Kiev is looking for weapons everywhere, including in Kazakhstan

Ukrainian authorities are trying to get weaponwherever possible. Recently, with a proposal to significantly strengthen military cooperation, President Poroshenko visited his colleague Nursultan Nazarbayev in Astana, writes the French resource Intelligence online. Article translation publishes a blog. bmpd.




During the visit, which took place on October 9 and passed almost unnoticed, Poroshenko promised to cooperate with Kazakhstan in the production of components for Antonov Design Bureau aircraft and the production of engines of the Motor-Sich enterprise.

In addition, Poroshenko discussed with Nazarbayev the possibility of supplying arms to Ukraine. However, as the newspaper writes, "the Kazakh side chose to evade the answer."

“The supply of Russian weapons by the Kazakhs to Ukraine does not make sense: Astana is purchasing its own weapons, first of all, from Russia within the framework of the CSTO,” the resource notes.

According to the author, "the turn of Kiev to Astana, which is very deeply involved in the Minsk negotiations and is the main supplier of grain to the east of Ukraine, may not seem so shocking." “In essence, this is a search for alternatives, despite the fact that Washington has finally decided to carry out massive arms supplies to Kiev,” writes Intelligence online.

According to the newspaper, the cooperation of Kiev with Washington in addition to the supply of artillery shells and equipment for cyberwar "will be aimed at significantly increasing the capabilities of the Ukrainian Air Force."
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  1. sever.56 10 November 2015 12: 55 New
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    From horseradish ears, not weapons from Kazakhstan. It is necessary to completely drink the brains to come to Nazarbayev with such an offer!
    1. oldseaman1957 10 November 2015 13: 04 New
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      Quote: sever.56
      From horseradish ears

      Well, Uncle Nursultan is unlikely to help the cockerel - (he will not quarrel with Russia because of this). So Petrushe does not shine military supplies "from Kazakhstan". Or, in a pinch, throw some bullshit.
      1. Baikonur 10 November 2015 13: 07 New
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        as the newspaper writes, “the Kazakh side chose to evade the answer”

        In fact, Nazarbayev-Vereshchagin (from the “White Sun of the Desert”) silently said: “That's what guys, I won’t give you a machine gun!” laughing
    2. vodolaz 10 November 2015 13: 08 New
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      And chocolate continues to beat. Does he really think that Kazakhstan will want to deal with them? Especially in the production of motors.
      1. Vita vko 10 November 2015 14: 38 New
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        In fact, Porasshenko’s visit to the Kazakh media was covered in much more detail than Putin’s subsequent visit, literally a week later. Approximately on the same level as Kerry’s visit, which also took place a week later, but after Putin’s visit. It was especially unpleasant to read popular forums like nur.kz where, in spite of strict censorship in Kazakhstan, they troll Russia and extol Poraschenko and the USA.
        After these visits, Nazarbayev traveled to European countries. He tried to build bridges, but European politicians apparently had too big requests and failed to agree. Therefore, instead of anti-crisis assistance and European investments, at the end of the visit, the national currency rate fell another 20%.
        Quote: Baikonur
        Nazarbayev-Vereshchagin (from the "White Sun of the Desert") silently said: "That's what guys, I won’t give you a machine gun!"
        .
        1. Kasym 10 November 2015 16: 36 New
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          In my opinion.
          Poroshenko needs Russia, and who from GDP to YOU ​​!? He perfectly understands how and where Kazakhstan is located, and that energy supplies from Kazakhstan without Moscow are impossible. Surely asked to mediate with the Kremlin. Recently, I noticed several facts about Ukraine:
          1. Expressed condolences on the plane.
          2. Gave the pro-Russian convoy to pass on the day of the liberation of Kiev (72 years ago).
          3. Especially Moscow stopped barking (more Yaytsenyuk trying).
          4. Relations with nationalists and radicals deteriorate.
          5. Still, he stopped shelling (although in recent times the tension is growing again).
          Nazarbayev has a reason to refuse weapons. Here is Afghanistan, there are agreements with the Russian Federation on the sale of Astana at domestic prices and a ban on the sale of weapons to third countries. The lack of its military-industrial complex and the production of ammunition. Poroshenko is important to sell something, so he wants to revive the agreement on missile carriers and aircraft. Nazarbayev didn’t give money either - "I'm sorry, but 40 billion was spent on maintaining the tenge. The rate soared due to the graters of the Russian Federation and the EU and sanctions. And you know the sanctions because of what."
          NASU needs only two things from the EU: technology and finance (world. Financial. Center in Astana). From a trip to Europe: NAS signed contracts worth a total of 10 billion and met in London with the English. financiers. NAS "took up" the financial center following the example of Hong Kong and Dubai, so the British are needed - everything is in English law and English. fin. system. And as I understand it, the British are interested. hi
          1. Kasym 10 November 2015 17: 54 New
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            That's what I liked about the visit of ANAS to Europe (England and France). NAS said approximately the following that they are not going to chase anyone. And he is right. It’s the Silk Road. Look at Singapore. Due to their favorable location, they built a port and industry began to develop. Investors were interested in Singapore's good location with the port - send goods in all directions. So it is with us. Kazakhstan due to its location has access to all sides. In the east of the PRC + southeast Asia with a couple billion people (we built our terminal with the permission of Beijing in the Chinese port of Luang (it is already working and this year it will go 100 container trains to Almaty); in the north of the EAEU with a market in 170 mil. + Further the EU, in the south of Central Asia with a market of 50 mil., In the southeast the Persian Gulf with a market of just BV of 200 mil., And ferry trains already go to the west through the Caspian to Azerbaijan. Infrastructure has been built. We would have reached Pakistan and India. Highways and airports are being built, modernized and repaired. Only unlike Singapore, we land "terminal" and have the entire periodic table with a literate population and inexpensive slave. force.
            That is, if RK used to be a "dead end" country, now it is very interesting in terms of production and industry. So those French want our titanium (Airbus). And the Ust-Kamenogorsk plant is ready to put another furnace under their orders. The Chinese will put cement and glass plants in Kazakhstan. The Japanese (nuclear industry and rare-earth and non-ferrous metals) came with an Indian (pharmaceuticals).
            It turns out that near the world transport routes, industrial facilities always begin to grow. Therefore, NAS before the Europeans feels much more confident than 20 years ago. We have our trump cards in our hands. hi
            1. Kasym 10 November 2015 18: 18 New
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              By the way, Poroshenko asked to send Chinese cargo through Ukraine. On this issue, the Baltic states have "fought", everyone asks through their ports. Georgians, Persians and Turks are the same. hi.
              Nazarbayev will surely benefit from this.
              1. Talgat 11 November 2015 00: 18 New
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                I agree Kasym!

