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Sands on the "flare" of secret data on the "Status-6": "We hope that this will not happen again"

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A spokesman for the head of state, Dmitry Peskov, confirmed that the reports of a number of Russian TV channels devoted to the meeting with Vladimir Putin on defense issues revealed secret information about weapons systems, the portal reports Morning.ru.




“Indeed, there some secret data got into the camera lens, so they were subsequently deleted. We hope that this will not happen again, ”- said Peskov at the briefing, explaining why these shots later disappeared from the plots.

When asked about the organizational conclusions related to the data leak, Peskov replied: “I still don’t know about any measures, but in the future we will certainly take preventive measures so that this will not happen again.”



The resource reminds that in the NTV report, materials on the ocean-based multi-purpose system “Status-6” were shown, the purpose of which is “the destruction of important objects of the enemy’s economy in the coastal area and the application of guaranteed unacceptable damage to the country’s territory by creating zones of extensive radioactive contamination unsuitable for these zones of military, economic and other activities for a long time. " The alleged carriers of the system, as it has now become known, are the nuclear submarine Belgorod (project 09852) and the submarine Khabarovsk under construction (project 09851).



Self weapon It is a massive torpedo, designated as "self-propelled underwater vehicle" with a depth of about 1 thousand m and a range - up to 10 thousand km.
Photos used:
Sergey Karpov / TASS, Mikhail Zherdev / NTV
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  1. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 12 November 2015 11: 01 New
    166
    Hinted :)
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 12 November 2015 11: 05 New
      89
      Yeah, it also seems to me that this is a "type" leak! And there you can make out the purpose of the STATUS-6 Ocean Multi-Purpose System: “Defeat important enemy economic facilities and inflict guaranteed unacceptable damage on the country's territory by creating zones of extensive radioactive contamination unsuitable for military, economic, and other activities in these areas for a long time.
      So, think, foe! And necessarily - with a normal, human head! And not the rear hemispheres!
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 12 November 2015 11: 07 New
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        Quote: Baikonur
        ha, it also seems to me like a leak!


        ... not a frail torpedo along the way! bully fellow
        IMHO under 100 the megatons will pull ...
        Tremble America and cry Europe ... You will have the biggest, biggest OPA! ...

        On the slide about the system, which was shown by the TV channels, it was said that “Status-6” is a self-propelled underwater vehicle in the form of a massive torpedo. It can sink to a depth of 1 km and has a range of up to 10 thousand km. The system will move in two nuclear submarines. In the case of launching a torpedo and hitting a target, it can create zones of extensive radioactive contamination, which will then be unsuitable for military and economic activities.


        More details: https://eadaily.com/news/2015/11/12/kreml-podtverdil-utechku-sekretnyh-dannyh-o-

        sisteme-status-6-sluchayno-popali-v-kadr
        1. cniza
          cniza 12 November 2015 13: 02 New
          +8
          [quote = Rus2012] [quote = Baikonur] ha, it also seems to me that this is like a leak! [/ quote]


          From this leak, some will start hysteria, just like that, such "mistakes" are not made.
          1. krot
            krot 12 November 2015 18: 13 New
            +1
            Awesome weapons! As soon as it goes into service, the states will have no chance of survival if they attack ..
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        3. smershxnumx
          smershxnumx 12 November 2015 14: 32 New
          18
          This is the "New" Kuzkina mother "!!! fellow
          1. Coconut Tima
            Coconut Tima 12 November 2015 14: 41 New
            16
            Quote: smerx24
            This is the "New" Kuzkina mother "!!!

            This is Kuzkina’s sister.
            1. askort154
              askort154 12 November 2015 15: 22 New
              47
              coconuts .... This is the "Kuzkina sister"

              Looks like it's "KUZKA SELF"
              1. Oleg14774
                Oleg14774 12 November 2015 22: 07 New
                +2
                Quote: askort154
                Looks like it's "KUZKA SELF"

                For good reason! :)
              2. Lee_Mubai
                Lee_Mubai 12 November 2015 23: 35 New
                +7
                laughing good Kuzka himself)))))))
                1. Aleksandr Tot
                  Aleksandr Tot 14 November 2015 01: 10 New
                  +1
                  Not himself and not Kuzka. Well nizya send and say directly. Diplomats don’t go straight. You, too, are not a full name, but Li_Mubai with a tiger face. I am also with narrow stripes.
          2. SIMM
            SIMM 13 November 2015 09: 04 New
            +6
            And this is “Kuzkin father” modestly kept in the shadows, so as not to cause bouts of involuntary diarrhea in the “interested parties” ...
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        5. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 12 November 2015 15: 12 New
          +5
          Tremble America and cry Europe ... You will have the biggest, biggest OPA! ...

          Yes, it finally can not be against America !!! This is - like its anti-defense "non-Russia" and against IranU! We are partners, but what about the opposite of foe ... pah, ally! and also against the Afghan fleet - striking along its Pacific coast! wassat
        6. Manul
          Manul 12 November 2015 15: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Rus2012
          IMHO under 100 the megatons will pull ...

          Maybe the principle of a "dirty" bomb in the appendage is implemented?
      2. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 12 November 2015 11: 23 New
        16
        Pralna, Khrushchev called it - show Kuzkin mother! Here we are, like, have shown - and now you think, owners of sea coasts! (a lighter sigh sounded from behind with a hiccup of countries without maritime borders, but with a bad temper) request
        1. Duke
          Duke 12 November 2015 12: 56 New
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          On November 11, 2015, the “nuclear torpedo project” was demonstrated “by accident” "Status-6" with a range of 10.000 km, a depth of 1000 meters and a caliber of 1,6 meters close to the T-15 and attributed to the continuation of the T-15 by many experts. According to Norman Polmar, an expert in naval technology, published by The Washington Times, even before the "leak", one should expect a revival of the Russian T-15 project in a new capacity as a "weapon of retaliation." Russian President’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov confirmed that Russian television channels did indeed "accidentally" show footage in the news about the secret Status-6 system
          The main striking factor of the new “tsar-torpedo” is not the creation of a tsunami like the T-15, but massive nuclear pollution of the coast with the aim of impossibility of conducting economic activities and living there. Note that Academician Sakharov also proposed a scenario of an attack against US ports using a cobalt bomb, a special version of an atomic weapon with an unusually high yield of radioactive material.In order to ensure radioactive contamination of the entire surface of the Earth, it takes only 510 tons of cobalt-60. Note that previously it was believed that the cobalt bomb is only a theoretical weapon and no country actually possesses it. However, measurements of the Research Institute of Radiation Hygiene them. Ramzaev at the site of the test of nuclear charges in 1971 as part of the Taiga project, near Perm with the officially declared legend of explosions to create the Pechora-Kolva canal, revealed radiation contamination with cobalt-60 isotopes, which can only be obtained artificially. Military analyst Jeffrey Lewis believes that the radioactive damage from Status-6 will be provided not by a cobalt bomb, but by a “dirty bomb” based on Cesium isotopes, as such a warhead is very cheap.
          According to The Daily Mirror, the fact that the “Status-6” demonstration was carried out during a meeting of the Russian Defense Ministry dedicated to the US missile defense shows that this weapon is seen as an asymmetric response to the US missile defense, making it useless against strategic nuclear torpedoes.
          Note that the immersion depth and speed of the “Status-6” surpasses the capabilities of the US anti-submarine torpedoes like the “Mark 54”. It should also be noted that in the original T-15 idea, Academician Sakharov proposed using an armored version of the torpedo to reduce the likelihood of anti-submarine damage and to provide a breakthrough of anti-torpedo networks without damaging the torpedo.

          1. atalef
            atalef 12 November 2015 23: 12 New
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            Quote: Duke
            On November 11, 2015, the “Status-6” nuclear torpedo project was demonstrated “by accident” with a range of 10.000 km, a depth of 1000 meters and a caliber of 1,6 meters close to the T-15 and attributed to the continuation of the T-15 by many experts. According to an expert in naval technology

            I'm not a specialist at all, but a question? And why the heck is the range of 10t kilometers?
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 12 November 2015 23: 49 New
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              I'm not a specialist at all, but a question? And why the heck is the range of 10t kilometers?

              So that you can launch from your pier, even if in the ocean the submarines can be tracked and destroyed before it uses this product. hi
            2. vaschenko07
              vaschenko07 13 November 2015 09: 59 New
              +2
              I, too, am not a specialist, but for hell would I need a range of 100 m? plow the land ahead of you?
            3. hrych
              hrych 13 November 2015 11: 28 New
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              And why the heck a range of 10t kilometers

              Starting from the carrier is done in water. If a ballistic missile flies toward the target in a straight line, then you need to make a path around the islands, Canada, etc., to maneuver, etc., plus if you cross even in a straight line, say the Pacific Ocean, then the range corresponds ...
            4. MT266
              MT266 13 November 2015 11: 34 New
              +2
              weapons of retaliation ..... if we get banged then the states will have to move to Mars
            5. srelock
              srelock 13 November 2015 14: 10 New
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              I'm not a specialist at all, but a question? And why the heck is the range of 10t kilometers?

              Range - just right. Ocean + riverbeds on the continent of the alleged enemy. The launch from the TA in the White Sea region is, in principle, undetectable, and the depth of the course in the ocean and the dimensions of the product guarantee a near-zero probability of detection on the march. That is, until the moment of undermining, the fact of the attack does not burn. good It’s not like missile defense, it’s all SPRN - it’s down the drain tongue
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 13 November 2015 00: 20 New
            +2
            Late lit up.

            A lot of dough has already been spent on missile defense.
      3. Jack-b
        Jack-b 12 November 2015 11: 33 New
        108
        As I understand it, the intelligence of our potential partners works so badly that the "leak" had to be organized through the media.
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 13 November 2015 13: 45 New
          +1
          Maybe it's not about intelligence. It’s just that the State Department will more clearly perceive the CIA’s work on this issue.
      4. tomket
        tomket 12 November 2015 11: 34 New
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        Quote: Baikonur
        “The defeat of important objects of the enemy’s economy and the guaranteed unacceptable damage to the territory of the country by creating zones of extensive radioactive contamination unsuitable for a long time in these zones of military, economic, economic and other activities.

