Within two days, the aviation of the VKS RF destroyed 237 militant objects in Syria

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The main defense department of the country spread the information that in two days aviation The Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed 237 objects of ISIS and Front al-Nusra militants in Syria. The attacks were carried out on the positions of terrorist groups in the Syrian provinces of Damascus, Homs, Hama, Aleppo, Latakia and Raqqa.

From the message press service Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation:
In the area of ​​the settlement of Harasta-el-Qatar, Damascus province, the warehouse of terrorists of ISIL was destroyed. As a result of the entry of the adjustable bombs into the bunker where the artillery ammunition was stored, the object with all its contents was completely destroyed.

In the suburb of Aleppo, a Su-34 bomber struck a camp designed for training fighters from other countries. As a result of hitting air bombs, the ammunition depot and the training infrastructure for training terrorists were destroyed.


Video of the Su-34 bomber strike:



In the area of ​​the settlement of Salma, the province of Latakia, the command post with the communication center of the large gang formation of the Dzhebhat al-Nusra group, located at the top of one of the tactically important heights, was destroyed. From this command post, the actions of the militants were controlled. The power of the transmitters of the communications center, which was at a given tactical height, made it possible to suppress the radio communications of the units of the Syrian armed forces. The command post with all its contents was completely destroyed by a bomb strike disguised in a mountainous and wooded area.


The Ministry of Defense reports the destruction of Su-25 attackers on the fortified point of militants in the area of ​​the village of Kafer-Nbuda (Hama province). As a result of the airstrike, two units of armored vehicles and several pickups equipped with large-caliber machine guns, as well as with ZU-23 units, were destroyed.

Press Service of the Ministry of Defense:
Direct hits of the bomb destroyed an ammunition depot, as a result of the detonation of which armored vehicles and all-terrain vehicles burned down.


Air strikes on the positions of terrorists in the suburbs of Damascus:



Meanwhile, the Syrian army soldiers have spread the message that the Syrian armed forces managed to gain a foothold in the city of Hazer. The town of Hazer is known for having been the main stronghold of the militants of the Front of Al-Nusra in the province of Aleppo for two years. Residents of the city are asked to be careful and, if possible, not to approach militant targets, in order to avoid accidental civilian casualties during the advance of the Syrian army.

Army intelligence Syrian Armed Forces reports that the newly appointed leader of the local cell of the Ahrar al-Sham terrorist group Abu Ali Naimi has been eliminated in the province of Aleppo.
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  1. +16
    2 November 2015 18: 27
    Wow! Wow! Wow! So soon there will be no "goals"! Leave other flyers! laughing
    1. +32
      2 November 2015 18: 31
      Here the "Syrian opposition" began to fight with ISIS, apparently they were afraid that they would get it too))))
      1. +12
        2 November 2015 20: 18
        German Video: the colonel talks about the new American weapon of the "rebels", I also ask you to pay attention to the German propaganda, they twist it as they want!
        1. +12
          2 November 2015 20: 31
          But the Germans sneezed Amer general:
          1. +4
            2 November 2015 21: 01
            I wouldn’t say that they were especially Czech. So they chided slightly.
          2. win
            +6
            2 November 2015 22: 57
            What delight sounded in the voice of the US General: "We accepted 1900 (one thousand nine hundred) refugees!"
            It is still unknown who they are - "moderate opposition" or militants for further training ...
          3. +1
            5 November 2015 15: 50
            A very indicative flogging of a US general. He could not answer anything intelligible. Only bombast and "pride" in belonging to a "great" and "exclusive" state - the United States. The general does not seem to hear what he is being asked about. To the question: Do you regret what was "done" in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, from where the refugees fled, he replies that the US and NATO have learned a lot. So does he consider the US military operations in these states to be a mistake, the general again says at length that he saved the people there from dictators. Who is saving these people from ISIS now? These are the people of the United States. It seems to them that their participation in any conflict outside the United States should already be regarded as charity on their part. The Americans themselves do not care about the results, as long as it does not concern their domestic policy. What if, next to the United States, in North America, someone "democratizes" neighboring states, and a stream of refugees rushes to the United States?
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        2. +9
          3 November 2015 00: 09
          Serpent Gorynych, impressive, never seen in urban areas, I wonder what remains of the bandits ....
          1. 0
            3 November 2015 06: 21
            Cutting from commercials that I saw about 2 weeks ago. And in an incomprehensible order and mixed up.
          2. +4
            3 November 2015 12: 42
            Quarter as it was ... an eerie sight. Weapons of mass destruction for urban battles, and on the other hand, on the lack of fish and snakes, Gorynich is pretty good at shattering ...
          3. +2
            3 November 2015 17: 48
            UR-77, like, a car for making a passage in a mine
            field by blowing up a sleeve full of explosives?
            Did the Syrians remake it somehow?
            1. 0
              4 November 2015 09: 42
              Why did you decide that they redid it? I understand that the explosion of the sleeve is a destructive force, or they simply use it to make passages in the rubble ...
    2. DDR
      +26
      2 November 2015 18: 32
      Quote: marlin1203
      So soon there will be no "goals" left!

      As long as the "mattresses" sponsor them, there will be goals!
    3. -38
      2 November 2015 18: 39
      These Asadovites, with such support, still manage to retreat (((
      1. +24
        2 November 2015 18: 53
        Quote: Civil
        These Asadovites, with such support, still manage to retreat (((

        In war, everything happens and backtracking does not mean losing, but no one denies that the general situation now is in favor of the ATS army.
    4. +13
      2 November 2015 18: 46
      the camp was intended to train fighters from other countries.


      There is a hunt for wolves, there is a hunt. On gray predators and puppies.
      1. +16
        2 November 2015 20: 12
        Wolves call them a lot of honor. Rather jackals ...
        1. +4
          3 November 2015 12: 08
          Why did the jackals not please you ?!
          Call them simply radical Islamists.
          After all, even pigs are not worthy of such an insult.
    5. +17
      2 November 2015 18: 50
      From October 30 to November 1, 2015, units of the Syrian army, units of the National Defense Forces (NDF) and Lebanese Hezbollah advanced significantly south of Aleppo, liberating at least 7 settlements. After a series of attacks by Russian and Syrian aircraft, government forces from the evening of 30 to noon on October 31 launched an offensive from the village of Kafr Abed (Abid) in the southwestern and western directions.

