Ambassadors of the USA and the Russian Federation called in the carpet in Ankara, who were told that helping the Kurds is a taboo

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The Turkish Foreign Ministry caused the American and Russian ambassadors "on the carpet". The purpose of the “challenge” was to “tell” the heads of diplomatic missions about the inadmissibility of any assistance to Kurdish forces. Reports about it RIA News.

Ambassadors of the USA and the Russian Federation called in the carpet in Ankara, who were told that helping the Kurds is a taboo


According to the head of the Turkish government, Ahmed Davutoglu, Turkey will not allow arming the Kurdish Democratic Union. At the same time, Ankara refers to materials published recently by human rights advocates from Amnesty International, who announced that the Kurds in Syria were committing "crimes no different from the military," citing allegedly burning the Kurdish formations of the houses of those suspected of ISIL loyalty. It is strange that Ankara refers to this report of the organization, although Amnesty International there are plenty of reports on the “undemocratic” actions of the Turkish authorities themselves ...

Ahmet Davutoglu (material translation Hurriyett):
No one can assure us that weaponwhich our allies will supply to the so-called Kurdish Democratic Union will not fall into the hands of the militants of the Kurdistan Workers' Party. In the assistance they provide to the DPT, Ankara sees steps aimed against Turkey. We will destroy such weapons, because they can get into Turkey and threaten the lives and health of our citizens. If assistance is provided to the Kurdish forces, then we will respond in Iraq and Syria.


The response is the weapon of ISIS and al-Nusra, against which the Kurdish formations in Iraq and Syria continue to actively fight? ..

The Russian and American ambassadors to the Turkish Foreign Ministry were handed over notes that they would pass on to Moscow and Washington, respectively.
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  1. +47
    15 October 2015 06: 56
    Ankara stated that ISIS can be helped, and Kurds cannot be helped.
    1. +39
      15 October 2015 07: 02
      That’s the direct state that can dictate the conditions of both Russia and the United States at the same time. Despite the fact that they have a mess inside and terrorism. Well, the US understands what is needed from the Turks there, they all use gaskets, but Russia has long been proposing to solve everything wisely. They will continue to flirt with igil - it will only get worse.
      They handed the note, it would be better if they turned on the brains ...
      1. +19
        15 October 2015 07: 14
        With their brains they’re really, really bad ......
        1. +4
          15 October 2015 09: 06
          They need to run to the pharmacy for pills for diarrhea, and they called the ambassadors of the United States and Russia. These definitely won't last long. sad
        2. +6
          15 October 2015 10: 32

          The Russian and American ambassadors to the Turkish Foreign Ministry were handed over notes that they would pass on to Moscow and Washington, respectively.
          The Turks have beguiled the times now XXI, not the XV century and they can not demand anything from the great powers. The Erdogan government completely blows away from megalomania. And Erdogan imagines himself Selim Yavuz.
      2. +9
        15 October 2015 07: 29
        Did we at least wipe our feet when we entered the "carpet"? In the mosque and just on the prayer wax rug, it is necessary to take off your shoes, but how did it go with the violation of etiquette?
        On the other hand, Japan has already drained half of the taiga on paper with protests in the "northern territories", and nothing, everything survived.
        1. +14
          15 October 2015 07: 41
          Kurds are not allowed and Armenians are not allowed, otherwise they will go to conquer their Ararat.
      3. +8
        15 October 2015 07: 58
        If arms assistance is provided to Kurdish formations, then we will go for retaliatory measures in Iraq and Syria.

        What kind of response measures ??? We need to take retaliatory measures for the help of the Turks to the Islamic State, they are also the hypocrites ...., pin.dosovsky students! Do not like to fight with armed Kurds ... ???
      4. +11
        15 October 2015 08: 14
        Quote: USSR 1971
        from directly that state that can dictate the conditions of both Russia and the United States at the same time.

        Otherwise, the Turks will wind up for themselves ... TSA, block the Turkish stream project, refuse to accept tourists, and stop selling fruit)
        Despite the fact that they have a mess inside and terrorism.

