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Ambassadors of the USA and the Russian Federation called in the carpet in Ankara, who were told that helping the Kurds is a taboo

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The Turkish Foreign Ministry caused the American and Russian ambassadors "on the carpet". The purpose of the “challenge” was to “tell” the heads of diplomatic missions about the inadmissibility of any assistance to Kurdish forces. Reports about it RIA News.


Ambassadors of the USA and the Russian Federation called in the carpet in Ankara, who were told that helping the Kurds is a taboo


According to the head of the Turkish government, Ahmed Davutoglu, Turkey will not allow arming the Kurdish Democratic Union. At the same time, Ankara refers to materials published recently by human rights advocates from Amnesty International, who announced that the Kurds in Syria were committing "crimes no different from the military," citing allegedly burning the Kurdish formations of the houses of those suspected of ISIL loyalty. It is strange that Ankara refers to this report of the organization, although Amnesty International there are plenty of reports on the “undemocratic” actions of the Turkish authorities themselves ...

Ahmet Davutoglu (material translation Hurriyett):
No one can assure us that weaponwhich our allies will supply to the so-called Kurdish Democratic Union will not fall into the hands of the militants of the Kurdistan Workers' Party. In the assistance they provide to the DPT, Ankara sees steps aimed against Turkey. We will destroy such weapons, because they can get into Turkey and threaten the lives and health of our citizens. If assistance is provided to the Kurdish forces, then we will respond in Iraq and Syria.


The response is the weapon of ISIS and al-Nusra, against which the Kurdish formations in Iraq and Syria continue to actively fight? ..

The Russian and American ambassadors to the Turkish Foreign Ministry were handed over notes that they would pass on to Moscow and Washington, respectively.
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  1. avvg
    avvg 15 October 2015 06: 56 New
    47
    Ankara stated that ISIS can be helped, and Kurds cannot be helped.
    1. USSR 1971
      USSR 1971 15 October 2015 07: 02 New
      39
      That’s the direct state that can dictate the conditions of both Russia and the United States at the same time. Despite the fact that they have a mess inside and terrorism. Well, the US understands what is needed from the Turks there, they all use gaskets, but Russia has long been proposing to solve everything wisely. They will continue to flirt with igil - it will only get worse.
      They handed the note, it would be better if they turned on the brains ...
      1. kocclissi
        kocclissi 15 October 2015 07: 14 New
        19
        With their brains they’re really, really bad ......
        1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
          Uncle VasyaSayapin 15 October 2015 09: 06 New
          +4
          They need to run to the pharmacy for pills for diarrhea, and they called the ambassadors of the United States and Russia. These definitely won't last long. sad
        2. BilliBoms09
          BilliBoms09 15 October 2015 10: 32 New
          +6

          The Russian and American ambassadors to the Turkish Foreign Ministry were handed over notes that they would pass on to Moscow and Washington, respectively.
          The Turks have beguiled the times now XXI, not the XV century and they can not demand anything from the great powers. The Erdogan government completely blows away from megalomania. And Erdogan imagines himself Selim Yavuz.
      2. inkass_98
        inkass_98 15 October 2015 07: 29 New
        +9
        Наши-то хоть ноги вытерли, когда "на ковер" заходили? В мечети и просто на коврике молитвенном вощпе разуваться положено, а тут как прошло с нарушением этикета?
        С другой стороны, Япония протестами по "северным территориям" уже пол тайги на бумагу извела, и ничего, все пережили.
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 15 October 2015 07: 41 New
          14
          Kurds are not allowed and Armenians are not allowed, otherwise they will go to conquer their Ararat.
      3. Kostyar
        Kostyar 15 October 2015 07: 58 New
        +8
        If arms assistance is provided to Kurdish formations, then we will go for retaliatory measures in Iraq and Syria.

        What kind of response measures ??? We need to take retaliatory measures for the help of the Turks to the Islamic State, they are also the hypocrites ...., pin.dosovsky students! Do not like to fight with armed Kurds ... ???
      4. volot-voin
        volot-voin 15 October 2015 08: 14 New
        11
        Quote: USSR 1971
        from directly that state that can dictate the conditions of both Russia and the United States at the same time.

        Otherwise, the Turks will wind up for themselves ... TSA, block the Turkish stream project, refuse to accept tourists, and stop selling fruit)
        Despite the fact that they have a mess inside and terrorism.

        Only IS is not enough for complete happiness.
        1. bayard
          bayard 15 October 2015 10: 07 New
          +8
          Quote: volot-voin
          Only IS is not enough for complete happiness.