      During a series of intense clashes, the Allied forces liberated the villages of Mashrafat al-Mrajj, Maryamein, Al-Jumeima (Jmeme), Hamida and the small village of Sbekhiya (Subeykhiya) (with only a few houses).

      In the northern sector of the front (closer to Aleppo), the situation was more complicated. Army and militia attacked the positions of Islamists in the village of Al-Hamra. Within two hours, the settlement was liberated, but the Akhrar al-Sham bandit formations and their allies counterattacked the Karassi settlement, control over a part of which was lost by the military for some time. To date, the army not only regained Karassi, but also advanced close to Khan-Tuman.

      On November 1, the offensive by government forces south of Aleppo continued. An army from Al-Jumeim attacked on the way to the city of Al-Khader and was able to get close to it. A group of militants was blocked and partially destroyed in the village of Shukaidila, which also came under the control of government forces. The militia entered the village of Khirbet al-Naziha south of Kafr Abed.

      The weekend was successful for the Syrian army and Russian aviation in the province of Latakia. Here, more than 10 large targets were destroyed, a small village at the strategically important Gammam height was liberated.

      1. +5
        2 November 2015 19: 20
        It appeared on the map that al-Hader was taken and Jabbul was recaptured for the third time. The meat grinder seems to go just that way. They would have to transfer the turntables near Aleppo to Kveiris, but damn it is dangerous - right on take-off, the Igilovites can cover. And so it’s dangerous for the turntables to fly through an entire province occupied by the enemy.
        1. +4
          2 November 2015 20: 18
          On turntables, I welcome, it is only advisable to run night hunters and nightmare, nightmare ....
    6. +10
      2 November 2015 18: 59
      [quote = marlin1203] Whoa! whoa! whoa! So soon there will be no "goals" left! Leave it to the other flyers! laughing[/ quote
      Man, just do not wow, better cheers!
    7. +21
      2 November 2015 20: 42
      To be honest, I’m not very interested in how many concrete cellars and SUVs with machine guns were bombed there.
      I am interested in such summaries. With the support of Russian aviation, the Asad troops captured such a village, such a hill, liberated a city, and kicked out ISIS from a province like this.
      1. +2
        3 November 2015 12: 13
        Russian aviation does not directly support the Syrian army, for this they have a lot of artillery, Russia doesn’t have time to throw shells at their fleet, they had to buy ships
    8. +8
      2 November 2015 21: 25
      Quote: marlin1203
      Wow! Wow! Wow! So soon there will be no "goals"! Leave other flyers! laughing

      Every ISIS object destroyed by our VKS is a nail in the coffin of American self-confidence ... Well done, guys keep it up .. drinks soldier
  2. 0
    2 November 2015 18: 29
    So our plane attack has fallen.
    1. +5
      2 November 2015 18: 42
      Have you already been given a transcript of the flight recorder records?
      1. +6
        2 November 2015 18: 50
        Come on, you have to grimace with this decoding of recorders. Spread of fragments per 30 square meters. Is this a technical malfunction? or crew error?
        1. -13
          2 November 2015 18: 57
          I personally have only one question. Will our leadership find the strength to say that yes, this is a terrorist attack. We are at war.
          1. +16
            2 November 2015 19: 11
            Quote: Served once
            I personally have only one question. Will our leadership find the strength to say that yes, this is a terrorist attack.


            Yes, this conclusion is the best both for the "management" and for all ministries and companies ... since the topic of the collapse of the aviation industry will not "emerge", with all the ensuing consequences.
            Isn't that hard to understand? wink
            1. +4
              2 November 2015 19: 23
              This conclusion will finish the tourism of Egypt and will raise an ambiguous liberal howl from us and not only. And now our Egypt needs. But I think, if they don’t get stuck, then the commission will report to the truth
              1. +8
                2 November 2015 19: 48
                Quote: Gani
                This conclusion will finish the tourism of Egypt


                Still no terrorist attack on any type of transport ... nor finished off tourism .. and even more so in Egypt (there, like at home in a sanatorium ... some familiar faces ... even in Cyprus and even less lol ).

                Quote: Gani
                will raise an ambiguous liberal howl from us and not only


                But if there is a conclusion that the CIT or a technical malfunction ... then there will definitely be such a "howl and squeal" that it will not seem a little wink

                Although this option suits someone .. they are already coming up with "initiatives" .. but let's do only 3 airlines for the country and we don't need to "arrange another show, like with Transaero - bam and it was .." bankrupt " lol
              2. +4
                2 November 2015 20: 39
                On the contrary, Egypt needs Russia
              3. +2
                3 November 2015 00: 09
                People, just think a little! The terrorist attack is very unlikely:
                1. The plane flew too high when a disaster occurred to be reached by any MANPADS.
                2. If he was shot down from a fighter, then this fighter the Egyptians would have spotted. Any, but they have air defense.
                3. In an explosion on board (someone carried a mine), it is unlikely that the plane would slow down so much. As a rule, in explosions without a speed drop, the spread of debris is much larger.
            2. -1
              2 November 2015 20: 51
              Quote: ancient
              Yes, this conclusion is the best both for the "management" and for all ministries and companies ... since the topic of the collapse of the aviation industry will not "emerge", with all the ensuing consequences.
              Isn't that hard to understand?

