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Ukrainian security forces received a new anti-tank complex

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The head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov reported that the new mobile anti-tank complex “Stugna-P”, developed by the Luch State Kyiv Design Bureau based on the CF MOTO TRACKER, has entered service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.




“A quick, simple semi-automatic control and navigation system of the shot, mobility allows solving the combat task of destroying the enemy’s equipment and manpower: in a rapidly changing environment, in rugged terrain, using the surprise effect of a striking blow. Not a Javelin yet, but for a number of tasks, our Ukrainian weapon"- Leads the Minister to Facebook newspaper "Sight".

Avakov noted that the complex caliber 100-mm has a maximum range of 5 kilometers. It uses 24.5-kilogram ammunition with armor-piercing at least 550 mm.

It is worth noting that on Friday there were negotiations between the leaders of the "Norman Quartet", during which an agreement was reached on the withdrawal of weapons with a caliber less than 100-mm.

President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko also said that the US authorities had decided to supply the Ukrainian military with new types of defensive weapons.

“He (Barack Obama) informed me that he had signed an appropriate order to transfer to Ukraine new weapons, which we need like air, since these are defense weapons, these are long-range counter-battery stations, which allow us to increase the activity of the Ukrainian army’s defense capabilities” his words RIA "News".
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 5 October 2015 05: 33 New
    +13
    It’s not Javelin yet, but for a number of tasks our Ukrainian weapons are not inferior to American missiles, ”the newspaper Vzglyad quoted the minister on Facebook.

    It would be necessary for the militias to privatize a couple of such things to study and test in practice.


    these are long-range counter-battery stations, which allow us to increase the activity of the defense capabilities of the Ukrainian army ”...

    These things are powerful sources of radio emission and can themselves become targets of attack ...

    Those interested can read the article about them.

    http://army-news.ru/2015/02/o-vozmozhnostyax-kontrbatarejnoj-borby/

    .... a very interesting layer of military equipment.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 5 October 2015 06: 30 New
      +6
      Illustration for the article does not fully reveal the essence of the news. wassat
      If we are talking about “Stugna-P” based on CF MOTO TRACKER, then the photos should be of this kind:


      1. serafim60
        serafim60 5 October 2015 06: 45 New
        +10
        And as a result of this
      2. Combitor
        Combitor 5 October 2015 06: 47 New
        +4
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        If we are talking about “Stugna-P” based on CF MOTO TRACKER

        Such "motor-tractors" at our drilling site are used to move around the territory and transport small-sized cargo up to 500 kg. Speed ​​up to 60 km / h.
        The second photo is so, to the "heap". Maybe they take these "mototrackers" from toy stores?
      3. Tanker55
        Tanker55 5 October 2015 06: 56 New
        +2
        Patients - they are also sick in Ukraine. Winter is on the nose, and they dream of weapons - fool .
      4. Kostyar
        Kostyar 5 October 2015 07: 13 New
        0
        Ukrainian troops

        Ukrainian troops ..... m-yes ... warriors so you and razedak !!!
        Warriors, against whom are you fighting ...?! Against women, children and the elderly ...?! Bravo! The real MUSCKSHINS are just ... why are you brave warriors, do not declare war on Us, the Russian "occupiers" ... ??? That would have fought ..., in fact, in a manly way (and not in an American way), on equal terms with similar healthy men !!!
        Oh yes! You will still show us !!!!
      5. Imperial
        Imperial 5 October 2015 08: 28 New
        +4
        Illustration for the article does not fully reveal the essence of the news. wassat
        If we are talking about “Stugna-P” based on CF MOTO TRACKER, then the photos should be of this kind:
        For Ukraine, it is expensive, here is a budget option.
    2. Professor
      Professor 5 October 2015 07: 46 New
      +4
      Quote: The same Lech
      These things are powerful sources of radio emission and can themselves become targets of attack ...

      Is not a fact. There are passive stations tracking the infrared trace of ammunition. You will not find such. Which stations the bourgeoisie will deliver is not clear. request
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 5 October 2015 08: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        Is not a fact. There are passive stations tracking the infrared trace of ammunition.

        Information has leaked a little to the press and we are talking about AN / TPQ-36 radars
    3. roadsmell
      roadsmell 5 October 2015 09: 37 New
      +1
      It would be necessary for the militias to privatize a couple of such things to study and test in practice.

