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US Air Force F-15 Flying To Turkey Armed With Air-to-Air Missiles

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The US Air Force is sent to the base "Inzhirlik" in Turkey around the 10-F-15 fighters to provide cover for their attack aircraft and bomber involved in an air operation in the sky of Syria, reports MIC with reference to the Daily Beast.




Pentagon spokeswoman Laura Sil, in an interview with a publication, refused to disclose the specific tasks of fighters armed exclusively with air-to-air missiles. However, she noted: "I did not say that it is not connected with Russia."

According to the official version of the Pentagon, the deployment of the F-15 Eagle in Turkey is associated with "ensuring the security of the US allies of NATO."

Daily Beast suggested that "F-15, equipped with six air-to-air missiles, will help the Turkish Air Force to patrol the border with Syria to intercept Syrian aircraft and helicopters that repeatedly flew into Turkish territory."

However, “most likely, F-15s will be accompanied by attack aircraft and bombers during air strikes against targets of ISIS militants near the contact line with Syrian troops and the Russian zone aviation"Writes the publication.

The author of the article does not exclude the fact that the main task of the fighters will be “tracking the Russians.”
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  1. figwam
    figwam 5 November 2015 16: 13 New
    +5
    F-15C aircraft gaining superiority in the air, and if FSA collide with Syrian aviation, who should give in to whom?
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 5 November 2015 16: 16 New
      17
      The provocation is clearly being prepared .... See Erdogan!
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 5 November 2015 16: 19 New
        18
        Scare! - Thought Stirlitz!
        (from an old joke!)
        1. svetoruss
          svetoruss 5 November 2015 16: 20 New
          +8
          Quote: Baikonur
          Scare! - Thought Stirlitz!
          (from an old joke!)

          оч"куют laughing
          1. Temples
            Temples 5 November 2015 16: 25 New
            +9
            We are waiting for the S-300 in Syria.
            1. _Vladislav_
              _Vladislav_ 5 November 2015 16: 27 New
              13
              the main task of the fighters will be "tracking the Russians"

              That's right, it is precisely this goal that the F-15 is pursuing in Turkey.
              Despite the fact that in Syria, most likely, there are Russian S-300 air defense systems, the interception group can also be expanded. The MiG-31 would help strengthen air superiority.

              In addition, in terms of legality and sanity.
              Syria - has every right to declare a no-fly zone over its territory. (The actions of the Western coalition are not legitimate, it is a fact, as it were). And to identify the Russian aerospace forces as a force that will provide such a zone.

              PS
              In general, the military presence in Syria needs to be expanded. It is not necessary to send a contingent at all, it can be achieved by (and using) the deployment of various systems and an increase in the number of aircraft.
              1. uhu189
                uhu189 5 November 2015 16: 40 New
                19
                What air superiority are you talking about? Superiority over whom? Above the Turkish Air Force, or the Israeli Air Force with their hundreds of fighters? You go down to earth, for God's sake. And why in Syria MIG-31? In flight, the interceptor interacts with the air defense system, and in Syria it seems to have been a focal point for a long time, and not a single one, and it cannot be used effectively. Su-30 is quite up to its task - the cases of attacks on our bombers and attack aircraft from the air are still unknown, but they were not tasked with protecting the airspace of the whole country.
                1. _Vladislav_
                  _Vladislav_ 5 November 2015 18: 04 New
                  +1
                  Quote: uhu189
                  What air superiority are you talking about? Superiority over whom? Above the Turkish Air Force, or the Israeli Air Force with their hundreds of fighters? You go down to earth, for God's sake. And why in Syria MIG-31? In flight, the interceptor interacts with the air defense system, and in Syria it seems to have been a focal point for a long time, and not a single one, and it cannot be used effectively. Su-30 ......

                  Understanding the complexity of the geographical situation, I am ready to admit your point of view is correct. At least partially.

                  The vulnerability of your position is that the Su-30s fly in the sky with air-to-air missiles under the wings. What for? Turkey and Israel have hundreds of aircraft. They want to bring down. But it’s kind of not supposed to, we kind of like a nuclear power. So what happens?

                  P.E. taking into account the fact that the activity of foreign air forces will only grow with time. There is a need to attract additional forces.
                  Why remembered the MiG-31. Well, this aircraft can carry under the wing of UR R-37 whose range is about 300 km. If there is a difficulty in applying it over Syria due to, as you say, air defense systems, these are the details. There are other aircraft that can use the R-37 (such as the Su-27, Su-35).

                  As for the tasks of controlling the entire airspace over Syria. Such a challenge is not worth it yet, but a couple of months ago there were no tasks to bomb ISIS. Such a task will inevitably come if the Russian Aerospace Forces and the SAR army want to achieve success in a military company (by the fact that it is not known how many more Americans will dump aid to terrorists). And therefore, an increase in the number of aircraft (and other complexes) is vital for increasing intensity.

                  Superiority in the air - is not necessarily achieved as a result of military clashes in the air. In this case (in Syria), it is achieved by the number of aircraft capable of intercepting air targets at long distances. The more such devices there are, the less temptation will be to test them for strength. An increase in interceptors in the sky of Syria is a prerequisite for you not to speak.

                  It’s clear that Israel and Turkey are not going to fight with our planes yet. But they will not be assembled for a long time if the number of our aircraft grows. Whatever you say.
                  1. uhu189
                    uhu189 5 November 2015 20: 09 New
                    +6
                    You understand that it is difficult to build up the group more than now, because immediately there are enormous difficulties in supply, the theater of operations is too far from Russia. In addition, an increase in the aviation group will automatically raise the question of new bases, an increase in technical personnel, and ground forces guarding these bases, and all this will require even greater supply and costs. We will get even more involved in this war. Then it will be necessary to participate in ground offensive operations to speed up the process, since it is already obvious that the Syrians simply do not have enough forces to attack. And then what do you understand? What are the prospects? Too late we intervened. About 3 years ago, it would be possible to resolve the issue by the air group in 50 aircraft. And now 150 without a ground operation will not help restore the situation in Syria. Are we ready to fight the army in Syria? I think for everyone the answer is obvious ...
                    1. Lt. Air Force stock
                      Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 22: 52 New
                      +2
                      Quote: uhu189
                      because immediately there are huge difficulties with the supply, the theater is too far from Russia.