              Are you about the collapse of the French aircraft industry? (A321) Sometimes it's better to chew than talk
              1. +15
                2 November 2015 22: 21
                Quote: KnightRider
                Are you about the collapse of the French aircraft industry? (A321) Sometimes it's better to chew than talk
                - European, the EADS company is a joint brainchild of the French, Germans and British. As it turns out (more precisely, I give more than 50% that this is a technical flaw) they fall in the same way as the Russian TU-154. Only Medvedev then took a fancy to "Carcasses", and I will be very indignant if he does not, to a greater extent, call on "Airbus", well, at least because "Carcasses" are ours, dear ones and are made by the hands of our compatriots, and "Airbuses" are production of actually UN-FRIENDLY countries (let's call a spade a spade. Europe is not just a vassal of the United States, especially in the situation of Ukraine, it is a full-fledged DAILER! Only now wants to jump away, but I personally remember not only cookies from the USA, but also from Germany and France, and from Poland - so generally not only cookies!). In addition, Airbuses are falling off only 18 years after operation - is this a vaunted European quality? Yeah wassat wassat Take an interest in the age of those fallen "Carcasses" - you will be dumbfounded.
                True, today someone from the Government has conciliatoryly declared that there is nothing to replace Western aircraft what Unfortunately, I’m right in some ways. But it’s not so necessary to state! am And something like this: from now on, our main goal is to expel low-quality aircraft from the Russian aviation market, and in order to achieve this goal we need to speed up the launch of production of the MS-21 and the development of a long-range joint project with the Chinese. Well, after all, I said essentially the same thing as that bureaucrat - so far there is nothing to replace the European and Amer semi-flying guano (and what is not guano there? ALL !!!), but the message is completely different! Eh, on the one hand, you kick, and on the other, you still look into their mouths according to the old habit, you can’t tell the truth of the uterus in the face of their goat!
                1. +3
                  3 November 2015 02: 40
                  You will wait from the iPhone, after all, even Europe. But in general it was possible to produce the latest models of Tu and Il, while promising liners are developed, anyway it will stretch for years.
          2. +4
            2 November 2015 19: 23
            The plane crashed abroad, the investigation is conducted by foreign experts. How can management conceal anything? By the way, as it turned out, I knew two people from an airplane. A woman worked as a foreman and a guy cameraman. That's how the news from the TV migrates into our lives.
            1. +7
              2 November 2015 19: 50
              Quote: g1v2
              The investigation is conducted by foreign experts. How can management conceal anything?


              And what .. the fresh example of the Malaysian Boeing (as the investigation is underway) does not make .. "think" about the purity of the investigation into the causes of the disaster recourse

              According to your friends .. sincere sympathy soldier
              1. +5
                2 November 2015 20: 44
                Thank . Although friends are not close - just for work, hello, bye. Judging by the list, the woman — the master — was especially sorry for her as a whole family with her husband and seemed like a daughter. In general, every year at the factory in Egypt about a dozen people were sent to rest, well, and then she flew by herself. But on the Boeing - there the investigation was under the complete control of our opponents and they could not dig up anything against us. Here the investigation will be international experts with the participation of the Egyptians and ours. That is, initially we are not under control. Tch chance to hide something miserable. Yes, and why? If there is a terrorist attack, that is, an occasion to tighten the nuts and, if necessary, increase the parameters of the Syrian operation, if necessary. If there is a technical malfunction of the old aircraft, it is possible under this pretext to ban old aircraft and force air carriers to buy new Russian ones. Superjets need to be sold, ms21 is on the way, maybe there will be demand for our long-range IL96. All the same, because of the ruble exchange rate, our planes have become cheaper. I don’t think so. that they can or will want to hide something.
            2. +9
              2 November 2015 20: 48
              Quote: g1v2
              The plane crashed abroad, the investigation is conducted by foreign experts

              no, according to ICAO privileges, the investigation is conducted by the country (the owner of the aircraft) and the country (the place of the crash) - other countries provide information
              those. The investigation is conducted by Russia and Egypt (any country can delegate its authority to any other country) Remember - the investigation is the Netherlands (Ukraine delegated the authority to it) and Malaysia.
          3. +10
            2 November 2015 20: 03
            I do not pretend to be an expert in air crashes. Yes, in this case I’m a couch expert. This site is for people who share their thoughts (right or wrong, time most often argues). The crash is very indicative. Flight: Sharm-S. Petersburg (City not a stranger to GDP and DAM, and even many, many politicians) .18 years old for an airplane. Well, yes, of course. But average. Service is not up to par, counterfeit parts? You can’t be discounted, but it passed a test a year ago in Ireland. Engine failure. Also an option. How many fractions of a second do you need to send a signal to s? What sensors didn’t send a signal to the crew (experienced pilot!) Before the failure? Foreign specialists conduct an investigation? Wonderful. These specialists cannot say why the Boeing is the second year over Ukraine, deviated from the corridor and ended up in a combat zone. Those same specialists with a huge group of satellites can’t publish photos of the tragedy in Ukraine. Yes, and nothing has been published with the Dnepropetrovsk dispatchers. Danish Courage needs GDP to save the lives of our children and adults. And the Egyptian tourism industry should worry us the least. They've got the money to buy the Mistrals! Sorry, maybe he messed up what I think. But before her eyes that girl looking at the runway ... Earth to you rest in peace. Young and old.
            1. +4
              3 November 2015 00: 18
              By the way, about tourism in Egypt. Ours will still fly there, no matter what. After all, this already happened: after the expulsion of the "Muslim brothers" from power, the country was restless, no one went to Egypt to rest, only our tourists. They then saved Egypt's tourism industry. I think it will be so now.
            2. +1
              3 November 2015 08: 35
              An American infrared satellite recorded a thermal outbreak over the Sinai Peninsula when the Kogalymavia Airbus A321 passenger plane was in the sky. This was reported by CBS News.
              It is noted that specialists are studying satellite data for what could cause an outbreak. According to the channel, one of the reasons may be an explosion in the fuel tank or engine, while the option of detonation of the bomb is also possible.
          4. +1
            2 November 2015 20: 12
            Quote: Served once
            I personally have only one question. Will our leadership find the strength to say that yes, this is a terrorist attack. We are at war.

            Maybe it's time to create a tribunal?
            1. 0
              2 November 2015 20: 21
              Did I even say a word about the tribunal?
          5. 0
            2 November 2015 21: 12
            Quote: Served once
            I personally have only one question. Will our leadership find the strength to say that yes, this is a terrorist attack. We are at war.

            Is the investigation already completed? As far as I know, not a single version is excluded, incl. terrorist attack. Do not bother yourself with investigations into the causes of the disaster, anyway, we won’t be able to help here, remember the victims better and support their relatives, sad at least morally, condolences
        2. +9
          2 November 2015 19: 07
          Quote: Mahmut
          Come on, you wriggle with this transcript of recorders.


