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Hidden call for the overthrow of power?

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Hidden call for the overthrow of power?



Yesterday I listened to the recording of the round table “Strange War” in the studio “Roy-TV” with the participation of Maxim Kalashnikov, Igor Girkin (Strelkov) and Anatoly Nesmiyan (El Muride). What I heard is practically no different from what is broadcast on Ekho Moskvy and written on liberal websites. Such a round table could well have been held at any liberal venue.

Naturally, the main question of the round table was the attitude to the participation of Russia in military operations in Syria. All participants in the conversation amicably condemned Russian military aid to Syria. Why? Because, in their opinion, Russia's military participation in Syria is just a show that pursues the following goals: 1) divert the attention of Russians from internal problems, especially economic ones; 2) pass quietly Novorossia; 3) to raise the rating of President Vladimir Putin. ISIS, according to the participants of the round table, is not for us the main threat, and indeed a serious threat.

Igor Strelkov repeated several times that we have no chance to win the war against the terrorists in Syria. Moreover, he spoke of this as an accomplished fact. Typically propaganda trick, calculated on the average man, when the assumption is issued for a real fact. Yes, Strelkov was a good school for misleading people. In this regard, I would like to draw special attention to the actual fact - so far not a single “prophecy” of Strelkov has been fulfilled. Remember how aggressively he promised the beginning of the Kiev junta offensive against the militias of Novorossia in the spring and summer of the current year? However, the offensive was not followed. And when he acted in Novorossia, remember how many times he tried to provoke the introduction of Russian troops into these territories, arguing that if Vladimir Putin did not enter the Russian military contingent in Novorossia, the Ukrainian troops would completely crush the militia and Novorossia would collapse.

I know for sure that many militiamen who fought bravely in Novorossia, when they mention the name Strelkova, start saying that I cannot even find synonyms. Therefore, when Igor Ivanovich portrays that among the militias in Novorossia he enjoys unlimited trust and respect, this is not true.

Strelkov constantly called, or rather provoked, the Russian authorities to send troops to Ukraine and take Kiev, threatening, otherwise, with Moscow’s Maidan. Maidan, as you can see, no. But, strangely, the United States would also very much like Putin to go to Kiev. And how do you order all this to evaluate? Once, in one company of Strelkov, he said: "I would have had enough adventurism to get to Odessa." Is it possible to take advice and analytics of an adventurer seriously?

The Minsk agreements, from the point of view of the participants of the round table, did not give anything, but only worsened the situation. But this is a lie. No matter what anyone says, but the result of the Minsk agreements is a cease-fire from the Ukrainian side. Refugees from New Russia are returning back to their homes. Strelkov, on the other hand, insistently reiterates that Poroshenko is again mobilizing the army, is preparing for a new offensive on Novorossia, and that the militia will now just not be able to repel the onslaught of “dill”. And all this is the fault of Putin, who got involved in a senseless war in Syria. The rest of the roundtable participants fully supported Strelkov. They stressed that Russia's participation in military operations in Syria not only does not increase our international prestige, but, on the contrary, is a cover for the weakness and helplessness of the Russian ruling elite led by Vladimir Putin. But this is a blatant lie. Anyone can look at Western materials, which emphasize that Russia is again becoming a superpower. Western analysts, politicians and the military are talking and writing about this. Maybe they were all bribed or intimidated by the Russian special services ?! And how the West, especially the USA, began to urinate with boiling water at the sight of Bashar al-Assad who arrived in Moscow! Notice how Assad looks like General de Gaulle. Syrian de Gaulle! And who are our Vladimir Putin starting to look like more and more? I think everyone understood. These two cool men with a rod half to death scared the Western buggers.

All the participants of the round table argued that all our military equipment was outdated long ago, and that the show in the Syrian sky does not frighten anyone, that the Americans have weapons ten times better than ours, that they have full drones, and we have none. If the Americans wanted, they would easily have done anything to us. In general, we are in collusion with the Americans. There is no limit to the arrogance and deceit of Strelkov, Kalashnikov and El Murid. After all, it is well known that obsolete American ballistic missiles are significantly inferior to our modern ballistic missiles. And the power of our tactical weapons recently demonstrated a missile salvo from the Caspian Sea.

Strelkov insistently emphasized that there are many of our mercenaries in Syria, that there are already considerable losses of personnel. He spoke absolutely in the spirit of "Echo of Moscow". If this is not a betrayal, then what? Similar treacherous speeches were conducted by pseudo-patriots even before the February 1917 revolution of the year.

The information of Strelkov and his interlocutors about Crimea is absolutely treacherous and defeatist. They claimed that in the Crimea the Crimean Tatars were about to rebel. That the border of Crimea is open. Strelkov said that if he wanted to, he would transport any cargo to the Crimea without straining. Kalashnikov said that we have a weak fleet in the Black Sea, that the Turks, having connected with someone else there, can easily destroy our Black Sea fleet. All this is a lie, misinformation and, in essence, an attempt to provoke unrest in Crimea, to suggest how to do it better. As for the Black Sea fleet, then today it is the strongest in the water area, the Turkish fleet is much inferior to us. Two new diesel submarines, equipped with the most modern missile weapons, which have no analogues in the world, various warships and the cruiser “Moscow”, currently on combat duty in the Mediterranean Sea and fully controlling the Black Sea as well - all this Kalashnikov calls small flotilla. Not to mention coastal naval armaments, the S-300 and S-400 installations, and so on and so forth.

But the most indicative is that not one of the participants of the round table said a word that, in addition to the political and geostrategic reasons for our military intervention in the Syrian conflict, there is also a spiritual and moral reason - the protection of the richest Christian world in Syria brutal igil. It is not for nothing that our Most Holy Patriarch Kirill spoke in support of Russia's military participation in Syria.

It turns out, no matter how twisted, that the participants of the round table are indifferent to the fate of Christians in Syria, including numerous Orthodox. It is clear that to spit on Christians Maxim Kalashnikov, who is known for his dense militant atheism. El Muridu, since he seems to be a Muslim (and maybe an atheist), is also indifferent to the Christian theme. But why Igor Strelkov, who considers himself Orthodox, did not at all touch on the topic of the protection of Christians in Syria by Russia? The only thing that was enough for him was a phrase uttered with an incomprehensible grin that, they say, Syria has a sacred meaning for Russia. However, this is also understandable. After all, Mr. Strelkov repeatedly unflattering, to put it mildly, spoke about the hierarchy of the Russian Orthodox Church. And I'm not sure that he can be considered a member of the Russian Orthodox Church at all.

In conclusion, I would like to repeat once again that such a round table could fit perfectly into the “Ekhomoskovsky” format.

At the end of the broadcast, presenter Maxim Kalashnikov said: “Let’s stop here, because our further predictions may lead to a collision with the criminal code.” What does it mean? This means that everything said at this round table is nothing more than a barely veiled call for the Russian Maidan and for the overthrow of the power of Vladimir Putin.
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 1 November 2015 05: 03
    17
    I saw this meeting of friends so to speak. A wretched sight. People are absolutely divorced from reality.
    1. vyinemeynen
      vyinemeynen 1 November 2015 05: 48
      11
      I agree with the article. The listed characters have long gone rotten.
      1. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 1 November 2015 06: 12
        0
        Traitors need to be expelled from the country, because if you plant them, then also feed them for people's taxes. And Strelkov has long turned into a political prostitute.
        1. ML-334
          ML-334 1 November 2015 06: 50
          -1
          You don’t have to send them, they’ll plant them. Otherwise, they will be sent to Russia there (Khodorkovsky).
          1. Baikonur
            Baikonur 1 November 2015 09: 15
            +2
            A year ago he said that this Strelkov (when there were no round tables yet and when he was still a "commander") was a traitor, a shithead!
            1. tolian
              tolian 1 November 2015 10: 29
              12 th
              He is not a traitor. Just ambitious. And this makes it difficult to think.
              1. Yars
                1 November 2015 12: 10
                +2
                Quote: tolian
                He is not a traitor. Just ambitious. And this makes it difficult to think.

                no, just the traitor and even through his cousin with the sign of Kolomoisky!

              2. Baikonur
                Baikonur 1 November 2015 12: 29
                +9
                Quote: tolian
                He is not a traitor. Just ambitious. And this makes it difficult to think.

                HA
                HA
                HA!!!
                it turns out that Kasyanov, Sobchak, Gaidar and others like them, like them - are simply ambitious ???? !!!!
                Hm!
                1. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 1 November 2015 14: 09
                  +4
                  Quote: Baikonur
                  Quote: tolian
                  He is not a traitor. Just ambitious. And this makes it difficult to think.

                  HA
                  HA
                  HA!!!
                  it turns out that Kasyanov, Sobchak, Gaidar and others like them, like them - are simply ambitious ???? !!!!
                  Hm!

                  Is it appropriate to compare the most famous liberal oligarchs with mere mortals who have risked their lives more than once for their country?
            2. ramzes1776
              ramzes1776 2 November 2015 14: 59
              +2
              Quote: Baikonur
              A year ago he said that this Strelkov (when there were no round tables yet and when he was still a "commander") was a traitor, a shithead!

              Look in Google- "GLOBAL FAKE. HOW THE GENOCIDE PREPARED IN UKRAINE". There it is clearly described by whom all this was organized. But what role Strelkov played in this is not clear. Or he was used in the dark, or he was also in the subject.
        2. Nymp
          Nymp 1 November 2015 08: 39
          +1
          Quote: viktorrymar
          Traitors need to be expelled from the country, because if you plant them, then also feed them for people's taxes.

          That's right, I want to add: -If they are planted, the liberals will raise them to the banner, make them holy martyrs, like Julia on the outskirts.
          1. captain
            captain 1 November 2015 12: 35
            15
            We have a strange country, 1.5 a year ago, the majority praised Girkin, God forbid, speak out against. Now the majority scolds, God forbid, speak out for him. He is primarily a man and people are not machines, they can make mistakes, they can pretend, they can just get sick with greatness and their significance. He fought in Bosnia, Transnistria, participated in events in the Crimea. Not every person voluntarily goes to war. Not everyone, he fought, I know what I'm writing about. Our journalists in a certain period made him an idol, and many of those who criticize him today in their comments have praised him earlier. They created an excellent opinion about Strelkov in society, and a person fell ill with megalomania. Now they write about him that he has become an enemy. I agree with those who do not agree with this assessment. He was not afraid to express his opinion, not the opinion of the TV. I DO NOT AGREE with his opinion, but I am very glad that we in Russia have people who can express their opinion, and not the opinion of Kiselyov or Solovyov (with all due respect. To these undoubtedly talented people). In this case, one must very carefully throw charges.
            1. Karabanov
              Karabanov 1 November 2015 15: 38
              15
              Quote: captain
              Our country is strange, 1.5 years ago Girkin was praised by the majority, God forbid, speak out against. Now the majority scolds, God forbid, speak out for him.

              My attitude to Strelkov and Kalashnikov is ambiguous. But the language does not turn to call them traitors, as many here try to covertly present.
              I understand their pessimism. Disappointment in a system in which there are many defects and flaws, and not the ability to change it or at least somehow influence. Hence the skepticism. But Kalashnikov is generally a fanatic, and he should also look for a more fierce opponent of the West and his pseudo-values ​​...
              It seems to me that the whole point is that the state does not need individuals. It is concerned with preserving itself, and everything that at least somehow threatens the system is suppressed. There are plenty of methods for this. And now they are making enemies out of them. And many happily echo ... A couple of days ago, they screamed about the injustice of Serdyukov's "appointment", and now they are pouring water on Strelkov and Kalashnikov. With all that, despite the damage caused to the state, he remained at the trough. The system does not abandon its own people and will not allow seditious ideas.
              With regard to some points in the article, such as: our participation in Syria is "to divert the attention of Russians from internal problems, especially economic ones." Whether we like it or not, and no matter how we relate to it, this is a fact. Foreign policy successes, which are approved by the majority, strengthen the current regime and allow further arbitrariness in domestic policy.
              The fact that this article was written by a clergyman is also not surprising ... At first, I thought what was it with his charter, but in a strange monastery? But after all, no matter how they agree, assent and anathematize certain characters. The Russian Orthodox Church is one of the few institutions licked and treated by the authorities. It would be surprising if they would say otherwise.
              It seems to me in the wrong place, and in the wrong place, many "local" commentators are looking for the fifth column.
            2. Yars
              1 November 2015 21: 35
              +2
              Quote: captain
              not the opinion of Kiselyov or Solovyov

              interestingly, the Ukrainian media like you say the same thing, a strange coincidence ...
        3. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 1 November 2015 11: 59
          +5
          Quote: viktorrymar
          Traitors need to be expelled from the country, because if you plant them, then also feed them for people's taxes.


          Everyone here writes that they hate liberals. And then what?
      2. tolian
        tolian 1 November 2015 10: 27
        -6
        I see that Girkin is not in vain removed. Young and with ambition. And ambitions are especially pronounced when a person falls into disgrace. Shooters in this situation.
        1. alone
          alone 1 November 2015 12: 15
          14
          Quote: tolian
          I see that Girkin is not in vain removed. Young and with ambition. And ambitions are especially pronounced when a person falls into disgrace. Shooters in this situation.


          Nonsense is complete. Where have you seen unambitious politicians? Ambition is the main component of politics. If a person is engaged in politics, he is automatically ambitious. Putin also has ambitions up his throat, but like any other ruler. What now do you have to remove?
      3. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 1 November 2015 10: 58
        +3
        but also very rotten biorobots, they repeat mantras about everything is gone, trying to program the society. Although it is necessary to analyze, but understanding the future, it should depend on us, and not execute the program of global puppeteers
    2. sherp2015
      sherp2015 1 November 2015 06: 11
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir
      I saw this meeting of friends so to speak. A wretched sight. People are absolutely divorced from reality.


      Politics is a dirty business ...
      1. Kazakh
        Kazakh 1 November 2015 09: 02
        +1
        Quote: sherp2015
        Politics is a dirty business ...

        If you do it with dirty hands. Or do you believe that Lavrov does dirty work?
        1. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 09: 40
          13
          Ie express concern when killing Russian is a holy cause? Although before that you said: Let them just try! (with)
        2. crazy_fencer
          crazy_fencer 1 November 2015 10: 42
          12
          But what, politics will become cleaner only because Lavrov is engaged in it?
          1. Georgy USSR
            Georgy USSR 1 November 2015 11: 06
            -7
            Everything is exactly as Starikov said. Strelkov is a dark horse that will start a war against GDP
            1. Buffalo
              Buffalo 1 November 2015 20: 27
              +5
              Quote: George USSR
              Everything is exactly as Starikov said. Strelkov is a dark horse that will start a war against GDP

              Let your Starikov, the creature of Surkov (Dudaev), fight for at least a day, in New Russia, where Strelkov stood to death, and after that blinks, the note-taking political commissar. By the way, in aviation they spoke of the difference between the commander and the political officer.
              The commander says: “Do as I do!” A Zampolit: - Do as I say!
            2. Uncle Joe
              Uncle Joe 1 November 2015 23: 33
              0
              Quote: George of the USSR
              Strelkov is a dark horse that will start a war against GDP
              "... but I can't touch her for her small stature" - so what?
          2. Basarev
            Basarev 1 November 2015 11: 18
            10
            But not so long ago Girkin was extolled, and Nesmeyanov was considered the most honest chronicler of the Russian struggle. I don’t know how others are, but I still consider the Minsk agreements to be only a betrayal - because the militias were twice stopped from breaking through to Mariupol. No less treason is the surrender of Slavyansk. I believe that Girkin was then simply framed. I did not delve into the details, but it seems that the units defending Mount Karachun and the nearby surroundings of Slavyansk simply scared and fled. As a result, Girkin did not have to solve his tasks, but rushed to their aid. And when he finally reached Slavyansk, the city was shut down.
            1. Yars
              1 November 2015 12: 16
              13 th
              it was Girkin who framed and divorced everyone, he was sent to Ukraine to intervene Russia in the war!
              1. Yars
                1 November 2015 12: 41
                -5
                oh, the liberals phoned each other and came to save the liberal Girkin, fingers are not tired of riveting minus?
                1. CALL.
                  CALL. 3 November 2015 09: 38
                  0
                  Quote: YARS
                  oh, the liberals phoned each other and came to save the liberal Girkin, fingers are not tired of riveting minus?