        Only IS is not enough for complete happiness.
        1. +8
          15 October 2015 10: 07
          Quote: volot-voin
          Only IS is not enough for complete happiness.

          Erdogan's party - the Turkish branch of the Muslim Brotherhood (brotherhood of death), alqaida, al-nusra, ISIS - are derivatives or incarnations of the Muslim brothers (in fact, American PMCs made of mercenaries from all countries, religious extremism is a smoke screen and a recruiting tool). The Muslim Brothers were created by the CIA and MOSAD back in the middle of the last century. So Erdogan protects ISIS by definition - for "brothers". In general, the Turks are playing a deadly game (for themselves) because they have spoiled relations with all their neighbors - the Armenians, Kurds, Syrians, Greeks and, to add, Russia. If it goes on like this, then such a state may simply disappear from the map if the Turks finally lose their shores.
      5. +1
        15 October 2015 12: 00
        Kurds will give them a demobilization chord, and the great powers will blink at this time. So that next time they do not confuse.
      6. 0
        15 October 2015 23: 46
        It turns out that the Turks themselves blew up at a demonstration in Ankara?
    2. +10
      15 October 2015 07: 07
      in the photo Galustyan ??? belay
      1. +4
        15 October 2015 07: 14
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        in the photo Galustyan ???

        In the photo - Yatsenyuk in makeup.
    3. +6
      15 October 2015 07: 14
      .... late ... too late ... it is unfortunate but the destroyed Iraq and Syria contributed .... the movement of the Kurds to independence. Turkey is waiting in line .... Maidan is inevitable .... bully
    4. +9
      15 October 2015 07: 59
      In Turkey, the issue with the Kurds is the most difficult and has no solution to date! Kurds live compactly in 4 countries of the region: Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. One of the most ancient peoples of the Middle East! They began to stir up independence for the Ottomans in the middle of the 19th century! Today, the enclave in Iraq is the semi-state of the Kurds and they hope that it will become the basis of the future country of Kurdistan, but this is unacceptable for Iraq and for Turkey, not for Iran, but Syria itself would have survived now! The ball is awful! But what is remarkable, at the beginning of the 20s of the last century they had a hand in this ball, who would you think? Absolutely true, the British! They supported the national the movement of the Kurds then bombed them!
      Turks will not tolerate the intervention of third countries, therefore, it is now very important for diplomats to find a compromise, and the Russian diplomatic school has always been famous for its balanced approach!
      1. 0
        15 October 2015 10: 18
        Yeah ... The situation is awful. Sheet music one by one. Apologize again?
    5. 0
      15 October 2015 08: 16
      What are you doing? Repeat five times?

      To whom it is said: STAND! HANDS AT SEAM!
      1. +5
        15 October 2015 08: 33
        Here is another "great power" drew, the laurels of the great Balts, ukrov and others haunt. Maybe we should remind them about Suvorov, Ushakov and strike one more blow from the Caspian Sea on ISIS, so that they get better at it.
        1. +1
          15 October 2015 10: 26
          Quote: Hiking
          inflict another blow from the Caspian Sea to ISIS, so that it comes to them better.

          To get better, it’s better to change the trajectory of the missiles: through Istanbul and Ankara, at an extremely low altitude ... laughing
        2. 0
          15 October 2015 10: 53
          .... they are from hopelessness .... winked
    6. +4
      15 October 2015 08: 36
      Quote: avvg
      Ankara stated that ISIS can be helped, and Kurds cannot be helped.

      Do not yell, but remember how to cut the ARMY !!! Bayonets stupidly. The Kurds are strong and we must deal with this ...... Let the Chechen campaign be remembered! It is necessary to learn from the mistakes of others !!! And remember your own. Warriors, they are warriors in Africa !!! It is just a fact! And the Notes ... they are good on pütter
      1. +4
        15 October 2015 08: 43
        Quote: meriem1
        Quote: avvg
        Ankara stated that ISIS can be helped, and Kurds cannot be helped.