          And, indeed, well, who needs this transcript of recorders, when the "experts", without getting off their chairs and without wasting time studying the nuances of dozens of similar disasters, have long established the causes of the tragedy ...
        3. +9
          2 November 2015 19: 08
          Quote: Mahmut
          C'mon, you have to grimace with this decoding of recorders. Spread of fragments per 30 square meters. Is this a technical malfunction?


          And what has to do with "grimacing"? Mr. Volodin asked the question very clearly and competently! soldier

          And the version that the engine failed, then a fire and an explosion .. with the failure of all operational systems and life support systems, the plane goes into uncontrollable flight, such as a corkscrew and begins to fall apart from the arising overloads, which are much more than the maximum allowable operational and ... what. ..think the debris from this will fall to a much smaller distance? request
          1. 0
            3 November 2015 10: 14
            But what about the lack of communication from the commander of the ship - the SOS signal.
        4. +9
          2 November 2015 19: 29
          Often the cause of air crashes is poor-quality repair, or the manifestation (over time, as a result of the influence of various types of loads, very intense) that were not detected during the repair of damage (for example, microcracks). As a result, after many years, this can cause tragedy. If the aircraft had a damaged tail at one time (as the media is now talking about), then there really is a chance that this could lead first to a breach of the seal, and subsequently to destruction of the airplane. Since the element of the plane from which the destruction of its glider began to fall first is the first to fall, most likely, it is with the separation of the tail of the aircraft that its subsequent uncontrolled fall is associated. The Kingdom of Heaven to all the dead and deep condolences to the relatives and friends of these people.
          1. +2
            2 November 2015 22: 27
            Quote: Dmitry Ukraine
            Often, the cause of air crashes is poor-quality repair, or the manifestation (over time, as a result of the influence of various types of loads, very intense) that were not detected during the repair damage (for example, microcracks). As a result, after many years, this can cause tragedy. If an airplane had its tail damaged at one time (as the media are now talking about), then there really is a chance that this could lead first to a breach of the seal, and subsequently to destruction of the airplane. Since the element of the plane from which the destruction of its glider began to fall first on the ground, it is most likely that it is due to the separation of the tail of the aircraft that causes its subsequent uncontrolled fall. The Kingdom of Heaven to all the dead and deep condolences to the relatives and friends of these people.
            As already reported, the repairs were made by the manufacturers themselves i.e. Airbus ... poorly repaired ?! belay
            1. 0
              2 November 2015 23: 14
              I cannot say anything - but perhaps this is the main reason. Have you ever tried to "fix" a bent handlebar on a bicycle after falling off it? Are you sure you managed to "align" it? When processing any part, except for geometric dimensions, there are concepts such as "alignment", that is, the coincidence of the axes of your machined nodes and much more. You can talk for a very long time about such things, which then very seriously affect the operation of the entire structure. Therefore, in production, many critical units are made so that their alignment, perpendicularity, etc. provided TECHNOLOGICALLY. That is, directly during production on the machine, "from one installation". OTK (or something similar, for example, military inspectors, "accept" such parts only "on the machine" (or assembly stands) - because these parameters CANNOT be measured under normal conditions after the part (assembly) has left the machine (stand) ...
              1. 0
                3 November 2015 10: 26
                Geometric dimensions, including alignment, are measured and set without much difficulty. There is a concept of "base". A large number of measurements can be made with primitive measuring instruments, and even those that are used in the aviation industry, and after the ship is installed on the slipway, the accuracy by the standards of conventional mechanical engineering is precision. The technology for replacing certain components and assemblies, including structural ones, has been worked out and regulated. And no one will repair the "bent handlebar on a bicycle", it must be replaced.
                1. +1
                  4 November 2015 17: 29
                  Basically I agree with you, but was the repair of this aircraft done in accordance with all the requirements of the regulations? Were the components and structural elements that required such replacement unconditional? It's just that the experience of other accidents shows that in such a complex damage to the aircraft as a serious blow to the tail section of the GDP, the repairs carried out only laid a "time bomb" for passengers and crew of aircraft. My opinion is that in this tragedy the likelihood of a similar factor is very high.
        5. 0
          2 November 2015 20: 45
          there was an explosion inside the plane. here you don’t even need to be an expert.
          1. 0
            2 November 2015 21: 37
            Quote: Cossack Ermak
            there was an explosion inside the plane. here you don’t even need to be an expert.

            100%
          2. +1
            2 November 2015 21: 54
            With all due respect, I disagree. The explosion almost instantly destroys the airframe. Here the plane was literally destroyed in the air "in parts".
            1. -3
              2 November 2015 22: 32
              Quote: Dmitry Ukraine
              With all due respect, I do not agree. The explosion leads to almost instantaneous destruction of the airframe.
              Come on ... by the way, where does such knowledge come from ?! And if not to the multiplicity, but in parts?
              Quote: Dmitry Ukraine
              Here the plane was literally destroyed in the air "in parts".
              Direct observation ?! belay And the case is not at the remote control of a thread of beech sat? They write that Ukraine wants to sell beeches to the Saudis, or maybe the beeches have already been where necessary?
              1. +9
                2 November 2015 22: 58
                "Knowledge":
                1) Higher technical education (mechanical engineer) + 8 years of experience in the largest engineering plant in Ukraine in positions from master to head of the mechanical workshop.
                2) I didn’t sit at the control panel, but we made “mobile towers for the launch of missile posts” for the S-300 in the workshop. "Before me," they made in our workshops "roofs" for ICBMs and various installation manipulators (for example, for installation on the Energia-Buran launch pad) and much more.
                3) There is such a wonderful IAC (in the sense of not drugs, but the site of the Interstate Aviation Committee, on which you can find hundreds of reports on investigations of aircraft accidents and disasters, setting out the reasons for these tragedies)
                4) And there is an enemy program NG, which tells (albeit not always 100% objectively, but still) about "investigations of air crashes."
                5) I will not speak about my second higher education and more than ten years of experience, as well as knowledge in the fields of military systems and technologies.
                Unfortunately, my full commentary on the possible causes of the disaster for some technical reason has not been preserved (I see only its "stump"). In it, I also wrote about the fact that when drawing up a scheme for the fall of an airplane ("crooks"), the first element that fell is the one from which it all began. This element is the tail section. After its separation, centrifugal and centripetal forces gradually destroy the airplane's glider - and THIS is the main difference from an instant explosion in the air.
                1. -5
                  2 November 2015 23: 38
                  1) And what does "Higher technical education (mechanical engineer)" prove ?! belay
                  2) Duck you are a production worker: master ... head of department ?! belay
                  3) And the design engineer who do you know ?! belay
                  4) i.e. do you have a master al chief of a machine shop deep knowledge in the aviation industry? belay
                  5) And there ... the report on the investigation (completed) is already in the IAC ?! belay
                  6) Do you hint about the second highest in the field of investigation of air crashes ?! belay
                  7)
                  Quote: Dmitry Ukraine
                  This element is the tail. After its separation, centrifugal and centripetal forces gradually destroy the airframe - and this is the main difference from an instant explosion in the air.
                  But many people who are really involved in aviation say that there are no "gradual explosions" (an explosion is an explosion !!!) belay laughing belay and that the separation of the tail could have occurred just because of an explosion in the tail.
                  1. +1
                    3 November 2015 00: 30
                    Quote: Dali
                    tail separation could have occurred just because of the explosion