          Партия Эрдогана - турецкий филиал "Братьев мусульман"(братство смерти) , алькаида , ан нусра , ИГИЛ - производные или ипостаси братьев мусульман (по сути американские ЧВК из наёмников со всех стран ,религиозный экстремизм - дымовая завеса и вербовочный инструмент). Братья мусульмане созданы ЦРУ и МОСАД ещё в середине прошлого века. Так что Эрдоган крышует ИГИЛ по определению - ибо "братья". Турки вообще ведут смертельно опасную игру(для себя) ибо испортили отношения со всеми соседями - армяне , курды , сирийцы , греки и в довесок Россия . Если так дальше пойдёт , то такое государство может просто исчезнуть с карты , если турки окончательно потеряют берега.
      5. gippernano
        gippernano 15 October 2015 12: 00 New
        +1
        Kurds will give them a demobilization chord, and the great powers will blink at this time. So that next time they do not confuse.
      6. Sterlya
        Sterlya 15 October 2015 23: 46 New
        0
        It turns out that the Turks themselves blew up at a demonstration in Ankara?
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 07: 07 New
      10
      in the photo Galustyan ??? belay
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        in the photo Galustyan ???

        In the photo - Yatsenyuk in makeup.
    3. EGOrkka
      EGOrkka 15 October 2015 07: 14 New
      +6
      .... late ... too late ... it is unfortunate but the destroyed Iraq and Syria contributed .... the movement of the Kurds to independence. Turkey is waiting in line .... Maidan is inevitable .... bully
    4. Finches
      Finches 15 October 2015 07: 59 New
      +9
      In Turkey, the issue with the Kurds is the most difficult and has no solution to date! Kurds live compactly in 4 countries of the region: Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. One of the most ancient peoples of the Middle East! They began to stir up independence for the Ottomans in the middle of the 19th century! Today, the enclave in Iraq is the semi-state of the Kurds and they hope that it will become the basis of the future country of Kurdistan, but this is unacceptable for Iraq and for Turkey, not for Iran, but Syria itself would have survived now! The ball is awful! But what is remarkable, at the beginning of the 20s of the last century they had a hand in this ball, who would you think? Absolutely true, the British! They supported the national the movement of the Kurds then bombed them!
      Turks will not tolerate the intervention of third countries, therefore, it is now very important for diplomats to find a compromise, and the Russian diplomatic school has always been famous for its balanced approach!
      1. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 15 October 2015 10: 18 New
        0
        Yeah ... The situation is awful. Sheet music one by one. Apologize again?
    5. Very old
      Very old 15 October 2015 08: 16 New
      0
      What are you doing? Repeat five times?

      To whom it is said: STAND! HANDS AT SEAM!
      1. Walking
        Walking 15 October 2015 08: 33 New
        +5
        Вот ещё одна "великая держава" нарисовалась, лавры великих прибалтов, укров и других не дают покоя. Может стоит им напомнить про Суворова, Ушакова и нанести ещё один удар с Каспия по ИГИЛу, чтоб до них лучше дошло.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 15 October 2015 10: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Hiking
          inflict another blow from the Caspian Sea to ISIS, so that it comes to them better.

          To get better, it’s better to change the trajectory of the missiles: through Istanbul and Ankara, at an extremely low altitude ... laughing
        2. EGOrkka
          EGOrkka 15 October 2015 10: 53 New
          0
          .... they are from hopelessness .... winked
    6. meriem1
      meriem1 15 October 2015 08: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: avvg
      Ankara stated that ISIS can be helped, and Kurds cannot be helped.

      Do not yell, but remember how to cut the ARMY !!! Bayonets stupidly. The Kurds are strong and we must deal with this ...... Let the Chechen campaign be remembered! It is necessary to learn from the mistakes of others !!! And remember your own. Warriors, they are warriors in Africa !!! It is just a fact! And the Notes ... they are good on pütter
      1. Hello
        Hello 15 October 2015 08: 43 New
        +4
        Quote: meriem1
        Quote: avvg
        Ankara stated that ISIS can be helped, and Kurds cannot be helped.