        Do not yell, but remember how to cut the ARMY !!! Bayonets stupidly. The Kurds are strong and we must deal with this ...... Let the Chechen campaign be remembered! It is necessary to learn from the mistakes of others !!! And remember your own. Warriors, they are warriors in Africa !!! It is just a fact! And the Notes ... they are good on pütter

        Such Kurds actively participated in the massacre of Armenians, such things.
        1. 0
          15 October 2015 09: 00
          no need to tell this, embarrass the excess info of local geopolitics
          1. +1
            15 October 2015 12: 23
            Quote: traveler
            no need to tell this, embarrass the excess info of local geopolitics

            Do you like "poking"? They don't really bother with the Israelis here: what to expect from a nation that sincerely considers itself "the chosen people"?
            But you, in this case, remind Americans, trying with all their might to "add fuel to the fire" on both sides of any conflict. MINUS. hi
            1. +3
              15 October 2015 13: 44
              What conflict did I pour oil into in the Armenian-Kurdish conflict? so it’s kind of not.
              your minuses and pluses, comrade Marshal, you can even a ballpoint pen on the monitor, I do not care, I do not bother with a virtual military career.
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    7. +5
      15 October 2015 08: 43
      It's about the Kurds in Turkey ???!
      No. Then - the forest, field and further.

      Who do the Turks think they are? am
    8. +3
      15 October 2015 09: 33
      "Who is talking about what, and the Turks about the Kurds" laughing
    9. +2
      15 October 2015 10: 24
      The Turkish government is PR before the elections, pretending to be something significant.
    10. +1
      15 October 2015 10: 30
      They did it all the time, tricks.
    11. +1
      15 October 2015 11: 06
      avvg
      Ankara stated that ISIS can be helped, and Kurds cannot be helped.

      It’s time to call TURKEY’s top officials to MOSCOW ON THE CARPET TO REPORT THAT HELPING ISIS IS TABULOUS !!! Give a note and inform that we will not allow ISIS weapons and if terrorists continue to be assisted, we will take appropriate measures ... TO TURKEY! For example, we will close tourist trips (minus 10-12% of state revenues of GDP), we will shut off gas faucet (minus stop up to 30% of industrial enterprises and up to 45% of heating of residential buildings) ....
      1. +1
        15 October 2015 11: 21
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        For example - we will close our trips

        And arm the Kurds.
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    13. +3
      15 October 2015 11: 11
      Quote: avvg
      ISIS can be helped, but Kurds cannot be helped

      This is a clear demonstration by the Turks, where the ears grow from the donkey and why ISIS is still not destroyed by the Amer bombing. It looks like ISIS is bombing with pillows, mattresses and bags with bank cards to purchase right-hand drive cars. A left-hand traffic is common in the UK, Australia and several other countries, one way or another having relations with the UK. Highlighted in blue
      1. -2
        15 October 2015 12: 39
        Quote: Hedgehog
        In Great Britain,

        In England, long ago switched to the right-hand traffic.
  2. +6
    15 October 2015 06: 57
    At the Janissaries, the tower was completely destroyed! What are they trying to achieve ?! I would still understand that if only the ambassador of the Russian Federation, we wouldn’t get used to it. But so would the US ambassador ...! belay
    1. +11
      15 October 2015 07: 01
      The response is the weapon of ISIS and al-Nusra, against which the Kurdish formations in Iraq and Syria continue to actively fight? ..

      Firstly, ISIS already feels good on the border with Turkey. Even more, a visa-free regime and comprehensive assistance.
      Well, and secondly, yes, in a bath in Turkey and Erdogan himself, nicknamed the Turkish butcher.
      1. +7
        15 October 2015 07: 17
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, and secondly, yes, in the bathhouse of Turkey and Erdogan himself

        Sanya, but if you remember that only our (!) Tourists are now about 2 "lemons" people, they brought money to Turkey, then there is such a thought that ours sponsor all kinds of "byaka" ... what
        1. +4
          15 October 2015 07: 21
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Sanya, but if you remember that only our (!) Tourists are now about 2 "lemons" people, money was brought to Turkey, then there is such a thought that ours sponsor any kind of "byaka" ... what

          I bought Windows or office - sponsored by the United States. STR for every comp !!! smile
          1. +2
            15 October 2015 07: 26
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            I bought Windows or office - sponsored by the United States. STR for every comp !!!

            in the store now you can buy little without "sponsoring" different "partners" there ...
            1. +1
              15 October 2015 07: 38
              Zadolbali Google and 10,2 new spy.
            2. 0
              15 October 2015 07: 48
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              in the store now you can buy little without "sponsoring" different "partners" there ...