                    Do you like explosions? Probably in childhood did not play enough with carbide and matches. Otherwise, why such a manic desire will present everything as the result of an explosion. I strongly doubt that if there was an explosion in the rear part, then even non-specialists would notice features, such as turned inside out lining. And to hide such a thing would be very difficult, each newspaper would write about it.
                    1. -1
                      3 November 2015 12: 32
                      Quote: Starley from the South
                      Do you like explosions? Probably in childhood did not play enough with carbide and matches.
                      Have you played enough? Why did they go to the army? laughing So do not insult, and do not get in the ass ... You read about the instant explosion in the comment ... i.e. agree ?! belay and in your terminology there is no wet water ?! belay

                      Quote: Starley from the South
                      I strongly doubt that if there was an explosion in the rear part, then even non-specialists would notice features, such as turned inside out lining.


                      And on the account of what they noticed and what not, they can still wait for the real results of the investigation, first of all ...

                      And secondly, as already written (not you), the explosion may not be such that the casing is exposed at the tail of the plane ... but the destruction of the control system, followed by the explosion of fuel tanks ... and not only ... you are a designer of airliners and you know all the weak points, let's say in the same tail section and you know for sure that by laying even a small charge you can get the effect of tail falling off.

                      Thirdly, why didn’t anyone even have a chance to utter a word, that the pilots had no way ?! belay

                      By the way, now they already say that in the sound component of the boxes there were sounds that speak of an emergency situation ...
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                    3. -1
                      3 November 2015 16: 50
                      Quote: Starley from the South
                      I strongly doubt that if there was an explosion in the rear part, then even non-specialists would notice features, such as turned inside out lining.


                      И

                      The disaster over Lockerbie: the cause of the disaster only when it was understood when they began to lay out the fuselage from the broken parts and then they discovered a small hole from the explosive device.

                      So there are options ...
                      1. 0
                        4 November 2015 21: 06
                        Quote: Dali
                        So there are options ...
                        https://news.mail.ru/incident/23857017/?frommail=1
                        Egyptian media called the cause of the fall of the Russian Airbus:
                        The cause of the crash of the Russian Airbus A321 aircraft on the Sinai Peninsula was an explosion in the engine. This was reported to the Egyptian portal Al-Masry Al-Youm by a source in the commission of inquiry, which analyzes the information of the flight recorders of the fallen liner.
                2. -1
                  3 November 2015 10: 32
                  Taking into account engineering education, your arguments listed in the previous comment become more obscure.
        6. SSR
          +2
          2 November 2015 21: 44
          Quote: Mahmut
          Come on, you have to grimace with this decoding of recorders. Spread of fragments per 30 square meters. Is this a technical malfunction? or crew error?

          At one time, one Boeing 747 exploded due to fuel vapors, as it turned out, the vapors ignited the wiring performed without taking into account the possible electrification ... Literally, I can be mistaken in a small detail, but the plane fell apart in the air. The reasons may be different and we must wait for the commission's conclusion. But the Arabs and Europeans banned flying over Sinai for a reason ... And why was one board delayed today for 9 hours? ..... Questions, questions ... And taking into account the dirty "game" with the Boeing over the ruin .... Very dirty "games" are coming.
      2. +3
        2 November 2015 18: 56
        The film is this: the venue cannot be changed. there, an experienced employee teaches a beginner and explains: that any crime can be investigated: someone has seen or heard, and the detective’s task is to build a logical chain in this.
        1. +7
          2 November 2015 19: 36
          Quote: dr.star75
          The film is this: the venue cannot be changed. there, an experienced employee teaches a beginner and explains: that any crime can be investigated: someone has seen or heard, and the detective’s task is to build a logical chain in this.

          This is taking into account the logically interrelated events, but this method is not at all suitable for aviation.
          Read the investigation of the disaster over Lockerbie, the reason for the disaster became clear there only when they began to lay out the fuselage from the broken parts and only there they discovered a small hole from the bomb.
          And in general, the croaking of all kinds of experts - fortune-telling on coffee grounds !!!
          1. +1
            2 November 2015 22: 26
            For the British, "Comets" (their first passenger, jet, who do not know) quite in the air flew into a heap of debris, with explosions and without the participation of any terrorists with bombs what Removed from both flights and production. Not a fighter, tea, and not a dive, do not count, passenger, for such overloads request
  3. +1
    2 November 2015 18: 32
    Brothers (Syrian Armed Forces)! Move as fast as possible!
  4. +15
    2 November 2015 18: 35
    I can only applaud STANDING for our pilots and technical personnel ... Their ability to operate aircraft with such intensity can cause only delight.
    1. +5
      2 November 2015 19: 21
      svp67

      Of course, pilots can applaud.

      But. Do not forget that modest person who has remained in the shadows. Namely, the inventor and industrialist who gave the pilot the equipment.

