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Burning out the target: the development of high-energy lasers

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Since the technology is still developing, we still do not know how powerful lasers will be, whether they can do all that they promise.


Threats like missiles, artillery, mortars and UAVs, as well as guided weapons move the development of laser defense systems weapons and directed energy forward. It is hoped that they will become highly effective and inexpensive countermeasures, the most promising advances in military technology. Recent technological breakthroughs have made these systems more accessible to military people from different countries.

High-energy lasers (VELs) have long been an integral part of science fiction before the first working laser in the 1960 year was invented, and now they find numerous real applications in various industries, science, engineering, medicine and others. At the end of the 80 of the last century, during the reign of the Reagan administration, United States spending on research in the field of laser weapons, more specifically on the so-called Strategic Defense Initiative (SOI), reached 2,4 a billion dollars, but in the next decade declined sharply. However, in this century VEL demonstrate significant progress, they are becoming an easy and effective technology for military of different countries, who see good prospects in the field of defense of troops, especially protection of advanced operational bases, air bases and other military facilities from missiles, artillery, mortars and drones. Modern commercial and military mini-UAVs are a threat that is very difficult to fight with conventional defensive weapon systems. On the other hand, it is also necessary to protect our UAVs, take at least Iran’s statement in 2011 that it hit the drone RQ-170 SENTINEL.

Speed, accuracy, time

Unlike traditional rockets flying at subsonic or supersonic speeds, VEL deliver energy at the speed of light - 299338 km / s. Compare with the speed of flight of the most high-speed hypersonic rockets - approximately 6115 km / h. In order to “evaporate” the target, the laser system must be powerful enough, it must be able to focus its energy on a small spot on the object for a certain time in order to heat it and further destroy or disable it, while it must accompany several targets at once. . It is advisable to perform this entire process with a compact, portable system designed for operation on the battlefield. The mass, dimensions and power consumption of such a system must be such that it can be installed not only on the vehicle, but also, as in the case of the RPG, to fire from it from the shoulder.

A powerful combat laser must be strong enough and reliable to work in adverse environmental conditions and at the same time remain quite effective. Laser optics must withstand shocks and radiation intensity (radiation flux received by the surface per unit area), and the system must be safer than even the safest chemical VALs.

American achievements

The US Army is the main end-user of VAL and much in this area was created in the US defense laboratories. Among the many promising developments of VEL are free-electron lasers, commercial fiber lasers, diode-pumped solid-state lasers, and liquid lasers. They represent the leading edge of high-tech research and development in the defense sector.

Boeing has developed a solid-state laser for the American army. The HEL MD (High Energy Laser Mobile Demonstrator) mobile high-definition laser demonstration kit installed on tactical machines is designed to track and destroy missiles, mines, projectile and ground launch drones. It was first tested in November 2013; then HEL MD successfully destroyed or destroyed more than 70 attacking mortars and several UAVs.

This system uses a commercial solid-state infrared laser with a power of 10 kW, operating at a wavelength of 1 microns (most high-power lasers operate in the invisible IR spectral region). The laser machine and the beam control system are mounted on the chassis of the truck, which has been adapted for the transport of equipment and the cooling system. In an adaptive (self-adjusting) optical system, mirrors, optical sensors and powerful processors are used, which allow you to quickly form, direct and focus the beam exactly on the target.

And all this in real time; the laser machine has only a few seconds to use for the entire process, since some targets, such as mines, have a relatively short flight time.

Burning out the target: the development of high-energy lasers

In 2011, BAE Systems received a contract worth 2,8 million dollars from the US Navy to demonstrate the Tactical Laser System (TLS) tactical laser system, which can be integrated into existing ship installations

High performance in all conditions

When directed to moving targets, the VEL will have to cope with the turbulence of airflow, dust and humidity. The movement of the platform and the distortion of the laser beam caused by weather and other external conditions, from the very beginning of the development were the most serious problems. Small-sized UAVs are difficult to detect and, therefore, difficult to intercept, especially in difficult and changing external conditions.

Boeing successfully tested its HEL MD installation at the White Sands site in 2013, in hot and dry conditions with turbulence of the finest dust, and in September, 2014 conducted another test at Eglin airbase, but in opposite conditions, surrounded by swamps and at high humidity. During the hurricane storm and lightning strikes, the HEL MD system installed on the Oshkosh military truck was able to track and hit several 60-mm mines and UAVs over a distance of 5 kilometers. The director of directional energy systems at Boeing said that “given the windy, rainy and foggy weather in Florida, these firing at the steel were the most difficult challenge to install HEL MD with a 10 kW laser.” However, for successful work in conditions of high clouds and fog, it is necessary to further increase the power of the VAL.