        And whom they were going to scare with an atomic torpedo when INTER-CONTINENTAL ROCKETS were not the first ten years on duty.
        1. Jack-b
          Jack-b 12 November 2015 11: 37 New
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          Well, they make missile defense from missiles, and even think that it will help them. And they have no anti-torpedo defense! )))))))))
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 12 November 2015 14: 09 New
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            Quote: Jack-B
            And they have no anti-torpedo defense! )))))))))
            Why did you get this? If the torpedo started off the coast of Russia, no matter where it was argued, the torpedo is still inextricably linked with the submarine, and the US anti-submarine defense began to be created long before the first ideas on missile defense. One of the very first was the SOSUS (SOund SUrveillance System), which was created to warn of the approach of Soviet nuclear boats to the US coast. The first test array of hydrophones was installed in 1951 in the Bahamas. By 1958, receiving stations were installed along the east and west coast of the United States and the Hawaiian Islands. In 1959, arrays were installed on Newfoundland Island. And this is just the beginning, no one more than the Yankees was so preoccupied with anti-submarine security, which continues to improve, even the IJIS, in addition to the missile defense designation, also has an anti-submarine component. Our "leak" in performance level is primitive, and scare the United States with a "vigorous" torpedo that will drag boats across the ocean to the US coast, with the total dominance of anti-submarine aircraft, surface and submarine fleets, plus active and passive tracking systems ... Finally, such turnovers as "and the infliction of guaranteed unacceptable damage to the territory of the country by creating zones of extensive radioactive contamination unsuitable for carrying out military, economic, economic and other activities in these zones for a long time tim "would be more suited to LIH with a" dirty bomb "than for Russia. If we talk about global war, the US nuclear destruction is acceptable precisely without pollution of the coast, where the mainland of the United States would become an exclusion zone from Eurasia. Here you don’t have to be a great georg, just look at the maps of the sea currents that will bring all the radioactive “havno” from such a torpedo, get the boat to our shores. However, get to the point of nuclear war, there will no longer be much difference in the "purity" of the environment. Putin needs to change such advisers who invent these “leaks” for the media, to the delight of the patriots.
            1. Denis DV
              Denis DV 12 November 2015 14: 33 New
              +7
              See the range))) they’ll roll it without a submarine from the shore)))
              1. Per se.
                Per se. 12 November 2015 19: 13 New
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                Quote: Denis DV
                See the range))) they’ll roll it without a submarine from the shore)))
                It’s impressive, especially if you know that the Atlant class cruiser (1164 project, according to NATO’s Glory classification) has 30 knots in nautical miles and 2500 knots in an economical range of 18 nautical miles. Who does not know, the nautical mile is equal to 6000 kilometers. It turns out that the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the cruiser "Moscow", has a range in kilometers of an economical move almost equal to a torpedo! If our journalists confuse meters with kilometers, it may also be to fear the enemies, but it does not do honor and intelligence. You’d even think sometimes, “fuel oil onshore”, “jerked off” cons here, thank you for at least some objecting in the comments openly. Your torpedo cannot have a range of 1,852 10 kilometers (despite the fact that torpedoes do not have an economical course, and speeds are from 000 knots and higher), the distance across the entire Atlantic, from Cape Rock (the westernmost point of Europe), to Cape St. Charles ( The easternmost point of North America) is 40 kilometers. If 3909 km, this torpedo from the mooring wall in the Northern Fleet would be launched without a carrier submarine. Finally, the very concept of such an "asymmetric response" with a torpedo would at least fit for Iran, for us it could be relevant in the 10000 years of the last century, there is no need to shame on such clumsy "leaks".
                Quote: krot
                Campaign You need to take "Putin's chief adviser!"
                I think, Pavel, that Vladimir Vladimirovich will figure it out without me.
                1. Jack-b
                  Jack-b 12 November 2015 19: 54 New
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                  Quote: Per se.
                  Your torpedo cannot have a range of 10 000 kilometers

                  We have such devices! .... But we won’t tell you about them))))
                  Sergey, this crap is called a torpedo very conditionally, purely due to external similarities. In the article, she is designated as "self-propelled underwater vehicle." And if you look at the screenshot of the report, you can see that this canoe does not fit in the submarine and therefore hangs under her belly. And it’s a third in length and probably a quarter in diameter. And why did you decide that such a device is not able to swim 10000 km?
                  Threat. Gauges also seemed to fly all on 300km ......
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 12 November 2015 23: 17 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Jack-B
                    Quote: Per se.
                    Your torpedo cannot have a range of 10 000 kilometers

                    We have such devices! .... But we won’t tell you about them))))

                    Yes, it’s possible to do 100t kilometers of range, the question is, why the heck is 10t?
                    1. gladcu2
                      gladcu2 13 November 2015 00: 27 New
                      +1
                      atalef

                      Is it not clear?

                      A carrier submarine can be located anywhere in the world’s oceans with the ability to complete a mission for any purpose.
                  2. Per se.
                    Per se. 12 November 2015 23: 45 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Jack-B
                    you can see that this canoe does not fit in the submarine and therefore hangs under her belly.
                    I just noticed this, Eugene. Now imagine such a “tandem” in the sea, as far as this, as you noticed, the canoe should “improve” the characteristics of the boat in a military campaign. Let it be a “self-propelled vehicle”, “mini-submarine” or “tsar-torpedo”, its cruising range is still limited, even if it is completely empty, all filled with one fuel, 10 0000 kilometers this unit will not pass under water, our boats are of the type “Varshavyanka” "with an increased fuel supply at fuel-efficient 7 units, they give about 7500 miles, German boats of the U-212 type, up to 8000 miles. The torpedo will sink at low speed, and there are no atomic micromotors that would provide the desired speed and range for torpedoes. I already noted that in the article, most likely a typo, instead of 10000 meters, but even if such a miracle with a range, there is little point in this dashboard, if there are cruise and intercontinental missiles. Too much of our show has become, this "leak" seems to be just that, and not the most successful. Such my opinion on this article, who was closer to the truth and common sense here, maybe we will someday find out.
                    1. gladcu2
                      gladcu2 13 November 2015 00: 32 New
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                      Per se.

                      This underwater robot has no dependency on having living compartments. And as a result, there is no need to compare the pressure difference. Therefore, the deep water is high and the power reserve is large.

                      In this regard, the carrier boat should not play cat and mouse. And it will bring the device to the desired but unexpected point. It may well leave on an un-silted bottom surface. And go about your business.

                      This is a weapon of retaliation so that a nuclear war does not begin.
                      1. Per se.
                        Per se. 13 November 2015 07: 30 New
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                        Quote: gladcu2
                        This underwater robot has no dependency on having living compartments. And as a result, there is no need to compare the pressure difference. Therefore, the deep water is high and the power reserve is large.
                        First of all, this is a torpedo, as can be seen from the photo, perhaps only after the multifunctional "robot". The submarine has a stock of buoyancy, a torpedo without movement goes to the bottom, since it does not have such a stock of buoyancy, and does not sink only due to speed. No matter how large the size of this torpedo might seem, it is impossible to refute the laws of physics, especially if the classical form of the torpedo is preserved, and, therefore, the classical layout. There is nothing superfluous in the torpedo, and its range depends on the type of engine, there is currently no engine for such a volume that, if there were various blocks, a warhead and fuel, and at a speed sufficient for buoyancy of the torpedo, it would provide a range of 10000 kilometers. Even for airplanes and cruise missiles, where air resistance is less than what water creates, such a range is unbelievable. If you so want to believe the lines in the article, your right is only not a matter of distance, let there be at least a million kilometers, "asked why," why the heck, to launch a torpedo along the shore, for the sake of this "pollution"? If we just want to annoy the Americans “before death”, with the same success we can lay nuclear mines around the perimeter of their land borders or the coast, a kind of nuclear “Shaheed belt”, in the case of a minor with the war, “Allahu akbar!”, And a kerdyk to the whole world from radiation, according to the principle of explosion of powder cellars, when boarding battle was played and they did not want to hand over the ship. Undermining the US coast is not much different, since sea currents will spread radiation to our shores. If this miracle torpedo has a more modest range, and it must be delivered at least to the center of the Atlantic or the Pacific Ocean, there will be little chance of getting this tandem cuttlefish, unless the carrier boat itself dives to the maximum depth declared by the torpedo , 1000 meters. The classic torpedo diagram is shown in the picture, once again look at what you can reduce there (and what to add) to get a range of ten thousand kilometers.
                    2. Jack-b
                      Jack-b 13 November 2015 06: 16 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Per se.
                      Too much of our show has become, this "leak" seems to be just that, and not the most successful.

                      On account of whether it is successful or not, this can also be argued. To begin with, how much is this "torpedo" generally needed with such goals and characteristics? Perhaps there is no need for it as such. But the project can be developed as an intermediate for testing the technology, say, in anaerobic plants, and whatever it may be. Those. It is not useless initially. Perhaps within the framework of this project, nuclear power plants will be developed for a range of 10t.km, for subsequent use on submarines. On the other hand, nuclear weapons are primarily deterrence weapons. And in this case, the task of making large sections of the territories unsuitable for living and exploitation is justified. Fundamentally, such a weapon will not help to win the war, but it will make probable partners think before the start of the war. True, the Americans will not understand everything and try to develop a proto-torpedo defense. Or modify the anti-submarine. Which, in principle, is also not bad, in the sense that they will spend a lot of money on this arms race and saw a bunch. So I don’t think this show is so bad.
                    3. akm8226
                      akm8226 13 November 2015 12: 52 New
                      +4
                      If she has nuclear power, then the question is no longer valid. As for the deterioration of the TTX tandem - no one can interfere with the launch point and unfasten the device. And the device can lie at any depth and any number, as non-residential, and wait in the wings.
                2. atalef
                  atalef 12 November 2015 23: 17 New
                  0
                  Quote: Per se.
                  It’s impressive, especially if you know that an Atlant class cruiser (project 1164, according to NATO’s Glory classification) has a range of 30 knots at 2500 nautical miles and an economic range of 18 knots at 6000 nautical miles.

                  Yes, with such a range. it can be launched from the Moskva River, it will pass through all the channels and all the same to where it is NECESSARY, it will have enough range. laughing
                3. Azitral
                  Azitral 13 November 2015 09: 37 New
                  +4
                  Range 10000km? Why not, if it costs YaSU? Touch on compact, we have a good one. There are no high requirements for the safety factor at the reactor. If so, then neither cobalt nor cesium is needed. They will be replaced by evaporated YaSU.
                4. Virek
                  Virek 13 November 2015 11: 05 New
                  +3
                  Come on, about 10000 km, it certainly can be exaggerated ... But nonetheless. I don’t think that our warriors are not aware of the technique stuffed with the ocean ... I was always surprised by people who criticize their own people, not knowing their capabilities ... But they know EVERYTHING about American capabilities !!! ... well, they wrote 10000 km., well maybe it’s generally a ballistic missile, it starts out of the water, then turns into a winged one ... I’m not a supporter of the patriots cheers)) but I don’t like smart people either) but I put "+" for knowledge))
                  1. Per se.
                    Per se. 13 November 2015 19: 49 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Virek
                    I was always surprised by people who criticize their own, not knowing their capabilities ...
                    Victor, what is better than people who praise something that they also don’t know? The skeptic, in matters of national security, is much more useful than enthusiastic optimists. I hope you are not interested in reading slogans and bravado, like, is it time for Americans to stock up on diapers? I expressed my attitude to the topic, no more. The way this material was presented to the media, I did not like, it is very reminiscent of how Iran, in its time, “scared” the United States with miracle weapons. If we come up with ideas on the “Tsar Torpedo”, this is an alarming signal, since it’s the 21st century in the yard, and not the beginning of the 50 of the last century. And it was about a torpedo on the shore, there is no clue to yours “maybe it’s a rocket at all”, a torpedo, with a range of 10 000 kilometers, is almost a quarter of the equator. I got involved in these comments, with an objection to the US lack of anti-submarine defense, and about these extraordinary kilometers of range, even for many surface ships, such as destroyers and frigates. Minus-minders flashed, and, most likely, without delving into the essence of the commentary. I myself don’t like wise men, but I want to love fools even less. If we start a misinformation, we must do it more professionally. And yet, there would be much more benefit from the presence of "black holes", additional flocks of our diesel-electric boats with the same "Caliber" (including with special charges) off the coast of the USA. The United States will be much more afraid of these giant torpedoes than a couple of nuclear boats.
                    1. basal
                      basal 14 November 2015 17: 30 New
                      +3
                      Sorry, I’ll fit into the discussion.
                      Torpedo at 10000km? Maybe. For satellites they make nuclear engines, although they do not advertise. What about navigation? The weapon of retaliation - we start from Murmansk - where are the coordinates? Sorry, even powerful ballistic missiles have problems with such distances. A semicircular trip under water? Remember Jules Verne?
                      Yes nafig! Aiming at New York - banged Brazil !!!
                      Damn, forgotten how to play football, and the girls (samba-rio) feel sorry (((
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                6. Black Colonel
                  Black Colonel 13 November 2015 13: 53 New
                  0
                  torpedoes do not have an economical move,
                  For existing ones, yes. And what is in development, God knows.
                7. zhekazs
                  zhekazs 13 November 2015 21: 41 New
                  +5
                  But this torpedo is just the “tip of the iceberg” of the asymmetric answer, because, as you correctly noted, such an answer would not have impressed the adversary. Let us recall the Iskander in Kaliningrad, the constant flights of YES, progress with the PAK FA, the development of the PAK YES, news about the introduction of new submarines almost every month, training launches at the Kamchatka training ground and further down the list. So there will be a torpedo to the place.
              2. Aljavad
                Aljavad 13 November 2015 01: 00 New
                -5
                and without a submarine they’ll roll it from the shore)))


                By the forces of the construction battalion !!!! good
              3. Winter cherry
                Winter cherry 13 November 2015 13: 20 New
                0
                Between Philadelphia and the Kuril ridge ~ 6,6 thousand km, between New York and Spain too. Go to the Atlantic, I hope our will be able to from the Barents
            2. Volzhanin
              Volzhanin 12 November 2015 15: 18 New
              10
              with a travel depth of about 1 thousand m and a range of up to 10 thousand km.

