Kremlin press service: issues of military-technical cooperation (including the creation of a Russian air base in Belarus) are discussed with the Belarusian side

A spokesman for the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, commented on the question of whether or not a Russian military airbase will be created in Belarus. Recall that a few days before the presidential elections in Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko declared that there could be no Russian air base in the country, that only Russian planes were needed for Belarus, and experienced and professional pilots “had enough of them”.


Information Agency TASS leads Dmitry Peskov's statement:
We have a rather extensive agenda (with Belarus) connected with military-technical cooperation, with interaction in the field of security and defense. In the context of allied relations, these issues will be discussed in one form or another. So far I can not say anything more concrete.


In September, Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the Ministry of Defense and the Russian Foreign Ministry to discuss the creation of a Russian aviation military base and sign an agreement after such a discussion.

The Belarusian authorities have not yet commented on the negotiation process with their Russian colleagues.

On the eve of the President of Belarus, Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko visited the 120-th separate mechanized brigade and got acquainted with the upgraded weapons. A photo of A. Lukashenko from the time of the officer service was found in the brigade’s museum. News agency reporting BelTA:

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  1. Vladimyrych 28 October 2015 13: 41 New
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    De will not agree Butska. For some reason, he is even right, and I understand him. lol
    He would have had planes, Sushka would have, but with the Iskander-E sho would have shrunk down ... Yes for free !!!
    The normal logic of Lukashenko. laughing
    1. SRC P-15 28 October 2015 13: 49 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      De disagree Butska

      Yes, where will he go! The elections have passed, now we can talk about this in a different way. It’s just that, most likely, this issue has not been finally resolved at the top.
      1. Temples 28 October 2015 14: 02 New
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        It is necessary to decide who and what is needed.
        We need a base. Its base with all the ensuing consequences.
        But Lukashenko may need airplanes, but not a fact.
        Who does the initiative come from?
        If from the videoconferencing, then it means to be a base.
        And if Lukashenko wants to buy planes, so let him buy. If there is money.
        And if there is a lot of money, then let the base be ours. Here and a lot of money will flow into the budget for renting land.
        1. _Vladislav_ 28 October 2015 14: 15 New
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          I already wrote something, but I repeat ....

          A military base (whatever it is) is an instrument of influence on the political and military life of the state in whose territory it is located. A simple example. Crimea. One “small” base and that’s it, the job is done. Crimea returned to their homeland.

          Lukashenko understands this very well. He is not ready to give up his influence. The problem is that it is not known for certain who will come to power after the Old Man.
          But such a military base could secure the interests of Russia in Belarus. With all the ensuing consequences.
          1. MIKHAN 28 October 2015 14: 28 New
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            Quote: _Vladislav_
            Lukashenko understands this very well. He is not ready to give up his influence. The problem is that it is not known for certain who will come to power after the Old Man.
            But such a military base could secure the interests of Russia in Belarus. With all the ensuing consequences.

            They wrote to a point .. Old man is trying to build an "independent" from himself, now it’s very difficult! Our military base is a guarantee of stability, all the same .. In vain it pulls!
          2. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 16: 24 New
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            Quote: _Vladislav_
            . One “small” base and that’s it, the job is done. Crimea returned to their homeland.

            Well, you turned down. Firstly, the base in Crimea was very large by any standards, and secondly, local people were for returning them.
            1. _Vladislav_ 28 October 2015 17: 52 New
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              Quote: Rusich not from Kiev
              Well, you turned down. Firstly, the base in Crimea was very large by any standards, and secondly, local people were for returning them.

              Any military base is an instrument of influence (political and military). And if there are several such bases, and if several dozen, hundreds.

              A simple example, USA. Military bases in each satellite country (some even have a couple of hundred). And now no country is independent in its foreign and domestic policies.
              1. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 19: 22 New
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                Quote: _Vladislav_
                A simple example, USA. Military bases in each satellite country (some even have a couple of hundred). And now no country is independent in its foreign and domestic policies.