In the future, Boeing should install a laser with 50 or 60 kW in the HEL MD system. The own-designed 50 kW and 100 kW lasers installed on the latest versions of the HEL MD system will increase the effective range of the laser, as well as reduce the time to hit the target. Lasers are also well suited for neutralizing UAVs with optical sensors used as reconnaissance and observation platforms. A laser beam with the minimum required power, aimed at camera lenses and sensors, can blind them at long distances.

Ship installations

The prototype of laser weapons for the US Navy is seen as an extremely necessary means of dealing with growing threats at sea - unmanned and light aircraft, as well as small-sized combat boats. After many years of development, in 2009 a major technological breakthrough was made when at sea the American LaWS (Laser Weapon System) laser system fleet UAV was first captured for escort and destroyed. The Naval Research Directorate (NRU) developed this directed energy system with the Naval Systems Command, the Naval Research Laboratory, the Naval Surface Weapons Development Center in Dahlgren and Kratos Defense & Security Solutions. Two major demonstrations took place in 2011, when a laser destroyed several small boats from a destroyer, and during 2012 trials, a LaWS launcher shot down several unmanned aerial vehicles.

For tests in the Persian Gulf, which took place in the middle of 2014, an improved version of the LaWS, upgraded as part of the NRU program, was installed on the PONCE landing ship of the US Navy. These successful tests allowed the fleet to continue work on laser weapons. The system consists of six commercial fiber lasers and a single monitoring and control console, behind which an officer of surface fighting sits. In order to disable or destroy the target, the officer directs and switches on the laser using a controller similar to a controller for video games.

NRU Navy also heads the program for solid-state laser SSL-TM (Solid-State Laser-Technology Maturation). Together with Northrop Grumman, BAE Systems and Raytheon, we are developing prototypes of ready-to-fight and low-cost LaWS systems for missile destroyers and coastal warships to be manufactured in 2016. In February, 2015, the company also won an American fleet contract worth 29,5 million dollars to manufacture a prototype HP BCSS (High Power Beam Control Subsystem) beam control subsystem compatible with VAL.

In June, the US Navy 2015 expressed an intention to equip their new aircraft carriers of the GERALD R. class FORD less expensive than the existing shipboard air defense missiles (for example, ESSM [Evolved SEA SPARROW Missile] and RAM [Rolling Airframe Missile]) with laser armament 13800 total voltage volts, which is 300% more power generation for NIMITZ class ships. The current laser technology requires a large amount of electricity on board, they are cumbersome, but progress does not stand still, there are smaller systems with less power consumption.


A four-channel mirror optics with high sensitivity is used to track targets and set up a laser beam in MBDA's high-energy laser.

Less than 10 dollars per shot

The main advantage of VAL compared with traditional kinetic weapons is its cost. While the development of VEL costs millions, after the introduction of these systems into service, they have low operating costs compared to traditional ballistic and guided munitions. To knock down a UAV, installing a VEL requires diesel on 1-5 dollars, while a rocket costs 100000 dollars and more. According to the head of the directional energy systems at Boeing, “an inexpensive rocket costs one hundred thousand and that’s one launch. A one-time aiming laser gun costs less than 10 dollars. ”
Lasers can also significantly increase the defensive capabilities of surface ships through an almost unlimited store, since the number of traditional combat vehicles on these ships is limited.

Fiber forward

Fiber lasers, which for Western countries are mainly developed by IPG Photonics, currently consume kilowatts, which is significantly less than megawatt devices that were once intended for SDI. Lasers of this type are smaller, they also need less energy to maintain the characteristics of the beam. Although fuel-powered laser systems can perform their tasks and cause necessary damage, they consume a tremendous amount of energy and are too cumbersome to install on an aircraft or vehicle. Chemical lasers are efficient and do not need electrical energy, but they are almost as cumbersome as fuel-powered laser systems. For this reason, the development of the Airborne Airborne Laser (ABL) of the US Air Force did not continue, although in the 2010 year, thanks to its good optical system, it was able to destroy a ballistic missile in flight.

Optical fibers collect optical energy from advanced versions of laser diodes (their cheap counterparts are used in DVD players) and then increase the flow of light to high power, converting electrical energy into optical energy with an efficiency over 30%, which is close to the efficiency of chemical lasers and double more efficiency of solid-state lasers - small and compact, but not generating sufficient power or not having sufficient range. In addition, fiber lasers can quickly dissipate the heat generated, respectively, have a longer service life and low operating costs. Boeing's electrophysicists say that "a fiber laser can neutralize many targets in just two cups of fuel."

Europe ahead

The German company MBDA has also developed a fiber laser system with a power of 40 kW. Its first tests were successfully passed in October 2012, then the artillery shells, towed by air at a distance of about 2 km, were destroyed by a laser. Compared to conventional ammunition, precision-guided guidance also reduces the risk of indirect damage.