              And Altlinux? I downloaded it the other day, now I am getting to know him, before that I put several "Ubuntu" in any way I could not configure the network, they do not see my ancient network equipment.
            3. +1
              15 October 2015 08: 03
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              in the store now you can buy little without "sponsoring" different "partners" there ...

              But the Americans have such a thing - buy local, bay local in their way.
              And then, I’m talking about Windows and the self-knowing office, I say.
          2. PN
            +4
            15 October 2015 08: 01
            Therefore, everyone downloads from torrents lol
            1. 0
              15 October 2015 08: 05
              Quote: PN
              Therefore, everyone downloads from torrents lol

              So we got hooked on bourgeois software from pirates.
              1. BYV
                +8
                15 October 2015 08: 23
                In an undeclared cold war, a pirate is not a pirate at all. This is a trophy ...
    2. 0
      15 October 2015 07: 03
      Quote: Decathlon
      What are they achieving ?!

      Probably want to revive the Ottoman Empire. recourse winked And they’ll get on Russian gas.
    3. +1
      15 October 2015 07: 19
      Quote: Decathlon
      At the Janissaries, the tower was completely destroyed!

      Who just did not tear? Judging by the documents adopted by the UN, the whole world has set off and is vigorously striding to the tune of the Satanists.
  3. +5
    15 October 2015 06: 57
    The Turks began to get nervous and twitch. So everything goes according to plan.
    1. -1
      15 October 2015 10: 02
      The Turk can be understood. They are afraid of the color revolution at home. Therefore, they were worried. And in view of Erdogan’s sympathy for Russia, the concern is well-founded.
      I think we are well aware of this and it is beneficial for Russia to keep the situation in Turkey stable.
  4. +5
    15 October 2015 06: 57
    You would think that the American ambassador there was threatened with a finger)))
    1. +1
      15 October 2015 07: 16
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      You would think that they threatened the American ambassador with a finger

      Tufta, the staff ambassador himself wrote this note (composed?).
      1. +1
        15 October 2015 07: 55
        Quote: EvgNik
        Ufa, the State Ambassador himself wrote this note (composed?).

        Well, yes, but I was present there to control, so God forbid the Turks did not miss anything.
  5. +6
    15 October 2015 06: 58
    then we will retaliate in Iraq and Syria .......... Do not tell us what to do and we will not say where you need to go.
  6. +3
    15 October 2015 07: 06
    All this Caudla, who ordered Assad's ISIS, decided for themselves: to destroy Syria as a state, to divide resources and land. The "customers" nervously cover the "killer", not thinking that the client is already out of control and has his own goals. angry fool am
  7. +1
    15 October 2015 07: 06
    The Turks will finish badly. Sooner or later, world powers will start supporting the Kurds' aspirations to create their own state. Then the inevitable kirdyk will come to the main NATO pug in the region - "Great Turan". In fact, over the past decades, Turkey has not been of any allied benefit to Russia. She is for Hitler, then for the Americans.
  8. +2
    15 October 2015 07: 07
    Ay, we are kind of ambassadors, we had to take Constantinople in due time. The Middle East is forever. Viper.
  9. +4
    15 October 2015 07: 07
    Turkey will not allow weapons of the Kurdish Democratic Union


    And how is she going to do it? Have the descendants of the Ottomans have forgotten how they had "problems from a neighbor from the north" in the 18-19 centuries? Or maybe they still decided not to buy gas or they don't need the nuclear power plant? Or maybe "Russo-Turisto" will be banned from letting in?