        Do not yell, but remember how to cut the ARMY !!! Bayonets stupidly. The Kurds are strong and we must deal with this ...... Let the Chechen campaign be remembered! It is necessary to learn from the mistakes of others !!! And remember your own. Warriors, they are warriors in Africa !!! It is just a fact! And the Notes ... they are good on pütter

        Such Kurds actively participated in the massacre of Armenians, such things.
        1. traveler
          traveler 15 October 2015 09: 00 New
          0
          no need to tell this, embarrass the excess info of local geopolitics
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 15 October 2015 12: 23 New
            +1
            Quote: traveler
            no need to tell this, embarrass the excess info of local geopolitics

            Нравится "подзуживать"? На израильтян здесь не особо и заморачиваются: чего ждать от нации, искренне считающей себя "избранным народом"?
            А вот Вы, в данном случае, напоминаете америкосов, пытающихся всеми силами "подлить масла в огонь" по обе стороны любого конфликта. МИНУС. hi
            1. traveler
              traveler 15 October 2015 13: 44 New
              +3
              What conflict did I pour oil into in the Armenian-Kurdish conflict? so it’s kind of not.
              your minuses and pluses, comrade Marshal, you can even a ballpoint pen on the monitor, I do not care, I do not bother with a virtual military career.
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    7. Oman 47
      Oman 47 15 October 2015 08: 43 New
      +5
      It's about the Kurds in Turkey ???!
      No. Then - the forest, field and further.

      Who do the Turks think they are? am
    8. marlin1203
      marlin1203 15 October 2015 09: 33 New
      +3
      "Кто о чем, а турки о курдах" laughing
    9. papas-57
      papas-57 15 October 2015 10: 24 New
      +2
      The Turkish government is PR before the elections, pretending to be something significant.
    10. Kent0001
      Kent0001 15 October 2015 10: 30 New
      +1
      They did it all the time, tricks.
    11. KazaK Bo
      KazaK Bo 15 October 2015 11: 06 New
      +1
      avvg
      Ankara stated that ISIS can be helped, and Kurds cannot be helped.

      It’s time to call TURKEY’s top officials to MOSCOW ON THE CARPET TO REPORT THAT HELPING ISIS IS TABULOUS !!! Give a note and inform that we will not allow ISIS weapons and if terrorists continue to be assisted, we will take appropriate measures ... TO TURKEY! For example, we will close tourist trips (minus 10-12% of state revenues of GDP), we will shut off gas faucet (minus stop up to 30% of industrial enterprises and up to 45% of heating of residential buildings) ....
      1. Garris199
        Garris199 15 October 2015 11: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: KazaK Bo
        For example - we will close our trips

        And arm the Kurds.
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    13. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 15 October 2015 11: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      ISIS can be helped, but Kurds cannot be helped

      This is a clear demonstration by the Turks, where the ears grow from the donkey and why ISIS is still not destroyed by the Amer bombing. It looks like ISIS is bombing with pillows, mattresses and bags with bank cards to purchase right-hand drive cars. A left-hand traffic is common in the UK, Australia and several other countries, one way or another having relations with the UK. Highlighted in blue
      1. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 15 October 2015 12: 39 New
        -2
        Quote: Hedgehog
        In Great Britain,

        In England, long ago switched to the right-hand traffic.
  2. Decathlon
    Decathlon 15 October 2015 06: 57 New
    +6
    At the Janissaries, the tower was completely destroyed! What are they trying to achieve ?! I would still understand that if only the ambassador of the Russian Federation, we wouldn’t get used to it. But so would the US ambassador ...! belay
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 15 October 2015 07: 01 New
      11
      The response is the weapon of ISIS and al-Nusra, against which the Kurdish formations in Iraq and Syria continue to actively fight? ..

      Firstly, ISIS already feels good on the border with Turkey. Even more, a visa-free regime and comprehensive assistance.
      Well, and secondly, yes, in a bath in Turkey and Erdogan himself, nicknamed the Turkish butcher.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 07: 17 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Well, and secondly, yes, in the bathhouse of Turkey and Erdogan himself

        Саня,а ведь если вспомнить,что только наших(!) туристов нынче около 2х "лимонов"чел.,в Турцию деньги свезли,то мысль такая присутствует,что и наши спонсируют получается всякую "бяку"... what
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 15 October 2015 07: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Саня,а ведь если вспомнить,что только наших(!) туристов нынче около 2х "лимонов"чел.,в Турцию деньги свезли,то мысль такая присутствует,что и наши спонсируют получается всякую "бяку"... what

          I bought Windows or office - sponsored by the United States. STR for every comp !!! smile
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 15 October 2015 07: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            I bought Windows or office - sponsored by the United States. STR for every comp !!!