                      And many more on the site say that Russia does not need aircraft carriers. Just having a full-fledged aircraft carrier with a large air wing, Russia could not bother with an increase in the supply of the ground forces of the airborne forces, but could quietly work on targets from it.
                    2. mvg
                      mvg 6 November 2015 03: 02 New
                      0
                      Namesake, don't argue with the military lol only 4 Su-30s, and crush 10-ok American F-15S / D, and a couple of hundred Turkish F-16s, which the Jews just recently modernized. At the same time, we’ll burn their base (Izhirlik), we won’t even see that 60 TNW units (61 bombs) are stored there, so that it doesn’t appear a little (at the same time we will avenge the Kurds).
                      And for our Black Sea Fleet As part of the Moscow guards cruiser, the Mirage missile defense system, it will not be difficult at all to trample 16 submarines from the Turks, despite the fact that these treacherous Janissaries also have a bunch of modern frigates ... BAL and BASTION to help us. .
                      В крайнем случае, "см" у хохлов из "Украину", достроим, как Нихимова.. и туда же, в эту мясорубку!!! Добивать остатки турок и брать пленных ( с туристами/ками бы не перепутать) repeat and we are in the ladies ..
                  2. Taagad
                    Taagad 6 November 2015 01: 45 New
                    +2
                    The Vietnamese shot down the planes of the US nuclear power. The Jews shot down in 1970, 5 MIG-21 nuclear power-the USSR. Hezbollah terrorists shot down a helicopter from an Israeli nuclear power in 2006. And nothing happened. A nuclear weapon is a paper tiger. You can scare, you can’t use ...
              2. ty60
                ty60 5 November 2015 16: 44 New
                +3
                According to today's reports, air defense missiles were sent to Syria. The number and type were not reported.
              3. veksha50
                veksha50 5 November 2015 17: 05 New
                +2
                Quote: _Vladislav_
                can be achieved by (and using) the deployment of various systems and an increase in the number of aircraft.



                Delivery is problematic ...
              4. glavnykarapuz
                glavnykarapuz 5 November 2015 19: 05 New
                +4
                _Vladislav_ I'm certainly wildly sorry here, but where does the MIG-31 AT ALL ??
                Я не такой великий стратег, но тут даже я, со своим далёким от авиации умишком понимаю, что "31-ый" создан и используется ДЛЯ СОВСЕМ ДРУГИХ ЗАДАЧ. Тут на сайте много хороших статей про тактическое и стратегическое применение МиГ-31.
                And it is obvious (who is good with memory and who knows how to use the site search) that the MiG-31 is not an air superiority vehicle, but an interceptor.
                Думаю, что то вы _Владислав_, что то лишнего "ляпнули" присовокупив в своей речи МиГ. wink
                1. _Vladislav_
                  _Vladislav_ 5 November 2015 19: 23 New
                  0
                  Quote: glavnykarapuz
                  Думаю, что то вы _Владислав_, что то лишнего "ляпнули" присовокупив в своей речи МиГ.

                  I commented on this moment in my second post above.
            2. figwam
              figwam 5 November 2015 16: 32 New
              +2
              Quote: Temples
              We are waiting for the S-300 in Syria.

              СУ-30 превосходит F-15 без С-300, это показали учебные бои на учениях "Красный флаг"
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 5 November 2015 17: 08 New
                +4
                Quote: figvam
                СУ-30 превосходит F-15 без С-300, это показали учебные бои на учениях "Красный флаг"



                Doctrines are doctrines, and real combat conditions are completely different, and other factors are connected here ...

                The stump is clear that in the cabins on both sides the best of the best will sit, not green beginners ...
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              3. Marconi41
                Marconi41 6 November 2015 00: 24 New
                +2
                Quote: figvam
                СУ-30 превосходит F-15 без С-300, это показали учебные бои на учениях "Красный флаг"

                SU-30 there are only 4 pcs. If they are confronted even by the same amount of F-15, they will not have to easily protect their own bombers, and if the superiority is at least 50 percent greater (6 units versus 4), then the matter is a pipe, losses are inevitable. So let's not idealize our videoconferencing and not solve military problems as it should, comprehensively. Air defense should be required.
            3. ssergn
              ssergn 5 November 2015 17: 06 New
              +1
              There already is something like that. The Commander-in-Chief of the press reported on certain air defense systems, although the truth about what to slander is unclear.
            4. hydrox
              hydrox 5 November 2015 17: 12 New
              0
              Quote: Temples
              We are waiting for the S-300 in Syria.


              We absolutely do not need an arms confrontation with the United States in the sky of Syria. Our task with the help of REP means is to prevent amers from entering the Syrian sky - they only need a single downed American plane, and therefore they launch what is cheaper or has exhausted their resources.
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch 5 November 2015 20: 08 New
                +4
                Quote: hydrox
                using REP tools

                Is this Timati or what? laughing
            5. nikolaj1703
              nikolaj1703 5 November 2015 17: 32 New
              0
              Already there, see the performance of the commander of the VKS.
            6. Prapor-527
              Prapor-527 5 November 2015 20: 54 New
              0
              Quote: Temples
              We are waiting for the S-300 in Syria.

              So they are there ... hi Russia sent anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria to protect itself from possible hijackings of military aircraft and air strikes.

              This was announced by the commander in chief of the aerospace forces of Russia Viktor Bondarev.