    In my opinion, you must first think before stupidly shaking the air.
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 09: 06
      as? Kurds will be bombed, everything is clear.
  10. +1
    15 October 2015 07: 08
    Turks have a headache, Kurds, and vice versa. But the Russian Federation does not seem to throw parcels from parachutes to anyone. In general, let them be silent, otherwise we will remember the Armenians. winked
  11. +7
    15 October 2015 07: 10
    Well, they called and called ... And Russia needs to restore order in Syria and without the Kurds I think it will be very difficult and there is already an agreement on this issue.
  12. +1
    15 October 2015 07: 14
    caused “on the carpet” of the American and Russian ambassadors

    Apparently, Erdogan played into the revival of the Ottoman Empire to such an extent that he decided to dictate conditions not only to Russia, but also to his ally, the United States. The fact that Erdogan's tower was "demolished" is confirmed by the Turks themselves, who are not so radically nationalistic. Today it was reported that in Turkey it is forbidden (before criminal punishment) to mention terrorist acts in the media, some sites on the Internet are blocked, etc. It seems that Erdogan can go very far to prove his "rightness".
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 09: 09
      you already decide whether he is an Ottomanist or a nationalist, in Turkey it’s like different things.
      1. +1
        15 October 2015 09: 42
        First, I did not use the word "Ottoman". Secondly, don't Turkish nationalists dream of the revival of the Ottoman Empire? So what's the difference?
        Thirdly, I’m not going to decide on something in Turkey. I am more worried about Russian national security.
        Fourthly, it is difficult to talk with an interlocutor who does not have a name or place of residence.
        1. 0
          15 October 2015 14: 00
          Firstly, you wrote this:
          Erdogan played in the revival of the Ottoman Empire

          secondly, Turkish nationalists - Kemalists from RNP and Bozkurt from PND - these are just opponents of Erdogan and PSR
          в-третьих,
          I’m not going to decide something in Turkey. I am more worried about Russian national security.

          the issue of Turkish-Kurdish relations can affect Russian security only if Russia itself fits into these relations.
          fourthly, here your name is rotmistr60 and you live somewhere in the USSR and this does not bother me from talking to you.
    2. 0
      15 October 2015 10: 04
      Erdogan is just the actions of the states and is more afraid. I don’t remember something when Russia made color revolutions. But the states are profitable.
  13. +3
    15 October 2015 07: 14
    Anecdote in the topic:

    The Turkish President protested against crossing the Turkish border with Russian airplanes. is he
    pointed out that only terrorists are allowed to cross the Turkish border freely.
  14. +1
    15 October 2015 07: 15
    The East is a delicate matter, Dovuglu is well aware of what is happening, the Ottoman Empire was also patchwork, the problems of the territories went to modern Turkey, because Dovuglu is still trying to preserve what remains of patriotic feelings, but Kurdistan is becoming more and more a reality, and the international struggle against IG is a bright start, in addition, Turkey has its own ambitious plans for hegemony in the region, Iran, on the one hand, Saudis, on the other hand, is not a big choice but remains ...
  15. +14
    15 October 2015 07: 16
    The Turks seem to have "closed the sky". They are not allowed to bomb the Kurds. And the Kurds have blocked the supply routes of contraband oil for $ 10! Sadness. Not that you start calling ambassadors, here you dig the Bosphorus out of anger. True, I have always believed that Istanbul is not the correct name for Constantinople. wassat
    And Adjara is a natural continuation of Abkhazia. Well, jump, Janissaries.
    1. +1
      15 October 2015 08: 01
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      ... True, I have always believed that Istanbul is not the correct name for Constantinople wassat .

      Of Constantinople ??? In publications before the occupation of the 17th year there was one name: - Constantinople. Others did not come across, if only in the foreign press.
    2. +1
      15 October 2015 08: 08
      There is no crime that the capitalist would not commit for the sake of three hundred percent profit. Ilf, Petrov "The Golden Calf".
      1. +4
        15 October 2015 08: 59
        This is actually a quote from Karl Marx. And completely it sounds like this:

        "Capital fears no profit or too little profit, as nature fears emptiness. But once there is enough profit, capital becomes bold. Provide 10 percent and capital is willing to use it, at 20 percent it becomes animated, at 50 percent positively ready break his head, at 100 percent he tramples on all human laws, at 300 percent there is no such crime that he would not risk, even if only on pain of the gallows. "
      2. 0
        15 October 2015 12: 43
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        There is no crime that the capitalist would not commit for the sake of three hundred percent profit. Ilf, Petrov "The Golden Calf".