                Well, there were their bases in the Philippines, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan. Now do not stand. If there is no local support. then all this is temporary.
        2. hedgehog in the fog 28 October 2015 16: 20 New
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          served as an urgent in 103 Vitebsk airborne forces, to be honest 99% unscrupulous window dressing, all the charms of the modern Belarusian army, passed from beginning to end. the only thing was plenty, it was ammunition for firing, the rest is nonsense about ammunition and about a hawk in the dining room, RPG 18 hah, outdated trash, they’ve never been allowed to shoot for the whole term, 1.5 years a tag layout ... you want minus, only the truth is it although each one has his own truth,
          1. Conductor 28 October 2015 17: 09 New
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            You’re right a hedgehog, window dressing and nothing more than window dressing. It is characteristic of all spheres of life of Belarusians
          2. TSOOBER 28 October 2015 21: 05 New
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            Hello, Countryman Belarus! Oh, if only window dressing, when I was in service (military unit 1235), after some events (an automatic officer lost ...), we disarmed the entire RPZ (reserve frontier guard), handed over all the weapons "The hell’s question is such a RPG? But then they didn’t lose their weapons! The combat readiness is zero, the authorities are pretty! And they didn’t even give an RPG to the hands! And this is the reserve of the first stage! Window dressing is everywhere! And the army is no exception!"
      2. Sober 28 October 2015 14: 55 New
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        Russia and Belarus are a single union state. Base to be.
      3. Conductor 28 October 2015 15: 06 New
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        They would have decided for sure yes / no. Or is the decision already made and is getting ready to be voiced? What nobody knows in Luka’s mind. Most likely there will be no base. Probably, it’s for the better, because there are many more minuses than pluses (in the wake of the ever-growing crisis), because the base will simply turn into a lever of pressure
        1. WERSTA. 28 October 2015 19: 00 New
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          Luke is our enemy! This is for sure! Not the people of Belarus, but he! He will betray Russia if he pays the West more than he has the benefit of contacts with Russia. He is a collective farmer!
    2. Finches 28 October 2015 13: 53 New
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      Literally on the eve of the joint exercises with Belarus, one of the top generals of the Western Military District shared his impressions of his trip to the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, and I was present at the same time! So, Comrade General was delighted with the internal organization and order that he saw there. For the same, you can say thanks to Father But! Especially when compared with the neighboring under-state with its APU (which, incidentally, thank God!).
      1. MIKHAN 28 October 2015 13: 59 New
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        Old Man, in my opinion, forgot how his West called the last dictator of Europe and prepared to overthrow him? He thinks .. Oh look Old Man (there are many examples, such "thinkers") You need to hurry! hi
        1. Sober 28 October 2015 14: 58 New
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          Yes Old Man is a secret agent of the Kremlin, he is simply making a fool of himself out of the public.
          1. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 16: 26 New
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            Quote: Sober
            Yes Old Man is a secret agent of the Kremlin, he is simply making a fool of himself out of the public.

            Naturally. Come on, minus love the words of the authorities to take for the truth.
        2. Conductor 28 October 2015 16: 49 New
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          Quote: MIKHAN
          Old Man, in my opinion, forgot how his West called the last dictator of Europe and prepared to overthrow him? He thinks .. Oh look Old Man (there are many examples, such "thinkers") You need to hurry! hi

          so do you think something has changed? He was and remains to them. Who and how he calls him does not change anything. And by the way, who and when was going to "overthrow" him, and most importantly, how? Share info ...
          1. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 19: 20 New
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            Quote: Explorer
            And by the way, who and when was going to "overthrow" him, and most importantly, how? Share info ...

            Well, for the last election for example. Naturally with the help of maidan, though Luke, like Putin, crushed him a little.
            1. hedgehog in the fog 28 October 2015 22: 21 New
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              maybe I’ll surprise you a little, you probably won’t even believe it, but the last election, there really was a popular march, there were no balaclava or young people with bats, ordinary people with children went to their parents, students were teachers, people came out so that the authorities would hear them, but 2 things, 1 opposition didn’t know what to do, it was a shock, because as it turned out the grandmother could work out with a small amount, 2 bows collapsed and the massacre started (I know from the army all the most stupid, worthless went into riot police), people were just beaten, yes Yes, I was there too (not in the riot police, but in the convoy of protesters), it’s very cool to beat students and girls with a club in a 30kg armor and a helmet, and now the question for Lukashenka’s love, do you think, would also be a brave waving with sticks that would go out of their minds if it would be like in Ukraine, but we don’t have a golden eagle ...
              1. prosto_rgb 29 October 2015 02: 00 New
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                Quote: hedgehog in the fog
                maybe I’ll surprise you a little, you probably won’t even believe it, but the last elections, there really was a popular march, there was neither a balaclava nor thugs with bats