In June, MBDA reported that a free-living mini-UAV was successfully captured, escorted and destroyed by a laser machine a few seconds after the start at the testing ground in Bavaria. The drone, which maneuvered in the target area at a distance of approximately 500 meters, was hit by a laser setup in which the beams from several sources were combined into one powerful beam after a multi-stage tracking procedure.

At the next stage, a mobile demonstration unit-laser gun with an output power of 120 kW will be developed, which will use reflective optics, such as the Newton's reflecting telescope, where each laser module is controlled by its own focusing mirror, which directs the beam to one large main mirror. According to MBDA, the advantage here is that mirrors absorb less energy compared to lenses, and therefore, without fundamental changes, the output power of the optical system can be significantly increased.

Rheinmetall invested heavily in the design and development of VEL and at IDEX 2015 showed its laser gun mounted on the BOXER 8x8 armored personnel carrier. The company explained that during the tests conducted in Switzerland, the VEL units were integrated into three ground platforms BOXER, the M113 APC BTR and the Tatra 8x8 truck. During the demonstration, the installation of VEL on the BOXER (configured for 5 kW and 10 kW lasers identical in size and weight) neutralized a large-caliber machine gun mounted on a pickup truck. Sensors mounted on the dummy confirmed that during the whole process the levels of laser radiation were satisfactory. The air defense system, consisting of a SKYGUARD radar and a laser gun, also demonstrated its effectiveness against a completely new set of targets - small rotary-wing UAVs, also known as quadcopters. The SKYGUARD radar detected and identified the stuck quadcopter, and installing the VAL on the BOXER took it to escort and destroyed it. Rheinmetall has demonstrated that its 20-kilowatt laser machine (Mobile HEL Effector) on a Tatra truck can neutralize or destroy radio antennas, radar, power systems, and even weapons systems with minimal indirect damage. From a distance of 2000 meters, in a few seconds, optical devices such as telescopic weapons sights and remotely controlled cameras were put out of action. Using the example of its Air Defense HEL air defense system, Rheinmetall demonstrated the capabilities of VAL in air defense scenarios. In four seconds, the 30 kW demo laser setup destroyed an 82-mm mortar mine from a distance of 1000 meters. Also during this large-scale demonstration in Switzerland, several jet UAVs were successfully shot down.

VEL are preparing for combat work

Real conflicts, such as rocket attacks on Israeli territory from the Gaza Strip, are becoming a powerful incentive for further developments in the field of VAL. So Lockheed Martin created its ADAM (Area Defense Anti-Munitions) air defense system, which, like the prototype HEL MD from Boeing, uses a laser with a power of 10 kW. The company claims that the system can also destroy boats, UAVs and small-caliber missiles at distances up to 1,5 km.

Lockheed Martin also manufactured the ATHENA Advanced Test High Energy Asset, which in March 2015 demonstrated its capabilities and disabled the engine of a small truck. When using the same adaptive (self-adjusting) optics as in the ABL installation, ATHENA can be combined with another fiber laser of the same company, which has the designation ALADIN (Accelerated Laser Demonstration Initiative).

This is nothing particularly new, since Rafael and General Dyanmics Ordnance and Tactical Systems signed a license agreement for the delivery of the THOR module to the US military in October 2006 (option 7,62-mm / 12,7-mm remote-controlled combat module Mini-SAMSON), which, using an air-cooled laser mounted on it, can destroy IEDs and other explosive objects from a safe distance.

Endurance project

In November 2014, Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems received a contract worth 20,2 million dollars from the Advanced Research and Development Office of the United States Department of Defense (DARPA) for the second phase of the Endurance project. Within its framework, a VEL will be developed by March of 2016, which will be able to protect aircraft from ground-to-air missiles with laser and infrared guidance. At the first stage of this project, the Lockheed Martin division for special systems received a contract in 2013.

Previously, the current Endurance program was part of the DARPA VAL weapons program, named EXCALIBUR. As part of EXCALIBUR, coherent optical phased arrays for VAL weapons, which would be 10 times lighter and more compact than chemical laser systems, should have been developed. Now, under the Endurance program, a miniature laser is being developed for low-maintenance air applications. The development uses a variety of breakthrough technologies for miniaturization of components, high-precision tracking of targets, target identification, beam control and control electronics. The ultimate goal is to create a VEL in a suspended container for manned and unmanned vehicles, as well as a light optical system for forming and controlling the beam for coarse and precise tracking of moving targets.


Rheinmetall successfully tested its new demo of the 50 kW laser setup, killing two UAVs at a distance of 2 kilometers


Beam control systems for medium power lasers appeared at the end of the 60s of the late 70s. In the first laboratory systems, the beams were generated using heavy water-cooled copper optics and a sequence of open beams with commercial fans to supply fresh air. In subsequent years, they developed into high-precision stabilized systems with uncooled, self-adjusting optics with a high reflectance, which makes it possible to compensate for the nonideality of laser beams and atmospheric distortions.