              “We have calculated all possible threats. We put there not only fighters, attack aircraft, bombers, helicopters, but also anti-aircraft missile systems.

              Because there can be various kinds of force majeure circumstances. Let's say hijacking a combat aircraft on the territory of a state adjacent to Syria and strike at us. And we must be ready for this, ”said Bondarev.
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        2. Vladimir Pozlnyakov
          Vladimir Pozlnyakov 5 November 2015 16: 39 New
          +1
          И ответил: "Пужают? А мы ужо пужатые!"
        3. ty60
          ty60 5 November 2015 16: 43 New
          +3
          Fart! I will correct you slightly in relation to today ... hi
      2. Now we are free
        Now we are free 5 November 2015 16: 48 New
        +5
        The author of the article does not exclude the possibility that the main task of fighters will become "Tracking the Russians."
        Tracking missile load under the belly? .. laughing Obama wants to make a good face on a bad game. That will send 50 commandos to the territory of Syria, the jester knows where specifically, then the IGL will send to Turkey with VV type missiles to monitor the Russians ...
        Most likely, the arrived IGLs, as it may sound strange, are designed to cool the excessively hot Turkish heads, so that they would not be too keen on exterminating ISIS ... OY Kurds (New beloved wife of the US State Department).
        Isn’t it funny? Americans take off from Turkish airfields to control the Turkish Air Force ...

        Is the US occupying its NATO allies? What are you speaking about!..
        1. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 5 November 2015 18: 30 New
          +1
          They have long been squinting at Turkish air strikes against the Kurds. But they can’t even hinder. There are too many interests in this area, and moreover they are differently directed. Plus, its economic benefit should not be thrown aside there, it is manifested strongly.
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      4. avg
        avg 5 November 2015 16: 52 New
        +1
        ... to patrol the border with Syria to intercept Syrian planes and helicopters, which repeatedly flew into Turkish territory.

        And why not support Greece, on whose territory Turkish planes have repeatedly flown.
        Conclusion for the Poles, the Baltic states and so on. Young Europeans: Mattress workers, even NATO, have double standards ... request
      5. hydrox
        hydrox 5 November 2015 17: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The provocation is clearly being prepared .... See Erdogan!

        Erdogan has nothing to do with it :: Incirlik and Diyarbakir - NATO airbases.
        Only the Kraukhi who are stationed (for today) in Latakia and Aleppo, then, (and certainly!) In Raqqa will help here.
        Thus, the entire border area of ​​Turkey will be completely closed for flights.
      6. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 5 November 2015 17: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The provocation is clearly being prepared .... See Erdogan!

        Not Erdogan needs to watch - ours. There, on Channel One, there was Sunday news - they intercepted a conversation between Mishiko of Odessa and some Georgian. They scored, they say, everyone on Kuev with this Syria, they forgot about us, so, he says, they will throw with the dough. A batch of Georgian specialists is already ready, including those who can handle MANPADS in order to flood an American plane and blame ours on this. The Americans, he says, will support us, he and McCain have already rubbed it.

        I really do not think that the First will deal with such a frank throw. Rather, they actually dug up something. And, knowing Mishiko, it's easy to believe it. And America is a provocateur country in general.

        And if the Americans are led to this, they will freeze some inadequate nonsense, and ours can adequately respond ... And away we go? .... And all because of one paranoid?
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 5 November 2015 16: 17 New
      +6
      The US Air Force sends about 10 F-15 fighters to the Inzhirlik base in Turkey to provide cover for its attack aircraft and bombers,


      US rolled down, repeat the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces laughing
      1. Darkoff
        Darkoff 5 November 2015 16: 19 New
        11
        With the difference that the Russian Aerospace Forces performs specific tasks, and the Americans are engaged in fraud
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 5 November 2015 17: 20 New
        +2
        Quote: Sith Lord
        US rolled down, repeat the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces

        Only with the difference that these Needles do not have officially declared tasks for such weapons:
        1. The Needles themselves in the area of ​​the Krasukh will be blind and deaf.
        2. Needle weapons will be useless in the event of impossibility of their control and guidance.
        3. Только полный балбес и сдуру может полезть в "русский пузырь".
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    4. vkl-47
      vkl-47 5 November 2015 16: 21 New
      +6
      Another arrogant lie pen.dosnikov. How can you perceive any kind of information from them if they CONSTANTLY lie. They don’t even know what is true. Deceitful people
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    6. little girl15
      little girl15 5 November 2015 16: 31 New
      +2
      "I did not say that it is not connected with Russia."
      And against whom else? Turkey itself would have fought off the Syrian Air Force.
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 5 November 2015 17: 36 New
        +2
        Yeah, it's like missile defense in Europe from the Iranian ICBMs, but for some reason around the perimeter of Russia.
    7. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 5 November 2015 16: 36 New
      +1
      Do not give in, but fall.
      Like the Jewish F-16 5June 2014 in December and 6 of Turkish Litaks -reamers + phantomast scout. + 2 Jordanian F-18 and Oldin Shtatovsky EF-18 REP.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 5 November 2015 18: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: Thronekeeper
        Do not give in, but fall.
        Like the Jewish F-16 5June 2014 in December and 6 of Turkish Litaks -reamers + phantomast scout. + 2 Jordanian F-18 and Oldin Shtatovsky EF-18 REP.

        How many things attacked. That's what passions
    8. GSH-18
      GSH-18 5 November 2015 16: 44 New
      0
      The author of the article does not exclude the fact that the main task of the fighters will be “tracking the Russians.”

      It is still unknown who will follow whom!
    9. Tor5
      Tor5 5 November 2015 16: 59 New
      0
      Obviously, such weapons are not good, well, well.
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    11. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 5 November 2015 18: 22 New
      +1
      Russia has long been declared Its VKS work only on the territory of Syria. It is officially invited. The rest does not concern it. US planes fly wherever they want and over the territory of Syria they are already exchanging information through the military channel with the Russian Aerospace Forces. Everything is fine.
    12. Nick
      Nick 5 November 2015 18: 43 New
      0
      Quote: figvam
      F-15C aircraft gaining superiority in the air, and if FSA collide with Syrian aviation, who should give in to whom?