                This does not negate the fact that there were personnel and provocateurs specially trained for the Maidan revolutions.
                Quote: hedgehog in the fog
                , ordinary people with children and parents were walking, students were teachers, people came out so that the authorities would hear them

                But the trained provocateurs, as always, climbed to storm the state institution, for which they received everything ...
                Thanks to the apposition leaders for this.
                1. hedgehog in the fog 29 October 2015 11: 21 New
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                  whatever it was. people came out to show their categorical no, Lukashenka and to what he is leading the country, they did not go for Europe, but for the right not to be cattle without wills, about which Luka wipes his legs, about who smashed the windows, they didn’t detain a single one, and then the same young men, pumped up in tracksuits, packed up silent protests, so there’s another question, the opposition or the KGB for a brutal crackdown. but the most important thing is that people have no one else to believe, neither the false, cowardly opposition, constantly licking America’s backside, nor the Lukashenko’s nits, who rule the country as a large zone, and there is no light ahead or behind, nowhere we look askance at Russia and think everything , everyone is in secret (because no one will say it out loud) and we went to hell at 91 ??? ...
                  1. prosto_rgb 30 October 2015 01: 03 New
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                    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
                    whatever it was. people came out to show their categorical no, Lukashenka and to what he is leading the country, they did not go for Europe, but for the right not to be cattle without wills, about which Luka wipes his legs, about who smashed the windows, they didn’t detain a single one, and then the same young men, pumped up in tracksuits, packed up silent protests, so there’s another question, the opposition or the KGB for a brutal crackdown. but the most important thing is that people have no one else to believe, neither the false, cowardly opposition, constantly licking America’s backside, nor the Lukashenko’s nits, who rule the country as a large zone, and there is no light ahead or behind, nowhere we look askance at Russia and think everything , everyone is in secret (because no one will say it out loud) and we went to hell at 91 ??? ...

                    I completely agree. except shop windows.
          2. prosto_rgb 29 October 2015 01: 53 New
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            Quote: Explorer
            And by the way, who and when was going to "overthrow" him, and most importantly, how? Share info ...

            The same as Milosevic. And the same pens.
            I would write more, but no one to evaluate ...
            Therefore, it is better to study the policies around Yugoslavia in 1997-2001 yourself.
      2. prosto_rgb 29 October 2015 01: 46 New
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        Quote: Finches
        For the same, you can say, thank you, But father!

        It is impossible. Surprisingly.
        His policy in relation to the army led to directly opposite results. (About the show above have already been unsubscribed)
        And what your comrade saw is the result of high-quality everyday work of the officer corps in the field.
        Even 3 years ago, he openly (that is, the plot was shown on television by the republican media) sent “3 letters” to those who suggested adopting drones into service in order to improve monitoring of the situation at the border.
        Yes, you can see for yourself, even on this trip you can see his attitude to the introduction of modern simulators in the training process of training and education of military personnel.
        And those to whom
        can say thank you
        fortunately remain unknown, otherwise zealous commanders would have long ago trampled them from the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus.
    3. vovanpain 28 October 2015 13: 54 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      De will not agree Butska. For some reason, he is even right, and I understand him. lol
      He would have had planes, Sushka would have, but with the Iskander-E sho would have shrunk down ... Yes for free !!!
      The normal logic of Lukashenko. laughing

      And there would have been more oil and gas, and a little money would have been thrown.
    4. avt
      avt 28 October 2015 14: 23 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      He would have had planes, Sushki would have, but with Iskander-E sho would have shrunk down.

      And a nuclear case, well, at least to vilify.
      1. Conductor 28 October 2015 16: 52 New
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        Quote: avt
        Quote: Vladimir
        He would have had planes, Sushki would have, but with Iskander-E sho would have shrunk down.