      I read the other day a comparison of Sugna with Cornet. In general, they are very similar in terms of characteristics and working principle.
      The only question is reliability and the ability to use them.
      Rather difficult complexes for carrying, and in installation on BM - to put a quadric-tractor well it is not reasonable at all. The “crew” protection class is minus 5.

      But the Russian version of the mobile installation of the complex is quite good:
  2. Barboskin
    Barboskin 5 October 2015 05: 33 New
    +14
    Interior Minister presents new weapons for the army! Morons!
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 5 October 2015 05: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: Barboskin
      Interior Minister presents new weapons for the army! Morons!

      Well yes. And Senya sent prvosekov to the new police yesterday. Import substitution in Ukrainian.
    2. Finches
      Finches 5 October 2015 05: 48 New
      +4
      Sick state! Very sick ..... Apparently everything is so bad there that the pseudo-ministers do not know what to do!
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 5 October 2015 06: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Finches
        Apparently everything is so bad there that the pseudo-ministers do not know what to do!


        Well, I think that they have not forgotten how to rip money. Three complexes made pieces, and sawed dough for 30 (this is me for example)
  3. svp67
    svp67 5 October 2015 05: 37 New
    +9
    This complex was adopted by the Armed Forces in 2011, but has not been supplied since. Being very similar in design to our Cornet, it was not produced independently by Ukraine, but only in cooperation with Belarus.
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 5 October 2015 05: 50 New
      +5
      [quote = svp67] This complex was adopted by the Armed Forces in 2011, but has not been supplied since. / quote]
      Well what to say. Everything "new" is well forgotten old.
      1. svp67
        svp67 5 October 2015 05: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        Well what to say. Everything "new" is well forgotten old.

        The question is different. It means that Ukraine has money for purchases in Belarus, well, not for free, they deliver ...
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 5 October 2015 06: 02 New
          +7
          танк
          Quote: svp67
          It means that Ukraine has money for purchases in Belarus, well, not for free, they deliver ...

          What has Pat not recently “presented”? And armored personnel carriers and new tanks. Recently, he promised the fleet and the Air Force to restore engines for American missiles. It's time to issue a book of promises named after Poroshenko. So just do not remember.
          1. Imperial
            Imperial 5 October 2015 06: 08 New
            +2
            It's time to issue a book of promises named after Poroshenko. So just do not remember.
            There is already a collection of essays in the nth number of volumes, especially write it down a day)))
        2. Imperial
          Imperial 5 October 2015 06: 02 New
          +3
          The question is different. It means that Ukraine has money for purchases in Belarus, well, not for free, they deliver ...
          What kind of money is it? for all three ostentatious samples, so it’s not necessary much, and then the old song about the main thing again will begin- omega of the pamaga, give the juveniles, well, the Panikovskys (give the miltien, well give the milieu) in its pure form)))
    2. qQQQ
      qQQQ 5 October 2015 09: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      This complex was adopted by the Armed Forces in 2011, but has not been supplied since. Being very similar in design to our Cornet, it was not produced independently by Ukraine, but only in cooperation with Belarus


      The idea is interesting, only the complex is suitable for the Papuans and for exhibitions, in real hostilities it will lead to the death of the crew or to the enemy leaving the installation. In fact, it is no different from Soviet systems, only with remote control, only if after the shot the same Cornet picked up the calculation and left, then Stugna still needs to be returned and this is when the enemy fires at a position (I consider the option when a position is found after a shot, with other options in general, in addition to the appreciation and complication of the advantages I do not see) The smartest ones will not return after the installation, but “cyborgs” - they can be immortal. In general, to maintain our own design ideas and develop technologies, a thing is necessary, but the rest is a question.
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  4. horoh
    horoh 5 October 2015 05: 46 New
    +3
    Is there still production left on the Ruin ??? More like another nonsense.
  5. Wolka
    Wolka 5 October 2015 05: 51 New
    +4
    PR, another horror story for Russia, rather this is the only instance to put it in the Armed Forces and put in the series the necessary denyushki and not small, which in dill is simply not for this ...
    1. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 5 October 2015 05: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: Volka
      To put him in the Armed Forces and put in a series of necessary denyushki and not small, which in dill is simply not for this ...
  6. Bongo
    Bongo 5 October 2015 06: 04 New
    +6
    Avakov noted that the complex caliber 100-mm has a maximum range of 5 kilometers. It uses 24.5-kilogram ammunition with armor-piercing at least 550 mm.