Is the future here?

During testing by Boeing, installing HEL MD in a fully autonomous mode in May 2014 revealed one flaw. The noiselessness of the laser meant that if the target did not explode when destroyed, the laser system operator would not know if it was incapacitated. Therefore, the company has built in the process of neutralizing sound signals, suggesting the idea of ​​science fiction films. Although real lasers are not as futuristic as in these films. The MBDA company says that after 2015, it will take another five years to create fully operational and ready-to-use systems, at least in the 10 kW class. But the opinion of the head of work on photonics from the Livermore National Laboratory "This is not the phasers from the Star Trek television series (Star Trek) ... It will take some time and you can only talk about destroying targets in any conditions. In the meantime, having a basic level, without seeing the target, in heavy rain or fog, you will not fall into it. ”

But the future is already here. The head of the New American Security Center admits that high-energy laser-based weapons “cannot be as grand and strategic as the Star Wars concept.” However, speaking of its paramount importance for the modern battlefield, he added: “It can save lives, protect American bases, ships and military personnel ... After nearly a half century of searching, the US military is now on the verge of final deployment of ready-to-use directional weapons.”

Star Wars. Episode 0. Very near future

According to the military of different countries, the future war will be a war of lasers. Lasers on new combat fighters are an attractive prospect, but there is also a lower-hanging fruit in the world of science fiction weapons that the US Air Force hopes to be the first to break. Why not install lasers on heavier and more spacious armed transport planes (ganships)?

According to the research laboratory of directed energy, in addition to installing a laser cannon on the US Air Force gunship, they want to have a laser gun in the underwing container, which can be realized already on the next-generation fighter jets.

The British Department of Defense is looking for a contractor to produce a demonstration model of a directed energy weapon system. If a new British laser is developed and implemented, it will not just dazzle, it will burn. An American laser gun mounted on the US PONCE naval vehicle destroyed a drones and mock weapon during a demonstration to the Persian Gulf in 2014. The German laser also shot down drones, and Lockheed Martin is seriously considering the prospects for aircraft with laser guns that can shoot down ground-to-air missiles. The US Navy is building a truck system that will fight UAVs with lasers, and huge amounts of money are invested in this system. As part of the GBAD (Ground-Based Air Defense Directed Energy On-The-Move) Air Defense Ground Defense Program, a laser is mounted on a light machine, and touch equipment is on a couple of other machines. Weapons directed energy, installed on the ship, already burned holes in drones. But modern warships have onboard energy sources of enormous power; It is expected, for example, that the futuristic destroyer ZUMWALT of the US fleet will have 58 megawatts reserved for such systems.

The US Navy plans to "complete destruction of stationary targets" by the end of this year, which probably means a standing truck hitting the target with its laser gun. In 2016, the Naval Navy Research Administration (NIU Navy) plans to "demonstrate a single target defeat from a standstill, but with tracking and transmission of target data during movement." On 2017, the goal is to demonstrate the ability of the system to shoot down UAVs, change positions, and then continue to shoot down UAVs. If the system works as planned by the developers, the marines will be able to disable enemy reconnaissance UAVs very quickly, blinding and disabling all their electronic systems.

The US Navy and Air Force together want to develop a laser system to combat land mines and improvised explosive devices (IEDs). It is assumed that the RADBO laser system (Recovery of Airbase Denied by Ordinance - cleaning of airbases from explosive objects) will be installed on the roof of army vehicles of the category MRAP (with enhanced mine protection). The source of energy for the laser system RADBO are two alternators, together producing current 1100 amperes. The laser system will be able to detonate explosive objects from a distance of almost 300 meters, while all those sitting in the MRAP machine will be protected from possible subsequent explosions. In case the bomb is laid under stones or in the cracks, the RADBO system has a mechanical arm that can lift up to 23 kg. The laser system with some stretch can deal with moving targets, but fixed mines and IEDs are ideal objects for it. Tests of the RADBO system were completed in September of this year.



RADBO laser system for the disposal of unexploded ordnance and deactivation of minefield fields

Materials used:
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www.navy.mil
www.mbda-systems.com
www.rheinmetall.com
www.lockheedmartin.com
www.northropgrumman.com
www.baesystems.com
www.wikipedia.org
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  1. Throw
    Throw 24 November 2015 06: 49
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    During a rainstorm with a hurricane and lightning strikes, the HEL MD system mounted on an Oshkosh military truck was able to track and hit several 60 mm mines and UAVs at a distance of 5 kilometers

    10 th kilowatts ?? Come on! laughing

    In addition to the "statements" of the Boeing, is there any objective confirmation?
    1. i80186
      i80186 24 November 2015 07: 59
      +8
      Quote: Lance
      10 th kilowatts ?? Come on!