                  Please do not insult the participants. As one "lady" said, not everything is so simple.
          3. Kazakh
            Kazakh 1 November 2015 13: 35
            +2
            Quote: crazy_fencer
            But what, politics will become cleaner only because Lavrov is engaged in it?

            Yes, I think that it will be cleaner if pure people do it. By the way, V Putin is also a politician as they were both in Lenin and I Stalin tongue
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 1 November 2015 14: 12
              +1
              Quote: Kazakh
              Yes, I think that it will be cleaner if pure people do it. By the way, V Putin is also a politician as they were both in Lenin and I Stalin

              Does Kazakh-Romanian talk about purity of politics? :) Anyone who enters the path of politics becomes dirty is an axiom. :) But it’s important, not how much the person is dirty or clean, but what his intentions are!
          4. Yuri from Volgograd
            Yuri from Volgograd 1 November 2015 14: 51
            0
            Quote: crazy_fencer
            But what, politics will become cleaner only because Lavrov is engaged in it?

            That's right in the hole!
            It's a dirty business, but if you do it beautifully, you get Lavrov!
          5. Per se.
            Per se. 1 November 2015 19: 12
            +2
            Quote: crazy_fencer
            But what, politics will become cleaner only because Lavrov is engaged in it?
            If we assume that Lavrov is an honest and pure person, then, undoubtedly, he should become cleaner, at least one iota, but cleaner. My purely personal opinion, but people make politics, and not vice versa. Clean people cannot do dirty deeds, dirty politicians do dirty politics. When things start to be called by their proper names, without hypocrisy, everything will fall into place. For what they do not shake hands and even hit in the face in interpersonal relations, it will be just as unacceptable in interstate relations, making excuses that "politics is a dirty business" will become more difficult. There are scoundrels and bandits among people, there are countries that behave like a scoundrel country, a bandit country, and this is so not because the country itself, like the politics itself, is "dirty", but only because scoundrels and bandits in them not on the high road, but in politics and in power. When you need to start making the world a better place, without going to extremes.
        3. alone
          alone 1 November 2015 17: 57
          +7
          Quote: Kazakh
          If you do it with dirty hands. Or do you believe that Lavrov does dirty work?

          a naive person! I can say one thing! Now and everywhere there is great agitation about the decaying West, about the imminent fall of the United States, about how bad the Americans and Europeans are doing — in short, a continuous agitation war, everyone is trying to explain everything is so good in Russia and what kind of he has a brighter future (to deny a bright future and cannot affirm it, because I am not the Lord God). But note one thing, the offspring of all those in power live and work in the West, most have citizenship. And Lavrov’s daughter, being a US citizen, can’t speak at all Russian. so, my dear, not everything is as simple as it seems to us all. I’m not even talking about where our common thieves ’bureaucratic structure is kept.
          1. Yars
            1 November 2015 21: 38
            -2
            Quote: lonely
            Lavrova, being a US citizen, cannot speak Russian at all

            and where did you get such information, prove it! We have already heard a liberal chatter about Putin's daughter in the Netherlands ......
            1. alone
              alone 1 November 2015 21: 46
              +2
              Quote: YARS
              and where did you get such information, prove it! We have already heard a liberal chatter about Putin's daughter in the Netherlands ......


              ))) I should not prove it. This is a well-known fact. Internet resources are teeming with detailed facts about whose offspring lives where and what business is busy.
              1. Yars
                2 November 2015 22: 43
                0
                thanks to disinfectors like you, and fools believe in rubbish without proof!
            2. twviewer
              twviewer 1 November 2015 22: 15
              +6
              Quote: YARS
              We have already heard a liberal chatter about Putin's daughter in the Netherlands ......

              really in the Donbass in the hospital plows? :)
        4. Uncle Joe
          Uncle Joe 1 November 2015 23: 31
          +2
          Quote: Kazakh
          Quote: sherp2015
          Politics is a dirty business ...

          If you do it with dirty hands
          Right.

          Or do you believe that Lavrov is engaged in a dirty business?
          Yes, it does.

      2. sovetskyturist
        sovetskyturist 1 November 2015 11: 14
        +5
        right, and there will always be wise men who will dig in the mud for the people, and let the crowd with beer and wine relieve stress
    3. Sweles
      Sweles 1 November 2015 11: 44
      21
      Priest Alexander Shumsky should be engaged in his flock, and not get into politics.
      Our army is at times outperforming the NATO army in terms of potential, equipment, budget, stockpiles in arsenals, and strength — the same can be said about the Black Sea Fleet — it is practically nonexistent, the cruiser Moscow and some boats and submarines will live in the event of a big mess. A couple of minutes. C300 is power, but this system will not be able to fight back THOUSAND planes and tomahawks.
      Our economy is on its knees, the Medvedev government and Chubais have kept our industry in this position for a long time, while the economic POTENTIAL of the WESTERN COUNTRIES surpasses ours at times. Or is it not true? What does this mean that after the first days of an intense war, our army will remain without weapons and arsenals and will not be able to economically confront the WEST.
      There is a special conversation about our ELECTRONICS, the electronic industry from which DEPENDS ON EVERYTHING IS RETAINED and is simply not given to develop.
      Ukraine is OUR DOMESTIC BUSINESS. It was necessary to send troops for a long time and there would be no threats from Ukraine. It is impossible to predict the logic of his actions, in Syria we are smashing terrorists at distant approaches, and in Ukraine we are not only not smashing, but we also deliver gas, coal, spare parts to Bandera, we give loans, we give discounts while the Bandera seized power in Ukraine and mother Russia Putin WHAT IS THE WORLD COST IT IS NORMAL?
      Strelkov has merits to the Russian people, when he held back Bandera in Slavyansk for several months, while the formation of the army of New Russia was in progress, it was he who made this proto-state possible. Otherwise, Bandera would have slaughtered everyone. This must not be forgotten.
      If Kalashnikov, Strelkov and Nesmyan are against Syria’s help, then I don’t agree with them, here Russia's policy is correct.
      1. Yars
        1 November 2015 12: 32
        11 th
        Quote: Sveles
        Priest Alexander Shumsky should be engaged in his flock, and not get into politics.
        Our army is at times outperforming the NATO army in terms of potential, equipment, budget, stockpiles in arsenals, and strength — the same can be said about the Black Sea Fleet — it is practically nonexistent, the cruiser Moscow and some boats and submarines will live in the event of a big mess. A couple of minutes. C300 is power, but this system will not be able to fight back THOUSAND planes and tomahawks.
        Our economy is on its knees, the Medvedev government and Chubais have kept our industry in this position for a long time, while the economic POTENTIAL of the WESTERN COUNTRIES surpasses ours at times. Or is it not true? What does this mean that after the first days of an intense war, our army will remain without weapons and arsenals and will not be able to economically confront the WEST.
        There is a special conversation about our ELECTRONICS, the electronic industry from which DEPENDS ON EVERYTHING IS RETAINED and is simply not given to develop.
        Ukraine is OUR DOMESTIC BUSINESS. It was necessary to send troops for a long time and there would be no threats from Ukraine. It is impossible to predict the logic of his actions, in Syria we are smashing terrorists at distant approaches, and in Ukraine we are not only not smashing, but we also deliver gas, coal, spare parts to Bandera, we give loans, we give discounts while the Bandera seized power in Ukraine and mother Russia Putin WHAT IS THE WORLD COST IT IS NORMAL?
        Strelkov has merits to the Russian people, when he held back Bandera in Slavyansk for several months, while the formation of the army of New Russia was in progress, it was he who made this proto-state possible. Otherwise, Bandera would have slaughtered everyone. This must not be forgotten.
        If Kalashnikov, Strelkov and Nesmyan are against Syria’s help, then I don’t agree with them, here Russia's policy is correct.


        when the truth cuts a liberal's eyes, he turns to accusations against the author! The priest has clearly laid out everything on the shelves, if you cannot prove otherwise, then you should not "spit"
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 1 November 2015 13: 32
          +3
          Quote: YARS
          when the truth cuts a liberal's eyes, he turns to accusations against the author! The priest has clearly laid out everything on the shelves, if you cannot prove otherwise, then you should not "spit"

          Does a person who lives in a country belonging to NATO have the right to call others liberals and traitors? This is me about you "comrade" YARS from Germany. :( I personally regard this article posted by you, by the way, as a provocation.
          1. Yars
            1 November 2015 17: 55
            +1
            Quote: Misha Honest
            Quote: YARS
            when the truth cuts a liberal's eyes, he turns to accusations against the author! The priest has clearly laid out everything on the shelves, if you cannot prove otherwise, then you should not "spit"

            Does a person who lives in a country belonging to NATO have the right to call others liberals and traitors? This is me about you "comrade" YARS from Germany. :( I personally regard this article posted by you, by the way, as a provocation.


            and what bothers you where I find now? there was nothing to cling to anymore? I didn’t like the truth about Strelkov and you decided to tackle the flag !? You beam, uncheck the box on your flag that you were born in the USSR, let's see where you are now! Or are you weak?
            1. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 1 November 2015 20: 53
              +1
              Quote: YARS
              I didn’t like the truth about Strelkov and you decided to tackle the flag !?

              This is not the truth - it is only your perverse point of view. :) The truth can be found only by personally talking to Strelkov and Putin - and this is already from the category of science fiction. :)
              Quote: YARS
              You beam, uncheck the box on your flag that you were born in the USSR, let's see where you are now! Or are you weak?

              I removed it, as requested - although, I can already tell where I live - in the suburbs. :))) In addition - I really was born back then in the USSR - so I put the flag deservedly. :)
              So break off "comrade" provocateur. :)
              1. Yars
                1 November 2015 21: 12
                -4
                I have nothing to break off, from the flag and the place of his stay, the essence of man does not change. you are the same provocateur like girkin and there’s nothing to translate arrows in the article, a clear analysis of the statements of judas is carried out, and here you are talking about some kind of heresy!
                1. Misha Honest
                  Misha Honest 1 November 2015 21: 35
                  +3
                  Quote: YARS
                  you are the same provocateur like girkin

                  Well, if a truth-telling person is a provocateur, then yes - I'm a provocateur. :)
                  Quote: YARS
                  The article provides a clear analysis of the statements of Judas.

                  I read the biography of Alexander Shumsky. So please explain to me - when did this priest with a pedagogical education become - do you think he became a professional political analyst? :)
        2. Sweles
          Sweles 1 November 2015 13: 53
          +6
          Quote: YARS
          when the truth cuts a liberal's eyes, he turns to accusations against the author! The priest has clearly laid out everything on the shelves, if you cannot prove otherwise, then you should not "spit"


          There is no truth behind you, when the thief himself then you need to shout louder than everyone else, "stop the thief."
          1. Yars
            1 November 2015 17: 52
            -2
            Quote: Sveles
            Quote: YARS
            when the truth cuts a liberal's eyes, he turns to accusations against the author! The priest has clearly laid out everything on the shelves, if you cannot prove otherwise, then you should not "spit"


            There is no truth behind you, when the thief himself then you need to shout louder than everyone else, "stop the thief."


            Am I a thief? interesting ... typical liberal trolling!
      2. Uncle Joe
        Uncle Joe 1 November 2015 23: 55
        +4
        Quote: Sveles
        Priest Alexander Shumsky should be engaged in his flock, and not get into politics
        And he, her flock, is just doing laughing

        Politics is a sphere of interest.

        To pursue a policy - to take actions aimed at maintaining or changing social or interstate relations in accordance with the goal, in the interests of any social group.
    4. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 1 November 2015 16: 48
      +1
      In my humble and unnecessary opinion of Strelkov, in their statements below are absolutely right:
      1) to distract the attention of Russians from internal problems, especially economic ones; 2) pass quietly New Russia; 3) to raise the rating of President Vladimir Putin.
      The Kremlin’s attempt to get into the Syrian conflict is reminiscent of the actions of people who take another loan to close one loan. It is clear that such actions can most likely only worsen the situation ..
      ISIS, according to the participants of the round table, is not for us the main threat, and indeed a serious threat.
      There are pluses for Russia in the very existence of ISIS. Such a good "furnace" in which any fundamentalist rabble is utilized .. I think a more or less calm situation in the Russian Caucasus was also associated with the fact that the radicals smoothly flowed to the BV ..
      The information of Strelkov and his interlocutors about the Crimea is absolutely traitorous and defeating. They claimed that in the Crimea the Crimean Tatars were about to rebel.
      Again IMHO - the Crimeans would support if the Ukrainians themselves were ready to defend Crimea with weapons in their hands.
    5. zloybond
      zloybond 1 November 2015 19: 54
      +1
      the statement of isolation from reality is not correct. a man regularly plays his part. first succeed, play the hero, then deservedly resist. at the same time, constant calls for Russia to enter Ukraine are correctly mentioned. man works installation. like a note. he is an experienced director.
  2. Prokop
    Prokop 1 November 2015 05: 03
    +9
    Some time ago, on Tatyana Volkova’s blog (http://pravosudija.net/), I read about Girkin, his actions and goals, which I really didn’t want to believe, and after some time, talking to their classmates at the institute, they There were the DNR militia, I heard about it in such expressions that moderators will not let it pass here. In the light of this article, the fact that he is a Vangard-like uproot and mishandled Cossack explains his statements. It’s a pity, but I really would like him to be a real patriot, not a provocateur.
    1. CALL.
      CALL. 1 November 2015 11: 18
      +2
      Quote: Prokop
      In the light of this article, the fact that he is a Vangard-ovskoe extortion and mishandled Cossack, explains his statements. It’s a pity, but I really would like him to be a real patriot, not a provocateur.

