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Trojan War: “The Last Song of the Poem”, Question Historiography and Exotic Weapons (part of 13)

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The cycle of articles on the armament of the era of the Trojan War has come to an end, and ... somehow even an unusually little. It seems that something is missing? At one time, I wanted to write an entire book about it - why, by the way, was the cycle born so quickly that a lot was already done, but in one of the most famous publishers I was told that “the topic is narrow and the book will be expensive”. Therefore, to print - it makes no sense. But, thanks to BO, she still found her reader, though ... and in a rather raw form. As I worked on the materials of the cycle, I myself learned a lot of new things, met interesting people, so this work was not only interesting, but also useful. Someone even asked me whether it is possible to make a candidate dissertation on this material. You can, but not worth it! But the graduate work of a student of history can be done completely.


Trojan War: “The Last Song of the Poem”, Question Historiography and Exotic Weapons (part of 13)

Duel of two warriors with a spear and a "mace with a hook." Photo by Andreas Smaragdis.

At the end of any monograph usually put a list of references. There will be difficulties with this, because much was taken not from books, but from sites, including Greek, and English. In one of the articles were called the latest books of the publishing house Osprey. Who needs it - he can easily find them on the website of this publisher and order. But without literature, it is still impossible.


Drawings of the warriors of the artist J. Rava with all their advantages and disadvantages.

Therefore, it provides a list of books recommended by British historians on this topic. From this list, I happened to read books under the numbers 3,4,6,10 and 11 and I can say that they, especially the book by Connoli, were recommended not in vain. So if someone decided to devote himself to the study of this topic, then ... the foundation for this is his substantial plus links to the websites of Korivantes society and Matt Poitras. There are great photos that they are always ready to share. You can also write to Corivantes and offer them your article on a related topic. For example, “Bronze weapon Kerch "," Kolkhida of the ancient Kolkhs "," Warriors of the Golden Fleece ". True, you need to write in English. You can translate via Google translator, but then you must re-read and correct the errors, because they will be in every sentence !!! You can get acquainted with our national archaeological material on this topic, besides the already named 20-volume edition, in the journals “Soviet Archeology” and “Archeology of Russia”, as well as in the magazine “Rodina”.


Mycenaean warriors of the XII century. BC. c. Artist J. Rava.

But there is a lot of work to be done and a “cavalry assault” will not take this topic. However, we are people, we love difficulties, so if someone suddenly becomes “tempted”, then I am always “for”. Well, the books - here they are - read:
1.Astrom, Paul. The Cuirass Tomb and Others at Dendra, Part I: The Chamber Tombs. Studies in Mediterranean Archeology, Vol. Iv. Goteborg, Sweden, 1977. ISBN 91 85058 03 3. (Astrom, Paul. “The Tomb of the Cuirass” and other finds in Dendra. Part I: Chamber tombs. Studies in Mediterranean archeology. Volume IV. Gothenburg, Sweden, 1977. ISBN 85058 03 3. Excellent photos of each piece of armor, among them many large plans, drawings, and descriptions. Not to mention all the pottery and other items found in Dendra's tombs!)

2.Avila, Robert AJ Bronzene Lanzen- und Pfeilspitzen der Griechischen Spaetbronzezeit (Praehistorische Bronzefunde, Abteilung V, Band 1). Munich: CH Beck'sche Verlagsbuchhandlung. Text in German. http://www.antikmakler.de/catalog/index.php. (The series is not cheap and it can be difficult to find, but there are large-scale drawings of weapons and much more.)

2.Barber, Martyn. Bronze and the Bronze Age: Metalwork and Society in Britain c. 2500-800 BC. Stroud: Tempus Publishing, 2003. ISBN 0-7524-2507-2. (Barber Martyn. Bronze and Bronze Age: metalworking and British society 2500-800 BC Strod. Tempus Publishing, 2003. ISBN 0-7524-2507-2.

3.Connolly, Peter. The Ancient Greece of Odysseus. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1998. ISBN 0-19-910532-4. (Connolly, Peter. Odyssey in Ancient Greece. Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1998. ISBN Number 0-19-910532-4. Full of excellent information, richly illustrated. Price $ 12!

4. Dickinson, Oliver. The Aegean Bronze Age. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1994. ISBN 0 521 45664 9. Not exactly a light read, but a good overview of the subject. (Dickinson, Oliver. Aegean Bronze Age. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1994. ISBN number 0 521 45664 9. It is difficult to read it, but a qualitative overview of the topic is given).