      You do not understand the very essence of DARPA and the like, just not everything is said. This is how the test was actually conducted. Mines hung suspended by a rope on posts, for the second they were pulled to the ground (so as not to swing), the exposure time was 2 minutes for each mine. The installation stood in a special heated bunker with constant humidity, protected from the wind, on a special machine fixed in a concrete floor. smile
      In general, this is how it was approximately.

      Well, if it were otherwise, would these lasers be everywhere like dirt or not? laughing
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 24 November 2015 12: 17
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        Another noodle on the ears. Strong lasers were made already as half a century, and someone Archimedes burned the Roman galleys 2 thousand years ago.
        1. i80186
          i80186 24 November 2015 14: 29
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          Quote: Scraptor
          Another noodle on the ears. Strong lasers were made already as half a century, and someone Archimedes burned the Roman galleys 2 thousand years ago.

          And the first computer a little earlier, but when did it appear on your desk? winked
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 24 November 2015 21: 42
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            Do you think something scientific, or is he following the movement of US satellites in orbit?
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            2. i80186
              i80186 25 November 2015 05: 25
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              Quote: Scraptor
              Do you think something scientific, or is he following the movement of US satellites in orbit?

              Do you know which one they flew to the moon with? It’s hard to even call it a computer. But it worked, and it does not work, it has been developed for 30 years. laughing
              Computer memory consisted of 2048 words of rewritable RAM and 36 K words of ROM with linear sampling on multiple stitched cores. The read / write cycle of RAM and ROM took 11,72 μs. The word length was 16 bits: 15 data bits and 1 parity bit. The processor 16-bit word format included 14 data bits, an overflow bit, and a sign bit.(C)
              1. Scraptor
                Scraptor 25 November 2015 08: 05
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                What has been developing for 30 years?

                This is not the computer that launched them there (from the Earth and back by trajectory calculation). Do you think in your own word? belay
                1. i80186
                  i80186 25 November 2015 13: 48
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                  Quote: Scraptor
                  What has been developing for 30 years?

                  Lasers are combat, mobile, to defeat various means of attack. What planet are you from? You didn’t hear about various kinds of SOI and the arms race? This is like one of the main articles of cutting money in the USA since the time of Reagan, and DARPA, which Lockheed Martin is the main filer. Well, the Bush clan is also anointed. laughing
                  And yes, in my MathCad, I’ll count the trajectory ten times faster than I thought in the 60s on a super computer. smile
                  CDC 6600 - a supercomputer of those years, appreciate the handsome.
                  1. Scraptor
                    Scraptor 25 November 2015 14: 30
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                    There is a long time, like a beam weapon ... the main sawyer around the Soviet SKVVP 25 years old saws.

                    Do not flatter yourself, a photo of your MathCad here, please.
                    1. i80186
                      i80186 25 November 2015 14: 54
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                      Quote: Scraptor
                      Do not flatter yourself, a photo of your MathCad here, please.

                      Google banned? http://ru.ptc.com/product/mathcad smile
                      Quote: Scraptor
                      There is a long time, like a beam weapon ... the main sawyer around the Soviet SKVVP 25 years old saws.

                      And F-35 is so the episode is over, the patient is more likely dead than alive. Air defense lasers - this is the new feeder. laughing

                      By the way, the performance of that computer, which I gave as an example, is commensurate with the performance of a single-chip computer, the name of which is my nickname.
                      1. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 26 November 2015 07: 57
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                        Now, strong lasers, which can be not only in air defense, are even among the Chinese, as the J-26 is being completed.

                        Performance is a certain amount by an abstract test and not by a specific task. As well as the number of valves per square inch, this is not quite the same when comparing the same CDC-6600 with BESM-6 lol
                      2. i80186
                        i80186 26 November 2015 08: 42
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                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Now, strong lasers, which can be not only in air defense, are even among the Chinese, as the J-26 is being completed.

                        They were all still in the 70s. So what? Someone managed to create a mobile and efficient field installation with a megawatt laser? They tell you about a cut of 30 years, and you argue. smile
                        Quote: Scraptor
                        Performance is a certain amount by an abstract test and not by a specific task. As well as the number of valves per square inch, this is not quite the same when comparing the same CDC-6600 with BESM-6

                        No, it’s just the performance. She really is commensurate. So think about where one has moved and where the second remains. Although, it would seem, two technologies appeared simultaneously. Moreover, no less funds were leaked to the lasers. Of course, you can stick crystals to the atomic bomb with tape, and call it a nuclear-pumped laser. Say - SOI, and pick up billions. Obviously in the United States this can be done even several times. But to really create a truly reliable, inexpensive, durable, all-weather and at the same time mobile weapon - so far nothing.
                      3. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 26 November 2015 10: 37
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                        And why do you think that they were not able to create? For a long time. It’s just that there were all kinds of agreements between the USA and the USSR ... on which the PRC was at the door when it created its own about 5 years ago.