            в магазине сейчас мало что купишь,не "спонсируя" разных там "партнёров"...
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 15 October 2015 07: 38 New
              +1
              Zadolbali Google and 10,2 new spy.
            2. Yura
              Yura 15 October 2015 07: 48 New
              0
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              в магазине сейчас мало что купишь,не "спонсируя" разных там "партнёров"...

              А Альтлинукс? Скачал на днях, сейчас знакомлюсь с ним, до этого ставил несколько "Убунту" ни как не получалось настроить сеть, не видят моего древнего сетевого оборудования.
            3. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 15 October 2015 08: 03 New
              +1
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              в магазине сейчас мало что купишь,не "спонсируя" разных там "партнёров"...

              But the Americans have such a thing - buy local, bay local in their way.
              And then, I’m talking about Windows and the self-knowing office, I say.
          2. PN
            PN 15 October 2015 08: 01 New
            +4
            Therefore, everyone downloads from torrents lol
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 15 October 2015 08: 05 New
              0
              Quote: PN
              Therefore, everyone downloads from torrents lol

              So we got hooked on bourgeois software from pirates.
              1. BYV
                BYV 15 October 2015 08: 23 New
                +8
                In an undeclared cold war, a pirate is not a pirate at all. This is a trophy ...
    2. Name
      Name 15 October 2015 07: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Decathlon
      What are they achieving ?!

      Probably want to revive the Ottoman Empire. recourse winked And they’ll get on Russian gas.
    3. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 15 October 2015 07: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Decathlon
      At the Janissaries, the tower was completely destroyed!

      Who just did not tear? Judging by the documents adopted by the UN, the whole world has set off and is vigorously striding to the tune of the Satanists.
  3. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 15 October 2015 06: 57 New
    +5
    The Turks began to get nervous and twitch. So everything goes according to plan.
    1. tongilguk
      tongilguk 15 October 2015 10: 02 New
      -1
      The Turk can be understood. They are afraid of the color revolution at home. Therefore, they were worried. And in view of Erdogan’s sympathy for Russia, the concern is well-founded.
      I think we are well aware of this and it is beneficial for Russia to keep the situation in Turkey stable.
  4. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 15 October 2015 06: 57 New
    +5
    You would think that the American ambassador there was threatened with a finger)))
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      You would think that they threatened the American ambassador with a finger

      Tufta, the staff ambassador himself wrote this note (composed?).
      1. Yura
        Yura 15 October 2015 07: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: EvgNik
        Ufa, the State Ambassador himself wrote this note (composed?).

        Well, yes, but I was present there to control, so God forbid the Turks did not miss anything.
  5. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick 15 October 2015 06: 58 New
    +6
    then we will retaliate in Iraq and Syria .......... Do not tell us what to do and we will not say where you need to go.
  6. Baloo
    Baloo 15 October 2015 07: 06 New
    +3
    Вся эта кодла, заказавшая ИГИЛу Асада для себя все решили: уничтожить Сирию как государство, поделить ресурсы и земли. "Заказчики" нервно прикрывают "киллера", не думая, что подзащитный уже вышел из под контроля и у него свои цели. angry fool am
  7. Aksakal_07
    Aksakal_07 15 October 2015 07: 06 New
    +1
    Турки доиграются. Рано или поздно мировые державы начнут поддерживать стремление курдов к созданию собственного государства. Тогда настанет неизбежный кирдык главной НАТОвской моське в регионе - "Великому Турану". Да собственно, за последние десятилетия от Турции не было никакой союзической пользы для России. Она то за Гитлера, то за америкосов.
  8. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 15 October 2015 07: 07 New
    +2
    Ay, we are kind of ambassadors, we had to take Constantinople in due time. The Middle East is forever. Viper.
  9. Robinzone
    Robinzone 15 October 2015 07: 07 New
    +4
    Turkey will not allow weapons of the Kurdish Democratic Union


    И как она собирается это сделать? Ужель позабыли потомки османов, как имели "проблемы от соседа с севера" в 18-19 века? А может они всё-таки решили газ не покупать или аэс им не нужна? А может "руссо-туристо" запретят пускать?