      In the Syrian sky, of course, the United States is obliged to cede. They are the guests in Syria, and the uninvited, who are known to be worse ... wink
    13. Lapot
      Lapot 5 November 2015 21: 32 New
      0
      New video of Russian air strikes in Syria in one clip with a musical background (5 in 1):
  2. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 16: 15 New
    10
    What is the use of these F-15s when we already have four Su-30SM + air defense systems there? In which case, our air defense and those escorted and escorts will be destroyed in one gulp.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 5 November 2015 16: 18 New
      10
      Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
      What is the use of these F-15s when we already have four Su-30SM + air defense systems there? In which case, our air defense and those escorted and escorts will be destroyed in one gulp.

      Caution is needed here ... Something is obviously being planned! hi
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 16: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Caution is needed here ... Something is obviously being planned!

        Well, as an option, you can also fly the A-50U AWACS aircraft, and send some ground-based electronic warfare systems like Krasukha-2 or Krasukha-4 to Syria.
      2. Sashka
        Sashka 5 November 2015 16: 50 New
        +3
        А что не понятного. Мир переступил точку невозврата, когда ВВП изложил свои позиции на юбилейной ассамблее ООН. С ним США категорически не согласились и пошли в противостояние. Теперь только вопрос времени. Турция заявила, что будут сбивать всех, кто приблизится к ее границам. Следом, Китай озвучил аналогичную позицию, что вполне возможны военные действия из-за американских кораблей вблизи спорных территорий. Ну и подпевалы из ЕС позиционируются аналогично Турции. Противоборствующие лагери практически сформировались. Ну а за наращиванием оружия по всему Миру всем очевидно. Даже "немиллитаризованная" Япония как засуетилась. Прибалты с помощью США. Да и США пичкают вокруг нас свои базы оружием, техникой. Ну, кто еще думает, что дипломатия возьмет верх?!
        Good day to all!
    2. uhu189
      uhu189 5 November 2015 16: 44 New
      +6
      Please do not exaggerate, the balance of power in Syria is clearly not on our side, plus most of the supply of our group depends on whether Turkey will let our BDK pass or not ... Of course, we need air defense of our bases, and the Turks and the US have to reckon with this, no one He doesn’t argue, but to make such statements is unreasonable to say the least ...
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 16: 57 New
        0
        Quote: uhu189
        Please do not exaggerate, the balance of power in Syria is clearly not on our side, plus most of the supply to our group depends on whether Turkey will let our BDK pass or not ...

        Well, if they don’t miss it, it will already be an aggressive act on their part. In any case, the supply still goes through the air through Iran and Iraq with the Il-76th and An-124th. Iraq and Iran are on our side in this conflict, at least we have a common coordination headquarters.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 5 November 2015 17: 20 New
          0
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          Well, if they don’t miss it, it will already be an aggressive act on their part.



          Well, what will you do to them ???

          Here they (the Turks) framed us with the multi-billion dollar Turkish Stream project ... So what ???

          They will find a reason not to let our BDK through the Bosphorus ... So what ???

          PS When I try to say that history develops in a spiral fashion, and that Constantinople appeals to the Russians, come on, somehow this issue is bypassed ... And this is not an appeal to unleash wars ... Turkey has a strait that has important international significance ... And if she launches all kinds of Amer’s laibes in the Black Sea, and ours doesn’t let them through, then it will be too much, to endure such spit in the face ...
          1. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 17: 34 New
            0
            Quote: veksha50
            Well, what will you do to them ???

            Here they (the Turks) framed us with the multi-billion dollar Turkish Stream project ... So what ???

            They will find a reason not to let our BDK through the Bosphorus ... So what ???

            PS When I try to say that history develops in a spiral fashion, and that Constantinople appeals to the Russians, come on, somehow this issue is bypassed ... And this is not an appeal to unleash wars ... Turkey has a strait that has important international significance ... And if she launches all kinds of Amer’s laibes in the Black Sea, and ours doesn’t let them through, then it will be too much, to endure such spit in the face ...

            Economic blackmail and blocking of our fleet are one thing. Russia in response can block the Turkish fleet located in the Black Sea, place our warships in the Mediterranean Sea and also block the channel with our ships, Turkey will let the ships pass, and we will block them in the Mediterranean Sea and drown if necessary. Erdogan is not crazy; in the event of a war, Turkey will be the first to suffer.
            1. uhu189
              uhu189 5 November 2015 18: 05 New
              +1
              Dear Air Force reserve lieutenant, if there is time - take a look at the quantitative and qualitative composition of the Northern (Black Sea) fleet of Turkey, I'm afraid you will be unpleasantly surprised by comparing it with our Black Sea Fleet, so there is still a big question of who will block whom in the Black Sea. The Turks even have more submarines than ours, unfortunately. About the Mediterranean, I think it’s not even worth mentioning. The second important point is that Turkey is a member of NATO, plus Turkey has a very strong and well-trained ground army and air force. Plus, on the territory of Turkey, the US Air Force base Inzherlik, which stores tactical nuclear weapons. What do you think, is it necessary, is it all the Russian Federation? And will we act in this situation from a stronger, more advantageous side?
              1. Lt. Air Force stock
                Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 18: 44 New
                +1
                Quote: uhu189
                Dear Air Force reserve lieutenant, if there is time, take a look at the quantitative and qualitative composition of the Northern (Black Sea) fleet of Turkey, I'm afraid you will be unpleasantly surprised by comparing it with our Black Sea Fleet, so there is still a big question of who will block whom in the Black Sea.