                        The point is not only in the elemental base and the technology for their production, but also in the architecture of constructing a machine from it. As a fast-acting microcontroller, the i80186 will work, but it will NOT be able to unexpectedly solve super-supercomputer problems.
                        Stump-5 only at that level began to come close to BESM-6 in some of them, and it began after the purchase by Intel of Elrus technology.
                        You can simply wind up a regular EMR bomb with approximately the same result to the gas tube of the warhead.
                      4. i80186
                        i80186 26 November 2015 13: 05
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                        Quote: Scraptor
                        super-supercomputer problems, he UNEXPECTEDLY will not be able to solve

                        Well look, your favorite BESM-6 and the stump, it's just heaven and earth.
                        Here is a little detail about the speed. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS
                        And that's it, I'm tired of it. smile
                      5. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 26 November 2015 13: 27
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                        Is it really so? The stump rose only after the purchase of Elbrus, and continues to buy know-how.

                        Formula 1 may have a higher clock speed than
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/TGV
                        but it won’t be able to take so much lol
  • Bkmz
    Bkmz 24 November 2015 08: 10
    +6
    And to see how this crap works in a smoke screen and in non-flying weather conditions
    1. igordok
      igordok 24 November 2015 09: 58
      +2
      Quote: Bkmz
      And to see how this crap works in a smoke screen and in non-flying weather conditions

      Look at the title picture. Once the beam is visible, it means it is weakening, spending energy. They probably took the photo from some disco.
  • Down House
    Down House 24 November 2015 10: 36
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    Quote: Lance
    In addition to the "statements" of the Boeing, is there any objective confirmation?

    Of course not, otherwise the air defense and missile defense would have been "on lasers" for a long time - the same ships obviously have not 10 kW.
  • KAV
    KAV 24 November 2015 10: 43
    +4
    Bullshit. So many incorrect terms and amateurish language that the article is more like cheap fiction on TV3 ...
    The article is a fat minus.
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 24 November 2015 11: 22
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    http://www.wired.com/2014/09/armys-new-laser-cannon-blasts-drones-out-of-the-sky
    -even-in-fog /

    On the link, there is a video of tests. Who cares.
    1. Tilkus75
      Tilkus75 25 November 2015 13: 24
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      But we have everything "asymmetric" tongue
  • Aqela
    Aqela 2 December 2015 22: 39
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    Quote from the famous Wikipedia:
    The muzzle energy of the CPV reaches 31 kJ (for comparison, the 12,7 mm Browning M2HB machine gun has 17 kJ, and the 20 mm ShVAK air gun has about 28 kJ).

    And they will tell us here about the incredible capabilities of laser weapons with a power of up to 10 kJ? By the way, the fact that the energy is indicated not in Joules, but in Watts, in itself, suggests the idea of ​​a "breeder of rabbits" ...
    Again quote:
    The book "Interstate standard. State system for ensuring the uniformity of measurements. UNITS OF VALUES.
    Energy, work, amount of heat - joule J J m2⋅kg⋅s-2
    Power - W W W m2⋅kg⋅s-3

    As if a hint: Joule - per second, Watt - per second per second ... (That is, the energy of 1 joule per second - this is the power of 1 watt). Why am I? From all these press releases it doesn’t follow in any way how long these mines and drones warmed up to eliminate them. It’s possible to just throw in a fire and turn a piece of coal for an hour and a half ...
    One more remark, at 100% efficiency the calorific value of kerosene = 43,54 MJ / kg.
    The efficiency of a diesel generator (which is 1,4 times more efficient than a gasoline generator, without heat recovery) is 0,39-0,47. So, "two cups of fuel" (let's forget that kerosene is much more efficient than fuel oil) = 300 g. Drink tea from a vending machine that sells drinks - there are standard doses. There will be smaller coffee shops. 43000 kJ / kg * 0,4 (efficiency) * 0,3 kg = 5160 J = 5 kJ ... It will not be enough ... The energy of the Mosin rifle shot is quite comparable = 3,3 kJ. fool
    Who will now consider that a 7,62-caliber machine gun is an ultimate weapon? But its power ... 3600 J * 10 (10 rounds per second) = 36 kW, and at a rate of fire of 15 per minute. - more... request
    Laser weapons - brilliant cut !!! fellow
  • igorka357
    igorka357 24 November 2015 06: 49
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    After a thousand years, everything will be able to, and people will learn to fly on their own, but ... if the planet allows us to live another thousand years ..)) !!!
  • Felix1
    Felix1 24 November 2015 07: 34
    -6
    an interesting article, everything is described in great detail, the Americans have come very far in this direction, well done.
    1. Denis DV
      Denis DV 24 November 2015 08: 20
      +2
      Wow, good old laser laughing let's see the pentagon surpass George Lucas laughing especially his new development - "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" laughing laughing laughing
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 24 November 2015 09: 56
        -3
        In the future, supercapacitors will solve the problem of lasers, as well as the problem of density and power of radiation passing through fog, clouds - all this will soon be solved.
        1. Streich
          Streich 24 November 2015 10: 01
          +2
          And refraction, and interference, where to put them ???? Supercondensers to disperse?
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  • venaya
    venaya 24 November 2015 07: 46
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    most high-power lasers operate in the invisible infrared region