                I just wanted to add. that all foreign policy issues Kazakhstan 100% always agrees with Russia

                In fact. when, for political reasons, Russia cannot speak directly with someone (for example, Porosenko), it simply uses its allies - Belarus or Kazakhstan, formally, as if separate countries

                But Astana will never go against Russia, everything is agreed, we are not just allies, our friendship has thousands of years of common history - we are like one country, no Bulgarians or Greeks will be closer to Russia than we are drinks
                1. Kasym 11 November 2015 18: 24 New
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                  Yes, Talgat, even when it is not profitable for us, but it is NECESSARY to Russia. hi
    3. vovanpain 10 November 2015 13: 09 New
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      In fact, Kazakhs are thinking people, unlike stubborn dill, and even more so from a drunken petyuni, especially Nursultan Nazarbayev, in politics, has long ago seen very well what Ukraine (404 territory) has turned into, so that the piglet politely pointed to the door.

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      Need to finally drink the brains

      There already, and the oak squirrel gave from re-drinking.
    4. Lord of the Sith 10 November 2015 13: 11 New
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      Photo from a local resident
      "I was driving along the road, I saw a convoy of punishers. My wife photographed unnoticed. Ukrainian punishers from the Raisin direction were pulling large columns of equipment towards Rubezhnoye and Lugansk. The convoy had about 45 platforms with tanks, 5 fuel trucks, about 20 covered trucks (probably with shells) , 17 Gradov, 19 howitzers.Ukrainian soldiers in the occupied territories are behaving impudently.The fact that their conversations slip through the information that they plan to intensify battles, or to occupy some settlements before the frost. In general, apparently soon "a mess will begin. I hope that the militias know what they are doing and will not allow the Ukrainians to go to the Donbass."
    5. Juborg 10 November 2015 14: 04 New
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      What will happen after the departure of Nazarbay? My daughter is the purest product of American education. By the way, our Minister of Education supported the idea of ​​paying for the education of Russians abroad (in particular America!). You certainly imagine who will learn and what !? Certainly not love of the motherland and activities for her good, because their (students) idol is America, but not like her homeland.
      1. Bekas1967 10 November 2015 20: 32 New
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        What will happen? I’ll tell you what will happen (((The heirs will gnaw their throats on each other. There are many clans, and the traditional division into zhuzes has not been canceled ... In short, if you don’t have time to leave the heir, as Yeltsin did, there’ll be a big mess ! there was an option earlier: to join the Russian Federation, and to hold elections under the control of the union state, already from the indigenous population naturally. But the National Academy of Sciences is not ready for this. But this would guarantee him and his offspring protection from many offended by the authorities in the future. The old man has become so suspicious that he no longer trusts any of the okr Zhenia. In general, this is a topic for a separate conversation ... He is one of the richest people on the planet. But he hasn’t prepared a worthy heir! He shouldn’t bet Kulibayev, he will sell everything, Masimov is generally oriented to China, his daughters to London .... in general, briefly, something like this. Not eternal, unfortunately.
        1. Talgat 11 November 2015 00: 24 New
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          Everything will be fine! Do not worry. In Kazakhstan, a very strong vertical of power of the National Academy of Sciences and civil strife will not be allowed. Moreover, in recent years there has been a complete rapprochement with Russia, including the rapprochement of power "elites" - that is, there will be stability for anyone - whoever sits in the "chair"
    6. diver1977 10 November 2015 14: 41 New
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      We had some kind of artillery complexes, set up by the Jews, it seems Nyze was called (Spear). Their base after the first volley broke in half and bent - they need to cram more expensive and that's it)))