5.Drews, Robert. 1200: The End of the Bronze Age: X-Menus and the BC-St. Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 1993. ISBN 0-691-04811-8. (Dreis Robert. The End of the Bronze Age: Changes in the Art of War and the 1200 Catastrophe BC Princeton, New Jersey, Princenton University Press, 1993. ISBN 0-691-04811-8. The author draws attention to many of the flaws of modern science, but many English historians consider it superficial. Obviously, this is a kind of British Fomenko, and those who criticize him are “conspiratorial traditions”).

6. Grguric, Nicolas. The Mycenaeans, c. 1650-1100 BC. Osprey Elite Series #130. Oxford: Osprey Publishing, 2005. ISBN 1-84176-897-9. (Grgurik, Nicholas. Mykenets, 1650-1100 years BC. Osprey. Elite Series # 130. Oxford. 2005. ISBN 1-84176-897-9. Illustrator Angus MacBride. Like all Osprey books, it is too short. But There are beautiful illustrations, interesting photos.

7. Harding, AF European Societies in the Bronze Age. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2000. ISBN 0 521 36729 8 (Harding, AA European Societies in the Bronze Age. Caimbridge, Cambridge University Press, 2000. ISBN 0 521 36729 8)

8. James, Peter. Centuries of Darkness. London: Jonathan Cape, 1991. ISBN 0-224-02647-X. (James, Peter. Centuries of Darkness. London: Jonathan Cape, 1991. ISBN 0-224-02647-X. Another British Fomenko! Now you understand where our ears grow from? Draws attention to the "failures" of the theory of "dark ages" and that the chronology of the three continents is clearly “corrupted” by the Egyptian “royal list” of Manetho. Now, all dates before 950 BC can be reduced by at least 250 years. But then at least the amendment to 250 years, not 2500 ...)

9.Osgood, RIchard; Monks, Sarah; and Toms, Judith. Bronze Age Warfare. Sutton Publishing, 2000. ISBN 0-7509-2363-6.

10.Wood, Michael. In Search of the Trojan War. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1998. ISBN 0-520-21599-0. (Wood, Michael. In Search of the Trojan War. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1998. ISBN 0-520-21599-0. Excellent, balanced история Troy's discoveries and debates about truth and legend.)

11.Yadin, Yigael. The Art of Warfare in Biblical Lands. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1963. (Yadin, Igael. The art of warfare in biblical lands. New York: McGraw Hill, 1963. A two-volume edition focused on the Middle East and Egypt, but also applies to other cultures, starting with the Neolithic. Filled with illustrations, a fascinating analysis of ancient texts. But the book is interesting not only by this, but also by the fact that everyone has forgotten it, therefore it is especially interesting to use it as a source).

One of the site visitors (I apologize, but there is no time to search by comments who exactly) expressed a wish to learn about Achaean axes and other types of their exotic weapons. At that time, in response to his comment, I did not find this information, but now it’s a different matter. Here’s information from the website of the Korivantes society about the weapons that they themselves consider exotic.

“There is a stereotype that Homer's heroes are well-armored warriors with swords and spears fighting each other in fights or in constructions like primitive phalanxes. Some of them were exceptional archers using compound bows, for example, Paris and Odysseus, but the arsenal of warriors of that time was much richer. Archaeological finds in Egypt, the territories of Mitanni, the Hittites and the Sumerians allow us to imagine a wide variety of “exotic” weapons, such as: clubs with spherical topping, clubs with discoid topping, sickle-shaped swords, spears-bidens, etc. Well, first of all, these are axes that the Mykene used quite widely. Crescent-shaped axes were common, and the axes with the blade in the form of the beak of the platypus are also known.

The Minoans also knew double axes (and in the cult film Troy even showed how one such ax was loaded onto a cart with a weapon), but there are a lot of arguments for the fact that these axes are ritual, not combat. The use of a battle ax (both with one hand and with two hands) requires a large swing, and it is obvious that such lamellar armor, like “Dendra armor,” was created to withstand them. And, by the way, axes were also widely used against Byzantine cataphracts and Western European medieval knights.


"Menelaus" fully armed.

It is a fact that Homer very briefly (and rarely) describes some unusual (and less noble) types of weapons, such as axes and maces (Iliad 7.138). Meanwhile, it is known that a wide variety of materials (iron, bronze, stone) were used for their manufacture, depending on the social status and financial capabilities of the warrior.