    The article is useful, explains a lot and supplements the previously obtained information. It's just a pity that we are still keeping the terminology: it is sometimes useful to translate the meaning of certain terms so as not to confuse readers, for example, a "laser" - an emitter of electromagnetic radiation in the visible optical range of radiation (0,38 - 0,7 microns), and then in One article uses different concepts under this word. The infrared emitter was called "maser", although in principle the difference is small, but in Russian there is a simple word "emitter", it is a pity that we will be excommunicated from our native language, because it is more developed than the same island English.
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 24 November 2015 11: 02
      +3
      Quote: venaya
      The infrared emitter was called "maser", although in principle the difference is small, but in Russian there is a simple word "emitter", it is a pity that we will be excommunicated from our native language, because it is more developed than the same island English.

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мазер
      "Maser" is a quantum generator that emits coherent electromagnetic waves centimeter range (microwave). Its name is an abbreviation of the phrase "Microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation"

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Лазер
      "Laser (English laser, acronym for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation"), or an optical quantum generator, is a device that converts pump energy (light, electrical, thermal, chemical, etc.) into energy coherent, monochromatic, polarized and narrow directional radiation flux. "

      So the article is correct.
      1. venaya
        venaya 24 November 2015 12: 46
        -1
        Quote: Cube123
        laser, An acronym for and "light", too amplification by stimulated emission of radiation света by stimulated emission "), or optic a quantum generator is a device that converts pump energy (light, electrical, thermal, chemical, etc.) into the energy of coherent, monochromatic, polarized and narrowly directed radiation flux. "

        The next time you try to teach someone on the VO site, try not to use such a parnous site as wikipedia. I’m already tired of correcting and explaining to people here that this site for me, like the French humorous magazine, does not have any authority, too often they drive outright misinformation and thereby confuse all people here because of specially built-in errors. I myself have an education and will figure it out in any bullshit myself, I have experience and relevant education. As you yourself have not noticed that the English term and "light", too only relevant visible emission spectrum, for infrared radiation in English the term infrared radiation is used and during my education the emitters of this range were called "maser" and nothing else. And with foreign tech. I had to deal with literature since I was 16, and I got used to this kind of disinformation. if something is not clear to you, then I can explain in more detail, there is a total mess on Wikipedia, and this is easy to prove.
        1. Cube123
          Cube123 24 November 2015 16: 54
          +1
          Try calling a 2 micron CO10,6 laser a "maser" and they will laugh at you for a very long time. If you don't want a Wiki, please http://reklab.ru/catalog/rashodka_st/co2-izluchateli/
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 November 2015 17: 31
          +1
          "for infrared radiation in English the term infrared radiation is used" ////

          Not very strict fellow . The term infrared light is also used.
          From the site http://missionscience.nasa.gov/ems/07_infraredwaves.html for example:

          "... A remote control uses light waves just beyond the visible spectrum of light - infrared light waves - to change channels on your TV"
          1. venaya
            venaya 24 November 2015 22: 03
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            Quote: voyaka uh
            infrared light waves

            Oh Lord, save my soul! Now it turns out that my heating battery (radiator in Latin) glow with infrared light in the range of electromagnetic radiation waves of 10 microns. To what we have reached, we have dirtied the English language with the youth, and now we are already taking up the source language of all languages, the Russian language itself. In general, we pass from a "shift of concepts" simply to a "shift of consciousness", well, some kind of chutzpah turns out.
            Cube123"Try calling a 2 μm CO10,6 laser a "maser" and they will laugh at you for a very long time"- It is better to try all the same to turn on the stopwatch and measure the time during which they will do it (laughing), usually, in my presence, it takes no more than a minute, then bitter insight and biting elbows. I recall today's comment by Al. Romanov, where he says on the page that "he won't go to this kindergarten anymore," I'll go look for his comment, put a plus sign.
            1. Cube123
              Cube123 25 November 2015 09: 04
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              Quote: venaya
              shine infrared light