              Given these TX, all the achievements of America can be flushed into the toilet.
              But Putin does not need to change advisers, but organize the installation of many multimaton nuclear charges around the perimeter of America and Gay Britain. Then all the missile defense and other crap NATO members can shove their ass flat! And if we still have not done so, then we are fools!

              Eh, to test these things on a despicable Englishwoman !!!
              1. atalef
                atalef 12 November 2015 23: 28 New
                -1
                Quote: Volzhanin
                Given these TX, all the achievements of America can be flushed into the toilet.

                And absolute uselessness in the Russian missile forces.
                Why do we need ICBMs in this case? Budget cut?
            3. krot
              krot 12 November 2015 18: 19 New
              0
              Quote: Per se.
              Putin needs to change such advisers who invent these “leaks” for the media, to the delight of the patriots.

              Campaign You need to take "Putin's chief adviser!"
            4. Aljavad
              Aljavad 13 November 2015 00: 59 New
              0
              a torpedo so far is inextricably linked to a submarine,


              “Status” - “torpedo” in quotation marks. Deepwater controlled vehicle. And the depth is 1000 meters. Is there a PLO?
            5. Black Colonel
              Black Colonel 13 November 2015 13: 49 New
              0
              "... US anti-submarine defense began to be created long before the first ideas on missile defense"
              A protivotorpednoy not yet expected. Well, let the Yankees scratch their turnips than answer this call.
          2. mav1971
            mav1971 13 November 2015 15: 35 New
            0
            Quote: Jack-B
            Well, they make missile defense from missiles, and even think that it will help them. And they have no anti-torpedo defense! )))))))))


            The torpedo such has at least 50 meters of length and, accordingly, this is not quite a torpedo.

            They are already starting to test anti-submarine drones ...
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 12 November 2015 11: 42 New
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          Quote: tomket
          And whom they were going to scare with an atomic torpedo when INTER-CONTINENTAL ROCKETS were not the first ten years on duty.

          laughing Duc against ICBMs was created like a missile defense system, now the amers and other anti-tank missiles will have to do the campaign ... and their lasers are shock-absorbers, hyper-missiles.
          1. tomket
            tomket 12 November 2015 12: 31 New
            -18
            Quote: Corsair
            Duc against ICBMs created like missile defense,

            But what about the Iskanders?))) were blown away?
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 12 November 2015 12: 42 New
              +7
              Quote: tomket
              But what about the Iskanders?))) were blown away?



              And here is the ICBM and Iskander ??? What a bunch ??? We got these Iskander, as a panacea for all ills ...
            2. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 12 November 2015 13: 30 New
              +5
              Come on! Everything is just there, here is some information for consideration. The partners didn’t have time to finish building how they were puzzled for the next 10-15 years, let them drip now, they are spending money on the ocean protection, they are wasting time. This “Status” can be built by no one, will not, as an experienced person will do, they will experience it until better times.
        3. just exp
          just exp 12 November 2015 11: 59 New
          +4
          there the effect is different, only destruction, and the radioactive infection is so-so.
          right there they will hit not so much with an explosion as with a tsunami and cobalt infection.
          1. tomket
            tomket 12 November 2015 12: 31 New
            +3
            Quote: just EXPL
            how much tsunami and cobalt infection.

            And there Cthulhu will wake up .....
        4. atalef
          atalef 12 November 2015 23: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: tomket
          And whom were they going to scare with an atomic torpedo when INTER-CONTINENTAL ROCKETS are not the first ten years on duty

          Here I am about that.
          They do it like this - it was a leak and you need to threaten the media with your fingers, so that they wouldn’t shoot Sov. Secret blueprints from behind Shoigu.
          Although it is perfectly clear why this stuffing was.
          Yes, just to show, like your missile defense is not worth it.
          That's all.
        5. Appraiser
          Appraiser 14 November 2015 09: 20 New
          0
          This project does not scare anyone, this is another way to achieve parity in nuclear weapons soldier ......
      5. 4elovek
        4elovek 12 November 2015 11: 37 New
        17
        Quote: Baikonur
        Yeah, it also seems to me that this is a "type" leak!


        That's right, the other day there was an infa that the "partners" from February 2016 begin testing the crewless anti-submarine ship ... there is an instant reaction: "Cho ship without a crew? Against the boats ?! Yes, to health - we have unmanned boats ! "
      6. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 12 November 2015 11: 43 New
        +4
        an extra reason to think am through life and in fact ...
      7. SibSlavRus
        SibSlavRus 12 November 2015 12: 31 New
        +2
        Exactly like an organized leak. The Americans (the State Department) themselves live and have repeatedly said that all their evidence is from open access and you-tube. Remember psaki?
        And their intelligence services, also along the way, dig information there. Nafig check, it's true! Insidious Russian pierced! laughing
        For no one knows the parameters of the secrecy of the object, and the appearance of secrets will not reveal.
      8. shtanko.49
        shtanko.49 12 November 2015 13: 06 New
        0
        From such an explosion, tectanic plates can "go" and then the Amber to Amer.
      9. Sandov
        Sandov 12 November 2015 23: 07 New
        -2
        In my opinion it is unreasonable to reveal all our secrets. Let the enemy scramble to get them. Here recently mvdeshnika tied, sold homeland Americans.
      10. Doomph
        Doomph 13 November 2015 08: 09 New
        -2
        One hundred percent "drain". If the Americans believe, and they believe, then they are loshpundera. This is the "disa" in the classic form. But perhaps this "disinformation" is also for domestic consumption.
      11. vaschenko07
        vaschenko07 13 November 2015 09: 55 New
        -2
        Someone today for such "leaks" has identified 13 years ............
      12. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 14 November 2015 01: 00 New
        0
        Hi Baikonur! Sly. Do not you think.
      13. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 14 November 2015 21: 29 New
        0
        Quote. "So, think, adversaries! And always - with a normal, human head! And not with the back hemispheres!"
        Mysteries to adversaries you at the expense of "not the rear hemispheres"!
    2. Ai yai
      Ai yai 12 November 2015 11: 05 New
      +2
      yeah! exactly the same thought crept in! Such an exact slide got
      1. just exp
        just exp 12 November 2015 12: 00 New
        -2
        and so they took the secret slide with them to the presentation.
    3. Now we are free
      Now we are free 12 November 2015 11: 06 New
      31
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)


      hi Michael.
      Not just Hinted and NOTIFIED ... I think those responsible for the "leak" have already been submitted to the State. awards.

      PS
      Oh and Bombanet is now on someone on the other side of the ocean ... laughing laughing laughing
      1. Jack-b
        Jack-b 12 November 2015 11: 35 New
        +7
        Quote: Now we are free
        Oh and Bombanet is now on someone on the other side of the ocean ...

        The military budget. For a couple of additional billions or more.
        1. alex-cn
          alex-cn 12 November 2015 12: 18 New
          +3
          At one time, there was information that a several megaton bomb laid at the bottom of one of the faults in the California region (San Andreas?), And outside the territorial waters of the United States, could cause tsunamis and earthquakes that would almost completely destroy the country's western coast. And they have most of the production there.
        2. Manul
          Manul 12 November 2015 15: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: Jack-B
          The military budget. For a couple of additional billions or more.

          Of course. Now I need to invent an underwater laser-chaser.
      2. leon17
        leon17 12 November 2015 13: 03 New
        18
        If the Chinese said that they would create a new weapon, then they would create it.
        If the Americans said that they would create a new weapon, then they are already creating it.
        If the Russians said that they would create a new weapon, then they had already created it.
    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain 12 November 2015 11: 06 New
      17
      Not only subtly hinted, but also warned overseas hawks that they would not crow much, otherwise there will be an answer.
    5. sannych
      sannych 12 November 2015 11: 07 New
      77
      Taking this opportunity, conveyed fiery greetings to “our Western partners”!
    6. SPACE
      SPACE 12 November 2015 11: 10 New
      10
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)

      And there is. The idea itself probably originates from the S-Sakharov torpedo T-15. Now it will be necessary to call the strategic nuclear forces not a triad, but a nuclear quartet.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 November 2015 11: 31 New
        12
        Horseradish would have let the press go there, they just leaked something and maybe even desu, and let the Pentagon scratch it.
        1. avdkrd
          avdkrd 12 November 2015 12: 50 New
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Horseradish would have let the press go there, they just leaked something and maybe even desu, and let the Pentagon scratch it.

          Yes, everything was in the know at the Pentagon, the leak was organized for the Western media - we expect a massive migration of residents of the coastal zone in the United States, where the British will not know how to migrate. We stock up on popcorn and monitor the reaction.
        2. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 12 November 2015 13: 16 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Horseradish would have let the press go there, they just leaked something and maybe even desu, and let the Pentagon scratch it.

          Allegedly not a big leak of information ... Shake the creatures!
      2. just exp
        just exp 12 November 2015 12: 05 New
        +3
        it will still be a triad, because torpedoes are part of the marine component.
        and if we take just weapons, and not carriers, it will not even be sextet or octet, it will be much more, because there are still vigorous bonbs, the same artillery shells, the same artmines and sea mines, black suitcases xs what else.
      3. PQ-18
        PQ-18 12 November 2015 12: 14 New
        +1
        QUARTET, if in space constantly “something” will fly ...
    7. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 11: 12 New
      +9
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)

      for sure ... yesfrom a private meeting leak ... yeah ...
    8. Good me
      Good me 12 November 2015 11: 18 New
      11
      Sands about the "exposure" of secret data on the "Status-6": "We hope that this will not happen again."


      laughing laughing laughing

      We know, we, we know ... And I’m barking, "so not to the article "lit up" SOMETHING,were awarded punished by three weeks rest hard labor in the mines Mediterranean beaches yes .
    9. Vend
      Vend 12 November 2015 11: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)

      Maybe the journalists accidentally worked, or maybe they paid them for it. Or maybe just draining desa for Western intelligence. Like the star wars program. Won the USA are going to build a 5 generation submarine. If it turns out the same as a fighter, it will be funny. Expensive and does not swim.
      1. Good me
        Good me 12 November 2015 11: 50 New
        +8
        Quote: Wend
        Won the USA are going to build a 5 generation submarine. If it turns out the same as a fighter, it will be funny. Expensive and does not swim.