Homer makes an excellent reference to such weapons as aksini. They were used by a Troy warrior who attacked Menelaus, who, however, killed this warrior (Iliad 13,613). The word axini is used even today in modern Greek to describe such an agricultural tool as a pickaxe. But we can assume that such tools were used as weapons by poor warriors, and this assumption can be fully accepted, since it is better to have such weapons than none. Interestingly, the Kanellopoulos Museum in Athens shows an interesting artifact dated 9 c. BC. This is a heavy hammer with a long "horn", just very similar to a pickaxe. If it were a weapon of that era, it was clearly intended to puncture heavy armor or capture the enemy’s clothing.


Double ax work Katsikis Dimitrios.

Another weapon was a heavy double-tipped spear. There is an assumption that it was a device for hunting large marine animals, for example, dolphins or swordfish, but, of course, they could easily pierce a man! ”


The ax in a leather case, the work of Katsikis Dimitrios.

On this, our cycle of weapons and armor of the era of the Trojan War can be considered complete: “the last song of the poem” is over.


Members of the association "Korivantes" in their robes and armor.

The author is grateful to Katsikis Dimitrios (http://www.hellenicarmors.gr) as well as to the Greek association Korivantes (koryvantes.org) for providing photos of their reconstruction and information.


Warrior with a "mace with a hook." Greek Association of the History of Korivantes.
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Articles from this series:
Weapons and armor of soldiers of the Trojan War. Swords and daggers (part one)
Armor of the Trojan War (part two)
Armor warriors of the Trojan War. Helmets (part three)
http://topwar.ru/83250-schity-troyanskoy-voyny-chast-chetvertaya.html
Weapons of the Trojan War. Spears (part five)
Weapons of the Trojan War. Bow and Arrows (part six)
The Trojan War and its reconstruction (seventh part) - ending
Trojan War: ships and chariots
The Trojan War and the "peoples of the sea." “English historians report ...” (part nine)
"Peoples of the Sea". Armor and weapons (part ten)
Once again to the question of the reconstruction of the armor of the era of the Trojan War. Warriors with Shields (part 11)
Once again on the issue of reconstructing the weapons of the era of the Trojan War. Warriors in armor and helmets (part 12)
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  1. dvg79
    dvg79 11 November 2015 07: 43 New
    +7
    Thank you very much for this cycle, I hope the author will continue to please us with new works.
    1. ICT
      ICT 11 November 2015 08: 10 New
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      I don’t know how much of course it’s true, but we (i.e. I) strengthen the ax of axes and a cleaver by putting a loop and wrapping a tight rope around it (you can also wire), and filling the end of the rope into the protruding remainder of the loop is pulled under the winding with the remaining tail.
      I don’t know how old this idea is. But obviously more practical than in this photo
      1. ICT
        ICT 11 November 2015 08: 16 New
        +1
        this is how the xnumx picture
        1. kalibr
          11 November 2015 08: 48 New
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          I can't say anything, Andrey. I myself did not hold it in my hands. But the photos are large, you can see everything on them. Personally, I am confused by the wire. She is very thin. And I don't know if they knew how "then" to do this or not. They were able to do something - patterns soldered from O.5 mm gold wire are known, but not gold right there, so history continues to keep its secrets. We are only getting a little closer to them and ... that's it!
          1. ICT
            ICT 11 November 2015 09: 11 New
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            Quote: kalibr
            Personally, the wire bothers me. She is very thin.


            DO NOT embarrass the wire itself, but the method of fastening it (if the holes are through, it weakens the wood, if not, then it’s just decoration)
      2. The lead
        The lead 11 November 2015 12: 57 New
        +1
        It would be interesting to read an article about the tactics of combat of that time. Homer wrote that already in the Trojan War, the formation of a phalanx was used. The spectacle was, presumably, magnificent: the ranks of soldiers sparkling with "gold", the sounds of musical instruments, commands of commanders, the rhythmic rumble of simultaneous steps thousands of soldiers.
        1. kalibr
          11 November 2015 13: 48 New
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          Well, among these books there are tactics ...
    2. kalibr
      11 November 2015 08: 49 New
      +4
      The author will continue! An overview of the weapons of medieval India coming soon, including elephant armor and the most famous "Leeds elephant".
      1. Vend
        Vend 11 November 2015 10: 09 New
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        At the end of any monograph, a list of references is usually placed. There will be difficulties with this, because a lot was taken not from books, but from sites