      But seriously - what does the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry do? Such trips are absolutely useless; it splurges the eyes of the public, knowing in advance that it will not receive anything from Kazakhstan! Optimal - 1 horn from Kalash, point blank. Pickup.
  2. Vladimirets 10 November 2015 12: 56 New
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    will be aimed at significantly increasing the capabilities of the Ukrainian Air Force

    For at least something to fly.
  3. Stoler 10 November 2015 12: 56 New
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    Interesting. what happens in the "head?" at Piglet when such "ideas" come there? laughing lol laughing
    1. yushch 10 November 2015 13: 04 New
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      Quote: Stoler
      Interesting. what happens in the "head?" at Piglet when such "ideas" come there? laughing lol laughing


      The poison is cruel, it’s better to have a bigger purgen ... laughing wassat
    2. Afinogen 10 November 2015 13: 06 New
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      Quote: Stoler
      Interesting. what happens in the "head?" at Piglet when such "ideas" come there?



      The piglet has no ideas and cannot be, he has only orders and instructions from across the ocean. And the mattresses have an obsession to stir up the war and drag Russia into the war.
    3. Belarus 10 November 2015 13: 11 New
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      Nothing happens for one simple reason - there is NO head but there is a head from something lol
  4. AdekvatNICK 10 November 2015 12: 57 New
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    Nursultanchik pour them poison in beer, we will not stay in debt.
    1. vorobey 10 November 2015 13: 01 New
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      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      Nursultanchik pour them poison in beer, we will not stay in debt.


      I'm touching ...

      Quote: sever.56
      From horseradish ears, not weapons from Kazakhstan. It is necessary to completely drink the brains to come to Nazarbayev with such an offer!


      Quote: Vladimirets
      will be aimed at significantly increasing the capabilities of the Ukrainian Air Force



      For at least something to fly.


      for what ... it’s almost equivalent to yours ... well, you understand me?
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  5. alex-cn 10 November 2015 12: 59 New
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    Somewhat dubious prospects for Kiev, Nazarbayev himself to the southeast must carefully look ...
  6. Mountain shooter 10 November 2015 13: 00 New
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    According to the newspaper, the cooperation of Kiev with Washington in addition to the supply of artillery shells and equipment for cyberwar "will be aimed at significantly increasing the capabilities of the Ukrainian Air Force."

    God, what nonsense. Nazarbayev will NOT supply weapons from dill from the word ever. And what type of shelling shells are they planning to supply? Journalists are not even aware that the calibers of Russia and NATO do not match!
  7. Denis DV 10 November 2015 13: 03 New
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    Judging by the photo, you can see who actually steers on 404 laughing
  8. 33 Watcher 10 November 2015 13: 03 New
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    Well damn, I asked laughing Here I think double stupidity, first of all, Kazakhstan has strained with surpluses, I put it. It would be possible to upgrade at the expense of Ukraine, such as: sell old at a higher price and buy new cheaper from us. But after all, pay these little things, nothing laughing Or did they, as usual, want a freebie? request
    Apparently, it turned out to be a surprise for Petya that a weapon, even a very big one, is not a cheap pleasure. Yes, petka, htz is for you, not a chocolate factory, here you can’t slip on cocoa beans smuggling wink
  9. Decathlon 10 November 2015 13: 04 New
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    "... trying to get a weapon ..."
    That is, not to buy, but to get it by issuing some kind of "commercial loan", which can later be refused at the command of the IMF ?!
  10. Aleksandr72 10 November 2015 13: 06 New
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    "The Kazakh side chose to evade the answer."