        On Twitter, will float yes .
    10. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 12 November 2015 11: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)

      He knew who needed it.) This is most likely a “leak” to the public, saying that a missile defense is not a guarantee of your safety and it’s better to be friends than to fight.) Well, otherwise such a surprise can come up.)
    11. Maj.
      Maj. 12 November 2015 11: 37 New
      -19
      On horseradish generally say that there is, what will be and what to calm the enemy. Dance Russia and cry Europe, but I have the most ... GLORY to Putin.
      1. Good me
        Good me 12 November 2015 12: 33 New
        +6
        Quote: major
        Dance RUSSIA and cry Europe, and I have the most ... GLORY to Putin.


        Putin, of course, has something for which it is possible and necessary "sprinkle" ...

        BUT THIS IS NOT THE CASE. stop
    12. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 12 November 2015 11: 38 New
      +2
      Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)


      not subtly hinted ... at thick circumstances ... repeat
      1. interceptor58
        interceptor58 12 November 2015 13: 24 New
        0
        To everyone who has access to the seas and oksiyan!
    13. Scoun
      Scoun 12 November 2015 11: 56 New
      +1
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)

      Quote: Baikonur
      I also think that this is a "type" leak!

      Quote: Jack-B
      As I understand it, the intelligence of our potential partners works so badly that the "leak" had to be organized through the media.

      And for all this to work, the press secretary of the Head of the State of Sands would surely have acted with voice acting. )))
      IMHA here could "get off" the press secretary of the Moscow Region. )))
      1. ver_
        ver_ 12 November 2015 12: 12 New
        0
        ... you might think that Peskov is empowered to know the secrets of the defense department ...
        1. PQ-18
          PQ-18 12 November 2015 12: 17 New
          +1
          Peskov is endowed with serious powers ...
          this is not for you psaki!
    14. sannych
      sannych 12 November 2015 11: 58 New
      11
      The hint should be understood.
    15. Siberian1965
      Siberian1965 12 November 2015 12: 03 New
      +2
      Now, I do not believe in flare. Rather, they showed the holster to the gopnik.
    16. andre
      andre 12 November 2015 12: 03 New
      +3
      By the way, I can tell a huge secret. These devices can sail, lie down under the ice cap, closer to Canada. Lie a year, and then when you need to surface and ... BOOM !!!
    17. rpek32
      rpek32 12 November 2015 12: 30 New
      -11
      Think what you want, but as for me it’s an attempt to distract from the Boeing. There, a bomb looms at the investigation, which means a terrorist attack.
    18. oleq197429
      oleq197429 12 November 2015 13: 20 New
      +1
      Let now PTORO build on their beaches
    19. Shuttle
      Shuttle 12 November 2015 13: 40 New
      12
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)

      Peskov is beautiful! He answered so that
      1. Not reported a single byte of new information.
      2. She can always say later that “We never had this object at all”
      3. She can always say later that “We always had it, but we didn’t want to show anyone”
      4. She can always say later that "Well, we warned you too"

      In general, secret documents cannot be taken out of the 1 department just like that. Even the ministers of defense.
      And they do not look at all as a visual aid on the wall of the classroom.

      If they got into the frame (and at what a wonderful angle!), Then someone decided that they could get there.

      By the way, they perfectly reminded the Americans of the “ingenious” invention of Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov. Because it was not he who invented the thermonuclear bomb, but the whole team in which he also worked. But the cannibalistic idea of ​​a thermonuclear torpedo under the coast of the United States - it really is.
    20. vodolaz
      vodolaz 12 November 2015 19: 46 New
      +2
      Was there a boy?) I think it was a deliberate flare))) We remember some missiles that showed in the parade what made the Americans develop a dead end)))
    21. Nick
      Nick 13 November 2015 15: 52 New
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      Hinted :)

      Not without reason hinted. We see some kind of information received about the upcoming machinations of overseas "comrades"
    22. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 14 November 2015 01: 04 New
      0
      Misha, they didn’t hint, but highlighted.
    23. wartex
      wartex 14 November 2015 19: 07 New
      0
      Hinted :)

      Well, yes, for any tricky w ... pu, there is a trickier .. uh!
  2. rubidiy
    rubidiy 12 November 2015 11: 03 New
    14
    more like "hinted" than "lit up." :)
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  4. alex-cn
    alex-cn 12 November 2015 11: 04 New
    15
    I am sure that such information definitely could not leave without permission ...
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 12 November 2015 11: 52 New
      +1
      I am sure that such information definitely couldn’t leave without permission ... ,, oh well, leaked, so leaked.
  5. Socialism 2.0
    Socialism 2.0 12 November 2015 11: 04 New
    12
    Trollolo western partners ... By chance does not happen at this level.
  6. 123321
    123321 12 November 2015 11: 05 New
    53

    Purpose: Defeat important enemy economic facilities in the coastal area and inflict guaranteed unacceptable damage on the territory of the country by creating zones of extensive radioactive contamination unsuitable for long-term military, economic, economic and other activities in these zones. "

    Commentary on "Status 6" and unacceptable damage. The view, in my opinion, is quite reasonable. I will bring him in full.

    "The approach here is completely different. It is based on burning and infecting all ports on the US coast. There are not so many of them - I know only 17 pieces, and not all of them can accept large ocean vessels. This will automatically create the USA insurmountable problems in logistics during the war in Europe, and in obtaining resources from the occupied territories.

    Do you understand the idea? The US lives off imports. Imports go by ships. Kill the ports - and that’s it, all the economic power of the USA is over, and for decades to come.

    This is, in fact, a relatively humane decision. It does not imply genocide of the US population — it does imply the logistical isolation of the continent and the leveling of its advantages in the navy. A fleet without home ports is a one-time piece of iron. "
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 12 November 2015 11: 15 New
      10
      Quote: 123321
      Commentary on "Status-6" and unacceptable damage. The view, in my opinion, is quite reasonable.

      ... This along the way - AND SHAH AND MAT!

      Firstly, the idea of ​​the “Status” is realizable once and twice: the principles of unmanned submarines are already there and tested, the charge of such power is also realized.
      Secondly - not so expensive.
      Thirdly, 3,14ndos will need to turn out like this (and shake out ALL the power) in order to at least put something in opposition to protect their islands ...
      1. Y34Gagarin
        Y34Gagarin 12 November 2015 11: 33 New
        +2
        Build missile defense in Europe? Here is the asymmetric answer - an underwater torpedo reaching a depth of 1 km. I missed something pavda. And which submarine can dive to such a depth?
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 12 November 2015 11: 57 New
          +4
          Quote: Y34Gagarin
          I missed something pavda. And which submarine can dive to such a depth?

          Pavda-pavda ... We had such, though for a long time ... "The Komsomolets submarine, which still holds the world record for diving at 1032 m," link: http://www.opoccuu.com/070411.htm
        2. just exp
          just exp 12 November 2015 12: 06 New
          +5
          why should a boat dive to such a depth? at this depth is a torpedo, not a submarine.
        3. ARES623
          ARES623 12 November 2015 12: 12 New
          +4
          Quote: Y34Gagarin
          I missed something pavda. And which submarine can dive to such a depth?

          The submarine, about which the Pentagon was interested, will only withdraw this "thing" from the port into neutral waters. And then "she" herself will find a place "according to the approved plan", because it is not just a torpedo, but a nuclear submarine unmanned vehicle, according to what they let know. He will have to go into hibernation until a certain signal is given through a safe channel. Moreover, there are technologically no insoluble problems, the product is quite accessible to our level. I think so...
          1. iConst
            iConst 12 November 2015 13: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: ARES623
            He will have to go into hibernation until a certain signal is given through a safe channel.
            - I think there will also be a function of the "dead hand" - if at some point the vessel does not receive a signal that everything is OK - it will be activated to carry out the combat mission.
      2. Altona
        Altona 12 November 2015 11: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Rus2012
        Firstly, the idea of ​​the “Status” is realizable once and twice: the principles of unmanned submarines are already there and tested, the charge of such power is also realized.

        -------------------------
        Unmanned deep-sea vehicle ... Wanted a war with drones? Get ...
      3. hrych
        hrych 12 November 2015 11: 46 New
        +8
        Another carrier of the nuclear submarine Belgorod is being completed, Khabarovsk has been laid down, the diesel Sarov is testing an air-independent installation, and again, this device can be launched from dry cargo ships. In addition to the eastern, Atlantic coast of the United States, where their main political and economic centers are located, we have the evil center of the British Isles and Holland, which is below sea level, as well as the sunken aircraft carrier Japan with its god emperor, as well as bases on islands such as Guam and others The same China, if anything, has a critical crowd on the coast. Self-propelled Kuzkina grandmother will be extremely effective against all our "partners". And even more precisely, this will apparently create precisely an artificial tsunami, because it was the kilometer that was the calculated depth when we simulated this scenario.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 12 November 2015 12: 56 New
          0
          Quote: hrych
          Self-propelled Kuzkina grandmother


          Yeah great granddaughter, probably...

          And so yes ... From a depth of 1 km such a vigorous land mine to explode - well, what layers of water will come into motion ...

          PS Only if you explode at such a depth, will the radioactive contamination be as predicted ???
          1. hrych
            hrych 12 November 2015 13: 10 New
            +1
            It's about solidity laughing mother was 50, and then for 100 and more megatons ... When flushing cities, radiation is secondary, especially since the explosion itself is carried out at a distance from the coast and the wave does not carry material, but transfers the oscillation according to the propagation of waves.
            1. hrych
              hrych 12 November 2015 13: 21 New
              +1
              Like this
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 12 November 2015 21: 49 New
              0
              From a thermonuclear bomb of 100 megatons, radioactive contamination will be minimal.
          2. Wedmak
            Wedmak 12 November 2015 13: 13 New
            -1
            From a depth of 1 km such a vigorous landmine to explode - what kind of water layers will come into motion ...

            Yes, there are questions, a wagon and a trolley. It can also explode, but what will we see on the surface? And will we see? A kilometer of water, this is not khukh-mukhra. 100 atmospheric pressure, dense medium, dark (light does not go further than 160 meters). Maybe we won’t even see a flash, or a column of water, or even bubbles. So, a slight excitement will run through with a boom and all.
            1. WUS 068
              WUS 068 12 November 2015 13: 56 New
              -1
              Firstly, a kilometer of water is 1000 atmospheres. And in the epicenter of the atomic - hundreds of millions. Something like this
              1. Senior manager
                Senior manager 12 November 2015 14: 55 New
                +4
                A kilometer of water is still 100 atm.
              2. Wedmak
                Wedmak 12 November 2015 15: 02 New
                +1
                Firstly, a kilometer of water is 1000 atmospheres

                Well, firstly, diving on 10 meters gives you an added atmosphere in 1. Divide 1000 meters by 10, get 100.
                And in the epicenter of the atomic - hundreds of millions.

                Atomic epicenter, this is a very small such cloud of plasma, 50 meters across. Further, the plasma is scattered and gases and unreacted explosion products appear. But this is of course a theory, but the fact is that no one exploded a nuclear weapon at such a depth.
                Here is the layout of the explosion at a depth of 610 meters with the exit of the bubble.


                Read on the wiki. Everything will not be as scary as it seems. The main limiter of the explosion power is just the depth.
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D

                0%B9_%D1%8F%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%B2%D0%B7%D1%80%D1%8B%D0%B2
                1. Rus2012
                  Rus2012 12 November 2015 18: 45 New
                  0
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  Here is the layout of the explosion at a depth of 610 meters with the exit of the bubble.