      And in honesty, remember those sights that freely falling bombs give such amazing accuracy.

      If only that lad would have been given the Hero of Russia during his lifetime.
  5. +7
    2 November 2015 18: 37
    Within two days, the aviation of the VKS RF destroyed 237 militant objects in Syria

    Above all praise! You are just great, real heroes! Keep it up! And so that ALL return home after completing the mission! Yes
    1. +9
      2 November 2015 18: 53
      Quote: GSH-18
      Above all praise! You are just great, real heroes! Keep it up! And so that ALL return home after completing the mission!

      It's right! drinks I would also like to cover this nonsense of Gerashchenko with his Peacemaker with a copper basin so that there would not even be any memory of him and then there would be a lace at all.
      1. +4
        2 November 2015 19: 13
        Quote: NEXUS
        I would also like to cover this nonsense with his Peacemaker Gerashchenko copper basin


        Andrey .. so yes .. and you can do something more positive, but .. now they will read it and start .. "bliss" - "the Russians are finishing destroying Ishil and will soon start after us .... the first target is Gerashchenko's office .. will bomb KAB'jv or launch Caliber " wassat... from them ... will lol
        1. +6
          2 November 2015 19: 16
          Quote: ancient
          Andrey .. so yes .. and you can do something more positive, but .. now they will read it and start .. "bliss" - "the Russians are finishing destroying Ishil and will soon start after us .... the first target is Gerashchenko's office .. will bomb KAB'jv or launch Caliber "

          To paraphrase an old joke:
          - Take care of ISIS! - proclaims Gerashchenko.
          - Why ISIS? - Asked pravoseki surprised.
          - They will finish them off - they will take on us.
        2. +3
          2 November 2015 19: 42
          Quote: ancient

          Andrey .. so yes .. and you can do something more positive, but .. now they will read it and start .. "bliss" - "the Russians are finishing destroying Ishil and will soon start after us .... the first target is Gerashchenko's office .. will bomb KAB'jv or launch Caliber "... from them .. will

          Sasha, I wish you good health drinks Yes, it wouldn’t be necessary with CABS ... I personally wouldn’t refuse to hold on to the throat of this expired Maydanovskaya. And after all, such scum tramples on this land. angry
          1. +4
            2 November 2015 21: 05
            KABom ... Ek you swung. Maximum - toilet. belay
          2. +1
            2 November 2015 21: 05
            KABom ... Ek you swung. Maximum - toilet. belay
          3. +2
            2 November 2015 21: 50
            Quote: NEXUS
            It's right! drinks I would also like to cover this nonsense with his Peacemaker Gerashchenko copper basin

            And you ADDITIONAL +! from me from the heart! I agree completely.
        3. +1
          2 November 2015 21: 27
          Quote: ancient
          the Russians will finish destroying Isil and will soon take over for us .... the first target is the office of Gerashchenko .. they will be bombed

          100 times! ++++++ but according to the rules of the site I can’t lol
      2. Darkoff
        +1
        2 November 2015 20: 13
        And really! Are there really no specialists in our competent organizations who can hack this peacemaker once and for all?
      3. +1
        2 November 2015 21: 16
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: GSH-18
        Above all praise! You are just great, real heroes! Keep it up! And so that ALL return home after completing the mission!

        It's right! drinks I would also like to cover this nonsense of Gerashchenko with his Peacemaker with a copper basin so that there would not even be any memory of him and then there would be a lace at all.

        Here I completely agree with you! There’s nothing to add am
      4. +2
        2 November 2015 23: 40
        Quote: NEXUS
        I would also like this nonsense Gerashchenko with his Peacemaker

        - patience, let the dish cool down wassat Cold, it’s always tastier wassat
  6. +7
    2 November 2015 18: 37
    Decent results of coordinated and high-quality work of the aerospace forces, all types of intelligence and ground services. Thanks to support services and their inconspicuous (for the media), hard, painstaking and ongoing work, such spectacular results are obtained.
    PS And completely in a hole, that when striking blows, no difference is made between the breeds of thugs (ISIS, or the so-called "Front-al-Nusra"). All have the same essence - terrorists. Therefore, you should not gently call them militants, and their leaders - field commanders. They are all bandits and murderers.
    1. 0
      2 November 2015 19: 31
      Sergey-8848

      There is such a thing.

      They are rightly called terrorists, since they achieve their goals by the methods of terror. Terrorizes. Show cruelty.

      But they can be called bandits and killers to a sufficient degree of admission. Only to the extent that they use killings as terror methods.

      Why am I leading this?

      And the fact that ISIS has an ideological basis. Those. all ordinary soldiers, except for mercenaries, are united by a common goal. Not tied to a system of material enrichment.

      Therefore, to say about them, about them straightforwardly bandits, as it is not camille.
  7. +3
    2 November 2015 18: 39
    The bearded, unfortunately, dig in very quickly, so also to bomb and bomb.
    It's a shame that there are fewer and fewer worthy targets, so that high-precision ammunition becomes "unprofitable". Squeeze the bastards into the desert and then carpet ... angry
    1. +1
      2 November 2015 18: 44
      They dig in very quickly ...

      Bury it easier when the earth is loose ..
    2. +1
      2 November 2015 19: 41
      Combat66

      The speed with which the air forces of the Russian Federation will lead the Syrian army to victory depends on the ability of the Syrian government to control the already liberated territories. Since ISIS is based on an ideological basis, the support of the partisan struggle by the population is quite possible.

      In this case, no one will help Assad except himself.

      Let me remind you that the Russian Federation set the goal of bringing Assad to the border with Turkey and blocking the supply routes to ISIS. Those. everything rests on the ground forces of Syria. Since its part of the Russian Federation performs successfully.

      But! It is surprising that there are still goals for which aviation continues to work. Since the beginning of the operation of the Russian Federation, the number of targets has been constantly growing.

      You wonder. There, what are the individual soldiers chasing?
  8. +3
    2 November 2015 18: 43
    the recently appointed leader ... of the Ahrar al-Sham group Abu Ali Naimi has been liquidated.