        This is not Ilf and Petrov, but K. Marx, "Capital", 1 volume.
  16. +2
    15 October 2015 07: 17
    We just need to politely send the Turks along the sexual route and continue our policy! And then - you are! They will still point us! Let Erdogan first teach his mother-in-law cabbage soup to cook! am
  17. +1
    15 October 2015 07: 19
    Erdogan was completely blown away, and a psychiatrist is urgently needed.
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 09: 02
      I am for ephtanasia. Rabies is not treated.
  18. 0
    15 October 2015 07: 19
    In fact, the war is in a foreign country. The Turks themselves should worry about the security of their country. By and large, there is a war on terrorism on foreign territory, a war on ISIS.
  19. dsi
    +4
    15 October 2015 07: 21
    The Turkish Foreign Ministry called the American and Russian ambassadors to the carpet.

    Ambassadors, amicably low tide on the "carpet" and saying - drink! went to their apartments.
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    2. +2
      15 October 2015 09: 21
      Quote: dsi
      The Turkish Foreign Ministry called the American and Russian ambassadors to the carpet.

      Ambassadors, amicably low tide on the "carpet" and saying - drink! went to their apartments.

      Here the comrade prompts.

  20. +1
    15 October 2015 07: 22
    Those were "Natasha", and then the national Russian dish "sushki" flew nearby, worried. smile
  21. 0
    15 October 2015 07: 36
    Quote: Decathlon
    At the Janissaries, the tower was completely destroyed! What are they trying to achieve ?! I would still understand that if only the ambassador of the Russian Federation, we wouldn’t get used to it. But so would the US ambassador ...! belay

    This is disgusting - they showed the states how they listen to them. And we showed them how they try to do it before the states.
  22. +3
    15 October 2015 07: 46
    Turkey behaves like a capricious lady. But, the United States has always had a special relationship with the Kurds, they always kept them as a whip for the Turks.
    To us, in this situation in Syria, the Kurds are also allies. The Turks can do little without the United States, they directly depend on the supply of weapons and components.
    So the desperate cry of the Turks is the cry of one crying in the desert.
    Historically, relations with neighbors are also not in favor of the Turks - they annoyed a lot of people. For example, the Armenians are not against returning Ararat and its territories ...
    1. -7
      15 October 2015 08: 11
      If I am not mistaken, the Turkish army is rated as the second strongest in NATO. Moreover, I read articles that in an open confrontation we have no chance against them. So what about - "the Turks can do little without the United States" I don't even know ...
      1. +3
        15 October 2015 09: 04
        Interesting opinion. And very controversial.
    2. -2
      15 October 2015 09: 13
      the Armenians moved to Moscow and Sochi a long time ago, so that Ararat only if returned with our own hands.
  23. +1
    15 October 2015 07: 47
    Did everyone speak out? And now let’s recall the straits. The Turks with the Bosphorus and Darlanella Straits can create such a pain in our head that it won’t seem like much. Turkey is a NATO member. Now let's think about how we can influence Turkey.
    1. +4
      15 October 2015 08: 11
      We have always acted on Turkey with the armed forces.
      The practice is successful, so it makes no sense to change tactics.
      You can make the Turks not a pain in the neck - hemorrhoids, only by the Kurds!
  24. +7
    15 October 2015 07: 58
    Andrei Andreyevich Gromyko, at a press conference, a Turkish journalist asked a question about Ivan the Fool.
    Like, what does that mean?
    Gromyko replied that he would not be able to make an exact translation, but he would be able to explain what "burnt" means.

    In addition to Turkey, the Kurds are nowhere settled?
    And Iraq, and Syria?
    And what does Turkey care about them?
    Or maybe the Kurds want their independent state?

    And the fact that the Kurds burned the houses of those who joined ISIS is not so scary as cutting off a head or burning a person alive.
  25. +2
    15 October 2015 07: 58
    "The Russian and American ambassadors at the Turkish Foreign Ministry were handed notes that they will transmit to Moscow and Washington, respectively."