      Back in 2014, I was embarrassed by a man who publicly (under television cameras) introduced himself as a "FSB colonel" and was involved in organizing an armed uprising in Ukraine - "I pulled the trigger of the war." An intelligence officer carrying out a special mission in someone else's territory has no right to decipher himself. Imagine Stirlitz speaking on Radio Berlin - saying that he is Isaev, an NKVD colonel.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 1 November 2015 12: 03
        -2
        Quote: Z.O.V.
        In 2014, I was confused by a man

        A good and simple question .. but again, instead of arguments - cons, my plus to you ..
      2. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 1 November 2015 21: 02
        0
        Quote: Z.O.V.
        "I pulled the trigger of the war." An intelligence officer carrying out a special mission in someone else's territory has no right to decipher himself. Imagine Stirlitz speaking on Radio Berlin - saying that he is Isaev, an NKVD colonel.

        Or maybe on the contrary, he causes fire on himself with this statement. a kind of lightning rod for the Kremlin - like Strelkov himself, on his own initiative, the adventurer don Quixote)).
        1. CALL.
          CALL. 3 November 2015 09: 35
          0
          Quote: Alibekulu
          Or maybe on the contrary, he causes fire on himself with this statement. a kind of lightning rod for the Kremlin - like Strelkov himself, on his own initiative, the adventurer don Quixote)).

          I agree. I do not belittle the merits of Igor Ivanovich. What he did to establish New Russia is worthy of respect. But politics is not his thing.
    2. Buffalo
      Buffalo 1 November 2015 20: 37
      +4
      Yes Yes! You still say that you received incriminating evidence on Strelkova on the OTC connection (one aunt said).
      Strelkov - unemotional and ideological, did not get dirty, like Plotnitsky. But to the clean - it will not bother.
      But those who here treacherously farts at him, while he fought, they earned money on publications in the liberal media. You cannot drag them out on the lasso, like Tsarev, Pushilin, Kurginyan, Starikov, "and various other Swedes."
  3. Bayonet
    Bayonet 1 November 2015 05: 06
    17
    Not childishly took up Strelkova smile This reminds me of the Red Marshals, who were first worn on the hands and then placed against the wall. hi
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 1 November 2015 05: 20
      15
      Quote: Bayonet
      Not childishly took up Strelkova


      Nobody touched him exactly until I.I. did not begin to openly demonstrate a change in his views and beliefs. Remember his speeches last year and compare with what he is openly preaching now. Personally, I am surprised by such a U-turn.
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 1 November 2015 05: 57
        +8
        Personally, I am surprised by such a U-turn.

        Yes, and me too. As always happens in such cases in politics, the question arises: who is interested in nominating Strelkov as a political figure?
        1. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 10: 01
          10
          Spring 2014: "Let them just try to shoot!"

          Autumn 2014: "Kramatorsk is Ukraine, whoever doesn't think so is a complete idiot!"

          It Doesn't it surprise you, no?
        2. VSC
          VSC 1 November 2015 12: 37
          +5
          And my question is, who "pushed" him to the Donbass for the war? and on television, on central channels? Or he did everything himself, alone - as the political scientist Ishchenko says, he decided on his own, he came himself, he assembled the army and held the defense in the direction of the main attack for 3 months. If so, then in modern conditions, he is equal to Napoleon.
      2. Babr
        Babr 1 November 2015 06: 03
        -2
        Quote: B.T.W.
        Personally, I am surprised by such a U-turn.

        But it doesn’t surprise me. The Zionists are eager for power, and when the goal is achieved, they begin to squabble among themselves. So now we see this squabble. Or do you think that Strelkov and others like him, say it on their own behalf? If this were so, they wouldn’t open their mouths. Someone is behind them. And this someone is eager for power (feeding trough).
        And Ipatiev painted these clans in his article. Who cares, it's here.
        http://mayoripatiev.ru/1427017344
        1. atalef
          atalef 1 November 2015 06: 46
          25
          Quote: Babr
          But it doesn’t surprise me. The Zionists are eager for power, and when the goal is achieved, they begin to squabble among themselves. So now we see this squabble. Or do you think that Strelkov and others like him, say it on their own behalf?


          Girkin in the service of Zion.
          What did you drink yesterday, Victor? Uh, how do you snort in the morning laughing
          1. Babr
            Babr 1 November 2015 07: 00
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Girkin in the service of Zion.
            What did you drink yesterday, Victor? Uh, how do you snort in the morning

            He was not seen in a booze, but drank cold water in the morning. lol
            About the Zion. I told you (at your request) reset the clans.
            In all your compatriots prevail.
            1. arlekin
              arlekin 1 November 2015 07: 23
              +5
              "What's the difference between a Jewish nationalist and an anti-Semite? None. Both think that all great people are Jews." M. Zhvanetsky
            2. atalef
              atalef 1 November 2015 10: 09
              -3
              Quote: Babr
              He was not seen in a booze, but drank cold water in the morning

              Long and eagerly, drank cold water laughing
              Quote: Babr
              About the Zion. I told you (at your request) reset the clans

              Well, at least not the clones laughing
              Quote: Babr
              Your compatriots prevail in all

              Well, about the fact that we rule the world, I hope we have no differences - a worm (so joke in the morning!)
              Good morning Victor
              hi
              1. Babr
                Babr 1 November 2015 12: 11
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                Well, about the fact that we rule the world, I hope we have no differences

                The trouble is that you are a consumable. They will torture you and give up.
                As General Petrov said, you are hostages of your fate.
                You’ll become unnecessary, they will merge. Yes, they will already drain. I understand this, so without malice I treat you. You don’t get it yet. Think. hi
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        2. sovetskyturist
          sovetskyturist 1 November 2015 11: 18
          +3
          But Mr. Zhirinovsky, prettily Russian, explains who is Vast
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 1 November 2015 19: 34
            +1
            Quote: sovetskyturist
            Mr. Zhirinovsky, prettily Russian, explains who is Vast
      3. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 1 November 2015 06: 27
        +1
        Quote: B.T.W.
        Nobody touched him exactly until I.I. didn't start to openly demonstrate

        It was necessary to put next to this photo on which he is now and to find two differences - it will be possible to write an article about the effect of body mass growth on beliefs .. laughing
        1. Babr
          Babr 1 November 2015 06: 37
          +1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          It was necessary to attach next to this photo

          Also drew attention to the photo. One could not read further; the focus of the article was clear.
        2. B.T.V.
          B.T.V. 1 November 2015 06: 42
          +2
          I agree that this article would be more suitable for a photo where I.I. with a jacket and with their assistant go to the "expensive" car (such a photo flashed in the open space).
      4. Gardamir
        Gardamir 1 November 2015 08: 40
        12
        Nobody touched him
        What was removed from the ministers of defense of Donetsk?
      5. Bayonet
        Bayonet 1 November 2015 18: 50
        +6
        Quote: B.T.W.
        Remember his speeches last year and compare with what he is openly preaching now. Personally, I am surprised by such a U-turn

        "And what, all these years he.?. - No, all this time he skillfully disguised himself ..."
    2. atalef
      atalef 1 November 2015 06: 39
      17
      Quote: Bayonet
      - protection of the richest Christian world in Syria from the brutalized ISIS. Not without reason did our Holiness Patriarch Kirill support the military participation of Russia in Syria.

      Actually, it interferes with the background (let's be honest, now the cons will fly wink ) Weak successes of the Syrian army, more precisely, I would say - well, in general, nothing.
      I do not mention the videoconferencing, for one reason, the videoconferencing is an addition to the Syrian army and do not play the war themselves.
      Girkin is right - Russia will not win the war - due to the fact that it cannot be won by 50 planes, only Assad’s army can win it, but it won’t win, why? Therefore, I wrote this (why 150 times) therefore it is not worth repeating.
      I never idealized Girkin, but in Slavyansk he didn’t particularly lie, and now - what is the point of him?
      Next article author
      Author Priest Alexander Shumsky, publicist, member of the Union of Writers of Russia belay
      Its just pearls - amaze.
      As for the Black Sea Fleet, today it is the strongest in the water area, the Turkish fleet is significantly inferior to us. Two new diesel submarines equipped with the most modern missile weapons, which have no analogues in the world, various warships and the Moscow cruiser, which is currently located on combat duty in the Mediterranean Sea and fully controlling the Black Sea as well

      the reasons for our military intervention in the Syrian conflict, there is also a spiritual and moral reason - the protection of the richest Christian world in Syria
      belay
      And as the West, especially the USA, started urinating with boiling water at the sight of Bashar al-Assad who arrived in Moscow! Note, how Assad looks like General de Gaulle tongue . Syrian de Gaulle! And who is our Vladimir Putin more and more like? I think everyone understood. These two calm men with a rod half to death scared the Western buggers.

      I'm not talking about the commandment, do not make yourself an idol, but - so who does Putin look like?
      In general, the desire to lick the power and take the opponent. even reached the clergy.
      But what about the commandments, the attitude of Christ to the erring and erring? (Yes, even if Girkin is mistaken)
      He spread rot in the same way, did He teach you this, citizen priest?
      laughing
      1. Babr
        Babr 1 November 2015 06: 49
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        Its just pearls - amaze.

        That's what I like about you Alexander, you can find a highlight in a pile of shit. lol
      2. fif21
        fif21 1 November 2015 08: 34
        +3
        Quote: atalef
        Author Priest Alexander Shumsky, publicist, member of the Union of Writers of Russia

        I don’t believe in God either! So what? And what business is this businessman from religion to secular affairs !? am Any person has the right to their opinion, disagree with evidence, prove their case, and the author hangs up labels, quotes slogans .....
      3. guzik007
        guzik007 1 November 2015 10: 06
        +1
        A very accurate assessment, not in the eyebrow, but in the eye, bravo!
      4. avt
        avt 1 November 2015 10: 59
        -2
        Quote: atalef
        Author Priest Alexander Shumsky, publicist, member of the Union of Writers of Russia
        Its just pearls - amaze.

        Well, a writer, well, a prose writer, that's about the bunny "Strelka" and wrote - it's business. Read Prokhanov - he drives an order of magnitude more, and even with metaphysics is buggy - Mom, don't worry.
        Quote: atalef
        I'm not talking about the commandment, do not make yourself an idol, but - so who does Putin look like?

        Acutely noticed, here is only one question - Does this apply only to Putin? Or did Girkina / Strelkova do the same? wassat
        Quote: atalef
        In general, the desire to lick the power and take the opponent. even reached the clergy.

        Oh, wei! But in other countries, the state religion also rules, also by the way removed from power, isn’t it? laughing
        Quote: atalef
        But what about the commandments, the attitude of Christ towards the erring and erring

        But normal. And cheat? Girkin / Strelkov repented of his speeches, but this priest did not forgive him and did not let him into the church ??? It’s like Jesus Ben Joseph, whom the people of Khrost publicly called for the first time under Peter and Paul, it’s like saying that they say that he will repent, come and accept, how many times he will come sincerely repenting, so many times take it. ahead - no rush - every step brings death closer.
        Quote: atalef
        He rotted them in the same way

        Well, yes, yes, yes .... I remember we have such a libertarian Kovalev, when the Satanists got it and smashed the exhibition for them, shouted - Orthodox! Where is your humility !? laughing Well, like the aforementioned Jesus Ben Joseph Gauvreau about hitting one, substitute the other. Well, since there is no third, then it comes into force - "I did not come, but to add", that is, if the opponent does not understand the second time, the First Law of Moses comes into force, well, that every Jewish boy must know where the eye is for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, but you can use money. Well, of course - "Not peace brought, but a sword."
    3. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 1 November 2015 08: 11
      +5
      Quote: Bayonet
      Not childishly took up Strelkova smile This reminds me of the Red Marshals, who were first worn on the hands and then placed against the wall. hi

      Nobody Strelkov put him on the wall, he just played his part and they forgot it, it infuriates him, the comrade of the monarchist has more ambitions than opportunities and abilities, he forgot that he needs to serve the Motherland, and not his own desires, since he chose such a profession.
      1. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 1 November 2015 08: 22
        10 th
        Dreams of Strelkov Igor
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    4. avt
      avt 1 November 2015 10: 16
      -6
      Quote: Bayonet
      Not childishly took up Strelkova

      laughing Yes, NO ONE HAS ALREADY TAKEN FOR IT. They only voice his stupid speeches, made either from offended pride, or from real stupidity, which is worse than theft. What kind of a leader is he fucked for if he does not understand what role we need at present Is Gapon trying on and going to remodel?
      Quote: Bayonet
      This reminds me of the Red Marshals, who were first worn on the hands and then placed against the wall.

      Well, first of all - present the horse throw to those who drool in emotion at the sight of illustrations and texts a la, 300 riflemen and Babay, and now he turned 180, having seen. "" Babayka, then at least remember the outrageously promoted and printed by Girkin? Secondly - can you remember how the adherents of the Girkin / Strelkov sect, salivating on a splattered keyboard, caught hidden “Kurginians” on the Internet? Well, in which everyone was en masse who tried to voice at least some critical thought following the results of SPECIFIC CASES and the adventures of their deity adored to orgasm - The brave soldier, Strelka. Thirdly, which of him is the "red marshal", if he is a reenactor of the White Guards, and full of what the Slavic-Donetsk epic actually showed in all its glory. Okay then, all the trends are about Strelka and BabaYa, but now Kommersant and MK were the first to announce it! So the adherents of the sect should have been renamed for a long time into "300 Belovets and Girkin / Strelkov", but now, if Navalny Girkin like the main posriot fails to take the place of Navalny, they will be with Belkovsky and his lover Svidomitka Yakhno Michael of Kent to reconstruct the kingdom of Moscow I have a hobby and paid work, with which I am adherents of the Strelka sect to those who are stubborn in search of "Surkov propaganda" and hidden Kurginians.
    5. tomket
      tomket 1 November 2015 12: 01
      +7
      Quote: Bayonet
      Not childishly took up Strelkova. Something like this reminds the Red Marshals, who were first carried on his hands, and then put to the wall.

      In general, there was an opinion that things in which neither Strelkov nor the author of the article were very versed became a field for discussion. At the beginning of Syria. The fact that Assad's offensive was not very set, here and Hindenburg does not need to be to see. By the way, victorious media reports very much resemble "a small victorious war." Which, in the case of airstrikes, is practically safe in terms of information. About Kiev offensive. In fact, since August, Basurin has only been engaged in informing about the offensive from day to day. About the Black Sea Fleet generally amused. Probably since the days of the USSR I have not heard such a propaganda stream about what we are the most and have no analogues. In general, the truth is in the middle. Not to say that we are weak, but we have not yet gained full strength.
    6. alone
      alone 1 November 2015 12: 18
      11
      Hi!

      You know, he’s tired of this attitude towards people. About a year and a half ago he was almost compared to GOD, they said that Putin and Girkin would save Russia. They prayed at him like an icon. And today they kick and insult him only because he says that thinks. Thinks not like the majority sitting here. And what will these same people say, then suddenly he will be hypothetically right?
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 1 November 2015 12: 26
        +5
        Quote: lonely
        .And today they kick and insult only because he says what he thinks. He thinks differently from the majority sitting here. And what will the same people say, then suddenly he will be hypothetically right?

        The main thing is to jump on the winner’s chariot in time :-)
      2. avt
        avt 1 November 2015 14: 17
        -2
        Quote: lonely
        .A year and a half ago, he was almost compared to GOD, they said that Putin and Girkin would save Russia. They prayed at him like an icon.

        And now the adherents of the sect, 300 Riflemen and Babay "do not pray!? Do not fight in hysterics when someone touches their deity?"
        Quote: lonely
        .And today they kick and insult only because he says what he thinks.