                  ... it all depends on where to explode.
                  Even in an air blast (up to 3km) there is a so-called amplified reflected wave effect, which up to 2 times increases the radius of the shock wave.

                  In the case of an underwater / surface explosion there is a so-called tsunami effect from gravitational waves.
                  It depends on the topography of the bottom. It usually decreases towards the shore. Therefore, blowing up at a certain distance from the coast, you can call super tsunami, with a wave height of hundreds of meters
                2. hrych
                  hrych 12 November 2015 18: 52 New
                  +1
                  The Kuz'kina’s mother’s diameter of the plasma ball was 10 kilometers, the mushroom rose 70 km, the top of the hat nearly 100 km, and a seismic wave circled the planet three times. So, if you undermine the luminous region at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, it will undoubtedly reach the surface, especially since the mother had a calculated charge of 50 mt and then exceeded the estimated charge by almost 10 mt, and in the 100 mt variant we would expect an increase of at least 20 mt, i.e. 120, although here arithmetic is arbitrary and the plasma ball would have been even larger. And if your link refers to 100 tons of charges, here we have 000 tons of charges.
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 12 November 2015 20: 33 New
                    +3
                    Quote: hrych
                    The Kuz'kina mother’s diameter of the plasma ball was 10 kilometers, the “mushroom” rose 70 km, the top of the “hat” nearly 100 km, and a seismic wave circled the planet three times. So, if you undermine at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, the luminous region will no doubt reach the surface

                    Here we must also take into account the environment of the explosion, the water will be denser, so the diameter of the plasma ball is unlikely to be larger, rather, smaller. But this is absolutely not fundamental. There, by the way, the picture is only for 30 Ktn and 610 m deep.
                    With the explosion of 100 Mt of coast, the khan from the wave alone will definitely come - I completely agree with you.
                  2. Stelth1985
                    Stelth1985 13 November 2015 05: 54 New
                    +1
                    Do you know why the king-bombs didn’t detonate later? Because when the power of the ammunition reaches 5 Mt, phenomena are manifested to which science has not yet found answers, because it is afraid to repeat. The Earth’s onospheric grid breaks through, space changes at the subatomic level, and time warps. There are known cases of a decrease in the Earth's gravity in the regions of explosions, as well as the attenuation of radio waves and sound vibrations. That is, an explosion of more than 5 Mt leads to a violation of the laws of the Universe in the field of the structure of matter and space, plus a temporary continuum. Such power affects the very structure of the Ether, which forms everything around. Therefore, categorically it is impossible to explode such ammunition power.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 13 November 2015 11: 14 New
                      +2
                      To put it another way, there is a chance that a chain reaction will occur in the ocean water and then, well, everything is clear ... Cousin’s mother was an air explosion at an altitude of 4 km above the surface, but the plasma ball - the luminous region of the explosion had a radius of more than almost 5 km and if not for the reflected shock wave, which crushed the bottom of the fireball and threw it from the ground. Thanks to this, the explosion would remain in the air category, and if it touched the earth, it would fall into the ground category, contaminated soil would rise tens of kilometers, through high-altitude streams (10 km) it would spread throughout the planet, and along the cloud of dust to it precipitation everything would have been poisoned. Those. theoretical modeling was wrong and only a miracle (albeit scientific) helped to avoid monstrous consequences. Those. it is necessary to detonate at an altitude of at least 10 km, and as there is an excess of the calculated one, but under ten and fifty, at that time it was for the Tu-95 carrier - a ceiling of 10-11, from which they dropped it, but we still have to have time to wash off ... That is at that time, an air explosion under 100 mt was technically impossible, and the underwater and ground with terrible consequences were scary, they stopped like that ... It’s easier now, but it’s not clear how water will behave, say ... Therefore, such a charge to test in space, we will find the carrier, the proton will cope ...
                    2. mav1971
                      mav1971 13 November 2015 15: 52 New
                      -1
                      Quote: Stelth1985
                      Do you know why the king-bombs didn’t detonate later? Because when the power of the ammunition reaches 5 Mt, phenomena are manifested to which science has not yet found answers, because it is afraid to repeat. The Earth’s onospheric grid breaks through, space changes at the subatomic level, and time warps. There are known cases of a decrease in the Earth's gravity in the regions of explosions, as well as the attenuation of radio waves and sound vibrations. That is, an explosion of more than 5 Mt leads to a violation of the laws of the Universe in the field of the structure of matter and space, plus a temporary continuum. Such power affects the very structure of the Ether, which forms everything around. Therefore, categorically it is impossible to explode such ammunition power.


                      Oh...
                      Yes, because the real striking effect of the 58 megaton bomb was not at all what was expected.
                      And it made no sense to fence such monsters.
                      The structure of Ether, yeah ... the curvature of time ... finally super-duper term ...
                      The structure of the glass should be considered less ... lol
                3. andj61
                  andj61 12 November 2015 20: 27 New
                  0
                  Quote: Wedmak
                  Atomic epicenter, this is a very small such cloud of plasma, 50 meters across. Further, the plasma is scattered and gases and unreacted explosion products appear. But this is of course a theory, but the fact is that no one exploded a nuclear weapon at such a depth.
                  Here is the layout of the explosion at a depth of 610 meters with the exit of the bubble.

                  You look carefully - this layout is only for a charge of only 30 kTn! And we are talking about a charge 3300 times more powerful - 100 Mtn. Accordingly, the layout will be completely different !. There will be no disruption of the air bubble, but there will be a continuous vapor-air medium with a plasma ball not in 50 m, but in kilometers, in reality - about 3-4 km.
                  And at the same time a powerful tsunami occurs ..
                4. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 12 November 2015 21: 52 New
                  0
                  We will see the nuclear sultan, only he will be kilometers under 100.
                  1. mav1971
                    mav1971 13 November 2015 16: 46 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    We will see the nuclear sultan, only he will be kilometers under 100.


                    Not...
                    Water will fly away to Mars and gardens will bloom on Mars!

                    Kindergarten! lol
                5. I am
                  I am 13 November 2015 22: 03 New
                  0
                  Such things are not read on the wiki. and in textbooks on nuclear physics. There, by the way, and formulas for modeling are available. And the mat model can be drawn on them and understood. What will happen.
      4. Cube123
        Cube123 12 November 2015 12: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: Rus2012
        Quote: 123321
        Commentary on "Status-6" and unacceptable damage. The view, in my opinion, is quite reasonable.

        ... This along the way - AND SHAH AND MAT!

        This is not SHAH and MAT - this is the last threat. Just because others, including us, will get it. The Gulf Stream will briskly bring all waste to our northern seas.
    2. andj61
      andj61 12 November 2015 11: 36 New
      +5
      Quote: 123321
      This is, in fact, a relatively humane decision. It does not imply genocide of the US population — it does imply the logistical isolation of the continent and the leveling of its advantages in the navy. A fleet without home ports is a one-time piece of iron. "

      One can agree with this comment, but the question is third and somewhat different. Depth of movement - 1km, range - up to 10 000km. (is this taking into account the course of the submarine or not?), the charge is up to 100 (?) megatons. Now imagine - in the ocean, at a depth of a kilometer, kilometers 100-200 from the coast - it doesn’t matter - such a powerful charge explodes. The resulting wave is comparable in height to the depth of the charge explosion in the ocean, which means it will be 600-700 meters. During the passage, the wave will drop a little, but still there will be oh, what a rather big one! And this wave - even 100 m, in reality will be 300 meters high - crashes on the coast. Given that the mass of urban infrastructure in the United States is much lower compared to ocean level, this will be a real apocalypse for the population too, not only for ports. The coastal cities will simply be washed away - both on the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. And if you find a place in the Gulf of Mexico, then the wave will not pass through the Mississippi, especially if you recall the results of the natural cataclysm in N. Orleans. The same method must be applied against Europe - otherwise the ships can be served at other ports. And all the ships that the wave will catch near the coast, on the shelf, etc., can be safely entered into irrevocable losses.
      1. Jack-b
        Jack-b 12 November 2015 11: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: andj61
        And this wave - even 100 m, in reality will be 300 meters high

        Something that gnaws at me. Wave in 100 m lift and drag it 100km? You may ask: where did such calculations come from?
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 12 November 2015 11: 57 New
          0
          Quote: Jack-B
          Something that gnaws at me. Wave in 100 m lift and drag it 100km? You may ask: where did such calculations come from?

          what if there is no good elevation (mountain hills), deep gorges along the wave path, the wave itself will go downhill and may even go 100 km or more, here is an example of a dam breaking in China https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0 % 94% D0% B0% D0% BC% D0% B1% D0% B0_% D0% 91% D0% B0% D0% BD%
          D1%8C%D1%86%D1%8F%D0%BE
        2. V.ic
          V.ic 12 November 2015 12: 02 New
          0
          Quote: Jack-B
          You may ask: where did such calculations come from?

          Turn to Boston to the heirs of E. Bonner.
        3. bulvas
          bulvas 12 November 2015 12: 02 New
          -1
          Quote: Jack-B
          Quote: andj61
          And this wave - even 100 m, in reality will be 300 meters high

          Something that gnaws at me. Wave in 100 m lift and drag it 100km? You may ask: where did such calculations come from?


          Even if 10 m and 10 km

          The water is radioactive, so the territory will be contaminated with all water bodies. Rivers and groundwater will carry it all further

          You can launch several of these torpedoes

          1. andj61
            andj61 12 November 2015 12: 55 New
            0
            Quote: bulvas
            Even if 10 m and 10 km

            10 km - the tsunami will not work. Exploding on the continental shelf makes no sense, there water evaporates in this place, but a big wave does not work. It is necessary to explode at a depth of about 1 km or a little deeper - then the wave will be optimal.
            To destroy the infrastructure of the Atlantic coast of the USA and Canada, 4-5 charges are enough, besides, Europe will get a little, the Pacific - 2-3 charges, well, one - to the Gulf of Mexico.
            1. Dmitry Donskoy
              Dmitry Donskoy 13 November 2015 19: 28 New
              0
              I think one "pill" will be enough
        4. andj61
          andj61 12 November 2015 12: 46 New
          +3
          Quote: Jack-B
          Something that gnaws at me. Wave in 100 m lift and drag it 100km? You may ask: where did such calculations come from?

          A wave arises at a depth - a mass of water evaporates - water rushes there - a wave arises. But the wavelength at a depth is very large - it is not very noticeable either. When approaching shallow water, the continental shelf, the wave “swells”, its length becomes smaller, its height is greater. A very decent shaft is already crashing onto the shore. Everything is the same as with the tsunami: in the open sea, tsunamis are not even noticeable, and near the coast - it blows everything away.
          And about distances - the last tsunami in the Indian Ocean - Indonesia, Thailand, Sri Lanka, the coast of India, and even - to a lesser extent - the coast of Africa, suffered. This is the distance from 200 to 2000 km. And the wave there was less than 20 m.
          1. mav1971
            mav1971 13 November 2015 16: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: andj61
            Quote: Jack-B
            Something that gnaws at me. Wave in 100 m lift and drag it 100km? You may ask: where did such calculations come from?

            A wave arises at a depth - a mass of water evaporates - water rushes there - a wave arises. But the wavelength at a depth is very large - it is not very noticeable either. When approaching shallow water, the continental shelf, the wave “swells”, its length becomes smaller, its height is greater. A very decent shaft is already crashing onto the shore. Everything is the same as with the tsunami: in the open sea, tsunamis are not even noticeable, and near the coast - it blows everything away.
            And about distances - the last tsunami in the Indian Ocean - Indonesia, Thailand, Sri Lanka, the coast of India, and even - to a lesser extent - the coast of Africa, suffered. This is the distance from 200 to 2000 km. And the wave there was less than 20 m.