    So it is necessary to hand the note to the Turkish ambassador that to climb into Syria, without demand, is a taboo.
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 09: 06
      And even keeping the border transparent is also a taboo.

      Did they immediately print the note in duplicate on blotting soft paper? Before delivery.
  26. 0
    15 October 2015 08: 02
    Quote: Bone
    If arms assistance is provided to Kurdish formations, then we will go for retaliatory measures in Iraq and Syria.

    What kind of response measures ??? We need to take retaliatory measures for the help of the Turks to the Islamic State, they are also the hypocrites ...., pin.dosovsky students! Do not like to fight with armed Kurds ... ???

    East is a delicate matter of Petruch.
  27. 0
    15 October 2015 08: 02
    And there is no need to provide "any help" to the Kurds. They need to be given concrete help with weapons and ammunition, and they themselves know how to fight. The Turks have a short memory and have already forgotten how they helped the shaitans from Chechnya. I must remind you.
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 08: 16
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      The Turks have a short memory and have already forgotten how they helped the Shaitans from Chechnya. It must be reminded.

      What if the surname of the chief infantryman of the commander-in-chief comes out there, as they say "this awkward moment" :-)
  28. +1
    15 October 2015 08: 04
    All the main and many non-main international terrorists are mainly found in NATO member states, including Turkey. And all the others are just the "daughters" of these main bandits. And Russia itself, without "wise" Turkish advisers, will somehow sort it out with them.
    Yes, and before warning Russia, Ankara needs to remember its history. The history of Russian-Turkish relations, namely, from 1568 to 1918 years ... Russia will not be scared, and talking to it in the language of threats and demands will be more expensive for itself ....
    1. 0
      15 October 2015 14: 04
      Before warning Russia, Ankara needs to recall its history. The history of Russian-Turkish relations, namely, from 1568 to 1918

      there, you know, everything was not so unequivocally cool, and it was for Russia.
      1. 0
        15 October 2015 22: 28
        Quote: traveler
        there, you know, everything was not so unequivocally cool, and it was for Russia.


        No one is talking about permanent victories! Constantly beating some wimps is not enough honor! And here are several centuries whipped with varying success with a superpower before which all Europe trembled - and in the end turn her into "far from super" - this is really a super feat!
        1. 0
          15 October 2015 22: 43
          Well, Europe trembled in the 16-17th centuries, during the heyday of Oy, during this period Russia did not encounter Turks, only with Crimean Tatars. but turned the port into far from super super so-called the great Turkish war, after it began a decline that lasted another 2 centuries.
          and then there were 1,5-2 less Turks on earth than we have Ukrainians alone.
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  29. Koh
    +1
    15 October 2015 08: 11
    The Turks are trying to blackmail our gas. But you can’t manage without it yourself, and tourists generally drag a penny to them ... When I served at the border with them it often happened that they squeezed the Kurds out to us and always demanded that they be returned for granted without weapons. I don’t remember giving them out. They are hot Kurds, but the word honor is familiar to them.
  30. +1
    15 October 2015 08: 19
    It seems that the Turks themselves do not know what they want. Neither logic nor sequence is visible. The states have it all clear: they need peace. The whole world.
  31. +1
    15 October 2015 08: 21
    You cannot solve the Kurdish problem by hiding it behind words.
    In Kiev, too, at first there were words ...
  32. +1
    15 October 2015 08: 32
    From Wikipedia;
    Kurdish state education exists only in Iraqi Kurdistan. In addition, in the 1920 in the territory of Turkish Kurdistan in the 3 of the year, the self-proclaimed Ararat Kurdish Republic existed, and in the 1945 in the territory of Iranian Kurdistan, the Mehabad Republic was proclaimed for a short time. Among the Kurds, the idea of ​​creating a “Greater Kurdistan”, that is, an independent state throughout the territory of ethnic Kurdistan, is very popular, and as a first step, giving the rest of Kurdistan the same status as Iraqi Kurdistan that enjoys wide autonomy.