        You missed something in life, he’s not only voicing what he thinks and then he’s fucking with him, he’s already doing quite a thing for himself, about which MK has already painted this movement
        Former head of the "DPR Ministry of Defense" Igor Girkin (Strelkov) at a press conference at the Center for Scientific Political Thought and Ideology (the center of Stepan Sulakshin) said that with his participation a new political force should soon appear in the country, opposing the policy of the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, while back in September 2014, Strelkov's rhetoric was supported by completely different political forces. He stated that "the West and the fifth column practically do not hide their plans to overthrow President Putin and completely dismantle Russia," thereby approving the president's course.
        and even of his current comrades
        Nevertheless, the new party, which is being created with his participation, according to Sulakshin, “is inevitable and will lead the country away from the pernicious and critically destructive liberal course, which has become the official program and political line of the ruling regime in the country. Her leadership, her president V. Putin. This line is disastrous for the country. "
        Quote: lonely
        . Thinks differently than the majority sitting here.

        Look at the ratings of those who are for and who are against, then speak for the majority here.
        Quote: lonely
        .And what will these same people say, then suddenly, hypothetically, he will be right?

        The question is shit - look what some of those who shouted at the rallies before the 90s later said - “Boris! Fight! "This non-Napoleon will not even become EBON, they take him according to the principle - What if he shakes and rolls? His fate is the fate of Gapon with varying degrees of change in health, well, depending on the intensity of passions." Such people are not taken as astronauts. " - as practice has shown, he does not have that bestial passion for power that EBoN had and he will never completely trample like Rokhlin, and his tribune is not something like Zhirinovsky, like Navalny, well ... No. no, sad little company gathered at them. Belkovsky miscalculated the campaign.
        1. alone
          alone 1 November 2015 14: 48
          12
          Quote: avt
          This non-Napoleon will not even become EBoN, they take him according to the principle - What if he rocks and rolls? His fate is the fate of Gapon with varying degrees of change in health, well, depending on the intensity of passions. “They don’t take such people as cosmonauts” - as practice has shown, he does not have that bestial passion for power that EBoN had and he will never completely trample like Rokhlin, and his tribune is not something like Zhirinovsky, like Navalny. ... no, they have a sad group of people. ”Belkovsky miscalculated the campaign.

          )))) As for the buildup, I can agree. So if you don’t sit on the throne, it's a hundred pounds. For thrones there will always be crooks more insignificant than Girkin. Alas, this is a reality. A revolution is carried out by adventurers and fanatics, and crooks use its fruits.
          Quote: avt
          Look at the ratings of those who are for and who are against, then speak for the majority here.

          It’s enough for me to read R. Skomorokhova -Banshee. If the moderator says and writes one thing or the other, then what else is left to do here? The steel ones behave like Mikhan, they cry out loud, support any thought of the authors of the article (if they contradict each other) and show your false patriotism hi
          1. avt
            avt 1 November 2015 18: 24
            +3
            Quote: lonely
            false patriotism

            request To my deep regret, I can state that Kashpirovsky's sessions and minutes of silence on Chumak's radio with loading creams in tubes and three-liter cans of tap water did not pass without a trace for our people, the Internet lay on the already prepared ground and the culture of comprehension and knowledge in comparison of real deeds and actions almost disappeared ... Already thinking is clip-on and speech at the level of chants and do not even strain the memory to remember something that was not very distant what was taught at school in the history lesson, but actually what they themselves witnessed, such a massive Hari Krishna, well, naturally, to Krishna can be shoved with any personalities. Girkin is bought as in their time Lebed, but the chimney is lower and the smoke is thinner. nuances, but he really was - he had a chuyku, although he let the airborne forces into the microphone for the day and roared that it was good for him in the army. Again, as Girkin already said, it is not Rokhlin - he will not go to the end, he will jump off just like Gapon during it.
        2. Straight
          Straight 1 November 2015 17: 09
          -1
          Oh, you petty nonentity! Are you talking about the "sect of 300 riflemen"? ..... Bandera!
    7. ASK505
      ASK505 1 November 2015 12: 49
      +1
      Quote: Bayonet
      The Red Marshals, who were first worn on the hands and then put on the wall.


      That is why they made it because they did not justify the confidence of the Party and the people. For "business" and payment.
  4. Prokop
    Prokop 1 November 2015 05: 18
    0
    Quote: Vladimir
    I saw this meeting of friends so to speak. A wretched sight. People are absolutely divorced from reality.

    I also went to look, wretched, I agree, but it does not hold up to the spectacle, Stanislavsky would have yelled "I DO NOT BELIEVE", so cheap regulation.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 1 November 2015 05: 28
      -4
      What is the production there? A failed rehearsal for a failed production.
  5. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 1 November 2015 05: 39
    0
    Somewhere, people are dying, while others are promoting against this background.
  6. Kindof
    Kindof 1 November 2015 05: 39
    14
    Clergy climbed into politics? Or does anathema look like this?
    But where is the declared hidden call for the overthrow of power?
    Any decision by the authorities carries risks, including the Minsk agreements. Let the priest in Donetsk tell about the ceasefire.
    Shooters broadcast pessimistic scenario - but this does not reduce the value of his expert vision.
    In any headquarters there should be such a "pessimist" - as opposed to pink-eyed people and hats.
    And I do not exclude Strelkov's "prophecies" because they did not come true because they were announced to him in a timely manner and taken into account by decision-makers.

    The clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church are taking on a strange role in the political struggle. Like Vysotsky: "no, and everything is not so in the church, everything is not as it should be .."
    1. Babr
      Babr 1 November 2015 06: 29
      +1
      Quote: Kindof
      Clergy climbed into politics?

      All means are good for achieving the goal (with the existing system)
      Look at the exposed photograph of Strelkov, with a red nose.
      Even this confirms the "truthfulness" of what was written. lol
    2. fif21
      fif21 1 November 2015 08: 38
      +4
      Quote: Kindof
      In any headquarters there should be such a "pessimist" - as opposed to pink-eyed people and hats.
      I agree! An optimist is a person who does not own information.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 November 2015 05: 50
    +8
    Girkin is a played card. He lost that moment when he could really lead something, and this something would have raised him. And now - it's just a pitiful sight. I remember Commander Sorokin from "Walking in Torment". The scales are different, the essence is the same. A person is "lifted" by the wave of circumstances, but the higher the wave, the stronger the head and legs should be. And "fell off the ridge" - everything whirled, twisted, and smacked about the bottom. And after that, you can tell the rest of your life in the pub about your fate.
  8. Denis DV
    Denis DV 1 November 2015 05: 57
    0
    I saw Givi shooting, Motorola shooting, but Strelkov, however, sat in an office and talked a lot - shaitanama however!
    1. His
      His 1 November 2015 12: 50
      -9
      He knocked hysterically on the keyboard: "Putin bring in the troops, otherwise I will die."
  9. domokl
    domokl 1 November 2015 06: 04
    +8
    When we wrote about the same amount of dirt a few months ago, it is clear that many facts cannot be revealed even now. But the fact that Girkin abruptly changed orientation was noticeable already from the first actions of his political speeches. I thought it was a bid. It turned out not ... Everything for sale ... Even the honor of an officer ... Vile
    1. twviewer
      twviewer 1 November 2015 22: 13
      +4
      Quote: domokl
      .All for sale ... Even the honor of an officer ... Vile

      But what about the honor of that officer, do you not remember that the thieves-oligarchs legitimized the power? :)
      doesn't have a Swiss bank account like EBN, so crystal clear? so it will be smarter and the experience is specific.
      And the patriot Girkin in this fight for power between the "proud" liberals and the creeping liberals has no place, so buckets of slop are pouring. For those and for others, he is an enemy because he gave people hope for justice.
  10. Zomanus
    Zomanus 1 November 2015 06: 20
    +4
    Chet merged dudes ...
    That is, they started it well, but with criticism of the slons they went too far.
    They would be slow now, not to heat up the situation.
    Because if they continue to continue in the same vein,
    Makar's glory is provided to them.
  11. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 1 November 2015 06: 28
    10
    Colonel Cassad
    Regarding questions about the customized persecution of Strelkov. I actually wrote about this more than once last year (who is not too lazy, pick up the material "On the political background of the persecution of Strelkov"). The reasons actually described last year have not disappeared anywhere, as have the customers of the information campaign, the performers of which are constantly confused in the testimony. Either Strelkov is no longer interesting to anyone, then "it is necessary to expose the enemy of the Motherland Strelkov." In the style of "I ran after you for 3 days to tell how you are not interesting to me." It looks very funny and clumsy, but if you remember that this persecution began with Kurginyan's voyage to Donetsk and an epic meeting on a green sofa shouting "Why didn't you die in Slavyansk", one should not expect intelligence and ingenuity in muddying. Execution to match the order.

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2015/10/30/
    EL_MURID
    Yesterday, a small note appeared about how a person was offered to take part in the persecution of Strelkov for a small price, and on a completely false accusation. In principle, his story is accompanied by a completely testable campaign, when different people began to pour slop on the same topic at the same time. The list of "irrigators" that the author cited in his text is quite familiar from the previous similar bursts of activity. The only novelty is the announced amount for diligence. In general, and it is quite adequate, considering who responded to such a generous offer - this audience is hardly more expensive. Therefore, the principle "If there is no difference, why pay more" is quite appropriate here.

    True, people started the campaign, whom there seems to be no reason to suspect such beggarly needs. Say, the same Igor Korotchenko - well, he would hardly have been offered such a tramp budget. But, of course, a person can be held for all sorts of tender places in different ways - not just money.

    http://el-murid.livejournal.com/?skip=10
    1. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR 1 November 2015 06: 30
      10
      EL_MURID
      Does Assad understand this? Of course. But he is in exactly the same situation as Strelkov: a step to the right and left, the slightest independence - and a call will immediately follow from Moscow: do you not need our help anymore? Well then, right now we are taking off and flying home, sort it out here yourself. Strelkova was blackmailed in the same way - either you leave, or we close even that frail brook that drips across the border. I attended one such conversation. What did Strelkov say - I didn’t hear, but according to the answers and remarks of Igor himself it was not difficult to understand what was being discussed. The technology is exactly the same, why invent something?

      A month after Strelkov left, the same people who admired his heroism and pasted his photo on their avatars began to splash mud on the theme: "He ran away!" "He left everyone!" "He betrayed!", "He surrendered Slavyansk!" Interestingly, after what time will the same ones begin to pour mud on Assad? But if they start, they won't go anywhere.
      source
      http://el-murid.livejournal.com


      I trust only these sources, the rest of the order on persecution of shooters is not interesting to me and no matter how beautifully they painted everything there, and I’m not even going to spend my time reading it
      1. I am Russian
        I am Russian 1 November 2015 09: 19
        10
        How much do they pay for Strelkov’s slander?

        October 30, 2015. Posted by: Yarovityaz

        If someone had told me yesterday that the PR people in the Kremlin would offer me to mix one person with shit for the money in my blog, I would turn my finger around the temple. But this happened. Last morning I was asked to write nasty things about a very famous person! For the money, of course. Oh, you won’t believe what kind of person. I myself did not believe it. So, what do you think, who I was offered to crap for a fee? Ready to find out? Take air into your chest ... It remains to wait a bit, and the curtain hiding this secret from prying eyes will fall ...
        Oh, right now it will be ... just sweetie. So ... as they said in one Soviet film, "you will not believe: I am leaving for Gagra" ...
        Curtain falls...

        And here is this man whom I was offered to mix with shit pro-Kremlin PR specialists:

        But the point is ... A day earlier, Strelkov announced at some meeting that he intended to create a party that was opposition to Putin. He even said that Putin was leading Russia into the abyss.
        After Strelkov’s speech, I received an offer EXTREMELY (before 12 noon) to write a post about this for 10000 rubles. The essence of the post should be that Strelkov is *** and is preparing a new “Maidan.

        Dear PR service of our president! You messed up everything again! The State Department pays me, and you need to write to a person nicknamed fritzmorgen - it’s good, it’s not difficult to find him: we are located on the next line in the ratings of St. Petersburg! Please be vigilant and do not confuse anything! What do you pay money for, such mediocrity? And fire this fool Ivan Gashin - he just didn’t really *** set you up! He also wrote “Hello ...” in his own way. He, along the way, really confused me with someone. They get downs for work, and then they themselves suffer from them! Don’t do it, friends! You yourself will die on your head!
        1. I am Russian
          I am Russian 1 November 2015 09: 20
          15
          Important! Below are links to posts written for 10 rubles in the framework of this particular program to revoke Strelkov! It was in the very time period in which they suggested writing to me!

          I strongly recommend reading it to visually evaluate the primitiveness and clumsy propaganda. Only cheap things can write such cheap stuff (and there is a complete primitive sucked out of a finger), which, undoubtedly, are these UN dear authors.

          "My Strelkov died in Slavyansk." Link: sandra-nika.livejournal.com. Written at 9.45.
          Quote:
          “To be honest, I didn’t want to write anything about Mr. (not Mr.) Strelkov, for Mr. Strelkov died in Slavyansk (but the muddy Mr. Girkind survived, yes ...) and the dead are either good or true. But since recently Mr. Girkin has completely lost the coast and has shown himself to be an open enemy; as he began to run into the priests; since there was a rumor yesterday that Mr. Girkind was about to set up his own party, "strongly opposed to Putin’s course"; since yesterday I was told to the remark that Girkind very much resembles an enemy agent, what kind of agent is he if he started an uprising; there is a need for a small exorcism session. ”

          "Who dances Strelkova." Link: alexandr-rogers.livejournal.com. It was written around noon (the dude’s time in the posts was incorrectly set there. But the first comments begin at 12 o’clock).

          “We have already written several times that Igor Strelkov is surrounded by frank crooks and white-winged puppies who dream of the Russian Maidan. We wrote about the role of Yeltsinist Sulakshin, who actively provided information services for Navalny’s party during the “swamp” events, about the participation of Mr. Nesmiyan in the “white tape” rallies, and about other odious personalities surrounded by Strelkov ”

          “Why Yakunin Strelkov?” Link: rovego.livejournal.com. Written at 11.00

          "Morning coffee". Link: zergulio.livejournal.com. Written at 11.22

          Etc.

          That's what kind of solidarity bloggers have. Can you imagine what a coincidence? On the same day, at the same time, at intervals of half an hour, all of a sudden they all decided to write about Jirin. Coincidence? What is there usually answered by one popular TV presenter?

          How pleasant it is to realize that you are one of the few who knows for sure the true reason for the solidarity of bloggers so amazing in their synchronism. Here she is, and no mysticism: 10000 p.
          1. I am Russian
            I am Russian 1 November 2015 09: 22
            +5
            By social nets swept custom-made wave of harassment. Pay attention to the hashtag applied to Girkin. "Russian Maidan" ... It's about Girkin ... What is it designed for! Scary to imagine...

            So what can I tell you in the end? Look at rovego, zergulio, sandra_nika and alexandr_rogers and remember them as they are: unprincipled creatures ready to sell their "Motherland" for - ridiculous to say - for 10000 rubles. That's what people have been brought to. Yesterday’s idol was sold for 10000 rubles. Interestingly, when they sell Girkin for a penny, at least they remove the cross?