              Learn Russian first - at first I thought that you just described, now I see that you have a systematic error. You repeat this error in every post.
              http://anatomy_terms.academic.ru/123/инфра-
              "infra-
              (lp)
              infra-
              gives words the meaning of the location under smth., below smth.
              infrasound sound vibrations under the range of audibility (contrast. ultrasound - over the range of audibility)
              infrared: infrared radiation - electromagnetic radiation under the range of visibility (above - ultraviolet)
              infrastructure of a branch of the economy having a subordinate, auxiliary character (transport, communications, logistics, etc.) "
              After that, you will have the right to defend the "crap" Russian language.

              And as for the "radiator", did you study physics in high school? Have you ever met such a thing as "absolutely black body"? smile
  • Denis DV
    Denis DV 24 November 2015 08: 40
    +5
    And yet, you can connect the car battery to the microwave and attach wings and drop it from the plane, and such a design will have many letters and numbers in the marking, and most importantly, there will be cotton wool, amperes, joules, and a terrible whistle when it falls. fellow laughing laughing laughing
    1. vlad_m
      vlad_m 24 November 2015 14: 47
      +1
      "- Yes, we served in Vietnam with him on a helicopter! Yes! And dropped live bulls on top of the Vietnamese!"
      “And why the living!”
      - And when they fall, they moo terribly! "

      (c) "I see nothing, I hear nothing." - http://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/4064/
  • guzik007
    guzik007 24 November 2015 09: 18
    -1
    That is precisely why the Yankees must be killed before our weapons cease to be effective. And after that, calmly deal with the trophies, separating the grain from the chaff.
  • Streich
    Streich 24 November 2015 09: 45
    +3
    Lasers, as I recall, this thing is very moody. Not like a controlled, high-speed system - it's just super, but it's all practically in a vacuum. There, yes, and speed and range, etc. But in a real battle - a desert, where most Americans conduct their experiments, when it is dry dustless, then of course it can and works. Sea - well, here always sea dust is even worse, interference is amplified many times. In high atmospheric layers, i.e. aboard a high-altitude aircraft, yes it works, but if we talk about constant presence, then you can’t fly a lot on refueling in the air. The most effective laser application for combat use (target destruction) is, of course, space. Which, in fact, they tried to do in the USSR, but the Americans understood this and planted a combiner who did Perestroika instead of a space combat laser system. Such thoughts suggest themselves.
  • Yes I am Russian
    Yes I am Russian 24 November 2015 11: 20
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    to listen to them, so soon the Jedi Knights will run in the US instead of special forces.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 24 November 2015 11: 50
    +1
    I read the article and she amused me with her naivety ... If we take into account the logic of the author, then plasma weapons will be developed much faster than the appearance of laser weapons. And developments are being carried out in this direction. As far as the laser is concerned, too many factors affect power, efficiency and accuracy such weapons.
    And if you forget about all this fantasy mutat, we are still on the verge of hyper-speed systems and railguns. This is the near future. hi
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 24 November 2015 12: 32
      +1
      This future has been considered the closest for over 100 years. repeat
      http://topwar.ru/30123-reylgan-perspektivy-magnitofugalnoi-pushki.html
  • Photon
    Photon 24 November 2015 12: 28
    +2
    "laser weapons with a total voltage of 13800 volts, which is 300% more than the power generation of ships of the NIMITZ class"

    I did not read further
  • v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 24 November 2015 15: 35
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    But once upon a time, we overtook lasers by 20 years, perestroika overpowered everything.
    It was infa that, by order of Yeltsin and in connection with the request of the Americans, all information was provided, all the developments on lasers. Friend Bill was thrilled.
  • Denimax
    Denimax 24 November 2015 20: 05
    -1
    The laser is of course fast, but the power still desires better. All of these tests are certainly impressive, But, for that they are tests that you do them yourself as you wish. Let them try to shoot down ATGMs, I think they will break off. Since the flight is twisted and everything rests on the capabilities of the tracking and guidance system.
    As a laser ganship is quite promising now, only some convention will quickly ban. Live frying will be worse than bobbing heads. IMHO
  • Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 24 November 2015 20: 19
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    Terminator: Plasma rifle, 40 MW.
    Salesman: Listen, only what is on the window, pal.

    Salesman: [The terminator in the weapons store charges the shotgun] But this can’t be done already ...
    Terminator: [shoots at the seller] Yes.
  • Fastenkov
    Fastenkov 25 November 2015 02: 06
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    Well you have to chrome all drones and ammunition ..... glamurrrrr
  • Xwazilb
    Xwazilb 7 December 2015 17: 48
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    Overview of the same. Didn’t learn anything new (