    The life of a terrorist is difficult and plain-faced in Syria.
  9. +1
    2 November 2015 18: 47
    Alexander Romanov.
    With your criticism, accuracy was raised)))
    (Without sarcasm)
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    1. 0
      2 November 2015 18: 58
      Quote: GOgaRu
      How many emotions! Judging by the video, in both cases at least 2 more hits are needed to destroy an object. And then, damn it, even the walls didn’t fall, I don’t even say about hangars, just got between them. We need more serious cars or the second option, to increase the grouping so that the goals can be fulfilled to the fullest. And where is the life-giving napalm? Ours, that they signed some kind of convention? Too small range of weapons. The abreks seem to have adapted and began to seize again settlements.

      Parasites must be destroyed selectively so that the drumim transmit
    2. +5
      2 November 2015 19: 18
      Quote: GOgaRu
      Judging by the video


      Judging by the video, then ... we got it right ... in the first case, right not far from the center of the building ... how many floors are there and you know what happens when a shock wave propagates in a closed volume wassat
      And in the second .. note that yes .. the bomb lay between the hangars, but everything flew out of all 4 hangars and what a b.p. you don’t know? .. so everything could be there even in .. sieve if the usual OFAB-250-270 .. and if something .. "more serious" wink wink
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    3. 0
      3 November 2015 10: 27
      Why napalm? ODAB-500 in efficiency surpasses probably the full load of the "rook" with napalm 500-l tanks. And they don't make high-precision tanks with kerosene.

      According to the hangars, it’s obvious that it’s shitty, the scale is not felt, but it seems that they put something OD. Beautifully crumpled tin. Esli ODAB, there are no survivors inside the cans. If FAB, 70% 200.
      In the building ... The shock wave of the Khattabych hit it great.
      Ours work economically, since 28 attackers and attack aircraft have their own limit on the number of sorties per day and on the number of ammunition that can be hung on them.
      In the radius of action of the Crocs, on the front line, they clean them with vertes, and work on the armored columns, as God himself commanded them. So far, the efficiency is incomparably higher than that of our potential friends.
      1. -2
        4 November 2015 13: 47
        Ours work economically, since 28 attackers and attack aircraft have their own limit on the number of sorties per day and on the number of ammunition that can be hung on them.

        I say: the group is weak, they are working to the limit. Big uncles are needed. There is a danger that the economy may collapse.
    4. +1
      3 November 2015 12: 13
      to increase the grouping, but how to provide it? I don’t know, is it true or not, I read it here: http://warfiles.ru/show-99145-voyna-buksuet-pod-fanfary-genshtaba.html
  11. +4
    2 November 2015 18: 52
    Quote: DDR
    Quote: marlin1203
    So soon there will be no "goals" left!

    As long as the "mattresses" sponsor them, there will be goals!

    I agree, and if they don’t finish there, they will appear with us
    1. 0
      2 November 2015 20: 18
      As previously reported, immigrants from the Middle East come to Odessa in order to then go to the line of contact between Ukraine and the national republics of Donbass. Their account goes to thousands and there is every reason to believe that they belong to the Islamic State terrorist group (formerly known as ISIS). This became known from an expert of the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies, Odessa Yegor Kvasnyuk.


      This is not the first message about the accumulation of Igilovites in the Donbass! So this scum is spreading. And if it’s still hard for them through the Caucasus, then to strike from the side of ukrov into the underbelly of Russia, this is quite real!
  12. 0
    2 November 2015 18: 57
    It will be difficult to dig in, so others will help. And squeeze out the oasis into the desert for starvation, unless the striped humanitarian aid is thrown up.
  13. +3
    2 November 2015 19: 03
    One of these messages is alarming, 1600 terrorist points have been destroyed. Well this is how they seriously prepared, and were sponsored by the West that they had built so much in Syria. It seems that without our help, Syria would have fallen.
  14. +1
    2 November 2015 19: 07
    And where is "Shaitan-Arba"?
    Or are helicopters no longer involved in stripping?
    They say that the bearded are very much afraid of this helicopter. Many people remember him from Afghanistan.
    1. +5
      2 November 2015 19: 16
      Shaitan Arba is Shilka, not a helicopter. Arba is a wagon, though.
      1. 0
        2 November 2015 19: 26
        Quote: Maksus
        Shaitan Arba is Shilka, not a helicopter. Arba is a wagon, though.

        But how then dushmans called Mi-24?
        1. +2
          3 November 2015 08: 54
          I think "aaaaaa !!!!!!!!!!" or something else. I personally am not familiar with any dushman
      2. +1
        2 November 2015 20: 17
        Quote: Maksus
        Shaitan Arba is Shilka, not a helicopter. Arba is a wagon, though.

        Word for word removed from the language.
        But how then dushmans called Mi-24?
        Honestly I do not know. I think something like a shaitan bird (الطيور), or shaitan bumblebee.
  15. -1
    2 November 2015 19: 12
    Chet was not inspired by the video — three hangars — two half-walls fell — and the control a couple of times? for fidelity? don’t know, don’t know ...
  16. +1
    2 November 2015 19: 12
    I want to say thank you to all patriots of Russia; for the support of its armed forces, for faith in their homeland, for faith in their government! I hope our voices are heard and the right conclusions are made. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to be proud of YOUR HOMELAND again !!!
    1. -5
      2 November 2015 21: 39
      Quote: nrex
      I want to say thank you to all patriots of Russia; for the support of its armed forces, for faith in their homeland, for faith in their government! I hope our voices are heard and the right conclusions are made. Thank you for giving us the opportunity to be proud of YOUR HOMELAND again !!!

      I gave you a very patriotic plus sign for rating patriotism .. And for idiocy a very fat minus is here. It's a pity no one will see the fundamentality of the minus ..
      1. -1
        3 November 2015 06: 25
        Quote: Manul
        I gave you a very patriotic plus sign for rating patriotism .. And for idiocy a very fat minus is here. It's a pity no one will see the fundamentality of the minus ..