            Girkin collected the buckshot for them in the Donbass, and they put him into the expense for 10000 rubles ... Somehow it is not good ... dishonestly ... The Russians are not abandoning theirs, right? And certainly not betray ...

            UPD: The notorious Zhuchkovsky militia about this story!

            Alexander Zhuchkovsky
            Today in 0: 26
            "The public argues about my message about how they pay for denigrating Strelkov. The fact that they are paid is an indisputable fact, I spoke with people who were offered. Budgets are proposed and negotiated by citizens from an organization that is popularly called" apeshechka "(from The controversy was caused by the figures I mentioned. Firstly, the mentioned $ 30 thousand was offered, of course, not for one article or interview with criticism of Strelkov, but for his systematic denigration, and secondly, it was about a famous person with a large audience "

            http://via-midgard.info/news/print:page,1,39820-skolko-platyat-za-ochernenie-str
            elkova.html
            1. Straight
              Straight 1 November 2015 17: 26
              +2
              And I would definitely join the party Strelkova Igor Ivanovich. He is more honest and decent than many, and I also don’t like Serdyukov’s new appointment. I believe that the opposition Strelkov will be Putin’s best assistant in GOOD affairs and an adversary in BAD!
      2. GRAY
        GRAY 1 November 2015 09: 23
        -2
        Quote: regressSSSR
        ordering persecution shooter

        Strelkov’s rotten bazaar, also an ordering or what?
        Mismatch, however.
        1. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 09: 59
          +5
          Rotten bazaar of Vladimir Putin, in an interview, when he said "Let them just try ..." This is probably the order of the liberals to discredit the name of the great leader, right?
          1. Altona
            Altona 1 November 2015 11: 44
            -5
            Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
            Rotten bazaar of Vladimir Putin, in an interview, when he said "Let them just try ..." This is probably the order of the liberals to discredit the name of the great leader, right?

            ---------------------
            Something you got carried away in the bar, guys ... The article is about the transfer ... But in fact the transfer, things are said there that they clearly smell like rotten and are stated by Comrade Strelkov Igor Ivanovich (or Girkin Igor Vsevolodovich, I really I don’t know how to dignify it) ... So watch this program on Youtube, and then polemize in fact ... And so, no one pulled his tongue, he says that the Russian group in Syria is insufficient, in the Donbas of the forces of the republics not enough, everything is bad, everything is blown away, we all die ... How is this to be understood? When to go to the coffin, from his words?

            PS Comrade Strelkov, as it is, is very confidently heading in the opposite direction, despite the huge capital of trust that he had last year ... But to whistle the Trotsky mantra about total war around the world, I'm sorry ... I won’t pull the Russian peace war on the whole planet ...
        2. regsSSSR
          regsSSSR 1 November 2015 19: 21
          +4
          Quote: GRAY
          Quote: regressSSSR
          ordering persecution shooter

          Strelkov’s rotten bazaar, also an ordering or what?

          Mismatch, however.

          I gave a link that I was too lazy to open, well, let’s put it like that
          Hueviebin1
          If someone had told me yesterday that the PR people in the Kremlin would offer me to mix one person with shit for the money in my blog, I would turn my finger around the temple. But this happened. Last morning I was asked to write nasty things about a very famous person! For the money, of course. Oh, you won’t believe what kind of person. I myself did not believe it. So, what do you think, who I was offered to crap for a fee? Ready to find out? Take air into your chest ... It remains to wait a bit, and the curtain hiding this secret from prying eyes will fall ...
          Oh, right now it will be ... just sweetie. So ... as they said in one Soviet film, "you will not believe: I am leaving for Gagra" ...
          Curtain falls...
          And here is this man whom the pro-Kremlin PR managers suggested to me to mix with shit: But the essence is this ... A day earlier Strelkov at some meeting announced that he intends to create an opposition party to Putin. He even said that Putin was leading Russia into the abyss.
          After Strelkov’s speech, I received an offer EXTREMELY (before 12 noon) to write a post about this for 10000 rubles. The essence of the post should be that Strelkov is preparing a new “Maidan.
          there esho continuation is
          http://hueviebin1.livejournal.com/199165.html

          here ask yourself the question: what are these grief scribes all as if on a command climbed out right now and we all started to blame like a carbon copy! that they couldn’t find more worthy use for their talents? where were these great heroes before? were you silent? oh yeah they probably fought for Slavyansk sitting at home behind a laptop with a cup of coffee on soft sofas scribbling everyones like a machine gun well
          correctly rozhin (Colonel Cassad) wrote about such a quote from the novel
          "I ran after you for 3 days to tell how you are not interesting to me." !
  12. noWAR
    noWAR 1 November 2015 06: 28
    0
    Piarasty on blood, they can't do anything, good, they earn themselves points, but who has a question? Only it seems to me that the assessors are "putting on the wrong horse".
  13. shinobi
    shinobi 1 November 2015 06: 47
    -1
    Well, it’s not just that Strelkov was removed from Novorosia. He was offended, it happens. Elmurid seems to be an orientalist who has climbed into domestic politics. In general, they began to forget about the comrades lately, but they are in vain with criticism. take a pencil.
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 1 November 2015 07: 07
      +2
      Quote: shinobi
      .Elmurid, sort of like an orientalist


      "Kind of like" is the key.
  14. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 1 November 2015 07: 10
    +1
    2) surrender quietly to New Russia;

    This reminds of an anecdote about a wolf and a hare: - "why do you go without a hat? ..."
    Even though in a "hat", even without a "hat", you will still "get it", it is still to blame ...
    Well, everything is clear to me with the fifth column, but Igor Strelkov is a "dark horse" for me. what
  15. Ivan Slavyanin
    Ivan Slavyanin 1 November 2015 07: 25
    -5
    I’m interested in such events: Girkin went to the Donbass after the Crimea, but the APU didn’t get into tanks and Girkin, until they got RPGs, Sushki didn’t fly until the militia got funds to shoot down Ukrainian planes. At first, the national battalions did not drive the protests in the Donbass until Girkin came to the Donbass! My opinion is that Girkin was, and is, the cog of drawing Russia into the war in Ukraine.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 08: 21
      23
      Well, then you have memory problems. Drying did not fly. But helicopters flew. Which shot down.

      And the tanks climbed right away, by the way. Just 2-3 pieces each, because at that time the Ukrainian military had few willing to shed blood. If you remember, at the beginning of the Slavic defense, people simply stopped armored personnel carriers with their hands and fed the "poor soldiers".
      And the first blood was spilled through great efforts.
      But on the 2 of May Odessa happened. And then the first assault on Slavyansk. And everyone's roof leaked. And dill began to throw tanks more and more actively. But nobody wanted to die / kill anyway. I was looking for any excuse to get out of the battle.
      You read the news of that time. And the memory will be refreshed.
  16. samarin1969
    samarin1969 1 November 2015 07: 29
    +6
    Quote: regressSSSR
    I trust only these sources, the rest of the order on persecution of shooters is not interesting to me and no matter how beautifully they painted everything there, and I’m not even going to spend my time reading it


    Support.
  17. Magadan
    Magadan 1 November 2015 07: 33
    20
    Eh ... well, what can I say.
    The essence is simple: all sorts of nits and schemers are very afraid of honest and direct people. And those bastards that were entrenched in the Russian government are no exception. Such as Strelkov (Bednov, Brain, etc.) are afraid. Because it’s unpredictable. So all sorts of nastiness poured
    Someone scanned Strelkov's brain and from there printed out his thoughts about the "Maidan"?
    I'll tell you one thing - you guys, can you show any SPECIFIC things to Strelkov ?! Or are you like that bydlomass who first shouts "Hosanna" and three days later "Crucify him, crucify" ?!
    The fact that this article was written by a priest means nothing. Christ was also crucified by the "priests".

    Thanks Strelkov got up and defeated the Donbass. Or am I wrong ?! Or did the Marmots, Kurginians and other Khodakovsky do it?

    Oh yes, I get it! Strelkov promised Kurginyan to die in Slavyansk. Together with the Militia. And he took, such a bastard, and deceived! And then he also dared dill South Boiler 1.0. arrange!
    SPECIFICALLY tell me IN FACTS, what is Strelkov’s fault or other merit ?!
    Otherwise, how can you, "patriots" be distinguished from dill? That those in response to logical arguments have one answer - "because Putin is to blame for everything," that you, Surkovites-Kurginyakovites, are the same!

    Here you guys are funny facts about how some Surkov scribblers write all sorts of muck about Strelkov for loot:

    http://od-novorossia.livejournal.com/

    excerpt from the article:

    “After Strelkov's speech, I received an offer EXTREMELY (before 12 noon) to write a post about this for 10000 rubles. The essence of the post should be that Strelkov is pi ... and is preparing a new“ Maidan.
    Dear PR service of our president! You messed it up again! The State Department pays me, but you need to write to a person nicknamed fritzmorgen - fortunately, it's not difficult to find him: we are on the neighboring lines in the ratings of St. Petersburg "

    further links are given to those who immediately began to write nasty things about Strelkov, literally half an hour later, an hour later
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 1 November 2015 09: 36
      +4
      Quote: Magadan
      they write all sorts of nasty things about Strelkova:

      Strelkov "sends" militias from Donbass to Syria:

      There is a saying, such: "shut up - you will pass for the clever one."
      No need to write nasty things about him, because he himself is a corrupt reptile. Well that manifested itself, now his supporters will diminish.
      1. KGB WATCH YOU
        KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 09: 45
        +5
        Ie do not send or offer? Can you back up your words? Naturally, these people are no longer needed in Donbass (because, according to Allah Vladimirovich, "Donbass is Ukraine, and whoever thinks differently is * urak") and they are offered to go to Syria for money. Shooters did not say anything criminal.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 1 November 2015 10: 00
          0
          Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
          Ie do not send and do not offer? Can you confirm your words?

          Girkin cannot confirm his words, let's start with this. He himself says: “I don’t have information now,” but presenting something serious.
          The video does not contain my words - what are my questions?

          And even if you just think a little with your head, and not with w., Do you need laymen in Syria? I don’t even speak about knowledge of Arabic.
          1. KGB WATCH YOU
            KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 10: 09
            +1
            It turns out that you do not know anything about the Syrian conflict, about the "Slavic battalion", about volunteers from the former USSR in the Assad army and the Syrian militia, but you say that Strelkov is sending Donbass militias somewhere?
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 1 November 2015 11: 34
              +3
              Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
              It turns out that you don't know anything about the Syrian conflict, about the "Slavic battalion

              In ukronet they know a lot about it, there "experts" and unnamed sources sit on top of each other and drive each other. They already know everything "about the Slavic battalion."
              And social networks should not be forgotten, because they are simply a storehouse of the most reliable information (the State Department will confirm my words, if that).
        2. GRAY
          GRAY 1 November 2015 10: 05
          +2
          Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
          Naturally, these people are no longer needed in the Donbass

          What do you mean they are not needed there? This is their home and they live there. Hrenase "naturally".
          1. KGB WATCH YOU
            KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 10: 13
            +1
            They are not needed there, because Donbass is Ukraine, and they will be sent to prison or even cleared out. Also in the militia are people from Russia, Belarus, Europe. There are just those who ride around the world and fight.
            1. GRAY
              GRAY 1 November 2015 10: 50
              +3
              Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
              They are not needed there, because Donbass is Ukraine, and they will be sent to prison or even cleared out.

              There, in general, the entire population will be cleaned up or they will survive on Russian territory if the militia leaves there. Do you really think that they will abandon their relatives and go to Syria to get the loot? There is a separate conversation about citizens of other states - only those who decided to stay permanently remained there. The army, in LDNR, has long been transferred to a contractual basis, and signing a contract means falling under an article in your own country.
              "Free shooters" are not needed in any army.
      2. guzik007
        guzik007 1 November 2015 10: 32
        +9
        Well, what is Strelkov, in your opinion, Uv Sergei issued - sold? What he said in an interview is, in essence, an open secret, and his vision of the situation and analytical reflections are his personal opinion and his right to do so. Well, this habit has been ingrained in us from an early age, instilled by the pioneer-Komsomol, to think collectively, and those the few who have a point of view other than the generally accepted should be immediately ostracized and humiliated. I just remember how a year ago our current generals sang praises to a man, and then poured mud on him, to their honor today they "did not stand here." We know very little about all the circumstances of his departure and the reasons for his current confrontation with the authorities, but knowing this power, and it consists not only of GDP, so knowing our power and not harboring any special illusions about this, I do not think that Strelkov is a traitor and so on.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 1 November 2015 11: 08
          +2
          Quote: guzik007
          and the current generals sang praises to man,

          So what? Then it seemed that the subject was doing the right thing, his information support was not weak. However, time puts everything in its place and Girkin himself contributes to this process.
          There is only one circumstance for leaving: "Putin bring in the troops" - this is the only motive for standing in Slavyansk and as defense minister this man would do exactly the same, only on a large scale, while his passivity could easily ruin the republics.


          And it’s not at all a fact that he invented it himself. They did it right that they turned it, the subsequent series of boilers is proof of this.
        2. GRAY
          GRAY 1 November 2015 11: 17
          +1
          Quote: guzik007
          Well, what about Strelkov, in your opinion, Uv. Sergei issued, sold? What he said in an interview is essentially an open secret, and his vision and analytical thoughts are his personal opinion and his right to do so.