        And a nuclear case, well, at least to vilify.

        and he was just there, but was given in exchange for immunity. Now a bunch of abandoned mines across Belarus
    5. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 16: 22 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      De will not agree Butska.

      And who will ask him. It was necessary at the time to strengthen the sky with our planes so threw and no one said anything. Seichas, on the other hand, is just a political chatter for local patriots and the West, and with the tacit permission of the Kremlin.
  2. AdekvatNICK 28 October 2015 13: 41 New
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    we surround ourselves with bases. in adjacent territories.
    1. venaya 28 October 2015 13: 53 New
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      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      we surround ourselves with bases. in adjacent territories.

      We have already been surrounded by bases. What we are doing is just a countermeasure. Take your bases away from us, and we don’t need to create new "base". I hope this is clear and comes to them. It is important that we do not spend unnecessarily large funds, but, on the contrary, force our opponents to shell out.
      1. armata37 28 October 2015 15: 07 New
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        Well, yes, that would be to know the economic effect (in the sense of spending the West), which had, takes place after the launch of the "Caliber". After all, 100% rustle done not only at the political, let’s say, level.
  3. marlin1203 28 October 2015 13: 42 New
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    Alexander Lukashenko said that there can be no Russian air base in the country, that Belarus needs only Russian airplanes, and experienced and professional pilots “have enough of their own”.
    Experienced pilots without planes ... how is it? belay
    1. Babr 28 October 2015 13: 50 New
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      Quote: marlin1203
      Experienced pilots without planes ... how is it?

      And we have them unmeasured. Nowhere to go. Just dad takes care of his country to his people. He wants to have their own machine gunners, and not carriers of cartridges.
    2. 0255 28 October 2015 13: 51 New
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      Quote: marlin1203
      Experienced pilots without planes ... how is it? belay

      It is in words.
    3. avt
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      Quote: marlin1203
      Experienced pilots without planes ... how is it?

      We go flying, well, like in our 90s.
    4. prosto_rgb 29 October 2015 02: 07 New
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      Quote: marlin1203
      Experienced pilots without planes ... how is it? belay

      Su 27 is still there, but you can calculate how old they are.
      And for training flights, the Yak-130 was purchased, there was an article about this on the same site.
      Here, in order not to be left without airplanes at all, he speaks of the need for new airplanes.
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    1. 75 hammer 28 October 2015 13: 52 New
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      What do you write, during the Second World War in Belarus there were the largest number of partisans! And the loss among the population was more than 50%! Learn history, otherwise you will be in the lead ...!
      1. Now we are free 28 October 2015 14: 05 New
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        Still, all historical documents show that Belarusians were leaders in betrayal during the war years ...


        ??? Oleg, did you confuse Belarus with Geroslava?
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      What do you write, during the Second World War in Belarus there were the largest number of partisans! And the loss among the population was more than 50%! Learn history, otherwise you will be in the lead ...!
    3. 0255 28 October 2015 13: 52 New
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      Quote: Ugra
      Still, all historical documents show that Belarusians were leaders in betrayal during the war years ...

      What kind of documents? Ask how many Germans the Belarusian partisans sent to the other world.
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        avt 28 October 2015 14: 27 New
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        Quote: 0255
        What kind of documents?

        Igor Chubais’s campaign with Gavrila Popov was read, and different resunoids, here fool .
    4. combat66 28 October 2015 14: 09 New
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      Here for such pearls you need to beat not on the passport, but on the face!
      Who are you providing the service to ?! The people from which every fourth was lost in the Second World War, destroyed to the founding of the city, or the legendary operations in Belarus, in which this people ..... Yes, what to say ... Your language is without bones.
      At one time, back in the late 80s, when the film “Go and See” was released, he only partially described the suffering and “betrayal” of Belarusians in art form ... Check out this monster!
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        Quote: combat66
        . monster!

        No words. You can't say better.
        Not a fan of putting minus, minus, but could not resist here.
      2. vovanpain 28 October 2015 14: 41 New
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        Quote: combat66
        At one time, back in the late 80s, when the film “Go and See” was released, he in an artistic form only partially described the suffering and “betrayal” of Belarusians ...