                The size of the fleet is not important, coastal missile systems and aircraft with long-range missiles are able to cope with the surface fleet, and for the submarine fleet there will soon be 6 Varshavyanka + Alrosa.
                Quote: uhu189
                Plus, on the territory of Turkey, the US Air Force base Inzherlik, which stores tactical nuclear weapons. What do you think, is it necessary, is it all the Russian Federation? And will we act in this situation from a stronger, more advantageous side?

                Russia has several times more tactical nuclear weapons than strategic ones. The question is whether Erdogan is ready to go to the end, so he, unlike other NATO countries, does not follow Washington silently, but pursues an external regional policy independently, constantly provoking Greece, which is also a NATO member, does not agree with the US plan for the Kurdish question, etc.
                Turkey is not a mongrel who is blindly following the US.
                1. uhu189
                  uhu189 5 November 2015 18: 54 New
                  0
                  What will be 6 is the future, and now there are only 2. In addition, coastal missile systems and aviation are not only the prerogative of Russia, Turkey also has them.
                  But I sincerely hope that things will never come to a collision.
                  1. Lt. Air Force stock
                    Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 19: 28 New
                    0
                    Quote: uhu189
                    In addition, coastal missile systems and aviation are not only the prerogative of Russia, Turkey also has them.

                    They how these coastal complexes will help to overcome ours?
                    1. uhu189
                      uhu189 5 November 2015 20: 12 New
                      0
                      Ours - nothing, but not about them. Remember what you proposed to do to the Black Sea Fleet -
                      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
                      Economic blackmail and blocking of our fleet are one thing. Russia in response can block the Turkish fleet located in the Black Sea, place our warships in the Mediterranean Sea and also block the channel with our ships, Turkey will let the ships pass, and we will block them in the Mediterranean Sea and drown if necessary. Erdogan is not crazy; in the event of a war, Turkey will be the first to suffer.

                      Tell me, how do you imagine this?
                      1. Lt. Air Force stock
                        Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 22: 57 New
                        0
                        Quote: uhu189
                        Tell me, how do you imagine this?

                        Partially by the forces of the Baltic, Northern and Pacific Fleets (it is unlikely that the blockage will occur suddenly, therefore there will be time to concentrate the connection of the ships). In general, you need to create a Mediterranean squadron as in the days of the USSR.
              2. Taagad
                Taagad 6 November 2015 01: 48 New
                +2
                I would not exaggerate the strength of the Turkish army. Before coming to power, Perdogan conducted regular exercises of the Israeli and Turkish Air Force. The level of Turkish pilots was very low.
    3. veksha50
      veksha50 5 November 2015 17: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      Do we already have four Su-30SM + air defense systems there? In which case, our air defense and those escorted and escorts will be destroyed in one gulp.


      Um ... And what, our delivered complexes cover the entire airspace of Syria ???

      They are intended only to cover the air base ...

      And of course, in your opinion, four Su-30s at the time will destroy 10 F-15s ...

      Stop playing in the kindergarten sandbox ...

      There is an escalation of armaments in the region ... We also need to strengthen the VKS group, Putin and Shoigu talked about this a month ago (the conversation was about increasing the group by another 60 saolettes), but something slowed down ...
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 17: 31 New
        0
        Quote: veksha50
        Um ... And what, our delivered complexes cover the entire airspace of Syria ???

        They say there is an S-300, although what system is not mentioned, but it can be an S-300B4 with a launch range of 400 kilometers, such a launch range actually covers the entire territory of Syria.
        Quote: veksha50

        And of course, in your opinion, four Su-30s at the time will destroy 10 F-15s ...

        There is still the Su-34, which can also work on targets in the air.
        And how do you imagine this? If the US treacherously attacks our base, this is the beginning of the 3rd World War.
        Quote: veksha50
        (the conversation was about increasing the grouping by another 60 sazolets), but something slowed down.

        We need one more airdrome based, it takes time to create it and provide everything you need.
      2. WUA 518
        WUA 518 5 November 2015 17: 33 New
        +3
        Quote: veksha50
        Stop playing in the kindergarten sandbox ...
    4. WUA 518
      WUA 518 5 November 2015 17: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      What is the use of these F-15s when we already have four Su-30SM + air defense systems there?

      Four against ten, and air defense base cover. One salvo means? Oh well.
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 17: 44 New
        0
        Quote: WUA 518
        Four against ten, and air defense base cover. One salvo means? Oh well.

        Air defense is not a fact that covers only the base, S-300V4 or S-400 can cover the whole country.
        Multi-channel air defense systems can simultaneously fire up to 36 air targets with up to 72 missiles pointing at them.
        1. uhu189
          uhu189 5 November 2015 18: 09 New
          +1
          This is in the presence of a deployed radar field, an established data exchange and control system. What do you think, in the context of the 4 years of continuous civil war, blockade or destruction of more than half of the air force bases in Syria all this is? It’s not even sure that the new S-300 systems can be integrated into the general air defense system of Syria, it is entirely possible that they work locally only to protect Russian targets from air attacks, nothing more.
          1. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 5 November 2015 18: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: uhu189
            There is even no certainty that it will be possible to integrate the new S-300 systems into the general air defense system of Syria, it is quite possible that they work locally only to protect Russian objects from air attacks, nothing more.