    After the claims that Kiev presented to Mongolia for compensation for the damage caused by the Mongol invasion to the Principality of Kiev during the Batyev invasion, Kazakhstan should "take care" of such visits - do not let Gd Porosenko be offended and present us with a claim that the Kipchaks ( I mean the ancestors of the Kazakhs) were also part of Batyev’s troops and smashed the “Ukrainian” principalities. wassat
    But seriously ... no, I can not seriously. Because Poroshenko’s appeal to Kazakhstan regarding the supply of weapons looks at least frivolous. And speaking in their own words - the arena is still the same (i.e. the clown Piglet in his repertoire).
    I have the honor.
    1. Kradi 10 November 2015 13: 36 New
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      Or can I share calibers with them? Self-starting delivery from the Caspian Sea.
    2. Lone wolf 10 November 2015 17: 17 New
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      Quote: Aleksandr72
      "The Kazakh side chose to evade the answer."

      After the claims that Kiev presented to Mongolia for compensation for the damage caused by the Mongol invasion to the Principality of Kiev during the Batyev invasion, Kazakhstan should "take care" of such visits - do not let Gd Porosenko be offended and present us with a claim that the Kipchaks ( I mean the ancestors of the Kazakhs) were also part of Batyev’s troops and smashed the “Ukrainian” principalities. wassat
      But seriously ... no, I can not seriously. Because Poroshenko’s appeal to Kazakhstan regarding the supply of weapons looks at least frivolous. And speaking in their own words - the arena is still the same (i.e. the clown Piglet in his repertoire).
      I have the honor.

      Where the info slipped that Poroshenko served in Kazakhstan, which is probably why such an idea came to mind.
      1. Vladimirets 10 November 2015 17: 18 New
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        Quote: Lone Wolf
        Poroshenko served in Kazakhstan, which is probably why such an idea came to mind.

        Looking for his machine?
        1. Talgat 11 November 2015 00: 29 New
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          in fact, Porosenko went to negotiate with Russia - Kazakhstan is just a “window” of communication

          He was not going to receive any weapons - this is absurd - in a feud with Russia to ask for weapons from its own allies

          Killing Russians in the Donbass. to ask for weapons from a country where Russians are one of the main nationalities, and the fact that the Russian language is still the main language is absurd in general
  11. dchegrinec 10 November 2015 13: 06 New
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    When a person loses his face, then he does not care where and when he will lose it yet. It's like a snowball. Poroshenko has already passed the so-called point of no return.
  12. Kibl 10 November 2015 13: 06 New
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    The East is a delicate matter, Narsultan will listen, think, take time, see how things go and then we'll see! And at the expense of mattress artillery, then there’s a divorce, the trunks will put it all right, but they will develop it on shells !!!
  13. SAM 5 10 November 2015 13: 07 New
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    How much they want war, they are already spinning at the navel. But to hell with them all over the face.
  14. Belarus 10 November 2015 13: 09 New
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    I wonder if this "president" will come to Minsk and what will he ask there ??? Although I think that he will come and ask for absolutely what he requested in Kazakhstan.
    A reasonable question arises: if Farmington is arming the country 404, then why does a country that "does not want war" need so much armament and ammunition?
    And if you follow the logic of liberalists in the Russian Federation, then you do not need to fight and intervene somewhere, but revive the economy.
    But what really worries is that the Ukrainian "geniuses" want to switch to American fuel for nuclear reactors.
  15. Amurets 10 November 2015 13: 10 New
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    A week ago, I wrote in the comments that Secretary of State Carry warned Ukraine about the implementation of the Minsk Agreements. There are no references to Russia in the points that Ukraine must comply with. Article dated November 2 from inforeks. Crimea is not mentioned there either
  16. pts-m 10 November 2015 13: 10 New
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    they probably didn’t ask for boughs in Eritrea and Ethiopia. they will try. they have there ... a large supply of arrows for bows and spears have not yet rotted from moisture ... can be exchanged for mutual benefit. As a uniform, bastards can offer loincloths and straw sambrero. all the same, in straw hats they look like a relative. ancestors of the Kahlov however.
  17. RusDV 10 November 2015 13: 13 New
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    Piglet decided to resume Sich and Antonov’s deliveries to Russia ..... Money is VERY necessary .... In view of the impossibility of a direct dialogue with Moscow, he made an offer to Astana, such as participating in an intermediary, ... well aware that theoretically this is the only way to survive and try save at least something from these enterprises. Most likely, acts on the instructions, because He walks around the edge, and it’s difficult for him ... It became clear to Washington that the Russians did not beg Kiev to continue deliveries on their terms, but they were perfectly creating their own engines and cargo planes, which is not good for the USA ... Again for pindocs a surprise -nezhdanchik ..... well, they did not expect from the "torn to shreds" of the economy of this ....
  18. roskot 10 November 2015 13: 13 New
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    From hopelessness all this. Well, to probe how Kazakhstan lives.
  19. AlexTires 10 November 2015 13: 20 New
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    We found someone to come to. I can imagine how thinly in the East, Nazarbayev described their pedestrian-sexual journey home ....
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  21. SAM 5 10 November 2015 13: 31 New
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    Nekhai will go to Turkmenistan, he will ask for military camels.
    1. Aleksandr72 10 November 2015 13: 43 New
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      Why not? Cavalry in the country 404 is already successfully "recreated."
      But it’s better for them to train combat boars. And you don’t have to go anywhere, you don’t have to spend currency (especially if it isn’t!), And the ukroboyts will probably be provided with additional supplies (our fat is all! (S)
      Here is the Dolki Cabana for poverty:
      1. SAM 5 10 November 2015 14: 48 New
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        But it’s better for them to train combat boars