        I still can’t watch it, although I’m playing with my grandchildren myself, and then I remember watching with my wife in the cinema and the whole audience was crying, it’s scary what they forget.
        1. Sober 28 October 2015 15: 08 New
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          I advise you to see a little-known masterpiece of Belarusian cinema "Ivan Makarovich" !!!
      3. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 16: 28 New
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        Quote: combat66
        Here for such pearls you need to beat not on the passport, but on the face!

        I would give the same. But where can you find this sofa town.
      4. WERSTA. 28 October 2015 19: 10 New
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        We often confuse the merits of the people in the Second World War with the actions of the current leader of Belarus! Lukashenko will betray us as soon as possible. If the West gives him “Free” tomorrow, he will leave us. Please remember that he suggested that Ukraine take us by the throat by blocking the gas pipelines back in the 90s. He is an absolute political cynic! Do not flatter yourself! He is our opponent of poverty. Beggars are the most dangerous if organized. The 1917 revolution made that clear.
        1. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 19: 18 New
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          Quote: WERSTA.
          Lukashenko will betray us as soon as possible. If the West gives him Volnaya tomorrow, he will leave us. Please remember that it was he who suggested Ukraine take us by the throat by blocking the gas pipelines back in the 90s. He is an absolute political cynic!

          You have a short memory. Luke had the opportunity to betray us as ho.khly in the 90s, but only he held a referendum and began to build a union. It doesn’t matter what thoughts he had and it doesn’t matter that they haven’t built a legal union. De facto, he built Belarus into the RF system.
    5. vovanpain 28 October 2015 14: 26 New
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      Quote: Ugra
      But father is trying to sit on two chairs. No, sweetheart, it won’t work out. Either we stand shoulder to shoulder in case of war, or surrender to Westerners without a fight. Nevertheless, all historical documents show that Belarusians were leaders in betrayal during the war ...

      I completely agree with you at the expense of two chairs, all the more so as Europe has already thrown a carrot, having lifted sanctions for four months and promised to see what would be removed altogether, but Belarusians were not traitors, every fourth inhabitant of Belarusians died during the occupation and the whole republic lay in ruins, and how much they sent the Nazis to the next world to a fig and more.
    6. Sober 28 October 2015 15: 04 New
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      ETOGES, to what madness to agree! Belarus was the first to take the blow. How many civilians destroyed for their help! DO NOT dare to talk about what you do not know!
  5. Air Force captain 28 October 2015 13: 49 New
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    if you don’t want to, we’ll make .... you don’t know how to teach ... soldier
  6. roskot 28 October 2015 13: 52 New
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    It can be seen in his soul. In which case, into the forest and partisan.
  7. remy 28 October 2015 14: 01 New
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    doesn’t want a base and, accordingly, a "satellite": infrastructure, jobs, taxes, rents, barter in the form of the latest weapons.
    DO NOT!
    1. Cat man null 28 October 2015 14: 37 New
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      does not want a base and, accordingly, a "satellite":

      .. a military contingent that does not obey him .. for example. With all the consequences that ensue.

      And so, IMHO - the base will still be. Just now there is a usual trade. For more favorable conditions wink
      1. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 16: 31 New
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        Quote: Cat Man Null
        . military contingent that does not obey him .. for example. With all the consequences that ensue.

        The consequences are only positive.
  8. Mihalich17 28 October 2015 14: 05 New
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    If for our common security creation of this Base is required, then it "will be yesterday" !!!
  9. vovan089 28 October 2015 14: 12 New
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    The famous 120th Infantry Detachment BWO is still alive, then it was briefly transformed into 120 KLA (separate army corps) to act as an operational-maneuverable group in offensive operations of the front. On the basis of the division, various organizational and technical experiments were conducted as part of studies to increase the combat potential of the formations and ground forces of the USSR.
  10. pasha88tt 28 October 2015 14: 19 New
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    The base is needed, if not cool, for the common security of both states. They understood then, they understand now. Matter of time only)
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 16: 34 New
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      Here we are talking among the people that Asians do not really know how to think. But look at these numbers and understand that ordinary people knew in advance that it would be better than under the USSR they would not live exactly 100 years close.
  11. combat66 28 October 2015 14: 21 New
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    The issues with the database are fully resolved. Moreover, despite the screams of a handful of Svidomo. ordinary people will also welcome the presence of a Russian base. No matter what it is called, perhaps the word "base" is veiled. But the presence of powerful power will be welcome.
    This is money and work and .... in short, everything will be fine! drinks
    1. avt
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      Quote: combat66
      The issues with the database are fully resolved.