    In my opinion, you must first think before stupidly shaking the air.
    1. traveler
      traveler 15 October 2015 09: 06 New
      0
      as? Kurds will be bombed, everything is clear.
  10. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 15 October 2015 07: 08 New
    +1
    У турков головная боль, курды, также и наоборот. Но РФ вроде не кидает посылки с парашютов кому не поподя. А вообще пускай "в тряпочку молчат", а то армян вспомним. winked
  11. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 15 October 2015 07: 10 New
    +7
    Well, they called and called ... And Russia needs to restore order in Syria and without the Kurds I think it will be very difficult and there is already an agreement on this issue.
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 October 2015 07: 14 New
    +1
    caused “on the carpet” of the American and Russian ambassadors

    По всей видимости Эрдоган заигрался в возрождение Османской империи до такой степени, что решил диктовать условия не только России, но и своему союзнику - Сша. То, что у Эрдогана "снесло башню" подтверждают и сами турки, настроенные не так радикально-националистически. Сегодня передали, что в Турции запрещено (до уголовного наказания) упоминание о терактах в СМИ, заблокированы некоторые сайты в Интернете и т.д. Такое ощущение, что Эрдоган может зайти очень далеко, чтобы доказать свою "правоту".
    1. traveler
      traveler 15 October 2015 09: 09 New
      0
      you already decide whether he is an Ottomanist or a nationalist, in Turkey it’s like different things.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 15 October 2015 09: 42 New
        +1
        Во-первых, слово "османист" я не употреблял. Во-вторых, разве турецкие националисты не грезят возрождением Османской империи? Так в чем разница?
        Thirdly, I’m not going to decide on something in Turkey. I am more worried about Russian national security.
        Fourthly, it is difficult to talk with an interlocutor who does not have a name or place of residence.
        1. traveler
          traveler 15 October 2015 14: 00 New
          0
          Firstly, you wrote this:
          Erdogan played in the revival of the Ottoman Empire

          secondly, Turkish nationalists - Kemalists from RNP and Bozkurt from PND - these are just opponents of Erdogan and PSR
          в-третьих,
          I’m not going to decide something in Turkey. I am more worried about Russian national security.

          the issue of Turkish-Kurdish relations can affect Russian security only if Russia itself fits into these relations.
          fourthly, here your name is rotmistr60 and you live somewhere in the USSR and this does not bother me from talking to you.
    2. tongilguk
      tongilguk 15 October 2015 10: 04 New
      0
      Erdogan is just the actions of the states and is more afraid. I don’t remember something when Russia made color revolutions. But the states are profitable.
  13. bronik
    bronik 15 October 2015 07: 14 New
    +3
    Anecdote in the topic:

    The Turkish President protested against crossing the Turkish border with Russian airplanes. is he
    pointed out that only terrorists are allowed to cross the Turkish border freely.
  14. Wolka
    Wolka 15 October 2015 07: 15 New
    +1
    The East is a delicate matter, Dovuglu is well aware of what is happening, the Ottoman Empire was also patchwork, the problems of the territories went to modern Turkey, because Dovuglu is still trying to preserve what remains of patriotic feelings, but Kurdistan is becoming more and more a reality, and the international struggle against IG is a bright start, in addition, Turkey has its own ambitious plans for hegemony in the region, Iran, on the one hand, Saudis, on the other hand, is not a big choice but remains ...
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 October 2015 07: 16 New
    14
    Туркам, похоже, "закрыли небо". Бомбить курдов не дают. А курды перекрыли пути поставки контрабандной нефти по 10$! Печалька. Тут не то что послов начнёшь вызывать, тут Босфор перекопаешь от злости. Правда, я всегда считал, что Стамбул - это не правильное название Константинополя wassat
    And Adjara is a natural continuation of Abkhazia. Well, jump, Janissaries.
    1. venaya
      venaya 15 October 2015 08: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      ... True, I have always believed that Istanbul is not the correct name for Constantinople wassat .

      Of Constantinople ??? In publications before the occupation of the 17th year there was one name: - Constantinople. Others did not come across, if only in the foreign press.
    2. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 15 October 2015 08: 08 New
      +1
      Нет такого преступления, которого не совершил бы капиталист ради трёхсот процентов прибыли. Ильф, Петров "Золотой телёнок".
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 15 October 2015 08: 59 New
        +4
        This is actually a quote from Karl Marx. And completely it sounds like this:

        "Капитал боится отсутствия прибыли или слишком маленькой прибыли, как природа боится пустоты. Но раз имеется в наличии достаточная прибыль, капитал становится смелым. Обеспечьте 10 процентов, и капитал согласен на всякое применение, при 20 процентах он становится оживлённым, при 50 процентах положительно готов сломать себе голову, при 100 процентах он попирает все человеческие законы, при 300 процентах нет такого преступления, на которое он не рискнул бы, хотя бы под страхом виселицы."
      2. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 15 October 2015 12: 43 New
        0
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        Нет такого преступления, которого не совершил бы капиталист ради трёхсот процентов прибыли. Ильф, Петров "Золотой телёнок".