          Navalny has a personal opinion, Khodorkovsky has a personal opinion, Vasilyeva has a personal opinion ...
          This is not analytics, but allegations, Girkin is trying to use the remnants of his authority to form public opinion.
          Fondik organized him, only in order to reanimate this political corpse.
          And now, in the absence of the best, they decided to use this corpse to the end.
          I don’t believe a penny in the independence of the subject.
          1. kroog
            kroog 1 November 2015 13: 24
            0
            You are already writing about some kind of necrophilia))))
          2. regsSSSR
            regsSSSR 1 November 2015 21: 03
            +3
            GRAY
            Navalny has a personal opinion, Khodorkovsky has a personal opinion, Vasilyeva has a personal opinion ...
            This is not analytics, but allegations, Girkin is trying to use the remains of his authority for


            remember pawns do not exist and there can be no personal opinion, this is a priori! all the people you listed are pawns of certain structures in connection with this, their so-called (their opinion) is straightforward and does not depart from the canons of the interests of their employers, so this is a bad example.
            Yes, there are no ideal people in nature; this is nonsense; absolutely everything is mistaken in one way or another! Therefore, absolutely any person can be trampled into the dirt, and the more significant and honest the person is, the easier it is to do it (it doesn’t happen innocent! (I. Stalin) and it’s already been proved by time! Simply if you make a mistake or an incorrectly spoken word this is even someone will not notice and will not rush after you with cameras analyzing every word of yours by the bones! but the higher the personality, the higher the stakes in the big game here the game goes according to other rules where for a frequent mistake or incorrect action two things mean glory or death! where it doesn’t your whether the actions or intentions will either exalt you or they will drown you in the mud, the very ones who praised them to such an extent! It all depends on the decision of the central authority, it is she who gives the main go-ahead for harassing or praising a certain character depending on the situation and the actions of this character itself! shooters it’s just not only a talented officer who went through more than one war, but also proved by deeds that he is worthy of attention to his personality (and the unrelenting mouse fuss around his person only once again proves this!) and also a fairly intelligent person to perfectly understanding and aware of how the state apparatus works and all these structures where if you don’t want to end your life with just a hero (ala Mozgavoy, etc.) one has to spin in order to continue the fight, it can be other methods, but the main thing is alive! Chegevar time has passed now, such people are no longer needed by anyone and certainly do not live long! they will either be persecuted to death if it doesn’t work out. They will be completely ruled by those who control the media and Internet resources, where it becomes almost impossible to get to the truth and for the abundance of fakes and slops.
            I followed the actions of the rifleman from the very beginning! maybe I disagree with him in some details, but I completely approve of his actions and repeat myself, for me, regardless of the situation, he will always remain a hero!
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 November 2015 11: 22
      +3
      Quote: Magadan
      The bottom line is simple: all sorts of nits and schemers are very afraid of honest and direct people
  18. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 1 November 2015 07: 52
    0
    Well, in early spring I still expressed my opinion
    Yuri Y. RU March 24, 2015 11:00 | Strelkov-Girkin. Does the story go on?
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    they judge a man by his deeds ...
    I welcome everyone. I want to say what was noticed in the posts above. It's not about his actions in the Donbass, whether they were completely incompetent, there was nothing to talk about. But in the very first interview in Russia, he immediately began to give up talking about the "north wind." While official Russia denied participation in any form, except for the personal participation of citizens. Although, of course, a controversial issue (maybe the Kremlin has decided to appear, it's not clear just why), but I left an unpleasant impression. I have already said, but since the conversation started again, the general situation must also be taken into account. If there was a desire to drag Russia into the conflict, how? Crimea quietly and peacefully sailed away. But pro-Russian sentiments remained in Novorossiya, which is natural. But in an unorganized form, suppressed by the Nazis (work for the leaders). Here Strelkov appears. It turns out that everyone needs it, except for real Natsiks but their owners. Local leaders are under the hood, but there is one here. As I understand it, he held on. But Russia intervenes and he is taken out. Maybe in the dark, they used his character, but the logical chain is very likely if we focus on the involvement of Russia. Many small facts (for example, the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Slavensk) speak of this

    Well, there were still rumors of staged acts (Hollywood) on his part at that time. Now I am inclined to believe that he consciously PR (after all of his interviews) on the subject of fighting, heroically dying, help (in the sense of Russia, send troops). And now they are trying to use these developments. Moreover, now, apart from the patriotic wave, nothing will win and there was a conversation to use it.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 08: 04
      +6
      maybe Suvorov and Kutuzov were also "PR" back then ?!
      Or the defenders of the Brest Fortress ?!

      That is, it turns out that Strelkov, Motorola, Dubovoy, the deceased Gypsy and other Slavic Heroes were "promoting" under the shelling, but these scribblers who are sitting at home, they mean forging the victory of Donbass ?!
      so does it come out ?!
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 1 November 2015 09: 23
        0
        Quote: Magadan
        they mean they forged the victory of Donbass ?!

        You did not give any arguments, but expressed only your emotions (in the first place). Secondly, what have Suvorov, Kutuzov and Alexander Nevsky to do with it. We condemn the actions of a person in a specific operational and political environment as well as his current behavior. And how to create the necessary natural reaction (patriotic) without real patriots. In this case, I said that the patriots and Strelkov are separately from each other if you do not understand. Nevertheless, forging the victory mostly began after the intervention of Russia and Strelkov’s withdrawal.
  19. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 1 November 2015 08: 00
    0
    Strelkov / Girkin is an adventurer, it is very accurately said in the article.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 08: 06
      +2
      and bydlomass remains bydlomass. Is always. Alas.
      Whether there are facts or not, it doesn't matter: "m. Skali are to blame for everything," "who does not jump that mo.skal," "Putin's terrorist troops," and the current "shooters-radish-PR-in-Slavyansk"
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 1 November 2015 08: 58
        +5
        Quote: Magadan
        and bydlomass remains bydlomass. Is always. Alas.


        And what, forgive me, is it better for you if people with a different opinion from yours are "one size fits all" ?! The author of the article "hung labels", but you, no ?! Personally, I make up my opinion about Strelkov based on simple reports about his actions and on his personal statements.
        1. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 09: 48
          +7
          Personally, I make up my opinion about Strelkov by simple reports of his actions and his personal statements


          So do I. Vladimir Putin, his secretary, Lavrov and others have been saying for 2 years that Donbass is Ukraine. But when I call these individuals traitors, they call me a "putinsist" and "liberal". Am I wrong?
          1. B.T.V.
            B.T.V. 1 November 2015 10: 33
            +2
            Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
            . Vladimir Putin, his secretary, Lavrov and others have been saying for 2 years that Donbass is Ukraine


            Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
            Am I wrong?


            Wrong, Ilya! 2 years ago Donbass was Ukraine.
  20. Vladimir65
    Vladimir65 1 November 2015 08: 03
    -2
    After Girkin surrendered Slavyansk and then I wrote in the Military Review: “Girkin (Strelkov) revealed himself well in his interview with Prokhanov, where for the first time he himself told everything about the surrender of Slavyansk and the attempt to surrender Donetsk. Most likely, Girkin was a provocateur, led by hidden and explicit puppeteers . His connection with Prosvirnin (the singer of the White Guard movement) speaks volumes. " I was minus then for this comment, but now ...
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 08: 14
      16
      after Kutuzov surrendered Moscow, it became clear to me too - he was a provocateur!
      And the heroes are those with kurginki.
      And it doesn’t matter that Kutuzov retained the Army in order to win.
      It is also unimportant that Strelkov retained his small army in order to create the first army around him in New Russia, to arrange the first cauldron in dill, near Izvarino.
      It doesn’t matter that Strelkov smashed dill, not the marmots and Khodakovskys. Shooters did not allow to surround and take Donetsk. Shooters arranged the First Cauldron. This Motorola repulsed the attack on Illovaysk, after which the Ilovaysky boiler already happened.
      None of this matters. The main thing is that "people write" that "Shooters is a radish adventurer". And we will write this way too. For this is the trend today.

      ONCE AGAIN YOU ask: WHAT SPECIFICALLY did Strelkov bad ?!
      I already wrote about Slavyansk. Do not agree? It was necessary there and die Strelkov with the Militia ?! So that later, such as Khodakovsky in Donetsk, Nazi thugs launched?
  21. Magadan
    Magadan 1 November 2015 08: 17
    +7
    Quote: Yuri Ya.
    Well, there were still rumors of staged acts (Hollywood) on his part at that time.



    Well, there were rumors that in the Great Patriotic War Hitler and Stalin actually played an agreement ...


    What do you have besides "rumors" ?!
    And then you never know, the time is now, I would like facts and figures, and not "rumors"
    1. German Titov
      German Titov 1 November 2015 09: 13
      +2
      Strelkov commanded the entire militia, not only in Slavyansk. From Slavyansk to Donetsk more than 100 km. From May to July, it was possible to build a "sickly" defense, right? In July, in Donetsk, we had 1 Kalash for 3 people. And who did Khodakovsky launch in the DPR? Where did the interests of the Republic betray?
      1. KGB WATCH YOU
        KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 09: 52
        +7
        Logically, weapons went from Russia to Donetsk, and from there to Strelkov to Slavyansk, right? That is, on the way he was stolen by all sorts of Khodakovsky, who are not against returning to Ukraine, but Strelkov, who was in a semi-circle, was to blame?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 November 2015 11: 30
          +7
          Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
          Ie on the way he was stolen by all sorts of Khodakovsky,

          It was not for nothing that Bezler dispersed the mess (arranged by the Vostok battalion) in the Donetsk administration. And by the way, the same Bezler talked about possible interaction ONLY with Strelkov.
          1. I am Russian
            I am Russian 1 November 2015 11: 52
            +9
            AB Mozgovoy on a voluntary basis subordinated his (then) battalion "Ghost" (Lisichansk) to Strelkov (from Slavyansk).
            The Vostok battalion was engaged (May-June 2014) only in the extraction of cars and other property, as well as in the carve-up and sale of military aid from Voentorg. A small share of equipment and b / p was sent to Slavyansk.
            Even after Strelkov left Slavyansk, Vostok did not obey and only in rare cases coordinated its actions with the militia.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 1 November 2015 12: 13
              +4
              Quote: I-Russian
              A. B. Mozgovoy

              Here, kill some, discredit others. Bezler understands this, and therefore does not climb further than Gorlovka. And "our" media does not cover it at all, although the personality is outstanding, like Mozgovoy and Strelkov.
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      2. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 1 November 2015 10: 00
        0
        Quote: Magadan
        I would like facts and figures, not "rumors"

        No need to take expressions out of the context of the comment and be responsible for 3 km from it. It was just an addition to the above logical chain against which you did not object.
    2. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 1 November 2015 11: 03
      +7
      Even his enemies admit that he was not hiding from bullets. And how many "PR people" would personally dare to lead an armed detachment in a combat situation (Kurginyan?).
      I have the right to my political activity, like any citizen of the Russian Federation. Within the framework of the law. If he begins to overthrow power with the help of weapons, I will stand against him.
      About the losses in Syria, the jamb is big. Something has happened in the wrong steppe. Tell me who can. So, in general, you can disperse everyone around you.
    3. Vladimir65
      Vladimir65 2 November 2015 19: 26
      0
      It’s not yet evening, and this article is not the last. Almost all friends of the rector Strelkov turned away from him. Prsvirnin and Molofeev remained, and they would soon take their feet.
  22. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 1 November 2015 08: 34
    +6
    -Who are these heroes?
    -Heroes, these are soldiers of the victorious side!
    -And who are the soldiers of the loser?
    - rapists, bandits and killers! (with)


    ps. There is nothing to add ....
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 11: 15
      +6
      generally murderers, rapists and ki - those who burned people LIVE on the 2 of May in Odessa. And who also went on the 2 of May to the 1 storm of Slavyansk. Just the very ones against which Strelkov fought. And who won, despite the fact that the killer-rapists were ten times more!
      1. Grim Reaper
        Grim Reaper 1 November 2015 21: 50
        0
        I'm just talking about the media ... no more.
  23. sa-ag
    sa-ag 1 November 2015 08: 51
    0
    People tend to desire to become a pioneer in something and bring it to the attention of others, a minute of fame however, albeit inconsistently in the logic of events
  24. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 1 November 2015 09: 18
    -7
    Masks have been thrown off gentlemen, finally those who have been fooling their heads with the Russian people for so long have shown their true insides! Whose are you going to be, Mr. Girkin, or whatever? Painfully strongly from you and your "friends" smacks of American goof-ts and it seems you a little "outdid" "Matza's Ear"! Here, some of our comrades propose to "plant" people like Girkin and his comrades, and I propose a simpler option: to transfer these descendants of Khlestakov or "children of Lieutenant Schmidt" to the judicial authorities of the DPR LPR and let them determine their fate! On the pages of VO several times information "flashed" about the true rank and position of Mr. Girkin and about the fact that he had nothing to do with the GRU special forces, and even more so the rank of colonel, had and does not have, but just an ordinary warrant officer of the SA and he is also a "reenactor" who entered the role that still can't get out of it! Be kind colleagues, confirm or deny these rumors!
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 09: 53
      +5
      Whose Mr. Girkin will you be or how are you?

      And whose will you be Mr. Putin, Lavrov, Peskov, or how are you? When you tell the electorate for 2 years that Donbass is Ukraine, but they still blame Strelkova for everything, mmm?
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 1 November 2015 10: 25
        +1
        Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
        When you tell the electorate for 2 years that Donbass is Ukraine,


        Good day, Ilya! It’s clear, yours, indignation, but until May last year, Donbass was Ukraine.
        1. KGB WATCH YOU
          KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 10: 31
          +7
          Good day, Ilya! It’s clear, yours, indignation, but until May last year, Donbass was Ukraine.


          Good I know lol I am surprised by the "patriotic" public, which blames Strelkov for everything and imposes mythical "calls to overthrow the government" on him.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 1 November 2015 11: 50
            +3
            Quote: KGB WATCH YOU
            I am surprised by the "patriotic" public, which blames Strelkov for everything and imposes mythical "calls to overthrow the government" on him.

            Well, the electorate is shown the right picture in the media, so that he would respond accordingly to the current moment :-)
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 11: 04
      10
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      several times "flashed" information about the true rank and position of Mr. Girkin and that he had nothing to do with the "special forces of the GRU" and even more so with the rank of colonel



      and yet:

      - 3 of the month kept Slavyansk against the enemy, who had 100 times more tanks, who had artillery with MLRS, planes and 20 times more soldiers

      - rasshrenach all the "special forces" from NATO PMKashniki and Ukropov special forces

      - made the first Cauldron with dill, without tanks and artillery. Of the captured MLRS burned their equipment, and from the remaining Militias received the first tanks.
      1. family tree
        family tree 1 November 2015 15: 13
        +1
        Quote: Magadan
        - 3 of the month kept Slavyansk against the enemy, who had 100 times more tanks, who had artillery with MLRS, planes and 20 times more soldiers

        - rasshrenach all the "special forces" from NATO PMKashniki and Ukropov special forces

        - Managed to withdraw from Slavyansk militias, from under attack, with a minimum of losses.
        - made the first Cauldron with dill, without tanks and artillery. Of the captured MLRS burned their equipment, and from the remaining Militias received the first tanks.