            The wave there was from 3 to 15 meters depending on the distance.
            The energy released by the 5 earthquake exajoules, which is equal to the 1 Gigatonne trinitrotoluene.
            Given that, what is the dynamic effect of TNT. 20-30% stronger than its nuclear equivalent, we get that the energy of the Indian earthquake, the landmark 1.3, is gmgaton. Which is 13 times the 100 megaton wunderwafer.
            Plus internal core energy loss in the water column.
            Accordingly, the screams about super-high in 100, 400, 700 meter wave are for idiots.
            15-30 meters limit.
      2. ZKB
        ZKB 12 November 2015 11: 50 New
        +5
        will wash off? Well, to hell with them.
      3. WUS 068
        WUS 068 12 November 2015 14: 05 New
        0
        Although the wave power decreases in proportion to the square of the distance, but do not forget that as you approach the shore, the depth decreases. Due to which the height and speed of the wave increase. Do you understand the conservation law? Well, about the estuaries, I’m completely silent.
    3. ARES623
      ARES623 12 November 2015 12: 04 New
      +8
      Quote: 123321
      It does not imply genocide of the US population — it does imply the logistical isolation of the continent and the leveling of its advantages in the navy. A fleet without home ports is a one-time piece of iron. "

      That's right, no genocide. Just the east coast of the United States to a depth of 600 km (and this is no less than half the population and most of the production infrastructure) will be washed away, as if into a sewer. When the water leaves, then, of course, the logistics will be "not very", because the survivors will have to get to the ports 500-600 km through the mountains of "fragrant" corpses and construction waste, without roads and electricity. Yes, and there will be nothing special to drive ... Very humane ... :-)))
    4. PQ-18
      PQ-18 12 November 2015 12: 24 New
      +3
      WHAT devilishly insidious the plan for "taking the city of Paris" you drew for us!
      crying
    5. NIKNN
      NIKNN 12 November 2015 19: 55 New
      +2
      123321 (1) SU Today, 11:05 AM

      Purpose: Defeat important enemy economic facilities in the coastal area and inflict guaranteed unacceptable damage on the territory of the country by creating zones of extensive radioactive contamination unsuitable for long-term military, economic, economic and other activities in these zones. "

      Commentary on "Status 6" and unacceptable damage. The view, in my opinion, is quite reasonable. I will bring him in full.

      "The approach here is completely different. It is based on burning and infecting all ports on the US coast. There are not so many of them - I know only 17 pieces, and not all of them can accept large ocean vessels. This will automatically create the USA insurmountable problems in logistics during the war in Europe, and in obtaining resources from the occupied territories.

      Do you understand the idea? The US lives off imports. Imports go by ships. Kill the ports - and that’s it, all the economic power of the USA is over, and for decades to come.

      This is, in fact, a relatively humane decision. It does not imply genocide of the US population — it does imply the logistical isolation of the continent and the leveling of its advantages in the navy. A fleet without home ports is a one-time piece of iron. "


      Everything is very logical and somehow more than less sounds sensible from the point of view of the military. good

      But all the same, the option of throwing info is more likely because it is really difficult to create such a weapon (and there is already a TTX request ), and I can’t even imagine the cost of implementing this project. In my opinion, the price will be no less than a hundred railway complexes with the latest BR, I think they can (with a massive simultaneous attack) not only demolish 17 ports on the coast, but also decommission a dozen airbases. request
    6. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 13 November 2015 07: 12 New
      +1
      Hi!!. Absolutely true. Even then, when the range of sea missiles was only 300-500 km, such an option was considered as targets. What to hide in the 60s, our naval component was much inferior to the United States. The USSR Navy was much inferior in combat potential to the US Navy. Yes, there was such a group scientists proposed a leveling tool for a self-propelled mine to strike on the shelf. Yes, there were tsunamis and much more. Yes, this project was then considered. It is necessary to give credit and the government and the government rejected it. Then, already along the way, many interesting decisions were not made that way. Everything costs money and they were counted as if the authorities were not cursing now and she was calculating the cost of any decision. And the fact that the so-called mass media were laid out has a completely different basis and completely different principles. completely about Losharik and Wicket. This is probably an operating time from there.
  7. Grbear
    Grbear 12 November 2015 11: 05 New
    14
    “The defeat of important enemy economic facilities in the coastal area and the infliction of guaranteed unacceptable damage on the territory of the country by creating zones of extensive radioactive contamination unsuitable for long-term military, economic, economic and other activities in these zones."

    "Highlighted" for the Baltic states, so as not to soar. And the rest - a topic for reflection. Such a Loch Nancy will come out, it will not seem enough. bully
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 12 November 2015 11: 23 New
      +6
      Quote: GrBear
      Loch Nancy

      For Loch Nancy - plus! laughing
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 12 November 2015 11: 36 New
        +8
        Quote: AlexTires
        For Loch Nancy - plus!

        So what kind of submarine the Swedes were looking for the Russian year laughing What can I say, found ... It became easier repeat
        The hint is not ambiguous enough. Moreover, this is not a fabulous SDI, but a completely realizable business (if not already implemented). A good slap in the face of the exceptionalism of the United States. A special thank you for the humor of our office. A sense of humor is a thing that is necessary in such matters. laughing
    2. guzik007
      guzik007 12 November 2015 11: 36 New
      0
      Highlighted for the Balts

      Giggy! Will it be bold? One regiment of the Pskov division is enough.
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 12 November 2015 13: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: guzik007
        One regiment of the Pskov division is enough.



        Um ... No need to quote Pasha Grachev ... He already "took" one city with one regiment ...

        PS And the Lithuanian "forest brothers" at one time brought a lot of grief and misfortune, no worse than the OUN in Ukraine ...
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 12 November 2015 13: 45 New
          +5
          Um ... No need to quote Pasha Grachev ... He already "took" one city with one regiment ...

          I think it is not correct to compare two incomparable differences - where Chechens are and where are the sprats. And of course, I exaggerated a bit, I admit. But the “status” in the Baltic states is the same as to suppress fish in your pool in the yard.
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    3. ARES623
      ARES623 12 November 2015 12: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: GrBear
      "Highlighted" for the Baltic states, so as not to soar.

      I think that this is not for the Baltic states. This is exclusively for the Anglo-Saxons. That is a pity for Scotland. I like their Lafroyg.
    4. Captain green
      Captain green 15 November 2015 11: 19 New
      0
      Do not write heresy! What is the Baltic states? And write down the North-West with Leningrad in "acceptable losses"?
  8. Eternal Disciple
    Eternal Disciple 12 November 2015 11: 06 New
    +4
    Let the flare cool down the hot heads of Fashington. I think this is not the last thing that we can "light up"!
    1. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 13 November 2015 07: 52 New
      +2
      Laughing while reading comments. He completely rejected such a thing even the USSR. What kind of respected bloodthirsty you are. Without knowing the goals and the essence of the decisions that underlie the project, they suddenly began to scare everyone on the site here. What do you think, they’re talking to the President about all kinds of garbage of our Motherland. Apart from the initiates, no one knows what specific task is being solved by this weapon system. and you can discuss only the picture and it will give a lot. maybe this is just a project and the solution will be completely different. Let's wait. After all, by the way, our government practically doesn’t hide anything. If they make a decision, they will definitely announce that such a weapon system has been adopted for the armament of the fleet. By the way, they’ve completely blabbed this picture. it’s not at all what we already know. It’s just that one of the members of the commission said it was the first-born of a large series. If everything you planned and installed showed what is required, then the series will go. Wait a short time before the New Year is not far away. nodes and systems goes as it was laid down in those tasks.
  9. Sly
    Sly 12 November 2015 11: 06 New
    +4
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    Hinted :)

    support
  10. roskot
    roskot 12 November 2015 11: 07 New
    +1
    It is called a warning. Draw conclusions, overseas gentlemen are good.
  11. Horly
    Horly 12 November 2015 11: 08 New
    +4
    It’s just by chance ... With the violation of all regime measures ... Yes, so that the shot doesn’t need to ... "Do not tell my hooves," as the horse Julius said in the film about three heroes !
    1. interceptor58
      interceptor58 12 November 2015 13: 37 New
      +2
      And the poster without details in the upper right corner.
    2. TVM - 75
      TVM - 75 12 November 2015 18: 31 New
      0
      -Moysha, are you awake?
      - Yes, I borrowed money from Khaim and I can’t give it back.
      Knock on the wall
      -Haim, do you hear? Moysha borrowed money from you. So he won’t give them to you.
      - Moysha, sleep peacefully; let Haim toss and turn now.
      Now let the mattresses scratch their heads and toss and turn, what it is and where it comes from.
  12. SERGEY UI
    SERGEY UI 12 November 2015 11: 08 New
    +3
    Wonderful torpedo good , if of course not stuffing, let turnips scratch in the Pentagon now laughing
    1. your1970
      your1970 12 November 2015 12: 38 New
      0
      what is the technical complexity? Let’s not a kilometer, let 700 m, and not 100 megatons, even less, but there will be more of them, and who said that it is necessary to shoot when the war begins? You can take it out in advance ....
    2. veksha50
      veksha50 12 November 2015 13: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: SERGEY UI
      Wonderful torpedo, if of course not stuffing,



      Throwing at this level ??? This is information for consideration ... to "partners" ...
  13. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 12 November 2015 11: 08 New
    11
    "RossSpecVbros" - accidentally lit up like that wink After all, it’s not specifically to show anywhere at a press conference
  14. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 12 November 2015 11: 09 New
    +4
    living in a glass house do not throw stones. but the mattress will not accept the hint and they will not refuse the missile defense.
    time goes by and little changes in the allies - only the army and navy :)
    1. max702
      max702 12 November 2015 11: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: kill the fascist
      living in a glass house do not throw stones. but the mattress will not accept the hint and they will not refuse the missile defense.

      So everyone understands that the missile defense system is by no means air defense, but medium and short-range launch missiles .. Our S-300 has exactly the same concept and therefore Israel was piling boiling water against deliveries to Syria and Iran, since the wretched crafts of rocket science in these countries there are chances to shoot down, but there is no S-300 missile ..
  15. vladim.gorbunow
    vladim.gorbunow 12 November 2015 11: 10 New
    +1
    Looks like Lesin was killed. They didn’t want to talk about watermelon affairs.
  16. MolGro
    MolGro 12 November 2015 11: 11 New
    14
    It remains to find out about the rest) "Status-1", "Status-2", "Status-3", "Status-4
    "," Status 5 "!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 11: 14 New
      +8
      Quote: MolGro
      It remains to find out about the rest) "Status-1", "Status-2", "Status-3", "Status-4

      "," Status 5 "!

      they are on their way ...
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 12 November 2015 13: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        they are on their way ...



        Nah ... Not on the road, but have long taken positions ...
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 11: 43 New
      +7
      Quote: MolGro
      It remains to find out about the rest) "Status-1", "Status-2", "Status-3", "Status-4

      "," Status 5 "!

      If there is Status-6, then the previous 5 have already been implemented. At the Pentagon they frantically run around social networks, looking for at least some kind of info about it (they don’t have other sources) laughing
      TTX of such MOM torpedoes I think is very exceptional, both in terms of warheads and speed, etc. .. I won’t be surprised if this “baby” can fly as well. NATO is a good obscenity. laughing
      1. Cube123
        Cube123 12 November 2015 12: 43 New
        +5
        Most importantly, it does not fall under missile agreements. Again we act purely in the legal field. wink
      2. andj61
        andj61 12 November 2015 12: 59 New
        +6
        Quote: NEXUS
        If there is a Status-6, then the previous 5 are already implemented.