        Это не Ильф и Петров, а К.Маркс, "Капитал", 1 том.
  16. Brigadier
    Brigadier 15 October 2015 07: 17 New
    +2
    We just need to politely send the Turks along the sexual route and continue our policy! And then - you are! They will still point us! Let Erdogan first teach his mother-in-law cabbage soup to cook! am
  17. EvgNik
    EvgNik 15 October 2015 07: 19 New
    +1
    Erdogan was completely blown away, and a psychiatrist is urgently needed.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 15 October 2015 09: 02 New
      0
      I am for ephtanasia. Rabies is not treated.
  18. sl22277
    sl22277 15 October 2015 07: 19 New
    0
    In fact, the war is in a foreign country. The Turks themselves should worry about the security of their country. By and large, there is a war on terrorism on foreign territory, a war on ISIS.
  19. dsi
    dsi 15 October 2015 07: 21 New
    +4
    The Turkish Foreign Ministry called the American and Russian ambassadors to the carpet.

    Послы, дружно отлив на "ковер" и произнеся -ептить! разошлись по квартирам.
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    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 15 October 2015 09: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: dsi
      The Turkish Foreign Ministry called the American and Russian ambassadors to the carpet.

      Послы, дружно отлив на "ковер" и произнеся -ептить! разошлись по квартирам.

      Here the comrade prompts.

  20. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 15 October 2015 07: 22 New
    +1
    То были "наташи", а тут национальное российское блюдо "сушки" рядом пролетели, заволновались. smile
  21. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 15 October 2015 07: 36 New
    0
    Quote: Decathlon
    At the Janissaries, the tower was completely destroyed! What are they trying to achieve ?! I would still understand that if only the ambassador of the Russian Federation, we wouldn’t get used to it. But so would the US ambassador ...! belay

    This is disgusting - they showed the states how they listen to them. And we showed them how they try to do it before the states.
  22. Buffalo
    Buffalo 15 October 2015 07: 46 New
    +3
    Turkey behaves like a capricious lady. But, the United States has always had a special relationship with the Kurds, they always kept them as a whip for the Turks.
    To us, in this situation in Syria, the Kurds are also allies. The Turks can do little without the United States, they directly depend on the supply of weapons and components.
    So the desperate cry of the Turks is the cry of one crying in the desert.
    Historically, relations with neighbors are also not in favor of the Turks - they annoyed a lot of people. For example, the Armenians are not against returning Ararat and its territories ...
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 15 October 2015 08: 11 New
      -7
      Если не ошибаюсь, турецкую армию оценивают, как вторую по силе в НАТО. Более того, читал статейки, что в открытом противостоянии у нас против них шансов нету. Так что насчёт - "турки мало что могут без США" даже и не знаю...
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 15 October 2015 09: 04 New
        +3
        Interesting opinion. And very controversial.
    2. traveler
      traveler 15 October 2015 09: 13 New
      -2
      the Armenians moved to Moscow and Sochi a long time ago, so that Ararat only if returned with our own hands.
  23. Amurets
    Amurets 15 October 2015 07: 47 New
    +1
    Did everyone speak out? And now let’s recall the straits. The Turks with the Bosphorus and Darlanella Straits can create such a pain in our head that it won’t seem like much. Turkey is a NATO member. Now let's think about how we can influence Turkey.
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 15 October 2015 08: 11 New
      +4
      We have always acted on Turkey with the armed forces.
      The practice is successful, so it makes no sense to change tactics.
      You can make the Turks not a pain in the neck - hemorrhoids, only by the Kurds!
  24. demo
    demo 15 October 2015 07: 58 New
    +7
    Andrei Andreyevich Gromyko, at a press conference, a Turkish journalist asked a question about Ivan the Fool.
    Like, what does that mean?
    Громыко ответил, что точного перевода сделать не сможет, но сможет объяснить что значит "затурканный".

    In addition to Turkey, the Kurds are nowhere settled?
    And Iraq, and Syria?
    And what does Turkey care about them?
    Or maybe the Kurds want their independent state?