    For a confident defeat of modern MBT in the frontal projection of the specified armor penetration is clearly not enough. no
    It is worth noting that on Friday there were negotiations between the leaders of the "Norman Quartet", during which an agreement was reached on the withdrawal of weapons with a caliber less than 100-mm.

    What does this have to do with the ATGM which really is not yet in the Ukrainian Armed Forces?
    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko also said that the US authorities had decided to supply the Ukrainian military with new types of defensive weapons.

    “He (Barack Obama) informed me that he signed a corresponding order on the transfer to Ukraine of new weapons that we need as air, because these are defense weapons, these are long-range counter-battery stations that allow us to increase the activity of the Ukrainian army’s defense capabilities,” his words to RIA Novosti.

    Everything was mixed up in this publication, and people and horses ... wassat

    What is the relation of the artillery reconnaissance station that the Americans plan to supply to the adoption of new ATGMs? fool
  7. Koronik
    Koronik 5 October 2015 06: 07 New
    -1
    Yes, you look at his ground installation, on such a installation he can not stand a single shot.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 5 October 2015 06: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Koronik
      Yes, you look at his ground installation, on such a installation he can not stand a single shot.

      Oddly enough - withstands.
      And what is the problem of its ground part? If it is possible in more detail, what kind of constructive mistake does not give him the opportunity to survive even one launch?
      Except for the country of origin?
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 5 October 2015 11: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Koronik
      on such an installation, he can not stand a single shot.

      So it withstands. One shot. Then TPK is thrown out, a new one is installed. And what's the problem?
  8. EvgNik
    EvgNik 5 October 2015 06: 30 New
    +2
    In a word, although they agreed to withdraw arms, they are still preparing for war. With Russia, probably. Do not disappoint Kiev dreamers. And so they have nothing to enjoy. Looks like Petya, what a sad walk, apparently, they don’t give a sober bum.
  9. ssn18
    ssn18 5 October 2015 06: 35 New
    +4
    Somehow 9M135 looks more reliable.
  10. mamont5
    mamont5 5 October 2015 06: 45 New
    +3
    Quote: The same Lech
    It would be necessary for the militias to privatize a couple of such things to study and test in practice.

    Where can I just get them? .. Single copies are one thing (how many have already been), and in order to deploy mass production we need money + industry + tests in the army and again money + industry.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 5 October 2015 07: 14 New
      +1
      In UKRAINE everything is sold and the soul and body of Svidomo for n ... - the sum of bucks.
  11. PiP
    PiP 5 October 2015 07: 01 New
    +4
    It becomes funny when the “Minister of the Interior” speaks about anti-tank weapons, and not the representative of the Ministry of Defense. It seems that these weapons will go into the arsenal of the traffic police.
    1. Throw
      Throw 5 October 2015 07: 11 New
      +4
      And for kaklov, who was the first to break into a mordobuk, he tweeted.
      negative
  12. tracker
    tracker 5 October 2015 07: 32 New
    +3
    "Stugna-P", created by the Kiev design bureau "Luch" in 2010. In 2013, the designers of Luch developed the Korsar portable anti-tank missile system RK-3. Unfortunately, in 2014, as many as 10 units were manufactured by Stugna-P, and RK-3 Korsar was not put into production at all (For comparison: the Russian Kornet complex, similar in characteristics to Stugna-P, was launched in 35 thousand pieces)
    more details at https://inforesist.org/ubijcy-tankov-ptrk/
  13. Professor
    Professor 5 October 2015 07: 43 New
    +3
    Mobility? Strongly with 50 kg on the back you do not run.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 5 October 2015 09: 46 New
      +1
      You have soldiers in the desert 40 kilometers running with equipment under 60 kilograms.
      1. Professor
        Professor 5 October 2015 20: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        You have soldiers in the desert 40 kilometers running with equipment under 60 kilograms.

        Run and more, but not 60 kg. About 60 kg is a fairy tale. Nevertheless, 50 kg for such a system is a lot. Urgent need to lighten.
  14. roskot
    roskot 5 October 2015 08: 09 New
    +1
    Normal thing. Launched, she is digging.
    1. inpu
      inpu 5 October 2015 10: 30 New
      0
      Quote: roskot
      Normal thing. Launched, she is digging.

      Digs up enemy equipment exposing on the field.
  15. Non-jumping
    Non-jumping 5 October 2015 13: 13 New
    0
    Stugny-P has a caliber of 130mm, not 100mm.