        Or there were none at all - but let them think and look, get nervous!
        This is like an old story by Zadornov about how Russian children launched three piglets into an American school, numbered them with numbers 1,2 and 4. The police searched for a piglet at number 3 for a week! bully
        And here such "piglets" as many as 5!
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 12 November 2015 13: 05 New
          +3
          Quote: andj61
          Or there were none at all - but let them think and look, get nervous!
          This is like an old story by Zadornov about how Russian children launched three piglets into an American school, numbered them with numbers 1,2 and 4. The police searched for a piglet at number 3 for a week!
          And here such "piglets" as many as 5!

          And who knows, maybe there is STATUS-7/8/9 ... what a fantasy field is for striped analysts and scouts. But TWITTER doesn't write about it wink laughing
        2. Zlatik
          Zlatik 14 November 2015 08: 12 New
          0
          Even our children are a hundred times smarter than mattresses! Zadornov, as always, is right for all 100 !!!
    3. dzvero
      dzvero 12 November 2015 12: 21 New
      +3
      If declassified 'Status-6', it is much more interesting who his heirs smile
  17. Indifferent
    Indifferent 12 November 2015 11: 11 New
    +9
    It is a pity that such a secret development became known to a potential enemy. Although something similar was developed by Academician Sakharov in the mid-50s for a submarine of 627 projects. Equipped with a charge of a hundred megatons, such a torpedo can wash off a third of the US territory into the ocean along with factories, houses and steamboats.
    And here no missile defense will help, and it will be even more difficult to detect a torpedo with anti-submarine weapons, especially at a depth of more than a kilometer.
    I can wish success to our scientists. I do not exclude that such a "flare" of the secret was intentional. It is hard to believe that the material from Putin’s office was broadcast without the knowledge of the FSB.
    Now hawkish voices in the United States about the disarming first strike will fall silent, realizing what kind of answer awaits them.
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 12 November 2015 11: 21 New
      +4
      Sakharov died, but his brilliant ideas live and prosper .....
      1. andj61
        andj61 12 November 2015 11: 44 New
        +6
        Quote: AlexTires
        Sakharov died, but his brilliant ideas live and prosper .....

        The man-loving Sakharov suggested mining with hydrogen charges in 30-50 Mtn of the world's oceans and blowing up if necessary by signal. They refused it - charges need to be serviced periodically! Then the stationary deployment of nuclear weapons in the seas and oceans was banned by a treaty, so here is a torpedo, and even one that in itself is a dronesubmarine. Something similar, but with a torpedo with a range of two orders of magnitude less, was already being developed in the USSR when they designed an atomic boat with ONE tsar-torpedo.
    2. guzik007
      guzik007 12 November 2015 11: 38 New
      +3
      We will wait for the names of the involved zhurnalyug to appear in the list of nominees "Golden Pen of Russia", nothing else.
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    4. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 12 November 2015 11: 42 New
      0
      Quote: indifferent
      It is hard to believe that the material from Putin’s office was broadcast without the knowledge of the FSB.

      NTV is one of the most odious channels on our television. It brought up the traitorous journalist of Russia E. Kiselev, who is now pouring mud on Russia from Ukraine.
      Modern IT technologies have reached a very high level in terms of data transmission by spy methods. Any camera can now write with transmission over the network.
      But the military ranks, boasting some news to the journalists, are definitely traitors to the Motherland. They are someone who pulls the tongue in the presence of strangers.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 12 November 2015 12: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Алексей_К
        But the military ranks, boasting some news to the journalists, are definitely traitors to the Motherland.

        Well, about to deprive them of cognac rations and declare a very strict reprimand with registration on the buttocks ...
      2. ARES623
        ARES623 12 November 2015 12: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Алексей_К
        NTV is one of the most odious channels on our television. It brought up the traitorous journalist of Russia E. Kiselev, who is now pouring mud on Russia from Ukraine.

        The mass of traitors Kalugin, Mitrokhin, Yuzhin, Rezun left the KGB. There are many of them. Well now and on all the other Chekists tar pour? On correctly you reason. And then, the leak was quite controllable, not exactly subtle, but still ... Bluffing sometimes helps to win. And Putin has already proved that he likes to use "indirect actions" in working with "partners." One ruble devaluation is worth it!
      3. guzik007
        guzik007 12 November 2015 12: 42 New
        -1
        But the military ranks, boasting some news to the journalists, are definitely traitors to the Motherland. They are someone who pulls the tongue in the presence of strangers.

        Think too straightforwardly, Uv. opponent. 10500 for a controlled throw.
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      5. interceptor58
        interceptor58 12 November 2015 13: 44 New
        0
        There are no outside journalists at the president’s meeting. Any recording prior to airing is specifically verified. Now this is very strict, this is not 90.
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 15 November 2015 19: 18 New
          0
          Quote: interceptor58
          There are no outside journalists at the president’s meeting. Any recording prior to airing is specifically verified. Now this is very strict, this is not 90.

          Reading your commentary (and other readers), in captivity you begin to think that you all play specifically in the hands of our enemies. All the time you tell the Americans that this is a special stuffing of information and you do not need to believe this. Well, try hard.
    5. ARES623
      ARES623 12 November 2015 12: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: indifferent
      It is a pity that such a secret development became known to a potential enemy.

      The expectation of death is worse than death itself ...
  18. Free Cossack
    Free Cossack 12 November 2015 11: 12 New
    +5
    Inadvertently showed exactly what "inadvertently" wanted to show. wink
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 November 2015 11: 15 New
    +5
    secret weapon system data revealed

    Nevertheless, the idea suggests itself that this was done by agreement and broadcast, as information for consideration for the West. The work of the media at such events is too regulated. Yes, and you can lose the opportunity to cover such events in the future.
  20. Engineer
    Engineer 12 November 2015 11: 18 New
    +5
    Sakharov’s case lives on! I’m not talking about Sakharov - a humanist, well, you understand me)
  21. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 12 November 2015 11: 20 New
    11
    This little thing is for San Andreas and San Josinto.
  22. AlexTires
    AlexTires 12 November 2015 11: 21 New
    +4
    When the “partners” have doubts about “are we theirs, or are they us?”, A “leak of information” accidentally falls onto the scales and doubts instantly disappear ... This is also another hint to American intelligence. Like, how do you work that you yourself have to show secret documents! laughing
  23. Flinky
    Flinky 12 November 2015 11: 24 New
    +5
    Accidents are not accidental.
    1. FIREMAN
      FIREMAN 12 November 2015 12: 35 New
      +5
      To paraphrase: chance is an unknown regularity!
      Concerning the "light": at such events, all the captured material is viewed after shooting by representatives of the relevant services.
      From the point of view of expediency of "light". There are three types of situations favorable, neutral and unfavorable. The last two do not affect the result that they want to get in the end. To translate them into favorable conditions, certain targeted actions are needed. Thus, the "light" is focused and intended:
      1. To indicate "partners" to their helplessness in the present and near future;
      2. The growth of unforeseen huge investments in the development of counteraction systems with an incomprehensible effect (it is still impossible to prevent 100%);
      3. Not weak pressure lever (who said that this system does not exist yet?);
      4. The missile defense system has essentially become a bunch of expensive metal and is capable of leveling only part of the "answer."
  24. BOB044
    BOB044 12 November 2015 11: 26 New
    -4
    Journalists need to include brains at such meetings. Before feeding the material.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 12 November 2015 11: 33 New
      +1
      Often there is nothing to include.
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    3. Wolka
      Wolka 12 November 2015 11: 41 New
      0
      first of all, brains should be included for those responsible for the security of the event in general and for the possible leakage of information in particular ...
  25. morpogr
    morpogr 12 November 2015 11: 27 New
    11
    The next time you need to highlight the scheme of the "death star" so that the Americans finally disorder of the brain happened. laughing
    1. Jack-b
      Jack-b 12 November 2015 11: 44 New
      +5
      What's the point? Americans already know how to deal with it. In films, everything about this has already been shown. They are not afraid of the death star.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 12 November 2015 12: 01 New
        +1
        We will weld a grid of reinforcement into this shaft! laughing
        I wonder why this device (not the Death Star) is positioned as a radio logical weapon? To reinforce "humanism" - do not even count on easy death? what
      2. Corsair
        Corsair 12 November 2015 12: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: Jack-B
        What's the point? Americans already know how to deal with it. In films, everything about this has already been shown. They are not afraid of the death star.

        wassat and dzhezhay they have already prepared?
        1. snifer
          snifer 12 November 2015 14: 25 New
          0
          Naturally, they are called cyborgs))
  26. Lenin
    Lenin 12 November 2015 11: 33 New
    +1
    SPECIAL SPECIAL SPECIAL SPECIAL INFORMATION ... wassat IN! Let our singers now repeat on Russian radio ... And then cook Peter ...
  27. Oleg1080
    Oleg1080 12 November 2015 11: 34 New
    +3
    This is not a torpedo, but an underwater truck. We will add nuclear waste off the coast of America. laughing
  28. Victor62ru
    Victor62ru 12 November 2015 11: 34 New
    +2
    Any leak is precisely dosed and monitored by the appropriate authorities.
  29. Served once
    Served once 12 November 2015 11: 34 New
    0
    Sakharov is still a Great Scientist! Nothing is forgotten! good From "partners" it is necessary to suck out resources, let these toys be caught on the sea-okiyana.
  30. Gunther
    Gunther 12 November 2015 11: 37 New
    +4
    In the "flare" of secret data on the "Status-6"
    I don’t believe it, rather a promise to the “partners”.
    Status-6 is very reminiscent of a product that was developed by the head design bureau on the subject of the Skif design and experimental design bureau - TsKB MT Rubin (St. Petersburg), the developer of the "product" or the starting device - GRTs im. Makeeva (Miass).
  31. An64
    An64 12 November 2015 11: 38 New
    +5
    Quote: indifferent
    Academician Sakharov developed this in the mid-50s for a submarine of 627 projects.

    Megatons ... Somehow, a nuclear winter
    Quote: 123321
    This will automatically create the United States insurmountable problems in logistics when waging war in Europe, and in obtaining resources from the occupied territories.

    Do you seriously think that a nuclear war will be so protracted that the issue of logistics will come to the fore?
  32. Wolka
    Wolka 12 November 2015 11: 39 New
    +1
    the leak apparently happened earlier, it’s a minus to our special services, they slammed it, therefore they decided in such a way to voice the fact that in fact it’s no longer a secret for specialists, but a secret for most ordinary people, in short, this is a game who will say the first thing everyone carefully kept silent about, and the vector of development of the latest types and types of weapons is indicated by a really very curious ...
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 13 November 2015 16: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: Volka
      the leak apparently happened earlier, it’s a minus to our special services, they slammed it, therefore they decided in such a way to voice the fact that in fact it’s no longer a secret for specialists, but a secret for most ordinary people, in short, this is a game who will say the first thing everyone carefully kept silent about, and the vector of development of the latest types and types of weapons is indicated by a really very curious ...


      It happened at least in the summer. Because in September, the Americans had an article on the development in the Russian Federation of an unmanned atomic half-boat half-torpedo.
  33. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 12 November 2015 11: 40 New
    0
    I am very glad that our country has SUCH! SUCH!
    Already breathtaking! After all, this is comparable to natural disaster!
    Ancient myths, as well as the Bible, described destructions similar to those that our opponents would receive!
    THIS ---- WEAPONS OF GODS !!!!!
    I am proud of Russia !!!!!
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 13 November 2015 16: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Reptiloid
      I am very glad that our country has SUCH! SUCH!
      Already breathtaking! After all, this is comparable to natural disaster!
      Ancient myths, as well as the Bible, described destructions similar to those that our opponents would receive!
      THIS ---- WEAPONS OF GODS !!!!!
      I am proud of Russia !!!!!