        The personality is ambiguous. Great tactics, no politician what It’s not possible in politics, your opinion in clear text on the forehead belay There it’s different, to talk, to agree, to hug in a friendly, left, and right hand, stick a knife into the liver request
        Although, Strelkov himself has repeatedly stated that he, well, not a fig is not a politician request Yes, and his affiliation with the GRU, he heard only from others, he himself never stated this, like request
    3. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 1 November 2015 11: 18
      +5
      Do not bring nonsense, dear. The law of the state does not allow extraditing its citizens to anyone. Even if it is Sobchak Ks.
    4. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 2 November 2015 00: 27
      +3
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      Masks have been thrown off gentlemen, finally those who have been fooling their heads with the Russian people for so long have shown their true insides! Whose are you going to be, Mr. Girkin, or whatever? It hurts a lot from you and your "friends"
      The angry cry of the confused head of a Russian person, one must understand laughing


      kartalovkolya May 26, 2014 09:19

      What can be added is that as long as there are people like Strelkov, not everything is lost and we all have a future, in which there will be no place for international terrorist and gendarme in the person of the United States!

      http://topwar.ru/index.php?newsid=48896


      People have always been and always will be stupid victims of fraud and self-deception in politics, until they learn to seek the interests of particular classes for any moral, religious, political, social phrases, statements, promises.
      Proponents of reform and improvement will always be fooled by the defenders of the old, until they understand that every old institution, no matter how wild and rotten it may seem, is held by the forces of one or another ruling class. And in order to break down the resistance of these classes, there is only one way: to find in the society around us, to enlighten and organize for the struggle such forces that can - and according to their social position - have to form a force that can sweep away the old and create the new.
      I. Lenin t. 23 p. 47
      1. Disant
        Disant 2 November 2015 05: 22
        +1
        plusan street! so will the answer be mastered? Or will he answer under a different nickname?
      2. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 2 November 2015 13: 47
        0
        It is not unpleasant, but I must admit that I was also "charmed" by the image of the Russian Che Guevara, in the person of Strelkov-Girkin, but time puts everything in its place (a hangover, though bitter sometimes comes, is better late than not when)! Everything that I said in the commentary and so minus my sincere thoughts (betrayal has always been disgusting to a Russian person), well, a public person cannot and should not change his statements so much as Strelkov-Girkin did at this ever-memorable "round table", yesterday Putin - the best President, and today is exactly the opposite! I got the impression that its most fierce enemies dug in under the guise of "patriots of Russia" and that Strelkov-Girkin moved into their camp (or maybe he was originally)! So minus the grief of the hurray-patriots, but I want to remind one good proverb of our fierce not quite friends: "... they don't change horses when crossing ...!"
  25. onix757
    onix757 1 November 2015 09: 18
    +4
    So, with the help of such articles, the government discredits the heroes and subsequently sews their business. They are patriots of the motherland but not of the state and such a gender of Russia.
    1. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 09: 55
      +7
      The main patriots, of course, are Putin and Lavrov, who have been repeating for 2 years that the Donbass is Ukraine, but this does not reach the electorate, and Strelkov is to blame. Of course, because he did not die in Slavyansk.
  26. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 1 November 2015 09: 28
    +5
    And I consider Oles Buzin a real hero and patriot; he did not change his beliefs and principles until his death hour. Yes, he did not fight with weapons in his hands, his weapon was the word.
  27. Altona
    Altona 1 November 2015 09: 45
    -4
    You let us down, Igor Ivanovich ... And we believed you ...
    1. onix757
      onix757 1 November 2015 09: 49
      +9
      Maybe then the words of GDP here too .. for objectivity
      1. Babr
        Babr 1 November 2015 10: 04
        +4
        Quote: onix757
        Maybe then the words of GDP here too .. for objectivity

        Russians do not abandon their? People see what they want to see.
        The rest does not interest them.
    2. KGB WATCH YOU
      KGB WATCH YOU 1 November 2015 09: 57
      +7
      Let them just try to shoot! (with)
    3. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 10: 59
      +7
      Is this evidence that Strelkov is a radish?
      Okay, let's go over the points:

      - "I will not rent Slavyansk."
      Do you know that dill also read it? Those. if you throw misinformation for the enemy in order to win, is it considered "dishonest"?
      Strelkov won? Won. Who defended Donetsk? Who made the first pot of dill? Despite the fact that dill had a hundredfold superiority in technology and 20-times in people?

      - "I will not go into politics"
      Desa, launched for the bastards that the Russian authorities dug in. Like those creatures, thanks to which the daughter of a bureaucrat from Irkutsk, who shot down two children, walks free without having spent a day. Or do you not believe in the existence of bastards in the Russian government, who, fearing Strelkov, would do anything to kill Novorossia in the bud?

      - "I am for the President"
      he did not say against. Let’s quote it. I read all his articles

      - "I will not create a party."
      The same desa, especially for the bastards in power. The later the bastards know the intentions of the Patriots and Heroes, the better for Russia
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 1 November 2015 11: 27
        +7
        Tolley will still be. The real wave will trample when he in nature will climb into politics. Who controls the media, he covers the clearing. The VP realized this immediately after the Kursk. and right ... that's all democracy.
      2. Vladimir65
        Vladimir65 7 November 2015 15: 12
        0
        On Wednesday, November 4, 2015, before the show "Duedok" on channel Russia 1, Soloviev apologized to Kurginyan and said that he was wrong in his assessment of Strelkov. Why endlessly promote the deflated "hero".
  28. akudr48
    akudr48 1 November 2015 10: 05
    10
    Hidden call for the overthrow of power?

    1.
    Interesting headline. Let's see what the Call is. From the dictionary
    A call is a desire to draw attention to one’s presence or to arouse the attention of others, the process of disseminating and bringing people any ideas or goals.

    And the hidden call - what is this new miracle of spreading and bringing ideas to people? How can one bring an idea, thought to an individual person secretly (silently, staring into the eyes, through hypnosis), and still not understand how this hidden message will reach the masses?

    The teacher brings ideas in the lesson, the priest in the sermon, the stands in the rostrum, etc., everyone brings thoughts openly, and then they learned to secretly convey, openly saying new words in psychiatry, as in schizophrenia, when ideas are brought, for example, through voices in my head ...

    2.
    The author writes
    It is clear that spit on the Christians Maxim Kalashnikov, who is known for his dense militant atheism. El Murido, since he seems to be a Muslim (or maybe an atheist), the Christian theme is also indifferent. But why did Igor Ivanovich Strelkov, who considers himself Orthodox, completely ignore the topic of the protection of Christians by Russia in Syria?

    How is it that the author took over the functions of the Holy Synod and excommunicated people from the church? The author knows who is Christian and who is not and allows himself to excommunicate, and for what, for strange smirks?

    El Murid could be dealt with who he is, a Muslim (is that bad already?) Or an atheist before declaring so that he, this Murid, is indifferent and not. And if he is a Christian, then what?

    Moreover, as our Supreme Commander said, Russia is fighting terrorism in Syria, the Commander-in-Chief did not speak about the protection of Christians, there is no need to add from yourself conclusions from the untold words of the Leader, no ...

    3.
    There is no limit to the arrogance and deceit of Strelkov, Kalashnikov and El Murid. After all, it is well known that obsolete American ballistic missiles are significantly inferior to our modern ballistic missiles.
    Since the author will allow himself to excommunicate people from the church and determine at a distance who the Christian is, who is Muslim, and who, God forbid, is an atheist, then of course, with regard to the personal qualities of specific persons Strelkov, Kalashnikov and El Murid, they can confidently declare them infinite impudence and deceit, however, also at a distance, and then in return you can get ...

    These impudent characters slander our ballistic missiles and extol obsolete American similar products. At the same time, we must assume that the author has education, work experience and sufficient knowledge in the military sphere to claim that he is stronger, an elephant or a tank.

    4.
    The author is dissatisfied with the ECHO OF MOSCOW. You can understand.
    Strelkov .... spoke perfectly in the spirit of Echo of Moscow. If this is not a betrayal, then what?

    So, ECHO MOSCOW is a treacherous radio station. But is the author aware that our own patriotic GAZPROM owns this ECHO, that their ideological boss, Venya Diktov, in the pool of Kremlin journalists, has repeatedly said that the Secretary of the Commander-in-Chief, Peskov, is a friend of this Veni.
    It turns out that enemies and traitors are not only in the ECHO, but also much higher ...

    5.
    The author signed at the same time as a priest, publicist and member of the Writers' Union.
    Personally, I couldn’t speak out for myself, I had to hide for the Church and the Union, which is not good ...
  29. dmitrymb
    dmitrymb 1 November 2015 10: 13
    0
    Burry always strained me ...
  30. kare
    kare 1 November 2015 10: 30
    -5
    Who in the subject, quote on the duck poster? Or really were expressed by Girkin.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 10: 42
      10
      yes uzhzhzh

      primitive to disgrace.

      reminds ukrop sites and other "censor.net-s". Sticking up a picture in a post is a demotivator and use it as proof that Russia shot down a Boeing ...


      You know what, guys: in spite of brainwashing in the States, stupid Americans even better include their heads.
    2. kare
      kare 1 November 2015 12: 11
      +1
      And why did you run out of things? The article was originally accompanied by this poster. The author simply did not want to rip it off entirely. It looks like a duck. Googled nothing like that, he did not say. But on the other hand, express your opinion on the "echo ..." resource.
  31. ehomenkov
    ehomenkov 1 November 2015 10: 35
    -6
    Sorry for Girkin. I admired him when he took up the organization of self-defense detachments from the crowd of peasants with berdanks, he succeeded in that ... He passed fire and water, but he was weak before the ringing of copper pipes ... He would have to pause and shut up now , -an no - further and further the swamp of false glory sucks in ...
  32. revnagan
    revnagan 1 November 2015 10: 47
    +4
    The article is written in the spirit of "Comrade Ehrenburg." "... This is true ... this is not true ... this is a blatant lie ... the strongest fleet ..." Brothers, there is an attempt to manipulate consciousness by repeating "mantras." “He who has musk in his pocket does not shout about it to others. And Girkin is a really interesting figure. And who he really is: Gapon or Kotovsky is not yet very clear.
  33. w3554152
    w3554152 1 November 2015 10: 57
    -7
    A few months after leaving Donbass, in one of his interviews, Strelkov said that he started the war and expected Putin to support him. Actually, whether he is even a warrant officer, even a colonel, even a colonel general, even acting, even retired, independently launching a war on behalf of a superpower and making demands on the President and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of the superpower are punished by execution on the spot. Strelkov himself, according to his own statements, shot in Slavyansk and for lesser sins. Girkin is a project of the West to force Russia to commit aggression in order to FOREVER consider our country as a rogue state and a criminal country. Girkin wants to hang aggression on Russia and thereby equate it with fascist Germany. Girkin is a pro-Western provocateur.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 11: 26
      +4
      about!
      Q.E.D!!! Those little people who are in power by no means can forgive the uprising of Donbass! Not in their multi-paths it was. They have kids over the hill and loot in the same place. And personal sanctions, well, soooooo inopportune!

      Here you wrote everything correctly. This is precisely the "Maidan" and "treason" by Strelkov.

      Only here, for Strelkov, the Homeland is not the nits that have entrenched themselves in power.
  34. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 1 November 2015 11: 01
    +1
    Shooters-a warrior Yes ... (defense of Slavyansk no words!) But there are no shooters of a politician .. In vain he climbed there! But he swore that he won’t go into politics .. IT'S GUILTY! And LET'S NOT COMPLAINT ... In my memory he remains as the head of the defense of Slavyansk (until the very last he held while the defense was organized in the Donbass) hi I said everything ...
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 11: 34
      +2
      Alexander Nevsky as a Warrior - yes, but as a politician no?

      Dmitry Donskoy as a Warrior - yes, but as a politician no?

      Did I understand your logic correctly?
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 1 November 2015 13: 23
        +2
        Quote: Magadan
        Alexander Nevsky as a Warrior - yes, but as a politician no?

        Dmitry Donskoy as a Warrior - yes, but as a politician no?

        Did I understand your logic correctly?

        Yes, right..! Here are just Strelkova (Girkin) to compare with such historical figures .. Alas, it's funny! hi Strelkov, as a militia commander in Slavyansk, I liked ... And then he started freaking out, just ... And that’s all! I saw such personalities on the site too .. bully
  35. His
    His 1 November 2015 11: 16
    -5
    Shooters started not bad, but you see not born to be a revolutionary. Ruined everything. In Donetsk, they still remember the surrender of Slavyansk.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 11: 18
      +6
      I have a friend of 2 brothers in the Militia. They pray for Strelkov. Who "remembers the change" there?
      Does Motorola remember? Maybe Dubova recalls? BUT?
      The fact that Khodakovsky "recalls" I have no doubt.
      1. His
        His 1 November 2015 12: 16
        -1
        Probably better from the USA. But there are devastating interviews with Boroday and Zakharchenko, and these people mean a lot in the history of the DPR, not the hysterical shooters. Sorry escaped ...
        1. I am Russian
          I am Russian 1 November 2015 12: 33
          +4
          Quote: Own
          Probably better from the USA. But there are devastating interviews with Boroday and Zakharchenko, and these people mean a lot in the history of the DPR, not the hysterical shooters. Sorry escaped ...


          This is you about Surkovsky (Dudayev) Borodai, and about Pan Zakharchenko, who has a local "authority" uncle.
          Well then, maybe, remember about Pushilin and Kurginians. Or maybe vyser.y valtsmana and Gerashchenko.
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      2. Alexl
        Alexl 1 November 2015 14: 26
        0
        And Petrovsky ("Hmury") recalls. And Petrovsky is a real military officer from Afghanistan. Unlike the FSB officer Strelkov.
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 1 November 2015 13: 46
      +2
      Quote: Own
      Shooters started not bad, but you see not born to be a revolutionary. Ruined everything. In Donetsk, they still remember the surrender of Slavyansk.

      Wrong ... Slavyansk kept to the last ... If not for him, Donetsk and Lugansk would have taken straight away ...! He gave time to everyone who follows him ...! I think so...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 1 November 2015 14: 04
        +3
        Quote: MIKHAN
        . Slavyansk kept to the last ... If not for him, Donetsk and Lugansk would have taken

        If there was no Strelkov, there would be no New Russia. It is a fact.
  36. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 1 November 2015 11: 17
    -5
    The current Girkin is Trotsky in 1917-18, who does not give a damn about the Russian people, although he hides behind them. He had to prove himself by taking Kiev, but for what it would all turn out for us, he was not at all interested in Russia. The main thing is that he was at the top, and the fact that we would have to fight with the Ukrainians would not be his business, nor would we have to contain all of Ukraine, but for what. The mattresses hoped for the same step from our side, but failed. And now Girkin is no longer with the people, his brains have become twisted like those of Murid and M. Kalashnikov
  37. tralmaster.
    tralmaster. 1 November 2015 11: 17
    -4
    It is time for this Girkin-Strelkov to be lowered to the ground, and how that Icarus will be scorched by the sun and that’s it. Manichkm appeared. A half-soldier unfinished imagines himself a great commander.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 November 2015 11: 47
      +3
      Quote: tralmaster.
      half-soldier imagined himself an unfinished half-soldier.



      I wonder if Strelkov is a "half-soldier", then who are NATO members ?! Theirs ChVKashniki rushed to Donbas in thousands and under their leadership there were tens of thousands of dill. With tanks, helicopters, planes, Grads, etc.
      And the "half-soldier" got them off with a couple of thousand fighters, of which 80% are former miners. laughing
      1. kartalovkolya
        kartalovkolya 2 November 2015 13: 27
        0
        So, thanks to Strelkov, these PMCs came running, if he hadn’t gotten up from the Crimea, then the local guys would figure it out themselves!
  38. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 1 November 2015 11: 31
    +4
    "The party said the Komsomol must have answered there!" Kurginyanskie pads got excited - it’s expensive to see.)
    They write that the Kremlin is trying to organize a new "patriotic opposition" around Strelkov-Girkin, and for this they are promoting. Do I.I. in the dark, whether he agreed voluntarily, or was forced, unfortunately nothing good will come of it. We already had the leader of the "patriotic opposition" - General AI Lebed, as soon as he began to pose a real danger, he died right there, II. obviously the same fate awaits. It is clear that, unlike him, Kurginyan will die in his bed, choking on black caviar in bliss and warmth.
  39. Magadan
    Magadan 1 November 2015 11: 43
    +6
    Quote: w3554152
    Girkin is a project of the West to force Russia to commit aggression, to FOREVER consider our country as a rogue state and a criminal country. Girkin wants to hang aggression on Russia and thereby equate it with fascist Germany. Girkin is a pro-Western provocateur.


    Hooray! We arrived!