        Devour during training.
      2. BABA SHURA 10 November 2015 17: 15 New
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        The boar must be bruised ...
        No pennies mahe ...
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    3. Altona 10 November 2015 13: 52 New
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      Quote: SAM 5
      Nekhai will go to Turkmenistan, he will ask for military camels.

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      But Nazarbayev probably immediately suggested the sheep to buy ... laughing
      1. serezhasoldatow 10 November 2015 14: 48 New
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        They have enough of their own.
  22. Izotovp 10 November 2015 13: 42 New
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    Here Minsk is just a weapon and can give. There were already facts of the military-technical cooperation. And if he really really VERY needs a weapon, then let him go to ISIS, he has nothing to be ashamed of.
  23. Altona 10 November 2015 13: 51 New
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    Right song has developed-
    Vnognepalnuu zbroyu do not joke in the evenings,
    More beautifully than vipiti gorilki yes salsa grit,
    Ex Petya, Petya, then you are not toys,
    Spare grati with krajina in the war ...

    Do not look for firearms in the evenings,
    It’s better to drink vodka and you’re salsa
    Oh Petya, Petya, this is not a toy for you,
    To play war games with the country ...
  24. Altona 10 November 2015 13: 53 New
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    Here Minsk is just a weapon and can give. There were already facts of the military-technical cooperation. And if he really really VERY needs a weapon, then let him go to ISIS, he has nothing to be ashamed of.
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    So it was already .. laughing
  25. provincial 10 November 2015 14: 06 New
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    Walk through villages, hamlets, towns, fields and forests, weapons will find the sea and you will be happy.
  26. nivander 10 November 2015 14: 19 New
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    short sheet for Ukraine from KZ

    500 bows + spare arrows (for less than 5 per bow)
    500 scimitar
    200 copies
    and for bonus 2 lasso
  27. combat66 10 November 2015 14: 31 New
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    Eared walkers in search of both weapons and adventures begin, like cockroaches creeping around the world. Today found in the "Russian Spring".
    "Ukrainian nationalists were detained on the Belarusian border and interrogated for 5 hours"
    according to the text ..... "... Representatives of the Nazi-style organization" Remain Baricade "(" The Last Barricade "- Russian) on the Belarusian border were interrogated and searched for about 5 hours and accused of transporting extremist materials."
    “...“ The inscription on the minibus “Barricade Remains” was also called a provocation, it was demanded to be torn off. For Belarus, our songs and the hero of Ukraine Lev Lukyanenko, the Holodomor is extremism, ”he said.

    “I advise you not to travel through Belarus even to anyone. There is the USSR, there is the “Russian world”, it smells of Russia there ... ”, added Doni.“ Http://rusvesna.su/news/1447153653

    The last sentence completely smiled. Let these “artists” say thanks that they have not yet been nailed to the cobblestones.
    1. DobryAAH 10 November 2015 15: 18 New
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      We must put them in jail for 10 years, let them think about the meaning of life.
    2. your1970 10 November 2015 18: 16 New
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      Belarusian policemen are really impressive - serious guys, like pick-me-up (sinewy good ), high, the desire to hooligan disappears somehow by itself ...