            Military air defense systems do not need any integration into the system, the whole point is just that they can act autonomously following the troops covering them, including on the march. Mobile radars of air defense systems are capable of detecting air targets at ranges up to 600 kilometers. Additionally, you can deploy Sky-M radars.
            Test firing missiles of the S-300V4 complex were carried out, the target was successfully hit at a range of 400 kilometers.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 5 November 2015 19: 41 New
              +1
              Quote: Lt. Air Force stock
              Air defense systems do not need any integration into the system

              Schazz. Of course, any air defense system can work completely autonomously. Each station has its own generator. But the Integrated Air Defense Division is not the same as independent. On fingers it is. Pepelats for five hundred kilometers only took off, and you already waited for it. Not integrated to notice the target, the radar must rotate year-round.
              And so a month in boots in uniform with a gun and hi month in sneakers and underpants
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 5 November 2015 19: 02 New
        -1
        Quote: WUA 518
        Four against ten, and air defense base cover. One salvo means? Oh well

        I understand that a dozen eagles flew to patrol the border with Turkey. And in this regard, to compare with the four Su, ten little eagles will not be enough, under another Needles are sharpened. That is, while a couple of Sushka flies, the whole ten will have time to visit the air.
        Well, do not forget about the grouping of the Navy - among other things, full-fledged air defense divisions
  3. cniza
    cniza 5 November 2015 16: 16 New
    +6
    Everyone is playing, so I want to say who is the boss in the house, it’s only too late, you will fly wherever they allow.
  4. 75 hammer
    75 hammer 5 November 2015 16: 18 New
    +4
    The author of the article does not exclude the possibility that the main task of the fighters will be “tracking the Russians”. --Because of their asses, let them better watch and diapers change more often !!!!!! There is nothing to hear about Yellowstone !!!
  5. Hubun
    Hubun 5 November 2015 16: 19 New
    +5
    here are the dogs, figs as if not to counter the Russian Aerospace Forces
  6. Dormidosha
    Dormidosha 5 November 2015 16: 19 New
    +2
    Вот ведь уродцы!!со всех сторон старушку "Сирию" обложили !!!!!
  7. manguest
    manguest 5 November 2015 16: 20 New
    +3
    If they are not going to act in the area of ​​our air defense, then no question, and the Turks will be encouraged at the same time.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 5 November 2015 17: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: manguest
      If they are not going to act in the area of ​​our air defense, then no question


      Hmm ... Ours are officially there, and these ??? The sky over Syria can turn first into an incomprehensible compote, and then - supposedly unexpectedly - into a dog dump ...

      Honestly, it still amazes me why Assad, with the support of the UN, will not declare a no-fly zone for all aircraft except his own and Russian ...

      Авиация коалиции совершает натуральный разбой, действуя в небе Сирии и на ее территории чисто "по желанию и велению своего сердца"...
  8. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 November 2015 16: 21 New
    +7
    In the meantime, the work continues ... We wet the devils, until the screech! hi
  9. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 5 November 2015 16: 23 New
    0
    Apparently someone was very concerned about the new weapons of the IG. Now we are waiting in the news that the coalition aviation successfully shot down 3 condoms launched by the IS by the tailwind towards the USA.

    Pisi: After all, the coalition must then report on victories on the fronts with terrorism.
  10. engineer74
    engineer74 5 November 2015 16: 24 New
    +2
    Подходящие цели для F-15 только российские самолеты! Если турки или НАТО, под прикрытием US AF, начнут бомбить войска Ассада тогда начнется... Пора "Ярсы" и "Тополя" из гаражей выкатывать, чтобы "партнеры" задумались над своим поведением, иначе поздно будет! what
    IMHO
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 5 November 2015 16: 30 New
      +3
      Если наступит пора "выкатывать" ярсы и тополя из гаражей, то задумываться уже поздно будет...имхо
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 5 November 2015 16: 35 New
        +5
        Лучше заранее обозначить "красную линию", вернее то, что за ней будет! У Запада ещё есть возможность отиграть назад, у нас уже нет! Поражение в Сирии похоронит Россию, поэтому терять нам особо нечего!
        Again IMHO.
        1. Mama_Cholli
          Mama_Cholli 5 November 2015 16: 43 New
          +1
          I agree with that. But democracy is a dangerous disease of the brain, as a result leaving only reflexes for a person - to fill the belly and have fun (according to Pavlov).
  11. polite people
    polite people 5 November 2015 16: 26 New
    +4
    No wonder Russia sent anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria. Our intelligence works on 10 steps forward. soldier
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 5 November 2015 16: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: polite people
      No wonder Russia sent anti-aircraft missile systems to Syria. Our intelligence works on 10 steps forward. soldier

      While not working badly! But it’s too early to relax, everything is still ahead ...
  12. Izotovp
    Izotovp 5 November 2015 16: 32 New
    +3
    Возможно они попытаются брать на сопровождение наши самолёты во время выполнения ими боевых задачи и "нечаянно" будут сбивать наши беспилотники.
  13. Junior, I
    Junior, I 5 November 2015 16: 34 New
    +1
    So soon you will have to actively use the Khibiny.
  14. Stiletto
    Stiletto 5 November 2015 16: 38 New
    +4
    Очередная попытка втянуть РФ в "сравнительную пенисометрию". Для нас главное - не вестись на это, спокойно и дальше делая свое дело. В противном случае все сведется к выкатыванию аргументов "дальше, толще и длинше" каждой из сторон, до тех пор, пока скрытое противостояние не станет явным.
  15. gladcu2
    gladcu2 5 November 2015 16: 39 New
    +1
    Everything goes along the Vanga.

    Until Syria fell. And the last battle will be over the Black Sea. When Russia will defeat the US air force.

    It is true there was a nuclear war.

    What annoys me these movements of military equipment.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 November 2015 16: 53 New
      0
      Quote: gladcu2

      What annoys me these movements of military equipment.