        According to the rules of historical science, it is now possible to indicate the addresses of sites in articles, monographs, etc. This is exactly what I did when I passed my diploma.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 11 November 2015 08: 03 New
    +1
    The author continues to please ... thanks ...
  3. marline
    marline 11 November 2015 08: 29 New
    +1
    Thank you for the article. Especially for the material on the axes (I just asked).
    1. kalibr
      11 November 2015 08: 44 New
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      Well, you see, I remembered the topic, and what exactly you asked for, sorry, forgot, and looking at the comments is troublesome. But you suggested a good idea, thank you. He did not know what he had found. Especially about a mace with a hook. A terrible thing, by the way, only once proving that the armor at that time was.
      1. marline
        marline 11 November 2015 09: 12 New
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        Quote: kalibr
        Especially about the mace with the hook. A terrible thing, by the way, only once proving that the armor at that time was.

        Klevets. Yes, a terrible weapon, against armor. Honestly, I didn’t know that they were made of bronze, the more valuable your material.
  4. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 11 November 2015 08: 49 New
    +6
    You can not!
    Dear Vyacheslav, you can’t interrupt the series on number 13.
    Superstition, not superstition, however, take care, huh?
    Previously, letters were inserted in addition. Now you can just put a couple of illustrations.
    Number 14 is a bummer photo. It will be okay.
    .
    As the Germans say - gut gemacht. As we say, great job.
    Thank you.
    .
    And, as the young say - aftarr, writing ishsho. wassat
    1. ICT
      ICT 11 November 2015 09: 07 New
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      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      on the 13 number.

      somewhere in Russia there is a church with 13 th poppies, smile
    2. kalibr
      11 November 2015 09: 29 New
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      I do not believe in all this! Moreover, from the point of view of the Orthodox Church, believe in the signs of paganism!
      1. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 11 November 2015 09: 58 New
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        Wound up .... as IZH-Planet-sport.
        And from the point of view of paganism - everything else is devilry.
        And "13" refers to Christianity.
        The British (we trust them, aren't they?), Instead of the 13th numeral they use 12a. Or do not use anything.
        .
        These are all jokes. jokes.
        It’s a pity to just part with such luxurious material.
        .
        Where did they go next? These Minoans, Achaeans - it’s interesting. In a new place, new armor began to be crafted.
        The Phoenicians at that time put sticks in their wheels ... mmm ... or algae in the oars.
        And also, after all, they were not naked. Obviously something was being blown up on themselves, copper there, tin.
        That's interesting.
        What is not the prospect of research?
        1. Bashibuzuk
          Bashibuzuk 11 November 2015 10: 09 New
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          And interesting material climbed, as about 13 began to watch.
          ".. In the XXI century, the number 13 is considered to be unlucky," a damn dozen. "In some European countries, due to fear, the 13th floor was canceled, instead of it there is 12A or floor" 12 + 1 ". In Italy on ships after 12 - First, cabin 14. The planes do not have row 13, and so on. In Russia, the number 13 meant all new, new life.

          Kiev Hagia Sophia (XI century) was built with 13 domes that marked
          beginning of the primacy of the Christian religion in Russia. The cathedral was built by order of Yaroslav
          Wise. In the XVII-XVIII centuries, the appearance of the cathedral changed significantly - the cathedral was whitened, the number of domes was brought to 19 and instead of the ancient hemispherical shape, they were made tall pear-shaped. The Church of the Beheading of John the Baptist in Dyakovo (Moscow Region, 1533th century) is an outstanding monument of Russian architecture. Founder - John IV Vasilievich (Ivan the Terrible) - Grand Duke of Moscow and All Russia, (since 13) the first king of all Russia. The church was erected in honor of the establishment of the autocratic power of Ivan the Terrible and the adoption of the royal title. The dome of the church is crowned with a 13-beam yargic sign (spiral swastika). According to art critics, the image of the “city of heaven” is embodied in the temple, established by God, the tier order of all things, the gathering of all parts of the world together according to the will of God, the expression of which on earth was the Orthodox Russian Tsar. The dome is the place where, in accordance with Orthodox beliefs, the Spirit and Grace of God comes from, and the 13-rayed yarn symbolizes a new life descending from heaven, since in the worldview the number XNUMX means a new, new life, a new beginning of divine life. Thus, the adoption of a new title by Ivan the Terrible, corresponding to the sovereign fullness of power, is marked by the number “thirteen”, which emphasizes the completely new, sent over from above status of the monarch, and therefore, the whole power: the Russian kingdom is the earthly embodiment of the Kingdom of Heaven, where the rage is a symbol of this eternity kingdom.
          The dome of the church in Dyakovo is decorated with the same swastika with only 13 rays. There is even a version that one architect Barma built them (Barma and Postnik). Barma (XVI century) - Russian architect. According to the chronicles of Postnik and Barm, Ivan the Terrible granted God "and they were wise and comfortable with such a wonderful work." Some of the domes of St. Basil's Cathedral are spiral-shaped; moreover, one spiral is given the sowing, and the other collecting direction. The twisting orientation symbolizes the prayer burning of believers (directed upward, like a candle flame), and the unfolding orientation symbolizes the grace of the Holy Spirit sent from above.