    And the fact that the Kurds burned the houses of those who joined ISIS is not so scary as cutting off a head or burning a person alive.
  25. mamont5
    mamont5 15 October 2015 07: 58 New
    +2
    "Российскому и американскому послам в МИД Турции были вручены ноты, которые они передадут в Москву и Вашингтон соответственно."

    So it is necessary to hand the note to the Turkish ambassador that to climb into Syria, without demand, is a taboo.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 15 October 2015 09: 06 New
      0
      And even keeping the border transparent is also a taboo.

      Did they immediately print the note in duplicate on blotting soft paper? Before delivery.
  26. biron
    biron 15 October 2015 08: 02 New
    0
    Quote: Bone
    If arms assistance is provided to Kurdish formations, then we will go for retaliatory measures in Iraq and Syria.

    What kind of response measures ??? We need to take retaliatory measures for the help of the Turks to the Islamic State, they are also the hypocrites ...., pin.dosovsky students! Do not like to fight with armed Kurds ... ???

    East is a delicate matter of Petruch.
  27. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 15 October 2015 08: 02 New
    0
    А "какую-либо помощь" курдам оказывать и не надо. Им надо оказать конкретную помощь оружием и боеприпасами, а воевать они и сами умеют. Турки имеют короткую память и уже забыли, как помогали шайтанам из Чечни. Надо напомнить.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 15 October 2015 08: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      The Turks have a short memory and have already forgotten how they helped the Shaitans from Chechnya. It must be reminded.

      А вдруг там вылезет фамилия главного пехотинца главнокомандующего, как говорится "этот неловкий момент":-)
  28. AlexTires
    AlexTires 15 October 2015 08: 04 New
    +1
    Все главные и много неглавных международных террористов находятся в основном в составе стран-членов НАТО, включая Турцию. А все прочие - это всего лишь "дочки" этих главных бандитов. И с ними Россия сама, без "мудрых" турецких советников как-нибудь разберётся.
    Yes, and before warning Russia, Ankara needs to remember its history. The history of Russian-Turkish relations, namely, from 1568 to 1918 years ... Russia will not be scared, and talking to it in the language of threats and demands will be more expensive for itself ....
    1. traveler
      traveler 15 October 2015 14: 04 New
      0
      Before warning Russia, Ankara needs to recall its history. The history of Russian-Turkish relations, namely, from 1568 to 1918

      there, you know, everything was not so unequivocally cool, and it was for Russia.
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 15 October 2015 22: 28 New
        0
        Quote: traveler
        there, you know, everything was not so unequivocally cool, and it was for Russia.


        No one is talking about permanent victories! Constantly beating some wimps is not enough honor! And here are several centuries whipped with varying success with a superpower before which all Europe trembled - и в конце концов превратить ее в "далеко не супер" - вот это действительно суперподвиг!
        1. traveler
          traveler 15 October 2015 22: 43 New
          0
          Well, Europe trembled in the 16-17th centuries, during the heyday of Oy, during this period Russia did not encounter Turks, only with Crimean Tatars. but turned the port into far from super super so-called the great Turkish war, after it began a decline that lasted another 2 centuries.
          and then there were 1,5-2 less Turks on earth than we have Ukrainians alone.
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  29. Koh
    Koh 15 October 2015 08: 11 New
    +1
    The Turks are trying to blackmail our gas. But you can’t manage without it yourself, and tourists generally drag a penny to them ... When I served at the border with them it often happened that they squeezed the Kurds out to us and always demanded that they be returned for granted without weapons. I don’t remember giving them out. They are hot Kurds, but the word honor is familiar to them.
  30. Vadim12
    Vadim12 15 October 2015 08: 19 New
    +1
    It seems that the Turks themselves do not know what they want. Neither logic nor sequence is visible. The states have it all clear: they need peace. The whole world.
  31. individual
    individual 15 October 2015 08: 21 New
    +1
    You cannot solve the Kurdish problem by hiding it behind words.
    In Kiev, too, at first there were words ...
  32. sagitch
    sagitch 15 October 2015 08: 32 New
    +1
    From Wikipedia;
    Kurdish state education exists only in Iraqi Kurdistan. In addition, in the 1920 in the territory of Turkish Kurdistan in the 3 of the year, the self-proclaimed Ararat Kurdish Republic existed, and in the 1945 in the territory of Iranian Kurdistan, the Mehabad Republic was proclaimed for a short time. Among the Kurds, the idea of ​​creating a “Greater Kurdistan”, that is, an independent state throughout the territory of ethnic Kurdistan, is very popular, and as a first step, giving the rest of Kurdistan the same status as Iraqi Kurdistan that enjoys wide autonomy.