      Everything will be as it will be. People themselves are to blame for everything.
  16. Mordan
    Mordan 5 November 2015 16: 41 New
    +1
    Incirlik is not only an airfield but also an underground warehouse for storing nuclear air bombs.
  17. slaw14
    slaw14 5 November 2015 16: 49 New
    -1
    It is desirable to change the title:
    "ВВС США сбывает Турции очередной металлолом".
  18. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 5 November 2015 16: 53 New
    0
    The vile country and the vile nation gathered in the USA. Well, nothing. the time will come. Although now you need to use the moment and feel what a vaunted F-16 is
  19. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 5 November 2015 16: 56 New
    +1
    The Anglo-Saxons are well aware that Russia has not come to Syria for 3 months, so they are doing everything to limit our grouping in maneuvers. I think the leadership also understands this since they began to deploy air defense systems and are preparing to strengthen the naval group. In any case, God is with us and not a geyropa and pen-dossia.
  20. Kibl
    Kibl 5 November 2015 17: 00 New
    0
    If the IS has no combat aircraft, the question begs .........
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 6 November 2015 00: 39 New
      0
      Quote: KIBL
      If the IS has no combat aircraft, the question begs .........

      Well, what are our SU-30s doing there? The question is the same ...
  21. Roman13
    Roman13 5 November 2015 17: 03 New
    +1
    America, everything can’t calm down in any way. One hundred percent want to throw some kind of a trick on us.
  22. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 5 November 2015 17: 03 New
    +2
    Good news, you must agree guys .. hi Not quite sure, but still there is hope that peaceful life in Syria will improve!
    The route from Aleppo to the provinces is open to civilians. The road on the Salamia-Aleppo stretch is safe, Khaled Mhanna, a resident of the Hanaser settlement. He noted that the army has already equipped roadblocks. On Wednesday, it became known that the army regained control of the strategically important Homs-Hama highway in the north of the country, on the Salamia-Aleppo stretch. Engineering troops began clearing and defusing improvised bombs planted by terrorists before retreating.
    "Сегодня утром военные разрешили проехать грузовикам, от Ханасер в Алеппо, нам (гражданскому транспорту — ред.) дали добро спустя два часа. Дорога безопасна. Армия уже оборудовала блокпосты", — сказал собеседник агентства.

    RIA Novosti ria.ru/syria_peace/20151105/1314343085.html#ixzz3qco4 ..

    God bless Syria and Russia!
  23. Turkir
    Turkir 5 November 2015 17: 08 New
    +1
    I have a different opinion. They sent planes to Erdogan to feel the long arm of the State Department.
    А то, по мнению США, что-то он часто стал встречаться с Путиным, как бы чего не вышло. Пусть Эрдоган чувствует стальную "поддержку" Фашингтона.
    It is called differently - to keep an ally on a short leash.
  24. Diviz
    Diviz 5 November 2015 17: 13 New
    0
    Why not put s400 in latakia on duty and more devices with electronic warfare. They will begin to bomb the Syrian army there.
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 5 November 2015 17: 37 New
      0
      Supreme Commander-in-Chief of NATO Forces in Europe, General Philip Breedlove, believes that the Russian air defense systems in Syria are not designed to fight against IS and are threat to the alliance
      http://www.rbc.ru/politics/01/10/2015/560cf5239a79476ba48c3ae8

      --
      So why did they fly in if air defense frightens them?
  25. Fearless
    Fearless 5 November 2015 17: 30 New
    0
    Oh Erdogan, they’re preparing your ass and you’ll be pulled without Vasilin. He believes that they help him.
  26. rfv0304
    rfv0304 5 November 2015 17: 30 New
    +1
    Я бы на месте наших командующих не только усиливал бы группировку защиты но и увеличил бы количество ракетных крейсеров как надводного так и подводного и воздушного базирования направленных конкретно на США. В наш век интернета этого должно быть достаточно. Не все же в Америке "дятлы".
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 5 November 2015 17: 47 New
      0
      Yes, yes and explain this by the fact that our boats need outside water to cool the reactor.
  27. roskot
    roskot 5 November 2015 18: 30 New
    0
    Vultures flock. It is necessary to have time to share the prey.
  28. glavnykarapuz
    glavnykarapuz 5 November 2015 19: 23 New
    0
    Here, many write about the S-300 for Syria.
    Where does this information come from? Did you personally tell your uncle, a secret general, in the kitchen / bathhouse / cottage? wink
    Была тут новость про поставку систем ПВО Сирии, НО там не было написано про С-300, а было про "Бук" и "Панцирь-С1". Что в принципе логичнее и дешевле. Да и инфраструктуру очень дорогую и сложную как для С-300 не нужна(на мой взгляд).
    Here, many along the way do not represent, in order for the S-300 to work efficiently, you can’t do only with the standard armament from the kit, but calculations must be trained at least. Correct me the air defense (real), if I'm wrong.
    P.S. purely my personal opinion. I do not pretend to be objective.
    1. mvg
      mvg 5 November 2015 20: 28 New
      0
      Информация была на рамблере, поэтому недостоверная... там журналисты частенько говорят такие фразы: "И перехватчики Су-25... бомбардировщики Ми-35... и т.д."
      So you can’t believe .. Not a single photograph of the 300s in Syria. But there are Shells, BUKs and Kraukha .. and they will be smaller in size .. 300 AFAR antenna cannot be hidden ..
      There was infa, the old one, that Damascus was closed by 300s, supposedly for this the Jews rolled their Air Force to Greece, in order to study on the spot the possibilities of overcoming such air defense. Then they came in from Libya and banged the Yakhonts for BALs .. and SIC near Damascus ..
      Yellow infa .. you need to ask those who are sitting closer .. These are such users, with a flag in the form of 6 final asterisk .. No.
  29. Tusv
    Tusv 5 November 2015 20: 12 New
    0
    Quote: glavnykarapuz
    Correct me the air defense (real), if I'm wrong.

    "Бук" и "Панцирь-С1" оружие прикрытия дивизионных комплексов С-300 дивизионный комплекс - оружие длинной руки. Если Бук и Пацирь можно подавить десятком ХАРМов, То до С300 ХАРМ тупо не долетит - носитель будет раньше уничтожен.
    And if they are together, then this is a gun with a kind word.
    Something like this
  30. mvg
    mvg 5 November 2015 20: 20 New
    +2
    Quote: _Vladislav_

    The vulnerability of your position is that the Su-30s fly in the sky with air-to-air missiles under the wings. What for? Turkey and Israel have hundreds of aircraft. They want to bring down. But it’s kind of not supposed to, we kind of like a nuclear power. So what happens?