          Comments and discussions at: http: //4stor.ru/strashno-interesno/31939-chislo-13-na-rusi.html ...
          .
          I didn’t know, I didn’t know for sure.
        2. kalibr
          11 November 2015 10: 21 New
          +3
          In English planes, yes, 12.
          About "further". Oh! Further "dark ages" (a godsend for Fomenko!) There is an opinion that not Santorini, but Hekla became the reason for the "great exodus". Ashes, "nuclear winter" drove people from North to South. And they burned Hattusa and other cities. Bronze became in short supply and iron began to spread ...
          Hence the conclusion: it is necessary to look at the last local cultures of the Bronze Age, the beginning of the Iron Age, and then go to the Dipylon cemetery and its findings - "the warriors of the new Greek culture." But you must admit that such work requires a clear structure and sequence. This "horse attack on capital cannot be overpowered." I have been preparing the "troika" for 2 years, which is why it "got out" so quickly. We need to see what I have and what the same Englishmen have in general. So you give me a good perspective, but there are many "buts".
          1. Bashibuzuk
            Bashibuzuk 11 November 2015 12: 26 New
            0
            Believe, hope, wait!
            winked
  5. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 November 2015 09: 31 New
    0
    So your wonderful series has come to an end. Now --- hopes for your other articles. I will allow myself to speculate on the topic of your good habits. I see that you have studied several languages, including the ancient ones that have disappeared. Yes, with Real Historians This happens.
    Please tell us: when your book comes out in Russia, how to order it ???
    Sincerely.
    1. kalibr
      11 November 2015 10: 28 New
      +2
      You are just like my students ... "You know Japanese? - No! But what about your book" Modern Japanese Advertising "? - My graduate student knows him! Do you know German? - No, my graduate student knows him! So what Do you know? - Quite a bit Polish and English. - And just ... Ooh! " And I don’t know the ancients at all! But ... I know those who know-ha-ha! And this is almost the same thing! But everything is simple: you have to work and notice everything around you.
      About my books in Russia. It was reported from the publishing house that "Samurai Knights of Japan" is scheduled for January 2016. From another, that they want to order another book "about tanks" ... But ... here's something that is "but". In England, I have already lost two books due to the "deterioration of relations between our countries", why are we better?
  6. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 11 November 2015 12: 15 New
    +1
    thank! the cycle is great! read with pleasure !!! We will wait for a new one!
  7. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 11 November 2015 12: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: Bashibuzuk
    . In Russia, the number 13 meant all new, new life.