    The Turks fear the idea of ​​a "Greater Kurdistan", what they will demand, and are already demanding extended autonomy. Well, this is probably ... like Donetsk and Lugansk, in Ukraine.
  33. +1
    15 October 2015 08: 32
    Well yes. According to their logic, it turns out that helping any rabble that kills Syrians and Kurds is not a taboo, but helping the Kurds protecting themselves from this lured rabble, a taboo. Strange, however, logic. Some Anglo-Saxon. Only times now obscene are inconvenient for such an approach. The Kurds and Assad, with our and Iranian help, will deal with this rotten rotten shobla and then come to ask uncomfortable questions in Turkey. I strongly doubt that the Turks will find something to answer intelligible.
  34. +1
    15 October 2015 09: 00
    And we warned Erdogan, do not download! I didn’t hear, my fingers began to bend, like I'm the navel of the earth. And yet, how life freaks out solitaire. We and the states, in the same wagon, Erdogan stepped on a corn.
  35. +3
    15 October 2015 09: 01
    as I understand it, our comrades simply listened to this gentleman out of politeness. how many videos on the internet watched - all the Syrian military say that the Turks are brazenly and openly supplying all the Basmachi in a row in Syria. so ... the dog barks - the caravan goes on. they will not allow ..)) well, well ..
  36. +2
    15 October 2015 09: 19
    Chot Turks beguiled.
    Indicate the United States and Russia about their Wishlist.
    And even demand their implementation.
    Apparently Turkey is frankly tired of a peaceful life.
    And it feels to me that one thread of the Turkish stream will soon be many ...
  37. Hey
    0
    15 October 2015 09: 32
    East is a delicate matter. In my opinion, while it is necessary to play along with the Turks and agree, having done so that it would be possible to play back beautifully when necessary. But here is the task for diplomats.
    While we are precarious in Syria itself, there is some dependence on the supply routes of the group from Turkey. Of course, you can irrigate Turkey, but so far we don’t need unnecessary problems now. Everything has its time.
  38. +1
    15 October 2015 09: 42
    Quote: Amurets
    .Turks with the Bosphorus and Darlanella strains can create such a pain in our head that it won’t seem enough. Turkey is a NATO member. Now let’s think how we can influence Turkey.

    Is it like declaring war on a nuclear power, will the Turks go for it?
  39. +3
    15 October 2015 10: 00
    And why not call the Turkish ambassador and ask why Turkey, a NATO member and a possible EU member, is buying oil from a terrorist organization and, thus, sponsoring an organization banned in the US and Europe? bully
  40. +1
    15 October 2015 10: 39
    The Turks, apparently, are going to grow the territory of ISIS with oil fields. Replenishment to ISIS went through Turkey. Muddy Turks, oh muddy.
  41. +2
    15 October 2015 11: 13
    Through the territory of Turkey, the militants supplied to ISIS, Al Qaeda and others were supplied with weapons. It is how Turkey received and trained militants on its territory and continues to do so.
    I am silent about the fact that almost the entire flow of terrorists and militants in Russia come from Turkey.
    Turkey did not stop us for a moment to spoil, let the United States put forward its figs and demands.
  42. +1
    15 October 2015 12: 22
    I will not be happy if in a couple of days the entire government of Turkey will be on Obama's carpet, I have to put on my knees and yell "forgive the Most Serene Demon belay
  43. 0
    15 October 2015 14: 17
    Ahead of the great redivision of the territory of Turkey, the United States will help them in this.
  44. 0
    15 October 2015 20: 07
    Quote: BilliBoms09
    The Erdogan government completely blows away from megalomania. And Erdogan imagines himself Selim Yavuz.

    Well, all about the great, just before the election you have to take your political opponents a little to fear - they say how great and terrible I am, I can threaten even Russia and the SGA with a finger! laughing
  45. 0
    15 October 2015 22: 39
    Ambassadors of the United States and the Russian Federation were summoned to Ankara,

    The brilliant Porta decided to replace the despicable giaurs? Have you seen enough of the "Magnificent Century"?

    I would have to answer in the style of Ivan Serko ... wink