the same time, has a US base and Patriot on the territory? Or, as a result of hohlomodernizatsii, "sweetie turned out?
    The news is fake, Ukrainians are not suicides .. There is nothing to discuss. Especially sale, from the Kum-swatu series ..
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 22 November 2015 12: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: mvg
      It begs: Why not a needy Qatar 30-year-old "dinosaur"? At the same time, has a US base and Patriot on the territory? Or, as a result of hohlomodernizatsii, "sweetie turned out?
      News - Fake

      And there is yes
  29. iouris
    iouris 22 November 2015 11: 54 New
    +2
    All these revelations no longer make sense. All actions of Kiev means the destruction of the existing regime in Moscow. In Kiev, the US ambassador is in charge. It has long been necessary to close the embassy in connection with the declaration of war and close the valve. Gas may be supplied via the northern route.
  30. shelva
    shelva 22 November 2015 12: 08 New
    +1
    Even the UN Security Council recognized ISIS as terrorists. Ukrainians finish the game.
  31. kasperian_1
    kasperian_1 22 November 2015 12: 46 New
    0
    Khokhlam generally does not matter from whom to receive money
  32. Neophyte
    Neophyte 22 November 2015 13: 04 New
    0
    Bring to the UN Security Council and the "7" countries about Ukraine-aide to ISIS!
    1. Lexeus
      Lexeus 22 November 2015 13: 19 New
      +1
      Yes, she’s not an “accomplice”, she’s just x @ hl so they love money so much that they are ready to sell their mother, it’s not in vain that they have women throughout Europe engaged in prostitution ....
  33. t shurik
    t shurik 22 November 2015 13: 16 New
    0
    it’s time to put an EW system of the LEVER type on our planes, and modify it a bit so that it would not just explode when it’s not flying, but who presses the button laughing
  34. Nymp
    Nymp 22 November 2015 13: 26 New
    0
    Well done guys from CyberBerkut! On their account there are already so many revelations that in a normal, legal society, which Europe considers itself to be, it is time to open criminal cases on the entire Kiev gang.
  35. Petruha
    Petruha 22 November 2015 14: 27 New
    0
    I wonder how old these pechora are! and how Ukraine will carry out pre-sale preparation, they will probably paint, pack, surrender to the Polish mediator and wait for happiness to come in the form of allowing Europe to fight blacks and Arabs for the right to do the dirty work)
  36. Victor-M
    Victor-M 22 November 2015 14: 58 New
    0
    SAM S-125-2D passed the whole range of tests, including live firing

    At the Malaysian Boeing worked.
  37. Fisman
    Fisman 22 November 2015 15: 33 New
    0
    If representatives of Ukraine openly offered assistance to Ishilovites, then why be surprised.
  38. Old26
    Old26 22 November 2015 16: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: BilliBoms09
    It’s interesting, but ours will answer Qatar if the anti-aircraft missile system turns out to be at the IG?

    And how do you imagine this situation? Complex "Pechora" at ISIS ?. Do they have air defense zones, stationary air defense positions?
    This infa for sale is not entirely clear. What for Qatar this complex? The Air Force, which includes the anti-aircraft division, is 1700 people. This anti-aircraft division “Roland” above the roof is enough. And they have so much money that they can buy new things anywhere, and not take outdated complexes from Ukrainians, especially used

    News seems 100% fake
  39. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 22 November 2015 16: 19 New
    +1
    Skakly to whom you want, what you want to sell, believing others for their ideological relatives - Lohlov. If you haven’t sold it yet, it means they just wanted to throw it at the money, but they got it out. In the pig trough did not arrive, then they did not give out from the pigsty. In any case, the equipment of Russian origin, especially the ancient one, has already been "omitted" along the EW line and is ineffective. Not surprising. that ISIS sheep did not agree to pay for scrap. Bandera is generally a prototype of a crook, a homeless person who dreams of marrying a Hollywood star. It seems that everything is there and he writes portraits and letters, and even received $ 20 from her at a charity evening .... But nothing further comes of masturbation over a glossy magazine! Schengen for free Bandera? Gee!
  40. Catafract
    Catafract 22 November 2015 17: 57 New
    -4
    what angry articles about Qatar, is it because of competition? Since the Russian Federation itself supplies weapons to these "terrorists" fellow
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 22 November 2015 18: 05 New
      0
      One more. Where are you taking such ...
  41. T-130
    T-130 22 November 2015 18: 06 New
    0
    Pechora is certainly not a bad complex, but it is already outdated, moreover, it is not mobile, which means that it can be destroyed before anyone discovers! Moreover, it will take less than a year to train specialists, it will take about a year, I doubt that Ukrainians will go to fight in these complexes!
  42. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 22 November 2015 18: 48 New
    0
    It's time for ukrosvoloch seriously take, as for the IG.
  43. Normal ok
    Normal ok 22 November 2015 18: 51 New
    +1
    Another nonsense is this. Purely that there was something to write comments on. In fig, Qatar is such a junk when their dough heaps. Only last year, they bought from the states 10 Patriot SAMs.
  44. Baloo
    Baloo 22 November 2015 20: 49 New
    0
    Qatar does not need these air defense systems; there is a solid American military base there. So send ISIS. This can happen as with the Ukrainian crews.
  45. Pak_c_TonopoM
    Pak_c_TonopoM 23 November 2015 02: 15 New
    0
    Well and nonsense. Now knowing this, if these complexes appear in the IG, we can safely enter Qatar and Ukraine into the list of accomplices of terrorism.
  46. Wolka
    Wolka 23 November 2015 07: 33 New
    0
    as elsewhere and in Qatar, in particular, our specialists work, everything is monitored and verified, no one would ever have started an operation in Syria without appropriate special escort and training, the Arab monarchies, including Qatar, will still have their own ...