      Solvable then they solvable, but who exactly will decide then ??? Whatever one may say, the political decision, the political leadership began to be and it will be decided by the political leadership, and it, well, the Belarusian one specifically said just like Borodach - ,, I'm not in guys guys! "
      Quote: Starik72
      Here you got this base

      We in the current situation are very, especially with the possibility of placing the Su-30/34, but not fate request I hope they compensate in part due to the development of infrastructure in the Smolensk, Pskov and Kaliningrad regions.
      Quote: Starik72
      . But you don’t remember that Belarus and Russia agreed to create a unified air defense network by 2018.

      It's all like a single currency - a chicken in a nest an egg in a ... chicken, to be honest, already tired of writing on this topic.
      1. combat66 28 October 2015 17: 02 New
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        Regarding "... not in Coogs ...", this is our normal state laughing
        Flew where the thread ... and then the "boyars" zapadlo people in the form of decrees presented different. Well, at lackeys immediately forelocks stand on end and begin to murmur!
        Now, if they grumble a lot and it can come to a “ploshchcha”, then it’s “not in the cougss”, but if the people did it, they did it, well then in the “kugs”.
        Convenient, Mlyn .... wassat
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          +100500! For sure!
    2. Victor jnnjdfy 28 October 2015 15: 39 New
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      I agree. Near the house Ross. There was an air base there (Su-24M and Su-24MR) - there was life. They disbanded the base (apparently Old Man decided to sell the planes, while they can still somehow fly) - the melancholy is green ...
      We will not recall the past, but look at our present. Alas, Belarus is trying, wherever possible, from Russia to fuck something for free, believing that it should be so. Ie: "You give me, but I do not owe you anything!" The Russians begin to take shape precisely this perception of what is happening. The Russians do not like it. Probably shouldn't like it?
      Therefore, Belarus will try to bargain for Russia unrealistic preferences for Russia. Although their aircraft are withdrawn from service and sold to third countries ...
      Is a base necessary in terms of protecting Belarus and Russia? Yes, I need it. If Belarus believes that it has no one to defend itself with, then why does it need the Army at all? Alone, the Belarusian Army is not a serious force.
      I’m just afraid that the constant wagging of the Belarusian authorities may just bother the Russian authorities. And the Kremlin will decide that it is better not to mess with such an ally on the issue of creating an air base.
  12. Moonsund 28 October 2015 14: 22 New
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    Still, all historical documents show that Belarusians were leaders in betrayal during the war years ...


    Has your head been blown away? What, think out documents ???? It is estimated that in August 1941 there were about 231 partisan detachments. 1,5 million people fought in partisan units. The leaders of the Belarusian partisan detachment "Red October" - commander Fedor Pavlovsky and commissar Tikhon Bumazhkov - on August 6, 1941, the first of the partisans were awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union.
  13. Starik72 28 October 2015 14: 23 New
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    Here you have been given this base. But you don’t remember that Belarus and Russia agreed to create a single air defense network by 2018. But we Belarusians are the first on the Western frontier of the Union states. And for some, cut yourself on the nose, BELARUSIANS were neither when nor traitors, nor when WILL NOT !!!
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev 28 October 2015 16: 37 New
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      Don’t boil it like that. People want to discuss wassat If the base is needed then it will be. Seichas in her acute need is not visible.
  14. WERSTA. 28 October 2015 18: 52 New
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    Old Man does not understand that after 3 years he will be WHO! For the cunning w ... poo, there is x .... with a screw! Any dodgy ends in defeat,
  15. By001261 28 October 2015 20: 51 New
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    Calm, there will be a base and very soon, you will see.