    P.E. taking into account the fact that the activity of foreign air forces will only grow with time. There is a need to attract additional forces.
    Why remembered the MiG-31. Well, this aircraft can carry under the wing of UR R-37 whose range is about 300 km. If there is a difficulty in applying it over Syria due to, as you say, air defense systems, these are the details. There are other aircraft that can use the R-37 (such as the Su-27, Su-35).

    The Su-30SM covers our drummers, just psychologically, so that the Turks, Qatars, Saudis feel that the 24th and 25th are not defenseless birds. What will be the answer.
    Кого собрались "валить" Р-37? Заправщик америкосовский? Или очередного пассажира..? Больше эта штука ни в кого не попадет на 300 км.. да и на меньшей дистанции тоже вряд ли.. не та фигня.. зато дорогая.
    To the statement of Syria about the no-fly zone over the country, I don’t even know what to say ... sad Then, in advance, you need to have 10-15 300PMU2 divisions there, cover them with BUKs and TORs, and with their Shells and MANPADS. And next to keep a few Points-U with tactical nuclear weapons, it’s better a dozen two .. And cover this whole farm from the ground .. Since the S-300s are not fired at the tanks .. And then you can just drink on diplomacy, since from a position of strength it’s dictated there nothing and no one ..
    PS: So understanding, the task of Russia: to leave Assad (or the pro-Assad coalition government) in power, to keep the country in its territory as much as possible (it is clear that the Kurds will leave), to somehow agree with the Sunnis (well, not all the same bearded thugs), build 2 bases (Latakia, Tartus), show your importance on the BV, save a piece of oil / pipeline to Europe (so that cheap Qatar oil does not immediately pour in), promote Russian weapons in a potentially very rich market. And all this with the least loss. Most importantly, leave more bad bearded guys in BV, preferably dead ..
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 5 November 2015 20: 28 New
      0
      Quote: mvg
      Since the S-300 tanks do not burn

      Drills were conducted to hollow tanks from the S-125. The tanks were politely dumped, and here with the 300s the NATO troops equated to tactical weapons
  31. Michael easily
    Michael easily 5 November 2015 21: 13 New
    0
    - At the same time, she noted: "I did not say that this is not connected with Russia." - read the opposite)
  32. KnightRider
    KnightRider 5 November 2015 21: 14 New
    0
    Российскую авиагруппу в Латакии прикрывают поставленные в Сирию комплексы ПВО "Панцирь" и Бук" - источник

    Moscow. November 5. INTERFAX-AVN - Protection of Latakia air base from possible terrorist attacks from land and air is ensured by anti-aircraft missile and gun systems delivered to Syria "Pantsir-C1" and medium-range air defense systems "Бук-М2Э", сообщил "Интерфаксу-АВН" в четверг военно-дипломатический источник.

    "В Сирии при участии России создана Integrated Air Defense System (OS), которая обеспечивает охрану всех военных и стратегически важных гражданских объектов. В том числе и аэродром Латакия, где сегодня базируется российская авиационная группировка", - сказал собеседник агентства.

    He clarified that in the composition of the Syrian air defense system there are also modernized complexes ПВО "Оса", С-125 "Печора-2М", ЗРС С-200 and other systems.

    "Комплекс этих вооружений позволяет гарантированно обеспечить защиту охраняемого объекта не только от атак с воздуха, но и от ракетных ударов. Построена эта система по аналогии с израильским "Железным куполом"", - подчеркнул собеседник агентства.

    So he commented on the statement of the Commander-in-Chief of the Aerospace Forces of Russia, Colonel-General Viktor Bondarev, who said that Russia had supplied air defense systems to Syria.

    "Мы просчитали все возможные угрозы. Мы туда поставили не только истребители, штурмовики, бомбардировщики, вертолеты, но и зенитные ракетные системы. Потому что могут быть различного рода форс-мажорные обстоятельства. Допустим, угон боевого самолета на территории сопредельного с Сирией государства и нанесение удара по нам. И к этому мы должны быть готовы", - сказал главком в интервью "Комсомольской правде", опубликованном в четверг.
  33. mvg
    mvg 6 November 2015 02: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Semen Semenych
    Quote: hydrox
    using REP tools

    Is this Timati or what? laughing

    Да нет, с тимати американцы договорятся, там половина морячков черного цвета и без загара, а каждый уважающий себя негр - или РЭПер или ученый.. так как ученых на флоте мало, предполагаю, что РЭПер'ы..
  34. mvg
    mvg 6 November 2015 03: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Tusv
    Quote: glavnykarapuz
    Correct me the air defense (real), if I'm wrong.

    "Бук" и "Панцирь-С1" оружие прикрытия дивизионных комплексов С-300 дивизионный комплекс - оружие длинной руки. Если Бук и Пацирь можно подавить десятком ХАРМов, То до С300 ХАРМ тупо не долетит - носитель будет раньше уничтожен.
    And if they are together, then this is a gun with a kind word.
    Something like this

    HARM AGM-88 летит на 180 км со скоростью М=6. Не каждый С-300 на такую дистанцию бабахнет.. Зайдет F-15E, минуты на полторы, в зону действия С-300, бабахнет 3-4 "ХАРМ'ами" и слиняет из зоны. Примерно так. А вообще, в реале, С-300 уничтожат топорам'и.
    Но есть плюсы, и в Югославии, и в Ираке, HARM'ы показали себя очень плохо. Но есть и минусы, С-300 в Сирии нет.. Так что судите сами, хорошо или плохо.. Начнется, если хорошая свалка.. То все это будет бабушкам уже до фени.. Минимум ТЯО.. Максимум - завершим цивилизацию..