    In, in. I had a wedding 13 number, so 40 years live smile
    I read the series of articles with pleasure, thank you very much good
  8. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 11 November 2015 13: 36 New
    +1
    Great cycle, many thanks to the author. I would like to continue, in school this period was covered superficially. It’s very difficult to meet a person with education, and even on this issue, but here such luck.)
    I would like to know what was the area of ​​distribution of bronze weapons and armor? Is there any evidence of similar in other nations, such as the Scandinavian or Slavic?
    Have you tried to publish electronically?
    1. kalibr
      11 November 2015 13: 54 New
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      This is a very interesting question, so I will try to answer in detail. In the journal ARCHEOLOGY RF (for which year I don’t remember, something around 2007) there were several articles about the area of ​​bronze in Russia. There was also Scandinavia, more territory. That is, more than exhaustive. But you have to look in which magazine, for which year. Here are all my articles here on VO. There are a number of articles in Questions of History, but not on the Trojan War and its weapons. In the West, as you can see, historiography is very extensive. I haven't posted everything yet! E. Oakeshott has about bronze swords. Books of the publishing house Tsentrpoligraf.
  9. marline
    marline 11 November 2015 13: 41 New
    +2
    It is interesting that while the logic and forms of swords of swords, spears and armor are generally understood (as the opinions on the previous topic agreed, armors generally have much in common with later ones, only made of other materials), then regarding the axes themselves, they didn’t make such broad-blade axes with recesses in the Middle Ages (not to mention labrises), in general, the designs were much simpler (for example, in the picture - a beard-shaped ax). Apparently due to the insufficient strength of the bronze ... It would be interesting to know the mass of such axes.
    1. kalibr
      11 November 2015 13: 56 New
      0
      I'll try to find out. Now this is not a problem.
      1. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 11 November 2015 16: 11 New
        +2
        Hello, hello.
        And to me, looking at this ax and grip, I suddenly thought.
        Such a grip with an ax can be used as a cutting tool.
        Replacement knife, scraper.
        And due to the material - steel, the sharpness of the blade is much higher than that of bronze (well, if you don’t take any exotic, astronomical, black ... then they weren’t produced in sufficient quantities).
        Sharpening bronze is easy enough. But just as easily and dull. They took it in arms, not with sharpness - but precisely with its weight.
        The situation is different with steel - sharpness and strength come first.
        .
        Here are even the same swords. Bronze - they are all piercing, konkar, in fact. Rapiers.
        And steel swords initially chopping, again due to lack of strength on the narrowing of the blade, on the tip. Then - more and more chopping and stitching.
        Who knows for sure that the Goths really only had chopping swords?
        1. ratfly
          ratfly 11 November 2015 16: 39 New
          +1
          Who knows for sure that the Goths really only had chopping swords?

          - In the Goths, I would love to read a separate topic. Especially in the east. By burning them allegedly Slavic leaders.
          1. kalibr
            11 November 2015 22: 14 New
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            I would also like to read about it ...
        2. marline
          marline 11 November 2015 16: 58 New
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          Hey.
          I’m absolutely right, an ax is a universal thing - in battle and firewood, and even shaving if you feel like it ... Surprisingly different, with all the flaws of bronze, in my opinion, it was quite possible to make something like Francisca or Sagarisa, why didn’t they do it, especially since there were stone axes of this form?
          Why didn’t they make axes with recesses from iron?
          Although the same Klevts and minted in bronze, here they are in the photo provided by the respected Vyacheslav Olegovich.
          With regard to swords, the late bronze ones have a wheelchair-chopping (xyphos), the early iron ones are also mainly wheel-chopping.
        3. marline
          marline 11 November 2015 17: 41 New
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          By the way, also about the swords - I don’t know how I was ready, but Saint Peter had an exclusively chopping sword:
          1. War and Peace
            War and Peace 11 November 2015 19: 40 New
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            Quote: merlin
            By the way, also about the swords - I don’t know how I was ready, but Saint Peter had an exclusively chopping sword:


            at how to look, at some so
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        4. kalibr
          11 November 2015 22: 13 New
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          In England there is a book in the series Osprey and the Battle of Adrianople, where the Goths fought with the Romans Valens. There, of course, there is about their weapons. But I do not have this book.
  10. Denimax
    Denimax 11 November 2015 16: 15 New
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    Quote: Bashibuzuk
    And to me, looking at this ax and grip, I suddenly thought.
    Such a grip with an ax can be used as a cutting tool.
    Replacement knife, scraper.

    For some reason, I thought the cutting brass knuckles.
  11. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 11 November 2015 18: 42 New
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    Dear Vyacheslav! The fact is that situations with books can change. Now in Russia it didn’t work out (as you wrote at the beginning of the article), then everything can change. I talked once with one author, he talked a lot about unexpected things with the publication.
    A book on a Japanese theme should instantly fall into the category of rare, expensive publications. Let good paper, your photos, the cover is thick and beautiful. I have several similar books on a Japanese theme. And which publisher?
    Good luck to you!
    1. kalibr
      11 November 2015 22: 11 New
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      Publisher YAUZA / Eksmo. But as she comes out, I hope I can report it. After all, the theme of the history of the samurai HERE is not closed. There are a few more topics that will certainly be interesting. This is the ashigaru infantry, and a couple of interesting topics.