      Don't you want to get such an answer?
      Have you thought that in this world "not a single good deed goes unpunished"?
      What is parity in everything or will be in the near future?
      not?
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 15 November 2015 19: 26 New
      0
      Quote: Reptiloid
      THIS ---- WEAPONS OF GODS!

      Well, Gods too? No need to belittle the possibilities of God who created the entire universe. With such capabilities, God does not need nuclear torpedoes at all.
  34. screw cutter
    screw cutter 12 November 2015 11: 45 New
    0
    They hinted to the Uslovites, say, build, build your missile defense system, and we will asymmetrically tell you.
  35. Wedmak
    Wedmak 12 November 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    Yes, yes, yes .... and we BELIEVE that the general thoughtfully revealed a secret report on a promising new weapon during: a) the speech of the commander in chief b) in the presence of journalists and directly to the camera behind him.
    Like wanted to see, and even ONE leaflet SO so brightly lit up. But here is something else interesting: Western analysts have already sniffed out that we will have submarines (nuclear submarines 09852 Belgorod and 09851 Khabarovsk) carriers of something. And there will also be a special vessel, a carrier (or transporter) of some huge weapons.
    Also at Sevmash in 2014 some project "Wicket-SMP" was spotlighted, it is again about the 09851 project. They wondered for a long time that this could be in the end, for the purpose of this ship is not entirely clear.
    Of course, it is not entirely clear even after this leak, but the fog was slightly dispersed.
  36. urik62
    urik62 12 November 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    Quote: Jack-B
    As I understand it, the intelligence of our potential partners works so badly that the "leak" had to be organized through the media.

    That's it!!! Could not sell to any resident.
    1. Cube123
      Cube123 12 November 2015 13: 10 New
      +1
      What for? The task is to designate publicly, so that everyone thinks. And so, heap of residents to palm off separately? This is where they pop up that slip.
      1. Gani
        Gani 12 November 2015 15: 04 New
        0
        and maybe they sold it first, and then they "showed" it to reporters
  37. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 12 November 2015 11: 48 New
    0
    Hmm, the mistake came out! Will there be any benefit?
  38. MATROSKIN-53
    MATROSKIN-53 12 November 2015 11: 48 New
    +3
    Wow! After all, the great chancellor Bismarck warned: "Never fight with Russia! Russia will respond to all your" wisdom "with unpredictable" stupidity! " And it has already been proven more than once. Recent examples of this: the return of the Crimea; ISIS attack from the Caspian Sea. But what else will happen ?! Scary mattresses ?! This is for you RUSSIA!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 12 November 2015 12: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: MATROSKIN-53
      Bismarck: "Never fight with Russia! Russia will respond to all your" wisdom "with unpredictable" stupidity "!"

      Here M.N.Zadornov dug up such disgusting ... F.I. Tyutchev on this occasion had a different opinion:
      "Russia cannot be understood by the mind, common arshin cannot be measured,
      She’s special to become, you can only believe in Russia "
      For Otto von Bismarck, I like another phrase:
      “Make alliances with anyone, unleash any war, but never touch the Russians.”
    2. Manul
      Manul 12 November 2015 16: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: MATROSKIN-53
      After all, the great chancellor Bismarck warned: "Never fight with Russia! Russia will respond to all your" wisdom "with unpredictable" stupidity! "
  39. wild
    wild 12 November 2015 11: 50 New
    +2
    And why did they get that nuclear charge ??? I've read that cobalt. The affected area is in excess of concentrated radiation and not destruction.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 12 November 2015 11: 57 New
      +5
      I've read that cobalt. The affected area is in excess of concentrated radiation and not destruction.

      It is nuclear. One type of bomb in which an exorbitant amount of radioactive cobalt-60 is released. There, the shell is not from uranium-238, as in ordinary, but from cobalt-59. The bomb is generally theoretical, no one has done such a thing. But what the hell is not joking, maybe already pile.
      The most interesting, the half-life of cobalt-60 is slightly more than 5 years, but this infection is simply wild. So 10 years after the impact, there will only be stable nickel-60 and bare earth with no signs of life.
      1. silver_roman
        silver_roman 12 November 2015 12: 04 New
        0
        based on your words, it will be worse than a nuclear bomb. I am sure that the infrastructure for the states is much more important than the life of a couple of lyams of their fellow citizens. The use of such a bomb is possible only either during a full-scale war, or if there is a 100% guarantee that it will start very soon (which, in principle, is not possible). It is unlikely that ours would go for it. Although Pu said that “the enemy must be beaten first,” in this case it would mean nuclear war.
        It would seem that for some time in the event of the start of a “Hot” conflict between the states and NATO as a whole, they will first try to do without nuclear weapons, and the use of such a dirty bomb will definitely prompt the states to launch a retaliatory nuclear strike. So, in fact, there’s no difference than being crazy: either a “governor” or this thing.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 12 November 2015 12: 20 New
          +2
          based on your words, it will be worse than a nuclear bomb. I am sure that the infrastructure for the states is much more important than the life of a couple of lyams of their fellow citizens.

          You are right, the thing is very vile and nobody knows the consequences of its application.
          So, in fact, there’s no difference than being crazy: either a “governor” or this thing.

          If it comes to this, the majority of the world's population will not care. As I understand it, the difference is that from a conventional nuclear explosion, great destruction and radioactive soil for 50-100 years is provided. But after cobalt through 10-15 years, you can paint and repair the surviving and start using. Although it may be wrong.
          1. Armored optimist
            Armored optimist 12 November 2015 14: 25 New
            -1
            Quote: Wedmak
            Although it may be wrong.

            Hiroshima and Nagasaki rebuilt without expecting 100 years
            1. silver_roman
              silver_roman 12 November 2015 15: 04 New
              +1
              and oncology diseases and so on have not been canceled. in the Japanese it is developed + all kinds of rheumatism. A lot of strontium, etc., settles in the cartilaginous tissues. After Chernobyl, we also have this. Nevertheless, this does not prevent the Japanese from so diligently multiplying. True, their nation is aging very much, but that's a different matter!
      2. wild
        wild 12 November 2015 13: 04 New
        +2
        A cobalt bomb is a theoretical modification of a nuclear weapon, giving increased radioactive contamination, contamination of the area with a relatively weak explosion. It is a radiological weapon.

        It is a thermonuclear weapon in which the last shell does not contain uranium-238, but cobalt-59. In an explosion, this shell is irradiated with a strong neutron flux, and cobalt transmutes into the radioactive isotope cobalt-60. The half-life of cobalt-60 is 5,2 years, as a result of beta decay of this nuclide, nickel-60 is formed in an excited state, which then goes into the ground state, emitting one or more gamma rays.

        The activity of 1 grams of cobalt-60 is estimated at 41,8 TBq (1130 Ki). To ensure infection of the entire surface of the Earth at the level of 1 grams per square kilometer, about 510 tons of cobalt-60 are required.

        Officially, it is believed that cobalt bombs have not yet been created and no country has them in service.
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 15 November 2015 19: 28 New
      0
      Quote: wild
      And why did they get that nuclear charge ??? I've read that cobalt.

      So this is a kind of nuclear charges.
  40. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 12 November 2015 11: 56 New
    +3
    Well, I can not do anything with myself, it is joyful to me that the overseas head ached request lol !
  41. raid14
    raid14 12 November 2015 12: 02 New
    +4
    The United States seemed to have concerns about a similar “Status-6” project, so a trip to the Atlantic of the Northern Fleet's research vessel Yantar put their military and intelligence services on their ears. How many tantrums in the Western media about the "Internet killer" a month ago.
  42. mamont5
    mamont5 12 November 2015 12: 02 New
    0
    Quote: tomket
    And whom they were going to scare with an atomic torpedo when INTER-CONTINENTAL ROCKETS were not the first ten years on duty.

    Each projectile has its own goal. The purpose of such a torpedo is ALL USA.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 13: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: mamont5
      Each projectile has its own goal. The purpose of such a torpedo is ALL USA.

      I looked carefully at the document in the video ... the title is slightly different ... SELF-PROPELLED UNDERWATER UNIT! That is, it is not a torpedo. Rather, it’s a kind of underwater unmanned mini submarine (something like a mechanical kamikaze) ... interesting.
      Given the depth for which it is designed, and if this device will be serial, then in fact we will create SDI only in the ocean ... and several orders of magnitude all this is cheaper and more economical.
      But with a sense of humor, our military, specialists and the President are all very good good
  43. am808s
    am808s 12 November 2015 12: 06 New
    +1
    Lighted up or the leak is now all the same, the torpedo this thing is real and now there is no secret in this. It was managed to sink to a similar depth due to the liquid filling of equipment and automation compartments. I read about such a project back in the 70s, it seems in the “Inventor and Rationalizer.” Correct if I’m wrong. But this is not so critical. The main thing in the news is that there are not symmetrical answers in the stock we always have something "brand new" pop up. Basically already forgotten.
  44. Alfizik
    Alfizik 12 November 2015 12: 12 New
    +7
    Not about that, gentlemen, "type of leak"! Once it came to that, then the likelihood of armed conflict increased significantly. And the “Gauges” flew not so easily (they could have done without them). One thing pleases - the composure of our leaders. Although often ostentatious. We learn about a lot only after years.
  45. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 12 November 2015 12: 27 New
    +3
    And ours, it seems, even amers already hold for the demented?
    Leaks are organizing.
    About atomic torpedoes with a kilometer depth and 10 thousand kilometers.
    Then the state’s press-secret makes a guilty face, they say, we will no longer.
    .
    And the Americans are doing it - wi-dod, oh, Russia has a super-deep-sea torpedo. And we do not rebuild the VET.
    Let's build.
    No matter where you look, just holes: ABM against Caliber, like slippers against an armadillo, anti-tank missile systems do not exist at all, we can’t do anything against BZHDK. And there ischo "Dead Hand" is about to grab hold of the collar.
    .
    Stupid somehow.
    Come on, Americans, develop your weapons. And we, although we will not join the race, are not going to lag behind.
    ..
    But aren’t they ourselves ... holding suckers?
  46. Cord
    Cord 12 November 2015 12: 28 New
    +3
    At one time, they often talked about the destruction of tectonic faults on the coast of mattresses. A stationary charge, in the right place, really requires at least some kind of control and maintenance, and surely reconnaissance of places of possible installation is carried out. The presence of such a boat allows you to deliver a "gift" to the right place at the right place time, and if the truth was said (continental plate shift with attendant consequences), then Amers will have to scratch their turnips with two hands laughing
  47. lopvlad
    lopvlad 12 November 2015 12: 30 New
    +5
    Leakage Excluded. Usual direct hint to some.
  48. VladimS
    VladimS 12 November 2015 12: 42 New
    0
    ... not a frail torpedo along the way!

    Yeah! Especially if the move is 10 t.km!
  49. Belousov
    Belousov 12 November 2015 12: 43 New
    +3
    As I understand it, the organizers of the "leak" have already been awarded soldier
    But in fact the system is good, you just need to understand at what stage the implementation of the project.
  50. marinier
    marinier 12 November 2015 12: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
    Hinted :)

    Dapolnu, A subtle hint of THICK circumstance !!!
    And most importantly, in time and place.