    Турки опасаются идеи "Большого Курдистана", что они будут требовать, да и уже требуют расширенной автономии. Ну это наверное..., как Донецк и Луганск, на Украине.
  33. Pacifist
    Pacifist 15 October 2015 08: 32 New
    +1
    Well yes. According to their logic, it turns out that helping any rabble that kills Syrians and Kurds is not a taboo, but helping the Kurds protecting themselves from this lured rabble, a taboo. Strange, however, logic. Some Anglo-Saxon. Only times now obscene are inconvenient for such an approach. The Kurds and Assad, with our and Iranian help, will deal with this rotten rotten shobla and then come to ask uncomfortable questions in Turkey. I strongly doubt that the Turks will find something to answer intelligible.
  34. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 15 October 2015 09: 00 New
    +1
    And we warned Erdogan, do not download! I didn’t hear, my fingers began to bend, like I'm the navel of the earth. And yet, how life freaks out solitaire. We and the states, in the same wagon, Erdogan stepped on a corn.
  35. olegator
    olegator 15 October 2015 09: 01 New
    +3
    as I understand it, our comrades simply listened to this gentleman out of politeness. how many videos on the internet watched - all the Syrian military say that the Turks are brazenly and openly supplying all the Basmachi in a row in Syria. so ... the dog barks - the caravan goes on. they will not allow ..)) well, well ..
  36. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 October 2015 09: 19 New
    +2
    Chot Turks beguiled.
    Indicate the United States and Russia about their Wishlist.
    And even demand their implementation.
    Apparently Turkey is frankly tired of a peaceful life.
    And it feels to me that one thread of the Turkish stream will soon be many ...
  37. Hey
    Hey 15 October 2015 09: 32 New
    0
    East is a delicate matter. In my opinion, while it is necessary to play along with the Turks and agree, having done so that it would be possible to play back beautifully when necessary. But here is the task for diplomats.
    While we are precarious in Syria itself, there is some dependence on the supply routes of the group from Turkey. Of course, you can irrigate Turkey, but so far we don’t need unnecessary problems now. Everything has its time.
  38. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 15 October 2015 09: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: Amurets
    .Turks with the Bosphorus and Darlanella strains can create such a pain in our head that it won’t seem enough. Turkey is a NATO member. Now let’s think how we can influence Turkey.

    Is it like declaring war on a nuclear power, will the Turks go for it?
  39. da Vinci
    da Vinci 15 October 2015 10: 00 New
    +3
    And why not call the Turkish ambassador and ask why Turkey, a NATO member and a possible EU member, is buying oil from a terrorist organization and, thus, sponsoring an organization banned in the US and Europe? bully
  40. roskot
    roskot 15 October 2015 10: 39 New
    +1
    The Turks, apparently, are going to grow the territory of ISIS with oil fields. Replenishment to ISIS went through Turkey. Muddy Turks, oh muddy.
  41. lopvlad
    lopvlad 15 October 2015 11: 13 New
    +2
    Through the territory of Turkey, the militants supplied to ISIS, Al Qaeda and others were supplied with weapons. It is how Turkey received and trained militants on its territory and continues to do so.
    I am silent about the fact that almost the entire flow of terrorists and militants in Russia come from Turkey.
    Turkey did not stop us for a moment to spoil, let the United States put forward its figs and demands.
  42. 2s1122
    2s1122 15 October 2015 12: 22 New
    +1
    Я не удевлюсь если через пару дней на ковре у Обамы будет стоять все правительство турцыи,я имею введу на коленях и вопить "прости о светлейшый шайтан попутал" belay
  43. provincial
    provincial 15 October 2015 14: 17 New
    0
    Ahead of the great redivision of the territory of Turkey, the United States will help them in this.
  44. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 15 October 2015 20: 07 New
    0
    Quote: BilliBoms09
    The Erdogan government completely blows away from megalomania. And Erdogan imagines himself Selim Yavuz.

    Well, all about the great, just before the election you have to take your political opponents a little to fear - they say how great and terrible I am, I can threaten even Russia and the SGA with a finger! laughing
  45. Weyland
    Weyland 15 October 2015 22: 39 New
    0
    В Анкаре вызвали "на ковёр" послов США и РФ,

    Блистательная Порта решила поставить на место презренных гяуров? "Великолепного века" насмотрелись?

    I would have to answer in the style of Ivan Serko ... wink