    Stalin, Zhukov, Rokossovsky and my grandfathers personally are "projects of the West" because they stood up against the peaceful and kind Hitlerites!
    And in general, all our Russian Heroes, starting with Nevsky - are they also "projects of the West" ?! After all, they have dragged the country into the "war"!

    You see, absolutely peaceful football fans-right-sectarian, completely peacefully and amiably burned people in Odessa, finished them off with axes under a guffaw about "the corpse of a female Colorado", but Strelkov "did not understand the humor"! I took it and began to fight against these good guys !!!

    I almost didn’t get Russia into a war with NATO itself! I almost didn’t make Russia an aggressor.
    We here paanimash "collaborated" with the West, we were shaking hands, but here the "West-Strelkov project" wanted to "incite" Russia

    I will open your eyes - Russia is an aggressor in the eyes of the West, no matter how peaceful Russia pretends to be
    1. His
      His 1 November 2015 12: 34
      -3
      Once Strelkov was my hero. I was very worried about Slavyansk, I was glad that there were people like Strelkov. And after that, as if something had fallen into place. And each took his place. Only time rules history.
      After studying materials about the Second World War, the role of Stalin and his entourage, watching what was happening in the country, I changed my initial views that have been in my head since the end of the perestroika years.
      Time and love for the motherland put everything in its place. All my ancestors always fought and died for this country, and I think I will stand for it. But Strelkov’s myth was needed in due time. Now Girkin will not be able to ride this wave.
  40. pentarhist
    pentarhist 1 November 2015 11: 43
    +4
    Igor Strelkov-
    ...
    4. "Strelkov constantly called on, or rather, provoked, the Russian authorities to send troops to Ukraine and take Kiev, threatening, otherwise, the Moscow Maidan. As you can see, there is no Maidan. But, strangely enough, the United States would also very much like it," for Putin to go to Kiev. And how do you order all this to be assessed? "

    Are you confusing me with anyone? Who "threatened" the "Moscow Maidan"? And where? Link please.

    As for the second part, I can only say that my opinion has remained unchanged - Kiev must be liberated! If, in your opinion, Russia does not need Kiev, then explain your position not only with references to some mythical (apparently communicated personally to you through diplomatic channels) "US interest." I am sure that just the United States categorically did not want and does not want the reunification of Ukraine with Russia. And so far everything is working out for them.

    5. "The Minsk agreements, from the point of view of the roundtable participants, did not give anything, but only worsened the situation. But this is a lie. Whoever says anything, but the result of the Minsk agreements is a ceasefire from the Ukrainian side."

    Tell the soldiers on the front lines about the "ceasefire". Do you have any "brave militia" among your friends who can tell you about what is happening at the front? Yes, the intensity of hostilities has noticeably decreased, but the shelling did not stop. And the decline took place only and precisely because the surrender of the LPNR is planned "peacefully". All the forces and means of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the "National Guard" are ready to continue the war and are not being diverted anywhere. And in general it sounds wild to me that an Orthodox cleric seriously believes that "peaceful surrender" to the enemy of the Fatherland and Faith is an "improvement" of the situation. Thank God that not everyone in the Church shares your opinion ...
    http://forum-novorossia.ru/index.php/topic/170-otvet-iereiu-aleksandru-shumskomu

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  41. pentarhist
    pentarhist 1 November 2015 11: 48
    +9
    Reply to Priest Alexander Shumsky-

    ... 2. "And when he acted in Novorossia, remember how many times he tried to provoke the introduction of Russian troops into these territories, arguing that if Vladimir Putin does not introduce a Russian military contingent into Novorossia, then the Ukrainian troops will completely defeat the militia, and Novorossia will collapse."

    O. Alexander! Where is Novorossiya NOW? She's not there. There are "separate areas of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions of Ukraine." There are also "self-proclaimed DPR and LPR". Novorossia is "closed as a project". And it was not the belolentochniki who announced this at the Echo of Moscow, but our "official patriots" (Borodai, for example), to whom you now have a well-deserved dishonor to belong. As for the fate of the LDNR, it is "handed over back to Ukraine" without any war. And there is nothing to collapse there - everything is already destroyed. The Russian popular uprising for reunification with Russia (or at least for secession from the Russophobic Ukraine) was suppressed from Moscow "with a stab in the back." So no offensive by the Ukrainian Armed Forces has yet been required (although the Armed Forces are still ready for it). Therefore, my "predictions" based on the postulate that "Russia does not give up its own" did not come true. We rent it "quietly" ... and almost passed it ...

    http://forum-novorossia.ru/index.php/topic/170-otvet-iereiu-aleksandru-shumskomu

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  42. Old warrior
    Old warrior 1 November 2015 12: 21
    +2
    And why does no one think that since such people say something, then this "something" is needed by someone and for something? repeat
  43. onix757
    onix757 1 November 2015 12: 25
    +6
    To the campaign on the topic of Strelkov, the Kremlin directs its entire army of patriotoliberal idiots)
  44. Sasha Belyaeva
    Sasha Belyaeva 1 November 2015 12: 28
    +3
    "Public opinion is the most depraved of prostitutes." Honore de Balzac "Shagreen leather".

    "They bow down to the power of genius and hate him, try to denigrate him for taking everything without division, but as long as he stands firmly, he is extolled - in short, idolized, kneeling down when they cannot be trampled into the mud. Corruption is everywhere, talent is rare. Therefore, venality has become a weapon of mediocrity ... "Honore de Balzac" Father Goriot ".



    God bless you, Igor Ivanovich Strelkov - Russia needs you. The oligarchs and corrupt officials will not forgive you for the arrest of their accounts in Swiss banks and will fulfill the conditions of the West: give Crimea and the Donbass to the oligarchic Ukrainian junta in exchange for lifting personal sanctions from them.
  45. vippersona
    vippersona 1 November 2015 12: 32
    0
    Strelkov is a whiner who was kicked out of the DPR at the earliest opportunity. I live in Donetsk and I see with my own eyes the processes that are happening here. None of Strelkov’s statements are related to reality. Nobody here was going to drain anything. On the contrary, all the processes of integration of New Russia with Russia are going on. Daily exercises, and bargaining pumped up equipment so that the crews weren’t enough to manage it. Universities and schools were converted to Russian standards. Even the commission was sent to find out where all the money disappears (recent arrests of LNR officials). Shooters were needed to give the militia time to grow stronger, raise the people, establish power over the territory. He failed in his task, with the surrender of Slavyansk, explaining that he wanted to save the city. Although he sentenced all those faithful to Novorossia to Slavyansk with his retreat. Imagine: a person helps the militia, brings money, provides transport, prepares food. And one fine morning, he comes to the Slavic OG and Ukrainian soldiers are already waiting for him, instead of the militia. And given how proud Slavyansk was, to become a stronghold of the new republic. And that many houses had the flags of New Russia, then we can imagine the scale of the tragedy. Little Slavyansk passed, but Krasnoarmeysk also went there, and Konstantinovka. In a word, a wonderful work, of a great commander. And all this is nonsense that he kept to the last. There in Slavyansk there was so much fuel, ammunition and weapons that it was possible to keep him completely surrounded for half a year. And he knew very well that at a critical moment the north wind would blow. But he stupidly passed everything. He took all combat-ready units to Donetsk, opened the road to Debaltsev, Krasny Luch and Gorlovka. Thanks to him, almost the whole republic is in ruins. He did not carry out a single successful operation, not a single attack, and the nonsense that he sat only with beginners and without equipment is far from reality. An 6 km convoy with armored vehicles and the soldiers that followed it (especially friends from the Caucasus) entered Donetsk for sure for the first time in a war. Therefore, do not believe the bravado on the camera and those myths that go about New Russia. If Strelkov was necessary, he would not be kicked out of here.
  46. Are
    Are 1 November 2015 12: 37
    -6
    "Strelkov said that if he wanted to, he would carry any cargo to the Crimea, without straining."
    Now it can be argued that for any cargo - any prohibited for import into the territory of the Russian Federation - you can write to Girkin as an accomplice (he transported it, told someone that he didn’t carry such a cargo).
    We must answer for the bazaar, Mr. Field Marshal Girkin! am
    And the fact that Putin does not consult with this prominent military leader is a shame, of course, but the President will survive. laughing
  47. pentarhist
    pentarhist 1 November 2015 12: 39
    +4
    ...
    8. "After all, it is well known that obsolete American ballistic missiles are significantly inferior to our modern ballistic missiles."

    Forgive who? Who knows well? You? Where from? I don’t know very well, but I’m still a former military man, a colonel in the reserve of the special services (or is this also a lie and I am a "warrant officer-reenactor", as "many brave militias write about")?
    ...
    11. "I'm not even talking about coastal naval weapons, S-300 and S-400 installations, and so on and so forth."

    Your Reverend, do you know the difference between air / missile defense and coastal defense? At least the Bastion complex was mentioned, or something ...

    12. "But the most revealing thing is that not one of the participants in the round table said a word about the fact that, in addition to the political and geostrategic reasons for our military intervention in the Syrian conflict, there is also a spiritual and moral reason - the protection of the richest Christian world in Syria from the brutalized ISIS. It was not for nothing that our Holiness Patriarch Kirill supported the military participation of Russia in Syria. "

    Therefore, they did not mention that we do not consider it necessary to focus attention on the sad fact that for His Holiness Patriarch Kirill, the defense of Syrian Christians turned out to be more worthy of blessing than the defense of Russian Christians. Not to mention the fact that (again you twist) it was clearly stated that the available forces cannot change the course of the war in any way, so there is no talk of an effective "protection" for the Christians of Syria. Who does not believe - let them listen to the statements of our diplomats and the president personally - now they are only talking about "preparing a political settlement". And only a month and a half has passed since the beginning of the operation ...

    http://forum-novorossia.ru/index.php/topic/170-otvet-iereiu-aleksandru-shumskomu
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    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 1 November 2015 13: 24
      +2
      Quote: pentarhist
      Excuse me, to whom? Who knows well? You? Where from? I don’t know very well, but I’m still a former military man, colonel of the special services reserve

      And I just had a list of foreign planes, helicopters, missiles, 1967 edition lying around, instead of the price it’s written - it’s not for sale :-)
    2. ASK505
      ASK505 21 November 2015 14: 29
      -1
      You will see more than once that the level of competence, awareness, basic literacy and general culture on the site leaves much to be desired. What is the reason? These ridiculous titles, ratings, pluses and minuses often only play off and separate people, moderators do not weed out the open illiteracy of the Russian language, rudeness and non-normative vocabulary. It should not be so.
  48. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 1 November 2015 13: 08
    10
    Attitude to the article is negative. It would be better if such an article did not see the light of day.
    Finding hidden calls is always a meanness, i.e. accusing a person of what the person did not say, but some thought and gave a certain meaning to what was said.
    States have long dreamed of putting Girkin in prison, I remind you that the Chicago court has already set out to try him for Boeing’s catastrophe.
    Regarding the overthrow of the government, there is a direct statement by Girkin on this score that he believes that Putin is the commander in chief and all orders of the commander in chief are binding.
    It is not necessary to slander.
    There is a very important factor in the life of our country. Liberal economy: The liberal mechanism of the economy was launched in the 90s with the goal of destroying industry and weakening the country, and the instrument of destruction never serves as an instrument of creation. Today, the Russian Federation is a fortress without one wall-economy, and we understand that some important political decisions are made taking into account the dependence of the economy on external factors. Any patriot of the country wants to get rid of external economic dependence. Moreover, in order to protect national interests, the country today needs a mobilization economy, a concept incompatible with liberalism. This is the crucial point: the president, respected by most of the country's residents, reaffirms his commitment to the liberal model of the economy. What this economy gives us is an acute drop in income. This is the moment followed by Putin’s criticism from those who were victims of not making certain decisions, which they counted on the basis of the logic of Ukrainian events. Such a position is not a call to overthrow, it is a call to change the economic model in the country , which does not contradict the laws of the country, but jeopardizes the interests of financial tycoons, who receive huge profits from financial transactions. Here on their side is the author of this article.
    And for those people who, almost without weapons, came to the defense of Donbass from Bandera-criminals-marauders, many of whom laid down their lives, trying to protect people from extermination, eternal memory and glory. And do not speculate on this topic now.
  49. pentarhist
    pentarhist 1 November 2015 13: 14
    +7
    ... Here the Surkovschina sat in a heap, sorry for the expression, shit. Burned part of their paid sexots. The fact is that the representative of the Party of the case was present at the seminar of Stepan Sulakshin, and I have the materials. So...
    1. Sulakshin discussed the creation of a new type of party, which should cleanse the country of pro-Western systemic-liberal and simply liberal evil spirits, without becoming in opposition to Putin. Moreover, the formation of a hypothetical party is attributed to 2020.
    2. Igor Strelkov did not declare entry into any party; he is emphasized over the party. Correspondingly, I am already a member of the Federal Council of the Party of the Cause, and I am not transferring to any other party.
    ***
    http://m-kalashnikov.livejournal.com/2476896.html#comments
  50. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 1 November 2015 13: 32
    13
    And why, is it so enraging for many that one of our citizens wants to get involved in politics? Or is it a right exclusively for members of the ruling party? Actually, is the constitution quite categorical about this. Or maybe the government shook with fear? After all, even citizen Girkin, if he wants, can gather around there’s a huge amount of far from the last representatives of the Motherland. And, the thing that clumsily expresses itself and sculpts all kinds of garbage sometimes is simply from the lack of experience ... Remember for a moment the GDP at the beginning of the reign, a gray official is kind of ... clumsy , eyes running around ... And now? ALPHA-MALE !!!
    So Strelkova ... They will learn to speak correctly, meaningfully keep silent, stand in front of the camera advantageously ... and most importantly, how to behave in front of the crowd. Although, Stalin generally tried not to go out to large crowds, and at the same time looked and was a giant.
    The most important thing is that outright scum, which will create an "aura of incense" for the overall picture, do not get attached to the wake.
    1. rubidiy
      rubidiy 1 November 2015 14: 07
      -3
      Quote: Barkhan
      And why, it so infuriates many the desire of one of our citizens to engage in politics

      well, only especially violent ones are furious. It is enough just to ignore them. As for the "desire to engage in politics," everything is simple: there are people who not only earn money in politics, but are also directly engaged in business for the good of the Motherland. This is the fundamental difference, because without the desire to act for the good of his country, any politician very soon turns into a traitor. Girkin did not manage to become a politician yet, but he became a traitor.
      I would really be glad to see the opposition - a political force acting for the good of Russia and having different views on how to achieve this good. But now we have only the ruling party, the LDPR with the Communists, who have long ceased to be a significant force, and traitors. Just corrupt traitors. All sorts of Hakamands, Bulk and other Kasyanovs. It was with them that your beloved Girkin sang a nightingale and sang in unison. For he does not care about the interests of the motherland. And he never intended to substitute a neck. He stupidly decided to earn money on politics. And of course, whoever pays dances. Here is his corrupt liberals and dancing.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 1 November 2015 14: 42
        +3
        Dear rubidiy, could you name someone, in your opinion, who could actually at the moment lead the opposition in Russia, while not spoiling its interests?
        Well, please name the vector in which direction it should lead the country.