        Minus what can you do. But after looking at the previous posts of the author, I had an acute attack of "diabetes" from so many "sweet" ones. Therefore, a large dose of skeptical "insulin" was used.
  17. +2
    2 November 2015 19: 17
    Dear, do not drive the wave, aviation operates at 150%, but the ground forces, I agree, require reinforcement, primarily artillery, mine clearance and, of course, ammunition.
  18. +3
    2 November 2015 20: 13
    Quote: Dmitry Ukraine
    Often the cause of air crashes is poor-quality repair, or the manifestation (over time, as a result of the influence of various types of loads, very intense) that were not detected during the repair of damage (for example, microcracks).
    ....... By the way, routine repair of the aircraft was carried out in IRELAND, and not in Russia, because the aircraft is of foreign manufacture .. And admission after repair, that is, the issuance of the certificate was made by the foreign side, and they have it with it, oh, how strictly that you need to show maximum patience and wait for decryption = black boxes = ...... As for Syria, it seems that none of the commentators were in Chechnya, much less in Afghanistan .... and does not imagine what war is on several fronts, this is, firstly, and with air strikes in Syria, it’s not possible to solve the matter so quickly, and Assad has almost knocked out all the elite troops and experienced commanders, apparently the Syrian intelligence is not level .... so talk about fast victory is not necessary. Yes, and her, a quick victory and the Russian leadership did not promise ...
  19. +1
    2 November 2015 20: 29
    this is how many objects these countries have created their democracies created, if about 2 thousand points and fortified areas are destroyed in a month ???
    That's why McCain jumps out of his pants from the successes of Russia ...))
  20. +1
    2 November 2015 20: 31
    Quote: dr.star75
    So our plane attack has fallen.

    Vague doubts torment me. (with)
    1. Which MANPADS fire 10 kilometers?
    2. How did the militants know that this was a Russian plane?
    3. What groups in Egypt might want to "take revenge" on the Russians?
    1. +2
      2 November 2015 21: 45
      Quote: Eugene30
      Vague doubts torment me. (with)
      1. Which MANPADS fire 10 kilometers?
      2. How did the militants know that this was a Russian plane?
      3. What groups in Egypt might want to "take revenge" on the Russians?


      Could someone from the airfield attendants put a bomb on the plane. Or loaders put it in a suitcase after checking luggage before loading it on an airplane. ISIS is very strong in Egypt.
  21. +2
    2 November 2015 20: 36
    Quote: DDR
    Quote: marlin1203
    So soon there will be no "goals" left!

    As long as the "mattresses" sponsor them, there will be goals!




    As long as the US exists, there will always be many goals.
  22. +2
    2 November 2015 20: 40
    Quote: svp67
    I can only applaud STANDING for our pilots and technical personnel ... Their ability to operate aircraft with such intensity can cause only delight.



    Only our people can withstand such loads, hold on and that everyone would return home. And the USA says that it’s hot and the technicians cannot work, they are not sweating. laughing
  23. 0
    2 November 2015 21: 03
    It looks like the destruction of the tail. As reported on TV, the same incident happened at one time with a Japanese airplane. Prior to this, he also hit the landing when landing. landing strip. And at the same time (after the ch.p.) more than one thousand hours flew by. There are defects, which, like the bomb, are cocked, and destruction occurs at one tragic moment. It is difficult to detect them, and the existing regulations do not require decommissioning of the aircraft after the above-mentioned part. As for MANPADS, no traces have yet been found on the skin elements of the (possible) explosion.
  24. +1
    2 November 2015 21: 42
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Still no terrorist attack on any type of transport ... nor finished off tourism .. and even more so in Egypt (there, like at home in a sanatorium ... some familiar faces ... even in Cyprus, even less).

    A very presumptuous conclusion: today, a tourism expert spoke on Radio Russia, the situation with refusal tours is obvious. People are simply afraid to fly!
    Our falcons in Syria have many summers and all kinds of prosperity! They are fighting with the IS, including for our Past, for Memory, for Faith, for the Motherland, for Us! Yes
  25. -3
    2 November 2015 22: 03
    Judging by the reports of our headquarters (including the General Staff), the Russian Aerospace Forces destroy 50 ISIS military facilities in Syria on average each day. If this is true, then not only should there not be militants, but Syria itself too. But while ISIS is fighting (and in some places) successfully. And our planes are falling, though civilian ones so far.
  26. +3
    2 November 2015 22: 06
    Dobroe vremia sutok gospoda.Nu 4to je gospoda VKS RUSSLAND, vnov prijatno ili ne prijatno
    (komu kak mne li4no kaif kak govoriat in RUSSLAND) .Glavnoe gospoda budte posledovatelni v uni4tozenie svoix vragov.Druzija sami poimut (ymor) .Glavnoe gospoda 4to-bi RUSSLAND opiat ne poxerela preferenmonto 4 i RUSSLAND ne sobirat bez vozmezdno taskat kostan iz ognija
  27. -1
    2 November 2015 22: 33
    Apparently ... The ISIS Air Force alone cannot be defeated, Assad's troops "do not pull." We need Russian infantry. Now, because of the incident with the crashed plane, the reason for the land invasion was found.
    Do not take a bayonet, this is just my opinion.
  28. 0
    2 November 2015 23: 04
    Within two days, the aviation of the VKS RF destroyed 237 militant objects in Syria
    I said that our VKS have very long and muscular arms! bully wink
  29. 0
    2 November 2015 23: 16
    Good news, how many more bases are there? The infrastructure was created on a grand scale, still bombing and bombing.
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  31. -1
    4 November 2015 01: 25
    bomb, bomb, and things are still there
  32. 0
    5 November 2015 15: 38
    The results are good. But what about the organizers and masterminds of ISIS? Remember the footage of films in which ISIS fighters flaunted, killing people in the most cruel ways (cutting off their heads, burning them alive in a cage, drowning them alive, etc.). What horror did the victims experience ?! The Nazism of the 40s of the last century and the current terrorism of ISIS have much in common in terms of intimidating and destroying all who are against them. Consequently, an international military tribunal on ISIS is needed, the action of which is widely covered in the media. And how to kill S. Hussein and M. Gaddafi, then all the Western media played this "action". The "peace-loving" and "humanitarian" community of the United States and Western Europe thus "democratized" Libya and Iraq. What did you get in return?